IRC log for #elive on 20070702

`00:21.40`	`*** join/#elive maximiliano (n=maximili@190.55.103.191)`
`00:30.54`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user42 (n=Elive_us@catv-59846935.catv.broadband.hu)`
`00:35.35`	`*** join/#elive hilltop (n=hilltop@cpe-66-75-240-213.san.res.rr.com)`
`00:54.07`	`DvineLord`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1e8oM3gIoQ&NR=1`
`01:17.05`	`*** join/#elive Thybo (n=Thybo@190.42.49.146)`
`01:49.52`	`*** join/#elive Pacma (n=Pacma@62.57.81.52.dyn.user.ono.com)`
`01:50.15`	`Pacma`	`sinplomo:`
`01:50.17`	`Pacma`	`estas`
`01:50.38`	`Pacma`	`join #e-es`
`01:54.24`	`*** join/#elive Bryanstein (n=Bryanste@24-217-192-69.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)`
`01:58.00`	`*** join/#elive jonakeys (n=Jonathan@h8922042239.dsl.speedlinq.nl)`
`02:00.12`	`Thybo`	`ubuntu`
`02:00.22`	`*** join/#elive anon32 (i=anon32@wikipedia/anon32)`
`02:00.37`	`anon32`	`eh?`
`02:00.48`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user7 (n=Elive_us@host-11-232-9-69.midco.net)`
`02:00.56`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:00.59`	`Thybo`	`hey anon32 :)`
`02:01.00`	`Thybo`	`hmm`
`02:01.08`	`Thybo`	`or maybe they took the bot off`
`02:01.14`	`Thybo`	`apt kiss anon32`
`02:01.14`	`apt`	`ACTION forces anon32 to give yawlright_ a big kiss on the ear`
`02:01.17`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:01.19`	`Elive_user7`	`im having trouble with the elive gem installer freezing up on me`
`02:01.28`	`Thybo`	`Elive_user7, at what moment?`
`02:01.32`	`anon32`	`what's elive anyway?`
`02:01.33`	`Elive_user7`	`is this a common bug?`
`02:01.45`	`Thybo`	`www.elivecd.org anon32 :)`
`02:01.46`	`Elive_user7`	`about 15% through the install`
`02:01.49`	`Thybo`	`hmm`
`02:01.50`	`Thybo`	`no`
`02:01.57`	`Thybo`	`have u done the cd checkup proposed?`
`02:02.14`	`Elive_user7`	`i get a window that popsup, but nothing in it, then lockup`
`02:02.22`	`anon32`	`uh.... e17? lol`
`02:02.32`	`Thybo`	`anon32, yes :)`
`02:02.37`	`Thybo`	`u on windows?`
`02:02.44`	`Thybo`	`Elive_user7...`
`02:02.52`	`Thybo`	`when u run the install`
`02:02.59`	`Thybo`	`you have somehting that tells you`
`02:03.23`	`Thybo`	`"you can now verify the cd integrity. blababa takes about 10 minutes " and you can click yes or no`
`02:03.25`	`Thybo`	`did you do it?`
`02:03.31`	`Elive_user7`	`yes`
`02:04.05`	`anon32`	`is who on Windows?`
`02:04.06`	`Elive_user7`	`i am re-running it now`
`02:04.17`	`Thybo`	`did it tell you that it had no problem?`
`02:04.20`	`Thybo`	`you, anon32 :)`
`02:04.24`	`Elive_user7`	`yes`
`02:04.29`	`Thybo`	`its a question`
`02:04.35`	`Thybo`	`Elive_user7, hmm weird`
`02:04.37`	`anon32`	`oh, no, though I do have it on another partition`
`02:04.42`	`Thybo`	`what is your computer`
`02:04.43`	`Elive_user7`	`Ill re run it now`
`02:04.46`	`Thybo`	`anon32, debian?`
`02:04.52`	`anon32`	`Gaybuntu`
`02:04.59`	`Thybo`	`Elive_user7, ok tell me when its done :)`
`02:05.09`	`Thybo`	`ahhaha poor man anon32 ;)`
`02:05.19`	`Thybo`	`nah its a good distro i guess:)`
`02:05.26`	`Thybo`	`but here`
`02:05.27`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, !!!`
`02:05.32`	`Thybo`	`u get sort of kicked if u say that`
`02:05.33`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:05.34`	`Thybo`	`see?`
`02:05.36`	`anon32`	`the support channels are run by assholes though, I'm permabanned from both`
`02:05.39`	`Elive_user7`	`debian etch works quite well, as good as ubuntu`
`02:05.41`	`Thybo`	`DaRtH_VaDeR, sorry i didn'tmean it loool`
`02:05.49`	`anon32`	`wait? I can get kicked for saying Ubuntu? ciik`
`02:05.52`	`anon32`	`cool*`
`02:05.55`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, hello xD`
`02:06.10`	`keyra`	`DaRtH_VaDeR: hi`
`02:06.17`	`Thybo`	`hey DaRtH_VaDeR :)`
`02:06.18`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:06.22`	`Thybo`	`lool`
`02:06.28`	`Thybo`	`anon32, no but usually keyra says`
