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| 02:49.55 | elmo40 | ~moo? |
| 02:49.57 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 02:50.09 | keyra | elmo40: bee ]:) |
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| 03:26.33 | apt | A card reveals Death, in reversed position. |
| 03:26.34 | amagus | me singing? |
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| 12:31.15 | Maximiliano | #cafelug |
| 12:31.29 | Maximiliano | sorry |
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| 13:05.12 | elmo40 | Maximiliano: cafelug? |
| 13:10.42 | Maximiliano | elmo40, capital federa linux user group |
| 13:11.27 | Maximiliano | i forgot to add /join before #cafelug... because of that the "sorry" line |
| 13:12.31 | Maximiliano | federal* |
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| 13:31.28 | elmo40 | why say sorry? |
| 13:31.36 | elmo40 | i still do it from time to time ;) |
| 13:31.50 | elmo40 | Maximiliano: capital? |
| 13:31.58 | Thybo | elmo40, u got the address to dl elive unstable? |
| 13:32.29 | elmo40 | has it not changed? |
| 13:32.40 | Thybo | its not on the website |
| 13:32.49 | Thybo | oh wqell |
| 13:32.50 | Thybo | there |
| 13:32.56 | Thybo | not needed anymore hehe |
| 13:34.02 | elmo40 | ok, so u found one? |
| 13:34.26 | Maximiliano | I tried to install e17 yesterday, but my son got sick and I left everything as is |
| 13:38.01 | Maximiliano | elmo40, capital federal is another name to Buenos Aires (Argentina) |
| 13:38.27 | Maximiliano | is like DC to washington |
| 13:39.42 | Thybo | bueno argentino les dejo... chao Maximiliano see you elmo40 :) |
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| 13:46.47 | korozion | How do I tell what version I'm running currently? |
| 13:48.09 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.51 | korozion | ty |
| 13:51.12 | korozion | If I paid for an older download of elive, I need to donate again for a newer one? |
| 13:51.18 | korozion | (not complaining, just wondering) |
| 13:51.35 | PrinceAMD | korozion, i am not sure |
| 13:51.38 | korozion | ok |
| 13:51.47 | korozion | elive-version: 0.5-stable |
| 13:51.51 | korozion | Is that current? |
| 13:52.44 | PrinceAMD | yes it's current stable |
| 13:52.52 | korozion | wonderful :) |
| 13:52.58 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 13:53.04 | PrinceAMD | i think 0.6 is current stable |
| 13:53.07 | korozion | ahh, ok |
| 13:53.10 | PrinceAMD | MeTaL-HeAd@Elive[~]$ cat /etc/elive-version |
| 13:53.10 | PrinceAMD | elive-codename: Revolution rl2+ |
| 13:53.10 | PrinceAMD | elive-version: 0.6.6 |
| 13:53.10 | PrinceAMD | date-builded: 2007-03-23 |
| 13:53.11 | PrinceAMD | debian-version: testing |
| 13:53.11 | PrinceAMD | stable-release: no |
| 13:53.13 | korozion | I'll burn a new copy |
| 13:53.29 | PrinceAMD | get elive .6.7 |
| 13:53.33 | korozion | ok |
| 13:53.43 | korozion | I'm putting it on my desktop at my new job :) |
| 13:53.56 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 13:54.17 | korozion | bbl |
| 13:54.19 | korozion | and thanks |
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| 13:59.12 | elmo40 | PrinceAMD: i dont think .6 is stable. |
| 13:59.50 | elmo40 | Maximiliano: argentina? My mother used to live there. |
| 14:00.10 | PrinceAMD | elmo40 0.6 is rl2 |
| 14:00.14 | Maximiliano | where are you from? |
| 14:00.14 | elmo40 | oh |
| 14:00.19 | elmo40 | Canada |
| 14:00.28 | PrinceAMD | 0.5 is rl |
| 14:02.01 | elmo40 | wow, local radio is advertising boris yeltsin died. Who Cares. Old fcuk that killed thousands of chechins |
| 14:07.10 | elmo40 | Maximiliano: religious music? |
| 14:20.50 | Maximiliano | elmo40, death metal |
| 14:21.48 | Maximiliano | http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,207997,00.html |
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| 14:38.00 | elmo40 | Maximiliano: you like progressive metal? Dream Theater? |
| 14:39.10 | Maximiliano | yes... i like metal (all kinds) when i was younger... i listen to this kind of music from time to time now |
| 14:42.19 | elmo40 | younger ;) That is a relative term. |
| 15:03.53 | elmo40 | hermit2: did you have a good weekend? |
| 15:04.13 | hermit2 | I did |
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| 15:05.44 | Detox_at_Work | hello allll |
| 15:05.58 | keyra | Detox_at_Work: hi |
