| 00:02.44 | Thybo | LinuxNIT? |
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| 00:05.50 | LinuxNIT | Thybo, ? |
| 00:06.02 | Thybo | remember the acpid issue i had on upgrading |
| 00:06.04 | Thybo | ? |
| 00:06.14 | LinuxNIT | si |
| 00:06.16 | Thybo | well, i did a killall acpid and ran the upgrade and it went fine... |
| 00:06.30 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 00:07.31 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 00:07.38 | Thybo | :) |
| 00:27.32 | elmo40 | hey, have you seen this? a guy ranting about the release of Etch : http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS5673962628.html |
| 00:30.37 | Thybo | wow thats rough |
| 00:32.23 | elmo40 | ya, i know! |
| 00:33.15 | elmo40 | will Elive be altering the kernel a bit? |
| 00:33.16 | Thybo | nop |
| 00:33.58 | elmo40 | then same 'problems' will follow! |
| 00:34.34 | Thybo | ooo |
| 00:34.48 | hermit2 | isn't it the same kernel that was in elive 3 days ago? |
| 00:34.50 | Thybo | well |
| 00:34.58 | Thybo | u have to have 2 network interface & routing |
| 00:35.10 | Thybo | or not like the names of firefox and thunderbird |
| 00:35.12 | Thybo | personaly |
| 00:35.18 | Thybo | don't give a **** :) |
| 00:35.37 | Thybo | for a routing server debian 3.1 is suficien |
| 00:35.38 | Thybo | :) |
| 00:36.10 | elmo40 | evening Thanatermesis |
| 00:36.18 | *** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by ChanServ |
| 00:36.28 | Thanatermesis | thx elmo40 :) |
| 00:36.40 | hermit2 | well, i don't like the new names. but only have one isp and a name is really not enough reason to throw out the baby |
| 00:37.08 | Thybo | hello Thanatermesis :) |
| 00:37.34 | hermit2 | evenin Thanatermesis |
| 00:37.35 | *** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Welcome to Elive, feel free to ask questions || IMPORTANT: http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/58.html || MacBook users please join #elivemac || elivedev.org is providing services for Elive Developers (php, sql, ftp, etc... ask gplgeek for more info) || Elive 0.6.7 for tomorrow, with very improvements, please try it, special features on resolutions screens/laptops, we need to make it working good, next stable soon |
| 00:37.36 | Thybo | comment ca vA?;) |
| 00:37.44 | Thanatermesis | ça va bien Thybo :) |
| 00:37.48 | Thanatermesis | hi hermit2 |
| 00:38.17 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, to try .6.7 dist upgrade suficient? |
| 00:38.23 | Thanatermesis | nope |
| 00:38.23 | Thybo | coz i don't have a burner |
| 00:38.26 | Thanatermesis | http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 00:38.50 | elmo40 | many changes Thybo |
| 00:38.50 | Thybo | and thana u saw those complains about etch ? |
| 00:38.59 | elmo40 | i will email you a disc ;) |
| 00:39.14 | Thanatermesis | for example, with a dist-upgrade you don't have: enlightenment/hotkeys stuff (you need to use elive-skel), new packages added on the iso, dv camera support, gtkpod... |
| 00:39.15 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 00:39.22 | Thanatermesis | well, you only have.... |
| 00:39.35 | Thanatermesis | nothing :/ |
| 00:39.40 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 00:40.10 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, complain ? |
| 00:40.20 | Ezep | Thanatermesis: you are a elive developer? |
| 00:40.30 | Thanatermesis | Ezep, a little |
| 00:40.35 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, how come some of the .6.7 changelogs are already in my system? |
| 00:40.35 | hermit2 | lol... he is THE developer |
| 00:40.42 | *** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis |
| 00:40.42 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:41.01 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS5673962628.html |
| 00:41.02 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: a little? Nice ;) |
| 00:41.14 | hermit2 | amazes me sometimes how much people don't read. |
| 00:41.16 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 00:41.20 | Thybo | imagine what he'd do if it were a lot |
| 00:41.20 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:41.21 | hermit2 | :) |
| 00:41.23 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, mmh, what are you saying about the changelog ? |
| 00:41.30 | Thybo | well |
| 00:41.31 | Thybo | for example |
| 00:41.35 | Thybo | in .6.7 changelog |
| 00:41.43 | Thybo | there is the backspace things for internet pages |
| 00:41.47 | Thybo | it works here |
| 00:41.57 | elmo40 | Thybo: where you live? |
| 00:42.03 | Thybo | hehe |
| 00:42.06 | Thanatermesis | well, has worked very time ago in a old Elive version... 0.5 revolution (1) i think |
| 00:42.07 | Thybo | colombia :) |
| 00:42.23 | Thybo | i have .6.5 |
| 00:42.26 | Thanatermesis | but are disabled on firefox by default after this, now, are re-enabled on Elive |
| 00:42.56 | Thybo | if u are really motivated |
| 00:43.08 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, well, is posible to this conf are set on YOUR configurations (user configurations), but if you create a new user you can look to not works (well, if you install the new firefox from Elive repos, yes) |
| 00:43.11 | elmo40 | what is firefox? i see iceweasel... grrr. |
| 00:43.11 | Thybo | u make the blue arrows of the thinkpad works :) |
| 00:43.17 | Thybo | ah |
| 00:43.21 | Thybo | upgraded thats why |
| 00:43.22 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:43.30 | Thybo | but to kill process its killall firefox-bin hehe |
| 00:43.37 | Thanatermesis | anyways thats other problem for the users too... if made a instalaltion in upgrade mode (saving its firefox user configurations), those features maybe not are implemented |
| 00:43.42 | Thanatermesis | like others, and new bookmarks too |
| 00:43.59 | Thybo | yeah |
| 00:44.03 | Thanatermesis | is needed to remove the .mozilla dir of the home, but on that way you lost YOUR bookarks, and password remembers |
| 00:44.05 | elmo40 | but /home stays, right? |
| 00:44.12 | Thanatermesis | its all a big world :) |
| 00:44.14 | elmo40 | oh, i see |
| 00:44.30 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, iceweasel is the new name of firefox |
| 00:44.48 | Thanatermesis | i think to Elive can't rename it iceweasel... users KNOW firefox, no iceweasel |
| 00:44.59 | Thanatermesis | maybe Elive needs to rename a lot more of apps, more intuitive |
| 00:45.26 | Thanatermesis | like xpad -> notes, or similar things |
| 00:45.35 | Thybo | hm |
| 00:45.38 | Thybo | maybe |
| 00:45.47 | Thybo | but the drawings are explicit |
| 00:45.56 | Thanatermesis | a user to not knows those applications, just "don't try it" (for any reason) |
| 00:46.10 | Thanatermesis | but if read a thing to tells "what exactly is" (in some way), then maybe WANT to try it |
| 00:46.26 | Thybo | yeah maybe |
| 00:46.30 | Thybo | im the other type lol |
| 00:46.38 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: if you want more windoze users, then yes, alter the names. But, will that affect what repo we use? Will you become another fork of debian, and rename things? Makes life very complicted that way. |
| 00:46.39 | Thanatermesis | everybody i think... |
| 00:46.58 | Thanatermesis | i have tried macosx... not very in any case, and sincerely i have tried very little applications, just because i don't know for what is |