`02:06.35`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`keyra, i hate u`
`02:06.38`	`Thybo`	`anon32, Ubuntu is off-topic`
`02:06.43`	`Thybo`	`keyra, i hate you too :)`
`02:06.47`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`viva la cerveza aguila :)`
`02:07.24`	`Thybo`	`jajaja`
`02:07.32`	`Thybo`	`ah igual DaRtH_VaDeR ya estoy en peru`
`02:07.33`	`Thybo`	`:p`
`02:07.37`	`Thybo`	`no creo que hay`
`02:07.39`	`Thybo`	`aqui`
`02:07.42`	`Thybo`	`no hay costena`
`02:07.46`	`Thybo`	`hay cuzquena`
`02:07.47`	`Thybo`	`aajajaja`
`02:08.04`	`anon32`	`elive's page says that there are a whopping.... 260 packages available`
`02:08.05`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`jajaajaj`
`02:08.08`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`pero es bavaria!`
`02:08.23`	`Thybo`	`si?`
`02:08.28`	`Thybo`	`cuzquenia es bavaria?`
`02:08.31`	`Elive_user7`	`Thybo: reports a damaged download`
`02:08.35`	`Thybo`	`ahhh`
`02:08.43`	`Thybo`	`Elive_user7, i guess you'll have to redownload it`
`02:08.48`	`Elive_user7`	`I dont feal like paying to download it again`
`02:08.57`	`anon32`	`lol, suck up`
`02:08.58`	`Thybo`	`you might want to use a download manager`
`02:09.13`	`Elive_user7`	`i did firefox download manager`
`02:09.25`	`anon32`	`lol.... that don't count`
`02:09.50`	`Elive_user7`	`indiana U server`
`02:10.00`	`Elive_user7`	`bad file is my guess`
`02:10.11`	`Elive_user7`	`my downloads never get corrupted`
`02:10.19`	`Thybo`	`hmm`
`02:10.28`	`Thybo`	`i would like to explain that to u`
`02:10.35`	`Thybo`	`but i'm afraid im uncapable of it`
`02:10.42`	`Thybo`	`do u run windows?`
`02:10.55`	`Elive_user7`	`got a link to download without paying again?`
`02:11.03`	`Thybo`	`nope`
`02:11.22`	`anon32`	`you have to pay to download? wtf?`
`02:11.33`	`Elive_user7`	`so called donation lol`
`02:11.48`	`Thybo`	`hhe`
`02:11.53`	`Elive_user7`	`good thing i only donated 50 cents hehe`
`02:11.58`	`Thybo`	`go to the download page anon32 ull see`
`02:12.13`	`Thybo`	`i donate 10 € eacht time i download`
`02:12.23`	`Thybo`	`the dev is a great guy puting all his time in this`
`02:12.28`	`Thybo`	`doing it alone`
`02:12.29`	`Elive_user7`	`then i should get four more downloads`
`02:12.43`	`Thybo`	`why?`
`02:12.47`	`Thybo`	`10 euros lol`
`02:12.50`	`Elive_user7`	`he needs help me thinks`
`02:12.52`	`Thybo`	`13 dollars`
`02:12.52`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, la cerveceria de peru, fue comprada por bavaria hace a�os, ahora todo es sab miller`
`02:12.58`	`Thybo`	`jajjaa`
`02:13.03`	`Thybo`	`ah bueno no sabia`
`02:13.07`	`Thybo`	`sab miller de donde es?`
`02:14.14`	`Thybo`	`Elive_user7, if you want to help i'm sure he'll be glad`
`02:14.15`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, sur africa`
`02:14.19`	`Thybo`	`i have a link to .6.9 only`
`02:14.23`	`Thybo`	`ah`
`02:14.25`	`Thybo`	`paila jeje`
`02:14.37`	`anon32`	`um, lol, I'm not paying for Linux :-)`
`02:14.39`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, bavaria tiene ahora el 35% de esa cerveceria, y es la tercera mas grande del mundo`
`02:14.56`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`anon32, free doesnt mean gratis ^^`
`02:14.58`	`Thybo`	`jeje`
`02:15.07`	`Thybo`	`anon32, its a choice :)`
`02:15.10`	`anon32`	`DaRtH_VaDeR, to me it does`
`02:15.10`	`Thybo`	`ure not paying for linu`
`02:15.22`	`Thybo`	`anon32, the dev shouldn't be the one paying for the server`
`02:15.27`	`Thybo`	`should he?`
`02:15.28`	`Thybo`	`:s`
`02:16.21`	`*** part/#elive anon32 (i=anon32@wikipedia/anon32)`
`02:16.44`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`damn`
`02:16.45`	`Bryanstein`	`hey guys`
`02:16.51`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`god doesnt pay bills!`
`02:16.57`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:17.07`	`Bryanstein`	`anyoone in here sampled the openoffice bonus disk?`
`02:17.34`	`Thybo`	`nope`
`02:17.36`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`nop`