| 15:06.17 | Detox_at_Work | keyra what would we do without you |
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| 15:15.36 | mips | Why is the elive donation page in spanish ??? We cannot read Spanish, why not use English ? |
| 15:15.51 | keyra | mips: with only one "?" you have sufficient |
| 15:16.00 | Detox_at_Work | dunno |
| 15:16.29 | Detox_at_Work | but if you know it is donations... it links to paypal and you can navigate from there |
| 15:16.42 | Detox_at_Work | I do not know spanish either |
| 15:17.00 | mips | I tried to navigate from the site but nowhere is there an option for english. |
| 15:17.01 | Detox_at_Work | all I do at TGaco Bell is point at the pictures |
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| 15:18.07 | Detox_at_Work | http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/ |
| 15:18.14 | Detox_at_Work | this is in english |
| 15:18.51 | mips | yes it's in english but if you click on the donate link it defaults to paypal spanish |
| 15:19.41 | Detox_at_Work | yes i see |
| 15:20.08 | Detox_at_Work | sounds like a good thing to email Thanatermesis about |
| 15:20.16 | Detox_at_Work | his native toung is spanish |
| 15:20.40 | Detox_at_Work | so maybe he can place a link from currency to language page? |
| 15:21.11 | Detox_at_Work | sorry, not much more help on this |
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| 15:21.21 | mips | I just sent him an email about it |
| 15:21.25 | Detox_at_Work | great |
| 15:21.29 | Detox_at_Work | he will fix it |
| 15:22.11 | Detox_at_Work | got to go back later hope you have fun with elive |
| 15:22.17 | mips | Most people can speak English but trhe same is not true for Spanish |
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| 15:30.08 | Maximiliano | elmo40, i mean when i was 15 years old... now im 27 |
| 15:30.27 | elmo40 | lol. |
| 15:30.37 | elmo40 | i dont know if Dream Theater was around when you were 15 |
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| 16:41.18 | vektorman | hello |
| 16:41.32 | keyra | vektorman: hi |
| 16:42.46 | vektorman | keyra: hi |
| 16:43.00 | keyra | vektorman: hi :) |
| 16:43.12 | vektorman | keyra: hi :) |
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| 17:00.30 | Skovanden | evening |
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| 17:10.24 | bouba_ | Hi Thanatermesis :). when do you have free time to see my ntfs problems? :D |
| 17:10.38 | keyra | bouba_: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by gates for fuck the linux users ? is specially made closed and in a way totally incompatible with all and all standards, don't use it, you lost your time ! (and you data lol) |
| 17:11.14 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, well, i think to i have time on some minutes |
| 17:11.19 | Thanatermesis | let me make a coffe... |
| 17:12.23 | bouba_ | ok, so i now reboot my pc :D. when you have time, work on it :D |
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| 17:21.11 | Detox | hello alllll |
| 17:21.25 | keyra | Detox: hi |
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| 17:29.37 | M_F_P | hi |
| 17:29.50 | Skovanden | Well hello |
| 17:30.04 | keyra | Skovanden: hi |
| 17:39.53 | Skovanden | Spanish guys'n'girls: what does "el temperamento" and "Mi mundo sin ti" mean ? |
| 17:40.06 | Skovanden | I guess both are Spanish |
| 17:42.31 | Skovanden | Both song titles. Like the songs but never knew what they where about :P |
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| 18:09.43 | Maximiliano | Skovanden, mi mundo sin ti = my world without you |
| 18:12.41 | Maximiliano | Skovanden, el temperamento = ¿? i dont know the english word... but temperamento is the form you react against different situations in life |
| 18:13.33 | Maximiliano | very similar to attitude |
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| 18:44.12 | vektorman | Hello |
| 18:45.10 | vektorman | I can't see languages in "language module" :( |
| 18:45.24 | vektorman | can somebody help me?\ |
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| 19:19.38 | Maximiliano | bye bue |
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| 19:41.45 | Elive_user0 | elive power!!!! |
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| 19:59.12 | elmo40 | ~date |
| 19:59.14 | apt | It is now 2007.04.23 19:59:14 GMT |
