| 00:00.13 | GPLGeek | so then they can just copy/paste things they want to add/remove and then q when they want to quit |
| 00:00.27 | keyra | GPLGeek: http://paste.elivecd.net ? |
| 00:02.01 | GPLGeek | maybe I should learn how to use the e window system for prompts |
| 00:02.24 | GPLGeek | I can make a back-end to this based on your method, and we can make a gtk, qt, and edje interface |
| 00:02.32 | GPLGeek | that way it can be used on debian too. |
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| 00:14.08 | mathmanp | roxville, GPLGeek, edje_recc it and test on elive if it works with your screen resolution: http://stashbox.org/25900/church-test.edj]http://stashbox.org/25900/church-test.edj, we'll need a fitting clock fore and background though |
| 00:16.56 | mathmanp | sorry: http://stashbox.org/25900/church-test.edj |
| 00:18.27 | roxville | mathmanp, hehe, looks cool! |
| 00:19.25 | roxville | but yes, i can see that we'd need the proper images :) |
| 00:20.32 | roxville | i gotta say, it looks great! |
| 00:20.37 | mathmanp | we do. but if it works at all screen resolutions at least the deje part is almost done :) |
| 00:20.42 | roxville | great job, mathmanp :) |
| 00:25.56 | roxville | this is a little scary...i opened the image in gimp and at the same time, i have it as BG... |
| 00:26.26 | mathmanp | hehe |
| 00:32.47 | roxville | mathmanp, http://www.thewoodshop.20m.com/graphics/clockface_shaker.jpg |
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| 00:36.14 | mathmanp | roxville, looks good, we'll have to cut it round though and my gimp skills are near nonexistent. |
| 00:40.11 | roxville | lol |
| 00:40.16 | roxville | i'm working on it |
| 00:40.41 | roxville | the biggest issue is that the clock on the pic is not totally round |
| 00:42.07 | mathmanp | hm, I guess that could be done via edje |
| 00:45.08 | mathmanp | ok, I have to go to bed now |
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| 01:47.15 | marcfp | hi |
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| 01:49.11 | marcfp | hi Pheezlewhompers |
| 01:49.13 | marcfp | :S |
| 01:49.17 | Pheezlewhompers | Hi |
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| 01:49.38 | marcfp | i want make a ciber cofe with e-17 |
| 01:49.55 | Pheezlewhompers | Sorry, I can't help you there. I'm a Linux newbie. |
| 01:50.04 | marcfp | if i find enougth games... |
| 01:50.14 | marcfp | Pheezlewhompers: i'm too :S |
| 01:51.08 | Pheezlewhompers | I actually had a random question about Linux in general... just want to make sure of something before I try it... |
| 01:51.32 | Pheezlewhompers | Can I use the same /home partition with, say, three different distros installed on the same machine? |
| 01:52.02 | marcfp | Pheezlewhompers: wich different distros ? |
| 01:52.07 | marcfp | of gnu/linux ? |
| 01:52.13 | marcfp | or about more systems ? |
| 01:52.19 | Pheezlewhompers | Yeah, GNU/Linux |
| 01:52.47 | marcfp | i'm using debian gnu/linux since6 years ago aprox ... |
| 01:53.16 | marcfp | i try about them more time in debian than anyother one |
| 01:53.36 | Pheezlewhompers | I just started getting into Linux about a year ago, and installed Elive on my laptop. Elive is the only one that works perfectly with the hardware on my laptop. |
| 01:53.51 | Pheezlewhompers | ...without having to tinker with ndiswrapper or anything. |
| 01:54.06 | keyra | Pheezlewhompers: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Ndiswrapper |
| 01:54.07 | marcfp | ohhhhhhhh |
| 01:54.28 | marcfp | keyra: is the bestest girl ;) |
| 01:54.38 | Pheezlewhompers | Thanks, keyra, but I said that Elive is the only one where everything works without having to tinker with anything. |
| 01:54.41 | Pheezlewhompers | So I don't need any help with Elive. |
| 01:54.42 | keyra | marcfp: test ? o_O in what are you thinkin' ? |
| 01:54.56 | keyra | Pheezlewhompers: hi :) |
| 01:54.59 | marcfp | keyra: about you ;) xDDDD |
| 01:55.02 | Pheezlewhompers | Keyra: Hi! :-D |
| 01:55.12 | marcfp | your pics |
| 01:55.17 | marcfp | xDDD |
| 01:55.31 | marcfp | only these those :P |
| 01:56.57 | marcfp | i leave to my bed ... |
| 01:57.05 | marcfp | here are at 4 at morning :S |
| 01:57.17 | marcfp | and i must goes to bed :) |
| 01:57.20 | Pheezlewhompers | Wow, that's late. |
| 01:57.27 | Pheezlewhompers | Good night, marcfp! |
| 01:58.11 | marcfp | see you soon properly ;) |
| 01:58.46 | Pheezlewhompers | Keyra, you still here? |
| 01:59.37 | Pheezlewhompers | I'll try to answer my own question, then, and if I'm wrong, someone can just step in and say so. |
| 01:59.59 | Pheezlewhompers | "Yes, you can use the same /home partition with multiple Linux installations, but some may not set it up for you automatically. |
| 02:00.30 | elmo45 | roxville: still using gimp? why not cinepaint? I find it much better, and less resources used. |
| 02:02.33 | roxville | Elive_user3, i'm on it as we speak :) |
| 02:03.00 | roxville | Pheezlewhompers, correct |
| 02:03.09 | Pheezlewhompers | Thanks. :-D |
| 02:03.10 | elmo45 | Pheezlewhompers: well, kindof... The /home contains settings for pretty much everything you do! If you have e17 in there now, installing the latest Elive Gem may use the same directories as older e17, but settings may be different, and conflict. |
| 02:03.27 | roxville | MOST distro do not recognize and save your /home partition |
| 02:03.44 | elmo45 | roxville: that was the problem I had, when going from .5 to .6.8, e17 didn't 'like' my changed settings. |
| 02:03.58 | elmo45 | so e17 crashed. |
| 02:03.59 | keyra | elmo45: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 02:04.08 | elmo45 | then, I just did a fresh install, and all was good. |
| 02:04.20 | elmo45 | and slowly added all my old settings |
| 02:04.26 | roxville | yeah, that is the best way |
| 02:04.52 | Pheezlewhompers | The upgrades have worked for me from 0.6.8 to 0.6.9 to Gem 1.0 |
| 02:04.59 | roxville | elmo45, i have tried cinepaint |
| 02:05.05 | Pheezlewhompers | Worked fine. The only thing I had to reset was keybindings. |
| 02:05.22 | roxville | i'm not as good at drawing as i should be |
| 02:05.33 | roxville | and cinepaint likes more drawing |
| 02:06.05 | elmo45 | it does the default stuff... circle, square, weird shapes. |
| 02:06.15 | elmo45 | I find it more useful then gimp |
| 02:06.18 | elmo45 | more options |
| 02:06.21 | elmo45 | and easier layout :P |
| 02:06.27 | roxville | that's wonderful :) |
| 02:06.51 | elmo45 | apt-get install cinepaint ;) |
| 02:07.03 | roxville | not a cinepaint-saint |
| 02:07.09 | elmo45 | lol |
| 02:07.14 | roxville | :) |
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| 02:25.41 | THEoracle_ | <-----likes gimp.....just did on cinepaint to see what all the fuss is about |
| 02:25.42 | THEoracle_ | :-) |
| 02:35.44 | roxville | lol |
| 02:35.55 | roxville | cool nick, though :) |
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| 02:43.34 | CaSiNo_KiD | :-) |
| 02:44.19 | Bryanstein | Hello Everyone |
| 02:44.33 | Pheezlewhompers | Hello |
| 02:44.39 | CaSiNo_KiD | hello Bryanstein |
| 02:44.53 | keyra | CaSiNo_KiD: hi |
| 02:44.56 | Bryanstein | CaSiNo_KiD what a name...do you win a lot ? |
| 02:45.21 | GPLGeek | somone's asking me for the md5 for the current gem iso, does anyone have it? Lol mine's on the other hard drive |
| 02:45.29 | CaSiNo_KiD | run the networks |
| 02:45.41 | Bryanstein | serious |
| 02:45.42 | CaSiNo_KiD | ;-P |
| 02:45.42 | Bryanstein | I do |
| 02:45.57 | GPLGeek | oh slow server is back up |
| 02:45.57 | GPLGeek | nm |
| 02:45.59 | Pheezlewhompers | 0ec3bf0af0c8ed4d3ab787c6bb0634a8 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso |
| 02:46.05 | Bryanstein | 7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso |
| 02:46.09 | LinuxNIT-II | LOL |
| 02:46.13 | Bryanstein | no that is wron Pheezlewhompers |
| 02:46.21 | Pheezlewhompers | Really? |
| 02:46.24 | Bryanstein | the current one is mine |
| 02:46.26 | Bryanstein | yes |
| 02:46.27 | Pheezlewhompers | ah |
| 02:46.33 | Bryanstein | well actually...maybe not |
| 02:46.34 | Pheezlewhompers | I got mine yesterday. |
| 02:46.40 | Bryanstein | depends on when you got it |
| 02:47.14 | Bryanstein | well if he hits either on then he/she knows their iso is fine |
| 02:47.19 | Pheezlewhompers | Yup. |
| 02:47.34 | roxville | CaSiNo_KiD, why this disguise? |
| 02:47.53 | CaSiNo_KiD | somebody has my normal nick |
| 02:47.55 | CaSiNo_KiD | sucks |
| 02:47.55 | Bryanstein | ROx...what's up bud |
| 02:48.13 | GPLGeek | so the one being distrubted on the .torrent is not the right elive iso |
| 02:48.13 | LinuxNIT-II | CaSiNo_KiD, is it registered? |
| 02:48.17 | GPLGeek | just to let everyone know |
| 02:48.30 | CaSiNo_KiD | yeah....and not by me |
| 02:48.31 | CaSiNo_KiD | lol |
| 02:48.31 | Bryanstein | anyone complain about the slow mirror not working yet ? |
| 02:48.41 | LinuxNIT-II | CaSiNo_KiD, oh i see |
| 02:48.43 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 02:48.46 | LinuxNIT-II | by the guy using it? |
| 02:48.47 | roxville | lol |
| 02:48.54 | CaSiNo_KiD | i don't know |
| 02:48.56 | GPLGeek | do we have anyone else that can confirm the 2 torrents for the gem iso are not legitimate elive 1.0 iso's |
| 02:48.59 | Bryanstein | are the two NIT's related? |
| 02:48.59 | roxville | <Bryanstein> ROx...what's up bud |
| 02:49.07 | roxville | i'm good bro, and you? |
| 02:49.11 | Pheezlewhompers | I grabbed mine through BitTorrent, and it looks to be legit. |
| 02:49.30 | Pheezlewhompers | Or do you mean, unpermitted? |
| 02:49.31 | roxville | <CaSiNo_KiD> somebody has my normal nick <-- are you kidding? |
| 02:49.37 | LinuxNIT-II | Bryanstein, yes two pcs |
| 02:49.44 | roxville | but don't you have it registered? |
| 02:49.44 | LinuxNIT-II | CaSiNo_KiD, what is the nick? |
| 02:49.53 | CaSiNo_KiD | THEoracle |
| 02:50.27 | Bryanstein | great...I took some pics of the location I'm Eliving up...they want WinBlowz but I'm not having it |
| 02:50.41 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:50.46 | LinuxNIT-II | CaSiNo_KiD, |
| 02:50.47 | LinuxNIT-II | -NickServ- Registered: 2 years 9 weeks 5 days (5h 5m 7s) ago |
| 02:50.47 | LinuxNIT-II | -NickServ- Last Seen: 2 years 9 weeks 5 days (4h 35m 1s) ago |
| 02:51.00 | LinuxNIT-II | talk to an admin and get it released... then you can register it |
| 02:51.04 | Bryanstein | show off |
| 02:51.08 | roxville | PrinceAMD, i just made that clocktower ready for edje'ing :) |
| 02:51.27 | roxville | i guess i'll have to wait for mathmamp... |
| 02:51.33 | GPLGeek | I'd ask everyone to check your .iso if you downloaded it from a torrent. Many people have told me that new "Elive Gem 1.0" iso's have been showing up that 1) Did not md5sum 2) Had limited functionality or 3) popped up ads and had malware |
| 02:51.34 | CaSiNo_KiD | clocktower? |
| 02:51.48 | keyra | GPLGeek: simple, md5sum yourfile.iso :P you can check also the signature of the iso with the .sig file, for are sure of this authenticity, if you like |
| 02:51.48 | roxville | LinuxNIT, how'd you do that? |
| 02:52.01 | Bryanstein | WHAT |
| 02:52.03 | roxville | LinuxNIT-II, how'd ya do that? |
| 02:52.06 | Bryanstein | ads |
| 02:52.18 | LinuxNIT-II | do what? |
| 02:52.22 | LinuxNIT-II | find the info on the nick? |
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| 02:53.02 | Pheezlewhompers | Well, I downloaded mine from here: |
| 02:53.02 | Pheezlewhompers | http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=4282 |
| 02:53.25 | LinuxNIT-II | roxville, ? |
| 02:53.45 | roxville | http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4893/clocktowerehp1.jpg |
| 02:53.54 | roxville | CaSiNo_KiD, there |
| 02:54.15 | roxville | LinuxNIT-II, to get it to show when you rgistered |
| 02:54.24 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.28 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.16 | CaSiNo_KiD | looks good.....logo in the clock would be kewl..... |
| 02:55.39 | roxville | yeah...i resisted that |
| 02:55.52 | CaSiNo_KiD | lol |
| 02:56.10 | Pheezlewhompers | I made a crappy Elive wallpaper, too. It's based on a "Powered By Free Software" wallpaper I saw a long time ago. It's very easy GIMP stuff, but in case anyone's interested: |
| 02:56.10 | Pheezlewhompers | http://www.sonictempest.com/bats/images/elivefreesoftware.png |
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| 02:59.05 | roxville | <LinuxNIT-II> -NickServ- Registered: 2 years 9 weeks 5 days (5h 5m 7s) ago |
| 02:59.14 | LinuxNIT-II | ? |
| 02:59.20 | roxville | -NickServ- Registered: 2 years 25 weeks 2 days (15h 44m 52s) ago |
| 03:02.34 | GPLGeek | Ok guys, listen up, if your .iso doesn't md5 you really need to get that fixed before we can help you on anything else, I just downloaded one of the "wrong" versions to see what it was all about and it did not work correctly. the md5 should match 7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso |
| 03:04.05 | LinuxNIT-II | GPLGeek, should we tell apt the md5 so its readily available ? |
| 03:04.15 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 03:04.33 | GPLGeek | apt md5 is '7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso' |