| 00:47.04 | Thanatermesis | maybe my problem is time :) |
| 00:47.19 | Thybo | im the type that wonders what the hell this name is and try it just to see |
| 00:47.20 | Thybo | for example this red button here |
| 00:47.22 | Thybo | that says |
| 00:47.27 | Thybo | autodestruction |
| 00:47.36 | Thybo | what the hell does autodestruction means? |
| 00:47.39 | Thybo | don't know, i try |
| 00:47.58 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, depends of what are you saying... i don't tell to rename "really" the application, jsut the name of the menus entry's, or engage names, for example |
| 00:48.09 | Thybo | ah yeah |
| 00:48.18 | Thybo | but thats like paperscrap work |
| 00:48.24 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, well, thats a good name for a red button lol |
| 00:48.33 | Thybo | :D |
| 00:49.01 | Thybo | oh by the way |
| 00:49.07 | Thybo | how do u add an icon to a menu entry |
| 00:50.10 | Thanatermesis | well... |
| 00:50.13 | Thanatermesis | on e17 ? |
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| 00:51.06 | Thanatermesis | keyra, make eaps for Thybo on its menu of e17 |
| 00:51.12 | Thanatermesis | keyra, cook ! |
| 00:51.32 | Thanatermesis | she looks like to need a massage... |
| 00:51.36 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:51.47 | Thybo | coz for icons inside folders no problem |
| 00:51.53 | Thybo | icons outside folders np |
| 00:51.57 | Thybo | but the folders themselves |
| 00:51.59 | Thybo | no clue |
| 00:52.07 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 00:52.12 | Thanatermesis | thats a little more hard |
| 00:52.15 | Thanatermesis | make a eap for a folder |
| 00:52.18 | Thanatermesis | write on it just the name |
| 00:52.27 | Thybo | hmm |
| 00:52.35 | Thybo | app name? |
| 00:52.36 | Thanatermesis | rename it .directory.eap and put it on this directory |
| 00:52.45 | Thanatermesis | add the directory to the .order of the parent dir |
| 00:52.48 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:52.49 | Thybo | ok |
| 00:52.54 | Thanatermesis | yes, app name |
| 00:52.56 | Thybo | nevermind |
| 00:53.00 | Thybo | it looks good this way |
| 00:53.01 | Thybo | but |
| 00:53.04 | Thybo | a good thing to put |
| 00:53.07 | Thybo | in elive |
| 00:53.09 | Thybo | would be |
| 00:53.20 | Thybo | enable sudo for all users for shutdown and reboot |
| 00:53.23 | Thybo | and put menu for those |
| 00:53.24 | Thanatermesis | anyways, just try "ls -la" on the favorites directory of .e, and you see other examples |
| 00:53.33 | Thybo | ok :) |
| 00:53.36 | Thanatermesis | sudo thing: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
| 00:53.44 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
| 00:53.57 | Thanatermesis | keyra, thanks, but what about show just the sudo one ? :P |
| 00:54.06 | keyra | Thanatermesis: welcome :) |
| 00:54.11 | Thybo | i did it with no problem thanks to LinuxNIT i think |
| 00:54.14 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: what i mean about renaming: If you rename in the menu, then the average user coming from windoze will understand what it is. The problem with that, when an experienced user wants to run a known app, will it still be the linux name? If you needed to kill it, how will the windoze user know what to kill? |
| 00:54.20 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.21 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.21 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.01 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, i mean just to reboot and shutdown without having to shutdown enlightment and than debian |
| 00:55.03 | Thybo | like |
| 00:55.08 | Thybo | shutdownn and u can go |
| 00:55.11 | Thybo | all at once |
| 00:55.52 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, true, but this is in some part relative... a normal (noob) user just needs to launch it, a good name its ok then... by other side, a "hacker" wants to made other things with, for example launch it from a terminal, kill it, know its name... etc... and in the same way, this user can be know very easly its name |
| 00:56.01 | Thanatermesis | like using apt-cache search, dpkg -L for list files... etc |
| 00:56.20 | hermit2 | that option is in e17 version.37 ... part of the menu; shutdown, reboot, log out.. etc |
| 00:56.26 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, this is enabled on new versions of e17ç |
| 00:56.31 | Thybo | ah :) |
| 00:56.32 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 00:56.40 | Thybo | hmm |
| 00:56.45 | Thybo | duno if i wanna change version |
| 00:56.45 | Thybo | hehe |
| 00:57.38 | Thybo | it messes up entrance doesn't it, |
| 00:57.38 | Thybo | ? |
| 00:57.42 | hermit2 | I like it |
| 00:57.59 | Thybo | what's different? |
| 00:58.06 | hermit2 | entrance works fine for me |
| 00:58.38 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: plus, there will only be a small list of name changes, notepad/scite? iceweasel/firefox? explorer/thunar? winamp/xmms? photoshop/cinepaint? alculator/xcalc? What more? |
| 00:58.39 | Thybo | but same version as old? |
| 00:58.47 | keyra | elmo40: Please, do not use scite, has a bug to BROKE the files, use gedit or cream instead if you don't know vim/emacs/joe... better explanation in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412270 |
| 00:58.50 | hermit2 | I think the menus are easier to use. adding things to the menu is easier. theming is a peice of cake |
| 00:59.03 | Gwildor_ | Thybo, you jsut have to change your entrance theme to "default" |
| 00:59.12 | Thybo | yeah |
| 00:59.15 | Gwildor_ | what is theme |
| 00:59.24 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, new e17 of tests repos of Elive is fine... but you need to configure it manually then |
| 00:59.26 | Thybo | but i made this real awsome CTU from 24 entrance theme |
| 00:59.31 | Thanatermesis | anways, everybody can switch back |
| 00:59.33 | Thybo | and i think it doesn't work on the new |
| 00:59.33 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:59.48 | elmo40 | Thybo: if you update to latest in the test repo on vodcopy.org, you will get e17.037 It will alter everything!! Your e will never be the same. But, I like it better ;) |
| 00:59.48 | Thanatermesis | removing efl-all package (to remove all ones), disabling tests repository, and reinstalling those uninstalled packages |
| 00:59.52 | Thanatermesis | maybe using elive-skel |
| 01:00.00 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 01:00.10 | Thanatermesis | keyra, scite SUCKS ! |
| 01:00.16 | Thanatermesis | thanks keyra :) |
| 01:00.24 | keyra | Thanatermesis: welcome :) |
| 01:00.33 | Thybo | apt! kill keyra |
| 01:00.34 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: dont like scite? |
| 01:00.43 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, |
| 01:00.51 | Thanatermesis | <keyra> elmo40: Please, do not use scite, has a bug to BROKE the files, use gedit or cream instead if you don't know vim/emacs/joe... better explanation in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412270 |
| 01:00.55 | hermit2 | it has bug and is not utf-8 compatable |
