| 00:00.08 | Rubasub | 512 enough |
| 00:00.35 | GPLGeek | ide or sata |
| 00:00.49 | GPLGeek | or even can boot with some usb connectors |
| 00:01.25 | GPLGeek | i'm not on elive right now but try typing whereis gnupg |
| 00:01.35 | GPLGeek | it should be the same as where debian keeps it |
| 00:01.39 | GPLGeek | elive is built on etch |
| 00:06.20 | assasukasse | GPLGeek, unfortunately i can find only the libs not the executable this way, must have another name... |
| 00:06.34 | GPLGeek | im not sure |
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| 00:06.46 | _elmo44_ | ya, i also installed to CF card. netBSD, actually. Ran it on my Jornada690 |
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| 00:10.30 | mathmanp | assasukasse, I have the libs in /usr/lib/gnupg/ on elive |
| 00:11.06 | assasukasse | me too mathmanp but where is the binary |
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| 00:11.19 | hermit2 | it is in .gnupg |
| 00:12.16 | hermit2 | or did you look in /usr/bin |
| 00:13.25 | hermit2 | gnome-keyring-daemon? |
| 00:14.10 | assasukasse | hermit2, maybe is it gpg? |
| 00:14.16 | hermit2 | could be |
| 00:14.29 | hermit2 | very likely |
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| 00:15.21 | _elmo44_ | Thanatermesis: when is 0.6.5 coming? |
| 00:16.06 | Thanatermesis | _elmo44_, mmh, maybe on a week |
| 00:17.52 | Rubasub | <Thanatermesis> have you seen the alsa mixers in Ubuntu, knoppix and wolvix |
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| 00:25.25 | Thanatermesis | Rubasub, no, what is the name applications of those mixers ? |
| 00:25.54 | Rubasub | are they not all alsa? |
| 00:28.40 | Rubasub | If I take some screen shots over the weekend and next time your online I'll send them to you to show the differences. At the moment I can't get any sound from elive desktop |
| 00:29.09 | hermit2 | did you run alsaconf? |
| 00:30.40 | Rubasub | yes but with no positive results...it's usually not this complicated. Elive is very well configured for video etc but suits my pc less when it comes to sound |
| 00:30.45 | Thanatermesis | just launch the program, and type "ps -A", in the final lines you need to have the name of the application |
| 00:31.26 | Rubasub | ok, next time I'm using wolvix etc I'll do that |
| 00:32.25 | mathmanp | the alsamixer in ubuntu is gnome-volume-control |
| 00:34.00 | Rubasub | <mathmanp>thanks but the gui interface is the one I normally use |
| 00:35.12 | Rubasub | <mathmanp> the mixer window can be changed in prefrences and comes up with new tabs when they are sellected |
| 00:38.14 | mathmanp | the application I mean is a gui interface, I myself was looking for its name for a long time, beacause the name is not intuitive |
| 00:40.36 | Rubasub | your right, it's a beauty within Linux that programs run behind distro desktops without naming themselves or their origins |
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| 00:42.07 | Rubasub | ...same goes for other os distros windows and apple. all use many ingredients to build the full monti |
| 00:42.26 | PrinceAMD | hi all |
| 00:42.35 | Rubasub | hi |
| 00:42.44 | PrinceAMD | sup |
| 00:42.55 | Rubasub | alsa mixer up |
| 00:43.01 | PrinceAMD | oh |
| 00:43.49 | Rubasub | I'll bid good night to you all and wish you pleasant dreams,,,it's getting past my bed time ;) |
| 00:44.04 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 00:44.34 | Rubasub | I sent you an email about those women |
| 00:44.36 | PrinceAMD | apt princeamd |
| 00:44.37 | apt | somebody said princeamd was a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut and 2 girlfriends |
| 00:44.50 | PrinceAMD | :) |
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| 00:58.42 | assasukasse | is there someone that has ever updated using elive cd installer? i mean, update with a separate /home partition...since i am gonna do when the new elive comes out |
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| 01:03.06 | hermit2 | yes, it works well. |
| 01:32.01 | _elmo44_ | PrinceAMD: only 2? |
| 01:32.16 | _elmo44_ | Thanatermesis: next week for 0.6.5? Monday is next week ;) |
| 01:32.38 | PrinceAMD | _elmo44_, 3 right now |
| 01:33.04 | _elmo44_ | sweet |
| 01:33.11 | _elmo44_ | apt _elmo44_ |
| 01:33.39 | _elmo44_ | looks like i dont have any :( |
| 01:35.44 | PrinceAMD | 3 is too much |
| 01:35.49 | PrinceAMD | u dont get to focus on one |
| 01:35.56 | PrinceAMD | so u dont reallyt get to know ther girl good |
| 01:36.15 | PrinceAMD | and sometime ther girl can be a really sweet person |
| 01:46.57 | _elmo44_ | 3 is not too much. There are 7 days in the week ;) 2 per girl, one for youself |
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| 02:13.03 | GPLGeek | my brother's puppy is finally sleeping |
| 02:13.14 | GPLGeek | damn that thing has more energy than an oilfield |
| 02:13.40 | hermit2 | right up there with a small child |
| 02:27.01 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: If I go to jail, you'll keep the project going until I'm out right? |
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| 02:39.43 | _elmo44_ | adamant1988: ? O_o |
| 02:39.56 | _elmo44_ | adamant1988: what did you get caught doing? |
| 02:40.16 | adamant1988 | _elmo44_: nothing. But I just found out my sister's boyfriend was in jail for molesting a child |
| 02:40.31 | adamant1988 | So after I get done beating him into a form that's hardly recognizable, I may very well go to jail for a while |
| 02:41.17 | _elmo44_ | nah, blame it on a bear, or very large dog |
| 02:41.43 | _elmo44_ | and pay off the judge :-P |
| 02:42.32 | adamant1988 | _elmo44_: the point is I *can* go to jail for it, so... |
| 02:43.08 | _elmo44_ | anyone know of an app that is web based and does 'work orders' or 'repair orders' |
| 02:43.15 | _elmo44_ | or sometimes called 'repair tickets' |
| 02:44.14 | _elmo44_ | for example, the office receives a phone call from a client, then the office fills out a work order online, and the mobile guy gets an update on his in-vehicle laptop which is always online. |
| 02:44.31 | GPLGeek | adamant1988, wtf jail? |
| 02:44.33 | adamant1988 | _elmo44_: if there isn't any, and you really need it you can put out a bounty for the software. |
| 02:44.44 | adamant1988 | Someone will gladly make it for you on-contract |
| 02:45.18 | GPLGeek | adamant1988, be careful, I know 2 people who have been jailed for molestation when they were in another state when it supposedly happened |
| 02:45.20 | _elmo44_ | there are many PAY versions. I was thinking GNU. Mind you, it is for a business... |
| 02:45.24 | GPLGeek | so he might not be guilty |
| 02:45.48 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: I called him, he admitted it to me. |
| 02:46.07 | GPLGeek | ok... your future or his ass beating? ya its fucked up... |
| 02:46.18 | adamant1988 | _elmo44_: It's not a pay version, it's a "Pay the developer to make what you need" version. The software is still absolutely free. |
| 02:46.19 | GPLGeek | how old was the kid? |
| 02:46.32 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: young, that's all anyone would say to me, very young. |
| 02:47.04 | adamant1988 | So, judging from the sounds of things, we're talking pre-11 year old |
| 02:49.03 | _elmo44_ | adamant1988: i see. There seems to be only 2 at sf.net http://sourceforge.net/projects/coffeeadmin/ and http://sourceforge.net/projects/mhelpdesk/ Many others are too 'large' in that they do entire corporate stuff (in-house communication, inventory... ) |
| 02:50.05 | adamant1988 | _elmo44_: the nice thing about bounties/contracts is you get exactly what you want |
| 02:50.23 | adamant1988 | and you have just payed an open source developer, meaning that they can continue to produce software |
| 02:57.49 | elmo40 | and how do i make a bountie? I have seen many open projects on sf.net, with nothing completed for years. Is there an opensource website for people looking for apps made for them> |
