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| 00:27.13 | roxville | mathmanp, IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:27.27 | roxville | fucking awesome!! |
| 00:27.33 | roxville | ok, bbiab |
| 00:29.01 | mathmanp | roxville, cool |
| 00:30.09 | mathmanp | good night |
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| 00:59.49 | hilltop | roxville, I installed OpenOffice (livecd here - AMD with 1 GB ram, 2GB swap) and calc is running fine. :) |
| 01:04.53 | Bryanstein | roxville: |
| 01:05.40 | Bryanstein | I saw that label you made...newbie my a@# |
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| 01:11.19 | MasterGH | hi, I just found that there's the new version of Elive (1.0 Gem) on mirror.pacific.net.au, is that meant to be there? |
| 01:11.31 | MasterGH | since I thought to get it you needed to donate |
| 01:13.28 | MasterGH | I won't post the link, but it seems that its listed on some websites as the download link for it |
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| 01:17.28 | roxville | hilltop, great! |
| 01:17.46 | roxville | Bryanstein, i am a newbie! |
| 01:17.53 | roxville | hi MasterGH |
| 01:18.18 | roxville | hmmm so it's linked... |
| 01:18.24 | roxville | yes, good thinking |
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| 01:20.04 | roxville | MasterGH, since it's not officially released yet, it's... ok, but i'll notify Thanatermesis |
| 01:20.08 | roxville | thank you :) |
| 01:20.14 | MasterGH | I might have run into the official mirror by accident :( |
| 01:20.25 | roxville | hehe |
| 01:20.42 | MasterGH | its a hidden folder |
| 01:20.54 | roxville | yeah... what date does it have? |
| 01:20.54 | MasterGH | with a random name |
| 01:21.06 | MasterGH | 20/06/07 12:00:00 |
| 01:21.16 | roxville | ok |
| 01:21.41 | MasterGH | may i msg you with the sites that have it listed as a download? |
| 01:21.44 | roxville | we have had some issues with the gem release, so there are a few versions up |
| 01:21.53 | roxville | MasterGH, sure :) |
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| 01:31.49 | hilltop | roxville, hi. I might want to install elive on say 100 PCs of all different models (donated), what is the best way to do this? |
| 01:32.08 | roxville | good question.... |
| 01:33.00 | hilltop | I'm thinking about the extras like OOo and editors that work ;) stored on a thumb for quick extra adds after main install. |
| 01:33.20 | roxville | sounds like a good idea |
| 01:33.26 | hilltop | Because once these go out, they likely won't get more updating. |
| 01:33.39 | roxville | but as far as ghosting... i'mm not the guy to talk to :/ |
| 01:34.01 | hilltop | It would be very helpful to have a blessed extension. Maybe there already is one. |
| 01:34.35 | hilltop | ghosting, is that what it is called. None of the boxes are the same, I assume. |
| 01:34.56 | roxville | yeah... |
| 01:35.12 | roxville | so get some friends and have an install party :D |
| 01:35.13 | hilltop | I'd ask keyra, but I might be talking to a ghost or bot or something ... hehe |
| 01:35.17 | roxville | hehe |
| 01:35.27 | keyra | hilltop: hi :) |
| 01:36.13 | hilltop | Hey, in early days on ubuntu chat, I found I was talking to the bot. How should I have known. :) |
| 01:37.19 | roxville | :D |
| 01:39.00 | hilltop | I don't know if you all read sci-fi, but Vernor Vinge's Truenames has a "bot" called the Postman that interacts with the main characters when they are in their forum. They all have avatars. The postman's is a teletype. |
| 01:39.45 | roxville | i have a 4 year old daughter... i don't have time to read :/ |
| 01:40.01 | hilltop | The teletype is so slow to react that they conclude it is an AI or some such. It wuold take up to two weeks to reply. :) |
| 01:40.46 | hilltop | Vinge's Truenames was a far sighted novella for its time. |
| 01:41.40 | roxville | yeah, i've seen some books and read reviews |
| 01:42.53 | hilltop | Well, my uptime with this livecxd is now 1 day 20 hours and the swap has grown to 400MB. At some point I expect a crash/freeze with these. Last week I testede sidux to crash-point. It happened at about 1GB swap used. I have 2GB swap, 1GB RAM. |
| 01:43.17 | roxville | ok |
| 01:44.23 | roxville | and how long did that take? |
| 01:45.44 | hilltop | roxville, I keep my "stuff" on a thumb drive so I can live livecd in long stretches. It is very interesting trying the same tasks with different software on each major DE. KDE, GNOME, Xfce4, enlightenent, fluxbox, iceWM, etc. |
| 01:46.35 | roxville | i bet! that's pretty cool! |
| 01:49.44 | hilltop | I should keep better notes, I could write an article: Living on live. or maybe Boot live, die on day three. Or Live safe, live liveCD. :/ |
| 01:50.06 | roxville | yeah, you should! |
| 01:50.17 | roxville | we would be VERY interested in your results |
| 01:51.00 | hilltop | And post it on Distrowatch and get flamed to death. So it is "Boot live, die flamed!" LOL |
| 01:51.08 | roxville | LMAO |
| 02:02.17 | roxville | well if we can make elive bebe happy to have your results |
| 02:02.29 | roxville | bebe= we'd be |
| 02:10.13 | hilltop | roxville, I am told the cut-off for donations are win98 boxes, so I think that makes it somewhere in near 500MHz range and maybe 128-256MB RAM. Maybe less. |
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| 02:11.24 | roxville | yeah |
| 02:11.27 | hilltop | The first reject box I got from a biz reject was a P200 running Win98. I could not get its very old 2GB HD to install anything, but it was formatable. |
| 02:11.44 | roxville | hilltop, GPLGeek would be a good guy to talk to about multi-install of elive |
| 02:12.10 | GPLGeek | as in multiple deployment? |
| 02:12.25 | hilltop | So I put a swap partition on it and a FAT32 partition. Then ran KNOPPIX live for more than 90 days uptime. :) |
| 02:12.34 | hilltop | GPLGeek, hello. |
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| 02:12.48 | keyra | hilltop: hi |
| 02:12.53 | mike_ | hello hello |
| 02:13.03 | GPLGeek | I've actually just dealt with a guy that had to deploy elive on about 40 computers |
| 02:13.17 | mike_ | nice |
| 02:13.31 | roxville | hi mike |
| 02:13.44 | hilltop | GPLGeek, how did it go, were they all the same? |
| 02:13.51 | GPLGeek | No they were not |
| 02:14.07 | GPLGeek | The configs were slightly not the same, for example |
| 02:14.12 | GPLGeek | computer name |
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| 02:14.32 | Yaco2 | Hi |
| 02:14.33 | GPLGeek | instead of all being named cafe, they were named cafe1 cafe2 cafe3 cafe4 cafe5 cafe6, etc |
| 02:14.41 | Yaco2 | im trying to download Gem |
| 02:14.46 | Yaco2 | from the slow servers |
| 02:14.50 | Yaco2 | it seems to be down |
| 02:14.53 | GPLGeek | they also had their own ips |
| 02:15.00 | Yaco2 | any alternative link? |
| 02:15.09 | GPLGeek | here's how we did it..... |
| 02:15.29 | GPLGeek | He installed elive to one of the machines *they were all the same type/model of machine* |
| 02:15.54 | GPLGeek | he then set up a script that would ask for a little input upon starting |
| 02:15.59 | GPLGeek | for the first time that is |
| 02:16.13 | GPLGeek | then he used g4u to clone the drive |
| 02:16.36 | GPLGeek | he deployed it on to every machine, then booted them. They were assigned all the info and then rebooted. |
| 02:16.40 | GPLGeek | also |
| 02:16.42 | hilltop | Yaco2, you can use wget -c fileaddress.iso to continue if you get cutoff. And even if from another site. |
| 02:16.58 | GPLGeek | he made a .vmx install so non-elive systems could run elive from vmware player |
| 02:17.10 | GPLGeek | he also made a qcow image for qemu |
| 02:17.21 | hilltop | Yaco2, I have just let downloads go for a day or so sometimes. :) |
| 02:18.06 | GPLGeek | you can use the SAME EXACT howtos that are on debian-administration, and other debian sites to clone or multi-install to the same machine. |
| 02:18.35 | Yaco2 | hilltop, thanks! |
| 02:19.50 | hilltop | Yaco2, try it on a small file, interupt it, then resume. Even if you try to resume after it is done, it will tell you - when you use -c option. |
| 02:20.32 | Yaco2 | hilltop, thanks but roxville give me an alternative downlaod link |
| 02:21.00 | roxville | Yaco2, shame on you |
| 02:21.02 | hilltop | GPLGeek, thanks for the info. You may see my story at about 12:07 above. |
| 02:21.38 | hilltop | Yes, but you need not lose what you already downloaded. Oh well, for next time. :) |
| 02:22.05 | GPLGeek | I would like to see a more automatic install for elive |
| 02:22.30 | GPLGeek | maybe where you can burn the elive iso, and then append a "rules" file onto it to auto-install |
| 02:22.36 | roxville | GPLGeek, i have already talked to thana about that |
| 02:22.40 | roxville | and he's all for it |
| 02:22.42 | GPLGeek | that's already doable |
| 02:22.46 | GPLGeek | it's just not done yet |
| 02:22.47 | roxville | "install elive for me!" |
| 02:22.51 | GPLGeek | it's a lot of grunt work |
| 02:22.55 | roxville | yep |
| 02:22.59 | Yaco2 | why roxville ? |
| 02:23.50 | roxville | coz it was given in a priv... |
| 02:24.19 | hilltop | GPLGeek, I anticipate a collection of donated boxes over time - all different for poor, handycap, retired, etc. So they are for surfing, email, simple documents, etc. Win98 type stuff buit without malware. :) |
| 02:25.14 | roxville | Yaco2, it's ok bro |
| 02:25.35 | Yaco2 | ok roxville thans again |
| 02:25.41 | roxville | np :) |
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| 02:27.13 | hilltop | hello Elive_user40 |
| 02:27.27 | keyra | hilltop: hi |
| 02:27.37 | Elive_user40 | Hi, thanks! |
| 02:28.13 | hilltop | How long have you been live? I'm in my second day, still alive. :) |
| 02:28.51 | GPLGeek | ya we need a "quick deploy" option that automaticly takes the whole hard drive |
| 02:29.20 | roxville | Elive_user40 what version elive ? |
| 02:29.31 | hilltop | keyra, what is your postal address? :) (think Vinge: True Names) LOL |
| 02:29.45 | keyra | hilltop: hi :) |
| 02:29.47 | roxville | LOL |
| 02:30.04 | Elive_user40 | Okay, here's a dumb noob question. I've been using e17 as a window manager under Mepis, but Elive works differently in some respects... and I cannot figure out how to add apps to either Engage or the Ibar. How do you do it???? ;-) |
| 02:30.06 | roxville | hilltop, google: keyra |
| 02:30.18 | keyra | Elive_user40: with only one "?" you have sufficient |
| 02:30.26 | Elive_user40 | hah |
| 02:30.31 | roxville | heh |
| 02:30.47 | Elive_user40 | Ooops, damn trackpad, lost part of my question there... |
| 02:30.52 | roxville | Elive_user40, you use an app called entangle |
| 02:31.02 | roxville | you can use the elie panel |
| 02:31.15 | roxville | found to the far right in ibar |
| 02:31.21 | roxville | a folder with tools |
| 02:31.34 | Elive_user40 | Yeah, the Elive panel... hang on... |
| 02:31.35 | roxville | choose the leftest icon |
| 02:31.50 | roxville | leftest...lol |
| 02:31.58 | hilltop | roxville, wow, thanks. That should keep me alive for a while. :P |
| 02:32.29 | Elive_user40 | Ahhhh.... Entangle! A thousand thanks... |
| 02:32.31 | roxville | hilltop, i tell ya , she was aptly named :) |
| 02:32.37 | roxville | no pun intended, apt |
| 02:32.59 | hilltop | so what is the apt-get command? |
| 02:33.01 | roxville | hehe np Elive_user40 :) |
| 02:33.16 | roxville | hilltop, that's how you install things via terminal |