| 03:04.54 | GPLGeek | apt forget md5 |
| 03:05.19 | GPLGeek | apt md5 is '7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso' |
| 03:05.22 | LinuxNIT-II | gem-md5 |
| 03:05.27 | GPLGeek | apt no md5 |
| 03:05.58 | GPLGeek | apt gem-md5 is '7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso' |
| 03:05.59 | apt | okay, GPLGeek |
| 03:07.25 | Bryanstein | so it's what I said it was Pheezlewhompers |
| 03:08.27 | *** topic/#elive by GPLGeek -> Welcome to Elive, feel free to ask questions || MacBook users please join #elivemac ||::::::::::::::: Elive Gem is OUT :::::::::::::::::|| Some unofficial torrents serving up bad or malicious versions of elive, check your md5s, 7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso |
| 03:08.28 | Pheezlewhompers | Yup, I was wrong. I guess that means my copy of Gem isn't legit? |
| 03:08.44 | GPLGeek | well there are a few others too |
| 03:08.51 | GPLGeek | that are horrid |
| 03:09.09 | Bryanstein | Has anyone seen it with their own eyes? |
| 03:09.10 | GPLGeek | there's one that defaults icewaesel to go to mofunzone.com flash games, and has links to a bunch of porn and ad sites |
| 03:09.13 | GPLGeek | I have |
| 03:09.18 | Bryanstein | Man |
| 03:09.33 | GPLGeek | Pheezlewhompers, I think your version might just be a non-final version of gem, not sure though |
| 03:09.50 | GPLGeek | some people with your md5 said that elpanel was not working and they had problems installing |
| 03:10.26 | Pheezlewhompers | I haven't encountered any problems yet. If I do, I'll certainly let you guys know. Hopefully I'll be able to grab a legit copy before I encounter any problems, though. |
| 03:10.40 | keyra | Pheezlewhompers: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 03:11.04 | GPLGeek | if it doesn't md5 then they could have put a keylogger, credit card stealer, adware, etc in it... |
| 03:11.30 | GPLGeek | after all the system integrity is only as good as the media it was installed from |
| 03:12.08 | Pheezlewhompers | Well, do you know of any torrents where I could download an authentic version? |
| 03:19.57 | Pheezlewhompers | I'm actually wondering why I haven't seen Gem announced on distrowatch.com. |
| 03:26.40 | roxville | Pheezlewhompers, the distrowatch guy put it in his new releases without asking thana |
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| 03:27.12 | Pheezlewhompers | Ah |
| 03:27.22 | Pheezlewhompers | So Thana had it pulled? |
| 03:27.35 | roxville | no, just never announced |
| 03:27.54 | roxville | he never put in a release note coz we had issues with the iso |
| 03:28.04 | Pheezlewhompers | Oh, okay. |
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| 03:45.38 | roxville | hola quidam- :) |
| 03:45.46 | roxville | que es eso? |
| 03:45.53 | keyra | roxville: que tal ? |
| 03:45.56 | quidam- | roxville, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:46.00 | quidam- | roxville, como te va? |
| 03:46.06 | roxville | :) |
| 03:46.20 | roxville | muy bien, gracias. et tu? |
| 03:46.33 | quidam- | roxville, MUY BIEN! |
| 03:46.34 | keyra | roxville: yo perfecta :) |
| 03:46.44 | roxville | gracias keyra :) |
| 03:46.50 | felix | roxville: estás mezclando :) |
| 03:46.52 | roxville | oh... not me... |
| 03:46.59 | felix | roxville: "Gracias, y tu?" |
| 03:47.06 | roxville | jeje |
| 03:47.10 | felix | roxville: or in french "Merci, et toi?" |
| 03:47.30 | roxville | felix, ok, thx :) |
| 03:47.44 | roxville | i was just saying hi to quidam- that's all... |
| 03:47.44 | keyra | roxville: felix, daddy... :) |
| 03:48.03 | roxville | i know keyra ...i know... |
| 03:48.08 | quidam- | roxville, did you know where is Thana? |
| 03:48.17 | roxville | yes i do |
| 03:48.22 | roxville | he's is barcelona |
| 03:48.31 | roxville | he was on earlier today |
| 03:48.41 | roxville | but... he's got a new girl friend... |
| 03:48.47 | roxville | need i say more? |
| 03:48.50 | felix | roxville: how long he has been there? |
| 03:49.08 | roxville | felix, about a month now |
| 03:54.58 | roxville | quidam-, how are things in your country? |
| 03:55.06 | roxville | i was abit worried about you |
| 03:56.33 | felix | roxville: where is quidam- from? |
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| 04:00.45 | elmo45 | GPLGeek: there is a fraudulent Elive Gem going around?!?!?!? |
| 04:01.09 | elmo45 | with bad md5? That is crazy. |
| 04:01.40 | roxville | it is crazy |
| 04:01.57 | roxville | some schmuck |
| 04:02.25 | elmo45 | nice :/ |
| 04:02.40 | elmo45 | maybe it is someone from another distro! |
| 04:02.50 | elmo45 | will be difficult to trace!! |
| 04:02.52 | roxville | elbuntu... |
| 04:02.58 | elmo45 | ya, maybe |
| 04:03.05 | elmo45 | ebuntu |
| 04:03.50 | elmo45 | have you seen their 'edubuntu' ? It sucks! There are NO education apps in it! Not even Octave! Nothing for kids, nothing for highschool, nothing educational. Just a crock. |
| 04:04.47 | roxville | that's odd... a buddy of mine in sweden works at a school... he just tried it and said it was loaded with good apps |
| 04:05.45 | elmo45 | well, since Dec, they must have added a bunch, after I sent an email to the dev about what apps 'should' be involved ;) |
| 04:06.47 | roxville | really? |
| 04:07.04 | roxville | the thing is... they can't seem to do anything |
| 04:07.18 | roxville | that's why they have asked thana so many times |
| 04:07.27 | roxville | so they could shine from his light |
| 04:09.01 | roxville | i saw the nubuntu guys come to #dsslive (elive is based on dsslive) and nomed WALKED them through the steps... even i understood what he was saying! |
| 04:09.04 | roxville | they didn't |
| 04:20.06 | quidam- | felix, im from Venezuela |
| 04:20.07 | keyra | quidam-: felix, daddy... :) |
| 04:20.12 | quidam- | roxville, we are happy on my country ;-) |
| 04:20.49 | quidam- | roxville, we are the country of a soccer cup!, "Copa America" :-D |
| 04:21.06 | roxville | that's awesome! |
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| 04:34.35 | roxville | ok guys, i gotta get in bed |
| 04:34.41 | roxville | good night :) |
| 04:35.06 | Bryanstein | Good night roxville...I got rid of that monster underneath your bed too |
| 04:35.18 | roxville | thanks :) |
| 04:35.26 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 04:35.29 | roxville | err... that's my wife! |
| 04:35.34 | Bryanstein | hahahahahahahahah |
| 04:35.39 | Bryanstein | LOL |
| 04:35.43 | roxville | she sleeps under the bed now... back prob |
| 04:35.47 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 04:35.53 | roxville | :D |
| 04:36.00 | Bryanstein | that is hilarious |
| 04:36.09 | roxville | one more thing... |
| 04:36.45 | roxville | last night a guy asked if it was possible to speed up the fx in elve |
| 04:36.53 | roxville | transitions and stuff |
| 04:37.27 | roxville | "I mean, they're very pleasant, but too long for my taste" |
| 04:37.36 | NeverSummer | can elive find me a girlfriend? |
| 04:37.52 | roxville | so i told him: "I hope you will never say that to a woman" |
| 04:38.22 | Bryanstein | WHy do I find that soo funny,hahahahahah |
| 04:38.32 | Bryanstein | I'm getting an ab workout |
| 04:38.54 | Bryanstein | Yes...it it me...the voice of elive: I can find you a girlfriend |
| 04:38.54 | roxville | my wife laughed long and hard about it, too |
| 04:39.01 | NeverSummer | LOL |
| 04:39.15 | Bryanstein | Rox you are crazy |
| 04:39.18 | NeverSummer | does your wife look over your shoulder while on IRC? |
| 04:39.27 | roxville | ok, have a good shower... think about long boobs |
| 04:39.33 | NeverSummer | dont tell me she is logged in too, that would scare me |
| 04:39.45 | roxville | nah, i only do linux irc |
| 04:39.59 | Bryanstein | lol @ long boobs |
| 04:40.06 | roxville | we stopped for a few years after i came here |
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| 04:40.41 | roxville | i didn't start until i started using elive |
| 04:40.44 | roxville | ok |
| 04:40.46 | roxville | night |
| 04:40.47 | elmo45 | ok |
| 04:40.49 | elmo45 | night |
| 04:40.52 | roxville | lol |
| 04:41.24 | elmo45 | aawww, how adorable |
| 04:41.29 | elmo45 | :/ |
| 04:41.31 | elmo45 | O_o |
| 04:41.36 | roxville | :) |
| 04:41.47 | NeverSummer | you two have lost it :p |
| 04:42.34 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah they have |
| 04:42.42 | LinuxNIT-II | but we humor them |
| 04:43.22 | NeverSummer | anyone notice lately that Linux Mint is making a stab at e17 |
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| 04:44.10 | LinuxNIT-II | never used it |
| 04:44.20 | NeverSummer | ditto |
| 04:44.57 | NeverSummer | i still need to install elive |
| 04:45.09 | LinuxNIT-II | :o |
| 04:45.12 | NeverSummer | the only distro ive used in the last 3 years is gentoo |
| 04:45.18 | NeverSummer | w/flux |
| 04:45.19 | LinuxNIT-II | i see |
| 04:45.44 | NeverSummer | its hard to step down and say "I will no longer be anal about my distro" |
| 04:46.06 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 04:47.09 | NeverSummer | elive seems lightweight to start with, which is nice |
| 04:47.12 | LinuxNIT-II | well welcome to elive |
| 04:47.26 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 04:47.44 | NeverSummer | its compiled 386? correct? |
| 04:47.54 | LinuxNIT-II | i believe so |
| 04:49.00 | NeverSummer | how long you been using elive |
| 04:49.09 | LinuxNIT-II | hmmm |
| 04:49.16 | NeverSummer | lol |
| 04:49.24 | LinuxNIT-II | since just before 0.4 came out |
| 04:49.26 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 04:49.30 | LinuxNIT-II | not sure how long that is |
| 04:50.22 | NeverSummer | feb '06 according to distrowatch |
| 04:50.32 | LinuxNIT-II | there ya go |
| 04:52.29 | NeverSummer | what boot manager does elive use? |
| 04:52.42 | LinuxNIT-II | grub |
| 04:53.46 | NeverSummer | you use it dual boot? |
| 04:54.01 | LinuxNIT-II | i do.. i have two installs of it |
| 04:54.04 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 04:54.07 | NeverSummer | LOL |
| 04:54.11 | LinuxNIT-II | one for use one for testing |
| 04:54.23 | NeverSummer | no windoze? |
| 04:54.33 | LinuxNIT-II | win what? |
| 04:54.40 | NeverSummer | good question |
| 04:54.48 | LinuxNIT-II | actually i do now |
| 04:54.58 | LinuxNIT-II | i was windows free for over a year |
| 04:55.15 | LinuxNIT-II | but my new mp3 player dosnet show up in linux for some odd reason |
| 04:55.19 | LinuxNIT-II | :( |
| 04:55.40 | NeverSummer | it doesnt detect it like a standard usb drive? |
| 04:55.45 | LinuxNIT-II | nope |
| 04:55.48 | LinuxNIT-II | it should though |
| 04:55.49 | NeverSummer | damn |
| 04:56.00 | NeverSummer | does it have a removable sd-card etc? |
| 04:56.03 | LinuxNIT-II | most peoples are detected |
| 04:56.08 | LinuxNIT-II | no it has an hd |
| 04:56.11 | NeverSummer | ughh |
| 04:56.58 | LinuxNIT-II | dmesg says it had a usb storage device plugged in but fdisk dosent see it and i dont see it in /dev |
| 04:58.02 | NeverSummer | im sure you checked the deb, and ubuntu forums already? |
| 04:58.12 | LinuxNIT-II | i googled |
| 04:58.37 | LinuxNIT-II | i tried 4 different distros (live mode) |
| 04:58.55 | NeverSummer | and? |
| 04:59.00 | LinuxNIT-II | none saw it |
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| 04:59.04 | LinuxNIT-II | same result on all |
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| 04:59.31 | NeverSummer | what device is it? |
| 05:00.18 | LinuxNIT-II | make/model number? |
| 05:00.31 | NeverSummer | yeah in general |
| 05:00.35 | NeverSummer | what mp3 player is it |
| 05:01.49 | LinuxNIT-II | phillips hdd6330 |
| 05:02.38 | LinuxNIT-II | *philips |
| 05:12.21 | NeverSummer | i cant find much |
| 05:12.33 | NeverSummer | seems like its common with all philips mp3 players |
| 05:12.42 | NeverSummer | in general looks like no kernel support |
| 05:13.22 | LinuxNIT-II | my initial google support showed some apps that supported syncing them |
| 05:13.29 | LinuxNIT-II | so i figured they were supported well |
| 05:13.33 | LinuxNIT-II | i guess i was wrong |
| 05:13.36 | LinuxNIT-II | :-/ |
| 05:14.01 | NeverSummer | still under return period? :p |
| 05:14.10 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 05:14.14 | LinuxNIT-II | nah i bought it used |
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| 05:16.11 | LinuxNIT-II | but its not a big deal... im going to have to have windows installed pretty soon anyway to run stock market program |
| 05:18.03 | NeverSummer | for analysis or game? |
| 05:19.06 | LinuxNIT-II | the stock market? |
| 05:19.18 | LinuxNIT-II | analysis |
| 05:19.53 | NeverSummer | technical or funamental? |
| 05:20.46 | LinuxNIT-II | technical i guess |
| 05:21.03 | LinuxNIT-II | im required to use a certain app |
| 05:21.17 | NeverSummer | for work? |
| 05:21.25 | LinuxNIT-II | no |
| 05:24.20 | NeverSummer | I do a alot of market analysis as a hobby |
| 05:24.22 | LinuxNIT-II | its part of a class im taking... the rules say i use a certain program... i intend to follow the rules |
| 05:24.26 | LinuxNIT-II | oh yeah |
| 05:24.52 | NeverSummer | i have a comp science degree and business degree |