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| 03:08.37 | elmo40 | how do i start sshd again? |
| 03:08.53 | elmo40 | is it: ./usr/sbin/sshd start ? |
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| 03:19.21 | Mutacion | qiubole |
| 03:20.28 | quidam- | MUTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:20.34 | quidam- | Mutacion, :*********** |
| 03:20.36 | quidam- | :-P |
| 03:23.41 | Mutacion | :) |
| 03:23.44 | Mutacion | como va todo? |
| 03:23.51 | Mutacion | qien mas anda ahi xD |
| 03:26.13 | elmo40 | question: If, for some strange reason, someone wants to install Fluxbox, or Xfce, will it automatically get put in the login menu as an option? Or is there something extra needed to be changed? |
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| 03:34.51 | elmo40 | adamant1988: i found a listing. http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Help_Desk/Browser_Based/ |
| 03:34.56 | elmo40 | dmoz.org, nice site! |
| 03:36.09 | adamant1988 | elmo40: you have to be careful about that though |
| 03:36.15 | adamant1988 | removing dead projects from the site often never happens |
| 03:39.27 | Mutacion | qiubole elmo40 |
| 03:42.31 | elmo40 | adamant1988: so very true |
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| 04:43.31 | Elive_user77 | hey anyone know how to change the time it takes for your screen saver to go on? |
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| 06:15.39 | GPLGeek | bestbuy admits to false advertising, using fud, and open source bashing |
| 06:21.20 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: I read that, pretty funny stuff |
| 06:28.44 | GPLGeek | adamant1988, they said that linux was to os viruses were made on and that you can only be secure on a windows pc , up to date, with their spy sweeper program for 49.99 and their anti-virus |
| 06:29.03 | adamant1988 | lol |
| 06:29.12 | adamant1988 | anyone who believes bestbuy about technology is stupid. |
| 06:29.18 | GPLGeek | quote "your pc can't burn in right without speakers, I reccomend the logitech" |
| 06:29.38 | adamant1988 | dubbya tee fuck |
| 06:29.54 | GPLGeek | ya but in the papers they were advertising CRAZY LOW prices and then the stores would not even have the item, or they would use a series of lan websites vs internet websites to trick the customer |
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| 06:31.31 | adamant1988 | Best buy is stupid and should be charged for this as fraud |
| 06:31.56 | GPLGeek | aparently if they admit it and change quick enough they think they can get out of a lawsuit |
| 06:35.02 | adamant1988 | lol |
| 06:35.08 | adamant1988 | maybe, by the skin of their teeth. |
| 06:35.50 | GPLGeek | they also might be forced to credit buyers money, and offer linux in store. |
| 06:36.00 | GPLGeek | but thats just speculation |
| 06:36.07 | GPLGeek | I've seen that happen other places |
| 06:36.09 | adamant1988 | That would be hilarious. |
| 06:39.23 | GPLGeek | quote by GPLGeek "One must be knowledgeable and promote a product on sound reasoning. A lie may shy real users away from a product. Among the consumers are the brightest minds in the world. That said, Microsoft Windows lights baby kittens on fire and throws them at school children" |
| 06:40.14 | GPLGeek | you can't prove its a lie. Show me pictures of it not happening, everywhere in the world, at every time since windows creation. |
| 06:43.18 | adamant1988 | LOL |
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| 08:02.22 | quamaretto | Hey, my elive is totally borked |
| 08:03.04 | quamaretto | I installed back in 3.0 somewhere and then one day a bunch of dependencies broke, and now entrance doesn't come up and I'm down to using xinit and the fonts are wacky. Any quick fix? |
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| 10:17.47 | assasukasse | LinuxNIT, are u here? |
| 10:29.03 | wasynyt | good day everyone |
| 10:29.18 | assasukasse | hello wasynyt |
| 10:29.25 | assasukasse | how long have been using elive? |
| 10:29.52 | wasynyt | hmm year supporting, using not actually |
| 10:30.39 | assasukasse | wasynyt: did u have ever upgraded a system with elive? either via apt-get either via cd |
| 10:30.59 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 10:31.22 | wasynyt | i remember doing apt-get way.. but that was way too long ago |
| 10:31.55 | assasukasse | im asking this because next week there will be the 0.6.5 release..and i wanted to upgrade using the cd, however i don't wanna end up with a borked system or a blank one |
| 10:31.59 | wasynyt | but my time is very limited |
| 10:32.33 | assasukasse | same here wasynyt that's why i need a system that can be upgraded easily w/o hassle |
| 10:32.43 | wasynyt | assasukasse, if you have /home partion you will not have any problems... i have done distro changes with that way... |
| 10:32.46 | wasynyt | :P |
| 10:33.05 | assasukasse | wasynyt: i agree, but what about the packages i installed? |
| 10:33.11 | assasukasse | and the config i made? |
| 10:33.43 | wasynyt | all your preferences will stay and themes etc too... well those need to be installed again.. config usually stays at /home/user/.programname |
| 10:34.01 | wasynyt | try browsing your home folder with firefox |
| 10:34.14 | wasynyt | type in firefox /home/myownname |
| 10:34.18 | assasukasse | im running apache and other stuff, i don't want to reinstall them neither to waste time by reconfiguring... |
| 10:34.27 | assasukasse | jup is full of .prog |
| 10:35.19 | wasynyt | well if i had prog config that stay in /... which will ge over written i would just copy those to /home... and then copy back... just like i do with my xorg.conf... which is hand made |
| 10:35.20 | wasynyt | :D |
| 10:35.38 | wasynyt | *get |
| 10:36.12 | assasukasse | my problem is this: for example i installed some libs that i need for compilation, plus apache server, plus other stuff will the elive upgrade roll this over? :) coz if yes then is a problem for me...means i am stuck with this release |
| 10:36.20 | assasukasse | wasynyt: yes i got.. |
| 10:36.58 | assasukasse | i heard thana was working on an upgrader from the cd, but i dunno how it went |
| 10:37.02 | assasukasse | and how it works! |
| 10:37.31 | wasynyt | hmm the thing is that when doing complete system update the "upgrader way" usually sucks.. tho thana might get it working.. but i have not tested that |
| 10:38.44 | assasukasse | wasynyt: until 2 weeks ago i was on ubuntu and worked pretty fine, however was slow, so i decided for elive, and is damn faster..but if i am stuck is a problem, even for example puppylinux let u upgrade easily... |
| 10:40.10 | wasynyt | well that is something you must ask for thana.. tho i think that it might work just by changing apt-get repos.. but then i dont have actual knowledge about it |
| 10:40.46 | assasukasse | wasynyt: another small question, is thana the only maintainer? |
| 10:41.09 | wasynyt | but if such a feature does not exist in elive i am sure thana is planning on it.. yes this is his mission to make world a better place |
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| 10:41.27 | wasynyt | good day sinplomo |
| 10:41.37 | assasukasse | because i saw many small linux distro die because of only one maintainer...u know nobody is always healthy neither has always plenty of time |
| 10:41.46 | sinplomo | hi wasynyt |
| 10:41.48 | sinplomo | hi * |
| 10:41.51 | assasukasse | hi sinplomo |
| 10:42.24 | wasynyt | assasukasse, yeah that could happen but then that is only way for him to make sure that everything goes his way |
| 10:43.29 | assasukasse | wasynyt: i agree, i was just thinking what happened to kanotix, that i was using till 3 years ago, i dunno if u heard there were 2 heavy developer, one left and made a fork... |