| 02:33.25 | roxville | synaptic is based on apt-get |
| 02:33.47 | hilltop | yes, how do I install keyra? (joke) |
| 02:34.02 | keyra | hilltop: :) |
| 02:34.12 | Elive_user40 | And is the Engage system tray functional? Really? Will it display Gnome or KDE applets |
| 02:34.13 | roxville | you only insert... don't install... |
| 02:34.34 | roxville | <Elive_user40> And is the Engage system tray functional? Really? Will it display Gnome or KDE applets |
| 02:34.44 | roxville | i am not usre... but i THINK so |
| 02:34.47 | roxville | sure |
| 02:35.10 | roxville | OW! |
| 02:35.34 | Elive_user40 | Alright, thank you. Bedtime here in Texas. I'll catch you guys later when I can't figure out how something else works... |
| 02:35.46 | roxville | in texas? |
| 02:35.50 | Elive_user40 | yep |
| 02:35.59 | roxville | shit it ain't even 10:30 here in SC! |
| 02:36.14 | roxville | ok, it is... 10.36... |
| 02:36.20 | roxville | sorry :) |
| 02:36.46 | Elive_user40 | Well, yeah, I know, but I've been up since about 4:30 a.m.! |
| 02:36.53 | roxville | oh... |
| 02:36.59 | Elive_user40 | I'm losing my ability to type... |
| 02:36.59 | roxville | ok, you're excused |
| 02:37.08 | Elive_user40 | Many thanks. |
| 02:37.15 | roxville | np :) |
| 02:37.18 | roxville | have fun! |
| 02:37.35 | Elive_user40 | I will... Elive 1.0 is cool. |
| 02:37.48 | Elive_user40 | But I need to stop fiddling with it now and get some shuteye. |
| 02:37.55 | roxville | it is... i LOVE the new entrance theme |
| 02:37.57 | Elive_user40 | " |
| 02:38.03 | roxville | lol |
| 02:38.10 | Elive_user40 | bye! |
| 02:38.15 | roxville | bye now |
| 02:38.38 | roxville | all my ex-faxes live in texas... |
| 02:41.39 | roxville | hilltop, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:41.46 | roxville | are the best commands to know |
| 02:42.04 | roxville | always run apt-get update first |
| 02:42.18 | keyra | roxville: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 02:42.19 | roxville | i even do that vefore i run synaptic |
| 02:42.28 | roxville | shut up keyra |
| 02:42.42 | keyra | roxville: :-# |
| 02:42.46 | roxville | she likes it rough sometimes... |
| 02:43.08 | hilltop | roxville, yes, I have used them many times. :) It was the second command I did, then installed nvu. |
| 02:43.20 | roxville | oh, ok |
| 02:43.28 | roxville | i apologize then |
| 02:45.03 | hilltop | no there was a question in my mind: do I need to run update in synaptic if I did alread on CLI. |
| 02:46.46 | roxville | no |
| 02:47.31 | roxville | and if you get errors, there's usually a conmnection prob to one of the repos |
| 02:47.52 | roxville | cream /etcapt/sources.list |
| 02:48.07 | roxville | and choose the repo in the u.s. |
| 02:48.31 | roxville | unless you like the french one... i happen to like it, it's good and fast |
| 02:48.45 | roxville | oops |
| 02:48.54 | roxville | <roxville> cream /etc/pt/sources.list |
| 02:48.59 | roxville | crap |
| 02:49.16 | roxville | <roxville> cream /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:49.17 | hilltop | It would be useful it the mouse over the icons n the bottom would say what they are for. I clicked them to see last session and get tangled up in install! Thought I'd have to hit the panic button! LOL |
| 02:49.30 | roxville | lol |
| 02:49.48 | roxville | yeah... i know |
| 02:50.25 | roxville | that's all i can say in that matter ... |
| 02:52.04 | hilltop | why does cream say it is vim? |
| 02:52.43 | roxville | it's based on vim |
| 02:53.04 | hilltop | hmmm, no :wq hmmmm |
| 02:53.30 | roxville | http://cream.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:54.19 | roxville | http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/06/cream-for-vim-making-vim-more-user.html |
| 02:55.00 | roxville | http://cream.sourceforge.net/faq.html |
| 02:55.27 | roxville | hmmm i should prolly read the faq too... |
| 02:56.30 | hilltop | now that is a neato site layout, four quadrants. |
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| 03:00.05 | roxville | yeah, very neat |
| 03:03.30 | roxville | "And while I have very little interest in that seminal 1960s rock band, I do play a Fender Stratocaster." |
| 03:03.32 | roxville | LOL |
| 03:04.08 | hilltop | roxville, the way I work from liveCDs is I have a bunch of files on thumb drive: notes, web site links, even some special web pages. Then when I boot a new livecd to play with for a week or so, I load it up with tools that are missing (web editor) and my web pages, etc. |
| 03:05.47 | hilltop | One web page shows my stock market stuff, grabs the live charts etc. Then I watch that in the day time. Other wise I do some developing, surf /. and lxer.com, distrowatch, news.google.com (Linux) etc. |
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| 03:07.04 | hilltop | Oh, and kep up with SCO-crap on groklaw.net. :) Boy are they a takin a beatin. |
| 03:07.17 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:08.37 | roxville | her stuff about the MS thingly good |
| 03:08.45 | roxville | damn |
| 03:08.58 | roxville | her stuff about the MS thing is really good |
| 03:09.45 | roxville | hilltop, like i said, it's very cool, and i amm REALLY looking fwd to your "review" |
| 03:10.14 | roxville | and yes, we have a suspicion of a mem leak somewhere, but we dunno where it is... |
| 03:12.01 | hilltop | roxville, memleak is in Firefox, no? They talked about it on their site a year ago. It leaks in so many places they are plugging them all the time. |
| 03:12.57 | roxville | yeah, you could be right |
| 03:13.39 | hilltop | I have been experimenting with links2 -g website.html & which launches a pretty good "safe" browser. Great for reading yahoo email, news.google.com and so forth. No opopups, no flash, just text and images. |
| 03:14.38 | roxville | yeah |
| 03:14.48 | GPLGeek | firefox is great just get flashblock, adblock, stumble upon, google toolbar, and.... |
| 03:14.49 | hilltop | Hey, how nice, it is here! I had tried links without luck. :D |
| 03:14.51 | GPLGeek | a theme |
| 03:15.04 | GPLGeek | there's a theme called "old person" made for old people |
| 03:15.23 | roxville | yeah, i was just gonna say, links2 is still included in elive |
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| 03:17.58 | hilltop | Hi GPLGeek. I may check "old person" :), I'm retired. Text size and layout are an issue for me. In links I set the text to 30 or so. Many sites go to he** when I make the text larger. I'll be looking at that issue for my donate-PC project. |
| 03:18.20 | GPLGeek | firefox for the win |
| 03:18.30 | GPLGeek | ctrl + / - |
| 03:18.38 | GPLGeek | easy hotkey for text size |
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| 03:18.52 | keyra | GPLGeek: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 03:19.38 | hilltop | I know ctrl + -. But sites like groklaw.net or distrowatch have two column layout and the side pannel usually grows faster than the main content. I hate that. :/ |
| 03:20.11 | hilltop | Also fine tune with ctrl-middle mouse wheel |
| 03:24.24 | hilltop | roxville, >>REALLY looking fwd to your "review"<< Thanks, noted. I'll post here. :) |
| 03:26.45 | roxville | thank you :) |
| 03:27.17 | roxville | where do you live, hilltop ? |
| 03:27.47 | hilltop | GPLGeek, so is there a folder to save to hold extras for a series of installations, like OOo? |
| 03:27.52 | roxville | the looooow country... no hills at all |
| 03:28.03 | hilltop | LOL |
| 03:29.38 | GPLGeek | well elive does generate a list of packages installed |
| 03:29.47 | GPLGeek | before upgrading |
| 03:30.15 | GPLGeek | but its like EVERY package not just extra stuff |
| 03:30.20 | roxville | that's a good idea |
| 03:30.56 | hilltop | roxville, http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=san+diego,ca&z=9&om=1 |
| 03:31.05 | roxville | but you could use that, and have it on the usb key or whatever |
| 03:31.09 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.19 | roxville | oh san diego :) |
| 03:31.27 | GPLGeek | I had 1 hour sleep in like 2+ days |
| 03:31.51 | GPLGeek | I might just substitute sleep for coffee |
| 03:31.58 | roxville | lol |
| 03:32.18 | roxville | hilltop, GPLGeek is up from where you are... a few miles |
| 03:32.24 | roxville | ok, maybe a few more... |
| 03:32.50 | hilltop | GPLGeek, I'm thinking of grabbing the folder that has the downloaded packages from my machine. Before they were unpacked. I've seen that mentioned somewhere. |
| 03:34.05 | hilltop | Ah, so GPLGeek might be my neighbor. Well, no - there are no geeks near here. But there are many I will be contacking if I can get this going. |
| 03:34.13 | GPLGeek | mmm I'm all over san diego, san francisco, sacramento, reno |
| 03:34.53 | GPLGeek | in fact yesterday I got a call and had to just go to reno and back which is why I didn't get sleep |
| 03:34.59 | GPLGeek | in a few days I might have to go to san diego |
| 03:35.01 | hilltop | GPLGeek, I have a sis in Sacramento and a bro near Reno. :) |
| 03:35.10 | roxville | :) |
| 03:35.18 | roxville | so they were the ones calling... |
| 03:35.41 | GPLGeek | I actually went to reno for my brother |
| 03:36.12 | GPLGeek | someone hit a cow there was so much blood |
| 03:36.25 | GPLGeek | *SPLAT* |
| 03:36.41 | GPLGeek | it was probably a trucker |
| 03:36.49 | GPLGeek | from the amount of damage |
| 03:36.53 | hilltop | hope it wasn't my bro's. He still has some south of Reno. |
| 03:37.12 | GPLGeek | lol it was right after the summit before tahoe |
| 03:37.24 | GPLGeek | which doesn't make any sense |
| 03:37.33 | GPLGeek | I don't see any cows around there |
| 03:37.54 | hilltop | hmmm, close to the fire, I hear the cattle has to keep moving or get roasted. :) |
| 03:38.05 | GPLGeek | maybe that was it |
| 03:38.16 | GPLGeek | I could smell the fire |
| 03:39.26 | hilltop | I was going 100+ over the pass south of Gardnerville and saw cattle ahead. I held the horn on for .5 miles but they never budged. So I had to slow... Grrr. |
| 03:39.48 | GPLGeek | speaking of fire, my buddy got out of venezuela.... Thank god... Their govt was killing and burning the people of his town because they didn't agree with absoloute power. |
| 03:40.06 | hilltop | Ummm, that was back in the good old days before speed limits. :P |
| 03:40.23 | GPLGeek | sure it was hilltop |
| 03:40.32 | GPLGeek | but when they made it they had speed limits. |
| 03:40.51 | GPLGeek | you would have had to go through the mormon immigrant gap or another path to get no speed limits |
| 03:40.54 | hilltop | Also when I was a lot younger. :/ |
| 03:41.01 | GPLGeek | that's more like it |
| 03:41.16 | GPLGeek | there WERE limits, but you were young and it didn't much matter |
| 03:41.32 | roxville | :? |
| 03:41.50 | hilltop | No, Nevada had no limits for many years. - before the 55 non-sense. |
| 03:41.51 | GPLGeek | But what do I know i'm only 23 |
| 03:42.07 | roxville | i mean :/ |
| 03:42.12 | GPLGeek | oh, they had the limits on the turns on the CA side |
| 03:42.18 | GPLGeek | not sure about streightaways |
| 03:44.55 | hilltop | Well, my dear child. LOL. I'm talking almost before computers! You wouldn't remember paper tape either. I was there when they introduced mylar so your boot loader tape wouldn't get damaged. :) |
| 03:45.09 | roxville | at times, at least :D |
| 03:45.15 | hilltop | Right, down by Topaz one had to slow down. :) |
| 03:46.13 | GPLGeek | mmmm... I read a lot of stuff.... |