| 05:24.56 | NeverSummer | i have no finance option |
| 05:25.03 | NeverSummer | but i took finance classes for fun |
| 05:25.04 | NeverSummer | lol |
| 05:25.09 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 05:25.39 | NeverSummer | what program they making you use? |
| 05:26.04 | LinuxNIT-II | qcharts |
| 05:27.02 | NeverSummer | holy sheet that is expensive |
| 05:27.14 | NeverSummer | i guess if you were a day trader would be handy |
| 05:32.49 | LinuxNIT-II | do you do any trading? |
| 05:35.00 | NeverSummer | no $$$ |
| 05:35.11 | NeverSummer | i finished school a year ago |
| 05:35.19 | NeverSummer | just getting my life in gear |
| 05:35.25 | NeverSummer | but i would rather be ready to invest |
| 05:35.33 | LinuxNIT-II | ah |
| 05:35.36 | NeverSummer | than "learn" while using real money |
| 05:36.04 | NeverSummer | I dont like investing in mutual funds |
| 05:36.27 | NeverSummer | 'cause i dont like the idea of someone else managing the pseudo portfolio |
| 05:37.04 | NeverSummer | so if i plan on ivesting myself how i want |
| 05:37.15 | NeverSummer | i need a decent bankroll to start with |
| 05:37.17 | NeverSummer | ~10k |
| 05:37.17 | apt | hmm... 10k is what I am looking for. |
| 05:37.30 | NeverSummer | 10k is good |
| 05:37.46 | NeverSummer | get you around 10 investments, get some diversity, and trading costs wont kill you too bad |
| 05:38.58 | NeverSummer | i definitely cant pull 10k out of a hat, gotta sell my fancy car, cut bills and hobbies , etc |
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| 05:49.31 | Begasus | g'morning peeps |
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| 06:09.47 | GPLGeek | hi Begasus |
| 06:10.02 | Begasus | hi GPLGeek |
| 06:10.43 | GPLGeek | NEWS: Some assholes are mounting the iso, inserting malware/ads/or just breaking the iso, recompressing it and throwing it out on bit torrent, and other servers, including rapidshare. |
| 06:11.00 | GPLGeek | Check the MD5 of your iso to match the one in the MOTD for gem 1.0 |
| 06:11.02 | Begasus | jikes |
| 06:11.06 | GPLGeek | if it does not match you may be a victem |
| 06:11.28 | GPLGeek | if you downloaded it from elive's system you are fine. |
| 06:11.51 | GPLGeek | I have not seen one torrent that actually has a good copy of elive |
| 06:12.26 | Begasus | that's bad!! |
| 06:18.16 | GPLGeek | it's hit many people |
| 06:19.17 | GPLGeek | 141 on one torrent 393 on another 1120 downloads from another... I've had 2 taken down, the one with 141 downloads is not taken down yet |
| 06:20.11 | Begasus | is it reported on the website already? |
| 06:20.51 | GPLGeek | by the way I had to fire off emails to many places that were testing INCORRECT versions of elive and actually making bad reviews because of them |
| 06:21.31 | GPLGeek | I've taken all of the appropriate actions, if you see any more of these pop up email me at gplgeek at gmail dot com |
| 06:24.15 | Begasus | I'll put a post up on BeBUG in a short while to inform users also .... |
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| 09:40.13 | Elive_user74 | hey anyone got a hint how to uninstall thing on elive? |
| 09:42.08 | elmo45 | uninstall? |
| 09:42.15 | elmo45 | what do you want to remove? |
| 09:42.21 | elmo45 | 'thing' ;) |
| 09:42.24 | Elive_user74 | truecrypt |
| 09:42.24 | wasynyt | synaptic |
| 09:42.41 | elmo45 | ya, either synaptic, or apt-get remove from console |
| 09:43.30 | Elive_user74 | i installed it from downloaded sources, so apt-get work work, right |
| 09:43.55 | wasynyt | .deb file ? |
| 09:44.01 | wasynyt | or thru apt-get ? |
| 09:44.40 | wasynyt | or was it a tar.gz or somiliar package |
| 09:44.48 | wasynyt | *similiar |
| 09:45.30 | Elive_user74 | tar.gz |
| 09:45.34 | wasynyt | :S |
| 09:45.40 | Elive_user74 | then using install.sh |
| 09:45.50 | wasynyt | sorry no easy help for you :S |
| 09:45.55 | Elive_user74 | ok thx |
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| 09:46.22 | wasynyt | Begas, check if you can help Elive_user74 |
| 09:49.11 | Elive_user74 | i installed truecrypt form tar.gz, but had wrong kernel sources installed, now it doesnt work, so i wanna uninstall... but dont know how |
| 09:49.25 | keyra | Elive_user74: budy, you don't know how to install a kernel ? check http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 09:49.49 | Elive_user74 | no, the kernel is not the problem |
| 09:50.02 | Elive_user74 | i dont know how to uninstall truecrypt now |
| 09:50.09 | Thanatermesis | try make uninstall |
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| 09:51.14 | Elive_user74 | no rule to create uninstall |
| 09:51.56 | Elive_user74 | i think its a bad idea to exchange kernel sources and reinstall, without uninstalling before, isnt it? |
| 09:52.14 | Elive_user74 | afraid to make it worse |
| 09:59.38 | Thanatermesis | no, you can install sources now ok |
| 09:59.48 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache search 2.6.18-elive image |
| 10:02.39 | Elive_user74 | i just used apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18-elive |
| 10:04.46 | Thanatermesis | remove it and install the headers better |
| 10:05.06 | Thanatermesis | and make a link of the /usr/src/linux-headers.... to /usr/src/linux |
| 10:05.34 | Thanatermesis | the sources don't contains the needed things for build modules... if you don't use it for build your own kernel first |
| 10:07.29 | Elive_user74 | ok i did apt-cache search 2.6.18-elive image |
| 10:07.41 | Elive_user74 | what do i do whith the informations.. |
| 10:10.48 | Elive_user74 | ok, i did apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.18-elive |
| 10:12.33 | Elive_user74 | do i have to unpack them or thing, and how do i make a link? ln? |
| 10:16.01 | Elive_user74 | ln doesnt work |
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| 10:23.25 | FreeEagle | Hi all |
| 10:23.31 | FreeEagle | Thanatermesis, ping! |
| 10:23.35 | Elive_user74 | hi |
| 10:24.00 | Elive_user74 | can you help me uninstalling truecrypt, eagle? |
| 10:24.05 | Elive_user74 | :D |
| 10:24.18 | FreeEagle | humm |
| 10:24.21 | FreeEagle | wait let me see |
| 10:24.31 | FreeEagle | you can go to the Elivepanel |
| 10:24.42 | Elive_user74 | i installed it from a tar.gz |
| 10:25.00 | FreeEagle | hummm |
| 10:25.17 | FreeEagle | then i do not know |
| 10:25.27 | Elive_user74 | ok ,thx |
| 10:25.36 | FreeEagle | i think tar.gz its not easy to uninstall then again |
| 10:25.48 | Elive_user74 | argh |
| 10:26.16 | FreeEagle | i think you have to delete the bin file of it and all the contents of the director< |
| 10:26.23 | FreeEagle | directory and |
| 10:27.19 | FreeEagle | i am also new in Linux Life |
| 10:28.00 | Elive_user74 | hmm, ok, theres no bin file and strange things... |
| 10:28.30 | FreeEagle | then i think just deleting the file will be enough |
| 10:28.39 | FreeEagle | and all its contents |
| 10:30.09 | Elive_user74 | when i try to "locate" truecrypt its only found where i unpacked the tar.gz... but that cant be true |
| 10:31.04 | FreeEagle | why? |
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| 10:32.53 | Elive_user74 | because when i run truecrypt it says "insmod: error inserting '/usr/share/truecrypt/kernel/truecrypt-2.6.18.ko': -1 Invalid module format" so there must be some truecrypt stuff, where locate doesnt tell me |
| 10:33.11 | mathmanp | Elive_user74, if you used a source tarball try make uninstall, otherwise look in the structure of the tarball via a package tool and you'll have to remove the corresponding files on your filesystem manually |
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| 10:33.22 | bech | hello |
| 10:33.37 | keyra | bech: hi |
| 10:33.39 | Elive_user74 | good idea thx |
| 10:33.49 | elmo45 | Thanatermesis: :) Nice to see you again |
| 10:34.13 | FreeEagle | hi bech |
| 10:34.19 | FreeEagle | hi elmo40 |
| 10:35.59 | Elive_user74 | hmm.. its a strange tarball. does not seem to refer to a linux filesystem |
| 10:36.28 | elmo40 | Elive_user74: removing something isn't all that difficult. Executables are only located in (only) 2 locations. |
| 10:36.41 | elmo40 | FreeEagle: morning |
| 10:37.19 | elmo40 | Elive_user74: to use locate, you need to run: updatedb |
| 10:37.29 | elmo40 | allow it to scan your computer, then locate again |
| 10:37.36 | Elive_user74 | the problem is: i had some wrong sources installed when i installed truecrypt, when i now try to reinstall it just skips the step... |
| 10:37.48 | Elive_user74 | ok |
| 10:37.58 | elmo40 | how are you trying to reinstall? |
| 10:38.04 | Elive_user74 | instal..sh |
| 10:38.08 | elmo40 | doing ./configure |
| 10:38.09 | elmo40 | oh |
| 10:38.18 | Elive_user74 | theres no configure |
| 10:38.47 | elmo40 | and what is truecrypt for? file encryption, communication encryption? |
| 10:38.57 | Elive_user74 | file ecryption |
| 10:39.16 | elmo40 | I see it, truecrypt.org |
| 10:40.20 | FreeEagle | elmo40, morning, sorry i was reading in the net so i couldn't answer fastly |
| 10:40.22 | elmo40 | lol, what is the point of encrypting if you can not decrypt?? |
| 10:40.22 | elmo40 | "Please note that TrueCrypt does not support in-place decryption. If you need to remove encryption (e.g., if you no longer need encryption), please follow these steps: 1 - 4" |
| 10:40.26 | Elive_user74 | wow, when i know use locate... it wont stop... i could spend days on removing it all manually |
| 10:41.11 | Elive_user74 | it works like a container. |
| 10:41.24 | Elive_user74 | you can move your stuf out of the container |
| 10:41.25 | elmo40 | Elive_user74: nah, rm -rd /*truecrypt* (though don't quote me on this!! Who knows regex very well) |
| 10:41.34 | mathmanp | hehe, sounds new system nstall is easier |
| 10:41.46 | elmo40 | mathmanp: come on, it is only an app! |
| 10:41.57 | elmo40 | doesn't encrypt unless you tell it to. |
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| 10:43.12 | Elive_user74 | when the container is closed... theres no chance to get the data.. |
| 10:43.33 | Elive_user74 | rm -rd /*truecrypt* gives file or directory not found |
| 10:43.44 | elmo40 | I am beginning to think net neutrality is a joke! I can't get to half of the sites I have been to in the past! Well, not with any decent speed anymore! |
| 10:44.04 | elmo40 | Elive_user74: well, whatever the name is ;) |
| 10:44.16 | Elive_user74 | it IS truecrypt |
| 10:44.27 | elmo40 | Elive_user74: nah, rm -rd /etc/bin/*truecrypt* |
| 10:44.28 | Elive_user74 | or withou ** |
| 10:44.33 | Elive_user74 | ? |
| 10:44.43 | elmo40 | well, where are they all located? |
| 10:44.46 | elmo40 | usr/bin? |
| 10:45.10 | elmo40 | rm -rd /*/*/*truecrypt* |
| 10:45.11 | elmo40 | lol |
| 10:45.16 | elmo40 | that *should* work? :/ |
| 10:46.29 | FreeEagle | kay friends if you see Thanatermesis then send him my greetings and tell him the Update work very good :) |
| 10:47.25 | Elive_user74 | rm -rd /*/*/*truecrypt* produced no error but i still locate a lot of truecrypt |
| 10:47.52 | FreeEagle | bye bye all |
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| 10:51.48 | Elive_user74 | yehaah! |
| 10:52.04 | elmo40 | Elive_user74: you will still 'locate' then |
| 10:52.06 | elmo40 | *them |
| 10:52.07 | Elive_user74 | im at my starting point, without truecrypt |
| 10:52.21 | Elive_user74 | thats what i call progress |
| 10:52.22 | elmo40 | since locate is static, needs to be 'refreshed' with updatedb |
| 10:52.23 | Elive_user74 | :D |
| 10:52.27 | elmo40 | it reads a data file ;) |
| 10:52.35 | Elive_user74 | no, really thats great for now |
| 10:53.18 | Elive_user74 | now, the installation wants to know the directory of my kernel sources |
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| 10:53.41 | elmo40 | Elive_user74: you understand how 'locate' works? Unlike the 'find' command, locate uses a database file to quickly access items |
| 10:53.58 | Elive_user74 | i installed the headers and propably linked it to /usr/src/linux |
| 10:53.59 | elmo40 | umm, unless you compiled your own, I don't think Elive comes with one |
| 10:54.10 | elmo40 | waste of space, really ;) |
| 10:54.11 | Elive_user74 | yeah i understand and used updatedb... |
| 10:55.01 | Elive_user74 | so i have to COMPILE my own, when it just asks for the sources? |
| 11:01.36 | SuperpeZ | what's the default font and size ? |
| 11:02.19 | SuperpeZ | I changed it, but I don't know how to restore to default... |
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| 11:05.35 | Elive_user74 | truecrypt asks me for directory of the sources, i have the headers now, how do i create the sources? |
| 11:18.16 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user74, ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers.... /usr/src/linux |
| 11:18.35 | Elive_user74 | yeah i used that |
| 11:19.05 | Elive_user74 | but truecrypt doesnt want it as sources |
| 11:19.29 | Thanatermesis | keyra where is the howto about the kernel compile, modules building, and stuff ? |
| 11:19.43 | keyra | Thanatermesis: budy, you don't know how to compile your own kernel ? check http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 11:20.04 | Elive_user74 | its a dead link |
