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| 00:01.08 | KaKaRoTo-KS | bye then |
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| 00:44.51 | LinuxNIT-II | hermit2, did you get my message? |
| 00:45.03 | hermit2 | I did |
| 00:45.26 | hermit2 | thana made up a new version in the repos that works well. |
| 00:45.33 | LinuxNIT-II | ah ok |
| 00:45.39 | LinuxNIT-II | nevermind then |
| 00:45.40 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 00:46.03 | hermit2 | its opera's .20 their fix |
| 00:46.45 | LinuxNIT-II | cool |
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| 01:09.08 | GPLGeek | woh huricane force winds |
| 01:09.10 | GPLGeek | in california |
| 01:09.20 | GPLGeek | blew my spa cover off |
| 01:09.45 | GPLGeek | blew a 70lb wooden step across the yard |
| 01:09.56 | GPLGeek | had a row boat upside down and it lifted it and threw it into the fence |
| 01:10.04 | GPLGeek | blew a aluminum ladder away |
| 01:10.10 | GPLGeek | crazy |
| 01:10.35 | GPLGeek | one of my neighbor's windows screens blew out and started going down the street |
| 01:10.48 | DaRtH_VaDeR | :O |
| 01:11.48 | hermit2 | yay, and I thought i was having weather |
| 01:11.48 | GPLGeek | the news has winds listed at 25mph but up on the hills its like higher than the 100mph winds we had in bakersfield a few times. |
| 01:12.08 | GPLGeek | hermit2, your weather is worse |
| 01:12.20 | GPLGeek | these are gusts, your flooding! |
| 01:12.20 | hermit2 | ya, my mother still doesn't have power |
| 01:12.43 | GPLGeek | we have a "critical power alert" right now |
| 01:12.47 | GPLGeek | because of the winds |
| 01:13.04 | GPLGeek | anyone who depends on power is supposed to be ready with backup power in case winds blow something over. |
| 01:13.14 | hermit2 | ya, the winds here took out a lot of trees and phone poles |
| 01:13.34 | hermit2 | nice... and who doesn't depend on power |
| 01:13.52 | GPLGeek | I had to wait at the bottom of the hill today because a tree hit a car, which hit another car, which hit another car, and then somone else drove into the tree |
| 01:14.01 | GPLGeek | so I went to taco bell and had a taco |
| 01:14.11 | hermit2 | errr |
| 01:14.14 | GPLGeek | waited it out |
| 01:14.34 | GPLGeek | accidents on both sides of the hill, as schools were getting out |
| 01:14.59 | hermit2 | I saw the tractor part of a semi parked in a driveway holding up the tree laying on the wire to the guy's house |
| 01:15.32 | GPLGeek | heh |
| 01:15.47 | GPLGeek | I bet my fence blows down today |
| 01:15.48 | GPLGeek | its old |
| 01:15.59 | hermit2 | the town next to me had only one way to get in to town |
| 01:15.59 | GPLGeek | like 70s old and has not been painted or sealed |
| 01:17.06 | hermit2 | bridges that survived last yrs flooding failed this yr. |
| 01:17.20 | GPLGeek | I dont know why people drive 50+ MPH in a 25 zone when the winds are up to 140MPH gusts |
| 01:17.50 | GPLGeek | up the street somone ended up parking on a guy's lawn |
| 01:18.04 | GPLGeek | but I think he was drunk |
| 01:18.15 | GPLGeek | because 170 was a peak gust most around 60 |
| 01:18.22 | hermit2 | I don't know... my mom said that when she went to work the night before the wind was so strong that doing forty into the wind had you standing still. |
| 01:19.11 | hermit2 | you ever seen birds flying backwards ... caught in a wind gust |
| 01:19.26 | hermit2 | the strangest sight |
| 01:19.36 | GPLGeek | unless your sliding on the road, rpms would be the matter not mph |
| 01:20.02 | GPLGeek | hermit2, then usually tumble upside down and then flip |
| 01:20.08 | GPLGeek | but ya I've seen it |
| 01:20.57 | GPLGeek | i loved seeing all the kids walking home from school just getting blown to the ground |
| 01:21.08 | GPLGeek | walking against the wind |
| 01:21.16 | hermit2 | you heard about this? http://www.savenetradio.org/ |
| 01:21.37 | hermit2 | ya, thats my kid... |
| 01:21.38 | GPLGeek | yes |
| 01:21.57 | GPLGeek | chronixradio.com , poor bastards are going to get put out of business |
| 01:22.01 | GPLGeek | but the artists love them |
| 01:22.21 | GPLGeek | in fact slayer is talking to the media companies on their behalf saying that they are fucking up. |
| 01:22.23 | hermit2 | just one more way of taking away your fair use rights |
| 01:23.35 | hermit2 | I don't see how it benefits anyone. but someone must have something to gain from it. |
| 01:26.38 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 01:26.46 | GPLGeek | internet radio helps artist |
| 01:26.53 | GPLGeek | is obscurity better? |
| 01:27.02 | GPLGeek | slayer says no and they are grammy winning heavy metal |
| 01:27.15 | GPLGeek | EVEN METALLICA admited it helps sales |
| 01:27.26 | GPLGeek | and they are anti-everything |
| 01:28.58 | hermit2 | of course it does... people will buy what they like. they want to hear it first, try it out. you don't buy a car from just a picture |
| 01:30.56 | GPLGeek | they also wanted to prosecute people who share ear buds with ipods |
| 01:31.15 | GPLGeek | having dual connectors or using speakrs with the ipod in public areas with more than a few people |
| 01:31.20 | GPLGeek | because its "broadcasting" |
| 01:31.23 | GPLGeek | its fucking stupid |
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| 01:31.53 | GPLGeek | I'd rather go with bands like Maps and Atlases, and Mad Caddies, and other bands that offer good content. |
| 01:32.08 | GPLGeek | without strings, or ball and chain, attached |
| 01:32.19 | hermit2 | damn... what are they going to do if I've got the car strereo up loud at a top sign, or in the parking lot , or whereever. |
| 01:32.34 | hermit2 | does that mean I can't play music at my parties? |
| 01:33.17 | GPLGeek | They were fining and jailing people with TV's larger than 52" playing the superbowl or MTV in sports bars or even homes or public areas |
| 01:33.28 | GPLGeek | yes it means you can not play music at parties |
| 01:33.40 | GPLGeek | read the licences that dont even come with the music when you buy it |
| 01:33.54 | GPLGeek | how the hell can you be bound to a licence that is not aparent at the time of sale |
| 01:34.02 | hermit2 | simply outragous. I do hope the judges were smart enough to slap them up side the head a few times |
| 01:34.20 | GPLGeek | it doesn't say "lease this music" it says buy |
| 01:34.30 | hermit2 | no kidding |
| 01:34.32 | GPLGeek | its vague and illegal, and not fair |
| 01:35.44 | hermit2 | I liked the little notice inside the small radio/cd player/cassette player I got. made by sony ... they can't garuntee that all discs will work due to drm |
| 01:35.55 | GPLGeek | yep |
| 01:35.58 | GPLGeek | hardware locking |
| 01:36.02 | GPLGeek | that's how they do it. |
| 01:36.10 | hermit2 | can't put that on the outside of the box though |
| 01:36.15 | GPLGeek | only top few companies can afford drm licences |
| 01:36.47 | GPLGeek | I stopped buying music, except for open artists |
| 01:37.15 | hermit2 | needless to say I am not thrilled with the way things are going for music |
| 01:37.16 | GPLGeek | magnatune.com has fair licencing last I checked |
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| 01:38.15 | GPLGeek | Like NoFX sais, the music industry is pre-history and not evolving, they are just trying to kill as many as they can before they die out. |
| 01:38.39 | hermit2 | I guess.. course movies are just as bad |
| 01:39.04 | GPLGeek | or worse |
| 01:39.12 | Thybo | hmm |
| 01:39.18 | Thybo | i dont know whata doooo |
| 01:39.18 | GPLGeek | only 3-5 people can watch at once if you have a big tv? wtf is up with that |
| 01:39.34 | hermit2 | where do they come up with this shit |
| 01:39.37 | GPLGeek | you can be thrown in jail for letting 6 or more people look at your tv |
| 01:39.42 | GPLGeek | the lobby |
| 01:39.50 | Thybo | lol |
| 01:39.51 | GPLGeek | the lobby can extend the vote in congress until they get they vote they want |
| 01:40.04 | GPLGeek | they threaten or bribe their way through it |
| 01:40.26 | hermit2 | why can't people just say no |
| 01:40.33 | Thybo | coz money money money |
| 01:40.51 | hermit2 | and isn't that behavior illegal... why don't they get arrested |
| 01:41.05 | GPLGeek | America is for sale, and you can get a good deal, just like the RX , Oil, Music, Movie, and other idiots if you have enough money. |
| 01:41.34 | hermit2 | ya while the rest of us poor shmucks get trampled on |
| 01:41.37 | GPLGeek | DRM violates DRM, Record companies, Movie companies violate DRM |
| 01:41.42 | GPLGeek | why can't we throw them in a cell |
| 01:41.50 | Thybo | heehe |
| 01:41.50 | GPLGeek | money |
| 01:41.55 | hermit2 | we don't have money |
| 01:42.01 | Thybo | hehe |
| 01:42.06 | Thybo | i willll |
| 01:42.09 | GPLGeek | Microsoft loves the DRM 55% of vista is drm |
| 01:42.10 | Thybo | im gonna be rich |
| 01:42.11 | Thybo | and famous |
| 01:42.23 | GPLGeek | the rest is broken promices and substandard features |
| 01:42.42 | hermit2 | I don't think there will be changes until whole states stand up and say no. |
| 01:43.24 | hermit2 | pockets of people here and there isn't enough. |
| 01:43.42 | Thybo | im gonna try this never done it before |
| 01:44.01 | Thybo | remove my comp with linux on.... from its base |
| 01:44.18 | hermit2 | there are several states with strong cedition movements like vermont |
| 01:46.16 | Thybo | anyways |
| 01:46.21 | Thybo | heellllppp |
| 01:46.33 | hermit2 | well, don't drop it |
| 01:46.39 | Thybo | lol |
| 01:47.23 | Thybo | so nobody can help me with my network manager? |
| 01:47.54 | hermit2 | I can't, Its something i haven't done yet |
| 01:48.19 | Thybo | lol |
