| 00:04.47 | aleksey | hmm. |
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| 00:14.26 | Thybo | aleksey, hmm |
| 00:14.34 | Thybo | its not a forum :p but yes sort of ;) |
| 00:19.22 | aleksey | right, i suppose i'm just wondering if anyone is active on this channel |
| 00:20.54 | aleksey | have you experienced any similar errors when switching from testing to etch ? |
| 00:24.26 | Thybo | aleksey, i will send u my sources list ok? |
| 00:25.10 | aleksey | thanks! |
| 00:33.48 | Thybo | :) |
| 00:36.28 | aleksey | thybo: thank you, i will check that out |
| 00:36.50 | Thybo | aleksey, don't know if u can receive that |
| 00:36.58 | Thybo | i have the skype repository added but thats all |
| 00:36.59 | Thybo | :) |
| 00:41.44 | aleksey | thybo, tried to recv but it didnt seem to work... maybe need to be reg on freenode to recv? |
| 00:41.54 | Thybo | hm |
| 00:41.57 | Thybo | maybe yes :) |
| 00:42.09 | aleksey | looks like we are using same repositories |
| 00:43.10 | aleksey | i wonder what's causing all the apt-get update error messages i'm seeing |
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| 02:22.11 | elmo40-am_i_here | roxville: pentagon is using FOSS? for what? there must be a better way. And there is NO way M$ would win that one! |
| 02:23.15 | roxville | elmo40-am_i_here, i don't work there, so i don't know |
| 02:23.24 | roxville | but i do know that they use it |
| 02:23.29 | roxville | NASA too |
| 02:23.59 | roxville | i just had a field day reading about all that stuff :) |
| 02:25.16 | roxville | the groklaw article was very cool reading |
| 02:25.23 | elmo40-am_i_here | it is, reading it now ;) |
| 02:28.02 | roxville | :) |
| 02:28.17 | roxville | made me happy, i've been smiling all day :) |
| 02:29.21 | elmo40-am_i_here | ~seen GPLGeek |
| 02:30.58 | apt | gplgeek <n=GPLGeek@pdpc/supporter/student/GPLGeek> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 5d 7h 17m 33s ago, saying: 'some people can't use the torrent'. |
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| 02:38.26 | roxville | gotta reboot, bbiab |
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| 02:44.26 | roxville | brb again |
| 02:45.10 | elmo40-am_i_here | wow, Toshiba supports Linux! http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/index.htm |
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| 02:49.44 | roxville | elmo40-am_i_here, great reading, eh? |
| 02:50.31 | elmo40-am_i_here | yes, indeed |
| 02:52.44 | roxville | elmo40-am_i_here, http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html |
| 02:52.55 | roxville | this is another one i really enjoyed today |
| 02:56.51 | roxville | http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/windowsoem.shtml |
| 02:56.58 | roxville | this is also pretty funny |
| 02:57.10 | roxville | i just found it, reading now... |
| 02:57.41 | roxville | "However, it then began a series of unbelievably slow installation processes that make installing Gentoo on a Pentium II appear speedy." |
| 02:57.48 | roxville | hehe |
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| 03:03.55 | L1nUx_L33t | I have a tray! =D |
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| 03:04.56 | roxville | yay? |
| 03:05.30 | roxville | i meant: YAY! |
| 03:06.40 | L1nUx_L33t | xDDD |
| 03:07.17 | L1nUx_L33t | and it was SO easy to use it.... |
| 03:07.23 | L1nUx_L33t | :-P |
| 03:07.40 | roxville | cool! |
| 03:08.28 | L1nUx_L33t | amarok gave me a lot of troubles 'cause I didn't have the tray 'till I find out that xmms worked fine :-P |
| 03:08.44 | L1nUx_L33t | well I'll leave again,,,, just wanted you toknow it XDD |
| 03:09.01 | L1nUx_L33t | Btw, the one I'm using it's called trayer.... |
| 03:09.21 | roxville | ok, cool :) |
| 03:09.41 | L1nUx_L33t | bytes! |
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| 03:10.28 | roxville | wb :) |
| 03:10.34 | L1nUx_L33t | hehehhe thx =) |
| 03:10.54 | L1nUx_L33t | forgot something... Is it possible to play multiple sounds on elive? |
| 03:11.27 | L1nUx_L33t | I hate that on linux.... |
| 03:11.53 | roxville | yeah, me too... |
| 03:11.56 | L1nUx_L33t | when I go to my work and use winbugs, I remember how much I miss that feature.... |
| 03:12.48 | L1nUx_L33t | anyhow is it possible? I followed a how-to for ubuntu that uses e-sound but didn't worked |
| 03:13.03 | keyra | L1nUx_L33t: ubuntu is off topic |
| 03:13.42 | L1nUx_L33t | apt hit keyra |
| 03:13.58 | apt | ACTION kicks keyra. |
| 03:13.58 | roxville | L1nUx_L33t, i'm not sure :/ |
| 03:13.58 | keyra | L1nUx_L33t: hi :) |
| 03:14.18 | L1nUx_L33t | well... Thanatermesis if you're bored there's something to entertain you XDD |
| 03:14.33 | L1nUx_L33t | ok now I'm leaving... bye ppl good luck |
| 03:14.43 | roxville | you too :) |
| 03:14.53 | elmo40-am_i_here | L1nUx_L33t: with multithreading sound? you want Thanatermesis to work on that? HA. That is an inherent Linux PROBLEM. |
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| 03:17.09 | roxville | lol |
| 03:17.09 | Thanatermesis | keyra, multiple sounds on Elive |
| 03:17.23 | keyra | Thanatermesis: try to play with alsa/esound options of the audio configuration in elpanel |
