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| 00:05.54 | trog | Thybo: try closing all apps that use the sound system, before opening mplayer |
| 00:06.26 | Ouch | trog, usually none are open |
| 00:07.32 | trog | Ouch: you're using proxies to connect to freenode ? :) |
| 00:07.56 | Ouch | ouch is thybo |
| 00:07.56 | trog | about the sound ...well, it could be muted in mplayer |
| 00:07.57 | Ouch | lol |
| 00:08.09 | trog | i know...but the ip's are too different :) |
| 00:08.40 | trog | Ouch: try playing with the volumes in mplayer ("/" and "*" next to num lock) |
| 00:09.14 | Ouch | no but mplayer volume is at max |
| 00:09.19 | Ouch | i have a laptop btw |
| 00:09.20 | Ouch | so |
| 00:09.24 | trog | errrr |
| 00:09.25 | Ouch | forget the num lock hehe |
| 00:09.31 | Gwildor_ | well, / and * still work :P |
| 00:09.35 | trog | open alsamixer and see if pcm is not muted |
| 00:09.53 | trog | it shouldnt be, since xmms works .... |
| 00:09.59 | Ouch | nono its not i had checked |
| 00:10.08 | GPLGeek | OMFG 20 minutes on the hard setting on my eliptical machine |
| 00:10.17 | GPLGeek | im sweating like a pig |
| 00:10.21 | Gwildor_ | oh... HAHAHA |
| 00:10.25 | Gwildor_ | i HATE elipticals |
| 00:10.31 | GPLGeek | too hard for you? |
| 00:10.36 | trog | elipticals ? math ? |
| 00:10.36 | Gwildor_ | 'easy' is jsut as hard as 'hard' |
| 00:10.42 | Gwildor_ | no middle ground it seems |
| 00:10.48 | GPLGeek | exercise machine |
| 00:10.55 | Ouch | maths is like girls |
| 00:11.03 | Ouch | its when u got time to waist :;d |
| 00:11.07 | GPLGeek | that brings my total work out to 1 hour 30 minutes |
| 00:11.08 | GPLGeek | er... |
| 00:11.10 | GPLGeek | actually |
| 00:11.13 | GPLGeek | 1 hour 20 minutes |
| 00:11.13 | trog | Ouch: its nice when you understand it/them |
| 00:11.14 | trog | :) |
| 00:11.21 | Ouch | lol |
| 00:11.22 | GPLGeek | now its time for weight lifting |
| 00:11.24 | Ouch | oh i do |
| 00:11.30 | GPLGeek | I've been doing like 2-4 hours a day |
| 00:11.30 | Gwildor_ | GL GPLGeek |
| 00:11.33 | Ouch | i don't usually have problems with them ;) |
| 00:11.35 | Gwildor_ | im lazy! |
| 00:11.38 | trog | and since girls are impossible to understand...does it mean, they're not nice ? *hmmm* |
| 00:11.42 | GPLGeek | exercising doesnt help really |
| 00:11.43 | Gwildor_ | and...rather skinny |
| 00:11.46 | Ouch | lool |
| 00:11.49 | Ouch | *hmm* |
| 00:11.49 | Ouch | :p |
| 00:11.51 | Gwildor_ | 5'9" 155lbs |
| 00:12.08 | Ouch | weight lifting is like maths... |
| 00:12.09 | Ouch | lol |
| 00:12.13 | Gwildor_ | haha |
| 00:12.21 | Ouch | how can i kick myself |
| 00:12.37 | Ouch | coz im suposedly conecte |
| 00:12.38 | GPLGeek | honestly im a fat bastard, im eating the right stuff, and a lot less of it, and working out between 30 minutes a day on days i work hard (which is usually about 1.5 hours of heavy lifting then 6 hours of walking and lifting light stuff) |
| 00:12.56 | GPLGeek | and like 4 hours of pure cardio and then some weights on other days |
| 00:12.56 | trog | GPLGeek: drink ALOT of water... |
| 00:12.59 | GPLGeek | i am |
| 00:13.13 | Ouch | GPLGeek, don't u like runing? |
| 00:13.13 | trog | water is holy |
| 00:13.15 | GPLGeek | I actually drank too much water and lost vitamins in my system |
| 00:13.18 | Ouch | or team sports like basketball |
| 00:13.25 | Ouch | ? |
| 00:13.29 | GPLGeek | Ouch, I love it. One of my favorite things to do |
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| 00:13.39 | trog | GPLGeek: do drugs :) you'll lose some weight at the beginning |
| 00:13.42 | Ouch | i wannna get my Thybo baaackkk |
| 00:13.43 | GPLGeek | but I'm afflicted with hell's curse, athsma |
| 00:13.52 | Ouch | ah yeah |
| 00:13.54 | Gwildor_ | Ouch, /msg chanserv ghost Thybo password |
| 00:13.55 | Ouch | that doesn't help |
| 00:14.18 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, GL then.. |
| 00:14.29 | trog | i have 92 lbs ... |
| 00:14.33 | trog | i'm very skinny |
| 00:14.36 | Gwildor_ | DAMN |
| 00:14.37 | Ouch | lol |
| 00:14.38 | Gwildor_ | brb |
| 00:14.41 | GPLGeek | I need heavier weights |
| 00:14.44 | trog | eating once a day helps me keep in shape |
| 00:14.46 | Ouch | i don't know in lbs.... |
| 00:14.48 | GPLGeek | cardio does not help me, toning does not help me |
| 00:14.52 | trog | Ouch: multiply by 2 |
| 00:15.00 | Ouch | hmm |
| 00:15.01 | Ouch | well |
| 00:15.01 | Ouch | wow |
| 00:15.03 | GPLGeek | muscle mass, with big muscles is the only thing that ever trims me |
| 00:15.05 | Ouch | 130 lbs? |
| 00:15.12 | Ouch | that reasonable? |
| 00:15.13 | GPLGeek | I had found a diet that works though, the flu |
| 00:15.23 | trog | "cancer cures smoking" ... |
| 00:16.04 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, i have the flu now.. it sucks |
| 00:16.14 | GPLGeek | i wonder how much this 10 lb weight in each hand inbetween typing adds up |
| 00:16.21 | trog | i have to clean my house...until now, i filled 6 BIG packs of garbage, and the kitchen...total mess |
| 00:16.25 | trog | brb |
| 00:16.35 | Ouch | lol |
| 00:16.42 | Ouch | trog, good luck :) |
| 00:16.48 | GPLGeek | i have to go in the overgrown yard and scoop all the shit out so we can get our weeds out |
| 00:16.51 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, actually, i have to imagine it helps.. |
| 00:16.52 | trog | its the smell that made me do it |
| 00:16.54 | GPLGeek | i got 2 big dogs |
| 00:17.02 | Gwildor_ | O_O |
| 00:17.05 | Gwildor_ | AHVE fun! |
| 00:17.45 | GPLGeek | my index on food consumtion vs exercise sais im a slightly malnurished athlete. |
| 00:17.47 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 00:17.57 | Thybo | oh yeah im Thybo againnnnn |
| 00:18.06 | Gwildor_ | :D |
| 00:19.14 | GPLGeek | man learning programming basics is very easy, but actually programming is hard |
| 00:19.24 | GPLGeek | too many libraries you are supposed to memorize |
| 00:20.04 | GPLGeek | every one of my projects uses another set of libraries and if you program for debian you expansivly need to know python, c, c++ even some times, and a ton of other |
| 00:20.09 | GPLGeek | now ruby, which I admire |
| 00:20.38 | Gwildor_ | yeah, i could spit you a hello world... thats about it |
| 00:20.47 | GPLGeek | rbuy is in conflict |
| 00:20.53 | GPLGeek | er ruby |
| 00:20.57 | Gwildor_ | ? |
| 00:20.58 | Gwildor_ | huh |
| 00:20.59 | Gwildor_ | ? |
| 00:21.03 | GPLGeek | they are talking about how to focus the language |
| 00:21.24 | Gwildor_ | who is they? |
| 00:21.30 | GPLGeek | there are a few groups of people that want ruby to evolve in other ways |
| 00:21.40 | GPLGeek | i can get an article just a second |
| 00:21.46 | Gwildor_ | oooh.... ok |
| 00:21.49 | Gwildor_ | no need, its cool |
| 00:21.55 | Gwildor_ | never was interested in ruby.. |
| 00:22.00 | Gwildor_ | not really suree what it is even |
| 00:22.08 | Gwildor_ | language, i know.. |
| 00:22.11 | GPLGeek | Rails vs. Ruby Evolution, RubyPY, and a few others |
| 00:22.21 | Gwildor_ | but couldnt give you and example of something in ruby.. |
| 00:22.24 | Gwildor_ | could not |
| 00:22.46 | GPLGeek | its very simple to me because I know the basics of programming |
| 00:22.59 | GPLGeek | say a C++ programmer would be able to learn c quickly, but need to know a few more base things. |
| 00:23.04 | GPLGeek | but could easily look at php |
| 00:23.06 | GPLGeek | and edit it |
| 00:23.19 | Gwildor_ | oh.. ok |
| 00:23.23 | GPLGeek | or jump right into python with a syntax chart |
| 00:23.30 | Gwildor_ | yeah, i know a little html.. |
| 00:23.45 | Gwildor_ | but, have no problem editing a existing html doc..... css too |
| 00:23.46 | GPLGeek | but with each language trying to change the basic STL function names, and how they are used |
| 00:23.52 | GPLGeek | it would be nice to be a little more generic |
| 00:23.59 | GPLGeek | can't always be done language to language |
| 00:24.01 | Gwildor_ | php is a little different, but not too difficult, the DB stuff gets me still |
| 00:24.13 | GPLGeek | wtf the db stuff is the easy part |
| 00:24.21 | GPLGeek | its all the other bloated crap around it |
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| 00:24.59 | GPLGeek | my mysql implimentation was like 25 lines with comments for my school project and offered a fully working database for my classmates to use on the framwork. |
| 00:25.14 | GPLGeek | the postgre stuff I never got to |
| 00:25.20 | Gwildor_ | yeah...but... i dont know anything about it.. |
| 00:25.27 | Gwildor_ | ive looked at like 3 php source files |
| 00:25.28 | GPLGeek | they dropped me from the class because the teacher got mad at me |
| 00:25.33 | Gwildor_ | wtf |
| 00:25.42 | GPLGeek | lesson of the day, dont be smarter and dont correct a teacher |
| 00:26.01 | Gwildor_ | true that |
| 00:26.07 | GPLGeek | yet my shit was the only stuff that would run he called it a dirty hack |
| 00:26.11 | GPLGeek | it was not |
| 00:26.19 | GPLGeek | it was standard and structured |
| 00:26.34 | Gwildor_ | well, you didnt follow his lesson plan.. |
| 00:26.39 | Gwildor_ | it has to be 'wrong' |
| 00:26.50 | GPLGeek | what lesson plan |
| 00:26.57 | GPLGeek | the guy was a mess |
| 00:27.08 | Gwildor_ | HAHA |
| 00:27.13 | Gwildor_ | you know waht i mean |
| 00:27.24 | Gwildor_ | same reason we do bad in math classes... "didnt show your work" |
| 00:27.41 | GPLGeek | quote "read the book and make a project with multiple code documents" that was his guidelines |
| 00:27.45 | GPLGeek | it must |
| 00:27.50 | GPLGeek | -use database |
| 00:27.51 | Gwildor_ | not my fault it takes you six steps, and me only 2 |
| 00:27.54 | GPLGeek | -use php |
| 00:27.58 | GPLGeek | -do something |
| 00:27.59 | GPLGeek | that was is |
| 00:28.02 | GPLGeek | it |
| 00:28.06 | GPLGeek | that was it rather |
| 00:28.21 | Gwildor_ | alrighty.. |
| 00:31.29 | GPLGeek | lol 4th time ups passed my house |
| 00:31.33 | GPLGeek | im expecting package |
| 00:31.42 | GPLGeek | really away now |
| 00:31.53 | Gwildor_ | run out to the curb like it is ice cream truck :P :P |
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| 00:41.01 | DoggieDude | Is there anyplace I can get e17 modules for weather and calendar? |
| 00:41.22 | DoggieDude | The ones i got won't compile and adesklets won't work under e |
| 00:42.30 | DoggieDude | also, how do you add programs to the ibar? I created a new eap file and it shows up in entangle, but it won't show in the ibar after i added it and restarted e |
| 00:43.55 | Gwildor_ | how did you add it |
| 00:44.00 | Gwildor_ | apt-get install emodules |
| 00:44.03 | Gwildor_ | e-modules |
| 00:44.28 | DoggieDude | oh...i downloaded a tar package |
| 00:44.42 | DoggieDude | i forgot to put in the - searching in synaptic |
| 00:44.44 | DoggieDude | duh |
| 00:45.03 | DoggieDude | emodules turned up nada..but i bet that dash will change things |
| 00:46.31 | DoggieDude | ahhh....i snagged on something |