`02:17.39`	`Bryanstein`	`GPLGeek, have you tested the open office bonus disk ?`
`02:17.48`	`Thybo`	`i download latest french version coz its the only one in .deb`
`02:17.52`	`Thybo`	`and im french (h)`
`02:17.53`	`GPLGeek`	`No`
`02:17.59`	`GPLGeek`	`I have not tried it yet`
`02:18.16`	`GPLGeek`	`Is there a problem or any reason I should test it? I can ask to check out a copy`
`02:18.17`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, sabes si la siguiente testing de elive vendra con paquetes de lenny ?`
`02:19.02`	`Bryanstein`	`ok...I acutally have it on another system just never installed it...I am helping with this review and wanted to know something`
`02:19.10`	`Thybo`	`GPLGeek, do u think next elive testing will come with lenny packages?`
`02:19.14`	`Bryanstein`	`no there isn't a problem but thanks for the help`
`02:20.21`	`GPLGeek`	`Honestly I've been dealing with new features, not existing featuers. Thana's been really the only one to put much work into the bonus disks as far as I know`
`02:20.46`	`GPLGeek`	`Thybo, we will use etch packages, and as needed we will download our own source and compile them into .debs`
`02:20.55`	`GPLGeek`	`we probably won't use lenny for some time.`
`02:21.08`	`Thybo`	`DaRtH_VaDeR, ya esta su respuesta`
`02:21.08`	`Thybo`	`:)`
`02:21.08`	`GPLGeek`	`but we can still have cutting edge packages and stability!`
`02:21.13`	`Thybo`	`:)`
`02:21.14`	`Thybo`	`yeah`
`02:21.22`	`Thybo`	`GPLGeek, why not integrate into the repos`
`02:21.24`	`Thybo`	`somelike`
`02:21.27`	`Thybo`	`skype`
`02:21.29`	`Thybo`	`wine`
`02:21.32`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`yes`
`02:21.39`	`Elive_user7`	`yuck yuck, just found gem in binaries`
`02:21.53`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`wine is upgrading day by day`
`02:21.59`	`Elive_user7`	`blah to spending money on corrupt downloads`
`02:22.06`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`and etch on wine is in an old version`
`02:22.17`	`Thybo`	`i update from wine repos :)`
`02:22.32`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, i had the cvs version`
`02:22.34`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`xD`
`02:22.51`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`02:23.06`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`but now i am on debian sid, tomorrow i will install elive gem (the old version) on my brother's pc`
`02:23.13`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:23.22`	`Thybo`	`the old vesion doesn't change from new`
`02:23.28`	`Thybo`	`except a flash thing i thinkg`
`02:23.33`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`just the flash`
`02:23.35`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user42 (n=Elive_us@cpe-76-185-214-47.tx.res.rr.com)`
`02:23.37`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`exactly!`
`02:23.38`	`Thybo`	`yeah`
`02:23.39`	`Thybo`	`and`
`02:23.46`	`Thybo`	`the powernowd issue hehe`
`02:23.52`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`yes!`
`02:23.53`	`Thybo`	`but with a little patience passes on hehe`
`02:23.58`	`Thybo`	`and on install notrace:)`
`02:24.00`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`damn powernowd i hate it!`
`02:24.03`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:24.08`	`DvineLord`	`is there a graphical way of mounting a usb device?`
`02:24.11`	`Thybo`	`ah come on u got 5 mins lol`
`02:24.15`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user76 (n=Elive_us@user-0c2hilm.cable.mindspring.com)`
`02:24.15`	`Thybo`	`hmmm`
`02:24.24`	`Thybo`	`well DvineLord in elive u plug it in`
`02:24.28`	`Thybo`	`and it automounts:)`
`02:24.33`	`DvineLord`	`hrm`
`02:24.36`	`DvineLord`	`the light isnt on`
`02:24.39`	`Thybo`	`than right click and unmount to unmount it`
`02:25.11`	`DvineLord`	`na`
`02:25.15`	`DvineLord`	`doesnt show up`
`02:25.59`	`Thybo`	`hmm`
`02:26.03`	`Thybo`	`than problem with usb`
`02:26.10`	`Thybo`	`device or usb card on your comp`