| 10:43.29 | wasynyt | and i must admit that i agree with that point seeing how much problems projects usually generate.. |
| 10:43.51 | wasynyt | well there is only one so no forks :D |
| 10:44.42 | wasynyt | but i dont remember that case |
| 10:45.15 | assasukasse | :) i remember when i installed e16 on my first ubuntu, over kde :D was a crazy idea but worked...e17 instead has always given me problems..now with elive i can use it and stable! |
| 10:45.34 | wasynyt | still in this case if you feel you could do something for elive just feel free to ask from thana if you could help |
| 10:46.00 | wasynyt | yeah he has done great job with enlightenment |
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| 11:03.28 | assasukasse | wasynyt: i absolutely agree |
| 11:07.11 | assasukasse | wasynyt_mac: u switch into your mac? :D |
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| 11:14.53 | assasukasse | sinplomo: how long have u been using elive |
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| 11:17.20 | assasukasse | wb wasynyt |
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| 12:38.25 | Detox_at_Home | I have upgraded several times and it went flwawlessly |
| 12:38.43 | Detox_at_Home | had no problems |
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| 13:07.10 | sinplomo | assasukasse, I used debian before ... elive is debian |
| 13:07.11 | sinplomo | :) |
| 13:08.10 | sinplomo | I knew elive some years ago |
| 13:08.17 | sinplomo | the first release |
| 13:08.26 | sinplomo | based on knoppix |
| 13:08.39 | sinplomo | e17 was unstable ... VERY unstable |
| 13:08.53 | sinplomo | and you couldn't install it on the hd |
| 13:08.54 | sinplomo | hehe |
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| 13:19.09 | assasukasse | sinplomo: i met elive at that time as well..was 0.3 or something like that |
| 13:19.38 | assasukasse | Detox_at_Home_BB: did u install any package and was it retained? |
| 13:21.55 | assasukasse | sinplomo: my problem is this, i installed some libs for a particular program to work, also installed apache, and other stuffs, i don't want to lose them when i upgrade via the cd installer |
| 13:23.30 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, HI |
| 13:23.41 | assasukasse | hi PrinceAMD |
| 13:23.45 | wizard123 | hi all :] |
| 13:23.50 | assasukasse | hi wizard123 |
| 13:24.01 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, hi |
| 13:24.02 | assasukasse | seems is wakeup time over there in us :D |
| 13:24.19 | PrinceAMD | ok. |
| 13:24.28 | PrinceAMD | how is kde 4 wizard123 |
| 13:24.48 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, i started using elive at versionb 4.2 |
| 13:25.09 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: did u always upgrade using the cd installer? with separate /home? |
| 13:25.18 | wizard123 | PrinceAMD: shitty ;) |
| 13:25.37 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.38 | wizard123 | PrinceAMD: many things haven't been ported yer |
| 13:25.44 | wizard123 | yet* |
| 13:25.51 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, ok |
| 13:25.55 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, no |
| 13:26.04 | wizard123 | actually, nothing new, but i had to check :D |
| 13:26.15 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, most elive versions i test. so i just reinstall alot |
| 13:26.47 | wizard123 | oh no, apt is updating flash :| |
| 13:26.55 | wizard123 | so.. see you later, flash |
| 13:27.14 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: that is what i need to know, im gonna leave this elive as a workstation, however i can't always redo all the settings for each time there is a new elive version... |
| 13:27.32 | assasukasse | neither i want to stick with this one since i am happy to try new features |
| 13:27.40 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, yes some times that get's me |
| 13:28.09 | PrinceAMD | you should try the latest one |
| 13:28.21 | PrinceAMD | i have not but i will today hopefully |
| 13:28.24 | wizard123 | i use apt-get to upgrade my system |
| 13:28.34 | PrinceAMD | i need a cdrom drive to do that |
| 13:28.34 | wizard123 | usually everything works |
| 13:28.57 | PrinceAMD | i can remember having problems upgrading elive 4.2 to 5.0 |
| 13:29.11 | assasukasse | because if this is the case, is a big problem for me, and eventually i will switch back to ubuntu that let me upgrade with no problems... wizard123 but with apt-get u don't get all the new features that thana adds in new ones |
| 13:29.32 | wizard123 | hmm.. i don't care about them ^^ |
| 13:30.04 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, i think thana fixed the upgrade problem maybe if u had like elive 0.5 and u upgrade to 6.4 there is no problem |
| 13:30.17 | wizard123 | actually.. after few years of using linux i feel more comfortable under 'featureless' distros |
| 13:30.27 | PrinceAMD | cus i got 0.5.5 and i got all the features 0.6.4 |
| 13:30.43 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: i have 0.6.4 but i wanna up to 0.6.5 because i can't wait to try the new e w/o eap |
| 13:30.52 | PrinceAMD | root@Elive-5[~]# cat /etc/elive-version |
| 13:30.52 | PrinceAMD | elive-codename: Revolution + |
| 13:30.52 | PrinceAMD | elive-version: 0.5.5 |
| 13:31.09 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 13:31.28 | PrinceAMD | is elive 0.6.5 out yet? |
| 13:31.33 | wizard123 | # cat /etc/elive-version |
| 13:31.34 | wizard123 | cat: /etc/elive-version: No such file or directory |
| 13:31.37 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 13:31.41 | PrinceAMD | LOL |
| 13:31.48 | assasukasse | agostino@Elive[~]$ sudo cat /etc/elive-version |
| 13:31.48 | assasukasse | Password: |
| 13:31.48 | assasukasse | elive-codename: Revolution rl2+ |
| 13:31.48 | assasukasse | elive-version: 0.6.4 |
| 13:31.58 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 13:32.00 | wizard123 | oops, wrong tab :D |
| 13:32.33 | wizard123 | ptok% cat /etc/elive-version |
| 13:32.34 | wizard123 | elive-version: 0.3 |
| 13:32.34 | wizard123 | debian-version: etch |
| 13:32.35 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 13:32.54 | PrinceAMD | WTF!!! |
| 13:32.56 | assasukasse | acch im the youngest |
| 13:33.01 | wizard123 | dunno |
| 13:33.33 | sinplomo | $ cat /etc/elive-version |
| 13:33.51 | sinplomo | elive-version: 0.5-beta-3 |
| 13:33.51 | sinplomo | date-builded: 2006-08-01 |
| 13:33.51 | sinplomo | debian-version: testing |
| 13:33.51 | sinplomo | assasukasse, for upgrading I just do apt-get upgrade |
| 13:34.07 | PrinceAMD | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:34.17 | wizard123 | i use synaptic |
| 13:34.27 | PrinceAMD | dist-upgrae will upgrade u to the latest cd setting |
| 13:34.31 | assasukasse | sinplomo: i read on elive forum that if i upgrade this way i am not gonna get thana new feature |
| 13:34.38 | PrinceAMD | well some of the settings |
| 13:34.48 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: latest cd settings of what? debian or elive? |
| 13:34.57 | PrinceAMD | elive |
| 13:35.30 | assasukasse | so a simple aptitude dist-upgrade would do the trick when 0.6.5 is out? |
| 13:35.45 | PrinceAMD | ye |
| 13:35.48 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 13:35.50 | wizard123 | it should |
| 13:36.07 | assasukasse | what about eventual new config thana did? |
| 13:36.36 | PrinceAMD | unless he hide some porn pictues with in the iso, and didnt add them to the elive rispo |
| 13:37.11 | assasukasse | perfect then my question eventually found an answer :D |
| 13:37.27 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, i'm sure u'll get all of that, but untill 0.6.5 comes out next week then u'll know for sure |
| 13:37.57 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: when 0.6.5 is out, i will bother thana to try to get more info out before i upgrade :D |