| 00:46.40 | DoggieDude | righteous |
| 00:46.59 | DoggieDude | now if I can just figure out why my icons aren't showing up in ibar |
| 00:48.34 | Gwildor_ | drag & drop... restart E |
| 00:48.44 | DoggieDude | did that |
| 00:49.17 | DoggieDude | i put the new eap file which shows on the left side into every list...engage, ibar, etc just to be sure |
| 00:49.36 | DoggieDude | restarted...then logged out and logged back in |
| 00:51.52 | Gwildor_ | open the app you want.. |
| 00:51.58 | Gwildor_ | grab the icon in the upper left croner.. |
| 00:52.03 | Gwildor_ | drag it to ibar.. |
| 00:52.05 | Gwildor_ | restart E |
| 00:52.18 | Gwildor_ | corner* |
| 00:52.27 | DoggieDude | oh....ok....not through entangle |
| 00:52.33 | Gwildor_ | right |
| 00:52.57 | GPLGeek | lol ups guy finally found the place |
| 00:53.06 | GPLGeek | first day on the job |
| 00:53.06 | Thybo | any reason why sound is not totaly synchro with image in mplayer? |
| 00:53.12 | DoggieDude | too bad weather doesn't have a forecast... |
| 00:53.20 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:53.29 | Gwildor_ | Thybo, i have that issue too... dont have an answer, though. |
| 00:53.34 | Thybo | :d |
| 00:53.36 | Gwildor_ | i blame it on my terrible specs |
| 00:53.37 | Thybo | ok |
| 00:53.43 | Thybo | that are? |
| 00:53.51 | Thybo | didn't get that issue before |
| 00:53.52 | Gwildor_ | 800mhz 192mb ram, |
| 00:54.03 | DoggieDude | think of it as watching a japanese monster movie....the lips are always out of synch |
| 00:54.04 | Thybo | 1 gig ram 1,7 ghz centrino |
| 00:54.05 | Gwildor_ | tbh, again, i dont use mplayer often, so i jsut deal with it |
| 00:54.15 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:54.16 | Thybo | o |
| 00:54.17 | Thybo | ok |
| 00:54.22 | Gwildor_ | and if i do use it.. |
| 00:54.28 | Thybo | apt-get install vlc |
| 00:54.29 | Thybo | ;p |
| 00:54.29 | Gwildor_ | its USUALLY a podcast.. |
| 00:54.36 | Gwildor_ | so, video doesnt really matter |
| 00:54.38 | Thybo | french material just beats it hehe |
| 00:54.41 | DoggieDude | renjeemoozoh....godzilla san! |
| 00:54.49 | Thybo | loool DoggieDude |
| 00:54.51 | Thybo | :p |
| 00:55.18 | Thybo | the french found the vlc solution |
| 00:55.21 | Thybo | go frogiiies (h) |
| 00:55.23 | DoggieDude | domo arigato, mister roboto (i learned my japanese from styx) |
| 00:55.28 | Thybo | loool |
| 00:55.37 | Thybo | good luck for that :p |
| 00:55.55 | Gwildor_ | weird.. |
| 00:55.59 | Gwildor_ | oxine plays it fine.. |
| 00:56.03 | Thybo | yeah |
| 00:56.06 | Thybo | thats the weird thing |
| 00:56.09 | Thybo | but |
| 00:56.13 | Thybo | never found the way |
| 00:56.20 | Thybo | to play oxine in totaly full screen |
| 00:56.31 | Gwildor_ | hold on, ill tell ya |
| 00:56.36 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:56.45 | Thybo | u sure are motivated Gwildor_ :) |
| 00:57.31 | Gwildor_ | Thybo, right click on title bar... go down and select fullscreen |
| 00:57.40 | Gwildor_ | hmm, i might have a fix for mplayer...let me check |
| 00:58.45 | DoggieDude | hmmmm i can't get the window to resize so i can get to the ibar |
| 00:58.47 | DoggieDude | crap |
| 00:58.51 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:58.56 | Thybo | u have to resize it |
| 00:59.00 | Thybo | andd than in option |
| 00:59.01 | Thybo | put |
| 00:59.03 | Thybo | remember |
| 00:59.10 | Thybo | settings like size and place :) |
| 00:59.18 | DoggieDude | i'm trying..there is no resize option i can see |
| 01:00.25 | DoggieDude | can't get a piece of the edge to drag it down either |
| 01:00.50 | Gwildor_ | ok, i fixed it |
| 01:01.00 | Thybo | wo |
| 01:01.04 | Thybo | u impress me :p |
| 01:01.12 | Gwildor_ | rdy? |
| 01:01.16 | Thybo | set :) |
| 01:01.16 | Gwildor_ | launch mplayer, no movie |
| 01:01.29 | DoggieDude | oh well...i have a bunch of stuff to do and someplace to be in 2 hours.... |
| 01:01.40 | Thybo | ok |
| 01:01.40 | Gwildor_ | right click on movie window... go to preferences |
| 01:01.50 | Gwildor_ | go to 'misc' tab... |
| 01:01.50 | Thybo | yop |
| 01:02.04 | Thybo | uhu |
| 01:02.09 | Gwildor_ | towards the bottom... "AutoSync on/off" |
| 01:02.12 | Gwildor_ | turn it on.. |
| 01:02.16 | Gwildor_ | i left mine at 0 |
| 01:02.17 | Thybo | yup |
| 01:02.21 | Gwildor_ | hit ok |
| 01:02.24 | Thybo | ok |
| 01:02.24 | Gwildor_ | restart mplayer |
| 01:02.24 | Thybo | :p |
| 01:02.27 | Gwildor_ | should be fine |
| 01:02.29 | Gwildor_ | if not.. |
| 01:02.34 | Gwildor_ | adjsut that 0.. |
| 01:02.38 | Gwildor_ | mine is perfect at 0 |
| 01:02.39 | DoggieDude | i'll probably find a way to resize this stupid window when i am not so stressed....thanks much for the info...emods are running and i am sure i can iron out this last quirk..thanks again |
| 01:02.39 | Thybo | do u get an error message each time u close it too? |
| 01:02.50 | Thybo | :p |
| 01:02.54 | Gwildor_ | yeah, ill fixx that later :P |
| 01:02.55 | trog | its easy |
| 01:02.57 | Thybo | way to go DoggieDude :) |
| 01:03.01 | Gwildor_ | ive gotta go...laters |
| 01:03.02 | Thybo | lol |
| 01:03.05 | Thybo | well u tell me |
| 01:03.06 | Gwildor_ | Thybo, try that real quickk... |
| 01:03.08 | trog | hold ALT, and drag the window (with the left click pressed) |
| 01:03.10 | Thybo | coz its like errors |
| 01:03.23 | Thybo | u cant use the remote control |
| 01:03.23 | trog | 1 second too late .... |
| 01:03.23 | Thybo | lol |
| 01:03.43 | Gwildor_ | Thybo, ? |
| 01:03.50 | Thybo | yeah? |
| 01:03.54 | Thybo | i lost mplayer sound lol |
| 01:03.57 | Thybo | damn machine |
| 01:04.01 | Gwildor_ | oh, shit |
| 01:04.10 | Gwildor_ | ive gotta go, i can hlep you maroe later, if you need it... my bad |
| 01:04.15 | Gwildor_ | LATERS |
| 01:04.17 | Thybo | lol |
| 01:04.24 | Thybo | Gwildor_, thanks a lot |
| 01:04.28 | Thybo | see you :):):) |
| 01:04.35 | trog | gnite Gwildor |
| 01:06.05 | Thybo | oups: run vlc as root |
| 01:06.06 | Thybo | hehe |
| 01:09.43 | Thybo | wooow |
| 01:09.50 | Thybo | what iz it GPLGeek |
| 01:09.51 | Thybo | ?:p |
| 01:10.01 | GPLGeek | wireles mouse that uses laser instead of led |
| 01:10.15 | GPLGeek | ultra high accuracy in bad environments |
| 01:24.01 | LinuxNIT | so can linux not play m4a? |
| 01:24.39 | LinuxNIT | xmmms and rythmbox dont seem to support it and i dont see any players in apt... iknow faad can decode it |
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| 01:29.18 | THEoracle | hello all |
| 01:31.51 | trog | hi |
| 01:32.04 | LinuxNIT | hello |
| 01:39.05 | GPLGeek | im back |
| 01:39.28 | GPLGeek | dinner: cuecumber and tomato sandwich on whole grain |
| 01:42.55 | mathmanp | LinuxNIT: I read somewhere that mplayer can do m4a when compiled with support for it, don't know if it's that way in elive, have no m4a files |
| 01:43.17 | LinuxNIT | well i had some.... i just converted them all to mp3 |
| 01:43.21 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 01:43.23 | LinuxNIT | all gone now |
| 01:43.39 | LinuxNIT | ah well... mp3 is more compatible anyway |
| 01:44.39 | TuxMeister | hey there! |
| 01:44.43 | TuxMeister | howdy LinuxNIT |
| 01:44.47 | LinuxNIT | howdy |
| 01:44.57 | TuxMeister | sup GPLGeek |
| 01:45.16 | TuxMeister | has anyone here tryed Elisa with lirc? |
| 01:45.17 | Thybo | hahaha very funny |
| 01:45.23 | Thybo | vlc with wmp 11 skin in elive |
| 01:45.24 | Thybo | hahaha |
| 01:45.30 | GPLGeek | howdy |
| 01:45.35 | Thybo | hey GPLGeek :) |
| 01:45.42 | TuxMeister | sup THEoracle |
| 01:45.46 | TuxMeister | sup Thybo |
| 01:45.55 | GPLGeek | i hear for protected formats people wine winamp |
| 01:46.04 | Thybo | hey TuxMeister :) how are you? |
| 01:46.05 | THEoracle | hello hello TuxMeister |
| 01:46.20 | TuxMeister | fine, here... strangling with the kernel and lirc |
| 01:46.25 | TuxMeister | doesn't wanna build well |
| 01:46.58 | LinuxNIT | how about converting rmj? lol |
| 01:47.10 | Thybo | i have a m4a wait im lookin |
| 01:47.10 | Thybo | :p |
| 01:47.15 | Thybo | but not protected |
| 01:48.18 | Thybo | vlc reads m4a like hell:) |
| 01:48.28 | Thybo | without a probleù:) |
| 01:48.31 | Thybo | i think mplayer too |
| 01:48.38 | Thybo | but dont know i have some sound issues :) |
| 01:50.25 | LinuxNIT | ah well id prefer to listen to my music all in the same player anyway :D |
| 01:50.34 | LinuxNIT | but thanks... thats good info toknow |
| 01:52.12 | LinuxNIT | brb |
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| 02:59.15 | Thybo | ok i have an issue (one more i know) :p |
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| 03:00.59 | Thybo | anyone home? |
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| 03:09.45 | VJun | apt ubuntu |
| 03:09.46 | apt | somebody said ubuntu was a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. brown |
| 03:10.03 | VJun | apt debian |
| 03:10.05 | apt | from memory, debian is a free software GNU/Linux distribution. Debian 3.1 contains KDE 3.3.2 |
| 03:10.49 | VJun | apt GPLGeek |
| 03:11.09 | VJun | apt LinuxNIT |
| 03:11.11 | apt | linuxnit is, like, LinuxNIT, or a spell-hell and proud of it |
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| 03:14.45 | Thybo | LinuxNIT, heeelllllllllp!!! |
| 03:14.49 | Thybo | as usual i have a problem |
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| 03:16.17 | LinuxNIT | sup |
| 03:16.20 | Thybo | ok |
| 03:16.36 | Thybo | i love vlc right? coz im french so i think everythin thats french is the best |
| 03:16.43 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:16.44 | Thybo | so here i go apt-get vlc balbalba |
| 03:16.45 | Thybo | normal |
| 03:16.51 | Thybo | launch a video |
| 03:16.52 | LinuxNIT | damn french |
| 03:16.53 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 03:16.54 | Thybo | great |
| 03:16.57 | Thybo | bbut thann |
| 03:16.59 | Thybo | full screeen |
| 03:17.04 | Thybo | no problem either |
| 03:17.05 | Thybo | :p |
| 03:17.09 | Thybo | the problem is |
| 03:17.14 | Thybo | exiting full screen |
| 03:17.18 | Thybo | never gets to destop |
| 03:17.31 | Thybo | u can switch through aps with alt+tab |
| 03:17.43 | Thybo | do alt+esc for the thing wich i forgot the name |
| 03:18.17 | LinuxNIT | does the window stay open then? |
| 03:18.44 | LinuxNIT | for vlc |
| 03:18.46 | Thybo | what window? |
| 03:18.47 | Thybo | hm |
| 03:18.48 | Thybo | well |
| 03:19.03 | Thybo | it does u know what happens when u got a reaaaal slow comp and u move windows arround |
| 03:19.17 | Thybo | u have the window and like the "trace" of it |
| 03:19.21 | LinuxNIT | oh that shit |
| 03:19.22 | Thybo | but it stays black |
| 03:19.55 | Thybo | and never goes back to the desktop |
| 03:20.04 | Thybo | i have to reboot every time (noob) |
| 03:20.09 | Thybo | because vlc does not appear in the processes |
| 03:20.13 | Thybo | so killing it doesnt help |
| 03:21.56 | LinuxNIT | i dont know |