| 03:17.55 | elmo40-am_i_here | i can do a few multiple sounds. xmms+skype+youtube. |
| 03:18.02 | elmo40-am_i_here | but no xmms&teamspeak |
| 03:18.19 | elmo40-am_i_here | and no unreal tournament&teamspeak (very important combination) |
| 03:18.37 | Thanatermesis | apt teamspeak |
| 03:19.01 | Thanatermesis | what is teamspeak ? |
| 03:19.15 | roxville | it's used in games a lot |
| 03:19.26 | roxville | eshep had me use it for a while |
| 03:19.52 | roxville | IP phone, basically |
| 03:20.31 | Thanatermesis | maybe needs a configuration for use esound too (for the elpanel audio configuration esound thing bla bla) |
| 03:23.50 | roxville | maybe |
| 03:24.08 | elmo40-am_i_here | Thanatermesis: http://goteamspeak.com |
| 03:24.33 | elmo40-am_i_here | a while back, we were talking about audio, and i have learned that many apps are just 'broken' |
| 03:26.42 | roxville | wow e17's config panel is now HUGE! |
| 03:26.51 | roxville | it's got sooo many options! |
| 03:27.01 | roxville | that may be a problem in the future... |
| 03:27.06 | Thanatermesis | teamspeak don't supports esound ? |
| 03:27.17 | roxville | they need to put in a "reset all functions" feature |
| 03:27.43 | LinuxNIT | roxville, its called rm -r ~/.e ;) |
| 03:27.45 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 03:28.25 | roxville | he...he...he... |
| 03:29.38 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 03:44.36 | elmo40-am_i_here | Thanatermesis: no, teamspeak does not |
| 03:44.41 | elmo40-am_i_here | i think it is oss based! |
| 03:44.54 | elmo40-am_i_here | roxville: which e17 do you have? |
| 03:45.08 | Thanatermesis | uh |
| 03:45.46 | roxville | elmo40-am_i_here, the latest e17-dev build |
| 03:45.55 | roxville | but it's acting a little wird |
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| 03:49.50 | roxville | <roxville> "there is always someone smarter than you" |
| 03:49.50 | roxville | <roxville> i am so glad those ppl use linux! |
| 03:50.04 | keyra | roxville: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 03:50.05 | roxville | and... there seem to be many of them... |
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| 04:06.22 | Thanatermesis | keyra windows |
| 04:06.36 | keyra | Thanatermesis: windows is copyrighted, patented, and you are violating 253 patents |
| 04:07.07 | roxville | LOL |
| 04:07.20 | sinplomo_ZzZzZzZ | XDDD |
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| 04:45.15 | Mutacion | ^^ |
| 04:46.49 | Thybo | hola Mutacion :) |
| 04:47.04 | keyra | Thybo: que tal ? |
| 04:47.16 | Mutacion | qe onda |
| 04:47.16 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra to death |
| 04:47.28 | apt | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged fluxneutrino gun at keyra to death |
| 04:47.29 | Thybo | bn y ud? |
| 04:47.39 | Mutacion | cansado..muy cansado |
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| 04:49.16 | Thybo | y eso? |
| 04:50.59 | Thybo | q paso? |
| 04:53.24 | Mutacion | escuela.. cansancio..examenes..proyectos finales |
| 04:53.28 | Mutacion | etc.... cansa mucho |
| 04:53.38 | Thybo | jej |
| 04:53.44 | Thybo | de donde esta? |
| 04:53.59 | Mutacion | mx |
| 04:54.20 | Thybo | :) |
| 04:58.49 | Mutacion | tiene sun 201 |
| 04:58.52 | Mutacion | tmb de mx?? |
| 04:59.43 | Thybo | sun 201? como asi? |
| 04:59.45 | Thybo | no de cool |
| 04:59.46 | Thybo | col |
| 04:59.51 | Mutacion | ahh |
| 05:00.05 | Mutacion | qe raro..antes los de mx..teniamos un 201 |
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| 05:00.13 | Mutacion | hace tiempo qe cambiaron los ips :s |
| 05:01.14 | Thybo | :p |
| 05:01.24 | Thybo | LinuxNIT, u restarting often no? |
| 05:01.32 | LinuxNIT | playing with settings |
| 05:01.38 | LinuxNIT | just installed |
| 05:08.00 | elmo40-am_i_here | why cant windoze have a simple apt-get upgrade feature? Instead of this dumb-ass updater thing? |
| 05:08.49 | Thybo | lol |
| 05:08.58 | Thybo | from my point of vue |
| 05:09.01 | Thybo | its very similar |
| 05:09.38 | elmo40-am_i_here | not really. |
| 05:09.42 | elmo40-am_i_here | takes too much over ehad |
| 05:09.46 | elmo40-am_i_here | *over head |
| 05:09.54 | elmo40-am_i_here | and not fast enough ;) |
| 05:10.54 | LinuxNIT | su |
| 05:10.58 | LinuxNIT | ooops |
| 05:16.52 | Mutacion | ayo0 |
| 05:16.57 | Mutacion | apt bye |
| 05:17.09 | apt | l8tr |
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| 05:57.12 | sambagirl | hi begasus |
| 05:57.25 | Begasus | hi sambagirl! |
| 05:57.31 | sambagirl | what is going on with you? |
| 05:57.39 | Begasus | don't know? |
| 05:57.41 | sambagirl | is zeta dead? |
| 05:57.43 | Begasus | how's that? |
| 05:57.47 | Begasus | not yet ;) |
| 05:57.49 | sambagirl | what are you doing in here? traitor? |
| 05:57.57 | sambagirl | ha |
| 05:58.13 | Begasus | I've been here for much longer then this :P |
| 05:58.22 | sambagirl | TT is running their thing on open be os? |
| 05:58.26 | sambagirl | ahh |
| 05:58.31 | sambagirl | this is a reather neat distro |
| 05:58.34 | sambagirl | rather |
| 05:59.37 | Thybo | ah ure here too sambagirl ;) |
| 05:59.38 | Thybo | hehe |
| 05:59.49 | Thybo | sort of followin me |
| 05:59.53 | sambagirl | lol |