| 03:46.30 | hilltop | Come to think of it I was driving my dads station wagon. That was stupid. Oh well. |
| 03:46.31 | GPLGeek | I watched a special on california highways and infrastructure |
| 03:46.45 | GPLGeek | I don't know why |
| 03:47.10 | GPLGeek | one thing I learned is that roads are not worth it if your the one building them LOL |
| 03:47.23 | GPLGeek | that's some crazy job. |
| 03:47.28 | GPLGeek | or at least it was |
| 03:47.36 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:48.06 | roxville | but it's true... paving doesn't really bring any money back at all |
| 03:48.14 | roxville | it just provides jobs |
| 03:48.18 | hilltop | I can't figure the bridges to no-where they make sometimes. You seen them? Up in the air 50 feet and stop... I think thing there is one in central CA |
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| 03:48.48 | roxville | hello Elive_user47 |
| 03:48.57 | roxville | welcome to #elive |
| 03:49.02 | keyra | roxville: hi |
| 03:49.08 | Elive_user47 | hello |
| 03:49.23 | hilltop | hi |
| 03:49.27 | roxville | :) |
| 03:49.54 | roxville | Elive_user47... keyra is a bot... hilltop and i are not |
| 03:50.02 | hilltop | My bro's church is near the Tahoe fire and it was saved by air drops of red stuff. wow |
| 03:50.08 | keyra | roxville: hi :) |
| 03:50.54 | hilltop | hehe I was talking to the keyra thing for some time. Oh my, :/ |
| 03:51.41 | roxville | mile from where the 9 firefighters were killed in charleston last week |
| 03:51.49 | roxville | i live |
| 03:52.28 | GPLGeek | omfg I just listened to the new evidence list against hans reiser, the fact that he played "violent or bloody" video games is one of the top 10 pieces of evidence that he's guilty. |
| 03:53.14 | GPLGeek | seriously let's burn this DA in a pile of doom cds, it would be the FIRST video game related death |
| 03:53.14 | roxville | GPLGeek, i read an article about him yesterday,,,it was the weirdest thing i've read in a long time |
| 03:53.43 | GPLGeek | he needs to go free NOW, they have NO evidence other that what was proven to be planted against him |
| 03:54.18 | GPLGeek | also nina's ex-boyfriend, who had killed over 28 people, only admiting to 8 or 9 of them, had admitted to killing her shortly after her disapearance. |
| 03:54.24 | roxville | http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_hansreiser |
| 03:54.26 | hilltop | hmmm I haven't been following. Was there planted evidence? Good grief. |
| 03:54.48 | roxville | his wife MUST have fled back ho,me to russia |
| 03:54.50 | GPLGeek | also hans has a alaby and no bruises, cuts, signs of resistance, the same could not be said for her ex boyfriend the night of the "disapearance" |
| 03:55.19 | GPLGeek | yes, they tried to make hans reiser "the next scott peterson" to advance the careers of the law enforcment and da's |
| 03:55.34 | GPLGeek | after they were caught in a pile of shit they stopped talking to the press |
| 03:55.40 | GPLGeek | and downplayed everything |
| 03:55.57 | roxville | Elive_user47 we talk about ots of things here :) |
| 03:56.20 | roxville | do you have an elive-specific question? we can do that, too :) |
| 03:56.24 | GPLGeek | the "blood evidence" of nina's is "menstral blood in the shower" "A small amount probably from a sneeze on a pillar, proof it came form the nose" and ONE SINGLE DROP in the car. |
| 03:56.28 | GPLGeek | ask yourself |
| 03:56.34 | GPLGeek | where has your blood been? |
| 03:56.40 | GPLGeek | EVERYWHERE |
| 03:56.50 | GPLGeek | and they could not even prove some of the blood was even ehrs |
| 03:57.00 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.50 | roxville | * Elive_user47 has quit ("I'm Elivized !") |
| 03:57.55 | GPLGeek | they also supressed witnesses who saw her being pulled from her car, and others who saw that man that dropped off her car at the street where it was found. |
| 03:57.56 | roxville | you scared him off... |
| 03:58.15 | GPLGeek | and now without even getting their names its like they never existed |
| 03:58.18 | roxville | it's ok, i'm just glad it wasn';tme this time :D |
| 03:58.45 | roxville | ya GPLGeek it's a w.e.i.r.d plot |
| 04:00.01 | roxville | man, i have not seen revdjenk in a looooong time! |
| 04:03.59 | hilltop | So, if there is a trial, this dstuff would have to be brouight out. Aren't there pretrial hearings also? |
| 04:05.39 | roxville | it's a mess |
| 04:05.54 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.02 | roxville | this makes it even more weird |
| 04:07.41 | hilltop | brb |
| 04:14.54 | roxville | i gotta get some sleep |
| 04:15.22 | roxville | it's my step son's b-day tomorrow... and we got tons of stuff to do |
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| 04:15.24 | roxville | have a good night, ppl :) |
| 04:15.25 | roxville | <roxville> i gotta get some sleep |
| 04:15.25 | roxville | <roxville> it's my step son's b-day tomorrow... and we got tons of stuff to do |
| 04:15.25 | roxville | hilltop, it was nice metting you :) |
| 04:15.25 | hilltop | GPLGeek, have you heard of Roger Hedgecock? He was mayor of San Diego years ago and has a radio show now. |
| 04:15.30 | roxville | and good luck with your project, even if you do NOT choose elive :) |
| 04:15.37 | hilltop | You too roxville |
| 04:15.59 | roxville | thx |
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| 04:33.02 | GPLGeek | hilltop, no I have not heard of hedgecock |
| 04:33.13 | GPLGeek | I don't do politics there |
| 04:33.40 | hilltop | well, ok. It is not that. :) |
| 04:34.05 | hilltop | Here is one of the projects I want to hit on for Linux. ... |
| 04:35.34 | hilltop | GPLGeek, http://rogerhedgecock.com/pages/homefrontsd.html They give away donated Windows computers - reject any without license! |
| 04:36.30 | GPLGeek | take the rejects? |
| 04:36.37 | hilltop | I don't know what %age, but that means a lot get put in the dump land fill AND the users don't get the Linux malware free experence. |
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| 04:37.50 | hilltop | I want to put Linux on the rejects - and I might be chomping more than I am able - but there are LUGs here and many helpful but busy geeks. |
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| 04:42.35 | hilltop | hi mike |
| 04:42.54 | hilltop | oops, I mean mike_ |
| 04:43.05 | hilltop | brb |
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| 05:15.48 | mike_ | hello hilltop |
| 05:15.54 | hilltop | hi |
| 05:16.02 | keyra | mike_: hi |
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| 05:17.24 | hilltop | does everyone leave about this time. It is late here in CA |
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| 05:21.13 | hilltop | LinuxNIT, well I'm nearing my second day in elive livecd. And it hasn't crashed :) |
| 05:21.25 | LinuxNIT-II | crashed? |
| 05:21.27 | LinuxNIT-II | elive? |
| 05:21.33 | LinuxNIT-II | youll have to force that |
| 05:21.36 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 05:21.47 | LinuxNIT-II | pull the plug that will crash it for you ;) |
| 05:22.21 | hilltop | LOL, so many distros do before a week is out - Firefox gets a memory leak or some web site's javascript goes nuts. |
| 05:22.33 | LinuxNIT-II | oh yeah? |
| 05:22.41 | LinuxNIT-II | wierd. |
| 05:22.54 | LinuxNIT-II | well i have to admit im on a laptop so i reboot fairly often |
| 05:23.12 | LinuxNIT-II | but my servers been running for a couple weeks :) |
| 05:23.14 | hilltop | I had sidux up for about this long and it froze solid. Had to hit the reset. |
| 05:23.19 | LinuxNIT-II | just put it together |
| 05:23.26 | LinuxNIT-II | ewww |
| 05:23.37 | hilltop | Yes, servers aren't surfers. :) |
| 05:23.51 | LinuxNIT-II | true |
| 05:24.08 | LinuxNIT-II | hey LinuxNIT check your uptime |
| 05:24.28 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 05:24.52 | hilltop | I have an old P450 running ubuntu - uptime is 316 days. But I had to carefully exit down to relog in twice. Managed to without reboot. |
| 05:26.06 | LinuxNIT | this desktops uptime is 4days 20 hours :) |
| 05:26.29 | LinuxNIT | i tend to reboot often :-/ |
| 05:26.39 | LinuxNIT | multiple distros |
| 05:26.42 | LinuxNIT | errr installs |
| 05:26.50 | hilltop | Linux should run forever, IMO. But then there are those pesky applications. |
| 05:27.03 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 05:27.30 | hilltop | Ah, yes, my main box is rebooted couple times a week to try livecd releases. |
| 05:28.09 | Elive_user69 | hi |
| 05:28.15 | LinuxNIT-II | hello Elive_user69 |
| 05:28.29 | keyra | LinuxNIT-II: hi |
| 05:28.38 | hilltop | I've recently been in Mint, sudix and now elive. My HD install is PClos vintage about a year ago. |
| 05:28.49 | Elive_user69 | I just tried elive GEM! |
| 05:29.12 | hilltop | GEM is nice, I'm in it now :) |
| 05:29.36 | LinuxNIT-II | hilltop, are you at two day up time in livecd mode? |
| 05:30.36 | Elive_user69 | it is so different from other popular linuxes; i installed few applications openofice lyx etc, but unable to see them appear on the menu! |
| 05:31.37 | LinuxNIT-II | :-/ thats the downside of this version of e17... you have to make an eap for the program then add it to the menu with entangle... although i thought openoffice was included |
| 05:31.40 | hilltop | Yes, I like to test distros for up to a week in live mode. I have 1GB RAM, 2GB swap and so install those apps that seem to be missing for my use. If they don't come in the repo, I doon't stay long. I need a web editor at least. So I installed nvu first thing here. :) |
| 05:31.54 | keyra | hilltop: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 05:32.19 | hilltop | Yes, the apps don't seem to show up in the menu. OOo did however! |
| 05:32.51 | hilltop | Is it OK to argue with keyra? Maybe not. :) |
| 05:32.58 | LinuxNIT-II | that changes in the newer versions of e17.. however elives default has not upgraded cause it has a pretty stalbe version at the moment |
| 05:33.25 | LinuxNIT-II | keyra, is just a duumb bott |
| 05:33.35 | hilltop | I had to install OOo, another 200MB - no problem so far. |
| 05:33.39 | keyra | LinuxNIT-II: you think it ? |
| 05:33.59 | Elive_user69 | All said and done GEM has a wonderfull feel; the other thing - it is wedded to Debian |
| 05:34.13 | keyra | Elive_user69: Debian r00lz ! |
| 05:34.23 | hilltop | I've been faked about that bot most of the evening. roxville clued me. LOL |
| 05:34.27 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user69, yeah i love how close it sticks to debians repos |
| 05:34.37 | LinuxNIT-II | thats partly what sold me on it |
| 05:35.06 | LinuxNIT-II | hilltop, lol |
| 05:35.39 | LinuxNIT-II | hilltop, do you run on a laptop or desktop? |
| 05:37.32 | hilltop | desktop, an old AMD 1600 with nVidia, flat pannel 1280x1024 screen. I forgot how to get good 1280x1024 in elive. I had 1154xXXXX (what ever) once though. |
| 05:38.00 | hilltop | I booted with nv choice, maybe another choice is better. |
| 05:38.11 | LinuxNIT-II | isnt that 1280X1024 option in the elpanel ? |
| 05:38.22 | LinuxNIT-II | could be. |
| 05:39.08 | hilltop | I like the way sidux, Mint, Ubuntu come up in full 1280x1024. Some livecds just don't tho, like PClos, elive (maybe) and Mandrive-one. |
| 05:39.48 | hilltop | I have to get the right elive-nvidia driver. It is in my notes somewhere. |
| 05:40.06 | LinuxNIT-II | i cant say much there... im not much of one for configurein xservers |
