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| 00:05.56 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: is wireshark ethereal? or the newer version of it? |
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| 00:25.49 | GPLGeek | elmo40, they share code |
| 00:25.56 | elmo40 | k |
| 00:25.57 | elmo40 | i installed ethereal, and it auto installed wireshark ;) |
| 00:26.04 | GPLGeek | common |
| 00:26.08 | GPLGeek | it may just be like firefox vs icewaesel but im not sure |
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| 00:28.56 | elmo40 | no, it installed both! |
| 00:29.09 | elmo40 | if i apt-get isntalled wireshark, it was 200kb less. |
| 00:31.42 | Thybo | elmo40, doesn't one use the other like graf interface and motor or somehting like that? |
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| 00:32.25 | keyra | L1nUx_L33t: nas nas :) |
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| 00:36.18 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra |
| 00:36.19 | apt | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-quark gun at keyra |
| 00:36.36 | L1nUx_L33t | jejeej |
| 00:37.03 | Thybo | hate her |
| 00:39.23 | Ezep | apt: bad bot |
| 00:39.42 | apt | Bad bot, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 00:39.45 | Thybo | apt: reshoot keyra |
| 00:39.58 | Thybo | apt: kick keyra |
| 00:40.00 | apt | ACTION kicks keyra |
| 00:40.00 | Thybo | ? |
| 00:40.18 | Thybo | apt: give me a cooky |
| 00:40.19 | apt | ACTION gives a cooky to thybo |
| 00:40.22 | Thybo | :) |
| 00:40.25 | L1nUx_L33t | xDD |
| 01:03.56 | elmo40 | Thybo: you kill keyra every time you come in here! |
| 01:04.26 | Gwildor_ | everybody hates keyra. |
| 01:04.34 | Gwildor_ | i punch her when she says tupid stuff :P |
| 01:04.40 | keyra | Gwildor_: do you like my body ? ;) |
| 01:24.36 | Ezep | keyra: your body? u have one? |
| 01:24.50 | keyra | Ezep: do you like my body ? ;) |
| 01:25.08 | Ezep | keyra:do you have a body? |
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| 01:56.13 | elmo40 | keyra: website |
| 01:56.26 | elmo40 | Gwildor_: skype? |
| 01:58.01 | Ezep | ESPEREN QUE REESTABLESCA LA CONECCION...MI MODEM VA A ESTALLAR SI SIGO ASI |
| 01:58.09 | elmo40 | ~keyra |
| 01:58.25 | elmo40 | Thybo: what do you mean graf and motor? |
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| 02:02.03 | elmo40 | dude, you gonna pick up? |
| 02:02.11 | elmo40 | where is apt? |
| 02:02.16 | elmo40 | apt: who is keyra |
| 02:02.18 | apt | elmo40: what are you talking about? |
| 02:02.40 | Elive_user26 | whisky tango foxtrot, keyra is a bot |
| 02:02.49 | elmo40 | lol, |
| 02:02.54 | keyra | Elive_user26: hi :) |
| 02:02.56 | elmo40 | i know that... |
| 02:03.17 | elmo40 | so is apt |
| 02:03.40 | Elive_user26 | I've been talking to her trying to get her phone number for 3 months! |
| 02:03.40 | Elive_user26 | I was in love damnit! |
| 02:03.54 | elmo40 | keyra: you are weird |
| 02:04.23 | elmo40 | she doesnt answer me! |
| 02:04.25 | elmo40 | neither does apt |
| 02:04.39 | keyra | elmo40: thanks... bot :) |
| 02:04.41 | GPLGeek_VM | apt, estas aqui? |
| 02:04.54 | elmo40 | grrr |
| 02:05.10 | elmo40 | is apt Thanatermesis's bot? |
| 02:05.17 | GPLGeek_VM | apt, !* > |
| 02:05.25 | GPLGeek_VM | apt, are you broken |
| 02:05.31 | GPLGeek_VM | shared bot I think |
| 02:05.32 | elmo40 | keyra: apt is broken |
| 02:05.42 | elmo40 | apt: keyra is broken |
| 02:05.44 | apt | elmo40: okay |
| 02:05.44 | GPLGeek_VM | keyra, dont listen to elmo40 |
| 02:06.01 | elmo40 | apt: whois keyra ? |
| 02:06.14 | elmo40 | keyra: e17 |
| 02:06.20 | GPLGeek_VM | apt: keyra is a bot |
| 02:06.22 | apt | ...but keyra is already something else... |
| 02:06.30 | elmo40 | apt: 64-bit |
| 02:06.32 | GPLGeek_VM | apt forget keyra |
| 02:06.33 | apt | i forgot keyra, GPLGeek_VM |
| 02:06.33 | elmo40 | apt: time |
| 02:06.37 | apt | time is, like, 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2007.04.20 2:06:37 GMT |
| 02:06.38 | keyra | GPLGeek_VM: you think it ? |
| 02:06.38 | GPLGeek_VM | apt: keyra is a bot |
| 02:06.41 | apt | GPLGeek_VM: okay |
| 02:06.49 | keyra | apt: do it! |
| 02:06.51 | apt | ACTION does it!. |
| 02:06.52 | elmo40 | apt: give keyra a beer |
| 02:06.54 | apt | ACTION hands keyra a cold beer |
| 02:06.57 | GPLGeek_VM | keyra apt is a bot |
| 02:07.02 | keyra | GPLGeek_VM: bot |
| 02:07.05 | elmo40 | apt: who is keyra ? |
| 02:07.11 | apt | elmo40: I think you lost me on that one |
| 02:07.12 | elmo40 | keyra: apt is a bot |
| 02:07.16 | keyra | elmo40: hic! |
| 02:07.19 | elmo40 | apt: what is keyra ? |
| 02:07.22 | apt | elmo40: what are you talking about? |
| 02:07.31 | elmo40 | apt: reboot |
| 02:07.33 | apt | Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$? |
| 02:07.33 | keyra | elmo40: search in google |
| 02:07.37 | GPLGeek_VM | apt: keyra |
| 02:07.39 | apt | rumour has it, keyra is a bot |
| 02:07.46 | elmo40 | apt: windows |
| 02:07.48 | apt | hmm... windows is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs |
| 02:07.48 | GPLGeek_VM | syntax elmo40 |
| 02:08.14 | elmo40 | keyra: enlightenment |
| 02:09.04 | GPLGeek_VM | heh the e17 porn site got taken down. It had edj files with bad themes and backgrounds lol |
| 02:09.23 | elmo40 | how do i list the apps in a repo? Is there a way? I have three repos in my list, and want to know what one holds. |
| 02:09.26 | elmo40 | lol |
| 02:10.06 | elmo40 | is vodcopy down? |
| 02:10.13 | elmo40 | *b |
| 02:10.47 | elmo40 | nope, just hung for a bit |
| 02:19.03 | GPLGeek_VM | apt-cache |
| 02:19.09 | GPLGeek_VM | you can use it to search or list |
| 02:19.16 | GPLGeek_VM | just apt-get update first |
| 02:20.27 | Ezep | Thanatermesis, estas? |
| 02:23.31 | elmo40 | GPLGeek_VM: but i want to make a file of all the packages. |
| 02:25.02 | hermit2 | just open synaptic, you can see them all there |
| 02:26.01 | GPLGeek_VM | the repo itself has that list |
| 02:26.10 | GPLGeek_VM | the index file |
| 02:26.16 | GPLGeek_VM | there are parsers for it forget names of it though |
| 02:29.52 | elmo40 | syn-what? |
| 02:29.57 | elmo40 | i dont use gui... |
| 02:30.27 | hermit2 | ehh... it lists them all and will give short discriptions too |
| 02:31.08 | elmo40 | anyone ever use wajig? "simplified Debian package management front end" |
| 02:31.22 | keyra | elmo40: Debian r00lz ! |
| 02:31.46 | elmo40 | ya, i guess so keyra |
| 02:31.52 | GPLGeek_VM | expample |
| 02:31.57 | GPLGeek_VM | wget -c ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Contents-i386.gz |
| 02:32.04 | GPLGeek_VM | un gz it |
| 02:32.11 | GPLGeek_VM | cat * |
| 02:32.20 | elmo40 | k |
| 02:32.23 | GPLGeek_VM | cat * > /file |
| 02:32.30 | GPLGeek_VM | cat * > /path |
| 02:32.31 | elmo40 | ya |
| 02:32.32 | GPLGeek_VM | whatever |
| 02:32.35 | GPLGeek_VM | wherever you need it |
| 02:32.59 | GPLGeek_VM | cat * | grep filter > /path |
| 02:33.00 | GPLGeek_VM | i mean |
| 02:33.06 | GPLGeek_VM | if you need to strip info from it |
| 02:33.15 | GPLGeek_VM | or get a specific line |
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| 03:10.52 | elmo40 | does anyone see the proper MathML images? http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/texvsmml.xhtml |
| 03:11.45 | hermit2 | looks like math to me |
| 03:12.14 | elmo40 | but can you see the same on the left and right side? |
| 03:12.34 | elmo40 | the left is a .gif of what it is supposed to look like. the right it what your browser displays. |
| 03:13.28 | hermit2 | well, the left side looks proper, the right side looks like they didn;'t have the proper keys and things didn't hold their formating |
| 03:19.48 | elmo40 | hermit2: the right side is YOUR browser trying to decypher the <math> tags. In other words, your browser can NOT display MathML. |
| 03:20.02 | hermit2 | I see |
| 03:20.39 | hermit2 | but is possible to enable it if I can add the right style sheet to its file? |
| 03:20.57 | elmo40 | ya, something like that. |
| 03:21.01 | elmo40 | plus math fonts. |
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| 05:01.01 | Maximilianoadl | hi |
| 05:01.19 | Elive_user1 | hi |
| 05:03.17 | Elive_user1 | how are you Maximilianoadl |
| 05:03.48 | Maximilianoadl | i ve just saw images of the new e17 |
| 05:03.52 | Maximilianoadl | it is amasing |
| 05:04.08 | Elive_user1 | what images? |
| 05:04.33 | Maximilianoadl | im uploading to my ftp server... i will pass the link in a few seconds |
| 05:05.52 | Maximilianoadl | www.madl.com.ar/imagenes/ |
| 05:06.04 | Maximilianoadl | see the elive#.png files |
| 05:06.22 | Maximilianoadl | Elive_user1, |
| 05:07.14 | Elive_user1 | apparently you run the version in the tests repo :) |
| 05:07.28 | Maximilianoadl | this images arent mine |
| 05:07.35 | Elive_user1 | ah |
| 05:07.48 | Elive_user1 | well you can get that version or at least a very close on in the elive tests repo |