`02:26.13`	`DvineLord`	`lmao`
`02:26.14`	`DvineLord`	`nm`
`02:26.15`	`DvineLord`	`im stupid`
`02:26.25`	`hilltop`	`Bryanstein, hello. Figure anything out about the nVidia?`
`02:26.40`	`keyra`	`hilltop: hi`
`02:26.42`	`DvineLord`	`i forgot i didnt have the front mount plugged in`
`02:26.42`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`02:27.01`	`Thybo`	`loool`
`02:27.07`	`Bryanstein`	`lol haha...just been doing other things...sure haven't but I took a nap and was having nightmares about it`
`02:27.10`	`Thybo`	`way to go DvineLord this is what irc is for lool`
`02:27.12`	`Bryanstein`	`seriously`
`02:27.22`	`DvineLord`	`too bad ill probably have to use wine if u wanna do any moto hacking`
`02:27.27`	`DvineLord`	`hah`
`02:27.30`	`Bryanstein`	`I was dreaming I was changing the resolution and it wasn't working`
`02:27.40`	`hilltop`	`:)`
`02:27.40`	`Thybo`	`what is moto hacking?`
`02:27.40`	`DvineLord`	`hah`
`02:27.46`	`DvineLord`	`motorola phones and such`
`02:27.47`	`Thybo`	`lool Bryanstein`
`02:27.50`	`Thybo`	`did you wake up?`
`02:27.51`	`DvineLord`	`seem editting`
`02:28.01`	`DvineLord`	`unlocking settings that arent usually shown up on the phone`
`02:28.03`	`Bryanstein`	`Ahhh the V3 seem hacks`
`02:28.08`	`DvineLord`	`yea`
`02:28.14`	`DvineLord`	`i got a v600 i mess with alot`
`02:28.20`	`DvineLord`	`there are sooooooo many options`
`02:28.26`	`DvineLord`	`it breaks my head sometimes`
`02:28.27`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`02:28.32`	`*** part/#elive batden (n=Elive_us@AStDenis-105-1-67-30.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`02:28.48`	`Bryanstein`	`oh yes those are some units, but you come close to killing the little boogers many times`
`02:28.52`	`DvineLord`	`cause what i wanna do is clear out all the bs i dont want`
`02:29.04`	`DvineLord`	`then change all the calls to the stuff i deleted so the phone doesnt waste time looking fori t`
`02:29.19`	`keyra`	`DvineLord: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System`
`02:29.40`	`DvineLord`	`then i wanna make it so i can do master clear/master reset but still retain my custom settings`
`02:29.51`	`DvineLord`	`i actually did a full format`
`02:29.52`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user12 (n=Elive_us@189.145.76.143)`
`02:29.54`	`DvineLord`	`all the zones were deleted`
`02:29.57`	`Bryanstein`	`well just use qemu if the apps don't work in wine`
`02:30.04`	`Bryanstein`	`lol`
`02:30.05`	`DvineLord`	`but i got a custom pds.bin thatll revive phones`
`02:30.15`	`DvineLord`	`so all i needa do is load bootloader`
`02:30.19`	`DvineLord`	`then monsterpack`
`02:30.25`	`DvineLord`	`then custom pds.bin`
`02:30.28`	`DvineLord`	`and it works again`
`02:30.51`	`DvineLord`	`should work on any triplets phone`
`02:31.02`	`Bryanstein`	`hmmm I've bricked many devices and had to jtag em to get em back up`
`02:31.15`	`DvineLord`	`u talkin about cable modems now?`
`02:31.33`	`DvineLord`	`ive only heard jtag in relation to cable modems`
`02:31.35`	`Bryanstein`	`routers, modems, WAP's`
`02:31.38`	`DvineLord`	`yea`
`02:31.39`	`DvineLord`	`hah`
`02:31.43`	`Bryanstein`	`phones too`
`02:31.48`	`DvineLord`	`i tried doin snmp settings`
`02:31.49`	`Bryanstein`	`oh yes PDA's`
`02:31.54`	`DvineLord`	`to allow a sb4100 to be flashed`
`02:32.04`	`DvineLord`	`but i couldnt get the snmp settings to autoupdate`
`02:32.08`	`DvineLord`	`only on reboot`
`02:32.18`	`Bryanstein`	`I'm an snmp freak`
`02:32.30`	`DvineLord`	`i sorta of enjoyed it`
`02:32.36`	`Bryanstein`	`lol sorta`
`02:32.38`	`DvineLord`	`besides doin something that wouldnt work`
`02:32.48`	`DvineLord`	`bitfile method`
`02:32.58`	`Bryanstein`	`well it works..If two people got it to work...then it works`
`02:33.21`	`DvineLord`	`well from all my searching no one actually got it to work with the firmware on that modem`
`02:33.22`	`Bryanstein`	`hilltop, we are going to see what PrinceAMD says when he shows up`
`02:33.26`	`DvineLord`	`without a cable`