| 03:22.11 | LinuxNIT | i installed vlc and dont even get full screen :-/ |
| 03:22.31 | Thybo | no |
| 03:22.39 | Thybo | ? |
| 03:22.42 | Thybo | right click full screen doesnt work? |
| 03:22.58 | LinuxNIT | nope |
| 03:22.59 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:23.23 | Thybo | weird |
| 03:23.26 | Thybo | old hardware? |
| 03:23.47 | LinuxNIT | well not THAT old |
| 03:23.56 | LinuxNIT | i get full screen in other apps |
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| 03:24.05 | LinuxNIT | apparently the french apps dont work so well ;) |
| 03:24.13 | LinuxNIT | im just kidding ya Thybo |
| 03:24.16 | Ouch | lool |
| 03:24.27 | LinuxNIT | im teasing i dont know where the problem is |
| 03:24.34 | Ouch | either |
| 03:24.59 | Thybo | hmm |
| 03:30.50 | Thybo | the weird thing is that maximized |
| 03:30.56 | Thybo | doesnt do aything |
| 03:33.30 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 03:33.34 | PrinceAMD | good night all |
| 03:34.02 | LinuxNIT | good night |
| 03:34.03 | Thybo | good night PrinceAMD :p |
| 03:34.07 | Thybo | what a return you made |
| 03:34.12 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:34.14 | Thybo | the return of the PrinceAMD haha |
| 03:35.57 | Thybo | hmm |
| 03:38.29 | Thybo | look LinuxNIT :p |
| 03:38.37 | LinuxNIT | imageshack.us |
| 03:38.44 | LinuxNIT | my network is picky |
| 03:38.54 | Thybo | ah yeah i had forgoten |
| 03:40.24 | Thybo | http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screensz1.png |
| 03:42.53 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 03:42.56 | Thybo | lol |
| 03:42.58 | Thybo | see? |
| 03:43.05 | LinuxNIT | yeah i do |
| 03:43.10 | Thybo | and the windows keep piling up on top one of another |
| 03:43.13 | Thybo | what would U do?:p |
| 03:43.21 | LinuxNIT | restart e? |
| 03:43.31 | Thybo | how is that again? |
| 03:43.54 | Thybo | kill enlightement and it will autorestart? |
| 03:44.17 | LinuxNIT | no click the restart option in the menu |
| 03:44.27 | Thybo | no acess to the menu :) |
| 03:44.35 | LinuxNIT | e17? |
| 03:44.41 | Thybo | yes |
| 03:44.46 | LinuxNIT | can you open a terminal? |
| 03:45.02 | Thybo | yeai can run all pgms with alt+esc |
| 03:46.03 | Thybo | i know the "reboot" command works :) |
| 03:46.24 | LinuxNIT | enlightenment_remote |
| 03:46.33 | LinuxNIT | there is a restart option or something |
| 03:46.40 | Thybo | ERROR: Enlightenment_remote cannot set up the IPC socket. |
| 03:46.40 | Thybo | Maybe try the '-display :0.0' option? |
| 03:47.00 | LinuxNIT | well enlightenment_remote use to work |
| 03:47.01 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 03:47.10 | Thybo | lol |
| 03:47.12 | Thybo | don't worry |
| 03:47.17 | Thybo | i'll do it old and fashio |
| 03:47.20 | Thybo | @reboot :) |
| 03:47.25 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 03:47.34 | LinuxNIT | still there? |
| 03:47.39 | Thybo | yop |
| 03:47.40 | Thybo | :) |
| 03:47.44 | LinuxNIT | just restart x |
| 03:47.51 | LinuxNIT | you shouldnt have to reboot |
| 03:48.13 | Thybo | restart x... |
| 03:48.19 | Thybo | its control alt esc? |
| 03:48.20 | LinuxNIT | the Xserver |
| 03:48.29 | LinuxNIT | cntrl+alt+backspace |
| 03:48.30 | Thybo | yeah |
| 03:48.37 | Thybo | that restarts it? |
| 03:48.55 | LinuxNIT | yes |
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| 03:49.09 | LinuxNIT | work? |
| 03:49.20 | Thybo | yop |
| 03:49.26 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 03:49.38 | Thybo | but im gonna fing a way to do this clean |
| 03:49.39 | Thybo | lol |
| 03:49.48 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:49.59 | LinuxNIT | there is a key binding to restart e |
| 03:50.00 | LinuxNIT | try that |
| 03:50.08 | LinuxNIT | look in the keybindings ares |
| 03:50.10 | LinuxNIT | *area |
| 03:50.14 | Thybo | ok :) |
| 03:50.17 | Thybo | thanks pop :p |
| 03:50.58 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:51.04 | LinuxNIT | pop?.... im not old |
| 03:51.13 | Thybo | hehe |
| 03:51.20 | Thybo | no but my linux spiritual father |
| 03:51.20 | Thybo | hahahaha |
| 03:51.25 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:54.45 | Thybo | :) :) |
| 03:54.51 | Thybo | but true ^^ |
| 03:54.56 | Thybo | i'm not far in linux |
| 03:55.01 | Thybo | but without you... haha |
| 03:55.05 | Thybo | i would still be in windows |
| 03:55.06 | Thybo | hjehehe |
| 03:55.17 | LinuxNIT | far is relative |
| 03:55.39 | Thybo | yeah |
| 03:55.49 | Thybo | let's say i'm near the edge |
| 03:57.11 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 03:57.22 | LinuxNIT | well im glad i could help you make the transition |
| 03:57.36 | Thybo | hehe |
| 03:57.52 | Thybo | i only stay on windows for dreamweaver actually |
| 04:00.13 | Thybo | ok... and games |
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| 04:16.55 | Thybo | LinuxNIT, u know where the elive icons are stored?.. the ones that i created.. coz i did one.. and than borred it but ieed it again... |
| 04:17.16 | LinuxNIT | eaps? |
| 04:18.46 | Thybo | hmm |
| 04:18.46 | Thybo | well |
| 04:18.47 | Thybo | no |
| 04:18.51 | Thybo | the png images |
| 04:18.56 | Thybo | do they exist somwhere? |
| 04:18.56 | LinuxNIT | did he use the image in an eap? |
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| 04:19.06 | LinuxNIT | cause the eaps have the image built into them |
| 04:19.14 | Thybo | hmm |
| 04:19.18 | Thybo | any way to get to it? |
| 04:19.31 | LinuxNIT | edje_decc name.eap |
| 04:20.17 | Thybo | with path? |
| 04:20.23 | LinuxNIT | yes |
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| 04:21.56 | Thybo | hmm it gives me the space where the image was before i bored it... |
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| 04:23.38 | jbwan | just wanted to drop in and say great job on the distro |
| 04:25.20 | LinuxNIT | he would appreciate your compliment ;) |
| 04:26.28 | GPLGeek | The whole community has done some amazing things |
| 04:26.43 | GPLGeek | people actually stopped and learned how to code, or make graphics, or whatever |
| 04:26.46 | GPLGeek | and started helping |
| 04:26.57 | LinuxNIT | this is true |
| 04:27.13 | jbwan | I'm impressed. I just got a live cd yesterday from a colleague in a training class |
| 04:27.38 | jbwan | Can't install it yet and it's lacking some hardware support that I need, but I've blogged positively! |
| 04:27.53 | GPLGeek | well |
| 04:28.00 | GPLGeek | tell me WHAT HARDWARE!!! |
| 04:28.13 | GPLGeek | give me lspci info, and if possible driver links |
| 04:28.17 | GPLGeek | gplgeek at gmail dot com |
| 04:28.25 | GPLGeek | or use the bugreporting system |
| 04:28.45 | jbwan | aye aye |
| 04:35.29 | jbwan | GPLGeek: I've installed hardinfo but I'm a bit new to the whole bug reporting thing |
| 04:35.35 | jbwan | is there a specific format you want the info in? |
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| 04:36.13 | GPLGeek | http://bugs.elivecd.org/ |
| 04:36.16 | GPLGeek | just readable is fine |
| 04:36.25 | GPLGeek | as long as I can tell what your talking about |
| 04:36.44 | Thybo | lol |
| 04:36.52 | Thybo | this isn't as easy as it seems:) |
| 04:37.00 | jbwan | lol ok, I can make it human readable |
| 04:40.14 | GPLGeek | well i can read mostly anything |
| 04:40.24 | GPLGeek | whatever is easy for you |
| 04:40.59 | Thybo | put it in russian (hin hin hin) |
| 04:41.08 | GPLGeek | oh I can't read that |
| 04:41.24 | GPLGeek | English or Spanish |
| 04:41.31 | Thybo | :d |
| 04:41.38 | Thybo | see, see?:p |
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| 04:43.02 | LinuxNIT | well look who decided to drop in |
| 04:43.25 | revdjenk | hee |
| 04:43.28 | Thybo | its revdjenk !!! |
| 04:43.38 | revdjenk | yep! |
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| 04:43.59 | LinuxNIT | hows it going rev? |
| 04:44.02 | GPLGeek | revdjenk, hi |
| 04:44.03 | revdjenk | so what's new |
| 04:44.07 | revdjenk | hey GPLGeek |
| 04:44.46 | LinuxNIT | not much... working on school and a little here and there on my apps(to keep me out of trouble basicaly) |
| 04:44.51 | revdjenk | how is school LinuxNIT ? |
| 04:44.55 | LinuxNIT | not bad |
| 04:44.58 | LinuxNIT | mostly good |
| 04:45.03 | revdjenk | :) |
| 04:45.26 | revdjenk | and GPLGeek, did you ever find your date? |
| 04:45.39 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 04:45.52 | GPLGeek | we dont talk about it |
| 04:45.56 | revdjenk | whoops |
| 04:46.01 | revdjenk | sorry :) |
| 04:46.27 | GPLGeek | ya, her cell phone died, and spiders had populated her van. |
| 04:46.36 | GPLGeek | she didnt quite want to go in it. |
| 04:46.44 | revdjenk | and no prince charming to bail her out! |
| 04:46.56 | GPLGeek | i drove down and picked her up |
| 04:47.05 | revdjenk | yay |
| 04:48.08 | revdjenk | how is everything in elive world? up another notch or two in distrowatch I see! |
| 04:50.02 | GPLGeek | we are doing well |
| 04:50.36 | GPLGeek | most people complain that it works too well, and its no fun not having anything to fix, so i tell them to use tests repo |
| 04:50.38 | revdjenk | yay |
| 04:51.26 | GPLGeek | I guess word got out that we are making a us-friendly version |
| 04:51.35 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 04:51.58 | revdjenk | yes, even told pales_rider about it and she showed up that night! |
| 04:52.12 | revdjenk | LinuxNIT, you missed her... |
| 04:52.59 | LinuxNIT | i guess i did |
| 04:53.51 | revdjenk | you and roxi were on the 'board' but we couldn't get a response |
| 04:54.08 | revdjenk | :( |
| 04:56.06 | LinuxNIT | i was probably listening to some professor drone on and on |
| 04:56.12 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 04:56.57 | Thybo | in what domain in particular? |
| 04:57.02 | Thybo | :p |
| 04:57.07 | revdjenk | I've been there...nothing worse than sitting in the afternoon sun, right after lunch, 'listening' to a monotone delivery |
| 04:57.11 | Thybo | girls: i don't tell that kinda stuff |
| 04:57.14 | revdjenk | this realm |
| 04:57.33 | revdjenk | only GPLGeek confesses that to me... |
| 04:57.37 | Thybo | lol |
| 04:57.39 | Thybo | he dares? |
| 04:58.04 | GPLGeek | do what now |
| 04:58.13 | revdjenk | we have an understanding |
| 04:58.20 | GPLGeek | yes |
| 04:58.24 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 04:58.35 | revdjenk | I just listen and he pours out... |
| 04:58.47 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, yeah but this guy turns the lights off so he can use his powerpoint |
| 04:58.54 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 04:58.54 | GPLGeek | its what friends do to assault eachother |
| 04:59.17 | revdjenk | is that thing animated? |
| 04:59.40 | revdjenk | I love the way you transition tim |
| 04:59.53 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 05:00.11 | jbwan | GPLGeek: does the current .ko path assist you at all for information? |
| 05:00.25 | GPLGeek | it might |