| 05:08.14 | Maximilianoadl | im using 0.6.5 |
| 05:08.41 | Maximilianoadl | yesterday i have done... apt-get update ... apt-get dist-upgrade... |
| 05:08.49 | Elive_user1 | yes but that still comes with an older version of e17 |
| 05:09.03 | Elive_user1 | you have to change repos to get the "tests" version which is newer |
| 05:09.06 | Maximilianoadl | what repo must i use? |
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| 05:09.31 | Maximilianoadl | ok... i wil do that |
| 05:09.35 | Maximilianoadl | will* |
| 05:09.36 | Elive_user1 | deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive <<this is your default repo for elive |
| 05:09.49 | Elive_user1 | this is what it needs to be to get the new version: |
| 05:09.53 | Elive_user1 | deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive tests |
| 05:10.13 | Elive_user1 | just add " tests" to the end of the original ;) |
| 05:10.22 | Maximilianoadl | ok... thanx |
| 05:10.24 | Elive_user1 | apt-get update && apt-get install e17 |
| 05:10.41 | Maximilianoadl | every is easy in elive.. i love it |
| 05:10.41 | Elive_user1 | be sure and set the entrance theme to e17-default or entrance could crash |
| 05:10.56 | keyra | Elive_user1: don't worry, this is planned for the next iso ;) |
| 05:10.59 | Elive_user1 | warning.... you will loose all of your e17 settings |
| 05:11.10 | Elive_user1 | evening PrinceAMD |
| 05:11.19 | Maximilianoadl | this is not a problem... |
| 05:11.55 | Maximilianoadl | ive reinstalled everything the day before yesterday |
| 05:12.11 | Elive_user1 | k |
| 05:12.20 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user1, hey |
| 05:12.29 | Elive_user1 | how goes it? |
| 05:12.31 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user1.good evening |
| 05:12.47 | Elive_user1 | PrinceAMD, hows it goin? |
| 05:13.04 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user1, kinda good, my entrance got messed up |
| 05:13.12 | Elive_user1 | what happened? |
| 05:13.33 | Elive_user1 | been playing around too much? ;) |
| 05:13.33 | PrinceAMD | i tried cvs one and it messed up the originak |
| 05:13.43 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 05:13.46 | Elive_user1 | try purging it and reinstalling |
| 05:14.30 | Elive_user1 | apt-get remove --purge entrance |
| 05:15.17 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 05:17.21 | Elive_user1 | ? |
| 05:17.37 | Elive_user1 | yay or nay? |
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| 05:17.40 | PrinceAMD | still dead |
| 05:17.43 | Elive_user1 | :-/ |
| 05:18.00 | PrinceAMD | i had to delete entranced in /usr/sbin/ on live cd to actully get in my system |
| 05:18.09 | PrinceAMD | so maybe that's still missing |
| 05:18.18 | Elive_user1 | after reinstalling? |
| 05:18.24 | PrinceAMD | PrinceAMD@Elive[~]$ locate entranced |
| 05:18.25 | PrinceAMD | locate: warning: database `/var/cache/locate/locatedb' is more than 8 days old |
| 05:18.25 | PrinceAMD | /usr/sbin/entranced |
| 05:18.25 | PrinceAMD | /var/run/entranced.pid |
| 05:18.29 | PrinceAMD | ok it's there |
| 05:18.30 | Elive_user1 | if you reinstalled it should be there |
| 05:18.36 | Elive_user1 | what about the themes? |
| 05:18.37 | Maximilianoadl | http://www.madl.com.ar/imagenes/elive3.png <=== this really likes me |
| 05:18.43 | Elive_user1 | did cvs add some themes? |
| 05:19.01 | PrinceAMD | i dont know |
| 05:19.07 | PrinceAMD | didnt get to test it good |
| 05:19.30 | Elive_user1 | you like that one Maximilianoadl ? |
| 05:19.41 | Elive_user1 | yeah e17 is finally building up a set of themes |
| 05:19.47 | Maximilianoadl | yes... my english is not good |
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| 05:19.48 | Elive_user1 | its still small but its better than it was |
| 05:20.12 | Elive_user1 | PrinceAMD, you could try moving all the themes out of the entrance dir and then reinstalling entrance |
| 05:20.30 | Elive_user1 | and moving the config files as well... just incase they are not getting removed on purge |
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| 05:20.34 | Elive_user1 | just an idea |
| 05:20.43 | Elive_user1 | could be a lib issue as well i dunno |
| 05:20.47 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user1, i got it to work thanks :) |
| 05:20.52 | PrinceAMD | pugre work |
| 05:20.52 | Elive_user1 | cool |
| 05:21.01 | Elive_user1 | purge is awsome :) |
| 05:21.08 | PrinceAMD | the problem was that i try running it not under root |
| 05:21.18 | Elive_user1 | entrance? |
| 05:21.22 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 05:21.28 | Elive_user1 | yeah that dont work so wel |
| 05:21.28 | Elive_user1 | l |
| 05:21.29 | Elive_user1 | :) |
| 05:21.33 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 05:22.25 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user1, thanks |
| 05:22.33 | Elive_user1 | youre welcome... anytime |
| 05:23.17 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 05:25.54 | LinuxNIT | forgot to do that earlier |
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| 05:57.04 | GPLGeek | I'm going to install the latest wine |
| 05:57.08 | GPLGeek | and install steam |
| 05:57.15 | GPLGeek | I hear wine plays steam better than cedega does |
| 05:57.34 | GPLGeek | the latest wine supposedly fixes like 99% of all problems that exist. |
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| 06:21.10 | felixelgato | anybpy |
| 06:21.12 | felixelgato | hey |
| 06:27.42 | LinuxNIT | hey |
| 06:29.31 | felixelgato | what does measdn a dmesg : NO MATCHING DEVICE SECTION FOR INSTANCE ( BUSID PCI :1:0:1 ) found |
| 06:29.50 | felixelgato | where do i specify 1:0:0 |
| 06:30.03 | LinuxNIT | what device? |
| 06:30.30 | felixelgato | busis pci 1:0:1 |
| 06:30.42 | felixelgato | i ve instaled fglrx driver |
| 06:30.46 | LinuxNIT | video card? |
| 06:30.50 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 06:31.05 | LinuxNIT | did you install the fglrx driver in the repos? |
| 06:31.14 | felixelgato | no the ati.com 's |
| 06:31.20 | LinuxNIT | you can specify the busid in the xorg.conf |
| 06:31.39 | felixelgato | how |
| 06:31.42 | LinuxNIT | if you had chosen fglrx during boot it would have already been installed for you |
| 06:32.39 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.07 | LinuxNIT | i believe elive has fglrx in the repos though |
| 06:34.03 | felixelgato | Section "Device" |
| 06:34.03 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.03 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.03 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.03 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.04 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.06 | felixelgato | EndSection |
| 06:34.08 | felixelgato | in that section ?? |
| 06:34.40 | LinuxNIT | i would assume so... your still using the ati driver not fglrx |
| 06:34.51 | LinuxNIT | stop |
| 06:35.03 | LinuxNIT | you need to backup the xorg.conf before editing |
| 06:36.58 | felixelgato | this is my backup |
| 06:37.08 | felixelgato | the open source xorg.con |
| 06:41.43 | LinuxNIT | well im off to bed... good luck and good night |
| 06:42.19 | felixelgato | thanks |
| 06:42.52 | felixelgato | wit |
| 06:43.12 | felixelgato | the BusID param and the screen param does have any thing in common ? |
| 06:43.24 | felixelgato | Section "Device" |
| 06:43.24 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.24 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.25 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.25 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.25 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.27 | felixelgato | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:12.02 | Mtraker | hi |
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| 07:30.30 | Mtraker | hi |
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| 08:16.53 | Thybo | hello Thanatermesis :) |
| 08:16.58 | Thybo | comment ca va? :) |
| 08:17.07 | keyra | Thybo: hi |
| 08:17.15 | Thybo | apt: eat keyra |
| 08:17.18 | apt | ACTION eats keyra and falls over dead |
| 08:20.20 | Thybo | Thanatermesis? are u there? |
| 08:20.23 | Thybo | i have like a problem |
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| 08:34.21 | Thybo | i removed completly gnome utilitties with config files, which removed elpanel, that reinstalled it but i still get the password error :( |
| 08:37.54 | wizard124 | i had the same problem |
| 08:38.03 | Thybo | ? |
| 08:38.08 | Thybo | and what did you do?!! |
| 08:39.30 | Thybo | wizard124?? |
| 08:40.06 | Thybo | wizard124, u there? |
| 08:40.09 | wizard124 | yes |
| 08:40.13 | Thybo | :) |
| 08:40.15 | wizard124 | i did nothing |
| 08:40.17 | Thybo | did you resolve it? |
| 08:40.22 | wizard124 | no |
| 08:40.30 | Thybo | so u actually have the same error |
| 08:40.38 | wizard124 | yes, something about password |