| 13:38.30 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, there is no need to do that |
| 13:38.55 | PrinceAMD | thana works hard to give his users what they want and upgrading is one key feature |
| 13:38.55 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: why u didn't upgrade lately? |
| 13:39.54 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, i did |
| 13:40.03 | PrinceAMD | i have everything 0.6.4 got |
| 13:40.07 | PrinceAMD | and well even more |
| 13:40.10 | assasukasse | ah! |
| 13:40.18 | PrinceAMD | just that my version no# didnt change |
| 13:40.19 | assasukasse | with upgrade or dist-upgrade |
| 13:40.27 | PrinceAMD | yes both i use |
| 13:40.36 | assasukasse | ah right...there is no package for the version# |
| 13:40.40 | wizard123 | i'm big fan of stability :D thats why i have unstable repos ;) |
| 13:41.03 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, HELL YEA!!!! |
| 13:41.20 | assasukasse | so PrinceAMD in the end, when 0.6.5 is out u advice me to go for dist-upgrade, for upgrade, or for both |
| 13:41.24 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, do u mean tests by unstable respo/ |
| 13:41.47 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, i advice u to go for both |
| 13:42.24 | assasukasse | oki doki, i already have a few packaged in hold..because debian walked away from me from this week install |
| 13:42.25 | wizard123 | PrinceAMD: ? |
| 13:42.52 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, does elive have unstable repso? or did u mean the tests respo |
| 13:43.18 | wizard123 | i forgot.. |
| 13:43.37 | wizard123 | because i changed it long time ago :P |
| 13:43.47 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 13:43.53 | PrinceAMD | deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive tests |
| 13:44.18 | wizard123 | hmm.. PrinceAMD i need new name for my distro |
| 13:44.23 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: what will happens if i send apt-get upgrade NOW |
| 13:44.59 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, just old files will be upgraded |
| 13:45.11 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, is it for blackcat? |
| 13:45.24 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: because no new elive is out right? |
| 13:45.37 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, yea |
| 13:45.45 | assasukasse | got perfect |
| 13:45.46 | PrinceAMD | i do apt-get upgrade every day |
| 13:45.53 | assasukasse | no difference than ubuntu |
| 13:46.02 | PrinceAMD | just to keep the debian files updated |
| 13:46.06 | wizard123 | yeah, PrinceAMD i found that balckcat is taken |
| 13:46.24 | PrinceAMD | WTF!!! |
| 13:46.26 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: let me do upgrade now to check if debian needs some upgrades.. |
| 13:46.36 | assasukasse | hope i won't break :D |
| 13:46.39 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, what will u name it now? |
| 13:46.47 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, it wont break |
| 13:47.40 | wizard123 | PrinceAMD: i don't know! |
| 13:47.48 | wizard123 | i'm out of ideas ? |
| 13:47.54 | wizard123 | VodkaOS ? |
| 13:48.02 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, WizardBSD |
| 13:48.16 | assasukasse | x-server-xorg is upgraded...won't break my nvidia no? |
| 13:48.24 | assasukasse | wizard123: horilkOS |
| 13:48.36 | PrinceAMD | only one way to find out assasukasse |
| 13:48.58 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: i guess is pressing the Y on the keyb :D that's what i did :D |
| 13:49.11 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 13:49.42 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 13:50.07 | wizard123 | XOS, and apple will sue me |
| 13:50.17 | assasukasse | woooo on vobcopy there is new gkrellm :D i can't wait! |
| 13:50.19 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, yea i know |
| 13:50.32 | assasukasse | wizard123: what about WOs |
| 13:50.55 | wizard123 | i would prefere a word, abbrevations are to geeky |
| 13:51.29 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, what window manager will u use in you bsd os? |
| 13:51.29 | assasukasse | bsd os? :D nice! |
| 13:51.40 | assasukasse | is long i don't see a bsd stuff, last one was pcbsd pretty nice but heavy |
| 13:51.41 | wizard123 | bsd/os is out for more than 15 years.. |
| 13:52.17 | wizard123 | but it will be gnu/linux.. with pkgsrc from netbsd |
| 13:53.11 | wizard123 | :] |
| 13:53.37 | wizard123 | *ekhm* |
| 13:53.43 | wizard123 | i havent released anything |
| 13:53.45 | wizard123 | yet |
| 13:53.59 | wizard123 | but i still remember that you wanted to help |
| 13:55.19 | wizard123 | hello broadcast |
| 13:55.23 | wizard123 | hello Begasus |
| 13:55.26 | wizard123 | aww :< |
| 13:55.32 | Begasus | 'lo wizard123 :) |
| 13:55.49 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, cool |
| 13:57.24 | wizard123 | hmm.. |
| 13:58.05 | PrinceAMD | Linux Elive-5.5 2.6.20.1 #2 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 28 00:41:52 GYT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 13:58.34 | wizard123 | # uname -a |
| 13:58.35 | wizard123 | FreeBSD jail.warez 6.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #1: Wed Oct 11 23:13:46 CEST 2006 root@warez:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/mati i386 |
| 13:59.06 | PrinceAMD | where is the kernel? |
| 13:59.22 | wizard123 | 6.1-RELEASE-p10 |
| 13:59.27 | PrinceAMD | oh |
| 14:00.29 | wizard123 | hmm.. i found i have two jails running on that machine |
| 14:00.32 | wizard123 | funny :] |
| 14:01.30 | wizard123 | hmm.. only 500MB.. |
| 14:03.46 | assasukasse | what is a jail |
| 14:03.49 | assasukasse | chroot? |
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| 14:19.27 | roxville | elive now has the SAME points as xubuntu... but one place behind |
| 14:19.42 | roxville | please go to distrowatch.com and click on elive :) |
| 14:21.09 | assasukasse | roxville: WOOOOO |
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| 14:27.39 | assasukasse | simply login and out? |
| 14:27.45 | assasukasse | or ctrl-alt-del |
| 14:27.48 | assasukasse | then relogin |
| 14:29.02 | roxville | ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 14:29.27 | roxville | ctrl+alt+<- |
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| 14:30.18 | wizard123 | hello roxville |
| 14:30.38 | Neonman | hola |
| 14:30.40 | Neonman | lello |
| 14:30.44 | Neonman | hello |
| 14:31.09 | wizard123 | hello Neonman |
| 14:31.11 | Neonman | i need help for mount a pendrive |
| 14:31.19 | Neonman | in spanish please |
| 14:31.24 | wizard123 | heh |
| 14:31.33 | assasukasse | roxville: i am going to do now :D |
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| 14:36.14 | assasukasse | everything went fine |
| 14:36.17 | assasukasse | im here again! |
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| 14:44.14 | assasukasse | on mplayer, which video driver is the fastest and smoothest? xv? gl? |
| 14:44.40 | wizard123 | depends on your hardware |
| 14:44.46 | wizard123 | for me xv is the best |
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| 14:46.40 | assasukasse | double buffering on? |
| 14:47.11 | wizard123 | i don't know |
| 14:47.21 | wizard123 | xvmc enabled :] |
| 14:48.00 | roxville | xv works fine here too |
| 14:48.36 | roxville | if you have over 256mb ram, i doun't think you need double buffering |
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| 15:19.31 | kender | hello |
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| 15:23.56 | PrinceAMD | An Entire Californian School District Is Saying 'Good-Bye Windows, Hello Linux!' |
| 15:29.17 | Elive_user86 | :D |
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| 15:48.12 | assasukasse | roxville: thanks, i have 768 :D but i am not satisfied, the picture is not so sharp |