`02:33.36`	`Bryanstein`	`he has Nvidia too`
`02:34.06`	`Bryanstein`	`well that is really the way to do it...build a jtag cable and slap it in the parellel port`
`02:34.24`	`DvineLord`	`but then i gotta open the modem and solder stuff`
`02:34.30`	`Bryanstein`	`I put Linux on a Tmobile sidekick`
`02:34.43`	`Bryanstein`	`yea so what it's easy...solder it once and you are done`
`02:34.58`	`Bryanstein`	`a few points maybe 4 depending on your device`
`02:35.17`	`DvineLord`	`id like to work for motoroal`
`02:35.21`	`DvineLord`	`motorola`
`02:35.24`	`DvineLord`	`so fun to mess with moto stuff`
`02:35.36`	`DvineLord`	`id like true moto utils though`
`02:35.50`	`Bryanstein`	`the guy I got the Tmobile hack from started working for the designer of the phone`
`02:35.52`	`Bryanstein`	`Danger`
`02:36.11`	`DvineLord`	`see thats why id like to do that`
`02:36.17`	`DvineLord`	`cause of hacking the stuff`
`02:36.23`	`Bryanstein`	`as soon as you think you've done something special then along comes a guy like him`
`02:36.28`	`DvineLord`	`im gonna install elive on this thumbdrive`
`02:36.31`	`DvineLord`	`is that gonna work?`
`02:36.47`	`DvineLord`	`well thats the same for everything`
`02:37.07`	`DvineLord`	`there is always someone that has done more then u or took a different route then u`
`02:37.22`	`keyra`	`DvineLord: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/`
`02:37.54`	`Bryanstein`	`well especially electronic engineers...they tend to know their hardware`
`02:38.33`	`DvineLord`	`how does that help me keyra?`
`02:38.47`	`keyra`	`DvineLord: help ? hey, im not a bot! lol`
`02:38.59`	`Bryanstein`	`gotta get back to editing this review`
`02:39.03`	`Bryanstein`	`lol`
`02:39.05`	`DvineLord`	`hah`
`02:39.07`	`DvineLord`	`yes she is`
`02:39.22`	`DvineLord`	`is that a fembot or bobot?`
`02:39.41`	`Bryanstein`	`keyra was romancing me the other day`
`02:39.46`	`DvineLord`	`hah`
`02:40.00`	`Bryanstein`	`who taught her to do it I don't know`
`02:40.05`	`Bryanstein`	`gotta go brb`
`02:40.11`	`DvineLord`	`i needa find food`
`02:40.18`	`DvineLord`	`will meebo work with elive?`
`02:40.22`	`*** join/#elive maximiliano (n=maximili@190.55.103.191)`
`02:40.31`	`DvineLord`	`from the live cd`
`02:41.55`	`hilltop`	`Bryanstein, OK`
`02:42.06`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, yes meebo works with elive even from livecd`
`02:42.15`	`Thybo`	`but why bother when amsn works from livecd too?;)`
`02:42.15`	`DvineLord`	`koo`
`02:42.21`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, sera que si le hago un upgrade a elive desde los repos de sid no se da�a ? xD`
`02:42.26`	`DvineLord`	`i perfer pidgin`
`02:42.32`	`DvineLord`	`and amsn only does msn right`
`02:42.48`	`DvineLord`	`also i was reading about amsn aging tk widget set`
`02:42.57`	`DvineLord`	`and personally i do find it sorta ugly`
`02:42.58`	`Thybo`	`jajajaja DaRtH_VaDeR por supuesto que no hagalo y cuentame jajajaja`
`02:43.13`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, why?`
`02:43.14`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:43.18`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`xD`
`02:43.21`	`DvineLord`	`the fonts and such`
`02:43.39`	`DvineLord`	`but still`
`02:43.41`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`me voy a hacer algun tema para el bootsplash de elive :D`
`02:43.49`	`DvineLord`	`does it do aim,yahoo,msn,icq,etc?`
`02:44.05`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, amsn? no but gaim does :)`
`02:44.13`	`DvineLord`	`yep`
`02:44.19`	`Thybo`	`ah DaRtH_VaDeR mandamelo despues`
`02:44.40`	`DaRtH_VaDeR`	`Thybo, si logro que funcione si :P`
`02:44.41`	`DvineLord`	`why was gaim2.0.0beta included and not pidgin?`
`02:45.02`	`Thybo`	`hmm`
`02:45.05`	`Thybo`	`ah`
`02:45.06`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`02:45.09`	`Thybo`	`same thing no?`
`02:45.27`	`DvineLord`	`different`
`02:45.30`	`DvineLord`	`alot different`
`02:45.31`	`DvineLord`	`imo`