| 05:43.26 | hilltop | That is OK, I know those on the above list can be set up, so if I do a real install, it can be done. It is easier is some, due to "political" choices I think. Like sidux is out of Germany and very strictly Free Software. This because of their read of German law. |
| 05:44.09 | LinuxNIT-II | just guessing here... is sidux based off debian sid? |
| 05:45.05 | hilltop | hmmm, I think so. |
| 05:45.21 | LinuxNIT-II | livecd? |
| 05:45.23 | hilltop | Oh yes, hence the name |
| 05:46.20 | LinuxNIT-II | kde aye |
| 05:46.23 | LinuxNIT-II | :-/ |
| 05:46.23 | hilltop | live cd. It has a nice look to it, KDE. And many apps in their own repo. And one can add repos to get the "forbiden" friut. |
| 05:46.37 | hilltop | You don't like KDE? |
| 05:47.06 | LinuxNIT-II | not really |
| 05:47.22 | LinuxNIT-II | kde has always given me trouble |
| 05:47.36 | keyra | LinuxNIT-II: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 05:47.44 | LinuxNIT-II | i like konqeror though (for network browseing) |
| 05:47.45 | hilltop | Check this, in live mode, I installed iceWM to the session, started a new session in iceWM. Had both - in livecd |
| 05:48.37 | hilltop | You know - switch between sessions with ctrl-alt-F7 to F8 |
| 05:48.45 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah |
| 05:49.05 | LinuxNIT-II | i love the ability to do that |
| 05:49.11 | LinuxNIT-II | it comes in handy some times |
| 05:49.28 | hilltop | And I did it under the sidux user id. One could of course add another user and have both in each own's desktop. |
| 05:50.13 | hilltop | I've done this experiment with Mint, sidux, pclos, and of course knoppix has it already set up. |
| 05:51.22 | LinuxNIT-II | so are you just addicted to testing distros or do you do it for a purpose? |
| 05:51.31 | hilltop | I've set up as many as 5 desktops on hard disk installs of Mint and PCLos - either one handled 5 session s at a time, all different DEs. |
| 05:52.44 | hilltop | I'm not just a distro hopper, (if you never land, it is not a hopper) I'm a floater. :) Actually recently I've gotten a real purpose tho... |
| 05:52.55 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 05:54.27 | hilltop | I'm looking into pushing Linux out to the retired, handycapted, widows, etc which charity gives donated PCs to. Those are Windows PCs tho! And if a donation hasn't got a liscence, it is refused by these organizations!! |
| 05:54.46 | hilltop | I want to see Linus on those reject boxes. |
| 05:55.16 | LinuxNIT-II | cool |
| 05:55.27 | LinuxNIT-II | sounds like a worthy project |
| 05:56.04 | hilltop | I'm looking for a good Linux to put on these older boxes that can hold up to years without gurus helping with every little thing. As in Windows with malware. |
| 05:56.27 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah i can understand that |
| 05:57.49 | hilltop | I have a P450 running Ubuntu5.10 upgraded to 6.10 with uptime of 317 days! It updates/upgrades without rebooting. I have to watch its swap with "top" to keep it from jamming (twice now). But it keeps on running... |
| 05:58.37 | hilltop | They have a popup for updates. It is easy, not sure it is easy for a widow, but maybe. |
| 05:59.18 | hilltop | And elive has synaptic, so I think it can be as easy. Not sure about update announcements. |
| 05:59.54 | LinuxNIT-II | no popups for update announcements |
| 05:59.55 | hilltop | LinuxNIT-II, what are you running? |
| 06:00.10 | LinuxNIT-II | but its running on debian etch so there wont be many |
| 06:00.33 | LinuxNIT-II | i run elive |
| 06:00.46 | LinuxNIT-II | exclusivley at the moment |
| 06:01.56 | hilltop | What I'm up against is the organizations will give the boxes out to folks I won't really know about - privacy etc I expect. So if I get involved, who knows. So far it is something I'm looking into. |
| 06:02.56 | LinuxNIT-II | cool... at least youre promoting it and helping people... or at least looking into doing so |
| 06:02.56 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 06:02.58 | hilltop | Elive is debian etch? Yea, that is more stable than ubunu's |
| 06:03.28 | LinuxNIT-II | yes debian etch |
| 06:03.56 | LinuxNIT-II | we followed debian to stable... we were in testing with etch but stable is nice |
| 06:04.39 | hilltop | I've already helped a couple old guys - got them into ubuntu about a year ago. One is a little younger than me but retired. The other is 78 and a real computer noob. |
| 06:04.44 | LinuxNIT-II | apparently youre older than i was guessing :) |
| 06:04.59 | hilltop | The older guy is cute, he hadn't used a computer since Apple][ |
| 06:05.25 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 06:07.07 | hilltop | Thank you, I'm retired - in low 60s. :) Anyway, the guy bought a Window box for $10 but it was passworded and he could not boot it. |
| 06:07.39 | LinuxNIT-II | change the pw ;) |
| 06:08.49 | hilltop | I gave him a colorfull ubuntu 6.06 from Ubuntu and about two weeks later he called me - still not able to get into the box. It had bios pw too. |
| 06:09.08 | LinuxNIT-II | ahh... been there |
| 06:09.13 | LinuxNIT-II | but i was the one that set the pw |
| 06:09.14 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 06:09.21 | hilltop | I told him to screw Windows, just install ubuntu - he had been using it in live mode. |
| 06:09.45 | LinuxNIT-II | the bios was pw protected but it would boot a livecd? |
| 06:10.20 | hilltop | He hot wired the bios chip, and installed ubuntu by himself. Next time he called he was beside himself with glee, it worked! |
| 06:10.38 | hilltop | I think he hot wired to bois first thing. |
| 06:11.15 | LinuxNIT-II | whatever works. |
| 06:11.24 | LinuxNIT-II | i just pulled the batter on mine :) |
| 06:11.28 | LinuxNIT-II | but some are soldered in |
| 06:12.19 | hilltop | I'm not a hard ware guy, so I don't know. I usually wreck things. But software - I'm OK. |
| 06:12.40 | LinuxNIT-II | well i was pretty nervous messing with mine |
| 06:13.05 | LinuxNIT-II | i tried everything i could think of before pulling it apart and pulling the battery |
| 06:13.31 | LinuxNIT-II | i was nervous cause it is a laptop |
| 06:13.37 | LinuxNIT-II | too many parts |
| 06:13.46 | hilltop | The younger guy in mid 50s will not upgrade his ubuntu set up because he is worried it won't work the printer then. He moved some distance from me, so he is on his own now. But he likes Linux. He was a Win98 guy. |
| 06:14.44 | hilltop | I always found most of these electronic things have too many parts. At least I always have so many left over. :) |
| 06:14.58 | keyra | hilltop: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 06:15.27 | LinuxNIT-II | ill bet he likes linux after win98 |
| 06:15.50 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah i always have an extra screw or two |
| 06:16.00 | LinuxNIT-II | pray it dosent fall apart on me |
| 06:18.24 | hilltop | When I (with help) upgraded my 486 to pentium 12 yr ago, I lost a screw driver in the powr supply. I think it went in there. It got caught by the magnet - never saw it again. |
| 06:21.45 | hilltop | Well, I'm getting tired - maybe another time. Good luck with your laptop. :) |
| 06:25.13 | LinuxNIT-II | laters... nice chatting |
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| 08:17.44 | SuperpeZ | hello, good morning |
| 08:17.58 | keyra | SuperpeZ: hi |
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| 10:41.21 | Thanatermesis | wizard123: ping |
| 10:45.43 | ElonGlasb | Hello, does the Gem also heve E16? |
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| 10:46.55 | ElonGlasb | by the way I don't have paypal is there another way to donate? |
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| 12:30.16 | Elive_user70 | Hola! |
| 12:30.35 | Ratrish | Hello! |
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| 13:10.24 | roxville | hello Elive_user51 |
| 13:10.38 | keyra | roxville: hi |
| 13:11.03 | Elive_user51 | Hi roxville |
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| 13:31.13 | roxville | http://www.linux.com/feature/115207 |
| 13:31.25 | roxville | bash blogger... cool little app! |
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| 14:19.59 | Elive_user40 | Hi, y'all. |
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| 14:21.29 | Elive_user40 | Anybody else getting crummy framerates on their Entrance screen? My mouse pointer is all jerky and stuff. (This is the "dark" theme.) |
| 14:22.22 | Elive_user40 | Guess not. (LOL) |
| 14:26.31 | roxville | hmmm |
| 14:26.39 | roxville | no, i have not seen that |
| 14:26.58 | roxville | what kind of computer is it? and what graphics card? |
| 14:27.23 | roxville | Elive_user40? |
| 14:28.54 | Elive_user40 | roxville: Well, it's a pretty old machine; Compaq Armada M700 with an ATi Rage Mobility card... ancient stuff. But I didn't see this behavior when I ran from the Live CD. |
| 14:29.08 | Elive_user40 | PIII at 650 mhz. |
| 14:29.20 | roxville | what video driver are you using? |
| 14:29.39 | roxville | a rage should probably run in vesa |
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| 14:30.38 | Elive_user22 | fuckers |
| 14:30.51 | roxville | also, after logging in, if you change the color depth to 16 bits, you will see a significant performance boost |
| 14:31.14 | roxville | thanks Elive_user22, nice of you to notice :) |
| 14:32.13 | Elive_user40 | Yep, I think I'm running in VESA. On the live CD, if I choose anything but VESA, X fails to load and I end up at a command prompt. Yeah, lemme try changing the color depth; I'm also getting a lot of "ghost trails" when I move windows around. |
| 14:33.19 | roxville | ok, yeah try that |
| 14:33.33 | Elive_user40 | Where do you set the color depth?? |
| 14:33.37 | Elive_user40 | Can't find it... |
| 14:34.30 | roxville | you can also boost performance a bit by shutting off unnecessary modules and even setting the virtual windows to 3 or 2 windows instead of 4 |
| 14:34.40 | roxville | open elpanel |
| 14:35.09 | roxville | it's the tool folder to the right in the launcher bar |
| 14:35.17 | roxville | click on the keys icon |
| 14:35.32 | roxville | monitor settings are in the upper left corner |
| 14:37.13 | Elive_user40 | Got it... hang on, gonna relaunch... |
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| 14:38.55 | roxville | the virtual windows you set by clicking on the screen and find "configuration", then go to "screen" and click on the "desktop settings" |
| 14:39.13 | roxville | Elive_user40 any difference? |
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| 14:40.39 | Elive_user40 | Ummm... maybe. I also switched Entrance themes to the new Elive default (where the words appear and disappear) from the darker theme, and the frame rate seems much smoother; no jerky pointer... |
| 14:40.49 | Elive_user40 | So I'm not sure if it's the theme or the screen depth. |
| 14:40.53 | keyra | Elive_user40: bee ]:) |
| 14:41.11 | roxville | maybe... i prefer the light theme too |
| 14:41.33 | roxville | that entrance theme is gorgeous, i stay in entrance a while just to look at it :D |
| 14:41.34 | Elive_user40 | So, what were you saying about virtual windows and performance? |
| 14:41.46 | roxville | <roxville> you can also boost performance a bit by shutting off unnecessary modules and even setting the virtual windows to 3 or 2 windows instead of 4 |