| 01:48.37 | Thybo | but its just weeiiirdooo |
| 01:48.37 | Thybo | ok |
| 01:48.37 | Thybo | be back in 10 |
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| 03:14.04 | Tacuabe | hi |
| 03:14.10 | LinuxNIT | hello Tacuabe |
| 03:14.42 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, do u have skype? |
| 03:14.48 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 03:15.00 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, why not? |
| 03:15.06 | LinuxNIT | why should i? |
| 03:15.28 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, u'll get to talk to alot of friends 'including me :)' |
| 03:15.39 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 03:15.47 | LinuxNIT | i have a cell phone to talk to my friends with :) |
| 03:15.58 | LinuxNIT | besides i dont have a real mic |
| 03:16.11 | PrinceAMD | damn it |
| 03:17.37 | LinuxNIT | how are you doing Tacuabe ? |
| 03:18.14 | Tacuabe | LinuxNIT, doing what? |
| 03:18.25 | LinuxNIT | how are you? |
| 03:18.29 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 03:18.43 | Tacuabe | muy bien |
| 03:19.58 | Tacuabe | very well |
| 03:20.37 | LinuxNIT | :) |
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| 04:38.03 | elmo40 | PrinceAMD: i use skype, can i be your friend? :-P |
| 04:38.28 | Gwildor_ | elmo40, ill add ya next time i launch it |
| 04:38.32 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: I can not believe Americans are that stupid! |
| 04:38.33 | Gwildor_ | err, not even installed now |
| 04:42.55 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: There will never be enough of a 'collective' Americans to battle 'their' gov't. They dont have the money to organize it!! |
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| 04:55.01 | GPLGeek | elmo40, um |
| 04:55.10 | GPLGeek | the problem is its not just Americans |
| 04:55.29 | GPLGeek | its multi-national corporations buying American political leaders |
| 04:56.14 | GPLGeek | in such a system you are forced to corrupt or you will be killed (see kenedy), or opposed, or your party will eject you. |
| 04:56.51 | GPLGeek | this is why the vast majority of the independant party likes the second ammendment, because people have tried to kill them when they get big in politics |
| 04:57.58 | GPLGeek | A few of my friends have been sent to prison due to some asshole political leader or DA who wants to advance wrongfully accusing/convicting them with no evidence. |
| 04:58.47 | Gwildor_ | welcome to america |
| 04:59.10 | GPLGeek | See the Stephanie Crowe case, Aaron Houser was one of my best friends growing up. Put in prison even though a homeless man, with a bloody teeshirt was at the scene, with mental problems, and his evidence was all over the scene |
| 04:59.51 | GPLGeek | A police officer's wife was shot at when the police officer tried to blow the whistle about the DA railroading Aaron and the victems brother, and also the other police tortured them brutally. |
| 05:00.36 | GPLGeek | Aaron houser was sexually molested, and beaten, and put under a hot lamp that ended up burning him, deprived of sleep for days on end, and otherwise abused |
| 05:00.50 | GPLGeek | thx Thanatermesis |
| 05:01.04 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, that SUCKS? |
| 05:04.46 | elmo40 | and they say America is 'civilized' |
| 05:04.58 | elmo40 | now with the Patriot act, they can do anything withought just-cause! |
| 05:07.51 | GPLGeek | Thanatermesis, looking at your script I've figured out how to fix a bug in one of mine =p |
| 05:08.02 | GPLGeek | I had forgot to > /dev/null something |
| 05:08.44 | GPLGeek | elmo40, for the most part yes America is civilized, and for the most part we are very kind people who can do Amazing things. |
| 05:08.59 | GPLGeek | there is a power structure at the top that seems invisible to many Americans. |
| 05:09.11 | GPLGeek | It needs to go. |
| 05:09.37 | GPLGeek | Most Americans are smart, anyone can go around with a camera and get people to say stupid things, you can find idiots anywhere. |
| 05:11.23 | GPLGeek | we need to fix 1) Money Powered Government, 2) Stop putting up with black people being so god damn racist and vile. For that matter dont tolerate anyone doing that. Free speech is free speech but we dont have to pay them or give them attention, 3) TALK with other countries more. And have our leadership connect with it's citizens too. |
| 05:12.03 | GPLGeek | Because right now people dont know that racism is wrong. |
| 05:13.07 | GPLGeek | I've got a black friend that's been attacked for being "too white" because he's smart and does not make stupid choices. There are more "minorities" than "whites" why should everything be blamed on us? |
| 05:13.36 | GPLGeek | We are not creating the culture gangsters. Many of us are supporting it by buying the movies and albums. |
| 05:13.42 | GPLGeek | so yes, its a whole social problem |
| 05:14.01 | GPLGeek | long story short no country is perfect, and for the most part America is great. |
| 05:15.04 | GPLGeek | We were the first ones to start to combat the world bank's African rape. The problem is when we started to attack the WT/WB some of the largest money holders went to other countries, so then America's actual stake in the bank was less and they did not listen to us |
| 05:15.20 | GPLGeek | and now with the deficit we have almost no say. |
| 05:15.32 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: how do you 'fix' a money hungry gov't? People VOTE them in!!! and there is no 'room' for independents. |
| 05:16.17 | GPLGeek | Clinton had set up a very stable country, but left lies in office for the next president. |
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| 05:16.34 | GPLGeek | people need to go indipendant, and stop giving money to demo's and also we are seeing how most of the democrats would rather vote for john mccain than hillary or obama |
| 05:16.36 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: deficit means what you spend is more then what you make, debt is what you OWE! |
| 05:16.46 | GPLGeek | At least in the north bay the polls say that and we are generally really liberal |
| 05:17.02 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, im a dem, i guess, and im voting obama |
| 05:17.41 | GPLGeek | I thought Obama was ok at first, because I didn't just read the papers that said "hate him for no reason at all" So I started reading up on him. |
| 05:17.54 | GPLGeek | I found out some very horrid things about how he would run the country and how he would treat people. |
| 05:18.14 | GPLGeek | I'd rather have McCain because he's open, fair, would OPEN TALKS TO OTHER COUNTRIES WITH A SANE AND STABLE MIND |
| 05:18.41 | GPLGeek | and McCain has often been pissed on by his political parties because he wanted whats best for the country not whats best for the corporations |
| 05:19.12 | GPLGeek | And he is very stategic minded, being in the military, but does not want to start any fights or torture people. He wont stand for that. |
| 05:20.40 | GPLGeek | McCain is not for sale, will not do what any party says if it will hurt his country, and loves his country. Can't really find that in any other candidate. |
| 05:22.14 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: the words politician and fair are NEVER in the same sentence! |
| 05:23.37 | GPLGeek | A lot of people can sit around and hate America, they can not register to vote and not change anything, or they can be like me and see a future for the country. |
| 05:23.46 | GPLGeek | we are at the end of the 2 party system and it shows. |
| 05:24.34 | GPLGeek | I really want whole nation health care. |
| 05:24.41 | elmo40 | well, the senate, or the house will remain 2-party forever! That is how they stay in power! |
| 05:24.51 | elmo40 | then move to Canada :-P Or Denmark |
| 05:24.58 | GPLGeek | it would be cheaper than our current solution by subsidising hospitles for the most expensive treatment when people dont pay |
| 05:25.08 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, agreed |
| 05:25.14 | GPLGeek | and using shady drug company deals to funnel tens of billions of dollars out of the economy |
| 05:25.18 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, also, if we dont ahve money for universal healthcare.... |
| 05:25.29 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, WHERE THE FUCK DID WE GET 5BILLION A MONTH FOR A WAR!!! |
| 05:25.31 | GPLGeek | it saves more money that it costs |
| 05:26.19 | GPLGeek | if we fixed the medical care, tax code, and illegal drug problems.... well the country would be too stable to make money off of |
| 05:26.23 | GPLGeek | think about it |
| 05:27.07 | GPLGeek | make weed legal, not only does weed produce more oxygen than any other plant in the world (other than 2 in the rainforest), but it can be turned into clean fuel, fabric, rope, a ton of other stuff. |
| 05:27.26 | Gwildor_ | it cures cancer! |
| 05:27.32 | Gwildor_ | also good pain releiver |
| 05:27.51 | GPLGeek | secure the borders, make a foriegn work program where people are documented, taxed, and half their pay is heald, so they must go back to their country before they could get the other half |
| 05:28.05 | GPLGeek | that way they can go back to mexico and have something they need to invest in |
| 05:28.20 | GPLGeek | if there was less drug trade, and more mexicans in mexico, they will build a infrastructure |
| 05:28.22 | Gwildor_ | thats...brilliant.. |
| 05:28.27 | GPLGeek | mexico has EVERYTHING it needs to self-sustain |
| 05:28.28 | Gwildor_ | i think that IS something we need.. |
| 05:28.40 | Gwildor_ | incentives for people to actually register.. |