| 06:00.01 | sambagirl | i thought you were going to bed? |
| 06:00.05 | Thybo | i was |
| 06:00.08 | sambagirl | i just got of the fone |
| 06:00.09 | Thybo | but than u told me |
| 06:00.13 | Thybo | ill be back fone |
| 06:00.15 | sambagirl | yes true |
| 06:00.19 | Thybo | so i waited like a nice little boy |
| 06:00.25 | sambagirl | i just joined in heree |
| 06:00.28 | sambagirl | jaja |
| 06:00.28 | Thybo | :) |
| 06:00.36 | Thybo | hablas espanol tambien? |
| 06:01.33 | Begasus | haven't checked the latest versions though ;) |
| 06:01.47 | Thybo | what latest versions? |
| 06:01.57 | Begasus | for eLive |
| 06:02.03 | Thybo | ah |
| 06:02.06 | Thybo | what version u on? |
| 06:02.20 | Begasus | running Debian atm as a linux os |
| 06:02.32 | Thybo | yeah but what version? |
| 06:02.34 | keyra | Begasus: Debian r00lz ! |
| 06:02.37 | Thybo | sarge? etch? |
| 06:02.40 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra |
| 06:02.57 | apt | ACTION shoots a inverse anti-graviton gun at keyra |
| 06:02.57 | Begasus | 4.0 etch |
| 06:02.58 | Thybo | ok |
| 06:02.58 | Thybo | an e? |
| 06:02.58 | Begasus | great one .. |
| 06:02.58 | Thybo | or gnome/kde |
| 06:02.59 | Begasus | gnome |
| 06:03.00 | Thybo | yeah its cool :) |
| 06:03.09 | Thybo | :) |
| 06:03.27 | Begasus | one of the best I've installed in the last years ... atleast to my feel |
| 06:03.45 | sambagirl | these applications they have on the homepage these applications actually work? can i put this on a usb memory stick and run it ? |
| 06:03.50 | sambagirl | does my slax creator work for it? |
| 06:03.55 | Thybo | one of the best distros? debian/gnome? |
| 06:04.06 | Thybo | what applications? |
| 06:04.08 | sambagirl | ubuntu?? |
| 06:04.11 | sambagirl | look thybo |
| 06:04.18 | Thybo | why do u want to put slax creator with debian?:s |
| 06:04.23 | keyra | sambagirl: ubuntu is off topic |
| 06:04.28 | sambagirl | http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/Applications/ |
| 06:04.29 | Thybo | apt: kill keyra |
| 06:04.33 | apt | ACTION shoots a super-inverse anti-photon gun at keyra |
| 06:04.40 | Begasus | if grub wasn't so f** in ubuntu I might give it a chance ... |
| 06:04.47 | keyra | apt: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 06:05.03 | Thybo | hmm |
| 06:05.19 | Thybo | sambagirl i think u can install elive to usb even though its not its purpose |
| 06:05.27 | Thybo | i do think u need a lot of space on it |
| 06:05.32 | Thybo | but not much more |
| 06:05.40 | Thybo | like 2 gigs would'nt be too much |
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| 06:05.52 | sambagirl | 2 gig? |
| 06:05.55 | Thybo | hmm |
| 06:05.56 | Thybo | i think |
| 06:06.02 | Thybo | elive cd is 700 megs |
| 06:06.02 | sambagirl | geez thats like running vista. good grief. |
| 06:06.07 | Thybo | but all compressed |
| 06:06.10 | sambagirl | ok |
| 06:06.10 | Thybo | hmm |
| 06:06.11 | Thybo | no |
| 06:06.15 | Thybo | vista is more space on hd |
| 06:06.19 | Thybo | ^^ |
| 06:06.31 | sambagirl | so the apps on that page are all included in the live cd? |
| 06:06.34 | Thybo | elive isn't a distro that was though for usb |
| 06:06.38 | Thybo | hmm |
| 06:06.45 | Thybo | open office isn't |
| 06:06.54 | sambagirl | well usb 4gig sticks are like only a few dollars today. |
| 06:07.03 | Thybo | evidence has been dropped |
| 06:08.12 | Thybo | qcad isn't there either i think |
| 06:08.57 | Thybo | neither is the radio aplication |
| 06:09.00 | sambagirl | well they can be installed obviously thybo right? |
| 06:09.05 | Thybo | all others yes |
| 06:09.12 | Thybo | yeah of course they can ;) |
| 06:09.22 | Thybo | apt-get powaaaaaaaaaa |
| 06:09.23 | sambagirl | ;) |
| 06:09.27 | sambagirl | ah |
| 06:10.07 | Thybo | hmm |
| 06:10.36 | Thybo | ok sambagirl now i truly am goin to sleep |
| 06:10.44 | Thybo | u should too hehe its getting late;) |
| 06:10.47 | Thybo | sweet dreams: |
| 06:10.50 | Thybo | ^^ |
| 06:10.59 | sambagirl | nite thybo see you tomorrow! |
| 06:11.02 | sambagirl | thanks! |
| 06:11.10 | Thybo | welcome its a pleasure:) |
| 06:11.15 | Thybo | have a nice pepsi jeje |
| 06:11.58 | sambagirl | :D |
| 06:11.58 | sambagirl | bye |
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| 09:29.44 | wizard123 | hello all |
| 09:29.52 | wizard123 | does anybody use scim or skim ? |
| 09:29.58 | keyra | wizard123: hi |
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| 09:37.51 | wizard123 | wrrrrr QInputContext: no input method context available |
| 09:40.09 | wizard123 | i give up : |
| 09:40.14 | wizard123 | |: |
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| 09:41.24 | eshep | wizard123, still here? |
| 09:41.35 | wizard123 | yes.. |
| 09:41.38 | wizard123 | why do you ask ? |
| 09:41.53 | wizard123 | i use debian etch with some packages from elive :) |
| 09:41.54 | eshep | why do you choose to use scim? |
| 09:42.00 | eshep | or worse skim |
| 09:42.19 | wizard123 | becaus i wanted to have some japanese input method installed |
| 09:42.22 | eshep | what language do you need to type in? |
| 09:42.26 | wizard123 | japanese |
| 09:42.28 | eshep | perfect! |
| 09:42.34 | keyra | wizard123: Elive in japanese ? make a look to http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml |
| 09:42.53 | eshep | これみたいね? |
| 09:42.57 | wizard123 | i've decided to continue learning.. so i need to write something :) |
| 09:43.21 | eshep | just a sec |
| 09:43.24 | wizard123 | koremitaine ? |
| 09:44.14 | wizard123 | uhh.. i forgot allmost everything :| |
| 09:44.15 | wizard123 | not good |
| 09:45.26 | eshep | wizard123, try this: sudo apt-get install anthy uim-anthy uim-gtk2.0 uim-utils |
| 09:45.39 | eshep | those should get you what you need |
| 09:45.56 | wizard123 | and what about qt apps ? |
| 09:46.15 | wizard123 | ok, installed |
| 09:46.15 | eshep | it should be fine |
| 09:46.35 | wizard123 | should i start skim now ? |
| 09:46.37 | eshep | uim-toolbar-gtk |
| 09:46.46 | eshep | no, not skim |
| 09:46.55 | eshep | screw skim |
| 09:47.10 | wizard123 | :P ok |
| 09:49.02 | wizard123 | eshep: ok, i see epmty bar with cross :) |
| 09:49.02 | eshep | just rum the uim-toolbar-gtk and youll understand |
| 09:49.03 | eshep | just open iceweasel or something |
| 09:49.03 | wizard123 | hmm.. i wanted to use that in qt apps too :/ |
| 09:49.03 | eshep | actually rclick on the little X |
| 09:49.04 | wizard123 | it does nothing :/ |
| 09:49.17 | wizard123 | i have two locales installed: pl_PL.utf8 and ja_JP.utf8 |
| 09:49.34 | wizard123 | LANG=pl_PL.utf8 LC_CTYPE=jp_JP.utf8 |
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| 09:49.57 | eshep | you dont need the locals |
| 09:50.25 | wizard123 | hmm |
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| 09:50.43 | eshep | all i use is UTF8 |
| 09:51.34 | wizard123 | uhm.. |
| 09:51.55 | wizard123 | eshep: but that small x does nothing :| |
| 09:51.59 | wizard123 | not good |
| 09:52.07 | eshep | rclick on it |
| 09:52.16 | eshep | right-click |
| 09:52.24 | wizard123 | and preferences, right ? |
| 09:52.33 | eshep | yup |
| 09:52.42 | eshep | then use anthy as your IM |
| 09:53.34 | wizard123 | ok, done |
| 09:53.49 | eshep | dont use anything other than UIM/Anthy for Japanese |
| 09:54.04 | keyra | eshep: Elive in japanese ? make a look to http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml |
| 09:54.27 | wizard123 | hmm.. i don't have any other software enabled, only kxkb for switching between polish and russian keyboard |
| 09:54.43 | eshep | trust me. ive tried em ALL |
| 09:55.03 | eshep | you have to open the app after uim i think |
| 09:55.12 | wizard123 | let's see |
| 09:55.14 | eshep | i have mine in the startup |
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| 09:55.55 | wizard123 | wait, maybe it does not work, because i have XMODIFIERS set to scim |
| 09:56.06 | wizard123 | i'll disable these variables |
| 09:56.16 | eshep | turn off everything skim and scim |
| 09:56.36 | wizard123 | ok |
| 09:57.04 | wizard123 | uff.. i'm glad that my language uses roman letters with some aditions like ą :) |
| 09:57.05 | eshep | hows it goin keyra |
| 09:58.53 | eshep | keyra, talk to me! |
| 10:00.14 | wizard123 | eshep: menu is still empty |
| 10:00.25 | eshep | wierd |
| 10:00.26 | wizard123 | and i enabled uim-toolbar-gtk-systray this time |
| 10:01.39 | wizard123 | and when i chose 'switch input method' it shown empty window |
| 10:02.59 | eshep | you have enabled input methods as anthy |
| 10:03.47 | eshep | open firefox and go to a text input block |
| 10:03.51 | wizard123 | ok |
| 10:03.58 | eshep | then hit shift+space |
| 10:04.40 | wizard123 | oh my god |
| 10:04.42 | wizard123 | it works |
| 10:04.46 | wizard123 | but only in gtk apps |
| 10:04.58 | wizard123 | and actually i use only qt :/ |
| 10:05.00 | eshep | sometimes the trayapp dissapears then you have to kill and restart it |
| 10:05.01 | wizard123 | not good |
| 10:05.39 | wizard123 | uim-qt - Qt 4.x immodule for uim |
| 10:05.45 | wizard123 | and what about qt3 :S |
| 10:06.56 | wizard123 | eshep: do you have any ideas ? |
| 10:07.01 | eshep | not sure bout the qt stuff dude, use it as little as possible |
| 10:07.33 | eshep | there should be somthing on the internet bout uim/qt |
| 10:07.36 | wizard123 | like i do with gtk apps.. actually only thunderbird |
| 10:07.46 | wizard123 | i'll grep google |
| 10:07.58 | eshep | ah, no shit |
| 10:08.05 | wizard123 | ありがとう |
| 10:08.10 | wizard123 | what ? |
| 10:08.16 | eshep | sudo apt-get install uim-qt |
| 10:08.30 | eshep | np dude |
| 10:08.31 | wizard123 | i see that is for qt4 |
| 10:08.36 | wizard123 | but i'll try |
| 10:09.01 | wizard123 | ok, installed |
| 10:09.05 | wizard123 | let's see |
| 10:09.11 | eshep | restart uim |
| 10:10.20 | wizard123 | now i have uim-toolbar-qt :) |
| 10:10.32 | eshep | use that instead |
| 10:10.44 | wizard123 | i do |
| 10:11.17 | eshep | or maybe theres a setting in one to icorperate functionality of the other |
| 10:11.41 | wizard123 | that looks the same, config panel too, but it is written using qt |
| 10:11.53 | wizard123 | but it still does not work.. i'll try to log out |
| 10:11.58 | eshep | XIM may also help, not sure though |
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| 10:12.09 | wizard123 | xim ? |
| 10:12.19 | eshep | uim-xim |
| 10:12.26 | eshep | apt-get it |
| 10:12.44 | wizard123 | done |