`02:45.33`	`Thybo`	`gaim is olod name for pidgin`
`02:45.35`	`Thybo`	`):`
`02:45.41`	`DvineLord`	`they changed ui alot`
`02:45.47`	`Thybo`	`for all i know only name changes`
`02:45.51`	`Thybo`	`gui=skin :)`
`02:45.52`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`02:45.53`	`DvineLord`	`and updated all the plugins and i assume where shit is updated`
`02:45.58`	`Thybo`	`thtas gtk2 man ;)`
`02:46.10`	`DvineLord`	`i guess so`
`02:47.16`	`DvineLord`	`any of yall like entheogens?`
`02:48.28`	`Thybo`	`whats entheogens lol`
`02:49.03`	`DvineLord`	`plants that allow u to connect to spirit`
`02:49.06`	`Thybo`	`lool`
`02:49.10`	`Thybo`	`here theres a lot of this :)`
`02:49.20`	`Thybo`	`its a cactus though...`
`02:49.22`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`02:49.28`	`DvineLord`	`where u at?`
`02:49.36`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, actually in peru :)`
`02:49.41`	`DvineLord`	`sweet`
`02:49.44`	`Thybo`	`cool :)`
`02:49.51`	`DvineLord`	`i wanted to go there for a ayahuasca spiritquest`
`02:50.05`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`02:50.08`	`DvineLord`	`i just dont have the money to get down there`
`02:50.12`	`Thybo`	`if u go within 2 months tell me :)`
`02:50.13`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`02:50.21`	`Thybo`	`be back in 40 or so`
`02:50.23`	`Thybo`	`dinner time:)`
`02:50.30`	`DvineLord`	`i found a place that i could order shaman brewed ayahuasca`
`02:50.39`	`DvineLord`	`but im scared to do it without a guide`
`02:50.43`	`Thybo`	`probably in all villages though`
`02:50.53`	`Thybo`	`told u within 2 months im your man;)`
`02:50.55`	`Thybo`	`c u :)`
`02:51.20`	`DvineLord`	`can u get me out there?`
`02:58.07`	`DvineLord`	`is there a handler for windows style .url files?`
`02:58.25`	`DvineLord`	`only complete basic url handling would work`
`03:18.59`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user13 (n=Elive_us@host-11-232-9-69.midco.net)`
`03:19.40`	`Elive_user13`	`just downloaded gem from newsgroups, same error message on cd check, seems elive gem is no gem at all`
`03:20.15`	`Elive_user13`	`same error as the pay download, grrrr`
`03:20.47`	`Elive_user13`	`md5 sum was correct`
`03:21.11`	`GPLGeek`	`elive_user13 , We've had people being assholes and putting out bad ISOs`
`03:21.22`	`GPLGeek`	`some are named elive gem 1.0, but are really just renamed ubuntu cds`
`03:21.31`	`GPLGeek`	`others are remastered elive cds with a ton of porn and advertisments`
`03:21.35`	`GPLGeek`	`some just dont work`
`03:21.48`	`Elive_user13`	`ya right, indiana U server has it to, the asshole is the person who uploaded a bad cd image`
`03:21.57`	`GPLGeek`	`I'd strongly reccomend making sure the iso MD5s to 7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso`
`03:22.11`	`GPLGeek`	`what did yours have in it?`
`03:22.16`	`Bryanstein`	`What errors`
`03:22.19`	`GPLGeek`	`password stealers? or advertisments? or what?`
`03:22.20`	`Elive_user13`	`yep, thats the correct md5 i verified it`
`03:22.30`	`Bryanstein`	`oh cd check`
`03:22.33`	`GPLGeek`	`if the ISO md5's to that then you will be ok`
`03:22.42`	`Bryanstein`	`well how are you burning it`
`03:22.48`	`GPLGeek`	`beyond that burn at 8x or lower if your cd is having a problem`
`03:22.54`	`GPLGeek`	`and finalize disk`
`03:23.05`	`Elive_user13`	`gnomebaker`
`03:23.14`	`Bryanstein`	`yep and verify it...there are other points of failure beyond the iso`
`03:23.38`	`Elive_user13`	`well im a little po'd i paid for this freaking distro, and it doesnt work`
`03:23.43`	`Bryanstein`	`what speed did you burn it at`
`03:23.44`	`Bryanstein`	`?`
`03:23.50`	`Bryanstein`	`It works no doubt`
`03:24.21`	`Elive_user13`	`the servers have corrupted files then, i wont be using this distro thats for sure, very very sloppy work boys`
`03:24.46`	`roxville`	`ok...`
`03:24.49`	`GPLGeek`	`fuck him`
`03:24.53`	`Bryanstein`	`lol he's stupid`
`03:24.55`	`GPLGeek`	`hes probably one of those ubuntu freaks`