| 11:20.35 | Elive_user74 | anyway do i really have to COMPILE a kernel to have the sources? |
| 11:20.45 | Thanatermesis | http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 11:20.49 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 11:21.53 | Elive_user74 | i just try it with apt-getting the sources... its not chanceless, right? |
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| 11:22.28 | Thanatermesis | sources no, headers, is what you need |
| 11:22.47 | Elive_user74 | but it asks for the sources |
| 11:23.06 | Elive_user74 | the headers dont satisfy it |
| 11:23.14 | Thanatermesis | it need headers |
| 11:23.18 | Thanatermesis | make a look to the howto |
| 11:23.30 | Elive_user74 | and now with the sources it at least starts working |
| 11:23.48 | Elive_user74 | the truecrypt howto? |
| 11:24.40 | Thanatermesis | http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 11:24.42 | Thanatermesis | that |
| 11:24.53 | Thanatermesis | apt, kernel headers |
| 11:25.07 | apt | Kernel headers can be found in the matching version directory at http://handhelds.org/feeds/ |
| 11:25.07 | Elive_user74 | but i have them |
| 11:25.07 | Thanatermesis | apt, linux headers |
| 11:25.20 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user74, sources is not useful for ou, you need headers |
| 11:34.12 | Elive_user74 | http://handhelds.org/feeds/ has just 2.6 as a directory... with a lot of files in it. no clue there are headers for 2.6.18... |
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| 11:43.19 | Elive_user74 | is there a difference between linux-headers and kernel-headers? |
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| 12:03.56 | Elive_Newuser | Hi, can soewone help me with a problem I have__ |
| 12:04.10 | keyra | Elive_Newuser: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 12:04.26 | Elive_Newuser | ok |
| 12:05.06 | Elive_Newuser | i am using elive from the CD and I dont know how to install it in my HD but I have a partittion perepared for it |
| 12:05.31 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user74, no |
| 12:05.37 | Thanatermesis | Elive_Newuser, see the last icon of your dock |
| 12:06.07 | Elive_user74 | the control panel |
| 12:06.22 | Elive_user74 | oh thats not me.. |
| 12:06.23 | Elive_Newuser | Oh ok ;D thanks a lot now i see it |
| 12:06.47 | Elive_user74 | then i should have alle the headers |
| 12:10.46 | Elive_user74 | and now i have to COMPILE my own kernel?? |
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| 12:52.34 | kevin_ | hi |
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| 13:02.17 | kevin_ | ha salut Thanatermesis |
| 13:02.28 | kevin_ | je venais de t'envoyer un mail ^^ |
| 13:02.47 | kevin_ | hi crm__ |
| 13:02.56 | crm__ | aims a .22 200 at his jaw |
| 13:10.15 | Thanatermesis | merci kevin_ :) je vais implementer ça de suite... |
| 13:10.36 | kevin_ | de rien :) |
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| 13:26.55 | Elive_NewUser | how can I change my resolution for a higher one?? I can only choose between 800x600 and 640x480 |
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| 13:30.13 | Elive_NewUser | Hello, Âżhow can I change my resolution for a higher one?? I can only choose between 800x600 and 640x480? |
| 13:30.30 | Elive_NewUser | but ibn windows I can use a higher one |
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| 13:32.46 | Elive_user67 | hello can anyone help me with this |
| 13:33.00 | keyra | Elive_user67: hi |
| 13:33.10 | kevin_ | hi Elive_user3 |
| 13:33.12 | kevin_ | erf |
| 13:33.29 | Elive_user67 | I can only use a 800x600 resolution but in windows i can use a higher one |
| 13:33.44 | kevin_ | edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 13:33.45 | Elive_user67 | I would likke to use a higher one with linux please |
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| 13:35.31 | Elive_user67 | ok if someone can help me told me please I will be waiting |
| 13:35.52 | kevin_ | <kevin_> edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 13:35.56 | Bryanstein | Hello everyone...brb |
| 13:36.09 | kevin_ | in the screen section, you have screen resolutions |
| 13:36.20 | kevin_ | hi Bryanstein |
| 13:42.00 | Bryanstein | roxville, did you try that yet lol ? |
| 13:42.25 | roxville | i just started... i woke up 2 minutes ago |
| 13:42.48 | roxville | if you got stuff to do...i can continue another time |
| 13:42.53 | Bryanstein | lol...I thought I gave you implicit instructions |
| 13:42.59 | Bryanstein | Yawn and check email |
| 13:43.08 | roxville | ETA right now...1:40 |
| 13:43.25 | Bryanstein | lol...how much stuff |
| 13:43.28 | Bryanstein | ? |
| 13:43.38 | wasynyt | good afternoon everyone |
| 13:43.51 | roxville | on the firsat one |
| 13:43.57 | roxville | hi wasynyt :) |
| 13:44.16 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:44.22 | wasynyt | how are you doing roxville |
| 13:45.55 | roxville | i just woke up, so...i really don't know yet... :) |
| 13:46.12 | wasynyt | heh.. i hope you will have a nice day coming |
| 13:47.14 | roxville | it hink so |
| 13:47.21 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:47.22 | roxville | wasynyt, when's your lasy day? |
| 13:47.28 | roxville | last |
| 13:47.31 | Bryanstein | brb...burning food in the kitchen...I've regressed to caveman status... I burn all my food on purpose now |
| 13:47.35 | wasynyt | ? lasy day ? |
| 13:47.48 | roxville | LOOOL |
| 13:47.49 | wasynyt | ahh next week friday |
| 13:47.55 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 13:47.59 | roxville | ok, cool :) |
| 13:48.03 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 13:48.06 | roxville | brb too |
| 13:48.14 | wasynyt | k |
| 13:48.27 | mathmanp | roxville, good morning (afternoon) did you make a clock bg for the church ? |
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| 13:51.19 | roxville | mathmanp, you bet i did! |
| 13:51.22 | roxville | :) |
| 13:51.59 | mathmanp | roxville, cool, and I found out how to play nice with different resolutions. |
| 13:52.29 | roxville | cool |
| 13:52.45 | roxville | now e is very good at resizing stuff nicely |
| 13:52.52 | roxville | what res would you like it in? |
| 13:52.59 | keyra | roxville: :) |
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| 13:54.46 | mathmanp | roxville, I mean the rigth command that the clock isn't too big in preview, etc. the background can be in any not too pixellike. |
| 13:57.07 | roxville | mathmanp, you'll have to take the clock hands from somewhere |
| 13:57.26 | roxville | and then replace...bah, you know what you need to do |
| 14:00.34 | mathmanp | hehe, where can I find the bg |
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| 14:03.43 | roxville | mathmanp, first image http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9149/clocktowerejh7.png |
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| 14:04.48 | Elive_user67 | Hello everyonenewuser |
| 14:05.08 | roxville | mathmanp, image 2http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5846/clocktowereclockfacens3.png |
| 14:05.20 | Bryanstein | Hey Elive_user67 |
| 14:05.23 | roxville | hello Elive_NewUser |
| 14:05.37 | keyra | roxville: hi |
| 14:05.49 | Elive_NewUser | can anyone tell me how can i get a package I need ?? |
| 14:06.17 | roxville | go to the post office, bring proper ID... |
| 14:06.37 | roxville | Elive_NewUser, what package? |
| 14:06.37 | Elive_NewUser | with a comand or something,(sorry I am new) |
| 14:06.52 | roxville | it's ok, we have all been new :) |
| 14:06.56 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 14:06.59 | Elive_NewUser | tcl-dev and tk-dev |
| 14:07.02 | roxville | hell i'm STILL new, after two years! |
| 14:07.02 | wasynyt | try synaptic |
| 14:07.05 | wasynyt | heh |
| 14:07.36 | roxville | yes Elive_NewUser in the launcher bar to the far right is elpanel |
| 14:07.41 | roxville | click on the keys |
| 14:07.58 | roxville | then click on an icon that looks like a software box |
| 14:09.05 | Bryanstein | brb |
| 14:09.45 | mathmanp | roxville, cool, I'll play around with it. |
| 14:10.52 | roxville | ok |
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| 14:12.03 | Elive_NewUser | ok I am trying synaptic I think I found that package |
| 14:12.28 | Bryanstein | did you have to use your id card? |
| 14:12.33 | Elive_NewUser | is there any other method, a frined told me something about a command get app (I think) |
| 14:12.43 | wasynyt | apt-get install |
| 14:12.53 | wasynyt | apt-get update |
| 14:12.57 | wasynyt | apt-get upgrade |
| 14:13.09 | wasynyt | apt-get remove |
| 14:13.13 | Elive_NewUser | thats right :D thats for programs too? |
| 14:13.13 | wasynyt | for starters try man apt-get |
| 14:13.26 | wasynyt | in console |
| 14:13.29 | Elive_NewUser | ok thanks wasynyt |
| 14:13.34 | wasynyt | your welcome |
| 14:13.47 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:13.52 | Elive_NewUser | : D |
| 14:14.30 | roxville | <Bryanstein> did you have to use your id card? |
| 14:14.31 | roxville | lol |
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| 14:15.52 | Elive_NewUser | wasynt one question, how do I use that comand, can you show me an example please |
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| 14:16.10 | wasynyt | start terminal |
| 14:16.12 | wasynyt | su |
| 14:16.15 | wasynyt | su password |
| 14:16.24 | wasynyt | apt-get update |
| 14:16.33 | wasynyt | just updates your package list |
| 14:16.39 | Elive_NewUser | ok |
| 14:16.43 | roxville | apt-get install packagename |
| 14:16.47 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 14:17.00 | wasynyt | but this is an example that does nothing |
| 14:17.01 | Elive_NewUser | ok now I undestand |
| 14:17.04 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 14:17.14 | wasynyt | in terminal man apt-get |
| 14:17.18 | wasynyt | ie |
| 14:17.21 | wasynyt | start terminal |
| 14:17.28 | wasynyt | man apt-get |
| 14:18.04 | wasynyt | or in your browser in google or similiar service man apt-get |
| 14:18.05 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 14:18.14 | Elive_NewUser | ok |
| 14:18.22 | Elive_NewUser | ;D |
| 14:18.25 | wasynyt | then you will have links to the sites that man pages |
| 14:19.02 | wasynyt | man pages are very good... when things go wrong.. |
| 14:19.25 | Elive_NewUser | ok IÄşl tryit thanks |
| 14:19.29 | wasynyt | as in linux even when gui does not work you are not without tools... more like the oposite |
| 14:19.35 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:20.32 | Elive_NewUser | :D |
| 14:20.37 | wasynyt | few notes i have made... read the fucking manual or rtfm, have one text based text editor and remember your su password |
| 14:20.53 | wasynyt | with those you can really fix nearly anything |
| 14:21.02 | wasynyt | in linux box at least |
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| 14:23.26 | Elive_NewUser | One thing, How can i use a higher resolution the maximumit lets me is 800x600? |
| 14:24.10 | Elive_NewUser | in screen , display settings the maximum is that but in windows it lets me use a hiher one why?? |
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| 14:25.35 | roxville | Elive_NewUser, use elpanel |
| 14:25.45 | roxville | in the same window, there's a monitor icon |
| 14:26.02 | roxville | i suggest you lower the color depth to 16 |
| 14:26.17 | Elive_NewUser | ok |
| 14:26.32 | roxville | it won't make a big diff, and it will be MUCH MUCH easier for you to get a higher resolution |
| 14:27.14 | Elive_NewUser | I think I have solved it, it seems epanel is my solution for everything |
| 14:27.21 | Elive_NewUser | Thanks |
| 14:28.05 | roxville | :) |
| 14:28.12 | roxville | yw Elive_NewUser have fun! |
| 14:28.34 | Elive_NewUser | :D |
| 14:30.09 | wasynyt | other thing is to chec your monitor settings from xorg.conf.. especially hortical and vertical sync vallues plus listed resolutions and depths |
| 14:30.32 | wasynyt | but that is something that should not be done if no idea what is doing |
| 14:33.15 | roxville | the elpanel options are generally well thought out |
| 14:33.54 | roxville | fist, set color depth, restart the graphical system by pressing ctrl+alt+ <-- |
| 14:34.02 | roxville | first |
| 14:34.03 | wasynyt | yeah but lately we had a user who's machine had wronly detected h w sync |
| 14:34.11 | roxville | and then set the resolution |
| 14:44.07 | Elive_NewUser | is it posible to place icons,images...in the deskopt?? |
| 14:45.18 | roxville | Elive_NewUser, no...not yet |
| 14:45.36 | roxville | there is a newer version of e17...but it's unstable at the moment |
| 14:45.44 | roxville | so elive won't use it...just yet |
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| 14:46.08 | Elive_NewUser | so whatĹ› the deskopts function?Âż |
| 14:46.37 | roxville | to look GOOD! |
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| 14:48.38 | Elive_NewUser | so to open every program etc I need to use commands or the file manager?? |
| 14:49.38 | roxville | no, just click ON the desktop |