| 10:12.58 | eshep | enable it in the prefs |
| 10:13.49 | wizard123 | i don't see it |
| 10:14.03 | eshep | on the left |
| 10:14.12 | eshep | you may need to restart |
| 10:14.16 | eshep | uim |
| 10:14.17 | wizard123 | i did it |
| 10:14.23 | crm__ | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/28/dell_linux_computers |
| 10:16.03 | crm__ | really |
| 10:16.08 | crm__ | instead of hpux |
| 10:16.12 | crm__ | they need a dellux |
| 10:16.44 | crm__ | with E! |
| 10:17.36 | wizard123 | eshep: i run uim-xim, it told me it set up something.. but it still does not work :/ |
| 10:17.48 | wizard123 | XMODIFIERS=@im=uim registered, selecting anthy (ja) as default conversion engine |
| 10:17.53 | eshep | no, dont run it |
| 10:18.36 | eshep | just enable it in uim-toolbar |
| 10:18.36 | eshep | prefs |
| 10:19.05 | wizard123 | something happened |
| 10:19.40 | eshep | good or bad |
| 10:20.06 | wizard123 | toolbar is different now, it shows four butons |
| 10:20.15 | wizard123 | instead one as befor |
| 10:20.15 | eshep | there ya go! |
| 10:20.43 | wizard123 | :) |
| 10:20.51 | eshep | now you should be better off |
| 10:20.56 | wizard123 | not that still does not work in kwrite for example :D |
| 10:22.31 | eshep | try closing them all and running just xim |
| 10:23.25 | wizard123 | but it still works in gtk |
| 10:23.25 | eshep | then you should be able to use shift-space to change |
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| 10:24.51 | wizard123 | ok, i'll log out and try again |
| 10:24.57 | eshep | cool |
| 10:26.19 | eshep | i dont have any qt apps to check with |
| 10:26.38 | wizard123 | :/ |
| 10:26.44 | eshep | but, uim-xim does work with shift-space |
| 10:27.04 | eshep | i dont know how to get half-width though |
| 10:27.19 | eshep | i mean change between half and full |
| 10:27.27 | wizard123 | i understand |
| 10:27.46 | eshep | some japanese forms on the internet reqire a certain one or they will not validate |
| 10:28.00 | keyra | eshep: Elive in japanese ? make a look to http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml |
| 10:28.14 | eshep | damn you keyra |
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| 10:28.24 | wizard123 | eshep: toolbar is small again |
| 10:28.34 | wizard123 | it shows '?' button and configure button |
| 10:28.36 | eshep | what toolbar? |
| 10:28.44 | eshep | xim has none |
| 10:28.45 | wizard123 | that from uim |
| 10:28.49 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 10:28.59 | wizard123 | whoops.. |
| 10:29.02 | eshep | run just uim-xim |
| 10:29.18 | eshep | run from the alt+esc thingy |
| 10:29.25 | wizard123 | done |
| 10:29.30 | wizard123 | i run it in terminal |
| 10:29.36 | wizard123 | XMODIFIERS=@im=uim registered, selecting anthy (ja) as default conversion engine |
| 10:29.37 | eshep | do you use e17? |
| 10:29.40 | wizard123 | kde :P |
| 10:29.51 | eshep | then run uim-xim & |
| 10:29.59 | wizard123 | i did :] |
| 10:30.11 | eshep | ah, one of those people huh... |
| 10:30.19 | eshep | :) |
| 10:30.24 | wizard123 | hmm.. shift space, right ? |
| 10:30.29 | eshep | yup |
| 10:30.35 | wizard123 | does not work xD |
| 10:30.43 | eshep | hmmm |
| 10:31.06 | wizard123 | you are very patient :P |
| 10:31.27 | eshep | i got nuttin better to do |
| 10:31.39 | eshep | plus i used to help out here a LOT |
| 10:32.05 | eshep | ive been gone a while, so i feel like i owe a debt to my buds |
| 10:32.12 | wizard123 | :) |
| 10:32.38 | eshep | i really am out of ideas though |
| 10:32.40 | wizard123 | hmm.. "This package contains only utilities which build againt libqt4" |
| 10:32.48 | wizard123 | :o |
| 10:32.53 | wizard123 | so what about qt3.. |
| 10:33.00 | wizard123 | it can't be true :) |
| 10:33.27 | eshep | i guess if it come down to it you could run both -gtk and -qt ..... |
| 10:33.46 | eshep | it should be bwcompat |
| 10:34.06 | wizard123 | as far as i know it does not matter if i use qt-toolbar or gtk-toolbar |
| 10:34.13 | wizard123 | it allways works in gtk apps |
| 10:34.19 | eshep | yuo |
| 10:34.27 | eshep | thats why i love it |
| 10:34.48 | wizard123 | but it does not work under qt apps, so i think i need to install some immodules for qt3 |
| 10:34.58 | wizard123 | apt-cache search, get ready :P |
| 10:35.09 | eshep | still, youll get crappy results for 日本語 in anything other than UIM |
| 10:35.35 | eshep | long search i bet |
| 10:35.48 | eshep | better |grep |grep |grep |
| 10:35.53 | wizard123 | i'll stick with uim-xim, i only need to find some plugins for qt3, so it can understand it |
| 10:36.12 | wizard123 | if you use it in your daily tasks, and you are native speaker.. :P |
| 10:36.14 | eshep | have you also seen kdrill? |
| 10:36.31 | wizard123 | no. what is this ? |
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| 10:36.40 | eshep | me and my wife use the shit out of uim |
| 10:36.59 | eshep | instal it, youll love it |
| 10:37.06 | eshep | also install kanjipad |
| 10:38.03 | wizard123 | :D kanji teching tool :D |
| 10:38.09 | eshep | you bet |
| 10:38.24 | eshep | kanji pad is its best friend |
| 10:38.49 | eshep | just write it down, hit search, then copy |
| 10:38.59 | wizard123 | i used kanjipad |
| 10:39.06 | eshep | paste into kdrill and viola |