`03:24.58`	`Bryanstein`	`thanks for the donation`
`03:25.14`	`GPLGeek`	`he said he got it from a newsgroup`
`03:25.19`	`Bryanstein`	`he burned it at 48 speed`
`03:25.36`	`Bryanstein`	`I know he didn't properly burn it`
`03:25.52`	`Bryanstein`	`no such thing as an md5sum that sums out correct and the cd fails the check`
`03:26.03`	`Bryanstein`	`either the media or the writer`
`03:26.19`	`Bryanstein`	`most likely improper burn`
`03:26.29`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`03:26.39`	`Bryanstein`	`You see he didn't say much after we talked about the burn`
`03:26.48`	`Bryanstein`	`he's going to reburn it and come back lol`
`03:27.01`	`DvineLord`	`hrm`
`03:27.06`	`DvineLord`	`i got 3 different elive isos`
`03:27.07`	`Bryanstein`	`no way you download and iso and delete it after one try`
`03:27.12`	`DvineLord`	`but they are all really elive`
`03:27.19`	`DvineLord`	`from the mirror sites`
`03:27.33`	`DvineLord`	`and they all md5 check on the iso and internally`
`03:28.01`	`DvineLord`	`i think im using the topic iso`
`03:28.02`	`DvineLord`	`im not sure`
`03:28.08`	`DvineLord`	`i forgot the label the disks`
`03:28.09`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`03:28.13`	`GPLGeek`	`He's just a FUD guy`
`03:28.20`	`GPLGeek`	`don't worry`
`03:28.21`	`DvineLord`	`FUD`
`03:28.24`	`DvineLord`	`what is FUD?`
`03:28.35`	`GPLGeek`	`anyone who cares wouldn't come and spend 15 seconds just to insult us and leave`
`03:28.43`	`DvineLord`	`oh`
`03:28.47`	`GPLGeek`	`FUD fear uncertenty and ....`
`03:28.53`	`DvineLord`	`i personally think the other iso might be better`
`03:29.00`	`GPLGeek`	`and dickheads who work for microsoft`
`03:29.35`	`DvineLord`	`9ba75d816a5abd80fd227076407137ae Elive_1.0_Gem.iso`
`03:29.37`	`DvineLord`	`that one`
`03:29.47`	`DvineLord`	`seein as the previous two are the same size`
`03:29.55`	`DvineLord`	`and this one is a little larger`
`03:29.58`	`DvineLord`	`and its newer`
`03:30.43`	`roxville`	`<GPLGeek> FUD fear uncertenty and ...doubt`
`03:31.15`	`GPLGeek`	`or that`
`03:31.21`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:31.37`	`DvineLord`	`Thybo`
`03:31.38`	`GPLGeek`	`7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso is the one that thanatermesis wants us to use, until hes next one comes out`
`03:31.41`	`DvineLord`	`u get my msg?`
`03:31.46`	`GPLGeek`	`did he come out with a newer one ?`
`03:31.52`	`DvineLord`	`yes`
`03:31.53`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, wow what message?`
`03:31.54`	`Thybo`	`pm?`
`03:31.57`	`GPLGeek`	`oh dang`
`03:32.03`	`DvineLord`	`yea`
`03:32.06`	`DvineLord`	`9ba75d816a5abd80fd227076407137ae Elive_1.0_Gem.iso`
`03:32.08`	`DvineLord`	`that one`
`03:32.16`	`Thybo`	`yh`
`03:32.17`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:32.26`	`Thybo`	`suppose i do know`
`03:32.31`	`Thybo`	`what do i do with it ?:d`
`03:36.48`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord?:)`
`03:37.03`	`DvineLord`	`yea`
`03:37.13`	`DvineLord`	`so u get my pms or not?`
`03:37.23`	`Thybo`	`ure private messages, i get none`
`03:37.26`	`Thybo`	`are u registered?`
`03:39.03`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, don't get more messages`
`03:39.43`	`DvineLord`	`no`
`03:39.49`	`hilltop`	`Does elive 1.0 have a check the cd in the boot opitons? I don't want to reboot to see. I burn my CDs with k3b that has a read and check after burn.`
`03:39.50`	`DvineLord`	`damnit`
`03:39.55`	`DvineLord`	`i just read the status window`
`03:39.58`	`Thybo`	`if u are not registered u can't send pm`
`03:40.31`	`Thybo`	`hilltop, no the check cd is inside the install i'm afraid`
`03:40.43`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, go to`
`03:40.46`	`Thybo`	`#elivefun`
`03:41.00`	`roxville`	`<hilltop> Does elive 1.0 have a check the cd in the boot opitons? I don't want to reboot to see. I burn my CDs with k3b that has a read and check after burn.`
`03:41.06`	`DvineLord`	`ok`