| 14:41.51 | roxville | <roxville> the virtual windows you set by clicking on the screen and find "configuration", then go to "screen" and click on the "desktop settings" |
| 14:42.08 | Elive_user40 | Yeah... I'm there... |
| 14:42.51 | Elive_user40 | What's the diff between the horizontal and vertical sliders? |
| 14:43.20 | roxville | with the vertical you ADD windows |
| 14:43.29 | roxville | i mean |
| 14:43.37 | roxville | you can stacke them if you want |
| 14:44.04 | Elive_user40 | confused... man, e17 needs some really good tutorials! :P |
| 14:44.14 | Elive_user40 | It's making me bonkers... |
| 14:44.59 | roxville | you're right |
| 14:45.27 | Elive_user40 | I'm gonna also look at modules and see what I can ditch... |
| 14:45.30 | roxville | but i managed to live with it for over two years... and i still love it |
| 14:45.42 | roxville | and i am no command-line cowboy |
| 14:46.39 | Elive_user40 | Yes... I mean, I am figuring out stuff as I go, but it really does need good documentation. I've installed and wiped elive at lesat 4 different times. I'm entranced (pun intended) by the eye candy, but then get put off when I can't get any real work done. ;-) |
| 14:46.41 | roxville | Elive_user40 e17 does have a newer version...it's a bit unstable at the moment, but the configs are getting MUCH better and easier |
| 14:48.00 | Elive_user40 | I also wonder about the diffs between "generic e" and what elive offers. I had e17 running on top of Mepis (my favorite "practical" distro) and the config stuff was very different... no elpanel and such. |
| 14:48.04 | roxville | what is the real work you wanna get done? |
| 14:48.20 | roxville | i'm just inquiring, not trying to be a smart-ass |
| 14:48.20 | Elive_user40 | Well, right now I'm avoiding real work... |
| 14:48.25 | roxville | LOL |
| 14:48.30 | Elive_user40 | I don't mind you being a smart ass... |
| 14:48.33 | Elive_user40 | :-) |
| 14:48.37 | roxville | hehe |
| 14:48.48 | roxville | there's a difference... |
| 14:49.12 | Elive_user40 | Mostly the basics: writing (OO), net stuff, chat... the usual. |
| 14:49.16 | Elive_user40 | to be honest |
| 14:49.28 | roxville | ok |
| 14:50.11 | roxville | apt make-eap |
| 14:50.12 | apt | hmm... make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 14:50.34 | roxville | Elive_user40 that link may be helpful |
| 14:50.45 | Elive_user40 | Okay, here's one: "generic" e17 offers a module that you can place in the iBar that is a simple system volume slider. Whereehe |
| 14:50.48 | roxville | if you install apps that we have not made icons for already |
| 14:51.07 | Elive_user40 | where the heck is the volume module in elive...? |
| 14:51.13 | Elive_user40 | did that make sense? |
| 14:51.32 | roxville | it did. where did you see this? on get-e.org? |
| 14:51.49 | roxville | elive uses an older but more stable version of e17 |
| 14:51.57 | Elive_user40 | I think it just came with the repositories that I used... |
| 14:52.11 | Elive_user40 | that could explain the diffs |
| 14:52.17 | roxville | it's gone through so many changes lately, that they are not compatiable anymore when it comes to themes and such |
| 14:52.37 | roxville | the 'new" e17 can even have icons on the desktop |
| 14:52.44 | Elive_user40 | so I need to avoid d/ling stuff from e17... |
| 14:52.49 | Elive_user40 | yeah, I know... it's cool. |
| 14:52.58 | roxville | yeah |
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| 14:53.56 | Elive_user40 | Okay... so under modules, I have a module called evolume. How do I get it functional? |
| 14:54.13 | roxville | you CAN install a build that Thana made...but it's incompatiable with entrance, so you'd have to start e17 from console |
| 14:54.38 | Elive_user40 | sounds dangerous... ;-) |
| 14:54.44 | roxville | :D |
| 14:55.07 | roxville | i use it sometimes... but i like the new entrance so much that i hesitate |
| 14:55.26 | Elive_user40 | I think you're more of a Linux jockey than I am... I'm still a noob. |
| 14:55.34 | roxville | anyway, the sound module... can work...you should enable it, that should be all |
| 14:55.42 | roxville | but...it may cause segfaults... |
| 14:56.03 | roxville | so elive has alsamixergui for that |
| 14:56.08 | Elive_user40 | I did enable it... but it doesn't show up anywhere in the gui. |
| 14:56.35 | roxville | try restarting e |
| 14:56.41 | Elive_user40 | Oh, and what's the diff between enabled and loaded? |
| 14:56.45 | roxville | if that doesn't work... i'm not sure |
| 14:57.14 | Elive_user40 | Done that already... I suspect it's just not compatible... |
| 14:57.16 | roxville | loaded means it's in the background, sucking cpu cycles |
| 14:57.22 | roxville | but not visible |
| 14:57.38 | Elive_user40 | Not A Good Idea (R) |
| 14:57.46 | roxville | :) |
| 14:58.21 | roxville | Elive_user40 i'm afraid i'm gonna have to leave you now...it's my step son's birthday, and ... my wife is staring at me... |
| 14:58.51 | Elive_user40 | ah, I know the staring wife phenomenon well... take care! I need to get to work anyway... |
| 14:58.58 | roxville | hehe |
| 14:59.08 | roxville | ok, good luck with all :) |
| 14:59.10 | Elive_user40 | thanks for the help... |
| 14:59.20 | roxville | np buddy :) |
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| 16:11.07 | Ratrish | Hello! |
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| 16:24.38 | Clayton__ | hello? |
| 16:24.52 | keyra | Clayton__: hi |
| 16:24.55 | illu_ | EHLO Clayton__ |
| 16:25.02 | Clayton__ | what's up? |
| 16:25.14 | illu_ | nothing much and you? |
| 16:25.29 | Clayton__ | not much, just trying to get a stable release of Elive actually... |
| 16:25.53 | illu_ | need to make a donation :) |
| 16:26.11 | Clayton__ | I don't have the money to do so... |
| 16:27.40 | illu_ | offer a server :) |
| 16:27.57 | Clayton__ | ... I'm a 16 year old kid with one computer... |
| 16:28.29 | illu_ | :/ |
| 16:29.03 | Clayton__ | not to mention no credit card... |
| 16:30.03 | illu_ | i were see a web site who ask for donation to help the webmaster to buy a PDA |
| 16:30.13 | illu_ | do that for elive XD |
| 16:30.40 | Clayton__ | with what money? |
| 16:32.59 | illu_ | the guy who whant a pda have just make a web site where all visitor can make donation to help him to buy it |
| 16:34.08 | Clayton__ | what happened to the whole philosophy of Linux being free? |
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| 16:35.32 | LinuxNIT | did you read the site? |
| 16:35.40 | Elive_user2 | no |
| 16:35.53 | LinuxNIT | i meant Clayton__ |
| 16:36.00 | illu_ | elive is free |
| 16:36.11 | Elive_user2 | yes,i know |
| 16:36.13 | illu_ | that the access to the mirror who need a donation |
| 16:36.16 | Clayton__ | LinuxNIT, yes, I did |
| 16:36.26 | LinuxNIT | Clayton__, i reccomend you go back to it and re-read it... it covers your situation. |
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| 16:36.38 | Clayton__ | the link for no donations is broken... |
| 16:36.42 | illu_ | server for relay are not free |
| 16:36.47 | LinuxNIT | keep reading |
| 16:37.40 | illu_ | the server i use to offer a mirror for elive cost me 150€ / mounth (like 180~190$) |
| 16:37.59 | illu_ | if i don't call for donation, i can't paid it |
| 16:38.07 | illu_ | it's same for the elive's project |
| 16:38.27 | Clayton__ | LinuxNIT, I don't know what you expect me to see |
| 16:39.45 | Thanatermesis | * Slow download Server We are really sorry, but the owner of the slow mirror can't maintain it anymore...this link is broken, if you really don't have a way to make a donation to download Elive, contact Thanatermesis. |
| 16:39.46 | LinuxNIT | do you see the actual link? |
| 16:39.51 | Thanatermesis | thanks LinuxNIT :) |
| 16:39.59 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 16:40.21 | LinuxNIT | like i said... read the whole page ;) |
| 16:40.28 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 16:40.32 | LinuxNIT | off to work again... cyall |
| 16:40.37 | Clayton__ | what? |
| 16:40.40 | illu_ | Thanatermesis, on peut donner les url pour acceder aux images meme s'il n'y a pas eu de dons? |
| 16:40.44 | LinuxNIT | oh my |
| 16:40.47 | Elive_user2 | download of elive , just put it in google, can be downloaded everywhere |
| 16:41.05 | Elive_user2 | francais |
| 16:41.10 | Clayton__ | Thanatermesis, I read that, what do you want me to get out of that? |
| 16:41.13 | Thanatermesis | illu_, comme il dit sur cette ligne, si la personne ne peut vraiment pas faire le don, alors oui |
| 16:41.19 | Elive_user2 | bonsoir |
| 16:41.39 | illu_ | ok, car sur icedslash on renvois direct les gens sur la page de dons |
| 16:41.44 | Thanatermesis | illu_, ce que c'est pas bien c'est de sharer "publiquement" le link sur de forums ou similair... comme distrowatch fait dans toutes les versions stables :( |
| 16:41.53 | Elive_user2 | biensur |
| 16:42.14 | illu_ | ben oué, c'est respecter le projet :x |
| 16:42.32 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, this line says: if you don't possible to made a donation for download Elive, contact Thanatermesis |
| 16:42.36 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, who is Thanatermesis ? |
| 16:42.43 | Clayton__ | I know, I came in here to talk to you |
| 16:43.15 | Thanatermesis | <illu_> ok, car sur icedslash on renvois direct les gens sur la page de dons |
| 16:43.17 | Thanatermesis | merci :) |
| 16:43.49 | Thanatermesis | illu_, j'ai essayé de lui expliquer ça a distrowatch mais a parament il arrive pas a comprendre :/ |
| 16:43.51 | Clayton__ | so, Thanatermesis, you know my problem, care to help out? |
| 16:44.08 | illu_ | :/ |
| 16:44.16 | Thanatermesis | illu_, pour tant, quand il i a une version stable de red-hat ou autre distribution qui donne pas les links nonplus... il met pas le link (raison?) |
| 16:44.54 | illu_ | surtout redhat, si y avait un réel interet a cet os je comprendrais, mais s'pas le cas |
| 16:45.29 | Thanatermesis | illu_, c'est pas que il a le link est il le met directement... il cherche vraiment pour ce link (ou il fait un don pour le voire) est il le met sur l'anonce de distrowatch... selon ce mails, il est pas d'acord du tout de ne pas le ofrire (il le offre pas avec red-hat est autres), meme en savant la raison |
| 16:45.42 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, yes, read your private message |
| 16:46.25 | illu_ | ha j'ai cru que c'etait une personne qui vous fournissait un relais |
| 16:46.30 | Clayton__ | X-Chat definitely did not open a new tab |
| 16:46.37 | Clayton__ | and I don't know why :S |
| 16:47.21 | Thanatermesis | illu_, dans le temps que je lui avait envoiée les emails, je lui explicait la raison de pourqoi les dons... je lui disait que je metait mon "full day time" pour travailler sur elive, mais que ça me raportait rien (on doit manger), alors c'etait ma decision de essayer ce systeme ou tout simplement arreter de faire Elive pour chercher un boulot ou depenser mon full time work |
| 16:47.28 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, now ? |
| 16:47.59 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, --- Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
| 16:48.08 | Clayton__ | nope... I hate X-Chat sometimes... |
| 16:48.13 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 16:48.18 | illu_ | ben meme si tu avais un boulot a coter, je pense qu'il est normal que les utilisateurs y mettent du leur |
| 16:48.28 | illu_ | ce genre de choses n'est pas gratuites pour toi non plus |