| 05:00.53 | GPLGeek | So is it a driver that fails, or is it a driver that does not exist? |
| 05:01.07 | jbwan | currently an ubuntu installation which is also Debian based... don't know if that helps. I'll include. |
| 05:01.44 | GPLGeek | actually ubuntu isn't really all that debian base it just uses the same package manager at this point |
| 05:01.51 | GPLGeek | not binary compatible and most the configs are changed. |
| 05:02.00 | revdjenk | thot I read they were coming back into the fold? |
| 05:02.10 | GPLGeek | ya they are trying to |
| 05:02.13 | jbwan | ah |
| 05:02.17 | GPLGeek | they were talking to me now that we are going us friendly |
| 05:02.28 | GPLGeek | saying by next year they will be binary compatible with etch and sid |
| 05:02.32 | GPLGeek | they think |
| 05:02.36 | GPLGeek | and to their credit |
| 05:02.50 | GPLGeek | they have pusehd a lot of code back to debian |
| 05:03.03 | revdjenk | and bring all the little mepis and freespire chicks with em? |
| 05:03.14 | GPLGeek | helped in casper, makelive, started helping patch deb packages where they didnt have to |
| 05:03.15 | jbwan | lol |
| 05:03.21 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, sounds like this could be good |
| 05:03.43 | GPLGeek | well they want to have debian certified for canonical support |
| 05:03.49 | jbwan | I'd love to see an elive implementation of ubuntu :) Though I'm sure that defeats the purpose you are on |
| 05:03.50 | GPLGeek | after all they make money either way |
| 05:04.07 | GPLGeek | jbwan, they are asking about that since we are making a us-friendly version |
| 05:04.32 | revdjenk | there is an enlightenment working on ubuntu...but don't know how well |
| 05:04.40 | revdjenk | still not elive |
| 05:04.43 | GPLGeek | revdjenk, they want elive though. |
| 05:04.54 | jbwan | enlightenment works on ubuntu |
| 05:05.00 | jbwan | just not customized |
| 05:05.10 | revdjenk | I do too.... |
| 05:05.10 | LinuxNIT | what exactly is us-friendly? |
| 05:05.12 | jbwan | and I don't have a clue how to customize it |
| 05:05.30 | revdjenk | no more 'war' sites |
| 05:05.43 | revdjenk | or anti-war sites |
| 05:05.45 | GPLGeek | a friend of the e17 package maintainer told me that they want to see about making a configuration utility like elpanel and offer it debian<>ubuntu compatible to draw in more developers, but they REALLY WANT ELPANEL. |
| 05:05.59 | LinuxNIT | oh the book marks thing? |
| 05:06.05 | revdjenk | yep |
| 05:06.13 | revdjenk | .6.5 has dropped it |
| 05:06.14 | LinuxNIT | i was thinking it was like an official term |
| 05:06.15 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:06.21 | revdjenk | it IS! |
| 05:06.31 | jbwan | GPLGeek: and how open are you to this consideration? |
| 05:06.58 | GPLGeek | jbwan, in the past we have had problems |
| 05:07.17 | jbwan | disagreements or integration issues? |
| 05:07.21 | jbwan | or both :) |
| 05:07.34 | revdjenk | but jbwan, getting anyone to try ubuntu, sometimes makes them try out elive eventually... |
| 05:07.43 | GPLGeek | For example |
| 05:08.08 | jbwan | revdjenk: I agree |
| 05:08.09 | GPLGeek | Ubuntu power users post elive repos and instructions on how to install e16/17 from them |
| 05:08.15 | GPLGeek | but we were not binary compatible |
| 05:08.46 | revdjenk | what does that do to their system? |
| 05:08.55 | GPLGeek | when it "didnt work" and crashed many ubuntu machines they accused us of being bad coders, or trying to mess them up |
| 05:08.58 | GPLGeek | well |
| 05:09.04 | revdjenk | ah |
| 05:09.18 | GPLGeek | debian binaries talk to the debian kernel through the binary libraries they are like an index |
| 05:09.25 | GPLGeek | something compiled on debian will work with debian |
| 05:09.31 | jbwan | I see |
| 05:09.32 | GPLGeek | but they have another lib with another index |
| 05:09.35 | GPLGeek | so |
| 05:09.42 | GPLGeek | it points to the wrong functions and just goes PANIC |
| 05:09.45 | jbwan | clash of the indexes |
| 05:09.49 | GPLGeek | wrong data types, segfaults, etc |
| 05:09.56 | GPLGeek | thats the simple way to say it |
| 05:10.23 | jbwan | Is the Ubuntu team willing to put out a joint statement with the Elive team denouncing the proponents of such things instead of accusatory stances? |
| 05:10.44 | GPLGeek | and then some ubuntu devs said a few stupid things calling us amatures and emailing me asking to stop crashing buntu computers. |
| 05:10.50 | jbwan | I'm a systems support engineer, not a coder :) |
| 05:10.51 | GPLGeek | like it was my fault they used our repos |
| 05:11.42 | jbwan | GPLGeek: and now they have seen the light? |
| 05:11.50 | GPLGeek | at one point there were like 5 buntu users here trying to get help and we were not told they were on buntu so of course our help did not help them. |
| 05:12.01 | GPLGeek | well for starters the posts are all deleted |
| 05:12.09 | revdjenk | oh, yes, I once installed pclinuxos using an elive /var /usr and /home directories.... it was weird seeing e16 and engage working in that rpm world!!! not well, but it was working hee hee |
| 05:12.26 | GPLGeek | and I was send a letter explaining how this mistake does not impliment the elive team in any way. |
| 05:12.48 | jbwan | of course |
| 05:13.21 | jbwan | I simply tried to hack the them into enlightenment on Ubuntu...didn't work, but I tried :) |
| 05:13.33 | revdjenk | I guess that ppl think linux is a linux is a linux...which is only partially or kernally true |
| 05:13.49 | jbwan | I couldn't take too many chances while on the road with my Linux laptop as my primary this week |
| 05:14.03 | revdjenk | why not jbwan ? |
| 05:14.05 | GPLGeek | ubuntu is only going "back to debian-like" because 1) its hard for them to maintain their own distro and they need a professional stable system and 2) They want to meet LSB standards and other standards so software/hardware_drivers will be supported from vendors |
| 05:14.06 | jbwan | otherwise I'd have hacked it till I crashed and just re-installed |
| 05:14.27 | jbwan | revdjenk: I'm in a training class on the road this week and don't have re-install CDs with me |
| 05:14.31 | GPLGeek | they want the "linux is linux" thing. |
| 05:14.36 | revdjenk | aha |
| 05:14.44 | GPLGeek | because somone can make a driver and use it on redhat, debian, buntu, slack |
| 05:14.44 | jbwan | but, linux has never just been linux |
| 05:14.45 | GPLGeek | etc |
| 05:14.53 | GPLGeek | but now they are TRYING |
| 05:15.05 | GPLGeek | LSB, Portland (to include edje??? rumors) |
| 05:15.08 | jbwan | distros unite! |
| 05:15.11 | GPLGeek | portland for example |
| 05:15.24 | revdjenk | I've seen that somewhere |
| 05:15.25 | GPLGeek | make end-user apps that work and look native in kde, gnome, x, etc |
| 05:16.01 | GPLGeek | and finally they want to add edje because they said "e17 is being used on production systems" and should be given support from the get go |
| 05:16.15 | jbwan | GPLGeek: it would help make in roads into the general population and push out the anti-linux naysayers on the basis of the distro fragmentation argument |
| 05:16.32 | GPLGeek | so native qt, edje, gtk all wrapped with a few lines of portland code |
| 05:16.37 | revdjenk | I think vista is helping make inroads to linux, too |
| 05:16.39 | jbwan | nice |
| 05:16.45 | jbwan | revdjenk: agreed |
| 05:16.50 | GPLGeek | which also means that we need to be ready |
| 05:16.56 | jbwan | I'm an MCSE Windows engineer by trade |
| 05:16.56 | GPLGeek | not just for the users |
| 05:16.57 | revdjenk | yep |
| 05:16.58 | jbwan | and Vista |
| 05:17.00 | jbwan | was the last straw |
| 05:17.09 | jbwan | I have one Windows machine left in my house |
| 05:17.15 | jbwan | because I have to |
| 05:17.15 | GPLGeek | for the poor souls who were stuck in a ms world who now need to learn linux stuff |
| 05:17.27 | GPLGeek | It's a big change for a lot of people |
| 05:17.29 | revdjenk | I saw the 15gig hd requirement and said... agh! |
| 05:17.43 | revdjenk | well, I did it and I am OLD |
| 05:17.43 | jbwan | of course if I get my way and get to move more into storage ... it won't matter and I'll request a move to linux permanently :) |
| 05:17.51 | GPLGeek | look at it this way though |
| 05:18.02 | GPLGeek | we can add layers to portland if a new standard comes out |
| 05:18.25 | GPLGeek | but things that were supposed to standardize in the past, gtk, qt, etc they failed because nobody wants "just one solution" |
| 05:18.39 | GPLGeek | all are innovative, but now all are supported too |
| 05:18.54 | revdjenk | some want a diff just to be diff! |
| 05:19.16 | jbwan | so what can we the lowly distro users do to help move unification forward? I would much rather spin my cycles on something like that than worry about drivers for Elive in the current state .. if I could wind up with the best of both worlds and help the unification of distros anyway |
| 05:19.19 | GPLGeek | and the software wrapper shows almost no loss in speed in tests, except in a few cases |
| 05:19.48 | revdjenk | and like I've discovered...kubuntu does suspend better than xp did, and pclinuxos does wifi connect better than xp did... |
| 05:20.11 | revdjenk | but there isn't a distro that does it all, yet |
| 05:20.11 | jbwan | splintering cat herding has been the long term downfall of GPL in general be it linux distros or groupware |
| 05:20.36 | GPLGeek | what I would like to see is dual licencing |
| 05:20.51 | revdjenk | between ...? |
| 05:20.54 | jbwan | how so? |
| 05:21.01 | GPLGeek | Maybe offer more code in GPL, MIT, and BSD licences |
| 05:21.05 | GPLGeek | so we can share better |
| 05:21.11 | revdjenk | ah... |
| 05:21.13 | GPLGeek | all 3 are great licences |
| 05:21.28 | GPLGeek | the kernel is mainly what gpl is for. at least at this point |
| 05:21.34 | GPLGeek | think about it |
| 05:21.37 | GPLGeek | all of the press releases |
| 05:22.07 | GPLGeek | gpl is to support the kernel. kernel kernl kernel, there is never any input from end user apps |
| 05:22.30 | GPLGeek | no headlines about any other blockers besides kernel |
| 05:24.17 | jbwan | so... again, what can we the user (meaning me a peon) do to help further the unification of Ubuntu / Elive ... for a start? Or is that the desired path? |
| 05:24.30 | jbwan | sounds like there's talk.. |
| 05:24.45 | jbwan | blogfest? :) |
| 05:25.59 | revdjenk | well, just talk to buntu users... and have them try elive... works sometimes... or gets them upset at the speed/beauty diff |
| 05:26.46 | jbwan | revdjenk: but is the answer really to drive people away from buntu... or work to get them to understand what the benefits of unification are? |
| 05:27.04 | GPLGeek | well unless your a developer |
| 05:27.10 | GPLGeek | we can't really DO anything |
| 05:27.18 | jbwan | dangit |
| 05:27.23 | jbwan | I feel so.....helpless... |
| 05:27.38 | GPLGeek | you could send emails to your hardware companies |
| 05:27.42 | GPLGeek | ask for linux support |