| 08:40.56 | Thybo | that is the opening of an error window AFTER the opening of the network manager and typing the correct paswor |
| 08:41.05 | wizard124 | i don't know where is the problem, and i don't need that application, so i uninstalled it |
| 08:41.12 | wizard124 | yes, i know |
| 08:41.20 | Thybo | what aplication? |
| 08:41.22 | Thybo | gnome tools? |
| 08:41.27 | Thybo | u don't need elpanel? |
| 08:41.37 | wizard124 | it also does not work when run directly from root console or by sudo |
| 08:41.41 | wizard124 | yes |
| 08:42.07 | Thybo | u removed all of gnome utilites |
| 08:42.09 | Thybo | hm |
| 08:42.15 | Thybo | i couuuld do that |
| 08:42.16 | wizard124 | right |
| 08:42.20 | Thybo | but i'd rather solve the problem |
| 08:42.21 | Thybo | coz |
| 08:42.27 | Thybo | i can help using elpanel |
| 08:43.25 | Thybo | its like weird...:( |
| 08:43.29 | Thybo | thanks anyways wizard |
| 08:43.35 | Thybo | if u ever find what it is ... |
| 08:44.11 | wizard124 | maybe google knows |
| 08:45.32 | wizard124 | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg327699.html |
| 08:45.34 | wizard124 | heh |
| 08:46.01 | Thybo | me thinks he's gonna give a big kiss :) |
| 08:46.33 | wizard124 | i think that something is screwed ;) |
| 08:46.37 | Thybo | hmm |
| 08:46.45 | Thybo | is the awnser posted on the same page? |
| 08:46.54 | Thybo | or do they just send a mail message, |
| 08:47.04 | wizard124 | uhh... i colsed the window.. but that was just a bug report |
| 08:47.18 | keyra | wizard124: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 08:47.27 | wizard124 | i hope that debian gnome team will repair it soon |
| 08:50.09 | Thybo | wizard124, i though u didn't need it :p |
| 08:52.12 | wizard124 | but users need that |
| 08:52.31 | wizard124 | fsck.. i have problems with UTF-8.. again |
| 08:52.59 | wizard124 | ³óóó󼼼 |
| 08:53.03 | wizard124 | baaaah :( |
| 08:53.24 | Thybo | yeah |
| 08:53.50 | Thybo | and they shouldn't put root password for network configuration |
| 08:54.11 | wizard124 | why ? |
| 08:54.35 | Thybo | well, i don't think u can really damage the system with that |
| 08:54.42 | Thybo | and a normal non admin user could need it |
| 08:54.46 | Thybo | no? |
| 08:55.24 | wizard124 | wait a second, i'm brushing theet |
| 08:55.44 | Thybo | :d |
| 08:57.46 | wizard124 | k |
| 08:58.06 | wizard124 | i think that it should be dome by sudo.. |
| 08:58.09 | wizard124 | done* |
| 08:58.29 | Thybo | lol |
| 08:58.30 | Thybo | did it |
| 08:58.36 | Thybo | but still asks me for pw |
| 08:58.49 | wizard124 | i'm talkong about whole this mechanism |
| 08:59.18 | wizard124 | look, you define special groups in /etc/group |
| 08:59.53 | wizard124 | than, you configure sudo to allow users from each group to do some administration tasks |
| 09:00.34 | wizard124 | than, all you need is to add your users to apriopriate (?) groups |
| 09:00.44 | wizard124 | voila, perfect linux destkop |
| 09:00.59 | wizard124 | no passwords at all and system is still secure |
| 09:01.05 | wizard124 | (allmost ;) |
| 09:01.13 | Thybo | lol |
| 09:01.16 | wizard124 | mati@ptok:~$ locale -a | grep pl |
| 09:01.16 | wizard124 | pl_PL |
| 09:01.16 | wizard124 | pl_PL.iso88592 |
| 09:01.16 | wizard124 | pl_PL.utf8 |
| 09:01.19 | Thybo | of course ^ ^ |
| 09:01.26 | wizard124 | mati@ptok:~$ echo $LANG |
| 09:01.26 | wizard124 | pl_PL.UTF-8 |
| 09:01.29 | wizard124 | whoops ;) |
| 09:02.10 | Thybo | c u im gona sleep |
| 09:02.18 | wizard124 | see ya |
| 09:02.24 | GPLGeek | go away its too late |
| 09:02.28 | GPLGeek | go to bed! |
| 09:02.35 | Thybo | im goin im goin :) |
| 09:07.47 | wizard124 | łóżko |
| 09:07.57 | wizard124 | ćma koń |
| 09:08.00 | wizard124 | it works! |
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| 09:08.50 | LordLamer | Thanatermesis: mirror is up ;) |
| 09:18.19 | wizard124 | does anybody know what does efreet do ? |
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| 12:54.41 | roxville | yay! release note on distrowatch!!! wooohoooo!! |
| 12:56.35 | hermit2 | can I have a Bloody Mary instead :) |
| 12:57.19 | hermit2 | Even better... coffee, black, no sugar |
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| 12:57.33 | Mtraker | hi |
| 12:58.25 | roxville | no sugar |
| 12:59.33 | hermit2 | hansens uses corn syrup :( |
| 13:00.01 | hermit2 | Thanks |
| 13:00.51 | roxville | they do? |
| 13:02.00 | roxville | ouch, i didn't know that... |
| 13:02.13 | roxville | blue sky has one too |
| 13:02.40 | roxville | and there's one with guarana and yerba mate... it's pretty good |
| 13:07.20 | hermit2 | greentea soda uses cane suger |
| 13:07.35 | PrinceAMD | hermit2, good morning |
| 13:07.47 | hermit2 | mornin' PrinceAMD |
| 13:08.30 | hermit2 | the town is fixing the ditch at the end of my road that the flooding left behind |
| 13:08.36 | hermit2 | they are noisy |
| 13:14.00 | hermit2 | http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/04/18/1942200.shtml |
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| 13:39.11 | Thanatermesis | thanks a lot LordLamer :) |
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| 14:25.11 | elmo40 | moo |
| 14:25.14 | elmo40 | ~moo |
| 14:25.21 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 14:25.26 | keyra | elmo40: bee ]:) |
| 14:26.15 | elmo40 | hermit2: it is daytime, they can be noisy. |
| 14:26.26 | elmo40 | besides, how do you rebuilt something withought noise? |
| 14:27.05 | hermit2 | well, its not as bad as when they repaved the road last yr :) |
| 14:27.45 | hermit2 | the machine that grades the dirt shakes the whole house like there's an earth quake or something |
| 14:31.21 | Thybo | any easy way to update the system tools to the next version? |
| 14:38.09 | elmo40 | Thybo: easy? update? |
| 14:38.14 | elmo40 | lol, what system tools? |
| 14:38.37 | Thybo | system tools backend |
| 14:47.11 | elmo40 | can anyone view the images on this page? Or is it just me :/ http://tinyurl.com/2pa2w5 |
| 14:47.57 | hermit2 | have to install a plugin |
| 14:49.54 | Thybo | me too |
| 14:50.07 | hermit2 | what browser? |
| 14:50.17 | hermit2 | I'm using opera |
| 14:50.32 | Thybo | firefox |
| 14:50.50 | hermit2 | does it tell you which plugin? |
| 14:50.59 | elmo40 | i think in windoze, it uses quicktime to view the images! |
| 14:51.02 | elmo40 | .tiff |
| 14:51.12 | Thybo | yeah |
| 14:52.00 | elmo40 | see, more foibles of linux... plus, the stupid act of the patent office for using an embedded quicktime image viewr! |
| 14:52.51 | elmo40 | damn! |
| 14:53.04 | hermit2 | but I have a quicktime plugin... |
| 14:53.08 | elmo40 | links2 -g will show them!! But firefox doesnt? How strange |
| 14:53.24 | elmo40 | hermit2: for video/audio, not .tiff images (i dont think anyways) |
| 14:53.38 | hermit2 | hmm, maybe |
| 14:53.50 | elmo40 | but, links2 will show them. |
| 14:53.53 | elmo40 | how strange |
| 14:55.13 | Thybo | links2 |
| 14:55.14 | Thybo | ? |
| 14:55.18 | Thybo | wow yeah real strange |
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| 15:00.53 | elmo40 | tell me about it |
| 15:06.11 | Thybo | wizard124, |
| 15:06.15 | Thybo | i found the thing |
| 15:06.31 | Thybo | uninstall with conf file elpanel and reinstal it |
| 15:06.35 | Thybo | and it works :) |
| 15:07.56 | wizard124 | hmm |
| 15:08.41 | Thybo | coz elpanel removes too system conf i don't know what |
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| 16:01.21 | Thybo | hey PrinceAMD how R u? |
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| 16:02.36 | Thybo | www.musique.Xdir.org/networkadminthing.jpeg |
| 16:02.44 | Thybo | anybody ever see that? |
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| 16:06.38 | PrinceAMD | Thybo, i'm ok |
| 16:07.08 | PrinceAMD | Thybo, i just found 6cd with elive on them |
| 16:07.24 | PrinceAMD | from way back since 0.4.2 was out |
| 16:07.34 | PrinceAMD | i gave a way a frew |
| 16:07.45 | hermit2 | nope, haven't seen that.. what are you trying to run |
| 16:07.48 | PrinceAMD | i think most of them range from Elive Rl2 - 0.6.7 |
| 16:08.18 | PrinceAMD | hermit2, how r u? |
| 16:08.24 | PrinceAMD | Thybo, how r u? |
| 16:08.30 | hermit2 | I am good |
| 16:09.14 | PrinceAMD | kool |
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| 16:21.25 | Thybo | sorry was in the showa |
| 16:22.45 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:22.56 | PrinceAMD | Thybo, ever tried bsd before/ |
| 16:23.31 | PrinceAMD | Elive - BSD Edition hehe would be cool i think |
| 16:23.33 | Thybo | yop |
| 16:23.42 | Thybo | had bsd on a old compaq |
| 16:23.42 | PrinceAMD | Thybo, do u like it? |
| 16:23.43 | Thybo | worked fine |
| 16:23.46 | Thybo | well |
| 16:23.47 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 16:24.03 | Thybo | i honestly didn't do much difference with other distroes as for the pure using part |