| 01:00.59 | keyra | Thanatermesis: You just need to send a email to submit@bugs.debian.org with: subject: "descriptive title about the bug", body of email: a first line similar to: Package: (name of package), second line: Version: (number of version of package), after this... the explanation of the bug described. Btw, is better to not say to you are on Elive, if you say this, the bug can be ignored (report it to debian if is a debian bug, of course) |
| 01:01.26 | Thanatermesis | keyra, you are active today, eh ? i could make you a massage after ;) |
| 01:01.29 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.34 | keyra | Thanatermesis: AWESOME, ass... this is the word ;) |
| 01:01.37 | Thanatermesis | LOL |
| 01:01.52 | elmo40 | lmao |
| 01:02.10 | Thanatermesis | keyra, you are a dangerous girl |
| 01:02.18 | keyra | Thanatermesis: read my nick: k-e-y-r-a |
| 01:02.22 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 01:02.47 | Thanatermesis | keyra, go to play fun with apt... |
| 01:02.49 | Thanatermesis | apt, e17 |
| 01:02.59 | apt | i heard e17 is IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16 |
| 01:03.07 | Thybo | apt! kill keyra |
| 01:03.08 | keyra | apt: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 01:03.10 | apt | ...but e17 is already something else... |
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| 01:03.19 | keyra | apt: do it! |
| 01:03.20 | apt | ACTION does it!. |
| 01:03.27 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra |
| 01:03.29 | apt | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged fluxelectron gun at keyra |
| 01:03.32 | Thybo | ahhh |
| 01:03.34 | Thybo | at last |
| 01:04.04 | elmo40 | ~time |
| 01:04.06 | apt | You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.04.10 1:04:06 GMT) |
| 01:04.06 | diabetik | elmo40: 03:00 AM, April 10, 2007 |
| 01:04.18 | elmo40 | who owns diabetik ? |
| 01:04.33 | Thanatermesis | idk |
| 01:04.37 | Thanatermesis | is a messager bot |
| 01:04.44 | elmo40 | on MANY channels! |
| 01:04.46 | Thanatermesis | \later tell elmo40 about ping me when is back |
| 01:04.47 | diabetik | Thanatermesis: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:04.59 | Thanatermesis | when you enter, diabetik talks you :) |
| 01:05.04 | Thanatermesis | on the channel |
| 01:05.16 | elmo40 | every channel? |
| 01:05.32 | Thanatermesis | if he look you on any channel, open you a private with the message |
| 01:05.43 | Thanatermesis | is like... memoserv.. but you don't need to know how to use memoserv for receive it lol |
| 01:05.52 | elmo40 | ahh, i see |
| 01:06.42 | Thybo | the .96? |
| 01:06.58 | Thanatermesis | 0.97 |
| 01:07.00 | Thanatermesis | well, dev |
| 01:07.02 | Ezep | wow ... |
| 01:08.57 | elmo40 | .096 worked fairly well for me, no webcam with 'regular' msn users though. They could not share with me, and I could not share with them. |
| 01:09.19 | Thybo | can u update through apt-get? |
| 01:09.19 | Thanatermesis | 0.97 is a lot better with webcams |
| 01:09.23 | Thanatermesis | and better look/interface |
| 01:09.25 | Thybo | or u got to get the package and all? |
| 01:09.30 | Thanatermesis | we need to thanks amsn to KaKaRoTo-KS :) |
| 01:09.31 | elmo40 | well, i hear the Simpsons.. gotta go! |
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| 01:16.56 | Thanatermesis | anybody want's to try this amsn version ? |
| 01:17.29 | hermit2 | I don't have a web cam. |
| 01:18.11 | hermit2 | so I never bothered to use amsn. just gaim. |
| 01:18.33 | Thanatermesis | try pebrot ;) |
| 01:18.43 | Thanatermesis | is the one to i use more... |
| 01:18.47 | Thanatermesis | is like a irssi |
| 01:18.56 | Thanatermesis | but very useful |
| 01:18.57 | hermit2 | works with msn? |
| 01:19.01 | Thanatermesis | yes, is for msn |
| 01:19.04 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install pebrot |
| 01:19.09 | Thanatermesis | you have a conf example on the package |
| 01:19.10 | hermit2 | ok |
| 01:19.11 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -L pebrot |
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| 01:21.47 | hermit2 | be back, have to braid my daughters hair. |
| 01:22.34 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es braid |
| 01:22.46 | Thanatermesis | oh, no.. that no... lol |
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| 01:31.54 | hermit2 | lol |
| 01:36.07 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, any way to put minimizing windows to iconize by default? |
| 01:38.24 | Thanatermesis | what ? |
| 01:38.31 | Thybo | u know i e16 |
| 01:38.36 | Thybo | when u minimize a windo |
| 01:38.40 | Thybo | it iconizes right? |
| 01:38.47 | Thybo | any way to default activate that here? |
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| 01:40.58 | Thanatermesis | ah... well, no, is not posible on e17 |
| 01:41.19 | Thanatermesis | mmh, activate what ? i don't understand |
| 01:41.29 | Thanatermesis | on your programs list ? (alt + tab) |
| 01:41.31 | Thybo | well |
| 01:41.39 | Thybo | i want a window to iconise |
| 01:41.49 | Thanatermesis | control + alt + i = iconize |
| 01:42.58 | Thybo | that just miniizes for me |
| 01:43.31 | Thybo | that puts it in the ibos |
| 01:43.32 | Thybo | ibox |
| 01:43.56 | Gwildor_ | Thybo, yeah, its the same 'action' as e16..... |
| 01:44.09 | Thybo | ? |
| 01:44.10 | Gwildor_ | but, the way e16 does it is not the same was as e17 |
| 01:44.20 | Thybo | so impossible to get that? |
| 01:44.35 | Gwildor_ | e16 shows the 'window' in icon mode.... e17 shows the 'icon' in icon mode |
| 01:44.40 | Gwildor_ | yeah, its impossible.. |
| 01:44.45 | Thybo | :'( |
| 01:44.51 | Thybo | but i did it the other day |
| 01:44.51 | Gwildor_ | well, no easy direct way |
| 01:45.05 | Gwildor_ | im not sure exactly how e16 does it, so it might be possible.... |
| 01:45.08 | Thybo | i had the freakin window iconised |
| 01:45.11 | Gwildor_ | jsut not directly/easily |
| 01:45.15 | Thybo | well |
| 01:45.17 | Gwildor_ | well, waht did you do? |
| 01:45.18 | Thybo | im not a techinican |
| 01:45.27 | Thybo | like a keyboard shortcut |
| 01:46.30 | Gwildor_ | tests or regular e17? |
| 01:46.35 | Thybo | regular |
| 01:46.53 | Thybo | ah rage |
| 01:47.03 | Gwildor_ | its rage? |
| 01:47.13 | Thybo | lol no i got rage |
| 01:47.51 | Thybo | i had it and lost it |
| 01:49.26 | Gwildor_ | im not seeing any way in keybinding to do that.. |
| 01:49.32 | Gwildor_ | nor am i seeing an ibox setting |
| 01:49.45 | Gwildor_ | boot e16 and find out what app is doing it there |
| 01:49.57 | Gwildor_ | then try and load that app in e17 |
| 01:50.01 | Thanatermesis | well, is needed to write a module for e17 to do it |
| 01:50.09 | Thanatermesis | a module to replacees ibox |
| 01:50.20 | Gwildor_ | Thanatermesis, right, but maybe it is a working module, like entrance |
| 01:50.43 | Gwildor_ | i have never looked |
| 01:50.59 | hermit2 | it doesn't work with e17's shelf method |
| 01:51.18 | Gwildor_ | he has non-shelf... |
| 01:51.23 | Gwildor_ | but, i see your point.. |
| 01:51.27 | Thybo | its impossible that i ever saw that on e 17? |
| 01:51.27 | Gwildor_ | ive gotta go. |
| 01:51.28 | Thanatermesis | keyra, what you thinks about the shelves ? |
| 01:51.36 | keyra | Thanatermesis: shelves ? better disable it, those things remember me to inferior systems and his clones... |
| 01:51.38 | Gwildor_ | Thybo, i...think so.. |