| 05:27.48 | revdjenk | not to drive them away from buntu, but to see there is/are other ways of doing linux...then they can ask questions of the buntu devs to maybe influence a move...thats what I was intending |
| 05:28.12 | jbwan | revdjenk: I understand now |
| 05:28.18 | revdjenk | yes, GPLGeek, I have done that with scanner/printer ppl |
| 05:28.27 | jbwan | GPLGeek: most of the hardware I work with supports linux |
| 05:28.39 | jbwan | I do have to test my printer, but it's an HP so I'm hopeful |
| 05:29.04 | revdjenk | and my averatec lappy techs need a BIG lesson! |
| 05:29.22 | revdjenk | they were MOST unfriendly |
| 05:29.52 | revdjenk | HP should be just fine...minolta-konica also provide linux drivers |
| 05:29.58 | revdjenk | and epson |
| 05:30.20 | jbwan | I run only dell or hp hardware |
| 05:30.37 | jbwan | except for storage... which is a bit different. Mostly custom *nix-ish kernels anyway |
| 05:30.39 | revdjenk | everything on the dell should be fine, |
| 05:30.59 | revdjenk | in the past few months, I haven |
| 05:31.06 | jbwan | I have an old Dimension 2400 that runs great with buntu |
| 05:31.12 | jbwan | I'm gonna throw elive on it when I get home |
| 05:31.15 | jbwan | to check it out |
| 05:31.24 | revdjenk | 't found anything that cant' be 'seen' by almost any distro |
| 05:31.27 | jbwan | hope it supports my 27" HD LCD TV |
| 05:31.37 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 05:33.04 | revdjenk | what is the resolution? 15,000x12000? |
| 05:33.05 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 05:33.05 | jbwan | lol |
| 05:33.05 | jbwan | close |
| 05:33.05 | revdjenk | are you a gamer, too |
| 05:33.05 | revdjenk | ? |
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| 05:33.06 | jbwan | I don't remember exactly what it's set to |
| 05:33.06 | jbwan | revdjenk: no not really. Just trying to conserve space and convinced my wife that it was a good investment |
| 05:33.06 | jbwan | PIP |
| 05:33.15 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 05:33.21 | jbwan | currently I use it as a KVM cause I run my HP on DVI->HD and my Ubuntu Dell on VGA |
| 05:33.51 | jbwan | and that still leaves me S-Video and YpBr |
| 05:33.54 | jbwan | oh and coax |
| 05:33.56 | jbwan | hehe |
| 05:34.02 | jbwan | I'm so spoiled |
| 05:34.11 | revdjenk | can you use PIP for that? have the vga screen in the PIP ? |
| 05:34.35 | revdjenk | with the hp in the big picture? |
| 05:34.49 | jbwan | Yeah... I can watch tv with PIP and be working on the computer in the big picture |
| 05:34.54 | jbwan | great for DVDs |
| 05:34.55 | revdjenk | gotcha |
| 05:34.58 | jbwan | takes the load off the system |
| 05:35.25 | GPLGeek | this laser mouse sucks bad |
| 05:35.33 | trog | how come ? |
| 05:35.33 | revdjenk | hahhhahaa |
| 05:35.39 | revdjenk | but it was FREE |
| 05:35.50 | trog | i want a free laser mouse |
| 05:35.51 | jbwan | laser mouses rock |
| 05:35.52 | trog | make that 2 |
| 05:36.19 | revdjenk | GPLGeek will send you one, evidently |
| 05:36.28 | revdjenk | make a bid |
| 05:36.38 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 05:36.39 | jbwan | I already have one |
| 05:36.40 | jbwan | :) |
| 05:36.53 | revdjenk | no, for trog |
| 05:37.21 | GPLGeek | you know when you move the mouse and then you run out of mouse pad |
| 05:37.28 | revdjenk | yep |
| 05:37.28 | GPLGeek | pick it up and it is still reading |
| 05:37.40 | trog | dont move it then ;) |
| 05:38.00 | revdjenk | spin it 90 degrees and bring it back!! |
| 05:38.06 | revdjenk | 180 |
| 05:38.22 | GPLGeek | so you cant pick it up and move it to stop it reading for a second |
| 05:38.23 | GPLGeek | it flips out |
| 05:38.28 | jbwan | dude, it's not tron...just a mouse |
| 05:38.45 | revdjenk | kik |
| 05:38.47 | revdjenk | lol |
| 05:39.47 | GPLGeek | and the laser is not center on the mouse |
| 05:39.48 | GPLGeek | i hate any optic that is not centered on the device. |
| 05:40.10 | revdjenk | hmmm, my eyes aren't centered either!! |
| 05:40.56 | revdjenk | there goes intelligent design!!! |
| 05:41.27 | revdjenk | :) |
| 05:41.44 | jbwan | you mean it wasn't all luck to begin with? |
| 05:41.51 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 05:42.12 | revdjenk | more Pluck!! |
| 05:42.32 | revdjenk | tireless effort |
| 05:42.36 | trog | anyone here playing nexuiz ? |
| 05:42.40 | jbwan | can't ... under strict doctors orders. I could hurt myself |
| 05:42.58 | revdjenk | what? pluck or nexuiz? |
| 05:43.04 | jbwan | pluck |
| 05:43.08 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 05:43.12 | jbwan | don't even know what nexulz is |
| 05:43.23 | revdjenk | mir auch |
| 05:43.25 | trog | jbwan: its THE fps game |
| 05:43.28 | revdjenk | mich auch |
| 05:43.39 | revdjenk | ah |
| 05:43.51 | revdjenk | was in last tuxmag... |
| 05:43.58 | LinuxNIT | q3 is THE fps game |
| 05:44.07 | trog | its very much alike q3 |
| 05:44.13 | jbwan | ah |
| 05:44.24 | LinuxNIT | ah ok |
| 05:44.24 | LinuxNIT | then its acceptable |
| 05:44.24 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:44.24 | trog | i'm good at it (nexuiz) becouse i'm good at q2 ...and a3 |
| 05:44.24 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, lol |
| 05:44.28 | trog | a3=q3 |
| 05:44.35 | jbwan | I'm a Windows engineer by trade remember? I'm a linux gamer idiot |
| 05:44.56 | LinuxNIT | trog, have you played warsow? |
| 05:44.59 | trog | nope |
| 05:45.00 | LinuxNIT | i think its in the elive repo |
| 05:45.01 | trog | should i ? |
| 05:45.09 | LinuxNIT | very similar to q3 as well |
| 05:45.12 | jbwan | this week has actually been good. I brought my personal linux laptop and work windows...well I forgot the power cord to my work laptop at home |
| 05:45.17 | jbwan | so I've been nothing but linux all week |
| 05:45.25 | revdjenk | yay |
| 05:45.30 | jbwan | :) |
| 05:45.37 | LinuxNIT | i havent really played it cause i sold my pc that could at least attempt to game |
| 05:46.10 | trog | i dont wanna screw up this debian more than it already is ....dont think i'll add more repos to it |
| 05:46.24 | revdjenk | anyone using compliz or beryl? how do they work? and do they help/hurt productivity? |
| 05:46.24 | jbwan | what is a repos? |
| 05:46.27 | jbwan | exactly |
| 05:46.50 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, beryl only really has one feature that is any usefule.. the rest are for looks |
| 05:46.53 | revdjenk | application/package pool |
| 05:46.55 | trog | revdjenk: i played with xgl when it came out |
| 05:47.02 | LinuxNIT | its kind of hardware picky as well |
| 05:47.05 | trog | its very usefull to impress your friends |
| 05:47.10 | trog | but its too annoying for me |
| 05:47.12 | revdjenk | thot so |
| 05:47.32 | trog | jbwan: repos ? colection of debian packages |
| 05:47.47 | revdjenk | elive does all that and works fast!! on smaller/older systems :) |
| 05:47.51 | trog | trog@golan[~]$ apt-cache showpkg e17|grep 037 |
| 05:47.51 | trog | 1:0.16.999.037-0cvs20070311 |
| 05:47.59 | LinuxNIT | trog, its already in the repo... you dont have to add a repo |
| 05:48.11 | trog | i dont have the elive repos in my repos list :) |
| 05:48.20 | LinuxNIT | oh... youre not on elive |
| 05:48.22 | LinuxNIT | i see |
| 05:48.22 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 05:48.33 | trog | i think it was elive at some time in the past |
| 05:48.38 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:48.42 | trog | dont know what it is now :) |
| 05:48.46 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:48.52 | revdjenk | wow! |
| 05:50.24 | trog | brb, need to score some frags |
| 05:51.33 | revdjenk | LinuxNIT, I think adamant1998 is in that same camp as trog...he has a collection of cd/dvd's that is very impressive! We had an install party at his house a few weeks ago!! |
| 05:51.57 | revdjenk | he is using foresight, right now |
| 05:52.06 | revdjenk | gnome!! yikes |
| 05:52.12 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 05:53.12 | revdjenk | and yet, no one wants my windows 1.03 5 1/2" floppy set... |
| 05:53.30 | LinuxNIT | you have windows 1.03? |
| 05:53.34 | revdjenk | yes |
| 05:53.40 | revdjenk | and the manuals |
| 05:53.40 | LinuxNIT | is it graphical? |
| 05:53.41 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:53.42 | LinuxNIT | jk |
| 05:53.58 | revdjenk | yes...actually |
| 05:54.00 | revdjenk | barely |
| 05:54.10 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:54.14 | revdjenk | it was slow, on the 8088!!! |
| 05:54.51 | revdjenk | the file manager still looks very familiar!!! |
| 05:55.30 | revdjenk | geos ran circles around it!!! even on the same machine |
| 05:55.31 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:55.51 | trog | what ??? |
| 05:55.55 | trog | i need that windows |
| 05:56.06 | LinuxNIT | does it crash revdjenk ? |
| 05:56.18 | trog | dos apps were more stable ... |
| 05:56.19 | revdjenk | it has been so long ago... |
| 05:56.25 | revdjenk | I am sure it did |
| 05:56.29 | LinuxNIT | probably no hardware support for current pcs |
| 05:56.35 | trog | dosbox! |
| 05:56.46 | revdjenk | and you need a 5 1/2 floppy!!! of course |
| 05:56.59 | trog | i still have a stack of those :) the drive also |
| 05:57.20 | revdjenk | wow... |
| 05:57.23 | trog | but i'm sure you can use the image in dosbox |
| 05:57.55 | revdjenk | you'd prolly have to slow your comp!! |
| 05:57.58 | trog | make an img file out of it, mount it as vfat with loop and one should be able to install it |
| 05:58.53 | revdjenk | I did move it to 31/4" floppies... but then crashed that set... |
| 05:59.53 | LinuxNIT | isnt it a 5 1/4 floppy? |
| 06:00.04 | revdjenk | yes, the originals |
| 06:00.27 | LinuxNIT | we used to have those..... loooong ago in a land far far away |
| 06:00.42 | revdjenk | oh, yes, 5 1/4 3 1/2 pooh |
| 06:00.54 | GPLGeek | I wonder why everyone is so affraid of earthquakes |
| 06:01.08 | revdjenk | i used cassettes with my coco |
| 06:01.47 | revdjenk | cant' be afraid of something you can't know when they will hit, eh, GPLGeek ? |
| 06:02.05 | GPLGeek | not really |
| 06:02.11 | revdjenk | but I'd take hurricanes any day ! |
| 06:02.28 | GPLGeek | I could get shot in the face by a m1 abrams tank tomorrow and never see it coming, doesn't mean I should spend my time fearing over it |
| 06:02.36 | revdjenk | yep |
| 06:02.52 | revdjenk | or stain your tie |
| 06:03.16 | GPLGeek | besides, California quakes though more common are less intense, and im on the best type of soil |
| 06:03.41 | revdjenk | where are you now? |
| 06:04.00 | revdjenk | I was in SF, and witnessed 1989 quake |
| 06:07.56 | GPLGeek | north bay |
| 06:08.53 | revdjenk | marin? |
| 06:09.09 | GPLGeek | near vallejo |
| 06:09.43 | revdjenk | ah, we lived in San Anselmo...my wife attended SF Theological Seminary there...I had a church in Oakland |
| 06:10.26 | GPLGeek | glad you made it out before they started shooting up churches |