| 16:48.30 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, is not xchat, is the server of freenode, it disables PV to not-registererd users |
| 16:48.37 | Thanatermesis | keyra, thanks :) |
| 16:48.47 | Clayton__ | Thanatermesis, just do it through private chat then |
| 16:48.52 | keyra | Thanatermesis: welcome :) |
| 16:49.53 | Thanatermesis | illu_, est ben grace a distrowatch, il a anoncée sur le rss, la version Gem + le link, dans softpedia.com est linuxcd.org, ils donnent le link de telechargement de Elive aussi |
| 16:50.34 | Thanatermesis | illu_, dans la derniere version de Elive stable, je "jouait" a bouger la iso de dir... il le re-cherchait... a la fin, marre, il avait mis la iso sur un serveur privée a lui lol |
| 16:50.48 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, private chat = private messages |
| 16:50.50 | illu_ | lol |
| 16:51.18 | Clayton__ | *sigh* |
| 16:51.26 | illu_ | fait 2 repertoire, 1 avec la vrai version et l'autre avec un film X lol |
| 16:51.30 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, if is not your last time to you are here, register your user, is only one step |
| 16:51.39 | illu_ | y a une chance sur 2 qu'il se rate :p |
| 16:51.47 | Thanatermesis | and when i mean one step is one step :) |
| 16:52.08 | Thanatermesis | illu_, lol |
| 16:52.12 | illu_ | sinon, pourquoi ne met tu pas un fichier htaccess sur les mirroirs qui imposerais que le referer soit le site de elive? |
| 16:52.13 | Thanatermesis | illu_, ça serait marrant |
| 16:52.17 | illu_ | oué |
| 16:52.53 | Thanatermesis | illu_, VERY intersting :) |
| 16:53.04 | Thanatermesis | illu_, tu sait comment le faire ? je vais le essayer tout de suite :) |
| 16:53.09 | Thanatermesis | Clayton__, ok, it works now |
| 16:53.28 | illu_ | je regarderais, sur notre serveur on utilisais ça pour le mirroir des video de systemofadown.fr , je vais voir si j'ai toujours le fichier |
| 16:53.37 | Thanatermesis | illu_, tres simple mais tres bien pensée :) |
| 16:54.15 | Thanatermesis | illu_, ok, car je attend de finir un ptit video-demo de Elive gem pour le annoncer officielement |
| 16:54.17 | ElonGlasb | Does Gem have E16? |
| 16:54.53 | Thanatermesis | illu_, ce que je suis pas sure c'est si distrowatch va le annoncer vraiment quand je le ferait officielement (il est un peut dure ce type...), car "il a dejá" annoncé |
| 16:55.09 | Thanatermesis | ElonGlasb, yes, but very possible to its the last version |
| 16:55.54 | ElonGlasb | Ok, thanks by the way is there another way to donate besides paypal? |
| 16:57.40 | Thanatermesis | why... paypal not works ? |
| 16:57.57 | ElonGlasb | Don't know I don't have it. |
| 16:58.00 | Thanatermesis | not for now, i need a alternative :( |
| 16:58.18 | Thanatermesis | ElonGlasb, well, credit card is accepted on the same paypal stuff |
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| 16:59.03 | illu_ | Thanatermesis, http://illu2.icedslash.org/htaccess |
| 16:59.06 | Thanatermesis | i don't have a alternative about paypal... paypal is broken in the entire world, i have send some tickets to paypal but those noobs don't make anything, 3 days with paypal broken in the entire world lol |
| 16:59.27 | Thanatermesis | more info about this paypal issue on the "warning" of: http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/ |
| 17:00.21 | Thanatermesis | illu_, exist a way to "hack" this way or is simply not possible if you don't enter from elivecd.org ? |
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| 17:00.51 | illu_ | some soft like norton can disable the referer on IE |
| 17:01.22 | Thanatermesis | but if is disabled, then just "dont works", n o ? |
| 17:01.31 | illu_ | in this way it's not possible to access to the mirror |
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| 17:03.20 | Thanatermesis | keyra ? |
| 17:03.31 | FreeEagle | Hi Thanatermesis |
| 17:03.39 | Thanatermesis | hi FreeEagle |
| 17:03.46 | Thanatermesis | mmh... is keyra going out sometimes ? |
| 17:03.58 | FreeEagle | i do not know |
| 17:04.16 | Thanatermesis | illu_, well, but by default, all the browsers give this data, correct ? |
| 17:04.23 | ElonGlasb | Just info why I still hang on E16, I just never managed to proper setup new items in the menu off E17 I tried but it never worked besides I'm just too lazy to check that out, or is it easyer now? |
| 17:04.24 | illu_ | yes |
| 17:04.43 | Thanatermesis | ok... i try it... |
| 17:05.02 | Thanatermesis | illu_, what i change on this file ? just the link ? both (2 lines) to the donations return page ? |
| 17:05.07 | Thanatermesis | or... just elivecd.org ? |
| 17:05.08 | illu_ | so browser like wget don't send that, they only can directly download the file |
| 17:05.41 | illu_ | i think the best is the donation page |
| 17:05.44 | Thanatermesis | ElonGlasb, well... not really, but you have bookmarks on your firefox about that and keyra knows taht too |
| 17:06.12 | Thanatermesis | ElonGlasb, btw, on the new versions of e17, it is more easy... yes, just wait, Elive can be update its version of e17 soonly on next dev's :) |
| 17:06.12 | illu_ | because if you only put elivecd.org, a guy who make a request on elivecd.org can access to the mirror |
| 17:06.32 | ElonGlasb | Ok will check that. |
| 17:06.43 | Thanatermesis | illu_, ok, i try it... let me check :) |
| 17:06.51 | illu_ | ok :) |
| 17:06.56 | Thanatermesis | illu_, i put this file on where the isos is, yes ? |
| 17:07.43 | illu_ | in the stable dir if you only whant to restrict stable version |
| 17:08.01 | illu_ | or on the / of the mirror if you whant to lock all dir |
| 17:08.35 | Thanatermesis | ok, let me try... |
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| 17:11.52 | illu_ | i go eat, see you all |
| 17:12.27 | FreeEagle | bye illu_ |
| 17:12.57 | Thanatermesis | c u illu_ and thanks :) |
| 17:14.01 | FreeEagle | Thanatermesis, why i have this wlan problem ( conflict ) |
| 17:14.03 | FreeEagle | ? |
| 17:14.12 | Thanatermesis | idk... show me the file |
| 17:14.26 | FreeEagle | which file ? |
| 17:14.36 | FreeEagle | give me the command and i will show you the file |
| 17:14.46 | Thanatermesis | FreeEagle, register your user |
| 17:14.53 | Thanatermesis | --- Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
| 17:15.07 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 17:15.19 | FreeEagle | it is already registred |
| 17:15.21 | FreeEagle | you can see |
| 17:15.29 | FreeEagle | -NickServ- You have already identified |
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| 17:16.58 | Thanatermesis | strange... me too |
| 17:17.09 | FreeEagle | i do not know where is the Problem |
| 17:17.15 | FreeEagle | Okay |
| 17:17.18 | MaximilianoADL | buenas |
| 17:17.32 | keyra | MaximilianoADL: nas nas |
| 17:17.44 | Thanatermesis | FreeEagle, i have say, show me your /etc/network/interfaces ( paste.debian.net ) |
| 17:17.58 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://paste.elivecd.net ? |
| 17:18.37 | Thanatermesis | hu ? lol |
| 17:18.47 | Thanatermesis | keyra, server not found... ping get|Off please |
| 17:19.01 | keyra | Thanatermesis: pong |
| 17:19.13 | Thanatermesis | keyra, guapa, que no, que pinguees a get|Off anda |
| 17:19.19 | FreeEagle | iface lo inet loopback |
| 17:19.19 | FreeEagle | auto lo |
| 17:19.19 | FreeEagle | iface loinetloopback |
| 17:19.19 | FreeEagle | iface Speedport_W_501Vinetdhcp |
| 17:19.19 | FreeEagle | wireless-essidSpeedport W 501V |
| 17:19.20 | FreeEagle | wireless-keyoff |
| 17:19.22 | FreeEagle | iface mopsinet dhcp |
| 17:19.24 | FreeEagle | wireless-essidmops |
| 17:19.26 | FreeEagle | wireless-keyoff |
| 17:19.27 | keyra | Thanatermesis: gracias guapissimo :) |
| 17:19.28 | FreeEagle | iface Sitecominetdhcp |
| 17:19.30 | FreeEagle | wireless-essidSitecom |
| 17:19.34 | FreeEagle | wireless-keyoff |
| 17:19.36 | FreeEagle | iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 17:19.38 | FreeEagle | wireless-essid mops |
| 17:19.40 | FreeEagle | auto eth1 |
| 17:19.42 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 17:19.49 | Thanatermesis | FreeEagle, ok... bug, let me fix it... |
| 17:19.57 | Thanatermesis | FreeEagle, mmmh, and your networks are set up or not ? |
| 17:19.57 | FreeEagle | okay |
| 17:20.16 | FreeEagle | what do you mean ? |
| 17:20.29 | Thanatermesis | well.. nothing, wait |
| 17:20.33 | FreeEagle | okay |
| 17:21.56 | Thanatermesis | FreeEagle, remove only the first line |
| 17:22.20 | FreeEagle | How ? |
| 17:22.29 | FreeEagle | can you explain this to me please |
| 17:22.36 | Thanatermesis | edit the file |
| 17:22.40 | FreeEagle | okay |
| 17:22.41 | FreeEagle | wait |
| 17:22.44 | FreeEagle | i will do it |
| 17:22.46 | Thanatermesis | of /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:22.54 | Thanatermesis | the: iface lo inet loopback |
| 17:23.51 | FreeEagle | done |
| 17:23.58 | FreeEagle | i saved and closed |
| 17:24.16 | FreeEagle | now if i will restart the pc , do you think it will work ? |
| 17:25.26 | Thanatermesis | wait |
| 17:25.29 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 17:25.31 | FreeEagle | okay |
| 17:25.37 | FreeEagle | hummm |
| 17:25.43 | FreeEagle | i am waiting |
| 17:28.31 | Thanatermesis | keyra, ping |
| 17:28.46 | keyra | Thanatermesis: pong |
| 17:28.59 | FreeEagle | Thanatermesis, what have you found ? |
| 17:29.07 | Thanatermesis | FreeEagle, wait, im fixing the package... |
| 17:29.11 | FreeEagle | aha i see |
| 17:29.12 | FreeEagle | :) |
| 17:34.27 | FreeEagle | here is too quite |
| 17:37.58 | Thanatermesis | not really, my brain is at 92 Cº |
| 17:38.44 | FreeEagle | hehehe |
| 17:39.10 | hilltop | brain overclocked, no that is funny! |
| 17:39.11 | Thanatermesis | FreeEagle, ok, update your package 'fixloopback' |
| 17:39.31 | Thanatermesis | hilltop, + a surdose of GOA ;) |
| 17:39.37 | hilltop | s/no/now/ |
| 17:39.38 | FreeEagle | Thanatermesis, shoud i download the bonus CD to be able to install openoffice which i need to use very important for me |
| 17:39.39 | FreeEagle | ?? |
| 17:40.12 | Thanatermesis | FreeEagle, yes, i give you the link if... the /msg's works |
| 17:40.29 | Thanatermesis | i think to the problem is mine... bbiab |
| 17:42.10 | FreeEagle | great he is gone now :S |
| 17:42.28 | FreeEagle | i will be back brb |
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| 17:45.00 | Thanatermesis | strange stuff |
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| 17:46.14 | illu_ | back |
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| 17:50.26 | Elive_user74 | alguien habla español |
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| 19:25.38 | inGNUcious | Thanatermesis, hola como estas? |
| 19:25.52 | keyra | inGNUcious: que tal ? |
| 19:26.14 | inGNUcious | Thanatermesis, te hago una pregunta... como puedo hacer para bajar el elive nuevo (stable)... por q no tengo ni tarj de credito ni paypal :( |
| 19:26.21 | inGNUcious | keyra, hola como estas? |
| 19:26.35 | keyra | inGNUcious: yo muy bien, y tu ? |
| 19:26.59 | inGNUcious | keyra, bien, bien, aqui tomando un examen... |
| 19:27.29 | inGNUcious | keyra, de donde sos? |
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| 19:35.26 | inGNUcious | egrub, como estas? |
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| 20:18.51 | AlexAnteMachina | Hello everybody! |
| 20:20.04 | AlexAnteMachina | I just instlled Gem but the GUI doesn't work. |