| 01:51.45 | Gwildor_ | Thanatermesis, STILL dont like shelves? |
| 01:51.52 | Thybo | :( |
| 01:52.35 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor, personally... no, but i like other things of e17 :) |
| 01:53.01 | Gwildor_ | ofcourse :D |
| 01:53.26 | Gwildor_ | shelves dont really bother me... as it is similair to my old e17 setup anyway (all things across bottom) |
| 01:53.36 | Gwildor_ | (everything the same size)) |
| 01:53.53 | Thanatermesis | yes... well, with a little hack in the source code maybe... :) |
| 01:54.03 | Gwildor_ | what dont you like? |
| 01:54.06 | Gwildor_ | about shelves? |
| 01:54.18 | Gwildor_ | i jstu make transparent... NP then :D |
| 01:54.29 | hermit2 | I put different things in seperate shelves |
| 01:54.58 | hermit2 | I move them around to fit my background |
| 01:55.34 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor, made this with shelves: http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/User/_previews/screenshot.jpeg.html |
| 01:55.37 | hermit2 | but then the only thing on my screen is the clock, moon phase, and weather and pager |
| 01:55.37 | Gwildor_ | i will put up SS of my desktop tomarrow |
| 01:55.45 | keyra | hermit2: bee ]:) |
| 01:55.55 | Thanatermesis | clock, tclock, weather, calendar.. |
| 01:56.04 | Thanatermesis | keyra, you crazy |
| 01:56.56 | Gwildor_ | Thanatermesis, that is WITH shelves? |
| 01:57.04 | Gwildor_ | it looks good...what is problem? |
| 01:57.04 | Thanatermesis | no, of course |
| 01:57.04 | keyra | Gwildor_: shelves ? better disable it, those things remember me to inferior systems and his clones... |
| 01:57.09 | Thanatermesis | hte position |
| 01:57.09 | hermit2 | and if you put the pager in a vertical shelf it becomes very small... I like it |
| 01:57.20 | Thanatermesis | you only can put modules on the borders of the screen |
| 01:57.43 | Gwildor_ | ahh...i see.. |
| 01:57.57 | Gwildor_ | too many modules for me... i am minimal |
| 01:57.59 | hermit2 | ya... but only put those things on the borders anyway so i can see them even if I have apps open |
| 01:58.06 | Gwildor_ | but, looks very nice... too bad :( |
| 01:58.14 | keyra | Gwildor_: :) |
| 01:58.18 | Gwildor_ | hermit2, good point |
| 01:59.20 | hermit2 | how did he get the weather module in the middle of the screen? |
| 01:59.44 | Gwildor_ | non-shelves e17 |
| 01:59.53 | Gwildor_ | CD default e17 |
| 02:00.11 | hermit2 | oh... |
| 02:00.13 | Gwildor_ | brb |
| 02:00.47 | Gwildor_ | nope....bummer |
| 02:00.49 | Gwildor_ | wait.. |
| 02:01.41 | hermit2 | no they don't really stack but yet they can over lap |
| 02:01.44 | Gwildor_ | nope.... |
| 02:01.46 | Gwildor_ | gtg |
| 02:01.48 | Gwildor_ | laters |
| 02:01.57 | Gwildor_ | yeah, if could stack.. |
| 02:02.02 | Gwildor_ | just stack empty ones... |
| 02:02.10 | Gwildor_ | then put stuff in the middle area.. |
| 02:02.16 | Gwildor_ | oh well, gotta go |
| 02:02.43 | hermit2 | ya, but soon as you open opera you don't see it anyway... no point in havuing it in the middle |
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| 02:13.13 | Thybo | any good calendar for e17 that is transparent? |
| 02:13.36 | hermit2 | there is a calendar module |
| 02:14.59 | Thybo | i have to install it? |
| 02:15.44 | Thybo | i can't find it in modules |
| 02:15.59 | hermit2 | not sure... if it isn't in your list of modules then i guess you need to install it. In which case I'm not sure if it will work with your current version of e17 |
| 02:16.41 | Thybo | hm |
| 02:16.48 | Thybo | i found one that says gcalendar |
| 02:16.56 | Thybo | im givin it a try |
| 02:17.09 | hermit2 | what do you want to do with it. |
| 02:17.20 | hermit2 | just have it say the date |
| 02:17.23 | Thybo | nope |
| 02:17.31 | Thybo | have calendar in transparent mode |
| 02:17.35 | Thybo | one or 2 months |
| 02:17.48 | hermit2 | or do you want to be able to mark appointments on it? |
| 02:18.22 | hermit2 | just for the transparency gadgetness of it... |
| 02:18.48 | hermit2 | I don't know |
| 02:19.49 | Thybo | hmm |
| 02:21.01 | Thybo | any way to redner transparency more transparent? |
| 02:22.03 | hermit2 | transparency is an illusion... done with a snapshot of your background... no idea which apps it works with. |
| 02:22.11 | keyra | hermit2: the version of E17 in Elive Revolution is a old but stable version, this means to its incompatible with some updates of E17 things (no on Elive, but for example on www.get-e.org), if you want to use a recent version of e17 you can install it from the tests repository: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Tests_branch_repository |
| 02:22.21 | Thybo | yeah |
| 02:22.30 | Thybo | but its much clearer |
| 02:23.12 | hermit2 | thanks keyra |
| 02:23.21 | keyra | hermit2: welcome :) |
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| 02:23.47 | Gandhi | 0/ |
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| 02:26.03 | Thybo | what is ewmh? |
| 02:26.38 | hermit2 | ? don't know |
| 02:26.59 | hermit2 | something yucky i think |
| 02:27.47 | Thybo | the best skin for the calendar is the gnome one |
| 02:27.50 | Thybo | what should i do? |
| 02:27.51 | Thybo | lol |
| 02:28.11 | hermit2 | lol... find a different calendar? |
| 02:29.50 | Thybo | yeah |
| 02:29.56 | Thybo | im headin for that:) |
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| 02:36.22 | Detox_at_Home | hello |
| 02:36.30 | keyra | Detox_at_Home: hi |
| 02:43.37 | Detox_at_Home | I saw the notice to move sources.list to etch vs debian |
| 02:43.55 | Detox_at_Home | this is to be done for elive ver 6 right? |
| 02:44.31 | hermit2 | yes |
| 02:45.24 | hermit2 | change all instances of the word testing to etch and then run apt-get update |
| 02:48.54 | Detox_at_Home | yes god i did |
| 02:48.57 | Detox_at_Home | good |
| 02:49.25 | Detox_at_Home | do you know much about xampp? |
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| 02:56.20 | hermit2 | nothing |
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| 03:05.13 | Ezep | hi all |
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| 03:56.51 | Thybo | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/29179558/?qo=23&q=by%3Ay-i-y-u-s&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps |
| 03:56.57 | Thybo | how do i find this calendar? |
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| 04:13.28 | Thanatermesis | the development of Elive is really fast... 0.6.8 dev. is started and 0.6.7 is actually not finished to upload http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 04:13.37 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 04:14.33 | Thybo | go thana go thanaaa :) |
| 04:19.35 | roxville | Thybo, i'm not sure... about the calendar |
| 04:19.46 | roxville | looks like one with larger font... |
| 04:19.58 | roxville | and that's the "old" e17 |
| 04:20.35 | roxville | wow, yiyus made that theme too? |
| 04:20.36 | Thanatermesis | mmh, this theme is made by yiyus, long time i don't see he... |
| 04:20.55 | roxville | i think he had a BIG hand in lucax, the elive night theme |
| 04:21.16 | Thanatermesis | no no... lucax is made by duvelr |
| 04:21.26 | roxville | ahh yes, sorry |
| 04:22.22 | Thanatermesis | http://y-i-y-u-s.deviantart.com/gallery/scraps/ |
| 04:28.44 | roxville | yiyus is brilliant |