| 15:49.12 | roxville | ok |
| 15:49.30 | roxville | well you are more than welcome to mess around with your own system :) |
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| 15:54.00 | assasukasse | lolll :D |
| 15:57.11 | assasukasse | i compiled gaim beta 6 from sources, now i want to give dist-upgrade and it wants to revert to gaim 5, how do i prevent it? i locked it in synaptic but no way, not even forcing the version helps.. |
| 15:59.11 | roxville | there's something called apt-pinning... that will help you with versions of apps |
| 15:59.38 | roxville | but you have to look it up, i tried it once, a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago |
| 16:00.01 | roxville | so i don't remember HOW to do it |
| 16:00.26 | roxville | you can also make a deb, so you can easily install it again after upgrading |
| 16:02.27 | assasukasse | i made a deb with checkinstall |
| 16:03.04 | roxville | and make a backup of your settings |
| 16:03.30 | roxville | but pat-pinning is very cool, so it may worth looking up |
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| 16:09.41 | Rubasub | Hi Wasynyt & Assasukasse...success!!!! one of you guys mentioned downloading upgrades yestarday and when I checked my other distros they were using things like Kmix 2.6 (using kde 3.5.5) Sound has resumed :)) |
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| 16:10.10 | wasynyt | good evening everyone |
| 16:10.38 | wasynyt | Rubasub, so you got your machines sound working ? |
| 16:11.56 | Rubasub | Yer |
| 16:12.14 | Rubasub | I'm listening right now to online tv |
| 16:12.42 | wasynyt | nice |
| 16:13.13 | Rubasub | It's been bugging me eversince I downloaded elive... |
| 16:13.41 | Rubasub | There's so much multimedia stuff on this distro that I had to get the sound going |
| 16:15.46 | wasynyt | heh |
| 16:16.19 | wasynyt | well it has had so much work on it that it has become very easy to use |
| 16:16.45 | Rubasub | it definatly seems well polished |
| 16:18.01 | wasynyt | it is |
| 16:23.06 | assasukasse | i totally agree |
| 16:23.25 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:23.44 | assasukasse | is really a pity that debian is still a bit behind ubuntu for some stupid packages...such as gaim beta6...i had to compile myself.. |
| 16:25.25 | wasynyt | well i think that some parts the debian way is right.. as stability over bleeding edge is correct.. but when there is no 3d drivers etc... it is not good |
| 16:25.54 | Rubasub | I can send you screen shot of the feature in Wolvix if you like |
| 16:26.04 | wasynyt | send if you wish |
| 16:26.15 | Rubasub | ok I'll try |
| 16:29.27 | wasynyt | humm is not comming try something like imageshack |
| 16:29.58 | Rubasub | imageshack? |
| 16:30.31 | wasynyt | .. |
| 16:31.21 | assasukasse | Rubasub: i used wolwix long time ago |
| 16:31.24 | assasukasse | it a nice distro |
| 16:31.32 | assasukasse | and the developer is very listenings to your needs |
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| 16:32.19 | wasynyt | http://imageshack.us/ |
| 16:32.39 | Rubasub | ok |
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| 16:34.45 | Rubasub | <wasynyt> i can see imageshack and I'll sick some files on it |
| 16:35.18 | wasynyt | heh |
| 16:35.35 | wasynyt | that is what i meant |
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| 16:36.12 | assasukasse | is there anyone using krusader? |
| 16:36.15 | wasynyt | good evening PrinceAMD |
| 16:36.25 | wasynyt | krusader ? |
| 16:36.27 | PrinceAMD | wasynyt, good evening to u too |
| 16:36.34 | PrinceAMD | Begasus_bbl, hurry |
| 16:36.43 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, what's up |
| 16:36.44 | Begasus_bbl | ;) |
| 16:36.47 | assasukasse | yes |
| 16:36.56 | assasukasse | hi PrinceAMD upgrade went fine |
| 16:37.12 | assasukasse | dist-up has not been performed since insisted in upgrading my gaim compiled install |
| 16:37.20 | assasukasse | beside that there was nothing to install.. |
| 16:37.25 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:37.26 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 16:37.35 | PrinceAMD | new gaim looks kool? |
| 16:37.45 | PrinceAMD | i know my amsn from svn is great |
| 16:38.06 | assasukasse | i need something in the way of total commander for windows...i read krusader is the best, however even rox is fine...which one is less hassle to install on elive? |
| 16:38.42 | wasynyt | humm |
| 16:38.42 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: gaim 6 has just a few new features..and is rock stable |
| 16:38.42 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:39.26 | assasukasse | Krusader wants 79mb of libs, so is off |
| 16:40.31 | Rubasub | http://profile.imageshack.us/user/rubasub/images/detail/#258/alsavol2120xa0.jpg |
| 16:40.55 | Rubasub | <wasynyt> That's it uploaded |
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| 16:42.04 | PrinceAMD | Rubasub, hey |
| 16:42.09 | assasukasse | im installing Rox, just 5Mb let's see how is it.. |
| 16:42.15 | assasukasse | hope i can get it work with eap |
| 16:42.35 | Rubasub | <PrinceAMD> hi there |
| 16:43.05 | Rubasub | <PrinceAMD> I got sound on my elive distro! |
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| 16:44.44 | PrinceAMD | Rubasub, that's GOOD!!! |
| 16:44.49 | amagus | howd u do it? |
| 16:45.12 | amagus | i haven't gotten my card running yet, if you could send me a link or tutorial, id love that. |
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| 16:45.45 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/ Rubasub, that link have alot of stuff i created for elive and e17 |
| 16:46.43 | Rubasub | <PrinceAMD> ah thanks... |
| 16:47.00 | PrinceAMD | Rubasub, gl :) |
| 16:47.12 | Rubasub | <amagus> are you talking about sound? |
| 16:47.19 | amagus | yes |
| 16:47.32 | PrinceAMD | amagus, sound huh |
| 16:47.38 | amagus | yeah :\ |
| 16:47.46 | PrinceAMD | amagus, as root run alsaconf |
| 16:47.46 | Rubasub | <PrinceAMD> I'll have a look now |
| 16:47.49 | amagus | on an Emachines N10 laptop |
| 16:48.30 | amagus | thx i forgot about alsa |
| 16:48.51 | amagus | nice it found MCP51 high def audio |
| 16:48.55 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 16:49.02 | Rubasub | <amagus> all I can share is that by installing Kmix in sanaptic package manager it became simple to get sound |
| 16:49.26 | amagus | hmm |
| 16:49.34 | amagus | how do you install something "in" synaptic |
| 16:49.40 | amagus | simple apt-get? |
| 16:49.54 | Rubasub | http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kmixzq2.jpg |
| 16:49.56 | PrinceAMD | amagus, u can run alsamixer to do the stuff |
| 16:50.11 | Rubasub | Prince is right |
| 16:50.45 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: did u make a package for amsn? |
| 16:50.55 | amagus | ok still nothing with alsamixer |
| 16:51.01 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, no |
| 16:51.18 | PrinceAMD | amagus, hm... |
| 16:51.24 | PrinceAMD | open termninal su |
| 16:51.26 | amagus | no label for mcp51 |
| 16:51.26 | PrinceAMD | go in root |
| 16:51.33 | amagus | only iec958 |
| 16:51.48 | amagus | alrighty |
| 16:51.52 | PrinceAMD | then run gnome-alsamixer |
| 16:52.16 | amagus | same |
| 16:52.28 | PrinceAMD | wtf |
| 16:52.28 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:52.47 | Rubasub | Kmix ;) |
| 16:52.58 | amagus | ive read something about my particular card not being supported yet :\ |
| 16:53.25 | amagus | ok d/ling |
| 16:53.37 | amagus | you guys are so nice |
| 16:53.37 | amagus | thx |
| 16:53.39 | amagus | lol |
| 16:53.47 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 16:54.02 | PrinceAMD | elive have a very friendly community |
| 16:54.07 | amagus | word |
| 16:54.20 | amagus | i try to help people if i can figure out their problem |