| 16:24.48 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:25.10 | Thybo | but now, "they" say its secure and all ;) |
| 16:25.45 | Thybo | hermit2, i was running network admin |
| 16:26.20 | Thybo | the thing is i uninstalled and reinstalled all elpanel that is elpanel and 2 other packages |
| 16:27.34 | Thybo | and know i get this unknown distro thing weird |
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| 16:31.44 | hermit2 | definately weird |
| 16:32.46 | PrinceAMD | lo |
| 16:33.46 | Thybo | yop |
| 16:33.58 | Thybo | im sort of doing the weirdo activity around here |
| 16:34.28 | PrinceAMD | lol |
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| 16:37.09 | Thybo | GPLGeek, maybe u can help meee:d |
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| 16:38.16 | GPLGeek | maybe I can help myself |
| 16:38.24 | GPLGeek | I'm having all sorts of problems |
| 16:38.43 | GPLGeek | I've got an entire bagle and I need to figure out a way to get it into my stomach |
| 16:38.57 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 16:39.06 | hermit2 | one bite at a time |
| 16:39.18 | GPLGeek | I was thinking of making a bagle smoothie |
| 16:39.32 | keyra | GPLGeek: bee ]:) |
| 16:39.35 | GPLGeek | willitblend.com is being used as a research library |
| 16:40.01 | GPLGeek | what's wrong Thybo |
| 16:40.01 | Thybo | looooool |
| 16:40.09 | Thybo | www.musique.Xdir.org/networkadminthing.jpeg |
| 16:40.12 | Thybo | this is wrong |
| 16:40.14 | Thybo | after i |
| 16:40.19 | Thybo | the thing is i uninstalled and reinstalled all elpanel that is elpanel and 2 other packages |
| 16:40.58 | GPLGeek | works like debian etch! |
| 16:41.37 | GPLGeek | hmm |
| 16:42.00 | GPLGeek | all elpanel that is elpanel AND 2 other packages. |
| 16:42.03 | GPLGeek | that's damn specific |
| 16:42.23 | GPLGeek | and why the bloody hell did you do this? |
| 16:43.13 | GPLGeek | ok |
| 16:43.18 | GPLGeek | i know how to fix this theme thing |
| 16:43.23 | Thybo | hm |
| 16:43.28 | Thybo | the thing is |
| 16:43.37 | Thybo | i had this error in network-admin |
| 16:43.51 | Thybo | of password |
| 16:43.57 | Thybo | but after the opening of network admin |
| 16:44.06 | Thybo | and wizard123 found the bug report on internet |
| 16:44.11 | Thybo | and i mailed the guy that file it |
| 16:44.20 | keyra | Thybo: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 16:44.22 | Thybo | he told me that the bug was gone with the last version |
| 16:44.30 | Thybo | apt: kick keyra |
| 16:44.32 | apt | ACTION kicks keyra |
| 16:45.03 | Thybo | but last version of system-tools-backends |
| 16:45.11 | Thybo | so i guessed i had to reinstall that |
| 16:45.24 | Thybo | so reinstalled it but it goes with system tools and elpanel |
| 16:45.28 | Thybo | and now |
| 16:45.30 | Thybo | works fine |
| 16:45.41 | Thybo | but i have this "error" every time i open network-admin |
| 16:45.52 | GPLGeek | gtk-chtheme |
| 16:45.56 | GPLGeek | type it now' |
| 16:46.00 | GPLGeek | do it do it |
| 16:46.21 | Thybo | uhu and? |
| 16:46.34 | Thybo | its the theme chooser from elpanel somwhere |
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| 16:46.54 | GPLGeek | if you choose a theme I think that message goes away |
| 16:47.08 | GPLGeek | you should have that package already |
| 16:47.17 | Thybo | i have night theme |
| 16:47.50 | GPLGeek | and then make the system work like sarge, if there is no etch entry |
| 16:48.19 | GPLGeek | your gtk theme is not your elive theme |
| 16:48.20 | Thybo | chose theme and "apply" |
| 16:48.45 | Thybo | put default is that of any good? |
| 16:48.46 | GPLGeek | I think thats the science of it |
| 16:48.56 | Thybo | than i open net-admin |
| 16:48.59 | Thybo | and asks me again |
| 16:49.01 | Thybo | so i put etch |
| 16:49.09 | GPLGeek | try putting the name of a theme |
| 16:49.09 | Thybo | but i think if i reopen its gonna reask me |
| 16:49.17 | GPLGeek | instead of default |
| 16:49.24 | Thybo | hicolor? |
| 16:49.32 | Thybo | industrial? |
| 16:49.40 | GPLGeek | i dont care what one |
| 16:49.45 | Thybo | or the Enight |
| 16:49.56 | Thybo | coz 2 windows open actually don't know in whicht to pic |
| 16:51.56 | Thybo | ok now no matter what window i change the theme on |
| 16:52.00 | Thybo | still get that thing |
| 16:52.38 | GPLGeek | Your site elivedev.org was suspended because it consumed an excessive amount of resources. |
| 16:52.50 | GPLGeek | fuck them |
| 16:52.59 | GPLGeek | they are just doing that because I canceled my dev pack |
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| 16:58.12 | Thybo | lol |
| 16:58.14 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:58.24 | Thybo | what host? |
| 17:03.58 | GPLGeek | midphase is a piece of shit |
| 17:04.13 | GPLGeek | they lie to me all the time |
| 17:04.56 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:05.21 | GPLGeek | now they are trying to make me buy a dedicated server they said its in my contract that if I go over 10% resources at any time that I'd buy a full 219$/month plan with 45$ in service upgrades |
| 17:05.38 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:05.41 | Thybo | wow |
| 17:05.48 | GPLGeek | thats not in the contract I signed, they just changed the contract |
| 17:05.51 | Thybo | they do business and they are defenently not kidding |
| 17:05.53 | Thybo | well |
| 17:05.55 | GPLGeek | like literally dated this morning |
| 17:05.58 | Thybo | call a lawyer |
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| 17:07.52 | Thybo | ull both make money |
| 17:08.29 | GPLGeek | quote "your site is only in violation because on your front page you said and I quote 'my host sucks and I may have to switch to gplgeek.com on another server' |
| 17:08.32 | GPLGeek | " |
| 17:09.26 | Thybo | looooooooooooooooooooooool |
| 17:09.35 | Thybo | this has got to enter in the best of |
| 17:09.36 | Thybo | s |
| 17:09.37 | Thybo | hahahahahahahhaa |
| 17:12.14 | elmo40 | Thybo: i have never been able to view that www.musique.Xdir.org link. |
| 17:13.25 | elmo40 | is elpanel in the vobcopy repo? |
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| 17:14.15 | elmo40 | it is. I keep forgetting the apt-cache policy command ;) |
| 17:14.47 | Thybo | www.musique.Xdir.org/networkadminthing.jpeg |
| 17:14.51 | Thybo | the thing is |
| 17:15.01 | Thybo | maybe its a blok from isp or something |
| 17:15.07 | Thybo | that takes Xdir like porno site lol |
| 17:15.29 | Thybo | i had i firefox extension like that |
| 17:15.30 | elmo40 | i get a 'cant find it' error |
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| 17:15.36 | Thybo | hm |
| 17:15.39 | Thybo | try with other browser |
| 17:15.42 | Thybo | try with wget |
| 17:15.52 | elmo40 | links2 cant find it |
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| 17:15.58 | elmo40 | 'host not found' |
| 17:16.11 | Thybo | wget? |
| 17:16.11 | Maximiliano | hola gente |
| 17:16.16 | Thybo | hola Maximiliano :) |
| 17:16.17 | elmo40 | you have to STOP sending it with a X. |
| 17:16.18 | Maximiliano | hello people |
| 17:16.22 | elmo40 | needs to be x, not X |
| 17:16.26 | keyra | Maximiliano: que tal ? |
| 17:16.32 | Thybo | hmm |
| 17:16.37 | Thybo | thats how it shows up on site |
| 17:16.38 | Maximiliano | bien aqui... comenzando la rutina |
| 17:16.39 | keyra | Maximiliano: hi |
| 17:16.43 | Thybo | i just copy paste |
| 17:16.47 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra |
| 17:16.56 | apt | ACTION shoots a ionized pseudoneutron gun at keyra |
| 17:16.57 | elmo40 | screw the site. there are no such things as capital letters! |
| 17:17.06 | elmo40 | apt: kill keyra |
| 17:17.08 | apt | ACTION shoots a charged tachyon gun at keyra |
| 17:17.15 | elmo40 | apt: shake Thybo |
| 17:17.24 | Ezep | apt:kill keyra |
| 17:17.25 | apt | ACTION shoots a inverse fluxpositrino gun at keyra |
| 17:17.25 | Thybo | apt: kick elmo40 |
| 17:17.27 | apt | ACTION kicks elmo40 |
| 17:17.28 | roxville | apt, hug keyra |
| 17:17.30 | apt | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs keyra |
| 17:17.36 | roxville | lol |
| 17:17.40 | Thybo | apt: give a cookie to roxville |
| 17:17.42 | apt | ACTION gives cookie to roxville to a |
| 17:17.51 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:17.59 | roxville | :) |
| 17:18.00 | elmo40 | Thybo: what is that PCInpact thing in the upper corner? |
| 17:18.04 | elmo40 | roxville: afternoon |
| 17:18.10 | roxville | hiya :) |
| 17:18.13 | Thybo | hmm |
| 17:18.14 | Thybo | erss |
| 17:18.18 | Thybo | rss displayer |
| 17:18.36 | elmo40 | nice. on the desktop? transparent? with urxvt? |
| 17:18.38 | Maximiliano | mmmm keyra is a bot... ? |
| 17:18.42 | elmo40 | Maximiliano: yes |
| 17:18.45 | elmo40 | so is apt |
| 17:18.47 | Maximiliano | jajaja |
| 17:18.52 | keyra | Maximiliano: you think it ? |
| 17:19.06 | Thybo | nope |