| 06:11.41 | revdjenk | well, I actually hid under my office desk a few times... |
| 06:15.32 | revdjenk | you have to remember, Patty Hearst was hidden in a house across the street from the church I served, the Oakland Hell's Angels headquarters is a block away.... |
| 06:16.24 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 06:26.05 | GPLGeek | well i gotta go to bed |
| 06:26.07 | GPLGeek | or at least try |
| 06:29.30 | GPLGeek | Good night everyone |
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| 09:36.01 | assasukasse | morning all |
| 10:04.26 | PrinceAMD | morning all |
| 10:04.49 | assasukasse | hi PrinceAMD |
| 10:05.07 | PrinceAMD | assasukasse, good morning, hi |
| 10:06.50 | assasukasse | PrinceAMD: i am almost done with ubuntu for today then i will reboot on elive..must say that most of the stuffs are compatible between ubuntu and elive, i just copied most of my setting in home and they work on ubuntu |
| 10:07.46 | assasukasse | i reboot |
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| 10:11.01 | assasukasse | im back on elive |
| 10:11.02 | s-rider | hey princeamd |
| 10:11.30 | assasukasse | i must say that elive is so fast but this new ubuntu is really fast as well...a bit more memoryhungry.. |
| 10:11.57 | s-rider | is it out? fiesty fawn |
| 10:12.25 | assasukasse | im using beta herd 5 |
| 10:12.39 | assasukasse | no at now i am using elive :D |
| 10:12.41 | assasukasse | to be precise |
| 10:12.53 | s-rider | hehe |
| 10:13.09 | s-rider | btw, do you know how to add a keyboard layout switcher to elive? |
| 10:13.35 | assasukasse | s-rider: really not, i never had the need for something like that..do :) |
| 10:13.44 | assasukasse | acch is doh :D |
| 10:13.52 | s-rider | hehe okays |
| 10:15.17 | PrinceAMD | s-rider, hey |
| 10:15.25 | s-rider | whats up princeamd |
| 10:15.25 | PrinceAMD | s-rider, good morning |
| 10:15.39 | PrinceAMD | ah nothing much |
| 10:15.44 | PrinceAMD | brb |
| 10:16.11 | s-rider | kk |
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| 10:28.07 | assasukasse | seems that the new upgrade didn't bring many packages to try :) |
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| 12:22.31 | Tux3rz | hi |
| 12:24.26 | Tux3rz | i put command in ~/.e/e/applicarions/startup . but dont work?? |
| 12:37.30 | Tux3rz | how to get Elive CVS ?? |
| 12:39.10 | mathmanp | Tux3rz: you can add tests repositories and get a nearly up to date version of e17 |
| 12:39.53 | Tux3rz | can u give me that ? |
| 12:43.01 | mathmanp | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive tests OR deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive elive main efl elive tests |
| 12:43.34 | Tux3rz | hmm , it update for elive or E17 or all ? |
| 12:45.25 | mathmanp | there is some other stuff in it, but mainly e17 and efl |
| 12:46.08 | mathmanp | http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Tests_branch_repository |
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| 12:52.54 | Tux3rz | mathmanp, i now make apt-get update , it give me error W : EPG error : http://ftp.fr.debian.org testing Release |
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| 12:54.04 | mathmanp | no idea of that repo: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive elive main efl elive tests |
| 12:55.18 | mathmanp | and beware ubgrading will break your old configurations of e17 |
| 13:03.46 | Tux3rz | mathmanp, ok i put # of debain server , now disppaer the probelm |
| 13:04.03 | Tux3rz | ok , what do now , make apt-ger upgrade ?? |
| 13:06.06 | PrinceAMD | away |
| 13:06.25 | Tux3rz | PrinceAMD, welcome back :) |
| 13:06.49 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 13:07.19 | mathmanp | Tux3rz: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade if that fails apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:08.07 | PrinceAMD | Tux3rz, good morning |
| 13:08.15 | PrinceAMD | mathmanp, good morning |
| 13:08.39 | Tux3rz | it told me it want 69 MB update . waht do u think |
| 13:08.57 | Tux3rz | PrinceAMD, good morning :) |
| 13:09.44 | Tux3rz | ok i make Y |
| 13:09.51 | Tux3rz | now it download update |
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| 13:28.22 | mathmanp | PrinceAMD: good morning,too |
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| 14:45.06 | Darth_Vader | hello |
| 14:45.22 | Darth_Vader | i have elive 0.6.4 and my webcam doesnt works :/ |
| 14:46.04 | Darth_Vader | with my v2 genius works but with another one dont :/ |
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| 14:48.45 | Thybo | Darth_Vader, what camera is it? |
| 14:49.05 | Darth_Vader | z-star 305b |
| 14:53.35 | Tux3rz | mathmanp, ok now finish update |
| 14:53.44 | Tux3rz | make restart or not ? |
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| 14:54.54 | mathmanp | well if you did a comlete update i woul at least restart X |
| 14:55.13 | dartho_ | sorry |
| 14:55.22 | dartho_ | my conection fail |
| 14:55.32 | dartho_ | i am Darth_Vader :p |
| 14:55.41 | Thybo | loool |
| 14:55.43 | Tux3rz | but i dont make apt-get dist-upgrade ? make it or not ? |
| 14:55.48 | Thybo | noooo u are supposed to say |
| 14:55.53 | Thybo | "i am your father" |
| 14:55.59 | dartho_ | juass |
| 14:56.06 | dartho_ | i am your father! |
| 14:56.10 | Thybo | ajajaja |
| 14:56.19 | dartho_ | xD |
| 14:56.30 | dartho_ | well, there is any solution for my pc ??? |
| 14:56.43 | Thybo | your camera problem? |
| 14:57.25 | Tux3rz | mathmanp, i do apt-get upgrade only , now finsih , make now apt-get disr-upgrade or not ? |
| 14:57.33 | dartho_ | Thybo, yes |
| 14:59.20 | Thybo | Darth_Vader, have you checked its compatibility? |
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| 15:00.11 | Tux3rz | hmm ok now upgrading i make apt-get dist-upgrade , it want 30 MB hehe ,,, i will back if it finish |
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| 15:03.39 | dartho__ | Thybo, sorry |
| 15:03.51 | dartho__ | my :/ damn conection get down again |
| 15:06.30 | DaRtHo | :( |
| 15:06.51 | Thybo | DaRtHo, don't worry :) |
| 15:07.02 | DaRtHo | ^^ |
| 15:07.40 | Thybo | DaRtHo, be happy :d |
| 15:09.15 | DaRtHo | Thybo, so, how can i fix my trouble ? |
| 15:11.36 | Thybo | DaRtHo, did you check the compatibilities list? |
| 15:11.42 | Thybo | maybe its incompatible |
| 15:11.50 | DaRtHo | no, it is |
| 15:14.41 | DaRtHo | Vimicro 149 0x0ac8 0x305b Generic VC0305 Zc0302 Tas5130c Yes jpeg spca5xx/LE **** |
| 15:15.37 | mathmanp | Tux3rz. did it install the new e17 version ? |
| 15:17.24 | Thybo | DaRtHo, do u haev the spca5xxx codec? |
| 15:17.45 | DaRtHo | i dont know |
| 15:17.52 | DaRtHo | my other camera works |
| 15:18.02 | DaRtHo | but thiw one dont |
| 15:20.19 | LinuxNIT | DaRtHo, check in synaptic |
| 15:20.32 | DaRtHo | LinuxNIT, ok thx :D |
| 15:21.33 | DaRtHo | it isnt |
| 15:21.41 | DaRtHo | is just the source :/ |
| 15:21.59 | LinuxNIT | its in there |
| 15:22.07 | LinuxNIT | what kernel do you have? |
| 15:22.10 | LinuxNIT | uname -a |
| 15:22.28 | Detox_on_Laptop | hello all |
| 15:22.35 | LinuxNIT | hi Detox_on_Laptop |
| 15:22.48 | DaRtHo | Linux Death-Star 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:06:54 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:22.48 | Detox_on_Laptop | how ya be? |
| 15:23.10 | LinuxNIT | youre not using the elive kernel? |
| 15:23.18 | DaRtHo | LinuxNIT, i am from debian now |
| 15:23.23 | LinuxNIT | then youll have to compile the module from source |
| 15:23.38 | DaRtHo | :/ |
| 15:23.56 | Detox_on_Laptop | treading where to brave shudder |
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| 15:24.21 | LinuxNIT | if youre on debian not elive why did you say you have elive 0.6.4? |
| 15:24.30 | DaRtHo | LinuxNIT, because i have it |
| 15:24.41 | DaRtHo | i have elive 0.6.4 |
| 15:24.52 | Detox_on_Laptop | hey LinuxNIT, how is dist-upgrade working? am running kernel 2.6.15 |
| 15:25.06 | Detox_on_Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.06 | Detox_on_Laptop | Linux delllap 2.6.15.7 #2 Tue Dec 5 06:48:06 CET 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:25.06 | Detox_on_Laptop | detox@delllap[~]$ |
| 15:25.18 | LinuxNIT | DaRtHo, thats misleading to tell us you have 0.6.4... and that something isnt wroking when you arent even using 0.6.4 |
| 15:25.47 | DaRtHo | LinuxNIT, wait a minute and i come from my elive and u will see it.. |
| 15:25.50 | LinuxNIT | Detox_on_Laptop, i dunno i have done it in a while |
| 15:26.08 | Detox_on_Laptop | ok maybe I'll DL the new one and install over it |
| 15:26.26 | LinuxNIT | if youre gonna do that you might as well dist-upgrade |
| 15:26.46 | Detox_on_Laptop | would like to have the new ntfs readability |
| 15:27.01 | Detox_on_Laptop | since my laptop is duel boot with xp |
| 15:27.35 | Detox_on_Laptop | been a while so do apt-get upgrade && dist-upgrade right? |
| 15:27.47 | mathmanp | Detox_on_Laptop:you actually can install elive kernel and debian kernel side by side, I have both installed at the same partition |
| 15:28.09 | Detox_on_Laptop | na want to keep my elive clean |
| 15:28.31 | Detox_on_Laptop | is working nicley and really dont want to goober it up |
| 15:28.42 | Detox_on_Laptop | buy some chance |
| 15:30.43 | Detox_on_Laptop | if it were my desktop, I would be willing to play with it,,, but I have too much on this laptop and dont want to be forced to dumping if something goobers up |
| 15:31.06 | Detox_on_Laptop | and,,, my wifi is working (finally) |
| 15:31.44 | Detox_on_Laptop | would like the newer kernel |
| 15:31.57 | Detox_on_Laptop | and the ntfs readability |
| 15:32.13 | Thybo | well |
| 15:32.15 | Detox_on_Laptop | that the new ver has |
| 15:32.16 | Thybo | just do |
| 15:32.22 | Thybo | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:32.39 | Thybo | i tink i'tll do the trick:) |
| 15:32.39 | Detox_on_Laptop | am doing it now |
| 15:32.52 | Detox_on_Laptop | sitting in port city java,,, having a hunk of coffee |
| 15:32.54 | Detox_on_Laptop | yum yum |
| 15:33.06 | Detox_on_Laptop | watching the rain pour down |
| 15:33.31 | Detox_on_Laptop | talking to a guy who has a mac laptop and enjoys it |
| 15:33.41 | Detox_on_Laptop | is a great day |
| 15:34.17 | Detox_on_Laptop | and to top it off,,, being able to talk with the caliber of folks here,,,, ya can't get much better conversation |
| 15:34.51 | Detox_on_Laptop | your bead? |
| 15:35.22 | Detox_on_Laptop | big necklace i think |
| 15:35.27 | Detox_on_Laptop | or great acid |
| 15:35.56 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:36.01 | Detox_on_Laptop | ha |
| 15:36.02 | Thybo | bed stupid keyboard lol |
| 15:36.13 | Detox_on_Laptop | ya bad keybaord |
| 15:36.54 | Detox_on_Laptop | dist-upgrade did not give me the new kernel |
| 15:36.55 | Detox_on_Laptop | arrgggg |
| 15:37.13 | Detox_on_Laptop | oh well,,, slap a cd in and let it roll |