| 04:30.22 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 04:34.24 | roxville | ok ppl, have a good night |
| 04:34.25 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:51.34 | Thanatermesis | good night rox |
| 04:57.47 | Thybo | ok |
| 04:58.05 | Thybo | Thana isn't it like 6 o clokc in the morning? |
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| 05:19.59 | Thanatermesis | 7:20 more exactly |
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| 05:48.57 | Thanatermesis | NICE ! 3 new features on 0.6.8 and 0.6.7 is not finished to upload lol |
| 05:49.12 | LinuxNIT | lol |
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| 06:26.09 | Elive_user18 | Hi |
| 06:26.52 | Elive_user18 | I see there are some other newbies out there testing enlightenment. |
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| 07:51.51 | Thanatermesis | http://main.elivecd.org/isos/ <------ 40 minutes remaining for finished to upload the new ISO http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 07:51.59 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
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| 10:09.52 | L1nUx_L33t | morning :-D |
| 10:11.35 | Mtraker | morning L1nUx_L33t |
| 10:12.20 | L1nUx_L33t | :-) |
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| 12:04.49 | roxville | 0.6.7 is up on some servers!!! |
| 12:05.13 | roxville | but it's still syncing, so... it may take a day before all the servers are functional |
| 12:05.32 | roxville | so if you can wait a day, it would be cool :) |
| 12:08.48 | Skovanden | Elive 0.6.7? |
| 12:09.44 | roxville | yeah, Elive 0.6.7 |
| 12:10.12 | Skovanden | How about the mac version, soon to come? |
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| 12:17.39 | roxville | i think so |
| 12:17.48 | TuxMeister | hey guys! |
| 12:17.54 | roxville | hi TuxMeister :) |
| 12:18.04 | TuxMeister | yey roxville |
| 12:18.13 | TuxMeister | how are ya? |
| 12:18.21 | TuxMeister | how are ya? |
| 12:18.25 | TuxMeister | how are ya? |
| 12:18.31 | roxville | lol |
| 12:18.37 | roxville | i'm good, how are you? |
| 12:18.38 | TuxMeister | damn, sorry for the repeated question :S |
| 12:18.46 | TuxMeister | fine, at work |
| 12:19.02 | roxville | i gotta take my step son to school and take my daughter to the park... |
| 12:19.03 | TuxMeister | connected with a very simple cgi irc client from my server |
| 12:19.11 | roxville | so i'll have to leave now, sorry |
| 12:19.16 | roxville | ok |
| 12:19.21 | roxville | bbl |
| 12:19.21 | TuxMeister | nah, don't worry |
| 12:19.25 | roxville | :) |
| 12:19.31 | TuxMeister | family life is good |
| 12:19.34 | TuxMeister | bye |
| 12:19.39 | keyra | TuxMeister: because I'm on it :) |
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| 12:48.36 | roxville | wow, thana is in high-performance mode right now... |
| 12:48.52 | roxville | he's already started the changelog of 0.6.8 |
| 12:49.01 | roxville | http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 12:49.09 | keyra | roxville: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 12:49.32 | roxville | yes keyra thank you very much :) |
| 12:49.39 | roxville | what would i do without you? |
| 12:49.41 | keyra | roxville: :) |
| 12:50.51 | roxville | http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/03/29/2119245 |
| 12:50.59 | roxville | this looks pretty cool |
| 12:52.14 | roxville | ok, heading for the park! |
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| 13:06.13 | hermit2 | becaue they are still closet shaker/victorian mind set |
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| 13:11.04 | Thanatermesis | http://main.elivecd.org/isos/ |
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| 13:27.36 | hermit2 | hmm... this could take some time |
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| 13:51.07 | dats | hola |
| 13:51.16 | keyra | dats: que tal ? |
| 13:51.27 | PrinceAMD | dats, hola |
| 13:51.32 | dats | be, i tu ? |
| 13:51.54 | PrinceAMD | dats, do you know english? |
| 13:51.59 | dats | hola PrinceAMD |
| 13:52.02 | dats | :) |
| 13:52.07 | dats | something :S |
| 13:52.10 | PrinceAMD | dats, hi there |
| 13:52.12 | dats | but little :S |
| 13:52.22 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 13:52.31 | PrinceAMD | dats, how are you? |
| 13:52.32 | dats | PrinceAMD: do you speak english ? |
| 13:52.47 | dats | i'm feel well, thanks :) and you ? |
| 13:52.49 | PrinceAMD | dats, yes English and only English |
| 13:52.55 | dats | uops |
| 13:53.09 | dats | where are you from ? |
| 13:53.12 | PrinceAMD | dats, i feel FULL after eating my breakfast and somewhat lazy |
| 13:53.37 | PrinceAMD | dats, South America - Guyana |
| 13:53.37 | dats | mmmm |
| 13:53.42 | dats | uops |
| 13:53.48 | dats | and only speak english ???? |
| 13:53.56 | keyra | dats: with only one "?" you have sufficient |
| 13:54.06 | dats | xDDDDDDDD |
| 13:54.11 | dats | may be ... may be :P |
| 13:54.38 | dats | i have problems with ibar ... |
| 13:54.49 | dats | i can't start any aplication with my iconbar :S |
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| 13:56.49 | PrinceAMD | dats i'm back :D |
| 13:57.04 | dats | oh yeah :) |
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| 14:01.22 | Thybo | hulo |
| 14:06.06 | dats | uops |
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| 14:07.30 | dats | PrinceAMD: what happens ? :S |
| 14:07.42 | dats | ;) |
| 14:10.17 | PrinceAMD | dats, trying out a new command |
| 14:10.31 | PrinceAMD | dats, want to try it, it reboots your pc up to init 2 |
| 14:10.50 | PrinceAMD | as root |
| 14:10.53 | PrinceAMD | chmod -x /etc/init.d/halt |
| 14:10.55 | PrinceAMD | then type |
| 14:10.58 | PrinceAMD | init 1 |
| 14:12.50 | Thybo | PrinceAMD, hello :) |
| 14:12.50 | Thybo | what is the pb? |
| 14:12.51 | keyra | Thybo: hi |
| 14:12.54 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra |
| 14:12.56 | apt | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-proton gun at keyra |
| 14:14.26 | PrinceAMD | Thybo, hi |
| 14:14.31 | PrinceAMD | Thybo, i have no prob |
| 14:14.32 | Thybo | :) |
| 14:14.43 | Thybo | yeah but dats the problem |
| 14:14.43 | Thybo | hahahha |
| 14:14.45 | dats | PrinceAMD: no thanks :P |
| 14:17.46 | PrinceAMD | dats, hehe |
| 14:19.59 | Thybo | udtapi.dll someone knows what this file is? |
| 14:20.11 | Thybo | its in my home folder and i got no mem from it |
| 14:20.20 | keyra | Thybo: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format |
| 14:20.39 | Thybo | apt: kick keyra |
| 14:20.41 | apt | ACTION kicks keyra |
| 14:25.52 | Thybo | on upgrade why are those package kept back? "libavcodeccvs51 libavformatcvs51 mencoder mplayer" |
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| 14:31.40 | LinuxNIT-II | Thybo, dll files are from windows |
| 14:31.51 | LinuxNIT-II | or wine |
| 14:31.56 | Thybo | yeah |
| 14:32.04 | Thybo | it appeared when i used wine earlier |
| 14:32.23 | Thybo | im havin probleems with the TLS package of amsn |
| 14:32.32 | Thybo | kepps on wanting to install and install |
| 14:35.04 | LinuxNIT-II | does it fail to install? |
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| 16:44.48 | Elive_user84 | hello |
| 16:44.56 | keyra | Elive_user84: hi |
| 16:45.48 | bech | Elive 0.6.7 tomorrow ^^ |