| 14:50.00 | roxville | anywahere |
| 14:50.11 | roxville | anywhere on the desktop |
| 14:50.37 | Bryanstein | lol@to look good |
| 14:50.50 | roxville | well... |
| 14:50.55 | roxville | :) |
| 14:51.25 | Elive_NewUser | but for example if I install a new program i I clic anywhere in the deskopt it will appearin that menu? |
| 14:51.43 | roxville | ahhh.... |
| 14:51.49 | roxville | ok |
| 14:52.17 | roxville | Elive_NewUser, for a lot of apps that ppl install most, Thanatermesis has made already the special icons called eaps |
| 14:52.30 | roxville | but...if you need to make one |
| 14:52.38 | roxville | apt, make-eap |
| 14:52.40 | apt | i heard make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 14:52.48 | roxville | read that |
| 14:53.05 | roxville | this will also get a little easier in the newer version of e17 |
| 14:53.32 | Elive_NewUser | ok |
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| 14:59.22 | Elive_NewUser | hello again. I cant get this packages tcl-dev and tk-dev trough synaptic how can i get them? |
| 14:59.23 | Thanatermesis | kevin_, a propos de le effacement du code, juste le effacer, pas besoin de le re-ecrire :) |
| 14:59.36 | keyra | Elive_NewUser: hi |
| 14:59.54 | Thanatermesis | |]~[| apt-cache search tcl dev |
| 15:00.04 | Thanatermesis | tcl8.3-dev - Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.3 - development files |
| 15:00.04 | Thanatermesis | tcl8.4-dev - Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - development files |
| 15:00.19 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i think this user is from spain |
| 15:00.25 | roxville | Elive_NewUser, are you in spain? |
| 15:00.43 | Elive_NewUser | yeah thatĹ› right |
| 15:00.57 | roxville | so is Thanatermesis elive's developer |
| 15:01.41 | Elive_NewUser | hu? |
| 15:04.06 | Elive_NewUser | hello?? |
| 15:05.39 | roxville | lol |
| 15:06.02 | roxville | Elive_NewUser, the guy that makes elive...is from barcelona |
| 15:06.32 | Elive_NewUser | yes?? i didn know |
| 15:08.00 | Elive_NewUser | but how cn i get that packages :D |
| 15:08.03 | Elive_NewUser | Âż? |
| 15:10.10 | Elive_NewUser | Im lost |
| 15:11.18 | Elive_NewUser | hello? |
| 15:11.32 | keyra | Elive_NewUser: hi |
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| 15:12.12 | Elive_NewUser | are you a bot or something?? |
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| 15:12.36 | Elive_NewUser | I cant get this packages tcl-dev and tk-dev trough synaptic how can i get them? |
| 15:13.28 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_NewUser> but how cn i get that packages :D |
| 15:13.39 | Thanatermesis | you need to read a little howto about how to use apt-get |
| 15:13.47 | Thanatermesis | you have good ones on the bookmarks of Elive |
| 15:13.55 | Elive_NewUser | I have tried |
| 15:13.56 | Thanatermesis | or you can use synaptic, GUI package manager |
| 15:14.03 | Thanatermesis | anyways, apt-get install packagename |
| 15:14.04 | Elive_NewUser | apt-get tcl-dev |
| 15:14.10 | Thanatermesis | man apt-get :) |
| 15:14.28 | Thanatermesis | kevin_, ping |
| 15:15.24 | kevin_ | Thanatermesis, pong |
| 15:15.26 | kevin_ | ^^ |
| 15:16.33 | Elive_NewUser | I trying apt-get install tcl-dev , but it says me that maybe there is not the package its in other place... |
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| 15:26.28 | elmo40 | Elive_NewUser: it needs the exact spelling. First, type: apt-cache search tcl-dev |
| 15:26.59 | elmo40 | then see how it is exactly spelled, and do: apt-get install NAME |
| 15:27.14 | elmo40 | it may be tcl8.4-dev? |
| 15:27.25 | elmo40 | what are you trying to install, anyways? |
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| 15:29.11 | Elive_NewUser | ok i doesn matter |
| 15:29.11 | LinuxNIT | Elive_NewUser, you may need to apt-get update |
| 15:29.22 | Elive_NewUser | i installed a similar aplication |
| 15:29.40 | LinuxNIT | apt-get update updates the programs database of urls to where the files are located on the server |
| 15:29.48 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT moo |
| 15:29.55 | LinuxNIT | howdy elmo40 |
| 15:30.02 | keyra | elmo40: bee ]:) |
| 15:32.16 | Elive_NewUser | how can i add an icon to the icons bar there is in the deskopt?? |
| 15:32.24 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT keeping busy lately? |
| 15:32.48 | LinuxNIT | elmo40, yes, quite busy |
| 15:32.57 | elmo40 | Elive_NewUser: to get to your apps, you can always Alt+Esc for the run command. |
| 15:33.10 | Elive_NewUser | ok thanks |
| 15:33.11 | LinuxNIT | Elive_NewUser, elpanel >look n feel > e17 >entangle |
| 15:33.11 | keyra | elmo40: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 15:33.24 | Elive_NewUser | OK :D |
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| 15:34.27 | LinuxNIT | i have to take a quick shower... cyall later |
| 15:36.56 | elmo40 | keyra: I DO NOT HAVE A MACBOOK!!! |
| 15:37.11 | elmo40 | apt stab key |
| 15:37.12 | apt | ACTION runs at key with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 15:37.20 | elmo40 | apt stab keyra |
| 15:37.21 | apt | ACTION runs at keyra with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
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| 15:47.36 | Elive_NewUser | bye everyone |
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| 16:23.05 | Elive_user50 | hi |
| 16:23.32 | Elive_user50 | im haveing a problem with the dhcp timout time on my laptop |
| 16:23.54 | Elive_user50 | isa anyone there? |
| 16:24.00 | Elive_user50 | is* |
| 16:24.07 | Bryanstein | everyone is there |
| 16:24.34 | Elive_user50 | do you know where i can set the dhcp timeout time? |
| 16:25.07 | Elive_user50 | on slack it is /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf |
| 16:25.26 | Elive_user50 | there is no such file on elive... |
| 16:26.00 | Bryanstein | lol yes you are right...let me see something |
| 16:26.01 | Elive_user50 | thanks.. |
| 16:29.20 | Bryanstein | hold on I'm on a RH AS box...let me ssh into my Elive box and try something...it should be there |
| 16:29.39 | Elive_user50 | thank you |
| 16:31.43 | Bryanstein | lol my neighbor needs me...I'll be back..I won't leave you hagging |
| 16:32.05 | Elive_user50 | lol ok |
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| 16:38.57 | Bryanstein | Elive_user50: you find it yet |
| 16:39.21 | Bryanstein | hello |
| 16:39.35 | keyra | Bryanstein: hi |
| 16:39.52 | Bryanstein | dhclient.conf...keyra is there a document on the wiki |
| 16:40.00 | Bryanstein | hey keyra |
| 16:40.16 | Bryanstein | uncomment timeout and set it as you wish |
| 16:43.38 | Elive_user50 | hi |
| 16:45.25 | roxville | can't you set that in the elpanel net conf? |
| 16:46.12 | roxville | hm, i guess not... |
| 16:50.47 | Bryanstein | man I ate something yesterday that didn't agree with me |
| 16:51.11 | Bryanstein | <--- might as well ate it on the toilet...it came almost as fast as it went in |
| 16:51.56 | roxville | ouch |
| 16:52.00 | Bryanstein | that's my neighbor wants me line...not everyone wants to know when you're going to do the dirty deed |
| 16:52.12 | roxville | LOL |
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| 16:54.45 | Bryanstein | man I need a good cd-rw...I want to test this old RH AS on this hp x2000 as well, but I don't want to waist the cdr's |
| 16:54.48 | roxville | welcome back, THEoracle_ :) |
| 16:54.49 | Bryanstein | waste |
| 16:55.16 | THEoracle_ | hello roxville |
| 16:55.25 | roxville | oh... sorry it doesn't work, i forgot |
| 16:55.30 | keyra | THEoracle_: hi |
| 16:55.40 | THEoracle_ | shaddup keyra |
| 16:55.52 | Bryanstein | well I'll just slap Gem back on it and let er rip |
| 16:57.18 | Bryanstein | how is the dl progress rox? |
| 16:58.10 | roxville | eta 2;38 |
| 16:58.25 | Bryanstein | I think they throttled my connection |
| 16:58.38 | roxville | sounds very likely :) |
| 16:58.47 | Bryanstein | lol more than before |
| 16:59.17 | Bryanstein | I need to put my WRT54 as my gateway but I like playing with it too much |
| 16:59.36 | Bryanstein | I can get snmp figure on the exact bit rate realtime |
| 16:59.41 | Bryanstein | figures |
| 16:59.48 | Bryanstein | on all interfaces |
| 17:01.08 | mathmanp | roxville, this is how far I got: http://stashbox.org/26064/church-test.edj this is already compiled with elive. the grey bar at the bottom won't occur in new e17, think it's the overlay, will try to fix that. think we'll have to tune the shadows an the overlay a bit. and maybe even better handels. OK. go to run. |
| 17:01.22 | keyra | mathmanp: please make a look to http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/27.html |
| 17:03.17 | wasynyt | good afternoon people.. (again |
| 17:03.21 | wasynyt | *) |
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| 17:04.23 | wasynyt | Bryanstein, have you dvd-rw ? those work with cd isos as well |
| 17:04.33 | wasynyt | or +rw |
| 17:04.48 | Bryanstein | nope...all of mine have holes in them |
| 17:04.57 | wasynyt | ? |
| 17:05.05 | Bryanstein | little itty bitty tinny holes |
| 17:05.08 | roxville | math that's great! |
| 17:05.22 | Bryanstein | from wear and tear...it's normal |
| 17:05.29 | wasynyt | k |
| 17:05.38 | wasynyt | so nothing working left ;P |
| 17:05.48 | Bryanstein | hold them up to the light and low and behold |
| 17:06.37 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:06.44 | Bryanstein | brb |
| 17:06.44 | roxville | math that's awesome! |
| 17:07.05 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 17:16.59 | roxville | a quickie |
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| 17:34.55 | cgwyllie | hey |
| 17:35.01 | cgwyllie | anybody about? |
| 17:35.18 | wasynyt | good evening cgwyllie |
| 17:35.50 | cgwyllie | hiya |
| 17:35.54 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:35.58 | wasynyt | how are you doing |
| 17:36.06 | cgwyllie | alrighty methinks |
| 17:36.10 | cgwyllie | how about ourself? |
| 17:36.12 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:36.34 | cgwyllie | mmh |
| 17:36.39 | wasynyt | ? |
| 17:36.48 | cgwyllie | xchat...weirdness. I've never used it beofre you see |
| 17:36.54 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:37.02 | wasynyt | well it is one of the best if you ask me |
| 17:37.28 | cgwyllie | hmm |
| 17:37.47 | cgwyllie | i thought i may as well check it out and meet some of the community behind my favourite os :P |
| 17:37.55 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:38.00 | wasynyt | good decission |
| 17:38.06 | cgwyllie | lol |
| 17:38.13 | wasynyt | a little silent at the moment tho |
| 17:38.15 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 17:38.20 | cgwyllie | i'm hoping to get version 1 up on my laptop tonight |
| 17:38.23 | cgwyllie | hehe |
| 17:38.31 | cgwyllie | lotsa people connected though? |
| 17:38.40 | wasynyt | you bought it.. (paypal) |
| 17:38.46 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:38.49 | wasynyt | yeah we have |
| 17:39.12 | cgwyllie | mmh, i got my download from softpedia :( |
| 17:39.24 | cgwyllie | the last time i donated and downloaded, my HD had a head crash :P |
| 17:39.27 | wasynyt | read our topic |
| 17:39.45 | cgwyllie | mhm |
| 17:39.45 | wasynyt | that is a sad fact |
| 17:39.47 | cgwyllie | thanks |
| 17:39.53 | roxville | yeah |
| 17:39.55 | wasynyt | nothing |
| 17:39.58 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:39.59 | cgwyllie | it's ok, the drive was old.. |
| 17:40.07 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 17:40.10 | roxville | hi cgwyllie :) hope you got a good copy...even if it took a while to get it |
| 17:40.11 | wasynyt | that happens |
| 17:40.33 | cgwyllie | ta, i think it's ok, it booted fine, i'll verify it before install tho |
| 17:40.47 | wasynyt | do that |
| 17:42.09 | roxville | one thing was the links in firefox/iceweasel |
| 17:42.30 | roxville | if you see like porn links and stuff... you got a bad one |
| 17:42.57 | cgwyllie | lol, righto thanks |
| 17:43.03 | wasynyt | heh |
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| 17:47.40 | LinuxNIT | THEoracle_, ping |
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| 18:05.55 | Bryanstein | hello Geek_juice |
| 18:06.09 | keyra | Bryanstein: hi |
| 18:09.56 | Geek_Juice | Hello Bryanstein...I have to go now |
| 18:10.12 | Bryanstein | that Geek_Juice is a great guy |
| 18:11.08 | roxville | LOL |
| 18:11.27 | cgwyllie | understanding -> 0 |
| 18:11.41 | LinuxNIT | are you a bit bored Bryanstein ? |
| 18:12.11 | Bryanstein | No...I always talk to myself...I have low self esteem so I do that to make me feel better |
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| 18:12.26 | keyra | Bryanstein: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 18:12.34 | Bryanstein | I need counseling...I know |
| 18:13.12 | LinuxNIT | i see |
| 18:21.40 | roxville | hehe |
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| 18:36.22 | marcfp | hi wasynyt |
| 18:36.33 | wasynyt | good evening marcfp |
| 18:37.22 | GPLGeek | glascow airport was just hit by a suicide bomber in a car packed with explosives |