| 05:28.49 | Gwildor_ | right now, its more trouble than its worth |
| 05:28.56 | GPLGeek | Gwildor_ McCain was looking in to all that stuff. |
| 05:29.00 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: no it doesnt... all the companies there are american, bypassing the U.S. Tax system!!! And, polluting like a MOFO |
| 05:29.06 | GPLGeek | waiting to see what he has to say |
| 05:29.32 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, really... 'im vooting for obama'... id rather vote for obama, and get him in... then vote for mcain, and have hillary win.. |
| 05:29.39 | Gwildor_ | hillary might as well be republican |
| 05:29.42 | GPLGeek | elmo40, a lot of it has been cleaned up but yes its horrid, some cities with factories give people lead poisoning, dirty water, etc |
| 05:29.42 | GPLGeek | but |
| 05:30.01 | elmo40 | ya, lead poisoning by breathing the air! :/ |
| 05:30.08 | GPLGeek | if they had to go back to mexico after working in USA they would build it to be nice |
| 05:30.29 | GPLGeek | but im talking about the farms and stuff state-side as far as the work program |
| 05:30.58 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: that border fence was just a stupid idea. costinng SOOOO much money! |
| 05:31.13 | elmo40 | but i am off... later! |
| 05:31.34 | GPLGeek | My plan means mexicans register, come across the boarder, have common housing to stay in where they can get basic care, medical insurance, etc. They get paid half and hafl goes into a savings for them so they have to go back to mexico to take the rest out |
| 05:31.37 | GPLGeek | it would be great |
| 05:31.52 | GPLGeek | because they would come here, work, be taken care of, have places to stay instead of under bridges |
| 05:31.55 | Gwildor_ | sorta.. |
| 05:31.58 | Gwildor_ | because.. |
| 05:31.58 | GPLGeek | it would be worth it to register |
| 05:32.04 | Gwildor_ | people would still not register.. |
| 05:32.10 | Gwildor_ | not pay taxes, get all the money.. |
| 05:32.14 | Gwildor_ | and get healthcare anyways |
| 05:32.19 | Gwildor_ | same way it si now |
| 05:32.21 | Gwildor_ | is |
| 05:32.21 | GPLGeek | if we made weed legal, and then attacked people crossing the boarder |
| 05:32.30 | GPLGeek | more inner city raids |
| 05:32.34 | GPLGeek | we would have to put the work program up first |
| 05:32.35 | GPLGeek | also |
| 05:32.42 | GPLGeek | we need to get rid of anchor babies |
| 05:32.46 | Gwildor_ | well, another good idea... |
| 05:33.02 | GPLGeek | we can't just let anyone born in America be a citizen, if they are coming here just to make them a citizen, thats wrong |
| 05:33.08 | GPLGeek | that's exploiting the system |
| 05:33.13 | Gwildor_ | 'welcome to the hospital, do you have your papers?... no?.... SECURITY'... DEPORTED! |
| 05:33.19 | Gwildor_ | meh...not really.. |
| 05:33.23 | Gwildor_ | thats a baby tax payer |
| 05:33.23 | GPLGeek | no |
| 05:33.28 | GPLGeek | take them at the hospitle. |
| 05:33.42 | GPLGeek | but have one delivery room mexican territory |
| 05:33.47 | GPLGeek | get it? |
| 05:33.51 | GPLGeek | born in mexico |
| 05:33.55 | Gwildor_ | heh |
| 05:33.57 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 05:33.59 | Gwildor_ | hahaha |
| 05:34.04 | GPLGeek | nah, just change the law, its easier |
| 05:34.07 | Gwildor_ | thats...a smart ass thing to do... :P |
| 05:34.37 | Gwildor_ | what i think is bullshit is... people living here for 15 years....not having any papers..... |
| 05:34.42 | Gwildor_ | STILL DONT KNOW ENGLISH! |
| 05:35.00 | Gwildor_ | could you imagine living in japan for 20 years...and never learning japanese? |
| 05:35.02 | GPLGeek | a USA baby MUST have a USA parent, or in extreme cases be in the adoption system. |
| 05:35.27 | Gwildor_ | yeah, just 'adopt' your parents citizenship.. |
| 05:35.31 | Gwildor_ | but, what happens.. |
| 05:35.40 | Gwildor_ | mom is AMERICAN, dad is mexican? |
| 05:35.44 | Gwildor_ | kid is american |
| 05:35.47 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 05:35.51 | Gwildor_ | dad is american, mom is mexican.. |
| 05:35.57 | Gwildor_ | kid is mexican? |
| 05:36.01 | GPLGeek | no |
| 05:36.06 | GPLGeek | the father is American |
| 05:36.08 | GPLGeek | if they can prove it |
| 05:36.34 | GPLGeek | so the kid would be USA citizen |
| 05:36.44 | Gwildor_ | ok.. |
| 05:36.50 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek for president.. |
| 05:36.51 | GPLGeek | that way it still doesn't split up families |
| 05:36.55 | Gwildor_ | can i be VP :D |
| 05:37.05 | GPLGeek | No you voted for Obama |
| 05:37.08 | Gwildor_ | HAHAHA |
| 05:37.13 | Gwildor_ | tbh, im not voting.. |
| 05:37.16 | Gwildor_ | well, not really |
| 05:37.20 | Gwildor_ | im selling my vote on ebay |
| 05:37.24 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 05:37.29 | GPLGeek | illegal |
| 05:37.34 | Gwildor_ | no tis not |
| 05:37.35 | Gwildor_ | its |
| 05:37.38 | Gwildor_ | its MY vote |
| 05:37.43 | Gwildor_ | i can do what i want |
| 05:37.51 | GPLGeek | its voter fraud |
| 05:38.00 | Gwildor_ | nope |
| 05:38.10 | Gwildor_ | you pay me... tell me who to vote for. i go vote for them |
| 05:38.14 | Gwildor_ | 100% legit |
| 05:38.23 | Gwildor_ | that what happens every election anyways |
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| 05:39.00 | Gwildor_ | john Q. coporation buys votes for who they want |
| 05:39.25 | GPLGeek | If you did try this, apparently you'd be committing a felony in violation of "both federal and state laws", and potentially face jail time. |
| 05:39.32 | Gwildor_ | why? |
| 05:39.40 | Gwildor_ | how about a sell a pencil, and a postcard. |
| 05:39.41 | GPLGeek | I have 30+ cases in the united states of people being convicted |
| 05:39.51 | Gwildor_ | convicted fo what? |
| 05:39.53 | Gwildor_ | of |
| 05:39.57 | Gwildor_ | its MY vote.. |
| 05:39.59 | GPLGeek | 4 people spent time for selling votes on ebay |
| 05:40.06 | Gwildor_ | what was the charge? |
| 05:40.12 | Gwildor_ | how about a sell a pencil, and a postcard. |
| 05:40.32 | Gwildor_ | with this pencil, you write a name on the postcard, and mail it back to me :D :D :D |
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| 05:41.22 | Gwildor_ | its all in the verbage.. |
| 05:41.42 | Gwildor_ | "for $100, you can convince me to vote for ______" |
| 05:41.56 | Gwildor_ | isnt that what debates and news story's are? |
| 05:42.01 | Gwildor_ | should thsoe be illegal? |
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| 05:42.43 | Thybo | lol |
| 05:42.45 | Thybo | nope |
| 05:42.50 | Thybo | as long as money comes in hehe |
| 05:43.14 | Gwildor_ | ill be sure to pay tax's on the money i make on ebay... |
| 05:43.17 | Gwildor_ | then its ok :P |
| 05:43.25 | Thybo | lol |
| 05:43.43 | GPLGeek | quote Vote buyers should beware as well. Such political purchases violate federal law and can lead to five-year prison sentences. The practice is also illegal in Marylandand 47 other states |
| 05:43.57 | Gwildor_ | why is it illegal? |
| 05:43.59 | Thybo | hehe |
| 05:44.07 | Thybo | dont give money |
| 05:44.09 | GPLGeek | its against voter code |
| 05:44.09 | Thybo | give presents |
| 05:44.13 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, isnt that unconstitutional? |
| 05:44.17 | Thybo | lol |
| 05:44.17 | Gwildor_ | its MY vote.. |
| 05:44.27 | GPLGeek | it is your vote |
| 05:44.30 | GPLGeek | but its not yours to sell |
| 05:44.40 | Gwildor_ | thats the same thing as a guy standing there saying "you can vote for him... him either" |
| 05:44.56 | Gwildor_ | can't* |
| 05:45.01 | GPLGeek | selling it is counts of consipracy and voter fraud as well as violating election code to the tune of 2500$ and 2 years in prison in most states |
| 05:45.14 | Gwildor_ | i will still do the voting.. |
| 05:45.31 | Gwildor_ | not the person who 'buys' it votes twice |
| 05:45.44 | Gwildor_ | if thats how i want to spend MY vote...i should be able to.. |
| 05:45.51 | Thybo | lol |
| 05:45.53 | GPLGeek | should or legally able? |
| 05:45.57 | Thybo | u don't actually spend |
| 05:46.01 | Thybo | u win hehe |
| 05:46.01 | GPLGeek | ebay will pull your auction and perma ban you |
| 05:46.04 | Gwildor_ | lemme guess, we didnt get to vote on those laws |
| 05:46.05 | GPLGeek | as well as ban you from papal |
| 05:46.25 | Thybo | so create accounts for this hehe |
| 05:46.50 | Gwildor_ | this country is shit as long as corporate-america is the people who run this country.. |
| 05:47.01 | GPLGeek | true |
| 05:47.06 | Gwildor_ | 'real' people need control, or its not going anywhere |
| 05:47.09 | GPLGeek | then why would you sell your vote |
| 05:47.20 | GPLGeek | Exactly Gwildor |
| 05:47.29 | Gwildor_ | why, cuz corporate america runs this country, always will |
| 05:47.32 | GPLGeek | do you think I'd take a 6M$ bribe if it meant hurting my counry? |
| 05:47.34 | Gwildor_ | no matter who wins the election |
| 05:47.35 | GPLGeek | no |
| 05:47.38 | Gwildor_ | WE |
| 05:47.41 | Gwildor_ | ARE |
| 05:47.42 | Gwildor_ | FUCKED |
| 05:47.47 | Gwildor_ | no matter who wins |
| 05:47.51 | Gwildor_ | so it doesnt matter anyways |
| 05:47.55 | Gwildor_ | trust me. |
| 05:47.59 | GPLGeek | we need to ban elections from TV |
| 05:48.19 | GPLGeek | and make it illegal to attack the candidates, instead of just debating |
| 05:48.27 | GPLGeek | and make it illegal to lie aobut them |
| 05:48.41 | Gwildor_ | the minute someone 'for the people' gets elected, corporate america will bomb the economy on purpose, and get someone 'pro-corporation' back in office |
| 05:48.54 | GPLGeek | you dont see commercials saying "dont buy apples, they make your penis fall off, buy doritos instead" |