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| 16:48.38 | bech | can i upgrade my 0.6.6v to 0.6.7 ? |
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| 16:50.51 | Mtraker | I've a 0.6.5 what it's better in 0.6.7? |
| 16:51.38 | bech | look on the website ^^ |
| 16:51.41 | Elive_user57 | I have updated yesterday Elive via synaptic without the proposed change of the apt sources list. Now my Opera doesn't start. I get the message "Speicherzugriffsfehler" |
| 16:51.48 | keyra | Elive_user57: thanks... bot :) |
| 17:24.31 | roxville | http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 17:24.37 | roxville | there's the changelog |
| 17:24.39 | keyra | roxville: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 17:29.41 | bech | can i upgrade my elive0.6.6 to 0.6.7 ? |
| 17:31.33 | roxville | bech, yes, i believe so |
| 17:31.53 | bech | why ? with the command apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 17:31.55 | roxville | bech, you have to change your sources list... do you know that? |
| 17:32.27 | roxville | scite /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:32.35 | keyra | roxville: Please, do not use scite, has a bug to BROKE the files, use gedit or cream instead if you don't know vim/emacs/joe... better explanation in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412270 |
| 17:32.36 | bech | yes and ? |
| 17:32.39 | roxville | change everything "testing" to "etch" |
| 17:33.00 | roxville | keyra, it's cool, honey :) |
| 17:33.22 | roxville | then: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:33.40 | roxville | i think i got most of the upgrades today when i did it |
| 17:36.54 | roxville | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 17:36.55 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.00 | roxville | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 17:37.00 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.00 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.09 | keyra | roxville: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 17:37.09 | roxville | this was my upgrade today |
| 17:37.35 | roxville | seems i also got a couple of new features from 0.6.8 :) |
| 17:38.28 | roxville | and... if you're using amsn you need to install elive-fonts package for amsn font configuration (update .amsn with elive-skel) |
| 17:40.48 | roxville | ok, wife and daughter are out, i'm gonna try to do some recording, bbl |
| 17:40.52 | bech | yes and i hope a new version of E17 ^^ |
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| 17:56.01 | RQ | hil |
| 17:56.33 | RQ | Thanatermesis, u here? |
| 17:57.09 | Thanatermesis | RQ, a little |
| 17:57.23 | RQ | great |
| 17:57.34 | RQ | i was moving my mirror to another server last night |
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| 17:57.50 | RQ | and noticed that the dir which is supposed to mirror elive, is empty |
| 17:58.16 | RQ | what's the appropriate mirroring procedure now? |
| 17:58.41 | RQ | I had this line before: |
| 17:58.43 | RQ | rsync -avz --delete rsync://mirrors.thanatermesis.org::/pub/linux/distributions/elive/ /mnt/data/ftp/Linux/Elive/ >> $0.log |
| 17:59.54 | RQ | Thanatermesis, ? |
| 18:00.56 | Thanatermesis | yes its empty |
| 18:01.01 | Thanatermesis | we have problems with ibilbio right now |
| 18:01.07 | Thanatermesis | i think to its fixed tomorrow |
| 18:01.14 | RQ | ah, ok then. |
| 18:01.21 | Thanatermesis | aparently ibibio are moving servers, not sure |
| 18:01.24 | Thanatermesis | i just wait :) |
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| 18:01.44 | RQ | another question: would you mind if I mirror the stable version from that SLOW server? |
| 18:01.52 | Elive_user75 | HELLO |
| 18:02.56 | Thanatermesis | on the mirrors, all isos are included |
| 18:03.14 | Thanatermesis | or you mean to share a slow server ? |
| 18:03.20 | RQ | nah :D |
| 18:03.37 | RQ | it's slow enough already (At least for FTP traffic) |
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| 18:05.58 | Thanatermesis | well, all the isos are included, just do "ls -lRa" for see all |
| 18:07.51 | RQ | thanks Thanatermesis |
| 18:08.03 | RQ | I'll wait for ibiblio to fix the problems then |
| 18:08.12 | RQ | i'll come back later in case they're unfixed in a few days |
| 18:08.14 | RQ | bye |
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| 18:34.54 | Thanatermesis | anybody has tried 0.6.7 ? |
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| 18:49.59 | hermit2 | where is the file that lets me reinstall my old programs after upgrading through the cd? |
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| 18:57.49 | roxville | hermit2, it's in the root folder |
| 18:58.30 | roxville | dpkg --set-selections < /root/list_packages_Elive_0.6.3.txt && apt-get -u dselect-upgrade |
| 18:58.44 | roxville | this is the command you need to reinstall all the apps you had |
| 19:05.43 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, 0.6.7 ? |
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| 19:10.57 | roxville | lol, did you scare her off? |
| 19:12.22 | Thanatermesis | aparently :/ |
| 19:12.32 | roxville | hehe |
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| 19:16.36 | hermit2 | was someone trying to message me? cause I managed to lock myself out of the desktop. |
| 19:16.57 | roxville | yes we were... |
| 19:17.13 | roxville | <roxville> hermit2, it's in the root folder |
| 19:17.14 | roxville | <roxville> dpkg --set-selections < /root/list_packages_Elive_0.6.3.txt && apt-get -u dselect-upgrade |
| 19:17.14 | roxville | <roxville> this is the command you need to reinstall all the apps you had |
| 19:17.14 | roxville | <Thanatermesis> hermit2, 0.6.7 ? |
| 19:17.23 | roxville | * hermit2 has quit (Remote closed the connection) |
| 19:17.29 | roxville | <roxville> lol, did you scare her off? |
| 19:17.29 | roxville | <Thanatermesis> aparently :/ |
| 19:17.49 | roxville | that's pretty much it :) |
| 19:17.57 | hermit2 | yes Thanatermesis, 6.7 |
| 19:18.00 | L1nUx_L33t | <roxville> hehe |
| 19:18.08 | L1nUx_L33t | n that's it |
| 19:18.11 | L1nUx_L33t | :-Þ |
| 19:18.13 | roxville | lol |
| 19:18.51 | hermit2 | I looked all over home... didn't check root |
| 19:19.00 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, how to runs ? any problem with the graphical system ?= |
| 19:19.33 | hermit2 | it runs good... I had to set my resolution though |
| 19:20.23 | hermit2 | it defaulted to 1024... I set it to 1680x1050 |
| 19:21.24 | hermit2 | I do not recomment to use key combo ctrl+alt+f1... I don't know how to undo its effect |
| 19:22.04 | roxville | shit, that'sone helluva resolution! |
| 19:22.18 | roxville | what do you use, a 42' plasma screen? |
| 19:22.25 | hermit2 | a 22" widescreen |
| 19:22.25 | L1nUx_L33t | xDDDD |
| 19:22.27 | L1nUx_L33t | rofl! |
| 19:22.42 | roxville | wow |
| 19:22.50 | hermit2 | :D |
| 19:23.40 | hermit2 | I looked long time for this monitor... it had to be better than my 21" crt at 1600x1200 |
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| 19:24.36 | hermit2 | the crt was like parking a tracktor trailer in your garage |
| 19:25.49 | hermit2 | now is like having a little mg that can still haul a house :P |
| 19:26.01 | roxville | yeah yeah... |
| 19:26.20 | roxville | keep teasing me... |