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| 15:37.34 | Thybo | how do u see your kernel? |
| 15:37.40 | Thybo | whats the command again? |
| 15:37.47 | Detox_on_Laptop | uname -a |
| 15:37.57 | Thybo | Linux Ibm 2.6.18-elive #2 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 6 00:41:56 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:38.00 | Thybo | hmm |
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| 15:38.11 | Detox_on_Laptop | smp huh? |
| 15:38.16 | Detox_on_Laptop | hey prince |
| 15:38.21 | Thybo | what is smp? |
| 15:38.23 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:38.27 | PrinceAMD | her] |
| 15:38.28 | PrinceAMD | hey |
| 15:38.33 | Thybo | hey PrinceAMD howya doin? |
| 15:38.38 | PrinceAMD | small micro processore |
| 15:38.46 | Thybo | ah |
| 15:38.47 | Thybo | weel |
| 15:38.50 | PrinceAMD | Thybo, i'm good |
| 15:38.51 | PrinceAMD | u |
| 15:38.51 | Thybo | its a small centrino |
| 15:38.54 | Thybo | :) |
| 15:39.02 | Thybo | fine, always when ure there haha |
| 15:39.04 | Detox_on_Laptop | viagra helps that? |
| 15:39.13 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:39.16 | Thybo | maybe for u |
| 15:39.16 | Thybo | :p |
| 15:39.27 | Detox_on_Laptop | never had the need myself |
| 15:39.36 | DaRtHo | Linux Elive 2.6.18-elive #2 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 6 00:41:56 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:39.41 | Thybo | i'll have you meet some girls don't worry |
| 15:39.58 | Detox_on_Laptop | no desire |
| 15:40.02 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:40.03 | Detox_on_Laptop | married for 30 years |
| 15:40.04 | Thybo | oh |
| 15:40.09 | Detox_on_Laptop | love my wife |
| 15:40.10 | Thybo | :D |
| 15:40.12 | Thybo | :) |
| 15:40.17 | Detox_on_Laptop | no need to hit the salad bar |
| 15:40.17 | Thybo | u are one happy man :) |
| 15:40.23 | Thybo | i envy you sort of |
| 15:40.31 | Detox_on_Laptop | when I get steak every day |
| 15:40.31 | DaRtHo | Thybo, my cam :/ is still not working :D |
| 15:40.39 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:40.54 | Thybo | DaRtHo.. u installed the codec stuf? |
| 15:40.55 | Thybo | :p |
| 15:41.07 | DaRtHo | i dont know xD |
| 15:41.22 | DaRtHo | but i am in amsn config and the image is black |
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| 15:42.53 | Detox_on_Laptop | for as much fun as a camera may be ,, I am still skeptical abut it's use |
| 15:43.18 | LinuxNIT | DaRtHo, is the module installed? |
| 15:43.32 | DaRtHo | which module? |
| 15:43.37 | Detox_on_Laptop | takes resources and serves really no practical purpose |
| 15:43.37 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:43.41 | LinuxNIT | the one you checke for when you were in debian |
| 15:44.22 | DaRtHo | gspca is installed |
| 15:44.26 | DaRtHo | yep |
| 15:44.36 | LinuxNIT | is that the one Thybo said you needed? |
| 15:44.43 | DaRtHo | my other cam works |
| 15:44.45 | DaRtHo | yes |
| 15:44.49 | LinuxNIT | forget the other cam |
| 15:44.51 | DaRtHo | but the image is still blak :/ |
| 15:44.53 | LinuxNIT | and no its not |
| 15:45.00 | LinuxNIT | he said you needed spca5xxx |
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| 15:45.18 | DaRtHo | oks |
| 15:46.01 | DaRtHo | i am installing it |
| 15:46.15 | LinuxNIT | the one for your kernel right:? |
| 15:46.20 | DaRtHo | yes |
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| 15:51.51 | DaRtHo | LinuxNIT, thx my cam now is working :P |
| 15:52.12 | LinuxNIT | thank Thybo... he knew what to fix on it ;) |
| 15:52.13 | DaRtHo | i had the module for debian and it was the uncorrect ^^ |
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| 15:52.33 | Thybo | ?? |
| 15:52.34 | Thybo | i what? |
| 15:52.45 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:52.47 | DaRtHo | LinuxNIT, the next elive stable when is gonna be ready ? |
| 15:52.49 | Thybo | what' d i do? |
| 15:52.51 | LinuxNIT | knew what he needed to install to get the cammera working |
| 15:52.57 | Thybo | actually |
| 15:53.04 | Thybo | i was watchin 24... lol |
| 15:53.09 | DaRtHo | :p |
| 15:53.12 | LinuxNIT | Thybo, you knew what he needed to install to get the cammera working.... i just made h im do it |
| 15:53.18 | LinuxNIT | you told him earlier |
| 15:53.22 | DaRtHo | Thybo, thx master :D |
| 15:53.28 | Thybo | hahahha |
| 15:53.31 | Thybo | :) |
| 15:53.35 | LinuxNIT | <Thybo> DaRtHo, do u haev the spca5xxx codec? |
| 15:53.36 | Thybo | someone callin me master |
| 15:53.44 | Thybo | tears come to my eyeeeesss |
| 15:53.45 | Thybo | :p |
| 15:53.47 | Thybo | ah yes :) |
| 15:53.53 | LinuxNIT | although it was module not codec... but who cares |
| 15:53.54 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 15:53.55 | Thybo | thats me hehe (h) |
| 15:53.56 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:53.59 | DaRtHo | yes |
| 15:54.10 | Thybo | nobody's perfect... except LinuxNIT :d |
| 15:54.18 | DaRtHo | i had the module for kernel but, as if it was the debian kernel on my elive xD |
| 15:54.20 | LinuxNIT | um no |
| 15:54.29 | LinuxNIT | im far from perfect |
| 15:54.32 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:54.43 | Thybo | its all relative |
| 15:54.44 | Thybo | but from myyy point of vue |
| 15:54.44 | LinuxNIT | the last perfect man got up and left over 2000 years ago |
| 15:54.45 | Thybo | u are ;) |
| 15:54.51 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:54.53 | Thybo | yeah :) |
| 15:54.54 | LinuxNIT | but he'll come back ;) |
| 15:55.06 | Thybo | sooner than anybody thinks |
| 15:55.11 | Thybo | and install linux on all computers |
| 15:55.11 | Thybo | hahaha |
| 15:55.16 | LinuxNIT | lol |
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| 15:56.47 | DaRtHo | jejeejej |
| 15:56.58 | Thybo | DaRtHo, de donde estas? |
| 15:57.38 | DaRtHo | Thybo, i am from colombia xD |
| 15:57.47 | Thybo | ??? |
| 15:57.47 | DaRtHo | now from my debian |
| 15:57.48 | DaRtHo | :p |
| 15:58.00 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:58.06 | DaRtHo | i am elivezed |
| 15:58.08 | Thybo | DaRtHo, where in colombia?:xD |
| 15:58.15 | DaRtHo | Thybo, bucaramanga xD |
| 15:58.19 | Thybo | jajaj |
| 15:58.25 | Thybo | adavine dond'estoy |
| 15:58.56 | Thybo | :p:p |
| 15:58.58 | DaRtHo | ni idea :p |
| 15:59.05 | Thybo | bogota jajajaa |
| 15:59.30 | Detox_on_Laptop | well folks ... gotta go... have a great day |
| 15:59.35 | DaRtHo | jajajajajaajajajajaajajjajajaj |
| 15:59.39 | Thybo | see you Detox_on_Laptop :d |
| 15:59.46 | DaRtHo | pense que era el unico colombian xD with elive :p |
| 15:59.50 | Thybo | jaja |
| 15:59.55 | Thybo | ud si es |
| 15:59.56 | Thybo | :p |
| 15:59.57 | Thybo | soy franes jajaj |
| 16:00.01 | DaRtHo | ¬¬ |
| 16:00.08 | DaRtHo | but what r u doing in la nevera ? |
| 16:00.09 | DaRtHo | xD |
| 16:00.10 | PrinceAMD | Linux Elive 2.6.20.2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Mar 11 19:34:32 GYT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 16:00.13 | PrinceAMD | :D |
| 16:00.23 | Thybo | heyy |
| 16:00.31 | Thybo | how come i only got 2.6.18? |
| 16:00.37 | Thybo | jaja |
| 16:00.38 | Thybo | nevera? |
| 16:00.41 | Thybo | es caliente aqui |
| 16:00.57 | DaRtHo | Thybo, yes of course ¬ |
| 16:01.07 | Thybo | pues en comparison a francia |
| 16:01.08 | Thybo | :p |
| 16:01.12 | DaRtHo | jajajaja |
| 16:01.14 | DaRtHo | eso si xD |
| 16:01.17 | Thybo | :) |
| 16:01.40 | DaRtHo | Thybo, bogota is so big :/ |
| 16:01.44 | Thybo | lol |
| 16:01.45 | DaRtHo | bucaramanga is smaller :p |
| 16:01.47 | Thybo | yeah it is :) |
| 16:01.51 | Thybo | eso dicen |
| 16:01.53 | DaRtHo | jajajaja |
| 16:01.59 | DaRtHo | and its hotter xD |
| 16:02.04 | DaRtHo | and the girls too :p |
| 16:02.10 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:02.14 | Thybo | eso me parece dificil |
| 16:02.15 | Thybo | ajajja |
| 16:02.22 | DaRtHo | jajajajaj |
| 16:02.47 | Thybo | :p |
| 16:04.39 | DaRtHo | Thybo, in bogota sells the elive cd ? |
| 16:04.40 | DaRtHo | :p |
| 16:04.51 | Thybo | lool |
| 16:04.52 | Thybo | no |
| 16:04.54 | DaRtHo | :/ |
| 16:05.04 | Thybo | its free why would they sell it?:) |
| 16:05.12 | Thybo | anyone can download it :) |
| 16:05.16 | DaRtHo | my brother is there and he bought debian but sarge :/ |
| 16:05.29 | DaRtHo | Thybo, yes but my conecction sucks xD i prefer to buy it :D |
| 16:05.33 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.37 | Thybo | what is it? |
| 16:05.40 | Thybo | (mine sucks too) |
| 16:05.43 | DaRtHo | :D |
| 16:05.51 | Thybo | what is your connection |
| 16:05.53 | Thybo | ? |
| 16:05.57 | Thybo | yo tengo 150k |
| 16:06.00 | DaRtHo | my conection is 256 kb but with 4 pcs connected |
| 16:06.03 | DaRtHo | jajajajaj |
| 16:06.06 | Thybo | haha |
| 16:06.09 | DaRtHo | eso yo tengo 250k |
| 16:06.17 | DaRtHo | pero con 4 equipos conectados xD |
| 16:06.44 | Thybo | apaga 3 |
| 16:06.45 | Thybo | :p |
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| 16:07.28 | DaRtHo | jajajaaj |
| 16:07.34 | Tux3rz | mathmanp, back |
| 16:08.29 | Tux3rz | mathmanp, it installed new version , but have it more problem , first , change and install new theme , it told me dont can open term how to install old theme |
| 16:08.46 | DaRtHo | O_O |
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| 16:14.09 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 16:15.28 | Thybo | heyy wasynyt :d how R uuu? |
| 16:16.35 | wasynyt | i am fine.. and you |
| 16:16.37 | wasynyt | ? |
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| 16:42.21 | Thybo | anyone having permanent connection errors to msn servers? |
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| 16:49.05 | Thybo | DaRtHo, ? |
| 16:49.14 | Thybo | estoy hablando con algien de bucaramanga en otro chanel :p |
| 16:49.33 | DaRtHo | jajaja |
| 16:49.38 | DaRtHo | Thybo, which channel ? |
| 16:49.43 | Thybo | #dsl |
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| 17:14.01 | DaRtHo | Thybo, el elive tiene ahora el ntfs-3g, como hago para crear una particion ntfs ? |
| 17:15.47 | Thybo | hmm |
| 17:15.49 | Thybo | ni idea |
| 17:15.55 | DaRtHo | :/ |
| 17:18.40 | Thybo | i have one |
| 17:18.42 | Thybo | but from xp |
| 17:18.43 | Thybo | :) |
| 17:18.49 | Thybo | hmm |
| 17:19.03 | Thybo | maybe with gparted |
| 17:19.05 | DaRtHo | but i want to make a ntfs partition |
| 17:19.08 | DaRtHo | no |
| 17:19.27 | DaRtHo | gparted doesnt allow that :/ because the ntfs-3g is installed |
| 17:19.58 | Thybo | ? |
| 17:19.58 | wasynyt | why do you want to make ntfs partition ? |
| 17:20.04 | Thybo | yeah why the hell? |
| 17:20.14 | wasynyt | does fat not make it |
| 17:20.27 | DaRtHo | Thybo, i need to install windows xD |
| 17:21.23 | Thybo | lool |
| 17:21.38 | DaRtHo | games are better thatn cedega xD |
| 17:21.42 | DaRtHo | than* |
| 17:22.30 | Thybo | yeah sure are |
| 17:22.36 | Thybo | hmm |
| 17:22.40 | Thybo | Dartho |