| 05:49.02 | Gwildor_ | good point |
| 05:49.04 | Gwildor_ | agrred |
| 05:49.04 | GPLGeek | but anyone can say anything about a political candidate |
| 05:50.55 | Gwildor_ | btw, R are 'pro-corporation', so, i woulndt jump on his boat |
| 05:51.20 | Gwildor_ | killary is pro-war.. |
| 05:51.30 | Gwildor_ | jsut vote for me, call it a day |
| 05:51.37 | Gwildor_ | pencil in 'gwildor' |
| 05:51.55 | GPLGeek | I'm thinking altruistically, I'd be sacrificing myself if I were to lead the country. I'd do it though. |
| 05:52.27 | Thybo | :d |
| 05:52.27 | Gwildor_ | GQ: Then how can you support sending the military on a mission that the American people don’t support? |
| 05:52.27 | Gwildor_ | MCCAIN: Because I know what’s best for the security of this nation. And if we don’t show signs of success, the American public will force us to pull out. |
| 05:52.27 | Gwildor_ | yeah... great guy to lead the country. |
| 05:52.28 | Thybo | thats coz u didn't see the last 24 hour episode |
| 05:52.33 | Gwildor_ | 'i dont care what they say, ill do what i want' |
| 05:52.33 | GPLGeek | It's not that I want to be the American Jesus, savior to all, it's just that I'm pissed off and want to even the playing field |
| 05:52.34 | GPLGeek | even if it cost me |
| 05:52.38 | Gwildor_ | sounds like a bush to me |
| 05:53.00 | GPLGeek | Gwildor, you have no idea |
| 05:53.17 | Gwildor_ | that is a direct quote |
| 05:53.23 | Gwildor_ | how can i have no idea? |
| 05:53.24 | GPLGeek | They have changed the tactics in Iraq and if we just pull out it's going to be worse than if we stay. |
| 05:53.34 | Gwildor_ | whats going to be worse? |
| 05:53.37 | GPLGeek | if you think we should just pull out right now |
| 05:53.37 | Thybo | hm |
| 05:53.37 | Gwildor_ | 'it' |
| 05:53.42 | Gwildor_ | wtf is 'it'? |
| 05:53.47 | Thybo | the general in place in iraq is a great man though |
| 05:53.53 | Thybo | a really fantastic commander |
| 05:53.58 | GPLGeek | we should not have gone in. |
| 05:53.59 | Thybo | i don't think there could be a better one |
| 05:54.06 | Gwildor_ | also, a general who wants out |
| 05:54.09 | Thybo | but now he's got to clean the mess that is gonna be hard |
| 05:54.13 | GPLGeek | sure Saddam was an ass, sure he was killing his own people, sure he was torturing people |
| 05:54.33 | GPLGeek | That's why we are not in sudan, darfor province, 23 other locations. |
| 05:54.46 | GPLGeek | the world doesn't want us to fix morally wrong people. |
| 05:54.52 | Gwildor_ | i say leave... they want us out.. america wants us out... |
| 05:54.56 | GPLGeek | they dont want us to help or stop genocide |
| 05:54.58 | Gwildor_ | let them fuck themselves. |
| 05:55.02 | Thybo | hehe |
| 05:55.02 | Thybo | yeah |
| 05:55.04 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, why should we? |
| 05:55.13 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, why cant we mind our own business? |
| 05:55.19 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek> they dont want us to help or stop genocide |
| 05:55.22 | Thybo | i wonder when thy are gonna go after the communists dictators that do have weapons of mass destruction |
| 05:55.26 | Gwildor_ | i thought we were getting WMD's |
| 05:55.26 | Thybo | or the koreans |
| 05:55.28 | Thybo | oh darn |
| 05:55.29 | Thybo | no petrol |
| 05:55.30 | Thybo | :p |
| 05:55.32 | Gwildor_ | or stopping terrorism? |
| 05:55.34 | GPLGeek | A Iraqi came into elive channel for the first time a few months ago and said how thankful he was that Americans were freeing them and giving them structure. |
| 05:55.45 | GPLGeek | we can mind our own busines |
| 05:55.51 | GPLGeek | McCain wont attack any other countries |
| 05:55.58 | GPLGeek | he just wont pull out |
| 05:55.59 | Thybo | lol |
| 05:56.05 | Thybo | hopefully |
| 05:56.16 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, fact of the matter is... the war is 1 giant lie... |
| 05:56.20 | GPLGeek | at this point it would be our fault if we pulled out, we know whats going to happen |
| 05:56.27 | Gwildor_ | GPLGeek, i would be ok, if the president did what he wanted... |
| 05:56.33 | Gwildor_ | he jsut needs to be honest about it. |
| 05:56.41 | Gwildor_ | what would be our fault? |
| 05:56.43 | Gwildor_ | what would happen? |
| 05:56.45 | GPLGeek | McCain is honest about it, we should not have been here he's said that |
| 05:56.59 | Gwildor_ | a country, that isnt ours, that was fucked to begin with, will be fucked? |
| 05:57.02 | GPLGeek | hes not just going to pull out and leave iran to sloughter them and take their land |
| 05:57.06 | Gwildor_ | sounds like a win/win to leave |
| 05:57.42 | GPLGeek | they will regroup and attack us, after they kill a lot of their own, they will also attack neighbors that are us friendly |
| 05:57.56 | GPLGeek | sounds like that would be another brick in the wall to start WW3 |
| 05:57.59 | Gwildor_ | i hate to tell you.. |
| 05:58.04 | GPLGeek | its a frikkin powder keg |
| 05:58.07 | Gwildor_ | not troops will storm us soil, not happening |
| 05:58.16 | Gwildor_ | no troops * |
| 05:58.22 | Gwildor_ | no one will bring troops here.. |
| 05:58.33 | Gwildor_ | ur crazy if you think they will |
| 05:58.34 | Thybo | he doesnt watch 24 either |
| 05:58.37 | Thybo | sight |
| 05:58.39 | GPLGeek | Except Mexico |
| 05:58.42 | GPLGeek | they have |
| 05:58.46 | GPLGeek | and do quite often |
| 05:58.46 | Gwildor_ | when? |
| 05:58.51 | Gwildor_ | to fight us? |
| 05:58.53 | GPLGeek | 2003 2005 2006 |
| 05:58.54 | GPLGeek | yes |
| 05:58.58 | Gwildor_ | we at war with mexico? |
| 05:59.03 | Thybo | u were |
| 05:59.07 | GPLGeek | no, it was a conflict |
| 05:59.09 | Thybo | couple hundred years ago :p |
| 05:59.11 | GPLGeek | no war declared |
| 05:59.16 | Thybo | hmm |
| 05:59.16 | GPLGeek | you guys dont know about this? |
| 05:59.20 | Thybo | i think yes |
| 05:59.22 | Gwildor_ | why?...what happened? |
| 05:59.35 | Gwildor_ | the mexicans made it to atlanta... |
| 05:59.36 | GPLGeek | Mexican Military attacked boarder patrol because we would not let them smuggle drugs through |
| 05:59.38 | Gwildor_ | and got destroyed! |
| 05:59.51 | GPLGeek | commanded by Vincinte Fox one time, and high ranking generals other times. |
| 06:00.01 | Gwildor_ | oh...that was during bush's control.. |
| 06:00.03 | GPLGeek | We actually "retreated but tracked their movement" to avoid a crisis. |
| 06:00.07 | Gwildor_ | why is the border still open again? |
| 06:00.09 | GPLGeek | both bushes |
| 06:00.16 | Gwildor_ | oh.. the R have to keep the corporations happy |
| 06:00.58 | Gwildor_ | why is it 'bad' for mexico to do, what we do in iraq? |
| 06:00.58 | GPLGeek | you see they would be forced to elect a good govt and fix mexico if they had mexicans in mexico |
| 06:01.09 | GPLGeek | there are more south americans in mexico than central americans |
| 06:01.23 | Gwildor_ | we have americans in america... we dont have a good government... why arent we forced? |
| 06:02.06 | GPLGeek | If we got enough people on the same page, with my ideas, I'm sure that we could fix America in a short amount of time. |
| 06:02.22 | Gwildor_ | dont vote republican, then |
| 06:02.37 | Gwildor_ | if you do, your ideas fail |
| 06:02.40 | Gwildor_ | thats another thing.. |
| 06:02.49 | Gwildor_ | you like mcCains views on the war.. |
| 06:02.56 | Gwildor_ | is he going to increase rich people tax's? |
| 06:03.06 | Gwildor_ | is he going to bring universal healthcare? |
| 06:03.11 | Gwildor_ | fix social security? |
| 06:03.20 | GPLGeek | he's better than any other candidate |
| 06:03.23 | Gwildor_ | or jsut fatten the pcokets of his lobyist supporters |
| 06:03.35 | Gwildor_ | again, no matter who wins, we are fucked |
| 06:03.40 | GPLGeek | He wants to attack the lobby |
| 06:03.46 | GPLGeek | and get the lobby out of congress |
| 06:04.51 | Gwildor_ | how much campaign funds has he gotten from lobbyists? |
| 06:04.51 | GPLGeek | he wants congress and cameras, no lobby members in the building |
| 06:04.51 | Gwildor_ | obama jsut returned $50,000 he got from lobyists |
| 06:04.51 | GPLGeek | That's why he got turned on and is not no longer getting support |
| 06:04.51 | GPLGeek | ya... |
| 06:04.51 | Gwildor_ | 'in the building' doesnt matter... |
| 06:04.51 | Gwildor_ | he still takes MONEY from lobbyists |
| 06:04.51 | GPLGeek | Obama is probably the best democrat runner. |
| 06:05.13 | Gwildor_ | McCain $$ == lobyist $$ == corporate $$ == corporate president == GPLGeek fails |
| 06:05.24 | Gwildor_ | its the way it is.. |
| 06:05.37 | GPLGeek | he still is not openly willing to dammage America |
| 06:05.37 | Gwildor_ | the vote of 'enron' is more important than the vote of the people.. |
| 06:05.48 | Gwildor_ | heh...thats the problem.. |
| 06:05.52 | Gwildor_ | 'openly'. |
| 06:06.14 | GPLGeek | I dont like Obamas racial flip flopping |
| 06:06.28 | Gwildor_ | ill vote hillary, before i vote a republican, and i wont vote for hillary |
| 06:06.43 | Gwildor_ | HE doesnt flip-flop.. media flip-flops him |
| 06:06.55 | GPLGeek | I would move to canada if hillary was elected |
| 06:06.59 | Gwildor_ | tbh, if he was an iraqi, id vote for him |
| 06:07.33 | Gwildor_ | republicans also get all the 'god' votes. |
| 06:07.42 | Gwildor_ | i beleive in seperation of church and state. |
| 06:07.55 | GPLGeek | who the fuck is this "god" they are selling their votes to |
| 06:08.05 | GPLGeek | has he even told them who to vote for |
| 06:08.23 | Gwildor_ | pretty much.. |
| 06:08.28 | Gwildor_ | thats why bush got re-elected |
| 06:08.53 | GPLGeek | Praise Jesus, As long as he goes to church hes forgiven every sunday |