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| 20:38.09 | GPLGeek | It's very odd some of the news letters I've been getting |
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| 20:39.57 | GPLGeek | Aparently 'buntu wants to move back to being debian compatible so we can "share the load" and also they are having Linspire/Freespire work with them closely. It looks like they all want to share in the workload between the 3 communities while offering differing types of service. |
| 20:41.08 | GPLGeek | freespire will be a buntu that can have codecs, and make a ultra-easy environment for end users. buntu wants to be user/server able but also with debian compatability. Debian just wants to be debian (they are cool like that). |
| 20:41.22 | keyra | GPLGeek: Debian r00lz ! |
| 20:41.29 | GPLGeek | Agreed. |
| 20:41.53 | GPLGeek | That's why they are all going back to Debian. They want a stable easy to manage system. |
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| 20:58.47 | elmo40 | wow, what a joke. |
| 21:00.04 | elmo40 | just like how baryl split, then rejoined (insert name of original over-guified wm) |
| 21:00.13 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 21:00.47 | GPLGeek | well debian remains a open community, for the people, and uses elections, and anyone is free to talk to a debian member to help |
| 21:01.58 | GPLGeek | so it's really ubuntu's kind way of saying "I can't manage my own packages, but I can help you manage yours" which doesnt go over too well given that the ubuntu people will try to pressure the debian members to do corporate stuff with the packages. |
| 21:02.12 | keyra | GPLGeek: ubuntu is off topic |
| 21:04.06 | elmo40 | well, ubuntu CANT manage their packages! A few people i know tried to go from edgy to feisty (i think that way) and borked their X, network, and had to download over 1gb of shit :-P |
| 21:04.31 | elmo40 | apt: duct tape keyra |
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| 21:12.11 | elmo40 | has anyone tried beryl? |
| 21:12.16 | elmo40 | will it even work with e17? |
| 21:15.49 | bentejuy | elmo40, http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-1067110727577498167 |
| 21:15.50 | mathmanp | beryl is a wm and so is e17, so they won't work together |
| 21:17.02 | bentejuy | bang is a future module of e17 |
| 21:18.42 | elmo40 | bang? |
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| 21:19.50 | elmo40 | mathmanp: but beryl 'uses' gnome or kde for functioning... everything still 'looks' like gnome/kde, but with the added operations that beryl brings (3d cube, jigly screens... a bunch of useless shit, really) |
| 21:20.02 | bentejuy | sorry, bling! |
| 21:22.19 | mathmanp | elmo40: yes but it runs in gnome instead of metacity (gnome's standard wm) at least it did when I tried it two month ago |
| 21:24.01 | mathmanp | bentejuy: I think the stuff from the video is really called bang, bling just does dropshadows and fading right now |
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| 21:27.20 | GPLGeek | elmo40, E17 can never run in any 3d environment, not possible |
| 21:28.22 | GPLGeek | its 2d only and to make it 3d would just stop all development entierly for no gain |
| 21:29.07 | elmo40 | wow, my vid card MUST suck! When watching a youtube vid, the CPU is at 75% :/ |
| 21:29.23 | elmo40 | so, no sense in even using beryl :-P |
| 21:29.53 | *** topic/#elive by GPLGeek -> Welcome to Elive, feel free to ask questions || IMPORTANT: http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/58.html || MacBook users please join #elivemac || Elive 0.6.7 is out with many improvements, please try it, special features like improved resolutions for screens/laptops, we need to make it perfect! A new stable release soon! Use torrent if possible.|| E17 will never use compiz/xgl/beryl don't ask |
| 21:30.31 | GPLGeek | the e17 in beryl is fake |
| 21:30.42 | GPLGeek | The guy who made it contacted me and said it was a hoax |
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| 21:32.11 | GPLGeek | I had not seen that video before though |
| 21:32.35 | GPLGeek | There might be hacks, but you would have to be replacing core elements of e17 and it would no longer be really e17 |
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| 21:42.20 | assasukasse | is there someone that can help me wth ssh? |