| 17:19.08 | Thybo | its erss |
| 17:19.10 | Thybo | u can insall it |
| 17:19.34 | Maximiliano | every time i speak to bots... :( |
| 17:20.16 | elmo40 | i tried, said it was dependent on efl-all cvs20060518, but i already have efl-all cvs20070216 :( |
| 17:20.19 | elmo40 | cant get it |
| 17:20.25 | elmo40 | Maximiliano: how are things? |
| 17:20.42 | elmo40 | Thybo: you must have an older E installed. |
| 17:20.46 | elmo40 | you running e16? |
| 17:21.11 | Thybo | nope e 17 |
| 17:21.18 | Thybo | but not the last last cvs version |
| 17:21.22 | Thybo | im running regular version |
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| 17:21.32 | elmo40 | 'regular' ? That is .027? |
| 17:21.46 | elmo40 | you not running the 'tests' repo from vobcopy? |
| 17:22.19 | Thybo | nope |
| 17:22.24 | Thybo | the one that comes in install cd ;) |
| 17:22.29 | elmo40 | ok |
| 17:22.38 | elmo40 | so .026 or something like that/ |
| 17:22.39 | elmo40 | ? |
| 17:23.29 | GPLGeek | my host literally deleted every other folder on my server |
| 17:23.53 | GPLGeek | left one, killed next, left one, killed next, and so on |
| 17:24.13 | GPLGeek | they gave me the account back but they sabotaged it. |
| 17:24.41 | Thybo | elmo40: no idea |
| 17:24.53 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:24.59 | Thybo | GPLGeek, life is a big plot |
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| 17:25.31 | FreeEagle | hi al |
| 17:25.33 | FreeEagle | all |
| 17:25.54 | FreeEagle | GPLGeek, can i ask you somthing please ? |
| 17:26.20 | Thybo | FreeEagle, of course not!!! how dare you bother GPLGeek-the-Great? |
| 17:26.25 | GPLGeek | No you used up your one question per day, the question you asked was " GPLGeek, can i ask you somthing please ? " |
| 17:26.31 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 17:26.37 | Thybo | hahahha |
| 17:26.47 | GPLGeek | I'm just messing with you, whats up FreeEagle |
| 17:27.00 | FreeEagle | hehehe |
| 17:27.01 | FreeEagle | nop |
| 17:27.20 | FreeEagle | Okay, i get the Info mail about the new Development of Elive |
| 17:27.40 | FreeEagle | i just want to upgrade my Distro to the last development one |
| 17:28.00 | FreeEagle | can you tell me how can i do this, as long as i am a Newbie |
| 17:30.11 | elmo40 | get the new .iso :/ |
| 17:30.54 | elmo40 | i think Thanatermesis said something about elive-skel command, but dont know how to use it |
| 17:31.09 | keyra | elmo40: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 17:31.18 | GPLGeek | type su |
| 17:31.22 | GPLGeek | in console |
| 17:31.23 | roxville | FreeEagle, the best you can do, is get the iso, burn it and use the upgrade feature in the installer |
| 17:31.35 | GPLGeek | that gets you to super user mode, you have to put your root password in |
| 17:31.37 | roxville | to get the latest kernel changes, etc |
| 17:31.38 | GPLGeek | when it asks for the password |
| 17:31.49 | GPLGeek | then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 17:31.58 | GPLGeek | you should be updated! |
| 17:32.01 | roxville | but of course you can always run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:32.03 | GPLGeek | but |
| 17:32.08 | GPLGeek | if you are .6.6 or earlier |
| 17:32.16 | FreeEagle | i have .6.6 |
| 17:32.16 | keyra | roxville: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 17:32.17 | GPLGeek | you need to change the /apt/sources.list |
| 17:32.35 | GPLGeek | there is info about that in the MOTD |
| 17:32.39 | GPLGeek | article 58 |
| 17:32.51 | roxville | also FreeEagle, since the debian repo that elive uses just turned stable, you need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:33.04 | roxville | change everything "testing" to "etch" |
| 17:33.06 | keyra | roxville: this is a FAQ question, read http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
| 17:33.14 | GPLGeek | , please edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and in the debian repositories change the word testing to etch |
| 17:33.20 | GPLGeek | this also must be done as root |
| 17:33.20 | roxville | ok keyra i am soooooo sorry! |
| 17:33.25 | FreeEagle | this is , i did it already, i mean i changed them to etch |
| 17:33.34 | keyra | roxville: np :) |
| 17:33.38 | FreeEagle | and then i did apt-get update |
| 17:33.42 | GPLGeek | once you su you can type the name of your favorite file edit program to run a root version of it |
| 17:33.46 | FreeEagle | and apt-upgrade |
| 17:33.53 | GPLGeek | then you can select the file |
| 17:34.03 | GPLGeek | oh good |
| 17:34.22 | FreeEagle | does this means that i have now the last distro ? |
| 17:34.30 | GPLGeek | yes you should. |
| 17:34.31 | FreeEagle | or just the .6.6 with the update ? |
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| 17:35.32 | elmo40 | well, what about adding tests to vobcopy? Should he get into that? |
| 17:35.40 | GPLGeek | well, .6.7 has a new installer and a few boot-time changes, but the software is all the same versions now |
| 17:36.07 | GPLGeek | elmo40, I only use tests when I know there is a specific package that I want to test and I pull them out one by one |
| 17:36.18 | elmo40 | oh? |
| 17:36.20 | FreeEagle | Dear GPLGeek : why when i do the update i get this message repo that elive uses just turned stable, you need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:36.21 | elmo40 | i use it all the time ;) |
| 17:36.36 | GPLGeek | I don't reccomend a newbie use tests repository unless its on a virtual machine, that way they can still play with it but not pay the price of blowing their system up |
| 17:36.50 | keyra | GPLGeek: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 17:36.54 | FreeEagle | sorry mistake |
| 17:36.56 | FreeEagle | wait wait |
| 17:37.41 | FreeEagle | i get this Ing http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages/diffIndex |
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| 17:39.13 | GPLGeek | apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring , mirror should look like deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia stable main |
| 17:39.31 | GPLGeek | in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:40.39 | FreeEagle | wait i will check it out now |
| 17:41.26 | FreeEagle | no i do not have such a thing in the mirror list |
| 17:41.27 | FreeEagle | :S |
| 17:41.29 | FreeEagle | Strange |
| 17:42.30 | elmo40 | it will be the last one in the list |
| 17:43.44 | FreeEagle | i checked it out |
| 17:43.54 | FreeEagle | but i have a nother list :S |
| 17:43.57 | Thybo | how do u restart alsa? |
| 17:43.58 | FreeEagle | _( |
| 17:44.49 | FreeEagle | I have the last one deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main |
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| 17:45.32 | GPLGeek | try |
| 17:45.32 | GPLGeek | deb ftp://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian-multimedia/ stable main |
| 17:45.32 | GPLGeek | deb-src ftp://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian-multimedia/ stable main |
| 17:46.45 | FreeEagle | wait wait wait |
| 17:46.53 | FreeEagle | what should at first i remove ? |
| 17:47.12 | FreeEagle | then where should i put these both , instead of what ? |
| 17:49.13 | GPLGeek | instead of debian-multimedia line |
| 17:49.29 | dats | debian power ;) |
| 17:49.29 | GPLGeek | then apt-get update |
| 17:49.44 | GPLGeek | dats, Heil Debian! |
| 17:50.14 | dats | GPLGeek: oh!!! YES!!!!! |
| 17:50.14 | keyra | GPLGeek: Debian r00lz ! |
| 17:50.14 | dats | of course!! :) |
| 17:50.21 | FreeEagle | okay |
| 17:50.28 | FreeEagle | i will do it now |
| 17:50.32 | FreeEagle | one sec please |
| 17:50.44 | Thybo | GPLGeek, how do u restart alsa? |
| 17:50.50 | Thybo | coz reload doesn't do any good |
| 17:50.56 | Thybo | and i have a micro problem |
| 17:51.04 | GPLGeek | If you would excuse me I must leave rapidly to avoid more questiosn. |
| 17:51.29 | GPLGeek | have you tried using elpanel to re-configure alsa? |
| 17:51.33 | GPLGeek | it will stop and then start it |
| 17:51.36 | FreeEagle | its working now and i am doing now update and upgrade |
| 17:51.46 | GPLGeek | and you can make sure the settings are right |
| 17:52.02 | GPLGeek | FreeEagle, =) easier than windows update |
| 17:52.06 | FreeEagle | is that all what i should do GPLGeek |
| 17:52.17 | GPLGeek | because with windows update its automatic and then you cant boot your computer because it's crashed. |
| 17:52.18 | FreeEagle | yes it is |
| 17:52.23 | Thybo | ok thaks GPLGeek :) |
| 17:52.31 | FreeEagle | thanks alot GPLGeek |
| 17:52.48 | GPLGeek | FreeEagle, you should be free to use your system, apt-get install nexuiz and some of it's reccomended packages and have fun! |
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| 17:52.51 | GPLGeek | play a game or something |
| 17:52.53 | GPLGeek | you deserve it |