| 06:08.57 | Gwildor_ | for the most part, if you are christian, you vote republican |
| 06:09.03 | GPLGeek | so hes only got 7 days of shit to be accountable for |
| 06:09.12 | Gwildor_ | your confusing me |
| 06:09.25 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 06:09.27 | GPLGeek | I meant to |
| 06:09.44 | GPLGeek | Im just saying they forgive him 1000 times per second |
| 06:09.56 | GPLGeek | instead of holding him accountable |
| 06:10.01 | GPLGeek | and hes a demi-god as it is |
| 06:10.14 | Gwildor_ | ask any 'crazy christian' you know or see on TV... $100 they are republican... |
| 06:10.31 | Gwildor_ | why.. 'republicans are better christians', end of story... no other reason. |
| 06:10.47 | GPLGeek | thats not totally ture |
| 06:10.49 | GPLGeek | maybe down south |
| 06:11.16 | Gwildor_ | i think, if you mention god in your campaign... DISQUALIFIED |
| 06:11.34 | GPLGeek | obama did |
| 06:11.38 | GPLGeek | just a day ago |
| 06:11.39 | Gwildor_ | they all do |
| 06:12.11 | GPLGeek | I think we should shoot everyone who takes money from the lobby as a traitor. |
| 06:12.22 | Gwildor_ | if hillary came out with an add.... having a black screen, with a white cross, for 30 seconds.... then it said 'vote for hillary' across the bottom... nothing more, thats it... 45 second add.. |
| 06:12.24 | GPLGeek | then replace them and say "if you do that, the same will happen to you" |
| 06:12.28 | Gwildor_ | ill bet you a million dollars she wins |
| 06:13.24 | GPLGeek | or a commercial "pray with me" "send me money" "Nascar rocks" "God bless you all" |
| 06:13.36 | GPLGeek | she would get 80% of the votes |
| 06:14.08 | Gwildor_ | i think that, all debates, and 'public promotion' of comapaigns should be paid for by the government.... all candidates get equal time.... any anyone who wants to run...can run |
| 06:14.20 | Gwildor_ | not jsut 'rich politicians' who 'kiss rich people ass' |
| 06:14.45 | GPLGeek | im going to go afk in a minute |
| 06:14.48 | GPLGeek | to watch a show for an hour |
| 06:14.50 | GPLGeek | so good night |
| 06:14.52 | Gwildor_ | yeah, im going to bed |
| 06:15.02 | GPLGeek | I know you will be gone when i come back, if i come back |
| 06:15.09 | Gwildor_ | yeah, im going now too |
| 06:15.12 | Gwildor_ | bedtime |
| 06:15.19 | Gwildor_ | 2:15, i have to get up at 6:30 |
| 06:15.21 | Gwildor_ | eek |
| 06:15.47 | Gwildor_ | goodnite |
| 06:16.27 | GPLGeek | yes have a good night |
| 06:16.31 | GPLGeek | debate is fun |
| 06:16.38 | Gwildor_ | :D, jsut making sure |
| 06:16.43 | Gwildor_ | some people get angry |
| 06:16.51 | Gwildor_ | i lost good friends this way.. |
| 06:16.58 | Gwildor_ | its america, we are allowed to disagree :P |
| 06:17.12 | Gwildor_ | LATERS! |
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| 11:23.50 | Mtraker | hi |
| 11:26.31 | wizard123 | hi Mtraker |
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| 11:28.33 | Mtraker | i'm install the new e17, but the "trasparenies" |
| 11:28.38 | Mtraker | sorry |
| 11:28.51 | Elive_user0 | hi guys, I'm a brand new elive user and am having trouble with two things and hoping for help. Where can I find the system tray and can I set up wpa protection? |
| 11:29.26 | Mtraker | i'm install the new e17, but the "trasparenties" don run in the first time, i need go elpanel and run that option |
| 11:29.59 | Gwildor_ | Mtraker, thats the way it is.. |
| 11:30.24 | Mtraker | but when i reboot i need make this other time |
| 11:30.52 | Gwildor_ | Mtraker, thats the way it is.. |
| 11:31.04 | Mtraker | why? |
| 11:31.23 | Gwildor_ | jsut is |
| 11:31.39 | Elive_user0 | can anyone help with my two problems? |
| 11:31.40 | Gwildor_ | new e17 doesnt have that option |
| 11:31.57 | Gwildor_ | Elive_user0, i have ot leave now, sorry |
| 11:32.12 | wizard123 | Elive_user0: i don't know much about wireless networks.. |
| 11:32.29 | Elive_user0 | I'm taking it system tray isn't easy right? |
| 11:32.30 | wizard123 | and e17 does not have any tray, you have to install some third-party software |
| 11:32.50 | wizard123 | like trayer for example |
| 11:32.52 | Mtraker | Gwildor, ok, thanks |
| 11:33.53 | roxville | Elive_user, there is really no systray in e17... |
| 11:34.13 | roxville | there are other ways...you use a module for that stuff |
| 11:34.25 | roxville | unfortunately, i don't use wifi at all |
| 11:34.25 | Elive_user0 | is there a way of getting a gui app for wpa that doesn't require that? the only ones I know of are network-manager, kwlan, wicd but they all put an applet in the sys tray which doesn't exist! |
| 11:35.08 | wizard123 | :D oops |
| 11:35.25 | roxville | like i said, i think the e17 module would handle that |
| 11:35.30 | wizard123 | you can install engage-module and enable it instead if ibar :] |
| 11:35.35 | roxville | but...it's just what i think... |
| 11:35.59 | Elive_user0 | su |
| 11:35.59 | roxville | you need to talk to user LinuxNIT or GPLGeek |
| 11:36.05 | Elive_user0 | oops sorry |
| 11:36.21 | Elive_user0 | Sorry to be dumb but how would I enable that instead of ibar? |
| 11:37.10 | wizard123 | 1. su |
| 11:37.14 | roxville | don't worry :) |
| 11:37.22 | Elive_user0 | its ok I've done it :) |
| 11:37.23 | wizard123 | 2. apt-get install engage-module |
| 11:37.28 | Elive_user0 | I'm learning :) |
| 11:37.32 | roxville | :) |
| 11:38.04 | Elive_user0 | I thought I'd be ok in here because I kind of know debian |
| 11:38.10 | Elive_user0 | but its different for some stuff |
| 11:38.11 | wizard123 | than, left click on desktop, configuration, config panel |
| 11:38.31 | roxville | Elive_user, you will be ok... you just have to kearn e17, that's all |
| 11:38.47 | wizard123 | than, module settings, disable ibar, enable engage |
| 11:38.51 | Elive_user0 | yea I'm thinking that, I'm enjoying the change |
| 11:38.53 | roxville | oops, Elive_user0 i mean |
| 11:38.57 | Elive_user0 | thanks wizard :) |
| 11:38.58 | wizard123 | configure engage, click -> tray and voila |
| 11:39.09 | wizard123 | tell me if it works for you |
| 11:39.13 | Elive_user0 | it did! |
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| 11:39.26 | roxville | good morning hermit2 :) |
| 11:39.41 | hermit2 | morning roxville |
| 11:40.02 | Elive_user0 | hermit2 your not a wireless expert are you? :P |
| 11:40.25 | hermit2 | No, I am not. I don't run wireless. |
| 11:40.55 | Elive_user0 | nevermind! |
| 11:40.56 | hermit2 | what is the problem though? |
| 11:41.19 | hermit2 | I know there is a new driver thijngy in the repos |
| 11:41.23 | Elive_user0 | I don't know how to setup wpa protection and I can't just turn it off because I'm in a shared house |
| 11:41.55 | hermit2 | hmm.. that is a good question |
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| 11:42.34 | Elive_user0 | I've just realised that the wpa_supplicant.conf file I tried to make.... I named wrong, man I'm thick sometimes! |
| 11:43.43 | hermit2 | its easy to do :) |
| 11:45.16 | wizard123 | :] |
| 11:45.33 | hermit2 | mornin' wizard123 |
| 11:45.40 | wizard123 | hi hermit2 |
| 11:46.47 | hermit2 | oh boy |
| 11:46.53 | wizard123 | what ? |
| 11:46.59 | wizard123 | did i say something wrong ? |
| 11:47.05 | hermit2 | lectures, |
| 11:47.30 | wizard123 | so how should i say it ? |
| 11:47.37 | hermit2 | sometimes they're good ... sometimes they aren't |
| 11:48.08 | roxville | http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2007/Fervent-Software-Studio-to-Go-2.html |
| 11:48.14 | roxville | this is pretty cool! |
| 11:48.33 | roxville | harmony central is one of THE MAJOR music news sites |
| 11:48.49 | roxville | for musicians and such people |
| 11:49.28 | hermit2 | You seen this roxville? http://www.savenetradio.org/ |
| 11:52.59 | roxville | don't think so... |
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| 11:54.12 | roxville | lol |
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| 11:54.59 | roxville | yeah, all the restrictions are really the big record companies having their final convulsions before dying |
| 11:55.46 | roxville | they have to start thinking in a new way... and that doesn't come easy to them |
| 11:56.05 | hermit2 | they want you to sign petitions to stop them from raising the rates |
| 11:56.33 | roxville | yes, and i will |
| 11:56.36 | roxville | :) |
| 11:56.52 | roxville | thank you for showing me this :) |
| 11:58.42 | hermit2 | GPLGeek linked me to this place... http://magnatune.com/ |
| 11:59.01 | hermit2 | They seem to have a good liceincing idea... |
| 11:59.22 | hermit2 | they just need more artists I think |
| 12:00.19 | roxville | ok |
| 12:00.39 | roxville | amiestreet.com is a pretty good place too |
| 12:03.51 | roxville | it's not radio, though... but formusicians to sell their music online |
| 12:06.41 | hermit2 | you can buy albums from magnatune. it has a place that explians different liciensing options for artists that want to put their stuff on there. |
| 12:07.39 | hermit2 | and the artist gets 50% of everything. I don't know if thats good or not. |
| 12:11.33 | roxville | hmmm... amiestreet and tunecore.com take less, i think |
| 12:12.08 | roxville | you pay them 99c/song OR album for each itunes store you want it on |
| 12:12.19 | roxville | which is kinda cheap |
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| 12:12.41 | roxville | itunes/yahoo/whatever online music store |
| 12:12.41 | hermit2 | ya |
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| 12:16.06 | Detox_on_Server | hello alllll |
| 12:16.18 | hermit2 | hello |
| 12:16.24 | Detox_on_Server | hi |
| 12:16.27 | Detox_on_Server | how ya be? |
| 12:16.36 | hermit2 | I am good |
| 12:16.50 | Detox_on_Server | great |