| 21:43.21 | assasukasse | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.21 | assasukasse | i am trying to tunnel vnc |
| 21:43.21 | assasukasse | so i run vnc server as an X module |
| 21:43.21 | assasukasse | and from the remove machine i issue ssh -C -L 5900:target:5900 name@target |
| 21:43.22 | assasukasse | and i keep getting this error channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused |
| 21:43.22 | assasukasse | channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused |
| 21:46.27 | elmo40 | is sshd running assasukasse ? |
| 21:46.53 | assasukasse | elmo40: of course |
| 21:47.04 | assasukasse | or how can i connect in ssh |
| 21:47.06 | assasukasse | ssh works |
| 21:47.12 | assasukasse | is tunneling that doesnt |
| 21:47.54 | elmo40 | well, check usual things... port open, firewalls, blah blah, router... maybe i should shutup now :/ |
| 21:50.38 | elmo40 | next question, if i do install beryl, will i have the option in Entrance to chose it? |
| 21:53.03 | elmo40 | or, rather, compiz. Since they re-merged back (again)? |
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| 21:56.55 | elmo40 | i have to admit, i like the 'scale' function (mac also has it) where you can see all your opened windows at once, then chose which one you want. Very good feature for me! |
| 21:57.03 | elmo40 | i usually have way too many apps opened :-P |
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| 22:19.01 | elmo40 | how do i know if my console is UTF-8? Only though my locales? |
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| 22:22.52 | elmo40 | how do i change the default font for rxvt? |
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| 22:44.09 | mathmanp | elmo40: I think I changed the default font via an option in elpanel some time ago |
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| 22:58.47 | elmo40 | hrmm... i prefer a .cfg file |
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| 23:21.18 | igknighted | i was hoping to try out the latest release but the page said to come here to inquire about it? |
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| 23:21.35 | PrinceAMD | igknighted, ok |
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| 23:22.06 | PrinceAMD | igknighted, go to www.elivecd.org page n click news n u'll see the url of the iso to download there |
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| 23:24.05 | igknighted | PrinceAMD: thank you very much! |
| 23:24.14 | Elive_user | Hi, I have a problem, I dual boot PCLinuxOS and elive, and share a home directory and username in each, I messed it up and had to create a new user, however if I create it in PCLinuxOS and copy over the .e etc files from my old home directory, it doesn't work in elive, if I create it in Elive it stops working in PCLinuxOS, can anyone help? |
| 23:24.28 | keyra | Elive_user: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format |
| 23:24.31 | PrinceAMD | igknighted, ah no prob, download use and if u find a single problem come n beat us up here |
| 23:25.11 | igknighted | PrinceAMD: :) I will |
| 23:25.15 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user, are you using e17 on both? |
| 23:25.18 | PrinceAMD | igknighted, good :) |
| 23:25.45 | Elive_user | no I'm using KDE (standard in PCLinuxOS) and e17 in elive |
| 23:26.12 | Elive_user | keyra, the link you sent doesn't work |
| 23:27.35 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user, when you say " if I create it in Elive it stops working in PCLinuxOS," what is the "it"? |
| 23:27.42 | LinuxNIT-II | the user? |
| 23:27.51 | Elive_user | the user yes |
| 23:28.08 | LinuxNIT-II | both with the EXACT same name? |
| 23:28.12 | Elive_user | it says kdestartupconfig not found (I think) |
| 23:28.22 | Elive_user | yes both identical |
| 23:28.28 | LinuxNIT-II | same case? |
| 23:28.39 | Elive_user | yep |
| 23:28.49 | LinuxNIT-II | ok what is the uid in pclos? |
| 23:28.55 | Elive_user | uid? |
| 23:29.03 | Elive_user | sorry, im a bit new! |
| 23:29.04 | LinuxNIT-II | user id number |
| 23:29.22 | Elive_user | err, I think its 1001, is there a way I can check? |
| 23:30.07 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.13 | LinuxNIT-II | debian has it in /etc/passwd |
| 23:30.25 | LinuxNIT-II | i would think pclos has it in the same place |