| 19:26.46 | hermit2 | it was only 350 USD |
| 19:27.13 | hermit2 | my xmas present |
| 19:28.25 | roxville | only... |
| 19:28.27 | roxville | lol |
| 19:28.42 | roxville | well girl you probably deserved it :) |
| 19:28.51 | hermit2 | well.. you seen the prices on some of them... 1000 and up. |
| 19:29.09 | roxville | oh yeah |
| 19:29.24 | hermit2 | mostly meant for high end graphic work though |
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| 19:38.01 | hermit2 | I was expecting e17 to be the .37 version not .26 though |
| 19:38.17 | roxville | yeah... not yet... |
| 19:38.22 | roxville | keyra, changelog |
| 19:38.42 | roxville | keyra, ? |
| 19:39.23 | roxville | http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 19:39.31 | keyra | roxville: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 19:39.45 | hermit2 | lol, your funny keyra |
| 19:39.53 | Ruidoso_Silencio | keyra, (K) |
| 19:40.10 | roxville | i don't know what triggers her... |
| 19:40.17 | roxville | i mean what command... |
| 19:40.25 | hermit2 | hi |
| 19:40.26 | roxville | not that i'm trying to command her... |
| 19:41.49 | roxville | i just want her to gimme that url when i ask her!!! |
| 19:41.57 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, <hermit2> it runs good... I had to set my resolution though |
| 19:41.59 | Thanatermesis | what ? |
| 19:42.16 | Thanatermesis | <hermit2> I do not recomment to use key combo ctrl+alt+f1... I don't know how to undo its effect |
| 19:42.19 | Thanatermesis | F9 |
| 19:42.29 | roxville | hermit2, i don't think .37 will be on until 0.7 |
| 19:42.37 | GPLGeek | Thanatermesis, what happened to our mirrors? |
| 19:42.49 | roxville | possibly 0.6.9, as a test |
| 19:42.54 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, how you have set it to 1680x1050 ? xconfigurator or manually ? |
| 19:43.08 | roxville | GPLGeek, we have no idea, they're all fucked up |
| 19:43.08 | hermit2 | I did it in elpanel |
| 19:43.22 | hermit2 | configuration wouldn't let me |
| 19:43.24 | Thanatermesis | GPLGeek, problems on ibiblio, we neeed to wait |
| 19:43.53 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, ok, try a thing... edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and comment the long line called "modeline" |
| 19:43.55 | GPLGeek | is there a torrent going? |
| 19:43.55 | roxville | start preparing the release note |
| 19:44.05 | GPLGeek | if you want to upload it to my server I'll start a torrent. |
| 19:44.06 | Thanatermesis | reboot and see if the graphical system works good in your resolution |
| 19:46.49 | hermit2 | /etc/x11/xorg.conf doesn't seem to exist on that path |
| 19:47.07 | GPLGeek | capital X11 |
| 19:47.19 | hermit2 | doh |
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| 19:52.37 | hermit2 | ok, be back |
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| 19:57.01 | hermit2 | grr... xchat is not saving its info. |
| 19:58.32 | roxville | hermit2, :) |
| 19:58.46 | roxville | i have something for you... |
| 19:58.59 | hermit2 | well after commenting modeline things seem to be the proper res. and all the res options are in the config panel |
| 19:59.02 | roxville | open thunar and hit ctrl+H |
| 19:59.26 | roxville | then find .xchat2 and xchat2-old |
| 19:59.36 | roxville | i mean .xchat2-old |
| 20:00.00 | roxville | rename -old to...i mean take the "old" out |
| 20:02.10 | hermit2 | then there are two files of same name. or do you mean to delete the "old" file |
| 20:03.03 | roxville | not delete, rename |
| 20:03.24 | roxville | rename the one without -old also... to something else |
| 20:03.50 | hermit2 | ok, done |
| 20:04.04 | roxville | restart xchat |
| 20:04.14 | roxville | your settings should be back |
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| 20:05.06 | roxville | ok... |
| 20:05.08 | roxville | weird |
| 20:05.17 | roxville | did you have two old ones? |
| 20:05.45 | hermit2 | no.. and it did remember the channel but not the name |
| 20:05.56 | roxville | strange |
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| 20:06.24 | roxville | thana taught me this trick... worked fine to 0.6.6 |
| 20:08.25 | hermit2 | hmm.. both files have elive user set for nicks |
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| 20:19.33 | hermit2 | hmm, I can't decide if I want to install .37 or just leave things the way they are. |
| 20:20.06 | hermit2 | there are things I like about both versions |
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| 20:35.51 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, can you post your xorg.conf file to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 20:36.09 | hermit2 | sure |
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| 20:39.15 | hermit2 | hmm... hang on |
| 20:40.36 | hermit2 | ok Thanatermesis , pasted |
| 20:42.40 | Thanatermesis | link ? |
| 20:43.29 | hermit2 | http://paste.debian.net/index.php |
| 20:43.54 | Thanatermesis | worng link |
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| 20:44.26 | hermit2 | ok... I pasted in the text box... is there something else I'm suppose to do? |
| 20:45.08 | LinuxNIT | click upload |
| 20:45.26 | hermit2 | if I hit upload it disappears but I don't know where it went |
| 20:45.36 | Thanatermesis | click to Send then |
| 20:46.00 | LinuxNIT | oh yeah send :) |
| 20:46.00 | Thanatermesis | or upload the file, yes |
| 20:46.02 | LinuxNIT | that pastebin is different |
| 20:46.20 | hermit2 | http://paste.debian.net/25345 |
| 20:47.06 | Mtraker | Thanatermesis, http://youtube.com/watch?v=DXH-GejNZKw |
| 20:47.32 | Thanatermesis | aha, looks correct |
| 20:47.37 | Thanatermesis | and the resolution is OK; yes ? |
| 20:48.43 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, estoy viendolo, tiene buena pinta :D, es un post-montaje con cinelerra ? |
| 20:48.50 | Mtraker | sip |
| 20:48.51 | keyra | Thanatermesis: cinelerra r0cks! |
| 20:49.08 | hermit2 | yes the resolution is great |
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| 20:51.22 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, pregunta, usas un firefox "no oficial" de Elive ? |
| 20:51.31 | Mtraker | jajaja |
| 20:51.53 | Mtraker | si, es flock |
| 20:52.05 | Mtraker | para postear en blogger y flickr directamente |
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| 20:52.40 | Mtraker | pero normalmente uso iceweasel |
| 20:52.50 | Thanatermesis | es que lo digo porque se ve la grabacion de video "rota" |
| 20:52.53 | Thanatermesis | recuerdas lo que te dije de la lib ? |
| 20:52.58 | Thanatermesis | ese grabador de X graba "cambios" |
| 20:53.03 | Thanatermesis | los cambios los maneja Xdamage |
| 20:53.15 | Thanatermesis | y para que funcione, todos los programas tienen que estar compilados para la misma version de Xdamage |
| 20:53.27 | Thanatermesis | osea, si grabas jahshaka por ejemplo, veras todo su interface roto |
| 20:53.35 | keyra | Thanatermesis: jahshaka! apt-get install it ;) is maybe the only real .deb packages of jahshaka builded entirely for a debian system |
| 20:53.44 | Mtraker | pues lo revisare para los proximos |
| 20:53.57 | Maximiliaoadl | Thanatermesis, la semana pasada se me quemó el mother... conseguí otro con un pentium 2 350 y le puse 512 de ram y una placa savage4 de 32... solamente puse el disco duro con elive de la maquina quemada... y una vez reconfigurado el bios.... arrancó como si nunca hubiera pasado nada.... me encantó |