| 17:52.57 | FreeEagle | GPLGeek, but still the same problem with other misrors |
| 17:53.01 | jirah | Thanatermesis, aparecete carajo!! |
| 17:53.01 | FreeEagle | Mirrors |
| 17:53.03 | GPLGeek | nexuiz is a shooter game |
| 17:53.15 | GPLGeek | what problem exactly? |
| 17:53.45 | FreeEagle | i do not understand why i get these messages always when i do update |
| 17:53.59 | keyra | FreeEagle: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 17:54.01 | FreeEagle | Ing http://ftp.fr.debian.org ...... |
| 17:54.03 | FreeEagle | and |
| 17:54.04 | GPLGeek | maybe we need a apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:54.09 | Thybo | ~seen Thanatermesis |
| 17:54.47 | apt | thanatermesis is currently on #elive (9h 47m 49s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 4h 15m 36s, last said: 'thanks a lot LordLamer :)'. |
| 17:54.48 | diabetik | Thybo: Thanatermesis was last seen in #elive 4 hours, 14 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <Thanatermesis> thanks a lot LordLamer :) |
| 17:54.48 | FreeEagle | for vobcopy |
| 17:54.48 | FreeEagle | also |
| 17:55.23 | jirah | i provide a mirror on http://elive.homogenica.com/ |
| 17:55.26 | jirah | :) |
| 17:56.19 | roxville | bbl |
| 17:56.19 | FreeEagle | i did , but the apt just updated one package and removed another one |
| 17:56.23 | FreeEagle | thats all :) |
| 17:56.50 | GPLGeek | are you getting any errors still when you update or upgrade? |
| 17:57.00 | GPLGeek | and what exactly do they say |
| 17:57.01 | FreeEagle | no |
| 17:57.12 | GPLGeek | oh then you should be up to date |
| 17:57.17 | FreeEagle | wait let me show you this in a |
| 17:57.22 | FreeEagle | Screenshot |
| 17:57.23 | FreeEagle | okay |
| 17:57.25 | GPLGeek | ok |
| 17:59.20 | m_f_p | e17 rulezzz ;) |
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| 18:01.09 | Elive_user26 | http://www.pastebin.ca/450218 <- Elive .6.7 sources out-of-box this is how they look |
| 18:01.44 | Elive_user26 | you can copy that if you like into sources.list to make sure that everything is right |
| 18:02.10 | GPLGeek | eliveuser26 is my non-modified elive virtual machine |
| 18:02.18 | Thybo | :) |
| 18:03.17 | m_f_p | GPLGeek: can i make to you a query/private message, please ? |
| 18:03.50 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:03.59 | Thybo | GPLGeek, is a married man m_f_p :p |
| 18:04.04 | m_f_p | i want speak with you of one problem |
| 18:04.11 | m_f_p | of e channel |
| 18:04.15 | m_f_p | Thybo: no .... |
| 18:04.18 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:04.24 | m_f_p | i don't want marry with no body |
| 18:05.12 | m_f_p | i'm a single person |
| 18:05.20 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:05.22 | Thybo | ahaaa |
| 18:05.24 | Thybo | a free relation |
| 18:05.26 | Thybo | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 18:05.31 | m_f_p | Thybo: noooooooooooooo |
| 18:05.55 | m_f_p | i don't want have any relation with anybody |
| 18:06.07 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:06.16 | Thybo | whatever it is u can say it here |
| 18:06.21 | m_f_p | no relation of love |
| 18:06.25 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:06.26 | m_f_p | Thybo: mmm |
| 18:06.30 | Thybo | m_f_p, i was kidding |
| 18:06.38 | GPLGeek | ok |
| 18:06.39 | m_f_p | becouse i'm banned from e |
| 18:06.45 | GPLGeek | m_f_p, you can pm me |
| 18:06.45 | Thybo | for what? |
| 18:07.01 | m_f_p | becouse i paste 10 times one url .... |
| 18:07.07 | m_f_p | and kainx don't like it ... |
| 18:07.14 | Thybo | well shouldn't have |
| 18:07.19 | m_f_p | then, i wanted talk with him ... |
| 18:07.31 | m_f_p | but ... he hates me ... |
| 18:07.41 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:07.46 | m_f_p | GPLGeek: is for that the p.m. |
| 18:08.07 | GPLGeek | nobody has messaged me yet, im waiting |
| 18:09.09 | m_f_p | o ... |
| 18:09.11 | m_f_p | ,mmm |
| 18:09.25 | Thybo | ahhh dats u? |
| 18:09.25 | Thybo | hahaha |
| 18:09.54 | dats | Thybo: yes, i'm dats |
| 18:09.58 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:10.03 | Thybo | and dats got banned ? |
| 18:10.05 | Thybo | or other nick? |
| 18:10.30 | dats | Thybo: my ip is banned for always |
| 18:10.31 | GPLGeek | banned from what? im totally out of it an distracted |
| 18:10.39 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:10.44 | keyra | dats: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 18:10.47 | Thybo | do like me |
| 18:10.54 | Thybo | have a dynamic ip :d |
| 18:11.06 | dats | Thybo: i have a static ip |
| 18:12.12 | Thybo | i know |
| 18:12.19 | Thybo | u can ask to change it thoug,) |
| 18:12.20 | Thybo | ;) |
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| 18:13.01 | dats | Thybo: no ... |
| 18:13.09 | PrinceAMD | hi |
| 18:13.09 | Thybo | dats: yes |
| 18:13.16 | Thybo | contact your isp |
| 18:13.22 | PrinceAMD | ha... i'm using PC-SD |
| 18:13.23 | Thybo | they can't refuse u to change ip |
| 18:13.23 | dats | if at any time, i can join to e ... i join with my ip |
| 18:13.29 | PrinceAMD | PC-BSD |
| 18:13.31 | Thybo | pcbsd ? |
| 18:13.39 | PrinceAMD | wizard123 ping |
| 18:13.42 | Thybo | lol |
| 18:13.44 | PrinceAMD | caim ping |
| 18:14.05 | PrinceAMD | i dont know how to install stuff or the package manager |
| 18:14.07 | Thybo | bsd ping |
| 18:14.12 | Thybo | hmm |
| 18:14.17 | Thybo | its quite simple as i recall |
| 18:14.20 | Thybo | its on kde right? |
| 18:15.13 | Thybo | in the system menu or something like that u got something |
| 18:16.02 | Thybo | be back in a sec |
| 18:16.06 | PrinceAMD | yes kde |
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| 18:16.20 | Thybo | hmm look in the menu |
| 18:16.26 | Thybo | installing software isnt far |
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| 18:24.26 | dats | see you properly |
| 18:24.28 | dats | xao |
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| 18:32.04 | wizard123 | PrinceAMD: pong |
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| 18:43.17 | caim | PrinceAMD, |
| 18:43.25 | caim | yes? |
| 18:43.55 | PrinceAMD | caim, i'm using DesktopBSD |
| 18:44.06 | caim | :) |
| 18:44.11 | PrinceAMD | never used bsd and i remember u telling me how much u liked it |
| 18:44.31 | PrinceAMD | so i think of you as my trainer and google of course |
| 18:44.59 | caim | PrinceAMD, hehe i never tried desktopbsd |
| 18:45.19 | caim | but if i can help u with anything, just ask |
| 18:45.59 | PrinceAMD | good :) |
| 18:46.04 | caim | PrinceAMD, why not freebsd? |
| 18:46.15 | PrinceAMD | well i never got it to install |
| 18:46.16 | caim | its easy and good for learning |
| 18:46.26 | PrinceAMD | but desktopbsd is based on freebsd |
| 18:47.14 | caim | PrinceAMD, yes, but its not the same |
| 18:47.32 | PrinceAMD | k |
| 18:47.51 | PrinceAMD | i'll try FreeBSD again, i have to download it |
| 18:47.57 | caim | PrinceAMD, i really dont know how desktopbsd is |
| 18:47.59 | PrinceAMD | maybe tomorrow we'll do some tests |
| 18:48.04 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 18:48.13 | PrinceAMD | oh not desktopbsd |
| 18:48.18 | PrinceAMD | PC-BSD |
| 18:48.24 | PrinceAMD | sorry |
| 18:48.41 | caim | PrinceAMD, i heard of it |
| 18:48.54 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 18:49.22 | caim | both forks are based on freebsd, desktops and pcbsd |
| 18:49.52 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 18:51.50 | caim | PrinceAMD, and how are doing with ur bsd? |
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| 18:54.48 | Skovanden | Ahh.. nothing like a 3 hour nap in the middle of the day |
| 18:56.00 | PrinceAMD | caim, good so far |
| 18:56.08 | PrinceAMD | no problem so far |
| 18:56.16 | caim | PrinceAMD, look at some of my fbsd screenshots |
| 18:56.39 | PrinceAMD | caim, like in elive i press ctrl+alt+f1 and i get a big terminal how do i do that in bsd? |
| 18:56.52 | PrinceAMD | can i see some of your shots? |
| 18:57.09 | caim | PrinceAMD, thats a enlightenment hot key i think |
| 18:57.23 | keyra | caim: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 18:57.24 | PrinceAMD | no it's not |
| 18:57.35 | PrinceAMD | i think it a ttys01 |
| 18:57.39 | PrinceAMD | or something |
| 18:57.51 | caim | PrinceAMD, ahh |
| 18:57.59 | caim | i see when u go out of the Xserver |
| 18:58.01 | caim | ? |
| 18:58.25 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 18:58.31 | caim | PrinceAMD, the screenshots are on the link i gave u now |
| 18:59.13 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 18:59.19 | PrinceAMD | i'm looking there all nice |
| 18:59.26 | PrinceAMD | i think u are using blackbox |
| 18:59.28 | caim | PrinceAMD, heh i can go to ttys1 from here |
| 18:59.32 | caim | PrinceAMD, fluxbox :D |
| 18:59.38 | PrinceAMD | damn |
| 18:59.52 | PrinceAMD | how to go to ttys1 |
| 19:00.29 | PrinceAMD | i want to go to prompt before X server started |