| 16:54.27 | amagus | its nice to have a community for such things |
| 16:54.27 | PrinceAMD | X3n0n, PING! |
| 16:54.38 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 16:55.02 | amagus | amagus ping ? |
| 16:55.19 | amagus | ok same thing guys, iec958 again |
| 16:55.19 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir=Screenshots/ amagus take a look at some of those just to show u what elive + e17 can do |
| 16:55.38 | PrinceAMD | what is the name of your card? |
| 16:55.42 | PrinceAMD | full name |
| 16:57.12 | amagus | nice |
| 16:57.16 | amagus | h/o idk |
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| 16:57.23 | assasukasse | is there anyone using emelfm? i can't make, like always, an eap |
| 16:58.16 | PrinceAMD | emelfm? |
| 16:58.56 | assasukasse | yes |
| 16:59.17 | assasukasse | Neonman: habla ingles? |
| 16:59.48 | Neonman | assasukasse yes |
| 17:00.03 | assasukasse | Neonman: ask in english so that everyone understands |
| 17:02.05 | wasynyt | apt x es en ahora boteo con una E-Live me reconoce el pendrive pero no me lanza el automont |
| 17:03.58 | PrinceAMD | apt give assasukasse a beer |
| 17:04.00 | apt | ACTION hands assasukasse a cold beer |
| 17:05.02 | wasynyt | people remember that a) this is multi language chanel and b) apt can translate |
| 17:05.34 | assasukasse | thanks apt :D |
| 17:05.56 | assasukasse | Neonman: which version of elive are u using? |
| 17:06.50 | Neonman | i no cont this information |
| 17:06.55 | amagus | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/Screenshots/trans-in-action.jpg |
| 17:07.10 | Neonman | no tengo esa informacion |
| 17:07.22 | amagus | what is the program which you are running prince? in the left hand side of the desktop with all the sys info in it. |
| 17:09.45 | Rubasub | good question, but what's the answer |
| 17:10.14 | Rubasub | I have them running on my wolvix edition but don't know what their called |
| 17:10.27 | hermit2 | I would say it is gkrellm |
| 17:10.49 | amagus | so hes running two instances of them? |
| 17:11.08 | amagus | see i haven't seen anything but the style in the right hand side of the screenshot |
| 17:11.13 | assasukasse | ah i found the best! tuxcommander! |
| 17:11.24 | assasukasse | of course the eap doesn't work but the program rocks |
| 17:11.26 | hermit2 | oh, you did say left side... i'm directionally impaired...:) |
| 17:11.35 | amagus | lol its ok |
| 17:11.51 | Rubasub | are they native to elive |
| 17:12.25 | amagus | and does anybodies transparency display the default background in the gkrellm? |
| 17:13.05 | amagus | i have a different picture for my background, and gkrellm set with transparency, but the transparency displays in gkrellm the default elive BG!! |
| 17:13.08 | amagus | weeird |
| 17:13.50 | amagus | Prince AMD, do you know what program is in the left hand side of the screen which displays your sys info? http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/Screenshots/trans-in-action.jpg |
| 17:14.02 | hermit2 | if you set it to invisible you should see your bg |
| 17:14.39 | amagus | nope :P |
| 17:16.15 | hermit2 | I don't know why it wouldn't |
| 17:16.41 | amagus | oh well |
| 17:16.46 | assasukasse | hermit2: he has first to take the "snapshot" for transparencies |
| 17:17.37 | assasukasse | amagus launch the background manager, then take a snapshot to use as transparency |
| 17:17.44 | amagus | ah |
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| 17:18.04 | roxville | that's a terminal... possibly running htop |
| 17:20.40 | wizard123 | gone ~3 hours |
| 17:20.42 | wizard123 | :P |
| 17:21.06 | amagus | hello wizard123 |
| 17:21.16 | amagus | sup roxville how r u |
| 17:21.27 | amagus | im lovin this community |
| 17:21.31 | roxville | hey amagus i'm ok :) |
| 17:21.56 | roxville | i'm trying to find good ppl to add as "friends" on my myspace account |
| 17:21.57 | PrinceAMD | amagus, program name conky |
| 17:21.57 | amagus | good good |
| 17:22.00 | amagus | im soundless |
| 17:22.06 | amagus | but everything else to honkey dory |
| 17:22.19 | roxville | i hear ya |
| 17:22.23 | roxville | but you don't :P |
| 17:22.29 | amagus | ha |
| 17:22.33 | roxville | ok, that was mean, sorry |
| 17:22.38 | amagus | it was a good one |
| 17:22.40 | amagus | lol |
| 17:22.56 | amagus | yeah im working on this and a report for english simultaneously |
| 17:23.04 | amagus | got farther on the sound card tho :) |
| 17:26.58 | Rubasub | <amagus> stick with it, I had no sound util someone here prompted me to try upgrades |
| 17:27.16 | PrinceAMD | I'M GOING IN TOWN TO BUY MY DVD BURNER |
| 17:27.33 | Gwildor | :D |
| 17:27.36 | roxville | yeah PrinceAMD awesome! |
| 17:27.36 | Gwildor | get me one too :D |
| 17:27.41 | PrinceAMD | SO WHEN I COME BACK IT'S ELIVE 0.6.4 IN MY ASS |
| 17:27.47 | Rubasub | <PrinceAMD> you have all the best ideas |
| 17:27.53 | PrinceAMD | IT'S ABOUT TIME I GET A NEW DRIVE |
| 17:27.53 | Gwildor | O_o |
| 17:28.08 | PrinceAMD | it's been what like 5 weeks with out a drive |
| 17:28.21 | Gwildor | yeah, my CD-burner died some months ago.. |
| 17:28.21 | PrinceAMD | i'm excited |
| 17:28.29 | Gwildor | i still have a dvd-rom though |
| 17:28.37 | PrinceAMD | i got none |
| 17:28.46 | Gwildor | :( |
| 17:28.46 | Rubasub | I have three in pc |
| 17:28.56 | PrinceAMD | i got 3 pc and no drives |
| 17:28.57 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 17:29.00 | Gwildor | hehe |
| 17:29.00 | PrinceAMD | i'm the boom |
| 17:29.07 | Gwildor | my lappy has no cd-rom no floppy :( |
| 17:29.12 | PrinceAMD | WTF |
| 17:29.13 | Rubasub | I'm still on a live cd |
| 17:29.18 | wizard123 | aww |
| 17:29.21 | PrinceAMD | now suppose u had windows and it crash |
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| 17:29.44 | Rubasub | life is tuff for Windows |
| 17:29.46 | Gwildor | well, im on the lappy now... i jsut grabbed a lappy-hdd to IDE converrter last weekend |
| 17:29.50 | PrinceAMD | anyhow i'll do some test burns when i come back |
| 17:29.58 | assasukasse | i have an old laptop with a celeron 300 and 192mb ram, would it be cool for elive? im currently running puppylinux |
| 17:30.13 | wizard123 | linux = linux, assasukasse |
| 17:30.15 | PrinceAMD | http://news.softpedia.com/news/An-Entire-Californian-School-District-Is-Saying-039-Good-Bye-Windows-Hello-Linux-039-48523.shtml read up on ie hehe |
| 17:30.30 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, YES!!! |
| 17:31.24 | wizard123 | i sense wasynyt here |
| 17:31.50 | Gwildor | will be restarting X inna few |
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| 17:33.28 | SuperpeZ | hello |
| 17:33.35 | wizard123 | hi SuperpeZ |
| 17:33.40 | SuperpeZ | hello wizard123 |
| 17:33.41 | SuperpeZ | :) |
| 17:33.56 | SuperpeZ | I'm looking for f4l |
| 17:34.17 | wizard123 | !seen f4l |
| 17:34.17 | diabetik | wizard123: I have not seen f4l. |
| 17:34.24 | SuperpeZ | sorry |
| 17:34.24 | roxville | f4l? |
| 17:34.28 | wizard123 | :D |
| 17:34.31 | SuperpeZ | not is some people |
| 17:34.35 | SuperpeZ | is flash for linux |
| 17:34.41 | wizard123 | it is in ports |
| 17:34.42 | roxville | fu*k for less? |
| 17:34.47 | roxville | oh... |
| 17:34.48 | wizard123 | omg |
| 17:34.56 | wizard123 | in apt rather |
| 17:35.18 | SuperpeZ | where is this? |
| 17:36.05 | wizard123 | apt-get install ... |
| 17:36.43 | SuperpeZ | thanks :) |
| 17:36.54 | wizard123 | your welcome |
| 17:37.22 | SuperpeZ | but... I havenĀ“'t connection on my elive, pc |
| 17:37.37 | SuperpeZ | I have to download id |
| 17:37.38 | SuperpeZ | it |
| 17:38.09 | wizard123 | hmm.. |
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| 17:38.28 | wizard123 | so you can use web interface from debian.org |
| 17:38.53 | wasynyt | good evening Gwildor |
| 17:39.03 | Gwildor | :D good day wasynyt |
| 17:39.06 | SuperpeZ | I go to try it, thanks :) |
| 17:40.47 | wizard123 | :] |