| 20:21.37 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, what GUI ? |
| 20:22.12 | AlexAnteMachina | the graphical user interface, also known as Dekstop. |
| 20:22.29 | AlexAnteMachina | ups...Desktop. |
| 20:22.48 | hilltop | hello AlexAnteMachina |
| 20:23.02 | keyra | hilltop: hi |
| 20:23.03 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, why don't works ? what says ? |
| 20:23.13 | Thanatermesis | the system boots correctly ? where stops ? |
| 20:23.45 | AlexAnteMachina | at the moment the login screen should appear it falls back to terminal-mode, tries to start graphic-mode again, falls back to terminal....and so on. |
| 20:24.11 | AlexAnteMachina | I tried it with and without framebuffer. |
| 20:24.24 | Elive_user66 | excuse me, i've got a problem with mplayer for choise my audio tracks |
| 20:25.08 | AlexAnteMachina | The most interesting thing is, that Gem works properly when booting from CD. |
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| 20:25.52 | AlexAnteMachina | Oh hey! wow! Thanatermesis! The Master himself! |
| 20:27.18 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, try control + alt + F12 |
| 20:27.26 | Thanatermesis | you can see the messages of entrance and know the problem |
| 20:27.41 | AlexAnteMachina | ctrl+alt+F12. |
| 20:27.47 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user66, define audio tracks |
| 20:27.50 | AlexAnteMachina | okay...I'll try it. |
| 20:28.43 | AlexAnteMachina | but I need to reboot for testing! |
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| 20:37.30 | AlexAnteMachina | hi! |
| 20:40.44 | Thanatermesis | hi |
| 20:40.50 | Thanatermesis | i need to go, i go back after, bbiab |
| 20:42.39 | AlexAnteMachina | Good Night everybody! |
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| 21:00.10 | Elive_user54 | wohoo |
| 21:00.13 | Elive_user54 | >( |
| 21:00.15 | Elive_user54 | :) |
| 21:00.34 | Elive_user54 | setxkbmap |
| 21:00.36 | Elive_user54 | :) |
| 21:00.39 | Elive_user54 | now works |
| 21:01.17 | Vittorio | hmm, i'm not that Vittorio |
| 21:02.41 | theOtherVittorio | ok, i'm having glitches with elive |
| 21:02.49 | theOtherVittorio | any of the devels here? |
| 21:03.02 | theOtherVittorio | i'd like to report them? |
| 21:03.27 | theOtherVittorio | some time ago (around version 0.6 or so) i talked to a devel or two... |
| 21:03.46 | theOtherVittorio | it was an express bugtesting and debugging two-day session... |
| 21:03.47 | theOtherVittorio | :) |
| 21:03.50 | theOtherVittorio | i liked it. :) |
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| 21:11.08 | mathmanp | theOtherVittorio, I think the main devel's are busy fixing the last glitches in the new stable realease |
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| 21:12.05 | GPLGeek | http://desktop.google.com/linux/index.html Google desktop for linux |
| 21:12.47 | GPLGeek | google also announces that EVERY google service will arrive to linux faster than before as they are moving to portable yet fast solutions for their software |
| 21:13.49 | GPLGeek | all future versions of software should be able to be just compiled for another system, without needing to be translated with wine/crossover type systems. |
| 21:13.50 | theOtherVittorio | mathmanp, that's the one i'd like to report on. :) |
| 21:16.38 | mathmanp | theOtherVittorio,the main devel seeems to be not present, the most devel like persons I see in the room are GPLGeek and LinuxNIT |
| 21:17.02 | GPLGeek | what do you need to know? |
| 21:17.43 | GPLGeek | I do a lot of E-mail support and testing. I filter through priorities and examine possible solutions. |
| 21:19.49 | theOtherVittorio | well, i've noticed one thing so far |
| 21:19.58 | theOtherVittorio | i'm booting on widescreen laptop |
| 21:20.03 | theOtherVittorio | 1440x900 |
| 21:20.20 | GPLGeek | what graphical driver? |
| 21:20.23 | theOtherVittorio | in textmode (before GUI) i've chosen that resolution |
| 21:20.38 | theOtherVittorio | but i get 1024x768 |
| 21:20.51 | theOtherVittorio | actually it's booted in vmware |
| 21:21.07 | GPLGeek | vmware is another monster |
| 21:21.17 | GPLGeek | vmware auto-sizes the guest |
| 21:21.29 | theOtherVittorio | 00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMware Inc [VMware SVGA II] PCI Display Adapter |
| 21:21.46 | theOtherVittorio | i'm running fullscreen |
| 21:21.53 | theOtherVittorio | it has this resolution |
| 21:21.53 | GPLGeek | for example mine is set at 1680x1050 but right now its at 1024x768 |
| 21:22.00 | theOtherVittorio | and it's properly detected |
| 21:22.06 | GPLGeek | but when I hit alt+enter it goes fullscreen |
| 21:22.10 | theOtherVittorio | it's just not selected |
| 21:22.16 | theOtherVittorio | i am fullscreen |
| 21:22.17 | GPLGeek | hmm |
| 21:22.22 | theOtherVittorio | from the boot onward |
| 21:22.52 | GPLGeek | nano the xorg.conf, check that |
| 21:22.58 | GPLGeek | change it to what you want |
| 21:22.58 | theOtherVittorio | wait |
| 21:23.10 | GPLGeek | ctrl alt backspace will reset x |
| 21:23.41 | theOtherVittorio | it's already there |
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| 21:23.54 | GPLGeek | I'll tell you that vmware will not go higher res in full screen mode if 1) your host machine is 16bit color 2) host machine can't support such a resolution or is not set at least that high |
| 21:24.31 | GPLGeek | I use vmware every day |
| 21:24.53 | theOtherVittorio | 1440x900x32bpp |
| 21:25.04 | theOtherVittorio | the host display is at that |
| 21:25.38 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 21:25.46 | theOtherVittorio | i'll try resetting X |
| 21:25.47 | GPLGeek | Hi wasynyt |
| 21:25.51 | theOtherVittorio | be back in a sec |
| 21:25.53 | GPLGeek | k |
| 21:25.54 | theOtherVittorio | hi wasynyt |
| 21:26.07 | wasynyt | :p |
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| 21:26.55 | toVittorio | nope, still at 1024x768 |
| 21:26.58 | toVittorio | :) |
| 21:27.33 | wasynyt | how are you doing GPLgeek |
| 21:27.40 | GPLGeek | doing ok |
| 21:27.41 | toVittorio | e17 configuration doesn't even offer resolutions above that |
| 21:28.04 | GPLGeek | put it in manually |
| 21:28.13 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 21:28.33 | toVittorio | while elive panel gives all possible resolutions |
| 21:28.45 | toVittorio | after i set it in elive panel it says to restart |
| 21:28.57 | toVittorio | but i just did restart the X and nothing changed |
| 21:29.04 | toVittorio | :-| |
| 21:29.56 | GPLGeek | check the x logs for errors (EE) |
| 21:30.00 | GPLGeek | grep it |
| 21:30.06 | toVittorio | wait |
| 21:30.11 | wasynyt | have you checked xorg.conf |
| 21:30.12 | GPLGeek | also (WW) check those if nothing stands out |
| 21:30.48 | toVittorio | Current Operating System: Linux Elive 2.6.18-elive #2 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 6 00:41:56 CET 2007 i686 |
| 21:30.50 | toVittorio | (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. |
| 21:30.50 | toVittorio | (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER |
| 21:30.50 | toVittorio | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable |
| 21:31.32 | toVittorio | WW: some font warnings |
| 21:31.42 | toVittorio | font paths missing |
| 21:32.15 | wasynyt | does elive support aiglx |
| 21:32.26 | toVittorio | xorg.conf: Modes "1440x900" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" |
| 21:32.43 | GPLGeek | delete everything but 1440x900 |
| 21:32.54 | toVittorio | ok, wait |
| 21:33.31 | wasynyt | those fonts should not matter |
| 21:34.20 | toVittorio | brb |
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| 21:35.18 | Elive_user54 | nick toVittorio |
| 21:35.29 | toVittorio | lol |
| 21:35.46 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:35.48 | toVittorio | it's at 1280x800 now |
| 21:35.57 | toVittorio | where it got that, i have no idea. :) |
| 21:36.13 | wasynyt | what do you want |
| 21:36.23 | toVittorio | 1440x900 |
| 21:36.26 | toVittorio | :) |
| 21:36.35 | toVittorio | my laptop native |
| 21:36.39 | wasynyt | :S |
| 21:37.03 | toVittorio | it is within vmware, but it's running fullscreen from the boot onward |
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| 21:37.22 | GPLGeek | I've seen this before, even in other distros |
| 21:37.28 | GPLGeek | it seems vmware only problem |
| 21:37.39 | wasynyt | what is your screen config |
| 21:37.46 | GPLGeek | do you have the vmware drivers installed? |
| 21:37.52 | toVittorio | hm, could be, i have no opinion on that one. :) |
| 21:38.01 | toVittorio | vmware tools? |
| 21:38.03 | toVittorio | no |
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| 21:38.08 | GPLGeek | it might help |
| 21:38.28 | toVittorio | hm, how to install them in elive? |
| 21:38.42 | wasynyt | i mean screen section of xorg.conf |
| 21:39.20 | toVittorio | Section "Screen" |
| 21:39.22 | toVittorio | Identifier"Default Screen" |
| 21:39.22 | toVittorio | Device"VMware Inc [VMware SVGA II] PCI Display Adapter" |
| 21:39.22 | toVittorio | Monitor"Generic Monitor" |
| 21:39.22 | toVittorio | DefaultDepth24 |
| 21:39.22 | toVittorio | SubSection "Display" |
| 21:39.23 | toVittorio | Depth1 |
| 21:39.25 | toVittorio | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.34 | GPLGeek | what's the default depth? |
| 21:39.39 | GPLGeek | also you should not be using depth 1 |
| 21:39.45 | toVittorio | 24 |
| 21:39.46 | GPLGeek | you should be using 24 |
| 21:39.55 | GPLGeek | delete the other depths |
| 21:40.00 | toVittorio | i know. :) |
| 21:40.09 | toVittorio | it's auto generated |
| 21:40.16 | GPLGeek | hmm |
| 21:40.21 | toVittorio | i havent changed or touched depths |
| 21:40.25 | GPLGeek | ya just remove all the other depths |
| 21:40.32 | wasynyt | just edit it |
| 21:40.34 | toVittorio | wait. :) |
| 21:40.40 | GPLGeek | on Depth 24, what's the Modes line? |
| 21:40.55 | toVittorio | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.18 | toVittorio | could it be this? |
| 21:41.22 | toVittorio | Section "Monitor" |
| 21:41.23 | toVittorio | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.23 | toVittorio | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.23 | toVittorio | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.23 | toVittorio | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.23 | toVittorio | EndSectio |
| 21:41.29 | toVittorio | monitor wrongly detected? |
| 21:41.42 | toVittorio | cannot go to that high resolution? |
| 21:41.58 | wasynyt | what is your correct then |
| 21:41.59 | toVittorio | horizsync too low? |
| 21:42.08 | toVittorio | no idea |
| 21:42.32 | toVittorio | GPLGeek, can you take a look at your xorg.conf? |
| 21:42.53 | GPLGeek | one sec |
| 21:42.58 | wasynyt | get the monitors manual. or laptops |
| 21:43.23 | toVittorio | bah, that info wont be in the manual, no chance.... :) |
| 21:43.31 | toVittorio | laptop manual, of course |
| 21:44.07 | wasynyt | i mean the full one that is pdf |
| 21:44.25 | wasynyt | not the paper one |
| 21:44.46 | toVittorio | hmmmm, no idea if my laptop even has one... |
| 21:44.49 | GPLGeek | my sync and refresh are the same |
| 21:45.00 | GPLGeek | and i'm running 1440x900 |
| 21:45.17 | wasynyt | of course it has |
| 21:45.30 | toVittorio | hmm, i'll try to put it 28-60 |
| 21:45.38 | toVittorio | brb |
| 21:45.56 | hilltop | hello GPLGeek |
| 21:45.59 | wasynyt | you have similiar machines |
| 21:46.02 | GPLGeek | hi hilltop |