| 20:54.19 | Maximiliaoadl | ni un solo lio de drivers ni nada |
| 20:54.33 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, ok, te lo digo solo para informarte eh ? :) |
| 20:54.42 | Thanatermesis | para que lo sepas y tal, asi la proxima vez lo tienes en cuenta |
| 20:54.43 | Mtraker | si y me viene bien |
| 20:55.13 | Thanatermesis | Maximiliano, :) |
| 20:55.17 | Thanatermesis | voy a seguir mirandolo... |
| 20:55.48 | Maximiliaoadl | las veces que intenté cambiar mother micro memoria y video en w2k o xp tuve que reinstalar... |
| 20:56.05 | Maximiliaoadl | con elive... es una pasada |
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| 21:00.32 | Thanatermesis | está muy chulo Mtraker :D |
| 21:00.58 | Mtraker | :) |
| 21:01.03 | Elive_user65 | this is IRC ? |
| 21:01.07 | Thanatermesis | podriamos hacer unos video-tutoriales :) |
| 21:01.08 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user65, yes |
| 21:01.16 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, por cierto, que musica es ? |
| 21:01.30 | Mtraker | la pille de jamendo |
| 21:01.42 | Thanatermesis | aha, esta muy buena :) |
| 21:01.43 | Thanatermesis | tryad ? |
| 21:02.26 | Elive_user65 | 1 question does Elive come with firewall ? |
| 21:02.46 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user65, why you need a firewall ? |
| 21:03.05 | Thanatermesis | the only thing to you maybe care is about hte port 22 (remote login access), and you can disable it on elpanel |
| 21:03.17 | Mtraker | the song is cellule, and the group it's Silence |
| 21:03.24 | Elive_user65 | oh, i thought it was required... |
| 21:03.59 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, aqui tienes una recopilacion mia bastante buena si quieres usar alguna en el futuro (añade la tuya asi le hecharé un vistazo) http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/EliveVideos |
| 21:04.13 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user65, nah, is not required, this is a secure system ;) |
| 21:04.21 | Elive_user65 | sweet |
| 21:04.25 | Elive_user65 | thanks alot... |
| 21:04.39 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user65, anyways, you can configure a firewall if you really want it, but maybe can be more disturbing than other thing (files to you can't send, etc) |
| 21:04.44 | Thanatermesis | welcome :) |
| 21:06.06 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, ya esta en favoritos el video ;) |
| 21:06.48 | Mtraker | ahora tengo que conseguir mi dominio otra vez, que quiero portarlo a otro servidor |
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| 21:11.30 | Thanatermesis | que se te a caducado ? |
| 21:11.59 | Mtraker | si, pero he solicitado el traslado a otro sitio |
| 21:12.03 | Mtraker | ahora veremos |
| 21:12.52 | Mtraker | si no pasare a blogspot y a freir esparragos |
| 21:14.06 | Mtraker | donde estaban los iconos oficiales de elive? |
| 21:15.05 | Thanatermesis | huy |
| 21:15.08 | Thanatermesis | para exactamente ? |
| 21:16.17 | Thanatermesis | lo digo porque hoy tengo que reconstruir todo el theme de iconos de gtk para Elive |
| 21:16.18 | Mtraker | para trabajar con ellos |
| 21:16.18 | Thanatermesis | sino... apt-cache search exquisite |
| 21:16.18 | Thanatermesis | alli hay la mayoria, una buena seleccion |
| 21:16.19 | Thanatermesis | te irán perfecto para lo que quieres ;) |
| 21:18.06 | Mtraker | ahora otro... el logotipo de elive? |
| 21:18.22 | Mtraker | voy ha hacer unos wallpapers |
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| 21:21.54 | Thanatermesis | ok :) |
| 21:22.37 | hermit2 | ok, what is missing? why can't I unpack a .deb? |
| 21:23.42 | hermit2 | I get this when trying to unpack opera....Errors were encountered while processing |
| 21:26.16 | Thanatermesis | man dpkg |
| 21:26.18 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -x |
| 21:26.29 | Thanatermesis | use the opera of Elive repo's |
| 21:27.14 | Thanatermesis | ok, i see the problem, wait a second |
| 21:28.00 | dats_ | see you soon |
| 21:29.15 | hermit2 | scince debians update to x11 (I think it is) opera from the repos won't work. you need their snapshot of 9.20 |
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| 21:39.51 | Mtraker | para cargar las fuentes ttf tengo que reiniciar las X? |
| 21:40.06 | Mtraker | perdon, fuentes ttf nuevas |
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| 21:46.36 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, instala el paquete elive-fonts reciend añadido ayer |
| 21:47.18 | Mtraker | voy a ver |
| 21:47.28 | Mtraker | pero para refrescar las fuentes tengo que cerrar las X? |
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| 21:55.48 | Thanatermesis | para añadir fuentes tienes que meterlas en el dir .fonts, no creo que tengas que reiniciar nada |
| 21:56.39 | egrub | Thanatermesis: los fonts solo para usar gtk |
| 21:56.45 | egrub | No hay que reniciar el X |
| 21:57.03 | egrub | solo las aplicaciones portadas de gtk debe cerrar y volver a ejecutar |
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| 21:59.40 | Mtraker | ok |
| 22:02.32 | egrub | Mtraker: por ejemplo: xchat |
| 22:02.41 | egrub | Debe cerrar el xchat y volver... |
| 22:03.02 | Mtraker | es que h instalado una fuente y no la veo en el inkscape |
| 22:03.13 | Mtraker | ahora mirare |
| 22:04.11 | egrub | Ok |
| 22:05.40 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, update opera |
| 22:06.03 | Thanatermesis | apt-get update first |
| 22:06.08 | hermit2 | update it.. I haven't even installed it |
| 22:06.32 | Thanatermesis | ok, its new package |
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| 22:08.47 | hermit2 | nope... that version of opera segfaults... you need opera's hot fix in opera9.20 |
| 22:10.06 | hermit2 | or ... there is also an edit for xorg |
| 22:10.40 | hermit2 | http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2007/04/06/hotfix |
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| 22:12.14 | hermit2 | Thanatermesis, it segfaults. see above what I wrote |
| 22:12.23 | rabe | hi |
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| 22:12.58 | rabe | i need a special java sdk version 1.4.2_10 should i use the .bin version or is there any apt-packet |
| 22:13.08 | Thanatermesis | ok, sorry, im a little busy, i made a look.. |
| 22:14.52 | hermit2 | no worries... I'm making dinner :) |
| 22:17.08 | rabe | ok i installed the bin version now |
| 22:17.51 | rabe | btw are any java developers here or someone else with gui experience |
| 22:18.10 | rabe | i have an application with swing gui issues |
| 22:18.39 | rabe | it repainting to often and i want to make tune a bit |
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| 22:37.16 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, ok,fixed |
| 22:37.25 | Ezep | apt, time |
| 22:37.32 | apt | 2007.04.10 22:37:32 GMT |
| 22:37.43 | Ezep | thanls apt ;) |
| 22:49.59 | Mtraker | Thanatermesis, ping |
| 22:51.37 | Ezep | what happen tomorrow Thanatermesis? |
| 22:51.39 | Ezep | now version of Elive? |
| 22:51.41 | Ezep | s/now/new |
| 23:05.07 | hermit2 | thank you Thanatermesis *hugs* |
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