| 18:37.42 | marcfp | wasynyt: in my state is at afternon ... |
| 18:37.51 | marcfp | 30 minuts ago ... we past at night :S |
| 18:37.55 | wasynyt | in finland its evening |
| 18:37.58 | GPLGeek | When will they learn to deport the terrorists and their families instead of giving them government aid |
| 18:38.08 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 18:38.46 | roxville | glasgow in scotland, right? |
| 18:40.02 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 18:40.15 | GPLGeek | scotland and england, same types of car bombs |
| 18:40.24 | GPLGeek | same group claiming reponsability |
| 18:41.02 | Bryanstein | ADVERTISEMENT |
| 18:41.02 | Bryanstein | There were no reports of injuries but the airport — Scotland's largest — was evacuated and all flights suspended, a day after British police thwarted a plot to bomb central London, discovering two cars abandoned with loads of gasoline, gas canisters and nails. Hundreds fled screaming from the terminal as one of the men poured gasoline over the Jeep and tried to force it further inside the terminal, one witness said. |
| 18:41.02 | Bryanstein | "One has to conclude ... these are linked," Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, former head of Britain's joint intelligence committee, told Sky News. "This is a very young government, and we may yet see further attacks." |
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| 18:41.30 | Bryanstein | ummm ooops |
| 18:41.33 | Bryanstein | I highlighted on thing and that happened |
| 18:41.35 | Bryanstein | sorry |
| 18:42.02 | marcfp | hi bryan smith :) |
| 18:42.30 | Bryanstein | hello marcfp |
| 18:42.44 | keyra | Bryanstein: hi |
| 18:43.28 | marcfp | Bryanstein: are you a developer of e-17 ? |
| 18:44.00 | Bryanstein | nOpe..but everyone else is |
| 18:44.34 | Bryanstein | sorry about that guys |
| 18:44.41 | Bryanstein | GLASGOW, Scotland - Two men rammed a flaming Jeep Cherokee into the main terminal of Glasgow airport Saturday, crashing into the glass doors at the entrance in what appeared to be the third attempted terror attack on Britain in two days, witnesses said. Police wrestled the two men to the ground — one of them engulfed in flames — arresting both and taking one to the hospital. |
| 18:44.45 | Bryanstein | that is what I meant to do |
| 18:45.05 | Bryanstein | but it inverted the selection and copied the rest of the page..lol ...errr |
| 18:45.10 | GPLGeek | A friend of mine is from UAE and he said "It blows my mind that over and over again Middle-Eastern/Arab/Islamic people are commiting such crimes of terror and yet the doors are still open for more to come into the country. Any sane govenrment would put two and two together" |
| 18:45.29 | wasynyt | humm |
| 18:45.44 | GPLGeek | and he IS Arab.... that's how they think of it. |
| 18:45.48 | Bryanstein | Well you can't just keep ALL Middle-Eastern/Arab/Islamic people out |
| 18:45.59 | GPLGeek | you can stop more from coming in. |
| 18:46.09 | Bryanstein | yes but that just isn't fair |
| 18:46.32 | Bryanstein | If you really look at it...there are soooo many Middle-Eastern/Arab/Islamic people...if they all were like that... |
| 18:46.45 | Bryanstein | there would be no end to the caos |
| 18:47.01 | Bryanstein | there is s small lot of trouble makers |
| 18:47.05 | GPLGeek | I don't need to be a global citizen, I like my nationality. Everyone in the world should not be an American or have access to this country if 75% of their country wants to destroy my country. Its common sense. |
| 18:47.08 | Bryanstein | in ALL races |
| 18:47.28 | Bryanstein | lol cmon 75% |
| 18:47.42 | GPLGeek | oh is it more? |
| 18:48.02 | Bryanstein | less |
| 18:49.21 | Bryanstein | well at any rate...I don't like it but you can't really solve problems by locking in everyone |
| 18:49.26 | GPLGeek | My buddy Cedric lives in the UK and he had somone move in next to him and he went out to pick up his paper and the guy said "I'd so much like to kill you in the name of god you slime" so why did they let that family into the UK? If all they wanted to do is kill people. |
| 18:49.26 | maximiliano | GPLGeek: i think 75% isnt enought, |
| 18:49.44 | GPLGeek | His new neighbors got arrested plotting a knife assasination of the new prime minister |
| 18:49.46 | Bryanstein | there will always be acts against humanity |
| 18:49.55 | Bryanstein | WOA |
| 18:49.59 | GPLGeek | let more in? |
| 18:50.00 | keyra | Bryanstein: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 18:50.23 | GPLGeek | open the gates! come on syria, iran, come be my neighbor!!! here take my welfare! |
| 18:50.55 | GPLGeek | they could at least screen them better |
| 18:51.36 | GPLGeek | i mean hell.. they call it racial profiling i call it common sense. If you know a wolf is going to attack why check all of the sheep for sharp teeth? |
| 18:51.41 | Bryanstein | there is no way to stop guys from doing acts if they are determined to do so...you can get some but not all |
| 18:54.41 | roxville | good choice wasynyt |
| 18:55.08 | roxville | GPLGeek, we have arabs here in the channel...some of the best ppl i know |
| 18:55.20 | Bryanstein | Yes Because I was captain of the Debat team |
| 18:55.27 | GPLGeek | true |
| 18:55.28 | Bryanstein | lol just kidding |
| 18:55.35 | roxville | so it's not very smart to single out a people just like that |
| 18:55.52 | Bryanstein | marcfp: |
| 18:55.59 | marcfp | yes ? |
| 18:56.04 | Bryanstein | http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Contact/ |
| 18:56.12 | GPLGeek | not a people, countries |
| 18:56.17 | Bryanstein | list of the developers and such on that link |
| 18:56.18 | wasynyt | nope |
| 18:56.30 | marcfp | Bryanstein: i must leave now |
| 18:56.35 | roxville | well, countries are tough to single out too |
| 18:56.39 | marcfp | at another time i look it :) |
| 18:56.46 | marcfp | a lot of thank's to you :) |
| 18:56.48 | roxville | it's always about who you are as a person |
| 18:56.48 | marcfp | bye |
| 18:56.55 | Bryanstein | Ok have a good day |
| 18:56.57 | Bryanstein | bye |
| 18:57.02 | keyra | roxville: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 18:57.11 | roxville | thx keyra .... |
| 18:57.13 | GPLGeek | it's the right of a country to know and authorize who comes and goes |
| 18:57.19 | GPLGeek | without that what's the point in having a country |
| 18:57.28 | roxville | this is true |
| 18:57.34 | roxville | and i never debated that |
| 18:57.40 | Bryanstein | The only people I think are bad are the Aliens, and that's just because they won't touch down on the landing pad I made for them |
| 18:57.48 | roxville | i just thought you went haywire |
| 18:57.56 | GPLGeek | so countries, in themselves, are evil, for keeping others out? |
| 18:58.01 | roxville | LMAO Bryanstein !!!!!! |
| 18:58.12 | GPLGeek | Bryanstein, I hear that |
| 18:58.39 | roxville | no, countries are not evil... but the ppl that run/control them can be |
| 18:58.50 | Bryanstein | I just don't want there to be another Shoah |
| 18:59.27 | Bryanstein | very very bad things happen when a few bad guys are in power |
| 18:59.47 | roxville | yes |
| 19:00.20 | Bryanstein | very bad things happen when good guys are in power as well |
| 19:00.37 | roxville | true |
| 19:00.55 | Bryanstein | We argue republican /democrat but there is no difference...the same things happen no matter who has control |
| 19:01.37 | roxville | yep |
| 19:01.38 | GPLGeek | in USA we have a few problems we need to fix with our system. A few very minor problems can lead to very very bad consequences |
| 19:01.55 | Bryanstein | oh yes |
| 19:01.55 | GPLGeek | I think many of the problems have already started to correct itself |
| 19:02.10 | keyra | GPLGeek: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 19:02.26 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 19:02.29 | GPLGeek | keyra, don't ask me to ask about asking your problem |
| 19:02.56 | roxville | both the islamist movement and the american neo-conservatives started at about the same time (in the 50's) and... in the same place (in the u.s.) |
| 19:03.20 | roxville | look up bbc documentary "the power of nightmares" |
| 19:03.40 | GPLGeek | the thing is , look at it this way. Walls |
| 19:03.42 | Bryanstein | Should other countries keep americans out ? |
| 19:03.50 | GPLGeek | Walls have kept factions from fighting eachotehr in iraq |
| 19:03.59 | GPLGeek | wall was put up violence dropped 90% |
| 19:04.13 | GPLGeek | give people a cool-down period |
| 19:04.31 | GPLGeek | doesn't mean we have to discriminate between the two factions, but its obvious the two factions are fighting |
| 19:05.32 | Bryanstein | Should other countries keep americans out ? |
| 19:05.39 | GPLGeek | I'll have my buddy drop by later tonight when he gets off his shift, he's actually from the UAE and has some really good ideas to promote peace. One of them is to seperate people and then work on local education and infrastructure |
| 19:06.07 | GPLGeek | Bryanstein, if they wish |
| 19:06.51 | Bryanstein | Well who Dropped 2 nukes on Japan...WHo banned Americans after that happened |
| 19:07.21 | Bryanstein | DId you know Iran had a Democracy at one point in time that was functioning and had good relations with the US |
| 19:07.28 | GPLGeek | Bryanstein, those nukes were gifts |
| 19:07.36 | GPLGeek | it doesn't count =p |
| 19:07.40 | Bryanstein | Until the US government toppled it |
| 19:07.44 | Bryanstein | hahahahaha |
| 19:07.46 | GPLGeek | it was just fireworks |
| 19:07.50 | GPLGeek | they love fireworks |
| 19:07.58 | GPLGeek | Japan attacked the US |
| 19:08.03 | GPLGeek | the US responded in a bad way |
| 19:08.07 | GPLGeek | internment camps |
| 19:08.16 | GPLGeek | even for 2nd and 3rd generation |
| 19:08.19 | Bryanstein | yes I mean Geneva convention Smaneva Convention |
| 19:08.34 | Bryanstein | that was a war crime |
| 19:08.45 | GPLGeek | it saved so many lives |
| 19:08.47 | Elive_user50 | maybe the us should think about what it is doing wrong to anger the extreamists |
| 19:08.54 | GPLGeek | ending a war instantly instead of fighting it out |
| 19:09.12 | Bryanstein | saved many lives and people are still dying today and will from the fallout |
| 19:09.18 | GPLGeek | but our internment was hell |
| 19:09.28 | roxville | Elive_user50 very good point |
| 19:09.29 | Bryanstein | you know the half life of uranium 232 ...I know you do |
| 19:09.37 | GPLGeek | Bryanstein, of course I do |
| 19:10.01 | Bryanstein | so...think about how you would feel if some country nuked us |
| 19:10.02 | GPLGeek | o0 |
| 19:10.08 | GPLGeek | its around 22 years |
| 19:10.27 | Bryanstein | lol...you are joking right |
| 19:10.55 | GPLGeek | there are some things that can speed up it breaking down too |
| 19:11.15 | GPLGeek | er actually it depends |
| 19:11.24 | GPLGeek | uranium 232 is 70 years |
| 19:11.29 | Bryanstein | more like 70 yrs..yes |
| 19:11.31 | GPLGeek | but once its used in a nuke its 22 years |
| 19:12.10 | Bryanstein | anyway...can you find anyone who saw that great fireworks display? |
| 19:12.30 | GPLGeek | I've actually talked to a old guy, hes dead now, who survived it |
| 19:12.35 | Bryanstein | what |
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| 19:12.46 | Bryanstein | did he look like swamp thing ? |
| 19:12.55 | GPLGeek | no |
| 19:13.22 | GPLGeek | he looked pretty good for a old guy. |
| 19:13.32 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 19:13.36 | GPLGeek | nukes are CRAZY man... unlike what we have EVER seen |
| 19:13.36 | roxville | Elive_user50 did you install elive? |
| 19:14.15 | Bryanstein | well there are bunches of US troops who braved them and some of us may be off spring of them |
| 19:14.21 | GPLGeek | right below the bomb 2 brothers were in a bus they lived, everyone around them died. For some reason they were not scorched or otherwise harmed. One of them later died from radiation poisoning. |
| 19:14.44 | Bryanstein | they say the MIDWEST and North West is contaminated from all of the tests back in the day |
| 19:15.44 | GPLGeek | It's a good thing our weapons don't leave fallout anymore |
| 19:15.58 | Elive_user50 | yes |
| 19:16.07 | Elive_user50 | roxville |
| 19:16.11 | roxville | Elive_user50 and? |
| 19:16.18 | Bryanstein | Have you ever seen the people who bought the old missle silo and they live in it |
| 19:16.19 | roxville | how's it running? |
| 19:16.29 | GPLGeek | the US has switched from nukes to neutron bombs. They can be launched from 8 inch howitzers, or be loaded on the titan-II or some of the newer methods of delivery |
| 19:16.31 | Bryanstein | I'm not one for missile silo's but I love the place |
| 19:16.35 | GPLGeek | the idea is to AVOID USING THEM |
| 19:16.36 | Elive_user50 | good |
| 19:16.43 | Elive_user50 | much faster than gnome... |
| 19:16.55 | roxville | oh yeah |
| 19:16.57 | Elive_user50 | I think it still needs a little polish though |
| 19:17.03 | GPLGeek | Bryanstein, I've been around missile silos, ones still being used by the govt |
| 19:17.14 | roxville | polish... like vodka? |
| 19:17.37 | Elive_user50 | lol like shoes |