| 10:39.38 | eshep | both of those also work great under cygwin as well |
| 10:39.52 | wizard123 | i don't have any win32 around |
| 10:40.03 | eshep | dont be foold by jdrill (the java varient) |
| 10:40.07 | crm__ | guys.. im missing a clock on the desktop.. any ideas how i get this going? |
| 10:40.11 | eshep | i have to for work |
| 10:40.22 | wizard123 | ok, eshep :) thanks for all |
| 10:40.31 | eshep | settings|extentions |
| 10:40.39 | wizard123 | i need to find my japanese books now |
| 10:40.39 | eshep | np, catch ya later |
| 10:40.39 | crm__ | ta |
| 10:40.43 | wizard123 | see you |
| 10:40.53 | keyra | wizard123: Elive in japanese ? make a look to http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml |
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| 11:23.00 | roxville | <wizard123> hmm.. i don't have any other software enabled, only kxkb for switching between polish and russian keyboard |
| 11:23.01 | roxville | <eshep> trust me. ive tried em ALL |
| 11:23.27 | roxville | if eshep says he's tried them all... then he has... i guarantee it |
| 11:23.56 | roxville | :) |
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| 12:16.59 | Maximiliaoadl | buenos dias a todos |
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| 13:43.17 | wizard123 | roxville: kxkb is just an tray application for switching between keyboard maps |
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| 14:02.22 | roxville | wizard123, ok :) |
| 14:02.58 | Elive_user30 | yes |
| 14:03.24 | Elive_user30 | can you help me with a problem ? |
| 14:03.33 | roxville | we will try :) |
| 14:03.39 | roxville | what's the problem? |
| 14:03.42 | Thybo | lol |
| 14:04.29 | Elive_user30 | i try to change the background of urxvt. but it duzzend work |
| 14:04.43 | Thybo | hm |
| 14:04.46 | Thybo | through elpanel? |
| 14:04.57 | Elive_user30 | no Xdefault |
| 14:04.58 | roxville | Elive_user30, you have to use the elpanel background manager |
| 14:05.25 | Elive_user30 | i try to make it look gray |
| 14:05.35 | roxville | oh |
| 14:05.39 | Elive_user30 | and black font |
| 14:06.10 | roxville | well, you may have a hang out here a little... i'm not very good at configuring terminals |
| 14:06.16 | roxville | sorry :/ |
| 14:06.22 | roxville | wizard123, you have any idea? |
| 14:06.40 | Elive_user30 | even try urxvt bg ... |
| 14:07.47 | roxville | like i said, i'm not very good at it, i apologize |
| 14:08.15 | Elive_user30 | Wath is apologize |
| 14:09.08 | roxville | saying "i am sorry" |
| 14:10.12 | Elive_user30 | Can the shadow off e16 be change in color and depth |
| 14:12.36 | roxville | i don't think so, and e17 only allows change of depth and blur so far |
| 14:13.01 | roxville | e16 has transparency...e17 has shadows |
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| 14:48.32 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.01 | GPLGeek | microsoft claims that they own the linux kernel, and therefore every linux user would be locked up for life |
| 14:49.24 | GPLGeek | I can't make this shit up. It's too crazy |
| 14:50.07 | GPLGeek | authorize wiretaps in investigations of Americans who are merely suspected of 'attempting' to infringe copyrights |
| 14:50.28 | GPLGeek | IE download Elive |
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| 18:09.09 | marcfp | hi |
| 18:09.15 | FreeEagle | hi |
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| 18:13.17 | roxville | FreeEagle, can you explain to me how you tried setting your clock? |
| 18:14.01 | FreeEagle | well |
| 18:14.08 | roxville | and... are you double-booting with windows? |
| 18:14.14 | FreeEagle | no no |
| 18:14.17 | roxville | ok |
| 18:14.20 | FreeEagle | i have just Linux |
| 18:14.22 | keyra | roxville: windows is copyrighted, patented, and you are violating 253 patents |
| 18:14.27 | FreeEagle | Elive on the Laptop |
| 18:14.43 | roxville | keyra, it's 235 patents, get the facts, baby! |
| 18:14.55 | FreeEagle | but i set the GMT time to my PC instaed of my Time zone |
| 18:15.15 | FreeEagle | instead of Berlin <--- my time zone i did GMT |
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| 18:15.23 | roxville | it may be better if you use local time |
| 18:15.49 | FreeEagle | but whenever i choose Berlin, i get +2 hours |
| 18:16.00 | FreeEagle | and this does not show me my local time |
| 18:16.14 | FreeEagle | there is always 2 hours shift in the time by me |
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| 18:16.28 | keyra | FreeEagle: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 18:16.50 | FreeEagle | pkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 18:17.28 | FreeEagle | brb |
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| 18:26.57 | roxville | i gotta take my daughter to the pool, bbl |
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| 20:46.13 | Y1 | hello |
| 20:46.27 | keyra | Y1: hi |
| 20:49.15 | Y1 | i have problems booting elive from external usb CDROM drive. During boot process i get "can't access tty: job control turned off" error and end in (iniramfs) console.... |