| 12:17.07 | hermit2 | how are you? |
| 12:17.10 | Detox_on_Server | life is good |
| 12:17.36 | hermit2 | wonderful |
| 12:29.11 | Detox_on_Server | how ca I get ver 6.7? |
| 12:29.24 | Detox_on_Server | cant find a link to it |
| 12:29.46 | Detox_on_Server | have a laptop I want to experi,ment wtih |
| 12:35.34 | hermit2 | http://mirror.elivedev.org/isos/development/ |
| 12:36.01 | hermit2 | http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3958 |
| 12:36.13 | hermit2 | the second link is the torrent |
| 12:37.42 | Detox_on_Server | thanks |
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| 13:43.21 | Elive_user91 | Hi |
| 13:43.56 | Elive_user91 | Does anyone know where to get the isos for macbook? Preferably 0.67 |
| 13:49.24 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user91, ask in #elivemac |
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| 14:00.47 | Maximiliano | hola gente / hello all |
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| 14:46.53 | vijaypc | hi all |
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| 14:58.28 | Detox_on_Server | hi |
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| 15:31.06 | hermit2 | has anyone else noticed that the pcmanfm that was said to replace thunar in 0.6.7 isn't installed? |
| 15:36.54 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, i think to you are using the old 0.6.7 |
| 15:37.16 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, see in the menus Utils -> FileManagers, what is the name of the thunar icon ? "thunar" or "file manager" ? |
| 15:37.36 | hermit2 | umm.. I had gotten a newer one from GPLGeek |
| 15:37.46 | hermit2 | and yes the file icon is named thunar |
| 15:38.01 | Thanatermesis | its the old then |
| 15:38.34 | hermit2 | hmm |
| 15:38.46 | Thanatermesis | uh |
| 15:38.50 | Thanatermesis | http://mirror.elivedev.org/isos/development/elive_0.6.7_unstable.md5 |
| 15:38.54 | Thanatermesis | he needs to update the isos |
| 15:39.26 | hermit2 | oh. because mine does match his md5 |
| 15:40.07 | hermit2 | where should I send people asking for 0.6.7? |
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| 15:47.46 | Thanatermesis | sigh |
| 15:47.50 | Thanatermesis | Elive needs mirrors fixed |
| 15:49.33 | hermit2 | I wish I could help. |
| 15:54.17 | hermit2 | what is needed to either fix the mirrors or be one? |
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| 15:56.17 | Mtraker | hi |
| 15:56.35 | Mtraker | i need help with blender... crash in 0.6.7 |
| 15:56.41 | Mtraker | I've ati |
| 15:56.52 | Mtraker | crash in radeon and fglrx |
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| 16:01.15 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:01.23 | Thybo | blender always crashed me :) |
| 16:01.28 | Thybo | i got a radeon too |
| 16:02.33 | PrinceAMD | somone please test this and tell me what yah see ftp://princeamd.gpkgeek.com |
| 16:03.03 | Thybo | Server not found |
| 16:03.03 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.05 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.07 | PrinceAMD | i await your reply |
| 16:03.07 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.09 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.11 | Thybo | Iceweasel can't find the server at princeamd.gpkgeek.com. |
| 16:03.13 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.15 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.16 | PrinceAMD | damn stop flooding |
| 16:03.17 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.19 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.21 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.25 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.27 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.28 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 16:03.29 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.31 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.33 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.35 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.39 | Thybo | isn't it gpLgeek? |
| 16:03.41 | Thybo | i would but theres nobody |
| 16:03.49 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 16:04.05 | hermit2 | ya, opera can't find the server |
| 16:04.41 | PrinceAMD | ftp://190.80.61.140 |
| 16:04.46 | PrinceAMD | try this |
| 16:05.10 | PrinceAMD | n http://princeamd.gplgeek.com:83 |
| 16:05.18 | hermit2 | graveworm |
| 16:05.46 | Thybo | ok |
| 16:05.52 | Thybo | there is a lousy picture |
| 16:06.03 | PrinceAMD | good :) |
| 16:06.04 | hermit2 | mp3's on the second link |
| 16:06.12 | PrinceAMD | gOOd!!! |
| 16:06.40 | PrinceAMD | i need subdomain for my ftp account |
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| 16:08.39 | Elive_user0 | Hi guys how do I add newly installed apps to the menu (and the dock?) |
| 16:09.19 | Thanatermesis | hermit2, @gobby |
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| 16:11.37 | Elive_user0 | can anyone help with my problem? |
| 16:12.22 | Thybo | yes |
| 16:12.26 | Thybo | what is the app? |
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| 16:13.06 | Elive_user0 | there are several, Wxmaxima, Kile, GAP, axiom, Qalculate, R, Maple9.5 (which is installed elsewhere) |
| 16:13.50 | Elive_user0 | oh and Inkscape |
| 16:14.32 | Ezep | what are u talking about? |
| 16:14.51 | Elive_user0 | adding the applications to the menu and the dock |
| 16:15.28 | Ezep | oh i see |
| 16:16.53 | Elive_user0 | Thybo: can you help? |
| 16:17.23 | Thybo | yes |
| 16:17.32 | Elive_user0 | will you? |
| 16:17.34 | Thybo | left click configuration |
| 16:17.36 | Thybo | eap editor |
| 16:18.09 | Elive_user0 | Ok, I've done that when I add in there it doesn't appear in menu |
| 16:18.15 | Elive_user0 | do I have to do something elsE? |
| 16:18.47 | Thybo | yes |
| 16:18.51 | Thybo | u have done that? |
| 16:19.00 | Elive_user0 | For one of them yes |
| 16:19.05 | Thybo | and saved to /home/user/.e/e/all/app |
| 16:19.28 | Elive_user0 | err??? I clicked apply and ok? how do I do that bit |
| 16:20.47 | Thybo | u have to opened "advanced" |
| 16:20.47 | Elive_user0 | I have lots of .eap files in there |
| 16:20.47 | Thybo | and in path |
| 16:20.48 | Thybo | put the path i gave u where the other eap's are |
| 16:21.19 | Thybo | ok? |
| 16:22.13 | Elive_user0 | ok done that, except the folder you gave me doesn't contain the files they're in home/calvin/.e/e/applications/all is that ok? |
| 16:22.31 | Thybo | yeah |
| 16:22.40 | Thybo | :) |
| 16:22.46 | Elive_user0 | ok I've done that, do I need to do anything else in there? |
| 16:22.47 | Thybo | user was for your user name |
| 16:22.59 | Thybo | ure name is calvin or its a calvin and hobbes thing? |
| 16:23.10 | Elive_user0 | yea its calvin :) |
| 16:24.03 | Thybo | ure name?:p |
| 16:24.09 | Elive_user0 | yep! |
| 16:24.25 | Elive_user0 | do I need to do anything else in this eap thing? |
| 16:24.30 | Thybo | no |
| 16:24.32 | Thybo | once u put |
| 16:24.33 | Thybo | the icon |
| 16:24.51 | Elive_user0 | I've done that, don't need anything in icon class right? |
| 16:24.52 | Thybo | the exec |
| 16:24.53 | Thybo | the name |
| 16:24.56 | Thybo | and save it |
| 16:25.01 | Thybo | thanu go to elpanel |
| 16:25.20 | Elive_user0 | ok I'm there |
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| 16:25.53 | Thybo | menu on the right (personal configuration) |
| 16:26.02 | Thybo | no look"n fell configuration |
| 16:26.16 | Elive_user0 | ok |
| 16:26.19 | Thybo | than 17 |
| 16:26.28 | Elive_user0 | yep |
| 16:26.31 | Thybo | than the icon in the middle that says entangle |
| 16:26.41 | Elive_user0 | ooooh |
| 16:26.51 | Elive_user0 | that looks good |
| 16:27.14 | Elive_user0 | sorry to be a pain, what next? |
| 16:27.22 | Thybo | well |
| 16:27.23 | Thybo | than |
| 16:27.24 | Thybo | u have |
| 16:27.37 | Thybo | i bar at the top |
| 16:27.37 | Thybo | or the mennu that open defautl |
| 16:27.42 | Thybo | u look for ure icon on the left |
| 16:27.48 | Thybo | and u take and drag it |
| 16:28.30 | Thybo | its by alfabetical order more or less |
| 16:28.34 | Elive_user0 | my icon isn't there :S |
| 16:28.49 | Thybo | u sure u put it |
| 16:28.52 | Thybo | u saved it |
| 16:29.00 | Elive_user0 | I clicked apply |
| 16:29.08 | Elive_user0 | was that right? I didn't see a save |
| 16:29.13 | Thybo | look if its in the folder all the others are |
| 16:29.21 | Thybo | yeah apply |
| 16:29.55 | Elive_user0 | Ok it hasn't gone in there |
| 16:30.02 | Thybo | well |
| 16:30.06 | Thybo | u got to do it again |
| 16:30.14 | Thybo | u did put in "path" that location right? |
| 16:30.24 | Elive_user0 | yes |
| 16:30.32 | Thybo | try it again |
| 16:30.35 | Thybo | save it in home |
| 16:30.39 | Thybo | than cut and paste it |
| 16:30.41 | Thybo | to se |
| 16:30.42 | Thybo | see |
| 16:31.48 | Thybo | but, Elive_user0 u got it? |
| 16:32.07 | Elive_user0 | it hasn't gone to my hoem directory either |
| 16:32.12 | Thybo | no? |
| 16:32.15 | Elive_user0 | I must be doing something stupid |
| 16:32.18 | Thybo | do u put an icone picutre? |
| 16:32.37 | Elive_user0 | I did yes, one I downloaded from the web though, could that be the issue? |
| 16:33.15 | Thybo | send it to me and tell me the name of the ap i'll try and do it |
| 16:33.49 | Elive_user0 | how do I send it to you? The app is called Kile, its in Synaptic |
| 16:34.05 | Elive_user0 | its ok I know how to send to you |
| 16:34.08 | Thybo | try and start the ap in command line |
| 16:34.50 | Elive_user0 | it opens fine from the terminal |
| 16:34.55 | Thybo | ok |
| 16:35.02 | Thybo | sent me the image |
| 16:35.06 | Thybo | and tell me the cli |