| 19:17.53 | roxville | it does... and it is getting better and better... elive has only one dev... and he's doing aheck of a job |
| 19:18.09 | Bryanstein | I don't even want to know why you were near a silo |
| 19:18.20 | Elive_user50 | yeah ive e-mailed him he seems nice |
| 19:18.26 | roxville | e17 itself is undergoing MASSIVE changes at the moment |
| 19:18.36 | roxville | but is a bit unstalle right now |
| 19:18.38 | Bryanstein | I'm an amatuer rocket build..lol |
| 19:18.39 | Elive_user50 | yeah most of the faults are in e17 i think |
| 19:18.48 | Bryanstein | builder |
| 19:18.50 | roxville | i think we will start doing tests with it soon |
| 19:18.58 | GPLGeek | Bryanstein, I can never enjoy a tiny rocket again after the things I've seen. |
| 19:19.06 | roxville | we just gotta get Gem out officially first |
| 19:19.19 | GPLGeek | Bryanstein, I've seen ICBM's, Satilites, shuttles launch |
| 19:19.26 | Elive_user50 | one thing ive noticed about elightenment |
| 19:19.31 | Bryanstein | hahaha...I've seen the shuttle launch |
| 19:19.36 | Elive_user50 | is that its harder to do the simple things |
| 19:19.53 | Elive_user50 | like aligning gadgets, and adding applications |
| 19:19.53 | GPLGeek | I was hunting on vandenburg airforce base and they closed down my favorite hunting zone to launch a bunch of missiles |
| 19:19.55 | roxville | yes, unless you're a commandline cowboy |
| 19:19.56 | Bryanstein | I live in Florida...seen 2 launches from cape carnaveral, but and ICBM is crazy |
| 19:20.17 | roxville | Elive_user50 these things are being adressed actually |
| 19:20.35 | Elive_user50 | im by no means afraid of the command line, but i dont think i should use the command line, to edit my gui |
| 19:20.35 | GPLGeek | the ICBMs are so fast... faster because they don't need to worry about the people inside, higher G's |
| 19:20.38 | roxville | i have tried the new version a couple of times... and it's MUCH better/easier to configure |
| 19:21.12 | Elive_user50 | yeah e seems to have great potential |
| 19:21.33 | GPLGeek | elive_user50, E17 is going to rock a lot of end-user stuff is going into it soon |
| 19:21.35 | roxville | <Elive_user50> im by no means afraid of the command line, but i dont think i should use the command line, to edit my gui |
| 19:21.40 | GPLGeek | heck we already have .desktop |
| 19:21.55 | Elive_user50 | i'll be interested to compare it to kde4 when they both are stable |
| 19:22.02 | GPLGeek | but we are soon going to have all the right click and drag and drop features we would expect |
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| 19:22.14 | Bryanstein | brb...ahem did he say kde |
| 19:22.29 | Elive_user50 | lol |
| 19:22.38 | Elive_user50 | yes kde :0 |
| 19:23.33 | roxville | hehe |
| 19:23.56 | GPLGeek | KDE isn't bad |
| 19:24.06 | GPLGeek | It's good to have competition |
| 19:24.15 | GPLGeek | it drives innovation! |
| 19:24.35 | roxville | yep |
| 19:24.36 | Elive_user50 | why is it competition? |
| 19:24.48 | Elive_user50 | open sorce is about choice right |
| 19:25.05 | GPLGeek | no |
| 19:25.09 | roxville | to be honest, i don't think rasterman cares about the competition... |
| 19:25.15 | roxville | he's too arrogant for that |
| 19:25.22 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 19:25.45 | roxville | but he's got some pretty snazzy ideas |
| 19:26.28 | Elive_user50 | does anyone know how far e17 is into development? |
| 19:26.29 | GPLGeek | my idea is called app square |
| 19:26.53 | GPLGeek | press a key and a bunch of squares pop up with your favorite apps, and the icons are screenshots of them. |
| 19:26.57 | roxville | Elive_user3, you have good links to e17 in your iceweasel bookmarks |
| 19:27.06 | GPLGeek | then you can select which one you want |
| 19:27.07 | keyra | GPLGeek: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 19:27.24 | roxville | oops, sorry Elive_user3 |
| 19:27.33 | roxville | Elive_user50, you have good links to e17 in your iceweasel bookmarks |
| 19:27.53 | Elive_user50 | so i do lol |
| 19:28.26 | GPLGeek | elive_user50 on a scale from 1 to 10 e17 is at a 4, they did a lot of innovation then made it stable, now they do more innovation then they make it more stable, then on the final stage they polish it and do some themes, graphics, last minute bugs, etc |
| 19:29.15 | Elive_user50 | thanks yeah |
| 19:29.33 | Elive_user50 | it seems to me like they have the libs more or less compleat |
| 19:29.48 | Elive_user50 | now they need to make the apps built on top of them |
| 19:30.02 | GPLGeek | e has always been about strong libs |
| 19:30.09 | roxville | they are even cutting out obsolete libs now |
| 19:30.09 | GPLGeek | even if the end-product is less |
| 19:30.11 | roxville | like ewl |
| 19:30.16 | keyra | GPLGeek: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 19:30.31 | GPLGeek | because they know in the end those libs are the backbone |
| 19:30.58 | Elive_user50 | yeah while i feel kde has traditionally been the opposite... |
| 19:31.08 | GPLGeek | yep |
| 19:31.18 | Elive_user50 | and gnome... lol idk |
| 19:31.32 | Elive_user50 | just a steady base with nothing special.. |
| 19:31.39 | GPLGeek | that's why the "stable version" of kde crashes and the "unstable" version of e17 doesn't crash but lacks a few features (but I think it makes up for that elsewhere) |
| 19:32.04 | GPLGeek | gnome limits its users on purpose, sure gtk is nice but they need to get off their high horse and understand that users are not idiots |
| 19:32.33 | Elive_user50 | yeah what is interesting though, is that both kde and enlightenment have HUGE releases comeing up |
| 19:32.59 | roxville | yeah |
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| 19:33.05 | Elive_user50 | and kde is focusing on libs, while e17 is the first "desktop shell" instead of "wm" ie. more user friendly |
| 19:33.41 | GPLGeek | I really like aspects of kde |
| 19:33.47 | bentejuy | hi all! |
| 19:34.01 | roxville | hi bentejuy :) que tal? |
| 19:34.08 | Bryanstein | hey bentejuy |
| 19:34.12 | Elive_user50 | lol yeah |
| 19:34.15 | GPLGeek | Hola mi amigo |
| 19:34.39 | bentejuy | im fine, thx! :) |
| 19:35.34 | Elive_user50 | is e17 planning on including bars for containing all the widgets? |
| 19:36.20 | Bryanstein | bentejuy: usted tiene zapatos hermosos ( do you have beautiful shoes) lol...I don't know much spanish |
| 19:36.33 | Bryanstein | I know all of the normal stuff |
| 19:36.35 | GPLGeek | stalonetray will give you tray/widget support |
| 19:36.45 | GPLGeek | its a stand alone tray app |
| 19:36.58 | bentejuy | hehe |
| 19:37.05 | GPLGeek | there was in the past a bar that had tray support |
| 19:37.19 | GPLGeek | speaking of widgits, btw, google desktop does not work on elive |
| 19:37.37 | Elive_user50 | does it work on other distros? |
| 19:38.01 | Elive_user50 | your talking about the search program right? |
| 19:38.06 | GPLGeek | debian kde/gnome ubuntu kde/gnome slackware gentoo etc |
| 19:38.08 | GPLGeek | it works |
| 19:38.16 | GPLGeek | just not in e17 |
| 19:38.36 | Elive_user50 | I was not aware they had a linux port.. |
| 19:38.41 | GPLGeek | it didnt say you had to have a specific window manager or de but for some reason it doesnt run |
| 19:38.47 | roxville | <Elive_user50> is e17 planning on including bars for containing all the widgets? |
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| 19:38.59 | roxville | they have it already...called the "shelf" |
| 19:39.20 | Elive_user50 | im sorry im new to enlightenment... |
| 19:39.32 | roxville | widgets...i think he means the modules |
| 19:39.38 | Thybo | hey Elive_user50 u the same from the other day?:) |
| 19:39.50 | Elive_user50 | lol |
| 19:39.51 | roxville | Elive_user50 this is in the NEW version of it, though |
| 19:40.14 | Elive_user50 | i dont think so... |
| 19:40.22 | Elive_user50 | id better get a nickname... |
| 19:40.29 | Thybo | lol |
| 19:40.36 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.39 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 19:40.48 | Elive_user50 | thanks |
| 19:41.07 | Elive_user50 | there we go |
| 19:41.10 | Elive_user50 | or not... |
| 19:41.17 | roxville | the Elive_user50 we had the other day was a college professor in canada |
| 19:41.30 | Thybo | roxville, ure mem rocks ;) |
| 19:41.32 | Thybo | ville |
| 19:41.33 | Thybo | hahahah |
| 19:41.33 | Elive_user50 | lol no sry |
| 19:41.48 | Elive_user50 | high school student in the us |
| 19:41.52 | Thybo | lol |
| 19:41.54 | Thybo | where ? |
| 19:42.00 | roxville | hehe, that's fine too, dude :) |
| 19:42.05 | Elive_user50 | georgia |
| 19:42.20 | roxville | charleston, to be exact |
| 19:42.23 | Thybo | haha |
| 19:42.27 | Thybo | southern people yeah |
| 19:42.28 | Thybo | hehe |
| 19:42.39 | roxville | and i finished high school in... 1985 |
| 19:42.54 | Thybo | lol |
| 19:42.59 | Elive_user50 | nope no accent |
| 19:43.01 | roxville | LOL Thybo |
| 19:43.06 | Elive_user50 | origionally from england |
| 19:43.37 | roxville | so Thybo ... :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP |
| 19:44.17 | roxville | :) |
| 19:44.24 | GPLGeek | england's a cool place. Nice people great tea. |
| 19:44.31 | GPLGeek | I better get my passport and start traveling |
| 19:44.31 | Thybo | lol |
| 19:44.34 | roxville | ok, i have a gig tonight...gonna take a shot nap, bbl |
| 19:44.41 | GPLGeek | later roxville |
| 19:44.41 | Thybo | GPLGeek, go for it ;) |
| 19:45.23 | Elive_user50 | kde has such a huge community... |
| 19:45.42 | Elive_user50 | its amazing that one dev can keep up/exceed it |
| 19:46.53 | Elive_user50 | ok im gone |
| 19:46.59 | Elive_user50 | cya |
| 19:47.23 | GPLGeek | Promoting a new wm/de is like promoting a new religion |
| 19:47.28 | GPLGeek | everyone on both sides are so fanatical |
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| 19:57.50 | cgwyllie | back |
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| 20:13.06 | roxville | crap... not much of a nap... |
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| 20:34.03 | cgwyllie | not much of a nap? |
| 20:35.15 | roxville | no...i tried... |
| 20:35.32 | roxville | but my wife woke me up after 5 minutes |
| 20:36.25 | Thybo | lol |
| 20:37.28 | roxville | yeah... fun! |
| 20:38.00 | cgwyllie | hehe |
| 20:38.11 | roxville | :D |
| 20:38.24 | cgwyllie | i suppose it's dependant on how/why she woke you up whether or not it was a shame |
| 20:38.55 | roxville | she needed to go earlier than what she gotten info on |
| 20:39.08 | cgwyllie | ah.. |
| 20:41.07 | roxville | oh well... |
| 20:41.18 | roxville | now i get to sit here with you guys instead! |
| 20:41.47 | cgwyllie | yay..?! |
| 20:42.00 | roxville | yeah...yay... |
| 20:42.12 | roxville | i LOVE THIS PLACE!!! |
| 20:42.44 | roxville | let's parteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! |
| 20:50.35 | cgwyllie | *cheers* |
| 20:51.56 | roxville | :) |
| 20:52.11 | cgwyllie | can i now be a nuisance and ask for elive help? :P |
| 20:52.31 | roxville | cgwyllie, lol, of course :) |
| 20:52.48 | cgwyllie | ta heheh.. |
| 20:53.00 | cgwyllie | you couldn't tell me how to fix my entrance? |
| 20:53.22 | roxville | what's the prob? and what have you done to it? |
| 20:53.33 | cgwyllie | none of the themes for it load anymore and i have to use startx to get to e16 when I'd rather use 17 |
| 20:54.03 | cgwyllie | well about a week ago I enabled tests branch and upgraded to the latest e17 |
| 20:54.06 | cgwyllie | but it broke |
| 20:54.33 | roxville | ahhh |
| 20:54.34 | cgwyllie | so i uninstalled all of e17 and efl and disabled tests and installed efl/entrance/e17 again from the stable branch |
| 20:54.44 | roxville | then i can not help you |
| 20:54.47 | cgwyllie | it was fine until i tried to change the entrance theme today |
| 20:54.53 | cgwyllie | ok, no problem lol |
| 20:55.11 | LinuxNIT | soo.... which branch are you actually on? |
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| 20:56.17 | roxville | better reinstall your stable |
| 20:56.28 | cgwyllie | yeh I got the stable one back on |
| 20:56.33 | roxville | it should preserve pretty much anything |
| 20:56.36 | cgwyllie | and i'm cutrrently on the stable branch |
| 20:56.40 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 20:56.50 | LinuxNIT | show me ls -l /usr/share/entrance |
| 20:56.54 | Shinsten | whats going on guys |
| 20:56.59 | LinuxNIT | howdy Shinsten |
| 20:57.26 | LinuxNIT | cgwyllie, show me ls -l /usr/share/entrance/themes |
| 20:57.28 | LinuxNIT | sorry |
| 20:57.45 | LinuxNIT | also... will entrance starting right now or not? |
| 20:57.49 | cgwyllie | how do i send the output through xchat? |
| 20:57.59 | cgwyllie | or which line do you want? there are total 4 |
| 20:58.08 | cgwyllie | entrance wont start currently |
| 20:59.07 | LinuxNIT | 1. copy by highlighting the text paste by middle click. |
| 20:59.14 | cgwyllie | ok |
| 20:59.18 | LinuxNIT | 2 i want to know where the symlink points |
| 20:59.21 | keyra | LinuxNIT: http://paste.elivecd.net ? |
| 20:59.23 | cgwyllie | christopher@Sophie[~]$ ls -l /usr/share/entrance |
| 20:59.24 | cgwyllie | total 4 |