| 20:49.29 | keyra | Y1: the 90 % of the problems in Elive are due to a bad read of the CD, maybe your CD media or your cdrom device, check the MD5 of the ISO, try this CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another trademark and in another speed... better from another computer |
| 20:50.29 | Y1 | CD is ok. I tried 0,6,7 and 0,6,8 plus tried it on VMWare emulator. Works ok |
| 20:50.41 | keyra | Y1: If you want to download the new DEV version of Elive, you can found it on a temporal mirror in http://elive.cmhacks.com |
| 20:54.03 | Y1 | hmm... i think i already got 0.6.8 release... or there are several versions? |
| 20:54.48 | Y1 | so far i get it its because mount error... my ext cdrom is /dev/scd0 while during boot loader is trying to mount /dev/hdc (which is exists in laptop but not working well). Any ideas what can be done? |
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| 20:59.10 | Mtraker | hio |
| 20:59.12 | Mtraker | hi |
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| 21:10.22 | FreeEagle | Hi all |
| 21:10.37 | Y1 | hi |
| 21:11.44 | FreeEagle | Y1, hi |
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| 21:33.23 | Mtraker | i've a problem with jahshaka. If i've actived fglrx, make me segment fault, but it is with radeon if i'm user don't run with this message: " Unable to open the database" |
| 21:33.37 | keyra | Mtraker: jahshaka! apt-get install it ;) is maybe the only real .deb packages of jahshaka builded entirely for a debian system |
| 21:34.49 | Mtraker | and other... if i'm root, with radeon, i can run jahshaka |
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| 21:44.04 | zphinx | Anyone awake? |
| 21:44.53 | FreeEagle | go ahead zphinx |
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| 21:52.06 | sambagirl | is enlightened a graphical environment? |
| 21:58.13 | LinuxNIT | sambagirl, yes. enlightenment is a window manager/desktop environment. |
| 21:58.28 | sambagirl | it's magnificent |
| 21:58.30 | LinuxNIT | it is a replacement for things like kde/gnome etc |
| 21:58.37 | sambagirl | yes yes |
| 21:58.44 | sambagirl | what about something i think it is xde? |
| 21:58.50 | sambagirl | x something |
| 21:58.57 | LinuxNIT | xfce? |
| 21:59.18 | LinuxNIT | lxde? |
| 21:59.39 | sambagirl | \yes yes |
| 21:59.44 | sambagirl | xfce |
| 21:59.59 | LinuxNIT | that is another desktop environment |
| 22:00.07 | sambagirl | yes |
| 22:00.34 | sambagirl | i like this enlightenment it gives a briliant visual for the desktop . |
| 22:00.52 | LinuxNIT | yeah it is pretty nice |
| 22:01.00 | LinuxNIT | pretty lightweight too |
| 22:01.36 | sambagirl | yes |
| 22:01.49 | zphinx | Hey hey, im using the current unstable build, and the gnome network-manager seemes to hang on occasion, and ifconfig also seems to hang |
| 22:02.37 | zphinx | im guessing the two are connected too, i have both wireless and ethernet on the box, and i see iwlist in the background constantly |
| 22:02.44 | zphinx | Are these issues known already? |
| 22:02.49 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig hangs?... when running what command? |
| 22:03.01 | zphinx | regular ifconfig |
| 22:03.05 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 22:03.43 | LinuxNIT | for how long? |
| 22:03.53 | zphinx | even with the wireless out of the system |
| 22:03.58 | zphinx | indefinitly until i kill it |
| 22:04.22 | LinuxNIT | installed or live? |
| 22:04.32 | zphinx | installed |
| 22:04.45 | LinuxNIT | did you check the md5sum of the iso before burning? |
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| 22:05.27 | zphinx | no, but i dont think that is the problem, ethernet connects to my lan without a glitch |
| 22:08.06 | zphinx | Setup by the debian installation mind you, cant really set it myself. |
| 22:08.26 | LinuxNIT | cant set what yourself? |
| 22:08.52 | zphinx | active network connection etc etc |
| 22:09.37 | LinuxNIT | why not? |
| 22:09.57 | zphinx | Because network-manager hangs? |
| 22:10.13 | LinuxNIT | it hangs everytime? |
| 22:10.17 | zphinx | yes |
| 22:10.45 | LinuxNIT | and ifconfig hangs everytime? |
| 22:10.48 | zphinx | yes |
| 22:11.15 | LinuxNIT | oh.. well you said on occaision earlier... |
| 22:11.30 | LinuxNIT | only thing i can suggest is upgrading... maybe talk to thana though |
| 22:12.02 | zphinx | its the unstable version, no idea what i can upgrade too, is there any repositories i should add? |
| 22:12.36 | LinuxNIT | its the unstable iso.... but it uses the same repositories.... just upgrade |
| 22:15.51 | LinuxNIT | sambagirl, did give you what you wanted to know? |
| 22:18.10 | sambagirl | yes linuxnit thank you very much. |
| 22:18.28 | LinuxNIT | cool :) |
| 22:18.42 | sambagirl | i was wondering if elive is going to be affected by this microsoft lawsuit against all users and developers and thinkers of linux? i read about? |
| 22:18.53 | sambagirl | what does this mean for different? |
| 22:18.59 | sambagirl | no different? just microsoft windows? |
| 22:19.07 | LinuxNIT | i have no idea what will happen |
| 22:19.14 | keyra | sambagirl: windows is copyrighted, patented, and you are violating 253 patents |
| 22:19.27 | LinuxNIT | lol keyra |
| 22:20.33 | sambagirl | i don't follow what you mean keyra? |
| 22:21.03 | LinuxNIT | ignore keyra ;) shes a stupid bot |