| 17:40.48 | amagus | no offence, but eap editor sux |
| 17:41.01 | amagus | what is wrong with it! just no dev working ? |
| 17:41.12 | amagus | ..on it |
| 17:41.18 | wasynyt | that it |
| 17:41.24 | amagus | its really pissing me off |
| 17:41.24 | amagus | lol |
| 17:41.29 | wasynyt | there is just too little enlightenment devs |
| 17:41.29 | wizard123 | true |
| 17:41.35 | amagus | just how i can do certian things ;) |
| 17:41.41 | wizard123 | and too much work to do |
| 17:41.45 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 17:41.47 | amagus | damn, this makes me want to code so bad |
| 17:41.54 | wasynyt | they have done great job |
| 17:41.54 | amagus | u kno |
| 17:41.54 | amagus | lol |
| 17:41.59 | amagus | so far, indeed |
| 17:42.03 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:42.06 | wasynyt | just do it |
| 17:42.22 | wasynyt | i am sure the will need help |
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| 17:42.54 | wasynyt | at least on those apps.. like manager and eap editor |
| 17:44.25 | amagus | definately |
| 17:45.04 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:45.09 | wasynyt | just do it |
| 17:45.10 | wasynyt | :P |
| 17:50.37 | assasukasse | in the new e i heard eap are deprecated, so what should we use by then? and all the apps will still be there? |
| 17:50.51 | wasynyt | what are you thinking wizard123 |
| 17:51.01 | wizard123 | instaling :P |
| 17:51.06 | wasynyt | :E |
| 17:51.10 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:51.11 | wizard123 | i don't know why i love this os |
| 17:51.18 | wasynyt | humm |
| 17:51.22 | wasynyt | but you do |
| 17:51.24 | wasynyt | :P |
| 17:51.29 | wizard123 | yeah.. |
| 17:51.39 | wasynyt | well congrats then |
| 17:51.50 | wizard123 | so romantic.. |
| 17:51.54 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:52.35 | wasynyt | huh |
| 17:52.39 | wizard123 | s/fuel/beer/g |
| 17:52.46 | wizard123 | brb |
| 17:52.51 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:52.52 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:53.02 | hermit2 | they aren't deprecated assasukasse, just different and easier to make I think |
| 17:54.29 | assasukasse | hermit2: great so when i give dist-up i won't end up with a blank menu :D |
| 17:59.35 | hermit2 | right :) |
| 18:13.19 | Rubasub | hermit2>gkrellm is up and running but conky didn't show up after installation |
| 18:14.09 | Rubasub | gkrellm quite a postmodern looking info box |
| 18:14.56 | hermit2 | you probablly have to call conky from a terminal |
| 18:15.54 | Rubasub | maybe, do you think running two similar things could jam it |
| 18:20.08 | Rubasub | hmm. Madbatch error, never mind |
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| 18:21.13 | assasukasse | how do i play ram files? |
| 18:22.40 | wasynyt | ram files ? |
| 18:23.06 | Gwildor | wasynyt, you now how to add other DE/WM to entrance? |
| 18:23.15 | wasynyt | nope |
| 18:23.23 | Gwildor | boomers |
| 18:23.54 | wasynyt | :S |
| 18:24.09 | wasynyt | i just know my way around xorg |
| 18:25.31 | Gwildor | hehe |
| 18:25.44 | Gwildor | ill prob end up loading manually... |
| 18:25.47 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 18:25.50 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:25.52 | Gwildor | jsut comparing performance |
| 18:26.10 | Gwildor | though, if one is WAY better...ill have to switch |
| 18:26.26 | wasynyt | ? |
| 18:27.14 | Gwildor | using E17 now.. |
| 18:27.20 | wasynyt | humm |
| 18:27.31 | Gwildor | im gonna test flux vs xfce4 vs E17.... for performance.. |
| 18:27.59 | wasynyt | for what purpose |
| 18:28.10 | Gwildor | my thought are... my performance (or lack of) is no fault of E17....but, if im wrong... ill switch to other DE |
| 18:28.26 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 18:28.35 | Gwildor | but, i dont think its E |
| 18:28.41 | Gwildor | my thoughts are Xorg |
| 18:28.49 | Gwildor | in general |
| 18:28.54 | Gwildor | its a beast |
| 18:29.20 | wasynyt | well xorg is a huge thing.. |
| 18:30.42 | Gwildor | what does DSL use??.. fbvesa or something.. Kdrive... i dont recall.. |
| 18:30.53 | Gwildor | anywho, i wonder how E would run on that X server |
| 18:31.39 | Gwildor | maybe... ill jsut digg up more ram |
| 18:31.48 | assasukasse | maybe Kvesa gwildor if i remember good |
| 18:31.57 | Gwildor | ahhh...probably |
| 18:32.03 | assasukasse | or Xvesa |
| 18:32.15 | assasukasse | anyway u won't have any acceleration+ |
| 18:32.31 | wasynyt | :S |
| 18:32.50 | wasynyt | Gwildor, what hardware are you running on |
| 18:33.10 | Gwildor | assasukasse, no acceleration anyways |
| 18:33.21 | Gwildor | 800mhz compaq armada m700 |
| 18:33.44 | wasynyt | what graphics adaptore |
| 18:33.59 | Gwildor | internets says rage mobility... |
| 18:34.07 | Gwildor | Elive says radeon 7000/VE |
| 18:34.24 | wasynyt | hmm rage mobility has 3d functions |
| 18:34.36 | Gwildor | nothing i really carea bout.. |
| 18:34.52 | Gwildor | unless ill get WAY better performance.. |
| 18:34.56 | Gwildor | i dont game or anything |
| 18:36.00 | wasynyt | well usually having working 3d card means... that 2d works well too.. and so the performance and visual appearance is better.. especially when speaking on ati cards |
| 18:36.36 | wasynyt | and if card does not work on its full potenttial it does not draw 2d well either |
| 18:37.35 | Gwildor | but...sometimes... enabling 3d slowss EVERYTHING down |
| 18:37.58 | wasynyt | hmm that is because those drivers are not working as they should |
| 18:38.02 | Gwildor | but, if you know of a how-to, or directions, please, point me to them |
| 18:38.07 | wasynyt | and thus 3d does not work |
| 18:39.37 | Gwildor | wasynyt IS the howto :D |
| 18:39.59 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:40.17 | wasynyt | well i have fought enough with xorg |
| 18:40.17 | Gwildor | sooooo....wanna help ;) |
| 18:40.22 | wasynyt | if i can |
| 18:40.52 | wasynyt | now i am planning a war against samba |
| 18:40.53 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:40.53 | Gwildor | ewww....this soda is DIET!! |
| 18:40.53 | Gwildor | haha |
| 18:41.16 | wasynyt | ! |
| 18:41.59 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 18:52.32 | amagus | ne1 know how to remember programs for system start? |
| 18:56.15 | wasynyt | hmm nope |
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| 19:26.16 | dats | hi |
| 19:27.01 | wasynyt | good evening dats |
| 19:28.47 | dats | does somebody know if there are problems with elair and compiling it from cvs ? |
| 19:29.18 | Gwildor | i dont use elair afaik |
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| 19:46.40 | PrinceAMD | YAH |
| 19:46.43 | PrinceAMD | I GOT MY DRIVE!!! |
| 19:46.58 | wasynyt | ? |
| 19:47.07 | Gwildor | he went to town to get a DVD burner |
| 19:47.18 | wasynyt | hmm k |
| 19:47.22 | wasynyt | so he got it now |
| 19:47.25 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:47.26 | Gwildor | fyeah |
| 19:48.37 | wasynyt | hmm |
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| 19:58.29 | roxville | wizard123, sinplomo what else do i need to add? |
| 19:58.32 | roxville | title Windows XP |
| 19:58.33 | roxville | rootnoverify (hd0,1) |
| 19:58.33 | roxville | chainloader +1 |
| 19:58.40 | roxville | it won't boot... |
| 19:58.52 | wasynyt | good eveing |
| 19:59.01 | wasynyt | *evening |
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| 19:59.54 | roxville | hey wasynyt :) |
| 19:59.57 | fo_o | hi. |
| 20:00.05 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:01.24 | fo_o | oh, I have just a small problem. For add a theme. In the menu, I have not the theme in question |
| 20:01.24 | fo_o | :d |
| 20:01.55 | fo_o | the theme is on ~/.e/e/themes/ |
| 20:02.00 | fo_o | :( |
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| 20:04.01 | roxville | fo_o, what theme are you trying to add? |