| 19:00.32 | caim | haha u should go to ttys1 just like me and everybody else |
| 19:01.01 | caim | PrinceAMD, lets see |
| 19:01.16 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 19:02.48 | caim | PrinceAMD, was ur keyboard well configured? |
| 19:03.05 | PrinceAMD | i think so |
| 19:03.25 | PrinceAMD | i fuckin hope so |
| 19:04.16 | caim | PrinceAMD :D |
| 19:04.28 | caim | PrinceAMD, find ur xorg.conf |
| 19:04.44 | caim | and take a look |
| 19:05.01 | GPLGeek | I have bad news guys |
| 19:05.08 | GPLGeek | Microsoft is the new SCO |
| 19:05.34 | GPLGeek | Since the novel deal and the patent sharing deals with other companies microsoft now claims to own "key components of the linux kernel" |
| 19:05.55 | GPLGeek | they are charnging companies like samsung, and even some governments for using linux. |
| 19:06.15 | GPLGeek | expect a few hundred lawsuits in the next month |
| 19:06.46 | PrinceAMD | caim, ok |
| 19:06.51 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, that is bad bews |
| 19:06.54 | PrinceAMD | news |
| 19:07.01 | GPLGeek | PrinceAMD, midphase killed elivedev.org |
| 19:07.28 | GPLGeek | they suspended then banned me |
| 19:07.30 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 19:07.38 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, i saw earlier |
| 19:07.47 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, so what are you going to do |
| 19:07.56 | GPLGeek | they brought it back up but deleted all of the ftp accounts |
| 19:07.57 | PrinceAMD | thana was talking about some dreamhost |
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| 19:08.09 | GPLGeek | ya I think im going to dreamhost |
| 19:08.14 | caim | PrinceAMD, |
| 19:08.43 | GPLGeek | midphase is trying to force me to buy a dedicated server from them they say its in my contract, a contract they made just this morning |
| 19:08.49 | GPLGeek | not the contract I signed on to |
| 19:09.02 | GPLGeek | they think they can just change my contract every day as it suits them |
| 19:09.11 | GPLGeek | they had already changed my services without asking or telling me |
| 19:09.37 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 19:09.39 | PrinceAMD | wtf |
| 19:09.42 | Elive_user7 | ej your speek polish men |
| 19:09.43 | PrinceAMD | that's crazy |
| 19:09.49 | PrinceAMD | maybe u should switch |
| 19:09.55 | caim | GPLGeek, where did u read those news? |
| 19:10.07 | GPLGeek | caim, samsung was bitching about it |
| 19:10.25 | GPLGeek | they said ms made them licence linux, and they did because ms said they would sue them and then buy them otherwise |
| 19:11.00 | GPLGeek | they said that ms has the legal strongarm because they have enough money and lawyers and just bombard companies with paperwork and supoenas left and right for unreasonable reasons at unreasonable times. |
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| 19:11.26 | caim | GPLGeek, dont u have any url for me to read it? |
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| 19:12.12 | GPLGeek | http://www.itweek.co.uk/vnunet/news/2188191/microsoft-signs-samsung-linux here is the first link that came up on google |
| 19:12.15 | GPLGeek | its all over the news |
| 19:12.25 | caim | GPLGeek, thanks |
| 19:12.55 | GPLGeek | I saw it on tv, Apple sais it's just another trick, and that MS does not own linux. They said they own linux as much as they own macosx, and thats none. |
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| 19:13.58 | GPLGeek | Apple says that software patents, drm, and licencing has gone way out of control and the companies are not protecting themselves, rather, they are attacking helpless smaller companies or users for profit. |
| 19:14.00 | elmoo | can a few of you guys post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in a pastebin.ca for me? |
| 19:14.34 | elmoo | well, at least the: Section "modules" |
| 19:14.44 | elmoo | i dont need the rest. |
| 19:14.48 | GPLGeek | mine wont help you. |
| 19:15.22 | Elive_user26 | Section "Module" |
| 19:15.22 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.22 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.22 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.22 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.22 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.26 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.29 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.32 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.32 | elmoo | what is the i2c? |
| 19:15.38 | Elive_user26 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.41 | elmoo | and is the int10 for intel cards? |
| 19:15.42 | Elive_user26 | EndSection |
| 19:15.45 | Elive_user26 | thats from a virtual machien |
| 19:15.51 | caim | Elive_user26, pastebin |
| 19:16.26 | GPLGeek | integrated circuts |
| 19:18.12 | caim | GPLGeek, i think ms wont get anything |
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| 19:20.29 | Gwildor_ | wtf, why doin i keep dropping? |
| 19:20.36 | caim | "Only a customer who has SUSE Linux actually has paid properly for the use of intellectual property from Microsoft." |
| 19:20.45 | Gwildor_ | O_o |
| 19:20.53 | Gwildor_ | and i dont care it was a quote |
| 19:21.00 | Gwildor_ | :P |
| 19:21.58 | Gwildor_ | cam? |
| 19:21.58 | elmoo | does anyone know what the i2c is for? |
| 19:22.01 | Gwildor_ | caim, ? |
| 19:22.21 | elmoo | i(square)c, right? |
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| 19:23.02 | caim | Gwildor, ? |
| 19:23.16 | hermit2 | its an inter intergrated circuit bus |
| 19:23.16 | waterploof | heyyy everybody i'm french |
| 19:23.55 | elmoo | waterploof: bonjour |
| 19:24.02 | waterploof | ho un francais :D |
| 19:24.05 | waterploof | salut elmoo |
| 19:24.07 | Gwildor_ | caim, sorry, apprently netowrk issues here... jsut wanted a resonce |
| 19:24.09 | Gwildor_ | responce |
| 19:24.11 | elmoo | hermit2: so an ATI card does not fall under that catagory, right? |
| 19:24.20 | keyra | waterploof: bee ]:) |
| 19:24.28 | waterploof | bi² keyra |
| 19:24.31 | hermit2 | don't think so. its the mobo |
| 19:24.46 | waterploof | someone know, where i can download stable version of elive? |
| 19:24.46 | elmoo | ah, ok. And the "vbe" ? I have not seen that one before. |
| 19:25.11 | elmoo | where can i find these module informations? |
| 19:25.22 | elmoo | are they kernel modules? just being loaded for X ? |
| 19:25.38 | caim | Gwildor, :D |
| 19:25.41 | hermit2 | The VBE standard defines a set of extensions to the VGA ROM BIOS services. |
| 19:26.21 | waterploof | someone know, where i can download stable version of elive? |
| 19:26.23 | hermit2 | google, elmoo |
| 19:26.27 | elmoo | lol |
| 19:26.30 | elmoo | ya ya, i know. |
| 19:26.53 | elmoo | but typing in Modules gets me thousands of pages. These are specific to xorg? |
| 19:27.01 | hermit2 | I think all that is available is thwe 0.6.7 version waterploof |
| 19:27.31 | hermit2 | do linux modules.. or kernel modules |
| 19:27.39 | hermit2 | or seach each one |
| 19:27.48 | waterploof | don't use difficult english, i'm french, so slowly please =) |
| 19:27.58 | waterploof | thanks |
| 19:28.13 | hermit2 | 0.6.7 only |
| 19:28.23 | waterploof | where? |
| 19:28.31 | waterploof | link ? |
| 19:28.55 | waterploof | i've found a download mirror, but i download at 6ko/s |
| 19:29.51 | hermit2 | there are problems with mirrors. |
| 19:30.30 | hermit2 | http://elive.homogenica.com/development/ |
| 19:30.42 | hermit2 | You try that one? |
| 19:31.34 | waterploof | humm no, not development |
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| 19:32.19 | hermit2 | you want development. its better. |
| 19:32.19 | waterploof | no stable version ? |
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| 19:32.52 | waterploof | i'm not a geek :D, just test. |
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| 19:33.42 | hermit2 | many fixes in development. It works very well. |
| 19:34.43 | elmo40 | the reasonwhy i wanted the xorg.conf, was becauseon some distros, i get a line: [direct rendering: No] and some [direct rendering: Yes] when I type glxinfo. |
| 19:35.01 | elmo40 | with Elive, it is a No :( |
| 19:35.07 | elmo40 | with Sidux, it is a Yes :) |
| 19:35.21 | hermit2 | different driver? |
| 19:35.23 | elmo40 | this really limits my gaming potential! |
| 19:35.29 | waterploof | i've a yes on my zenwalk :D |
| 19:35.34 | elmo40 | hrmm, possibly. I didnt look at that one :/ |
| 19:35.37 | waterploof | graphical acceleration |
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| 20:26.21 | duvelr | Hola a todos! |
| 20:27.25 | duvelr | :) |
| 20:33.16 | elmo40 | damn! I tried to play a game, it altered my resolution to something like 800x600, how do i change it back? |
| 20:33.17 | Gwildor_ | elpanel |
| 20:33.34 | elmo40 | it doesnt |