| 21:46.10 | keyra | hilltop: hi |
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| 21:46.27 | wasynyt | good evening hilltop |
| 21:46.34 | toVittorio | yup, that did it |
| 21:46.39 | toVittorio | :) |
| 21:46.50 | hilltop | uptime 2d 15h now. Getting some good apps going and getting more used to the system. |
| 21:46.53 | toVittorio | horizsync was too low |
| 21:46.56 | wasynyt | any succes |
| 21:47.13 | toVittorio | it's at 1440x900 now. :) |
| 21:47.22 | wasynyt | great |
| 21:47.25 | toVittorio | with HS upper limit at 60 |
| 21:47.28 | toVittorio | :) |
| 21:47.34 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:49.40 | GPLGeek | interesting |
| 21:50.12 | wasynyt | when will the next testing appear? |
| 21:50.36 | wasynyt | or is it allready |
| 21:50.46 | toVittorio | hmm, why is it important to have elive repositories first in spt sources.list? |
| 21:50.52 | toVittorio | apt |
| 21:51.00 | keyra | toVittorio: this is a FAQ question, read http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=FAQ |
| 21:51.10 | toVittorio | is the order important? |
| 21:51.34 | wasynyt | i think it tries those first |
| 21:52.20 | hilltop | how do I open obuntu.odp? I have OOo loaded. |
| 21:53.00 | wasynyt | start oo and open it there |
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| 21:53.50 | toVittorio | keyra, i asked about order of sources... |
| 21:54.06 | wasynyt | good evening bentejoy |
| 21:54.45 | wasynyt | *bentejuy |
| 21:55.10 | bentejuy | good evening wasynyt |
| 21:55.17 | bentejuy | hi all |
| 21:55.19 | bentejuy | :) |
| 21:55.21 | wasynyt | hmm keyra is bot.. |
| 21:55.35 | keyra | wasynyt: you think it ? |
| 21:55.36 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:56.02 | wasynyt | keyra yes |
| 21:56.16 | keyra | wasynyt: :) |
| 21:56.25 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 21:56.52 | toVittorio | LOL |
| 21:56.54 | toVittorio | :) |
| 21:57.13 | wasynyt | apt give keyra a cookie |
| 21:57.14 | apt | ACTION gives keyra a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
| 21:57.28 | keyra | apt: hi :) |
| 21:57.29 | apt | Many greetings, :), most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 21:57.44 | wasynyt | :P |
| 21:58.11 | wasynyt | both are bots |
| 21:58.23 | toVittorio | lol! :) |
| 21:58.31 | toVittorio | bots talking to eachother. :) |
| 21:58.37 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:00.59 | hilltop | wasynyt - this is dumb - how do I open OOo write? I have OOo calc open. Maybe OOo-writeer is not installed? I brought in OOo-calc and it looks like that is all that got here. I thought they all came in together. Hmmm Guess I gotta get OOo-writer now. |
| 22:02.17 | toVittorio | right-click desktop, office, openoffice, openoffice-writer |
| 22:02.34 | toVittorio | i just encountered another strange "feature".... :) |
| 22:02.44 | toVittorio | i couldn't move my mouse left |
| 22:02.52 | wasynyt | in new document menu button there should be text document choise |
| 22:03.02 | toVittorio | then i moved it right, and back left |
| 22:03.09 | toVittorio | nothing |
| 22:03.13 | wasynyt | huh |
| 22:03.22 | toVittorio | then i tried to be more forceful, and eventually it got left |
| 22:03.25 | wasynyt | :S |
| 22:03.28 | toVittorio | no idea! :) |
| 22:03.32 | toVittorio | it's optical mouse |
| 22:03.54 | toVittorio | it was like there was an invisible barrier on the screen that the arrow couldn't cross! |
| 22:03.56 | toVittorio | :) |
| 22:04.01 | toVittorio | LOL! |
| 22:04.01 | hilltop | looks like when I specified OOo-calc it put in a dummy for OOo-write. I'm fixing that now. :0 |
| 22:04.25 | wasynyt | hmm that sounds like crappy mouse |
| 22:04.47 | wasynyt | hilltop :D |
| 22:05.16 | toVittorio | nope, it works perfectly. :) lol |
| 22:05.39 | toVittorio | but i think that this is definitely vmware related |
| 22:05.58 | wasynyt | check if there is dirt on the sensor |
| 22:06.18 | toVittorio | nope, i tell you, the mouse is fine |
| 22:06.27 | wasynyt | could be that |
| 22:06.39 | toVittorio | i switched fullscreen off and back on, that must've triggered the event... :) |
| 22:06.43 | wasynyt | ok.. your mouse |
| 22:06.52 | toVittorio | LOL! :) |
| 22:06.57 | wasynyt | :P |
| 22:07.22 | toVittorio | i really like elive essence |
| 22:07.35 | toVittorio | view from the rainbow |
| 22:07.40 | toVittorio | veery nice |
| 22:07.47 | wasynyt | heh |
| 22:08.12 | wasynyt | yeah it is nice |
| 22:08.37 | hilltop | wasynyt - oops, I gotta get OOo-presenter now. LOL I'm nearing 500MB swap used, but I got much more. |
| 22:09.40 | wasynyt | try shutting them down with top |
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| 22:10.23 | toVittorio | just to say good night |
| 22:10.30 | toVittorio | i'm off to bed |
| 22:10.43 | toVittorio | elive is always a nice adventure... :) |
| 22:10.51 | toVittorio | i have fun every time I run it. :) |
| 22:10.55 | wasynyt | good night |
| 22:10.57 | keyra | toVittorio: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 22:11.15 | toVittorio | keyra: give toVittorio a cookie... |
| 22:11.29 | toVittorio | how did you get her to listen to you? |
| 22:11.30 | toVittorio | :) |
| 22:11.32 | toVittorio | ;) |
| 22:11.40 | wasynyt | apt give wasynyt a cookie |
| 22:11.41 | apt | ACTION gives wasynyt a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
| 22:11.51 | wasynyt | apt thanks |
| 22:11.52 | apt | wasynyt: no problem |
| 22:11.56 | toVittorio | ahaaa |
| 22:12.01 | toVittorio | LOL! :) |
| 22:12.08 | toVittorio | apt how are you? |
| 22:12.08 | apt | toVittorio: peachy |
| 22:12.14 | toVittorio | apt LOL! |
| 22:12.15 | apt | hmm... lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 22:12.16 | wasynyt | wrong bot |
| 22:12.42 | toVittorio | apt /me lol |
| 22:12.44 | toVittorio | :p |
| 22:12.52 | wasynyt | heh that is apt for you |
| 22:13.45 | toVittorio | is apt one of those smart bots that knows a joke when someone pushes it under its nose? |
| 22:13.56 | wasynyt | apt shoot toVittorio |
| 22:13.57 | apt | ACTION shoots toVittorio in the head with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 22:14.12 | wasynyt | :p |
| 22:14.13 | toVittorio | apt slap apt |
| 22:14.14 | apt | ACTION slaps apt, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:14.19 | toVittorio | lol! |
| 22:14.32 | toVittorio | apt kick apt |
| 22:14.33 | apt | ACTION kicks apt |
| 22:14.41 | toVittorio | apt sing |
| 22:14.41 | apt | ACTION sings off key Whaohwooaaoooaaah! Good bye 70s! |
| 22:15.03 | toVittorio | ;) |
| 22:15.05 | wasynyt | dont bully apt |
| 22:15.07 | toVittorio | apt comment |
| 22:15.08 | apt | i heard comment is what people say when they're innocent |
| 22:15.33 | toVittorio | i like apt |
| 22:15.39 | toVittorio | where do I get one? |
| 22:15.44 | wasynyt | apt wasynyt |
| 22:15.45 | apt | i guess wasynyt is a weird slapping |
| 22:15.54 | wasynyt | :p |
| 22:15.57 | toVittorio | lol! :) |
| 22:16.10 | mathmanp | toVittorio, apt-get apt |
| 22:16.16 | wasynyt | who told it that |
| 22:17.04 | hilltop | I'm stumpped, I can't open impress. It is not in any menu, but synaptic says it is here. What CLI should I use? Thanks |
| 22:17.14 | toVittorio | mathmanp, LOL! |
| 22:17.15 | toVittorio | :) |
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| 22:22.05 | toVittorio | awww, noo!? |
| 22:22.05 | mathmanp | hilltop, I guess you have to run via commanline or create an .eap file for it (there is a tool somewehre in elpanels e17 section) or use e16 after updating it's menu |
| 22:22.08 | toVittorio | savenetradio.org |
| 22:22.12 | toVittorio | yuck |
| 22:22.55 | wasynyt | what is that |
| 22:23.22 | hilltop | mathmanp, CLI is fine by me. Where is ooo located? |
| 22:24.59 | toVittorio | open it, it's perfectly safe |
| 22:25.07 | toVittorio | that url |
| 22:25.18 | hilltop | ah, /usr/bin/openoffice |
| 22:25.20 | mathmanp | hilltop, no idea haven't used it on elive since a long time |
| 22:25.43 | wasynyt | on a mobile phone |
| 22:26.07 | hilltop | /usr/bin/openoffice & |
| 22:26.11 | wasynyt | nope i wont |
| 22:27.11 | hilltop | mathmanp, got it opened. :D |
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| 22:28.30 | toVittorio | apt jump |
| 22:28.31 | apt | bonk bonk bonk |
| 22:28.37 | toVittorio | lol |
| 22:28.41 | toVittorio | apt dance |
| 22:28.41 | apt | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 22:28.54 | toVittorio | what is wikipedia? |
| 22:29.00 | wasynyt | good evening Thana |
| 22:29.09 | toVittorio | hello Thanatermesis |
| 22:29.23 | keyra | toVittorio: hi |
| 22:29.50 | Thanatermesis | hi toVittorio |
| 22:30.21 | toVittorio | keyra, hi |
| 22:30.31 | toVittorio | hi keyra |
| 22:30.35 | keyra | toVittorio: hi :) |
| 22:30.47 | toVittorio | keyra is a smart bot! |
| 22:30.49 | toVittorio | ;) |
| 22:31.02 | keyra | toVittorio: you think it ? |
| 22:31.26 | toVittorio | keyra, yup! |
| 22:31.27 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:31.54 | wasynyt | that was quick |
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| 22:46.07 | toVittorio | off i go |
| 22:46.13 | toVittorio | good night ppl |
| 22:46.17 | toVittorio | good night keyra |
| 22:46.22 | toVittorio | good night apt |
| 22:46.30 | toVittorio | apt good night |
| 22:46.31 | apt | Good night, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 22:46.34 | toVittorio | ;) |
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| 23:28.38 | DvineLord | what is the md5 of the working iso? |
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| 23:29.15 | DvineLord | 7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 didnt pass installation check |
| 23:29.39 | DvineLord | 0ec3bf0af0c8ed4d3ab787c6bb0634a8 passed installation check but frooze during installation |
| 23:29.59 | hilltop | hello DvineLord, what version? |
| 23:30.02 | DvineLord | 9ba75d816a5abd80fd227076407137ae i havent tried yet |
| 23:30.14 | keyra | hilltop: hi |
| 23:30.14 | DvineLord | there all Elive_1.0_Gem.iso |
| 23:30.32 | hilltop | OK, you have the correct md5sum? |
| 23:30.51 | DvineLord | those 3 checksums are correct |
| 23:31.21 | hilltop | Did you burn with check of burned copy? |
| 23:32.45 | DvineLord | i burned iso in nero and verified written data |
| 23:32.53 | hilltop | There might be a check option in the boot screen - you know, check this disk. |
| 23:33.15 | hilltop | OK so your cd must be OK. |
| 23:33.37 | DvineLord | and the iso checksums were correct |
| 23:33.52 | DvineLord | 7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 didnt pass installation checksum |
| 23:34.02 | DvineLord | 0ec3bf0af0c8ed4d3ab787c6bb0634a8 passed installation checksum but frooze during installation |
| 23:34.11 | DvineLord | 9ba75d816a5abd80fd227076407137ae i havent tried yet |
| 23:34.49 | hilltop | Hmmm. I have a simple question, (I'm in livecd) for any cream experts here. How does one do diff and get the two screens side by side? |
| 23:36.08 | hilltop | As seen here http://cream.sourceforge.net/features.html ? |
| 23:40.31 | DvineLord | have any of yall been able to actually install elive? |
| 23:42.01 | hilltop | Oh nevermind. I got the diff mode to show. :/ |
| 23:42.42 | hilltop | DvineLord, hte answer is yes, but I'm not one. ... yet. |
| 23:43.03 | hilltop | GPLGeek might know. :) |
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| 23:48.17 | DvineLord | is there anyway to install elive without booting live? |