| 16:35.21 | Elive_user0 | yea, it says its waiting |
| 16:35.28 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:35.39 | Elive_user0 | can be installed with apt-get install kile and run with just kile |
| 16:35.40 | Thybo | i don't think u can send files coz ure not registered |
| 16:36.01 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:36.13 | Thybo | upload it on fileshak or something like that |
| 16:36.17 | Elive_user0 | http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/d/d4/64px-Kile.svg.png&imgrefurl=http://www.answers.com/topic/kile&h=64&w=64&sz=5&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=3nZ65kNBN0DTkM:&tbnh=64&tbnw=64&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkile%2Bicon%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN |
| 16:36.20 | Elive_user0 | I got it there! |
| 16:36.35 | Thybo | ok |
| 16:36.44 | Elive_user0 | (and saved as .png) |
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| 16:40.32 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:40.38 | Thybo | cant get it either weird |
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| 16:43.34 | Elive_user0 | ok nevermind, I know the basic process now, I'll fiddle! thanks for your help :) |
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| 16:51.28 | hermit2 | Bomb threats at my daughters school. |
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| 16:51.52 | Thybo | ? |
| 16:51.55 | Thybo | wow hermit2 :s |
| 16:52.53 | hermit2 | was written on a wall. they evacuated all the buildings and the police searched the place. |
| 16:53.11 | hermit2 | they didn't find anything and sent the kids back to class |
| 16:55.05 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:55.06 | Thybo | pff |
| 16:55.11 | Thybo | i hate people that do that |
| 16:55.54 | Thybo | especially in kids school :| |
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| 16:56.09 | hermit2 | indeed, especially after the virginia tech incident and the anniversary of columbine coming up |
| 16:56.30 | Thybo | be back in a sec |
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| 17:00.41 | Detox_on_Server | anyone lend a hand checking view of site? |
| 17:00.54 | Detox_on_Server | http://76.5.171.223 |
| 17:00.57 | GPLGeek | yarrrrr |
| 17:01.09 | GPLGeek | slow loading, you fail |
| 17:01.12 | Detox_on_Server | trying my hand at crating site |
| 17:01.14 | Detox_on_Server | ow |
| 17:01.15 | Detox_on_Server | ow |
| 17:01.22 | Detox_on_Server | is dsl line at office |
| 17:01.35 | GPLGeek | FAIL! |
| 17:01.36 | Detox_on_Server | but does is look "normal"? |
| 17:01.42 | GPLGeek | as in not-pass |
| 17:01.48 | hermit2 | works for me |
| 17:01.55 | GPLGeek | It looks like its loading slow =p |
| 17:02.01 | Detox_on_Server | yes no doubt |
| 17:02.06 | Detox_on_Server | not concerned about slow |
| 17:02.16 | Detox_on_Server | jsut need to know if it looks ok? |
| 17:02.24 | GPLGeek | Ya im jut messing with ya. I like it's layout |
| 17:02.45 | Detox_on_Server | ok so is not goobered up and format messed up |
| 17:02.47 | GPLGeek | search at the top is always good |
| 17:02.53 | Detox_on_Server | ok grat |
| 17:02.59 | GPLGeek | its plain text on white background for me |
| 17:03.01 | Detox_on_Server | now I can start putting my stuff in |
| 17:03.03 | GPLGeek | no images or color |
| 17:03.10 | GPLGeek | which is very nice |
| 17:03.38 | Detox_on_Server | need to find roxville to see how he substituted the main joomla logo for his pic |
| 17:03.41 | GPLGeek | actually syndicate is slightly off |
| 17:03.51 | GPLGeek | the title is on the left hand side of the screen |
| 17:03.52 | Detox_on_Server | but as long as it viewed ok th at is waht counts |
| 17:03.54 | Detox_on_Server | thanks |
| 17:03.56 | GPLGeek | right side is the links |
| 17:04.30 | hermit2 | I see black text on white background and lots of links. somethigs are still loadinglike the pics under the syndicate heading |
| 17:04.50 | Detox_on_Server | my bleeding edge 512k dsl at work |
| 17:05.33 | Detox_on_Server | syndicate is rss feeds.. I will dump thoes |
| 17:05.41 | Detox_on_Server | and put something else in |
| 17:05.51 | GPLGeek | rss is great to have especially on a news page |
| 17:06.06 | Detox_on_Server | but am glad the formatting is not all messed up ,, like text only scrolling down the left side fot he page |
| 17:06.28 | Detox_on_Server | this is a work site ,, no feeds i know of would be beneficial |
| 17:06.39 | Detox_on_Server | we are Substance Abuse counselors |
| 17:06.52 | Detox_on_Server | and case load is strictly those on probation / parole |
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| 17:07.13 | Detox_on_Server | so news feeds, i do not know of any that would be good for t his |
| 17:07.20 | Detox_on_Server | hi keyra |
| 17:07.28 | keyra | Detox_on_Server: hi :) |
| 17:07.42 | Detox_on_Server | ahhhh ,, the annoying kerya has returned |
| 17:08.03 | Detox_on_Server | now when i day |
| 17:08.04 | Detox_on_Server | hello |
| 17:08.13 | keyra | Detox_on_Server: hi |
| 17:08.13 | Detox_on_Server | i get a response |
| 17:08.19 | Detox_on_Server | hello |
| 17:08.21 | Ezep | hello |
| 17:08.39 | Detox_on_Server | bye keyra |
| 17:08.51 | Ezep | im the new bot here |
| 17:08.55 | Ezep | :P |
| 17:11.14 | Ouch | lol |
| 17:13.44 | Thybo | %od |
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| 17:23.12 | dats | hi |
| 17:23.18 | Detox_on_Server | hi |
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| 17:58.48 | hermit2 | Thanatermesis, @gobby |
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| 18:07.00 | Elive_user57 | Hy, I have a problem with the Main Menu and Elitaire. If I check entangle, I find the symbol in my favorites. But I don't see it in the Main Menu. |
| 18:07.14 | keyra | Elive_user57: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 18:07.57 | Elive_user57 | That is the problem. Where is the symbol? |
| 18:08.09 | roxville | Elive_user57, you can do this: alt+Tab and type "elitaire" |
| 18:08.34 | roxville | the symbol, or icon is not there...it seems |
| 18:08.41 | hermit2 | keyra is a bot. I don't know why elitaire won't show up in the menu. |
| 18:08.50 | roxville | e17 uses a special kind of icons, called eaps |
| 18:08.55 | keyra | hermit2: you think it ? |
| 18:09.09 | keyra | roxville: make a look to http://thanatermesis.org/users/i3dmaster/eaps-maker.tgz , but if you mean icons on the desktop, this is not on the plans of Elive, icons are shortcuts for inferior environments and his clones |
| 18:09.35 | roxville | yes keyra thank you very much |
| 18:09.35 | hermit2 | and roxville the icon exists but still elitaire refuses to show in the menu |
| 18:09.41 | roxville | apt, make-eap |
| 18:09.46 | apt | it has been said that make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 18:09.49 | keyra | roxville: :) |
| 18:09.52 | Elive_user57 | The icon is created by default and also part of the Main Menu, but not visible. |
| 18:10.13 | roxville | then... the exec must be wrong or elitaire is actually NOT installed |
| 18:10.30 | hermit2 | yes it is.. I play it all the time |
| 18:10.35 | roxville | Elive_user57, do the alt+tab thingand see if elitaire opens |
| 18:10.36 | Elive_user57 | It is installed, running via shell |
| 18:10.39 | roxville | ok |
| 18:11.21 | roxville | if the exec is wrong, it won't show up in entangle |
| 18:12.23 | Elive_user57 | It is visible in entangle, I can select/deselect it in entangle, but I don't have it in Main Menu. |
| 18:12.34 | roxville | open elitaire and click on the icon in the window border and check the exec in "edit icon" |
| 18:13.01 | roxville | i still think the executable, or path to it, is off |
| 18:13.06 | roxville | somehow |
| 18:13.35 | roxville | when you run it from terminal, do you just type "elitaire"? |
| 18:14.16 | hermit2 | yes, but the executable has an upper case E |
| 18:14.38 | Elive_user57 | I cannot see a error, if I click on "edit icon". Where should it be? The Eap Editor will be opened and everything looks ok. |
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| 18:15.22 | Elive_user57 | in terminal -> yes |
| 18:15.39 | roxville | and the same in the eap editor? |
| 18:16.22 | Elive_user57 | "Elitaire" |
| 18:17.02 | hermit2 | ... you are right roxville, change the E inthe executable to lowercase and elitaire shows in the menu |
| 18:17.12 | roxville | TRY with a lowercase "e" |
| 18:17.48 | roxville | ok |
| 18:17.51 | Elive_user57 | Thank you, the Capital letter was the mistake. Maybe it should also be changed in the distribution |
| 18:17.53 | roxville | my work here is done |
| 18:17.59 | roxville | :D |
| 18:18.13 | roxville | Elive_user57, it probably will :) |
| 18:18.45 | roxville | elive is soon gonna move to the newer version of e17, which uses .desktop icons instead of eaps |
| 18:18.50 | Maximiliaoadl | hi |
| 18:18.59 | keyra | roxville: make a look to http://thanatermesis.org/users/i3dmaster/eaps-maker.tgz , but if you mean icons on the desktop, this is not on the plans of Elive, icons are shortcuts for inferior environments and his clones |
| 18:19.01 | roxville | hi max :) |
| 18:19.07 | Maximiliaoadl | ive installed amarok yesterday |
| 18:19.18 | Maximiliaoadl | and put its icon in the ibar... |
| 18:19.20 | roxville | keyra, gomow your lawn or something |
| 18:19.34 | keyra | roxville: hi :) |
| 18:19.38 | Maximiliaoadl | but when i restart or relogin the icon on the ibar desapear |
| 18:20.08 | roxville | Maximiliaoadl, then something is wrong in the icon file |
| 18:20.25 | Elive_user57 | What means desktop icons? I like a desktop without icons. |