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| 20:35.45 | Skovanden | Gwildor_ you are so gayish :P |
| 20:36.17 | Gwildor_ | probably |
| 20:36.32 | Skovanden | :P |
| 20:42.55 | caim | xD |
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| 21:36.06 | felixelgato | he is posible to bundle the elive repositories ( elive's and debian's ) into 1 DVD ? |
| 21:36.25 | Thybo | lol |
| 21:36.27 | Thybo | 1 no.. |
| 21:36.29 | Thybo | 10 maybe |
| 21:36.32 | Thybo | but not sure |
| 21:37.18 | lordlamer | hrm. debian stable have 3 dvds |
| 21:37.38 | Thybo | no more? |
| 21:37.47 | Thybo | including allllll the possible software? |
| 21:38.11 | lordlamer | no, not more. all 18.000 packages from STABLE are on this 3 dvds |
| 21:38.49 | lordlamer | or you could have fun as disc jokey with 21 cds ;) |
| 21:39.02 | felixelgato | haha |
| 21:42.22 | felixelgato | is there some script over thereto rsync a reposotory with excluding packages AND ALL OF ITS DEPENDENCIES out |
| 21:43.52 | lordlamer | hrm. debmirror? |
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| 21:50.25 | garulfoLinux | hi to all |
| 21:50.36 | garulfoLinux | there is french here ? |
| 21:50.42 | Thybo | lol |
| 21:50.44 | Thybo | oh le bon francais |
| 21:50.45 | Thybo | :d |
| 21:50.51 | garulfoLinux | ha |
| 21:50.52 | garulfoLinux | :D |
| 21:50.54 | garulfoLinux | ca fait plaisir |
| 21:51.10 | garulfoLinux | Thybo, j'ai une petite question sur Elive |
| 21:51.19 | garulfoLinux | Cette distribution est bien libre ?? |
| 21:51.22 | Thybo | pour la prochaine fois: "are there any french in here" |
| 21:51.23 | Thybo | lol |
| 21:51.27 | Thybo | ca dépent ce que tu veu |
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| 21:51.46 | garulfoLinux | Je demande parce que j'ai cru comprends qu'il fallait payer pour télécharger la distrib :( |
| 21:51.50 | Thybo | lol |
| 21:52.01 | Thybo | ben si tu crois que louer un serveur est gratuit :) |
| 21:52.23 | garulfoLinux | elle est gratuite cette distrib ? |
| 21:52.41 | Thybo | ben oui c gratuit |
| 21:52.55 | Thybo | mais les devs que personne ne paye ont des frais de location de serveur |
| 21:53.09 | Thybo | donc tu peu donner 1 € quand tu telecharge ca te change rien, et ca les aide bien |
| 21:53.15 | Thybo | en plus la distrib en vaux le coup |
| 21:53.41 | garulfoLinux | j'ai réussi a trouver un lien pour télécharger la version development |
| 21:53.45 | garulfoLinux | la 0.6.6 |
| 21:53.55 | garulfoLinux | c'est la dernière version ? |
| 21:53.57 | Thybo | la version dev c la .6.7 je crois |
| 21:54.41 | garulfoLinux | ha ben j'arrive pas à mettre la main dessus.. |
| 21:54.47 | Thybo | ben |
| 21:54.58 | Thybo | donne 1 € et tu l'as rapidement et facilement |
| 21:55.06 | Thybo | t contre donner 1 €? |
| 21:55.37 | garulfoLinux | non mais je veux juste essayer cette distrib pour le moment |
| 21:55.54 | Thybo | ouais ... donc tu es contre... |
| 21:56.34 | garulfoLinux | on vas dire que pour le moment oui |
| 21:56.34 | garulfoLinux | :D |
| 21:56.34 | Thybo | dfacon pas de diférence révolutionaire entre la .6.6 et la .6.7 |
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| 21:57.14 | garulfoLinux | Et on peut passer a la .6.7 avec la .6.6 ? |
| 21:58.17 | Thybo | oui tu fais dist-upgrade mais bon |
| 21:59.16 | garulfoLinux | et sinon, il y a un outils pour le partitionnement (pour l'installer aprés si ça me plait ) ? |
| 22:00.12 | Thybo | tu as un script d'installation |
| 22:00.17 | Thybo | tout se fait tout seul |
| 22:00.55 | Thybo | un peu comm ubuntu mais jprefere celui ci |
| 22:01.07 | Thybo | tu veu sauvegarder une partition? |
| 22:01.10 | keyra | Thybo: ubuntu is off topic |
| 22:01.12 | garulfoLinux | ok donc c'est bon allors |
| 22:01.19 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra |
| 22:01.21 | apt | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudoproton gun at keyra |
| 22:01.23 | garulfoLinux | alors* |
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| 22:04.58 | garulfoLinux | Bon je te laisse merci Thybo pour ces infos :) , je regarderai ça demain quand l'iso sera fini |
| 22:05.06 | Thybo | ok |
| 22:05.09 | Thybo | +++ |
| 22:05.12 | garulfoLinux | ++ |
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| 22:28.55 | fachex | hey elivers! |
| 22:29.09 | fachex | where can I find elive 0.6.7? |
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| 22:55.44 | fabian_ | hey |
| 22:56.40 | fabian_ | where can I download elive 0.6.7? |
| 22:58.27 | hermit2 | try here: http://elive.homogenica.com/development/ |
| 22:59.29 | hermit2 | or scroll down a bit to find a couple more here. |
| 22:59.33 | hermit2 | http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/ |
| 23:01.37 | fabian_ | thank you! |
| 23:03.02 | fabian_ | can Baryl be installed on elive? |
| 23:03.08 | Mtraker | no |
| 23:03.16 | Mtraker | sorry |
| 23:03.26 | fabian_ | why? |
| 23:03.39 | Mtraker | beryl can't install with e17 or e16 |
| 23:03.52 | Mtraker | u can install gnome + beryl |
| 23:04.12 | fabian_ | ok |
| 23:13.16 | GPLGeek | strange... ubuntu people are trying to use our repos to get e17, and they say it's working. I can't beleive that. |
| 23:13.30 | keyra | GPLGeek: ubuntu is off topic |
| 23:13.34 | GPLGeek | buntu must have changed glibc and other versions then |
| 23:13.45 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra |
| 23:13.46 | apt | ACTION shoots a charged tachyon gun at keyra |
| 23:13.49 | GPLGeek | I really didn't think it would work |
| 23:14.05 | GPLGeek | I can't test it though because buntu wont install on my systems for some damn reason |
| 23:14.06 | Thybo | lol |
| 23:15.23 | Thybo | thats weir |
| 23:15.24 | Thybo | d |
| 23:15.32 | Thybo | any hardware particularity? |
| 23:16.24 | fabian_ | firefox in elive in my machine is very, very slow to load pages, but not with other distros.. |
| 23:16.38 | fabian_ | anybody experienced the same? |
| 23:16.42 | Thybo | nope |
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| 23:23.04 | GPLGeek | get fasterfox |
| 23:23.07 | GPLGeek | addon |
| 23:26.27 | fabian_ | what's that? |
| 23:26.30 | fabian_ | fasterfox? |
| 23:26.33 | fabian_ | ok |
| 23:26.39 | fabian_ | is it in the reps? |
| 23:30.20 | Thybo | lol |
| 23:30.24 | Thybo | its a firefox add on |
| 23:30.35 | Thybo | u can get it through firefox directly |
| 23:33.37 | fabian_ | ok |
| 23:33.42 | fabian_ | i'll try that |
| 23:37.21 | Thybo | u got it fabian? |
| 23:37.38 | fabian_ | I am downloading 0.6.7 |
| 23:37.56 | fabian_ | I will install that, and if that doesn't make it, I will do that |
| 23:38.14 | fabian_ | I don't want to restart FF now |
| 23:39.36 | fabian_ | is any easy why to make programs like Visual Basic for Linux? I am newbie by the way |
| 23:43.50 | Thybo | lol |
| 23:44.03 | Thybo | if ure a newbie u won't use visual basic |
| 23:45.04 | fabian_ | newbie with LInux |
| 23:45.25 | fabian_ | I am not that great with Visual Basic, I've done very simple stuff |
| 23:45.42 | fabian_ | nothing complex, but the idea of the open source |
| 23:45.46 | hermit2 | there are some cross compilers... you'll have to research it. I assume you know vb doesn't run on linux. |
| 23:45.54 | fabian_ | that I can modify something that already somebody did |
| 23:46.01 | fabian_ | it's very appealing |
| 23:46.10 | fabian_ | correct |
| 23:46.27 | fabian_ | I was thinking something like Visual QT or stuff like that |
| 23:46.32 | fabian_ | :) |
| 23:46.41 | fabian_ | visual python |
| 23:46.44 | fabian_ | haha |
| 23:46.54 | hermit2 | you'll find alot of stuff is done in c |
| 23:47.24 | hermit2 | but also c++, python, java, ruby, and bunches of others |
| 23:49.36 | fabian_ | yes, but I am 30 and I don't think I have much time to learn to write deep codes, |
| 23:49.44 | fabian_ | I'd like something more visual.. |
| 23:50.05 | hermit2 | haa.. I'm 42 and just learning myself :) |
| 23:50.11 | fabian_ | cool |
| 23:50.22 | fabian_ | can you write scripts? |
| 23:50.28 | hermit2 | nope |
| 23:50.56 | hermit2 | not beyond 'Hello World' anyway |
| 23:51.17 | fabian_ | I´d like to be able to modify or customized applications.. |
| 23:51.37 | hermit2 | there are plenty of them out there |
| 23:51.58 | hermit2 | get yourself some source files and look them over |
| 23:53.13 | fabian_ | it's like reading Chinese for me |
| 23:53.27 | keyra | fabian_: Elive in chinese ? well... this is a howto for japanese http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml |
| 23:53.53 | hermit2 | lol... well, you can check out some how-to's.. |
| 23:56.44 | fabian_ | lol |
| 23:56.49 | fabian_ | keyra |
| 23:57.00 | fabian_ | stop those things! |
| 23:57.42 | fabian_ | what do you use elive for hermit2? |
| 23:57.47 | fabian_ | just for fun? |
| 23:59.41 | hermit2 | yup.. just my home system |
| 23:59.42 | GPLGeek | C is the single most universal language to know |