| 20:59.24 | cgwyllie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2199 2006-08-22 08:12 build_config.sh |
| 20:59.24 | cgwyllie | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 104 2007-06-30 13:43 images |
| 20:59.24 | cgwyllie | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 2007-06-30 13:43 themes |
| 20:59.26 | cgwyllie | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 2007-06-30 13:43 users |
| 20:59.29 | LinuxNIT | shutup keyra |
| 20:59.43 | keyra | LinuxNIT: :-# |
| 20:59.44 | LinuxNIT | cgwyllie, show me ls -l /usr/share/entrance/themes |
| 20:59.55 | LinuxNIT | thats what i meant the first time :-/ |
| 20:59.56 | LinuxNIT | sorrry |
| 20:59.59 | cgwyllie | christopher@Sophie[~]$ ls -l /usr/share/entrance/themes |
| 21:00.00 | cgwyllie | total 7939 |
| 21:00.00 | cgwyllie | -rw-r--r-- 1 christopher christopher 1470625 2007-04-07 21:59 clean.edj |
| 21:00.00 | cgwyllie | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1591239 2006-05-18 13:19 darkrock.edj |
| 21:00.00 | cgwyllie | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2007-04-01 16:00 default.edj -> darkrock.edj |
| 21:00.00 | cgwyllie | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2259234 2006-05-18 13:19 e17-default.edj |
| 21:00.02 | cgwyllie | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2201436 2007-05-28 03:50 elivestyle.edj |
| 21:00.04 | cgwyllie | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 588084 2007-05-28 03:51 lucax.edj |
| 21:00.06 | cgwyllie | no probs :) |
| 21:01.02 | LinuxNIT | ok remvoe the current symlink and make one pointing to e17-default.edj |
| 21:01.09 | LinuxNIT | try that |
| 21:01.23 | cgwyllie | apologies but how do i do that? |
| 21:01.58 | LinuxNIT | rm /usr/share/entrance/themes/default.edj |
| 21:02.36 | LinuxNIT | ln -s /usr/share/entrance/themes/e17-default.edj /usr/share/entrance/themes/default.edj |
| 21:02.39 | roxville | cgwyllie, it's ok dude, i've done this lots of times |
| 21:02.50 | keyra | LinuxNIT: don't worry, this is planned for the next iso ;) |
| 21:03.25 | cgwyllie | ok, now what do I need to do after changing the symlink? |
| 21:03.28 | LinuxNIT | shutup keyra |
| 21:03.38 | LinuxNIT | exit and restart entrance |
| 21:03.47 | LinuxNIT | so exit to get to the command prompt |
| 21:03.48 | cgwyllie | ok |
| 21:03.49 | LinuxNIT | and then |
| 21:03.59 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.05 | cgwyllie | ok, brb |
| 21:04.06 | LinuxNIT | or /etc/init.d/entrance restart |
| 21:04.12 | cgwyllie | righto |
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| 21:07.21 | cgwyllie | hello agai |
| 21:07.26 | LinuxNIT | hello |
| 21:07.29 | LinuxNIT | and? |
| 21:07.30 | cgwyllie | it didn't work |
| 21:07.33 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 21:07.35 | keyra | cgwyllie: hi |
| 21:07.41 | cgwyllie | it failed with these lines: |
| 21:08.02 | cgwyllie | becoming entranced: entranceentranced: main display number is 0 |
| 21:08.33 | cgwyllie | then: entranced_ipc_init: failed to open socket /var/lib/entrance/entrance_ipc_5004 |
| 21:09.52 | LinuxNIT | i got one more thing to try |
| 21:09.56 | LinuxNIT | cp /etc/entrance_config.cfg /root/ |
| 21:10.08 | LinuxNIT | sh /usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh -c /etc/entrance_config.cfg |
| 21:10.24 | LinuxNIT | if that dont do it i dunno :-/ |
| 21:10.31 | cgwyllie | ok |
| 21:12.14 | cgwyllie | k i'll give it a go thanks, brb |
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| 21:13.36 | LinuxNIT | ... |
| 21:13.39 | cgwyllie | hmm, nope.... |
| 21:13.42 | cgwyllie | thanks anyway |
| 21:13.48 | cgwyllie | i'll do some more searching |
| 21:13.57 | LinuxNIT | some thing got messed up when you switched back it looks like |
| 21:14.01 | roxville | LinuxNIT, give him the e17 start line |
| 21:14.24 | LinuxNIT | next time you enable tests repo you need to change the theme to the e17-default before restarting |
| 21:14.31 | roxville | the poor boy is working in e16 now |
| 21:14.32 | LinuxNIT | to manually start e17 run this |
| 21:14.38 | keyra | LinuxNIT: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 21:14.41 | LinuxNIT | startx /usr/bin/enlightnement_start |
| 21:15.29 | cgwyllie | thank you much :) |
| 21:15.38 | cgwyllie | that's what I didn't know how to do(start e17) |
| 21:15.43 | cgwyllie | brb once more :P |
| 21:15.46 | roxville | yes cgwyllie that will start e17 for ya |
| 21:16.16 | roxville | i hope he spells it right, though... |
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| 21:17.02 | cgwyllie | hey, thanks now back on e17 |
| 21:17.27 | LinuxNIT | roxville, thats what tab complete is for ;) |
| 21:17.34 | LinuxNIT | youre welcome cgwyllie |
| 21:18.10 | roxville | hehe, true dat |
| 21:25.22 | cgwyllie | tab complete is awesomeness |
| 21:25.30 | roxville | :D |
| 21:25.32 | cgwyllie | and yeh that was a little late |
| 21:25.40 | cgwyllie | but i'm a tad tired |
| 21:25.49 | cgwyllie | ta |
| 21:25.54 | roxville | yw |
| 21:26.16 | roxville | cgwyllie, where you at in the world? |
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| 22:01.59 | Elive_user78 | yo |
| 22:02.43 | LinuxNIT | ... |
| 22:03.52 | cgwyllie | ah... |
| 22:03.56 | cgwyllie | he went.....ghm |
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| 22:17.39 | velixzeen | hello elive people |
| 22:17.53 | keyra | velixzeen: hi |
| 22:18.46 | cgwyllie | hello :) |
| 22:19.31 | velixzeen | I am curious about how many people here do video editing. Is that a common reason for users to choose elive. Or is it for wider ranging reasons. |
| 22:19.39 | velixzeen | ? |
| 22:20.02 | cgwyllie | hmm |
| 22:20.13 | cgwyllie | i've attempted a little video editing... |
| 22:20.21 | THEoracle_ | hey LinuxNIT |
| 22:20.57 | cgwyllie | i found the fact it comes with pretty much every format supported useful :) |
| 22:22.11 | velixzeen | yes that is true, finding codec 'x' is not that exciting. |
| 22:22.48 | velixzeen | I have yet to do any video editing myself |
| 22:23.15 | cgwyllie | hm |
| 22:23.15 | velixzeen | But it is tempting. |
| 22:23.26 | cgwyllie | hmm |
| 22:23.37 | cgwyllie | well i must say i like it for more than vid editors |
| 22:23.58 | THEoracle_ | Elive seems to handle any task very well |
| 22:24.05 | velixzeen | good good |
| 22:24.05 | cgwyllie | it's elegant and very quick.. lotsa keyboard shortcuts make it very easy to use |
| 22:24.15 | THEoracle_ | can't think of anything i can't do |
| 22:24.36 | cgwyllie | and getting software to work's normally really easy because of debian packages/repositories :) |
| 22:24.46 | THEoracle_ | are you runnin Elive velixzeen ? |
| 22:26.23 | velixzeen | I put it on a professor's laptop on Friday. We us debian a lot. I myself do not have it on a box yet. At home it is kanotix x 2 and sidux on the lappy. At work it is etch x a lot of boxes and some fedora boxes. |
| 22:26.32 | velixzeen | us=use |
| 22:26.56 | velixzeen | looking for an install candidate :-) |
| 22:26.59 | cgwyllie | hmm |
| 22:27.07 | THEoracle_ | well what do you and your professor think so far? |
| 22:27.12 | cgwyllie | well i looked at elive because i got fed up of GNOME and KDE... |
| 22:27.23 | velixzeen | yes yes |
| 22:27.27 | THEoracle_ | makes sense |
| 22:27.29 | cgwyllie | and what i found i thought would be temporary. but that was about a year and a half ago :) |
| 22:27.52 | velixzeen | right, stayed with what worked |
| 22:27.54 | THEoracle_ | that sounds kinda like my story cgwyllie |
| 22:28.16 | velixzeen | We have not formed an opinion on elive yet. |
| 22:28.21 | cgwyllie | hmm |
| 22:29.10 | velixzeen | I think I like it, but have not run it much. e16 I have on a gentoo box and a sidux install and it is very cool |
| 22:29.18 | THEoracle_ | let us know when an opinion forms |
| 22:29.27 | velixzeen | yes will do |
| 22:29.34 | THEoracle_ | :-) |
| 22:29.35 | cgwyllie | e17 is much cooler |
| 22:29.50 | THEoracle_ | yes it is |
| 22:29.53 | cgwyllie | i used to use e16 on elive .14 but after 0.5 i kinda can't stand e16 lol |
| 22:29.59 | cgwyllie | o.4 even |
| 22:30.12 | velixzeen | that is helpfull |
| 22:30.26 | velixzeen | I was debating e17/e16 |
| 22:30.36 | cgwyllie | aha |
| 22:31.05 | velixzeen | but since they are both there in gdm it was a short debate |
| 22:31.38 | cgwyllie | gdm? |
| 22:31.58 | velixzeen | I am a little concerned that Tyler (astronomer/professor) will be concerned about spelling grammar errors in some of elive's tools. |
| 22:32.01 | THEoracle_ | gdm? what's that? |
| 22:32.03 | THEoracle_ | lol |
| 22:32.11 | cgwyllie | hmm |
| 22:32.15 | velixzeen | gdm, oops that is not gdm? |
| 22:32.20 | THEoracle_ | thana's new entrance theme is sweet |
| 22:32.23 | cgwyllie | well it's translated so yeh there are a couple of small errors |
| 22:32.30 | THEoracle_ | it is entrance |
| 22:32.37 | velixzeen | ooooh |
| 22:32.37 | cgwyllie | but nothing too bad and everything's always understandable |
| 22:32.50 | cgwyllie | aah |
| 22:32.51 | keyra | cgwyllie: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/ |
| 22:32.53 | cgwyllie | cool |
| 22:33.16 | velixzeen | yes, it gives me a chuckle. So what translates? |
| 22:33.21 | velixzeen | who translates? |
| 22:33.28 | cgwyllie | i'm not sure.... |
| 22:34.07 | velixzeen | yes that entrance is cool, will be googling around for that! |
| 22:34.14 | cgwyllie | they're getting ironed out though, i've not found one in a while |
| 22:34.21 | THEoracle_ | it's part of e17 |
| 22:34.42 | velixzeen | ah, I see. |
| 22:35.46 | velixzeen | makes sense, it strikes me that there is a lot of possible ways to use entrance, like enlightenment. very very configurable? |
| 22:36.00 | THEoracle_ | very very |
| 22:37.06 | THEoracle_ | here are some so you can see how they look http://www0.get-e.org/Themes/Entrance/ |
| 22:37.14 | cgwyllie | it just looks so cool too :P lol |
| 22:38.05 | THEoracle_ | don't it tho |
| 22:38.09 | LinuxNIT | hey THEoracle_ |
| 22:38.10 | THEoracle_ | brb |
| 22:38.17 | velixzeen | thanks having a look now. wow |
| 22:38.17 | THEoracle_ | hey |
| 22:38.51 | LinuxNIT | did you get the pms? |
| 22:38.51 | THEoracle_ | there is a staff member on |
| 22:38.55 | THEoracle_ | yes |
| 22:39.00 | THEoracle_ | how do i contact? |
| 22:39.25 | LinuxNIT | did you get a staffers name? |
| 22:39.30 | LinuxNIT | just pm a staffer |
| 22:39.30 | THEoracle_ | i do |
| 22:39.41 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.38 | THEoracle_ | lol |
| 22:40.58 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 22:44.20 | velixzeen | So here is a bad question, but say Tyler says ney on e16/e17. If we install kde or fluxbox, what will entrance do? It can't see kde or fluxbox I assume, and offer that as a wm? |
| 22:44.57 | velixzeen | I should read some docs, I know . . . |
| 22:45.10 | cgwyllie | if you would do that you may as well just put debian etch on it and install kde or gnome |
| 22:45.31 | cgwyllie | the whole kinda point of elive is for enlightenment WM :P lol |
| 22:45.56 | cgwyllie | i'm not sure what entrance would do though... |
| 22:45.58 | LinuxNIT | velixzeen, it can... im not sure how you set it up to on the default version of e17 but on the version in the tests repo it will bring them up on its own i believe |
| 22:46.10 | LinuxNIT | THEoracle, did you get registered? |
| 22:46.12 | keyra | LinuxNIT: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 22:46.38 | LinuxNIT | but you have to set entrance to use the e17-defualt theme for it to work |
| 22:46.48 | THEoracle | yes i did i think |
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| 22:46.54 | THEoracle | check for me will you |
| 22:47.02 | velixzeen | cgwyllie: yes, make sense, which is why it is attractive in the first place. |
| 22:47.12 | LinuxNIT | THEoracle, you have to identify as well |
| 22:49.40 | velixzeen | darn wish I had Gem installed here at home to play with. Taking some notes on entrance advice. many thanks. |
| 22:50.13 | cgwyllie | can you not put Gem on your home machine to play with? |
| 22:50.25 | LinuxNIT | no problem |
| 22:51.17 | THEoracle | now i am "officially" official thanks to LinuxNIT |
| 22:51.20 | THEoracle | :-) |
| 22:51.25 | velixzeen | I have a test box that I play with, the other two my family uses quite a bit so they are off limits. |
| 22:51.42 | velixzeen | But the monitor died, so . . . |
| 22:52.16 | velixzeen | I am trying to make an meter to test caps and then use it to fix it. |
| 22:52.29 | cgwyllie | officially official? |
| 22:52.49 | THEoracle | registered my nick |
| 22:52.50 | cgwyllie | aah, unlucky |
| 22:52.53 | THEoracle | sorry |
| 22:52.55 | cgwyllie | oh right :P |
| 22:53.13 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 22:53.38 | velixzeen | congrats LinuxNIT |
| 22:54.51 | velixzeen | thanks for the chat, back soon. Cheers! |
| 22:55.07 | LinuxNIT | laters velixzeen \ |
| 22:55.36 | THEoracle | later velixzeen |
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| 23:21.04 | cgwyllie | cheerio folks |
| 23:21.16 | cgwyllie | has been nice to meet some of you and thanks for the help :) |
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