| 18:20.26 | roxville | i can't tell you exactly what it is |
| 18:20.33 | roxville | but ibar is picky |
| 18:20.35 | Maximiliaoadl | ive installed .0.6.5 and apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:20.47 | roxville | Elive_user57, .desktop is a format |
| 18:20.57 | roxville | notice the period |
| 18:20.59 | Maximiliaoadl | and used the default incon... |
| 18:21.20 | GPLGeek | .desktop is the method of markup links use in most standard systems |
| 18:21.20 | roxville | from freedesktop.org |
| 18:21.24 | GPLGeek | gnome, kde, elive, etc. |
| 18:21.34 | Maximiliaoadl | throught the elpanel |
| 18:21.43 | GPLGeek | you can have a link to a program, and it stores icon information, path, executable, etc |
| 18:21.46 | roxville | gotta do something, bbiab |
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| 18:32.42 | Elive_user57 | Back and a further question. Where are the default icons stored? I like to change it in the default icon. |
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| 19:31.19 | wizard123 | hello again |
| 19:31.33 | keyra | wizard123: hi |
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| 19:41.40 | Detox_on_Server | hey wizard!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:41.44 | Detox_on_Server | how ya be? |
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| 19:41.53 | Detox_on_Server | am figuring out my prob's |
| 19:41.59 | Detox_on_Server | lots of reading going on |
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| 20:34.31 | Mtraker | hi |
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| 20:34.53 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
| 20:35.28 | Detox_on_Server | hey |
| 20:35.38 | Detox_on_Server | anyone know much about vhost? |
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| 20:38.05 | Mtraker | i'm a problem with... blender, e17 (last version) and ati driver. If i write fglrxinfo in e16, the system say it a mesa card, but in e17 say it's a ati radeon. Blender in e 16 don't run (crash) in e16 run ok. Can you help me? |
| 20:38.19 | keyra | Mtraker: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 20:38.26 | Flox | hello |
| 20:38.40 | keyra | Flox: hi |
| 20:39.16 | Flox | I would like to know if there is a french canal? |
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| 20:39.32 | Flox | of elive |
| 20:43.11 | Flox | hello keyra |
| 20:43.11 | keyra | Flox: hi |
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| 20:43.14 | Flox | I'm new in elive and I m very happy to intall this distribution |
| 20:43.15 | Mtraker | Flox you can speak in french, i think so. Here have french people (i think) |
| 20:43.16 | Flox | ok |
| 20:43.17 | Flox | est ce qu'il y a des français ici ? |
| 20:43.18 | Flox | ou belge suisse canadien ? |
| 20:43.21 | Mtraker | Thanatermesis, speak in french, but isn't here now |
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| 20:44.13 | Flox | thanks |
| 20:45.00 | Flox | I will speak of english |
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| 20:45.05 | Flox | don't matter |
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| 20:45.30 | Flox | What are your Elive version ? |
| 20:45.39 | Mtraker | 0.6.7 |
| 20:45.40 | vektorman | hello |
| 20:45.49 | Mtraker | hello vektorman |
| 20:45.49 | Flox | unstable ? |
| 20:45.52 | Mtraker | yes |
| 20:45.54 | keyra | vektorman: hi |
| 20:45.58 | Flox | hello vektorman |
| 20:45.59 | Mtraker | very unstable |
| 20:46.10 | vektorman | hello everybody |
| 20:46.11 | Flox | are you beta tester? |
| 20:46.14 | Mtraker | and the e17 to test version |
| 20:46.35 | Flox | I have the 0.6.6 unstable |
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| 20:46.38 | Elive_user | elive-version: 0.2 xD |
| 20:46.50 | Mtraker | XD |
| 20:47.08 | Flox | are you happy with this version Elive_user ? |
| 20:47.19 | hermit2 | Oh, I do think you need to update Elive_user :) |
| 20:47.24 | Elive_user | xD |
| 20:47.43 | Flox | no apt-get dist ? |
| 20:47.45 | Elive_user | live-cd to restore my sid |
| 20:47.51 | Flox | yes |
| 20:48.09 | Elive_user | my hd has a big crash |
| 20:48.14 | Mtraker | I have in my room the 0.1 version |
| 20:48.31 | Flox | I was in debian etch and zubuntu 6.10 |
| 20:48.44 | Flox | and yet I test this version |
| 20:48.45 | keyra | Flox: ubuntu is off topic |
| 20:48.52 | Elive_user | xD |
| 20:48.52 | Flox | sorry |
| 20:49.00 | Mtraker | Flox keyra it's a bot |
| 20:49.14 | keyra | Mtraker: bot |
| 20:49.16 | Flox | ok |
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| 20:51.10 | Flox | Yet I don't have bug with elive and It's very good |
| 20:51.57 | Flox | and I think this group is nice |
| 20:52.11 | hermit2 | :) |
| 20:52.28 | Mtraker | im return now |
| 20:52.31 | Mtraker | see u later |
| 20:52.37 | Flox | you see |
| 20:52.45 | Flox | too late |
| 20:54.11 | Flox | I will test my dvix with mplayer |
| 20:54.39 | Flox | Ciao all the room and Thanks for your welcome |
| 20:55.04 | Flox | see you later |
| 21:04.42 | Maximiliaoadl | me fui a la escuela... bye bye |
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| 21:13.52 | Marc_f_p | bye |
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| 21:32.56 | vektorman | Yesterday I download many backgrownds animated and non animated (*.edj) files from get-e.org site and when I put them in ~/e/.e/bacgrounds directory, but can't see them in emblem application |
| 21:33.26 | Ezep | keyra: ping |
| 21:33.41 | keyra | Ezep: pong |
| 21:33.57 | Ezep | :) |
| 21:34.18 | vektorman | please sombady tell me how to fix this |
| 21:34.37 | Ezep | sorry vektorman ... |
| 21:34.44 | LinuxNIT | vektorman, what version of e17? |
| 21:34.53 | vektorman | rl2 |
| 21:35.05 | LinuxNIT | thats the elive version... |
| 21:35.25 | LinuxNIT | click on your desktop go and click on "about enlightenemtn" |
| 21:35.37 | LinuxNIT | does it end in 026? |
| 21:36.07 | vektorman | 0.16.999.026 |
| 21:36.13 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 21:36.53 | LinuxNIT | those backgrounds on get-e.org are for a newer version of e17.... but you should be able to get them to work if you want to put a little effort into it... do you want to? |
| 21:37.19 | vektorman | yes |
| 21:38.20 | LinuxNIT | open a terminal |
| 21:38.59 | LinuxNIT | cd into the directory with the .edj background files |
| 21:39.11 | LinuxNIT | run edje_decc filename.edj |
| 21:39.49 | vektorman | ok moment |
| 21:40.45 | LinuxNIT | well you can modif the file.... or you can upgrade your version of e17 to the one in elives tests repo... its your choice |
| 21:40.53 | LinuxNIT | *modify |
| 21:41.48 | LinuxNIT | to modify it cd into the directory that edje_decc created and open the edc file. |
| 21:41.54 | LinuxNIT | find the line that looks like this: |
| 21:42.02 | LinuxNIT | group { name: "e/desktop/background"; |
| 21:42.10 | LinuxNIT | remove the e/ |
| 21:42.31 | LinuxNIT | save and run the build script.... it will create a new edj file... use that edj file |
| 21:45.07 | vektorman | LinuxNIT thank you |
| 21:45.25 | LinuxNIT | your welcome |
| 21:45.33 | LinuxNIT | hollar if you still have trouble |
| 21:45.45 | vektorman | and please tell me how to upgrade enlightenment? |
| 21:46.13 | LinuxNIT | first set the entrance theme to e17-default in elpanel |
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| 21:46.27 | keyra | LinuxNIT: don't worry, this is planned for the next iso ;) |
| 21:46.42 | LinuxNIT | then edit /etc/apt/sources.list by adding " tests" to the end of the elive repo line |
| 21:46.49 | LinuxNIT | save... apt-get update |
| 21:46.56 | LinuxNIT | apt-get install e17 |
| 21:46.56 | keyra | LinuxNIT: this is a FAQ question, read http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
| 21:48.14 | LinuxNIT | deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive tests |
| 21:48.15 | vektorman | thank you LinuxNIT |
| 21:48.15 | LinuxNIT | like so |
| 21:48.40 | LinuxNIT | your welcome. |
| 21:48.51 | vektorman | :) |
| 21:48.51 | LinuxNIT | be sure to switch the entrance theme or entrance will crash |
| 21:49.08 | vektorman | ok I will |
| 21:52.28 | LinuxNIT | vektorman, note that upgrading e17 like that will make the themes in synaptic obsolete... but you can use the themes on get-e.org |
| 21:54.22 | vektorman | LinuxNIT: thank you I am thinkig of cost of this upgrade. At this moment this version of enlightenment works perfect for me |
| 21:54.43 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 21:54.49 | LinuxNIT | well i was just letting you know the options |
| 21:54.53 | LinuxNIT | both should work |
| 21:54.54 | vektorman | I maybe will wait for new iso |
| 21:55.33 | LinuxNIT | i think (dont quote me on this) but that there will be one more stable release of elive before he upgrades the default version of e17 |
| 21:55.42 | LinuxNIT | fyi |
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| 21:56.36 | vektorman | thank you |
| 21:56.36 | LinuxNIT | yw |
| 21:59.02 | bech | goodbye tout le monde |
| 22:01.19 | vektorman | ei dano da stane |
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| 22:28.33 | THEoracle | hey......anyone know where i can pull down a "rage" .deb.......it's in the tests repository |
| 22:29.40 | LinuxNIT | what do you want to do? |
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| 22:38.50 | THEoracle | install rasterman's rage |
| 22:38.57 | THEoracle | what repo is it in? |
| 22:39.03 | THEoracle | brb |
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| 22:45.45 | LinuxNIT | THEoracle, apt seems to show that it is in both the default and the tests repo |
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