| 17:22.49 | Thybo | create a fat 32 partition |
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| 17:22.58 | Thybo | u will format it to ntfs when installin windows:) |
| 17:23.04 | DaRtHo | mmmm |
| 17:23.11 | Thybo | :) |
| 17:23.15 | DaRtHo | great idea thx :D |
| 17:23.19 | Thybo | or install xp to fat32 :) |
| 17:23.32 | Thybo | doesn't matter that much ;) |
| 17:23.49 | DaRtHo | fat is better than ntfs ? :p |
| 17:24.28 | Thybo | nope |
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| 17:24.40 | Thybo | ntfs faster suposedly |
| 17:24.42 | Thybo | but than |
| 17:24.48 | Thybo | i don't think u and i make the diff:) |
| 17:25.03 | Thybo | showaa time :) |
| 17:25.05 | Thybo | c u |
| 17:25.19 | DaRtHo | :p |
| 17:25.27 | DaRtHo | thx for all mr Thybo :D |
| 17:25.45 | Thybo | senor DaRtHo, es con muchissimo gusto :) |
| 17:26.14 | DaRtHo | ^^ |
| 17:26.30 | Thybo | u know how to dl i file for which u have direct link? |
| 17:26.48 | DaRtHo | no |
| 17:26.52 | Thybo | :( |
| 17:26.58 | DaRtHo | :/ |
| 17:29.06 | wasynyt | if i remember it wast wget.... |
| 17:29.07 | wasynyt | try man wget |
| 17:29.37 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:29.40 | wasynyt | thanks |
| 17:29.49 | wasynyt | apt give cookie to Thybo |
| 17:29.55 | apt | ACTION gives to Thybo to cookie |
| 17:29.56 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:29.59 | Thybo | lool |
| 17:30.03 | Thybo | apt hug wasynyt |
| 17:30.06 | apt | ACTION hugs wasynyt |
| 17:30.06 | Thybo | apt! |
| 17:30.09 | Thybo | :p |
| 17:30.25 | Thybo | finaly learned howto use the commands hehe |
| 17:31.41 | wasynyt | :P |
| 17:31.58 | wasynyt | apt thanks |
| 17:31.58 | apt | wasynyt: pas de quoi |
| 17:32.24 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:32.30 | Thybo | apt speaks french hahah |
| 17:33.35 | wasynyt | apt x en es thanks |
| 17:34.05 | wasynyt | apt x en sp thanks |
| 17:34.15 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:34.31 | wasynyt | apt x en fr good evening |
| 17:34.32 | Thybo | :p |
| 17:34.37 | Thybo | hahaha |
| 17:34.39 | Thybo | cooool |
| 17:34.41 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:34.43 | Thybo | im french |
| 17:34.43 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 17:34.45 | Thybo | france rocks haha |
| 17:34.47 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:34.55 | wasynyt | hmm dinno about that |
| 17:35.02 | Thybo | apt en fr off to my shower |
| 17:35.04 | Thybo | apt! |
| 17:35.08 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:35.10 | Thybo | hmm |
| 17:35.15 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:35.19 | wasynyt | Thybo, remember the x ! |
| 17:36.26 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.15 | Thybo | ah haha |
| 17:45.29 | Thybo | apt x en fr off to my shower |
| 17:45.32 | Thybo | apt! |
| 17:45.38 | Thybo | hahaha |
| 17:45.49 | Thybo | very funny translation |
| 17:45.49 | Thybo | :d |
| 17:50.19 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 17:53.23 | Thybo | anybody got msn ? |
| 17:53.38 | Thybo | im currently having biiig problems with it am i the only one? |
| 17:54.00 | Thybo | ahnope |
| 17:54.03 | Thybo | finaly workin:) |
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| 17:55.33 | Thybo | now i remember |
| 17:55.42 | Thybo | wasynyt is th mac freak :p |
| 17:56.09 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 17:56.10 | Thybo | yeahyeah |
| 17:56.22 | Thybo | the one crazy boutinstallin linux on macs lol |
| 17:56.53 | wasynyt_mac | huh never done that |
| 17:57.14 | Thybo | no? |
| 17:57.23 | Thybo | hmm who was it |
| 17:57.24 | Thybo | couple months ago |
| 17:57.26 | wasynyt_mac | nope and not going to |
| 17:57.30 | Thybo | someone talkin about elive on macs |
| 17:57.39 | wasynyt_mac | no idea |
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| 17:58.13 | wasynyt_mac | i cant understand what value that would bring |
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| 18:12.03 | Thybo | hehe |
| 18:12.05 | Thybo | wel |
| 18:12.08 | Thybo | old macs |
| 18:13.28 | wasynyt_mac | .. |
| 18:13.45 | wasynyt_mac | well that is a different thing |
| 18:14.05 | Thybo | hehe |
| 18:14.08 | Thybo | i gota go |
| 18:14.09 | Thybo | :) |
| 18:14.13 | Thybo | volleybal match |
| 18:14.14 | Thybo | c u:) |
| 18:14.23 | wasynyt_mac | see you later |
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| 18:49.05 | Detox_at_Home | hey folks here is a silly qu4estin ,,, on distrowatch ,, there are "podcasts" and the file is an ogg file. is that suppose to be video or jsut sound? |
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| 19:01.10 | dats | hi |
| 19:01.15 | Detox_at_Home | hi |
| 19:01.19 | Detox_at_Home | hey folks here is a silly qu4estin ,,, on distrowatch ,, there are "podcasts" and the file is an ogg file. is that suppose to be video or jsut sound? |
| 19:02.00 | dats | Detox_at_Home: mplayer gives to u the answer :P |
| 19:02.08 | dats | or vlc |
| 19:02.13 | dats | or xine |
| 19:02.19 | dats | or ... |
| 19:02.22 | Detox_at_Home | am using mplayer plugin for firefox |
| 19:02.25 | Detox_at_Home | only get sound |
| 19:02.41 | dats | then may be that it's only sound :S |
| 19:02.50 | Detox_at_Home | k |
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| 19:56.12 | Ruidoso_Silencio | hello? |
| 19:56.37 | Ruidoso_Silencio | I installed the last e17 version and some themes, but I can't use them. Could someone help me with this? |
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| 19:57.18 | dats | Ruidoso_Silencio: do you speak castellano ? |
| 19:57.46 | Ruidoso_Silencio | yeap |
| 19:57.52 | dats | mmmm |
| 19:57.55 | dats | okas |
| 19:58.07 | Ruidoso_Silencio | Me podés ayudar con eso? |
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| 20:33.58 | Ruidoso_Silencio | I can't use the themes that I've installed |
| 20:34.05 | Ruidoso_Silencio | Can someone help me? |
| 20:35.08 | hermit2 | If you installed the themes from get e .org they will not work with the version of e17 on the elive cd. |
| 20:38.40 | Ruidoso_Silencio | I installed the e17 version from the testing repos |
| 20:38.50 | Ruidoso_Silencio | and the themes from the repos too |
| 20:40.31 | Ruidoso_Silencio | the theme selector detects them |
| 20:40.37 | Ruidoso_Silencio | But I can use them |
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| 20:42.24 | Ruidoso_Silencio | The elive theme doesn't works to :-S |
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| 20:47.53 | LinuxNIT | Ruidoso_Silencio, if you install the e17 from the tests repo then the themes in synaptic dont work... they are outdated... go to get-e.org for more themes |
| 20:49.11 | Ruidoso_Silencio | ohhh ok thanx |
| 20:49.52 | LinuxNIT | no problem |
| 20:51.37 | Ruidoso_Silencio | And how to auto execute apps when e starts? |
| 20:52.12 | LinuxNIT | right click on the title bar and go to the remeber section |
| 20:52.49 | Ruidoso_Silencio | "start this program on login" |
| 20:52.53 | Ruidoso_Silencio | thanx A LOT |
| 20:53.11 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 20:53.12 | Ruidoso_Silencio | I coudn't make engage start automagicly :-þ |
| 20:53.16 | Ruidoso_Silencio | *couldn't |
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| 21:23.04 | Detox_at_Home | hmm i jsut did this and did not see a start when login |
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| 21:53.13 | GPLGeek | ahh bug hunting.... what a nice thing to get me into a good mood |
| 21:56.08 | Ruidoso_Silencio | hahahaha |
| 21:56.28 | Ruidoso_Silencio | GPLGeek, geek is not the word for you... |
| 22:02.14 | trog | why not ? :) |
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| 22:05.57 | Ruidoso_Silencio | a geek is very very small in comparison with him |
| 22:08.38 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 22:08.41 | GPLGeek | geek++ |
| 22:09.13 | Ruidoso_Silencio | hahahah |
| 22:09.19 | Ruidoso_Silencio | sort of :-þ |
| 22:09.32 | Ruidoso_Silencio | mmm |
| 22:09.44 | Ruidoso_Silencio | My engage is not working properly with the flame module loaded |
| 22:09.52 | Ruidoso_Silencio | I mean... its not transparent |
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| 22:22.34 | Detox_at_Home | so GPL ... on the autostart of progs ,, by rt clicking ,,, is that on the newer ver of elive? |
| 22:23.21 | Detox_at_Home | 2.6.15.7 #2 Tue Dec 5 06:48:06 CET 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 22:27.09 | LinuxNIT | Detox_at_Home: i think that the old version of e17 does that as well... i know that e16 does it |
| 22:32.02 | Ruidoso_Silencio | I need help with engage |
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| 22:32.13 | Ruidoso_Silencio | It has a black background |
| 22:32.27 | Ruidoso_Silencio | Its not transparent |
| 22:32.43 | Ruidoso_Silencio | Could it be because of the animated background?? |
| 22:32.48 | Ruidoso_Silencio | GPLGeek? |
| 22:33.17 | GPLGeek | im not sure how to reprogram engage |
| 22:33.27 | GPLGeek | and yes it could be from it being animated |
| 22:33.43 | GPLGeek | i doubt it uses TRUE transparency |
| 22:34.20 | LinuxNIT | Ruidoso_Silencio: are you using engage on e17? |
| 22:34.25 | Ruidoso_Silencio | yeap |
| 22:34.36 | LinuxNIT | how did you start the program? |
| 22:34.39 | Ruidoso_Silencio | (I want a tray) |
| 22:34.42 | GPLGeek | afk cleaning my kitchen |
| 22:34.44 | Ruidoso_Silencio | From the terminal |
| 22:34.49 | Ruidoso_Silencio | hahaha |
| 22:34.58 | LinuxNIT | ok you can set options when you start the program |
| 22:35.04 | LinuxNIT | engage --help |
| 22:35.14 | LinuxNIT | or look in elpanel at the defautl options |
| 22:35.18 | LinuxNIT | and use those |
| 22:36.19 | Ruidoso_Silencio | el panel?? where? |
| 22:36.49 | Ruidoso_Silencio | user conmfiguration? |
| 22:36.54 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 22:37.01 | LinuxNIT | probably under e16 |
| 22:37.22 | Ruidoso_Silencio | mm |
| 22:37.33 | Ruidoso_Silencio | thats on "look n feel" |
| 22:37.35 | Ruidoso_Silencio | :-þ |
| 22:37.42 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 22:37.51 | LinuxNIT | sorry |
| 22:37.52 | LinuxNIT | brb |
| 22:39.36 | Ruidoso_Silencio | yeah found it and fix it I think.. |
| 22:39.44 | Ruidoso_Silencio | brb |
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| 22:45.16 | Ruidoso_Silencio | "Segmentation Fault" |
| 22:45.18 | Ruidoso_Silencio | :-þ |
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| 22:49.55 | mathmanp | Ruidoso_Silencio: not sure if it works for you but try: engage --mode 0 (works here, but is cvs compiled) |
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| 23:37.15 | hermit2 | I want to add the forecast module to my system. It is discribed here. http://www0.get-e.org/Main/News/_articles/391.html |
| 23:37.57 | hermit2 | How do I go about doing that? What do I need? What kind of info should I look for? |