| 23:30.40 | LinuxNIT-II | if not you can run this: echo $UID |
| 23:30.48 | LinuxNIT-II | from the command line as that user and it will tell you |
| 23:33.31 | Elive_user | ok, it isn't there in elive (for the new user, certainly because I didn't create it in elive yet, I just copied all the .e folders!) |
| 23:33.52 | Elive_user | I did it this way because actually creating it in elive, stopped my pclos working |
| 23:34.05 | LinuxNIT-II | which one is working right now |
| 23:34.34 | Elive_user | at the moment, on the one I actually want to use pclos is working |
| 23:34.42 | Elive_user | elive doesn't even know its there! |
| 23:35.02 | LinuxNIT-II | so pclos is working with no problems right? |
| 23:35.11 | Elive_user | but I have two different ones atm, one working in elive but not pclos and one in pclos and not elive |
| 23:35.13 | Elive_user | yes |
| 23:35.22 | LinuxNIT-II | what does elive do if you try and log in? |
| 23:35.33 | Elive_user | it doesn't recognise the username |
| 23:35.41 | LinuxNIT-II | did you delete the user? |
| 23:36.45 | Elive_user | I haven't actually created it as such, I just copied the .e .enlightenment folders etc from the one that worked in elive. If I actually create it, it stops pclos working |
| 23:37.15 | LinuxNIT-II | ok |
| 23:37.19 | LinuxNIT-II | you on elive right? |
| 23:37.23 | LinuxNIT-II | installed or livemode? |
| 23:37.28 | Elive_user | installed |
| 23:37.36 | LinuxNIT-II | just as a different user correct? |
| 23:37.37 | Elive_user | yep |
| 23:37.41 | LinuxNIT-II | ok |
| 23:37.41 | Elive_user | yes |
| 23:37.55 | LinuxNIT-II | join #elive-flood |
| 23:38.09 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.58 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user, run the mount command and paste the output in #elive-flood |
| 23:39.07 | Elive_user | ok |
| 23:39.52 | LinuxNIT-II | copy and paste by higlighting the text and using a middle click to paste |
| 23:40.00 | LinuxNIT-II | incase you didnt know ;) |
| 23:40.41 | Elive_user | I didn't! thanks for the tip, I opened konsole instead! |
| 23:40.47 | LinuxNIT-II | what partition is pclos installed on? |
| 23:41.02 | Elive_user | hda6 |
| 23:41.34 | LinuxNIT-II | mount it and paste its fstab in #elive-flood |
| 23:43.01 | Elive_user | it says hda6 doesn't exist, but I'm sure its that |
| 23:43.12 | LinuxNIT-II | mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/hda6 |
| 23:44.06 | Elive_user | oops |
| 23:44.06 | Elive_user | thanks :) |
| 23:44.06 | LinuxNIT-II | no problem |
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| 23:44.42 | LinuxNIT | still here |
| 23:44.51 | Elive_user | fstab command not found |
| 23:44.56 | LinuxNIT | its a file |
| 23:45.00 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.08 | LinuxNIT | in your case /mnt/hda6/etc/fstab |
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| 23:45.41 | Elive_user | it says, no such file or directory |
| 23:46.19 | Elive_user | I think I got it, pasting now |
| 23:47.32 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 23:48.33 | LinuxNIT | i think what you need to do is have elive creat the user while hda7 is not mounted as /home |
| 23:49.03 | LinuxNIT | but to unmount it you will have to log out and do it from a console |
| 23:49.13 | Elive_user | ok |
| 23:49.16 | LinuxNIT | do you know how to use the console? not a terminal |
| 23:49.46 | LinuxNIT | cntl+alt+F1 |
| 23:49.47 | Elive_user | yea I know a little bit, I have to use it to fix graphics often |
| 23:49.50 | LinuxNIT | the graphical system is on F7 or F9 |
| 23:50.20 | Elive_user | I have no idea how to create a user etc from there though |
| 23:50.31 | LinuxNIT | so log out... login as root... unmount /home.... add the user |
| 23:50.36 | LinuxNIT | adduser command ;) |
| 23:50.46 | LinuxNIT | log in as root not as user |
| 23:51.27 | Elive_user | sorry to be a pain, but what do I actually type to unmount? |
| 23:51.33 | LinuxNIT | umount /home |
| 23:51.43 | Elive_user | oh, nice and easy :) |
| 23:51.47 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 23:51.55 | Elive_user | ok I'll try it! Thanks for the help! |
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| 23:59.46 | calvin_ | Hi, I'm the guy who was having the user problem and I just wanna thank LinuxNIT because its solved! :D |
| 23:59.59 | LinuxNIT | cool |