| 20:04.19 | fo_o | Cthulhain |
| 20:04.19 | roxville | where did you get it? |
| 20:04.22 | fo_o | http://www1.get-e.org/Themes/E17/ |
| 20:04.22 | roxville | from get-e.org? |
| 20:04.25 | roxville | ok |
| 20:04.27 | mathmanp | if you got the themes from get-e and use the standard elive e17 version, they are not compatible so the theme won't show up |
| 20:04.30 | roxville | that explains it |
| 20:04.43 | roxville | you are not running the correct version of e17 |
| 20:05.10 | roxville | install (for now) the old cthulhain via synaptic...from the elive repo |
| 20:05.18 | fo_o | ok |
| 20:05.26 | fo_o | I try, thanks :) |
| 20:05.30 | roxville | np :) |
| 20:05.50 | fo_o | and sorry for my bad english, I'm french |
| 20:06.20 | roxville | no problem, buddy |
| 20:06.22 | roxville | :) |
| 20:06.25 | wasynyt | no need to be, i dont write perfect english either |
| 20:06.30 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:06.44 | fo_o | ^^ |
| 20:08.42 | fo_o | ok, by synaptic i'ts good |
| 20:08.44 | fo_o | :) |
| 20:10.53 | roxville | :) |
| 20:11.00 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:11.43 | roxville | i must confess, i like the old cthulhain better... the new one looks cool on small screenies, but lacks a bit in real |
| 20:11.58 | roxville | ok, bbl |
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| 20:29.21 | PrinceAMD | PrinceAMD@Elive[~]$ cat /etc/elive-version |
| 20:29.21 | PrinceAMD | elive-codename: Revolution rl2+ |
| 20:29.21 | PrinceAMD | elive-version: 0.6.4 |
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| 20:29.45 | Elive_user85 | g |
| 20:30.32 | hermit2 | and what do you think of it :) |
| 20:31.25 | PrinceAMD | NICE!!! |
| 20:32.33 | hermit2 | indeed it is. I do think .037 version of e17 would be nicer :) |
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| 20:36.43 | PrinceAMD | true |
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| 21:35.32 | Elive_user96 | bjr y a t'il un francais ds la salle |
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| 22:24.29 | Gwildor | hmmm....change video driver...dist-upgrade....reboot... instant performance increase. |
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| 22:29.31 | Gwildor | WOA shit faster |
| 22:29.39 | Gwildor | LOTS faster |
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| 22:34.48 | Gwildor | english here....sorry |
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| 22:56.39 | amagus | sup gentz |
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| 23:00.10 | assasukasse | dum de dum |
| 23:01.22 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, sup? |
| 23:02.05 | assasukasse | hey PrinceAMD nothing much over here |
| 23:02.10 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 23:02.13 | assasukasse | my uptime now is 2d |
| 23:02.21 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 23:02.26 | assasukasse | and no significant crashes (beside mplayer) |
| 23:02.33 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 23:02.38 | PrinceAMD | i like kaffeine |
| 23:02.40 | assasukasse | is pretty solid |
| 23:02.56 | PrinceAMD | my logest uptime was 5days |
| 23:03.12 | PrinceAMD | most reboot was by me cus i wanted to test something |
| 23:03.50 | assasukasse | my longest uptime with ubuntu was 3 weeks |
| 23:04.01 | assasukasse | then it rebooted out of nothing for no apparent reason |
| 23:05.24 | assasukasse | u know PrinceAMD i was testing the new herd 5 on my laptop |
| 23:05.50 | assasukasse | and it pretty pissed me off...the network manager doesn't work so i can't connect to wifi...since accept only DHCP open no password.. |
| 23:05.52 | assasukasse | wtf is that |
| 23:06.18 | PrinceAMD | i dont know |
| 23:06.34 | PrinceAMD | what is herd 5? |
| 23:07.33 | assasukasse | feisty fawn beta 5 |
| 23:07.42 | PrinceAMD | oh |
| 23:07.48 | PrinceAMD | that's a ubuntu thing |
| 23:07.52 | PrinceAMD | i dont like ubuntu |
| 23:07.57 | PrinceAMD | and ubuntu dont like my pc |
| 23:09.39 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: i must say that ubuntu is really well made, many ppl use it, the help is VERY efficient, and is developed by a large team (so things come out so fast) however is so fucking slow |
| 23:10.01 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 23:10.11 | PrinceAMD | elive has one developer |
| 23:10.23 | PrinceAMD | me and some other guys here help out with little things |
| 23:10.33 | PrinceAMD | and together we got a kick ass os |
| 23:11.13 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: i totally agree, i worked with puppylinux, that has ONE developer, and is a great os too..however one developer has also flaws..first of all, what if thana decides to retire? :D |
| 23:12.31 | PrinceAMD | if so i'm sure GPLGeeK get linuxnit wizard123 me and many other will keep it up to date |
| 23:12.46 | assasukasse | :) |
| 23:12.58 | PrinceAMD | and thana cant QUIT , this is his job |
| 23:13.05 | assasukasse | nice to hear :D |
| 23:13.12 | PrinceAMD | he cant fire himself |
| 23:13.22 | assasukasse | we will nail him to a chair in front of the screen :D |
| 23:13.27 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 23:13.32 | PrinceAMD | sure we will |
| 23:14.33 | assasukasse | i built a package with checkinstall of gaim beta 6. if someone wants to give a look i can send...at me works fine. BTW how can i build a debian package w/o checkinstall??? |
| 23:16.03 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, wanna send me it? |
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| 23:18.03 | amagus | anyone know how to get the ewl books with doxygen |
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| 23:21.45 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: do u have a nice guide for creating a debian package that doesn't use checkinstall? |
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| 23:22.02 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, nope |
| 23:23.08 | assasukasse | Neonman: |
| 23:23.14 | Neonman | si |
| 23:23.25 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: have u ever built a debian package? |
| 23:23.28 | Neonman | assasukasse dime |
| 23:23.44 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, yea but that was like since last year, i kinda forget how to |
| 23:23.56 | assasukasse | did u solve your problem |
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| 23:24.31 | Neonman | assasukasse im sorry no inglish |
| 23:25.30 | assasukasse | neonman jo compriendo catalano |
| 23:25.54 | assasukasse | ma no hablo |
| 23:26.45 | Neonman | <assasukasse> fatal module ext3 jbd usbhim ??? what is that errors ?? |
| 23:27.12 | assasukasse | when did u get |
| 23:27.29 | PrinceAMD | i got a reiserfs partiton and under my user name i cant write on it |
| 23:27.39 | PrinceAMD | i have to mess with my fstab |
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| 23:33.07 | assasukasse | hello sinplomo |
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| 23:56.03 | SuperpeZ | gn8 all |
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| 23:56.43 | PrinceAMD | ouch |
| 23:58.20 | amagus | hey prince, do u program in ewl |
| 23:58.22 | amagus | with ewl* |
| 23:58.37 | PrinceAMD | amagus, no but i want to learn how to |
| 23:58.50 | PrinceAMD | it's a nice language |
| 23:59.04 | amagus | im trying to get the ewl docs with "sh gendoc" from the tutorial |
| 23:59.09 | amagus | nothing works |
| 23:59.10 | PrinceAMD | amagus, do u know how to program in that language |
| 23:59.14 | amagus | check this out |
| 23:59.21 | amagus | im trying :) |
| 23:59.22 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 23:59.32 | amagus | http://wiki.edevelop.org/index.php/EWL |
| 23:59.36 | amagus | read Documentation |
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| 23:59.52 | amagus | its not very clear |