| 22:21.17 | keyra | LinuxNIT: no... stupid human |
| 22:21.31 | LinuxNIT | keyra, shut up |
| 22:21.45 | keyra | LinuxNIT: :-# |
| 22:22.54 | sambagirl | ohh |
| 22:23.00 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 22:23.28 | sambagirl | i had no idea it was saying stuff lastnite to me. |
| 22:23.35 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 22:24.18 | sambagirl | i was trying to decide on a nice distro to play with. looking at how elive is constructed and the enlightened interface makes it a strong candidate to try at my office. |
| 22:24.44 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 22:25.34 | sambagirl | it's hard to decide. |
| 22:25.40 | sambagirl | i know i mentioned ubuntu |
| 22:25.42 | LinuxNIT | one of the things that sold me on elive was its compatibility with the debian repos |
| 22:25.44 | sambagirl | and the bot said something. |
| 22:25.52 | sambagirl | yes that is very important. |
| 22:25.54 | keyra | sambagirl: ubuntu is off topic |
| 22:25.56 | sambagirl | apt-get |
| 22:25.57 | LinuxNIT | yeah just use a capital U |
| 22:25.59 | sambagirl | yes see? |
| 22:26.05 | LinuxNIT | keyra, shut up |
| 22:26.07 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 22:26.16 | sambagirl | she said lastnite it was off topic so i just shut up period. |
| 22:26.26 | sambagirl | lol a bot |
| 22:26.33 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 22:26.38 | LinuxNIT | apt is another bot in here |
| 22:26.51 | LinuxNIT | but he generally only talks if you ask him something |
| 22:26.57 | sambagirl | ahh |
| 22:27.05 | LinuxNIT | apt e17 |
| 22:27.15 | apt | somebody said e17 was IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16 |
| 22:27.16 | sambagirl | i ran bots before on undernet and on apple hotline. |
| 22:27.20 | LinuxNIT | like that |
| 22:27.30 | sambagirl | yes |
| 22:27.30 | keyra | apt: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 22:27.33 | apt | ...but e17 is already something else... |
| 22:27.42 | LinuxNIT | now we get the bots talking to each other ;) |
| 22:27.43 | sambagirl | i have no idea how i even discovered this enlightened. |
| 22:27.47 | keyra | apt: do it! |
| 22:27.50 | apt | ACTION does it!. |
| 22:28.27 | LinuxNIT | enlightenment is popping up in more and more places |
| 22:28.58 | LinuxNIT | well i have to go for a bit... ill be back later |
| 22:29.05 | LinuxNIT | sambagirl, nice to meet you |
| 22:29.28 | LinuxNIT | zphinx, you may want to talk to thana when he is around.. if it is a serious bug he should know about it |
| 22:29.32 | LinuxNIT | later guys |
| 22:30.13 | sambagirl | you too |
| 22:30.17 | sambagirl | bye |
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| 22:44.47 | zphinx | i must say than makes a good system, but his english is horrid at places :/ |
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| 22:46.58 | mainer | anyone using e16? |
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| 23:02.52 | sambagirl | its very goood zphinx |
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| 23:40.05 | GPLGeek | Everyone send letters to your house/senate representitive of your state asking them to kill gonzales's anti-piracy legisltation |
| 23:40.15 | sambagirl | is it possible to run elive on a usb memory stick? |
| 23:40.26 | GPLGeek | sambagirl, it's been done |
| 23:40.45 | GPLGeek | you can install it to a usb stick |
| 23:40.48 | sambagirl | piracy is a good thing when it involved microsoft :) |
| 23:40.52 | sambagirl | good |
| 23:41.00 | GPLGeek | running as livecd from usbstick requires a loopback mount + boot |
| 23:41.08 | sambagirl | umm |
| 23:41.14 | sambagirl | i cant use myslax creator? |
| 23:41.18 | GPLGeek | so you need a fat32, with kernel, load it, loopback mount iso and then chroot into that |
| 23:41.40 | GPLGeek | elive is not slax based |
| 23:41.49 | sambagirl | oh i see |
| 23:41.53 | GPLGeek | so I don't know if myslax creator would do it |
| 23:42.01 | sambagirl | ok |
| 23:42.19 | sambagirl | let me read up on this first |
| 23:42.26 | sambagirl | thanks for the informatoin too gplgeek! |
| 23:44.56 | charasky | elive is based in debian sambagirl |
| 23:45.32 | sambagirl | ahh that is right. for some reason i thought that myslax creator was a universal application for everything.. |
| 23:45.33 | sambagirl | my error |
| 23:45.44 | GPLGeek | It is possible to make a debian livecd quite easily for your specific system, install into a chroot with the exact drivers you need, compile a minimal debian kernel, and makelive the chroot |
| 23:46.23 | charasky | sambagirl GPLGeek yes |
| 23:46.45 | sambagirl | aha |
| 23:46.47 | sambagirl | ok |
| 23:46.52 | GPLGeek | or you could rip the elive scripts and add a ton of drivers like elive has and basicly create one that works on more computers. |
| 23:46.53 | sambagirl | let me read something brb |
| 23:46.57 | GPLGeek | or make your own scripts |
| 23:48.12 | GPLGeek | I've remastered my elive to auto-detect my drivers and not prompt me for ANYTHING whatsoever, even auto-login |
| 23:48.25 | GPLGeek | used it as distcc client |
| 23:52.52 | sambagirl | brb reboot |
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