`03:41.13`	`DvineLord`	`im using this livecd`
`03:41.13`	`DvineLord`	`0ec3bf0af0c8ed4d3ab787c6bb0634a8 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso`
`03:41.15`	`roxville`	`during install there's a full syscheck option`
`03:41.18`	`DvineLord`	`the one on linuxtracker`
`03:41.24`	`roxville`	`then, just cancel install`
`03:41.24`	`DvineLord`	`but that got taken off the mirros`
`03:41.26`	`DvineLord`	`mirrors`
`03:41.35`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, and?`
`03:41.45`	`DvineLord`	`it checked out`
`03:41.47`	`DvineLord`	`working fine`
`03:42.00`	`DvineLord`	`but the one in topic is the exact same size`
`03:42.14`	`hilltop`	`Is there a CLI program to compute the md5sum of a burned image?`
`03:42.27`	`Thybo`	`hmm`
`03:42.33`	`DvineLord`	`well i know in nero u can verify the burn`
`03:42.40`	`DvineLord`	`nero linux might do that`
`03:42.56`	`DvineLord`	`back in the day i used cd bake oven`
`03:42.59`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, whats your problem?`
`03:42.59`	`DvineLord`	`i think that verified`
`03:43.06`	`Thybo`	`i don't get it lol`
`03:43.09`	`DvineLord`	`oh wit hte pms?`
`03:43.24`	`Thybo`	`yeah`
`03:43.32`	`roxville`	`<hilltop> Is there a CLI program to compute the md5sum of a burned image?`
`03:43.33`	`Thybo`	`don't c u on elivefun:p`
`03:43.50`	`roxville`	`as root: md5sum eliveyadayada.iso`
`03:44.07`	`Thybo`	`roxville, he wants to check the cd`
`03:44.08`	`Thybo`	`:)`
`03:44.12`	`roxville`	`oh...burned...`
`03:44.12`	`Thybo`	`not the image:)`
`03:44.15`	`Thybo`	`;)`
`03:44.15`	`roxville`	`sorry`
`03:44.18`	`Thybo`	`hehe np :p`
`03:44.19`	`DvineLord`	`ive been able to mess with my ntfs partition fine`
`03:44.19`	`hilltop`	`I mean md5 of the burned CD.`
`03:44.20`	`DvineLord`	`im glad`
`03:44.26`	`DvineLord`	`read,write and edit`
`03:44.27`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`03:44.31`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:44.32`	`roxville`	`hmmm it so happens... that i have no idea how to do that`
`03:44.33`	`keyra`	`DvineLord: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by gates for fuck the linux users ? is specially made closed and in a way totally incompatible with all and all standards, don't use it, you lost your time ! (and you data lol)`
`03:44.38`	`DvineLord`	`stfu keyra`
`03:44.40`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`03:44.42`	`Thybo`	`mine was default this way DvineLord :p`
`03:44.51`	`Thybo`	`¡¡¡ ʞɔnɟ ǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʍ`
`03:44.52`	`Thybo`	`:p`
`03:45.00`	`hilltop`	`I think there is a copy cd to iso, that might mean one can check`
`03:45.06`	`Bryanstein`	`lol...just choose verify the data when you burn the cd hilltop`
`03:45.06`	`DvineLord`	`thats koo`
`03:45.26`	`Thybo`	`ǝɹnʇnɟ ǝɥʇ sı ǝpoɔıun`
`03:45.28`	`Thybo`	`:p`
`03:45.31`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`03:45.41`	`Thybo`	`writing this way can be really interesting`
`03:45.45`	`Bryanstein`	`I always verify the iso even though it takes a while, but it's worth it`
`03:45.47`	`roxville`	`hilltop, start the installer... the first thing is the cd check`
`03:45.59`	`keyra`	`Bryanstein: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/`
`03:46.14`	`Thybo`	`apt: kill keyra`
`03:46.14`	`apt`	`ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudoneutrino gun at keyra`
`03:46.23`	`roxville`	`Thybo, wtf is that? how'd you do that?`
`03:46.26`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`03:46.32`	`Thybo`	`cut and paste lol`
`03:46.32`	`hilltop`	`I do that with k3b. I'm thinking of our poor friend, elive-loser13`
`03:46.40`	`Thybo`	`http://www.revfad.com/flip.html`
`03:46.41`	`Thybo`	`:p`
`03:46.46`	`keyra`	`Thybo: http://paste.elivecd.net ?`
`03:46.48`	`roxville`	`hilltop, lol`
`03:46.51`	`hilltop`	`OK, roxville.`
`03:46.53`	`Thybo`	`ǝɥǝɥ pɹɐɥ os ʇou s,ʇı`
`03:46.54`	`DvineLord`	`yea im guessing id like to use k3b`
`03:46.55`	`Bryanstein`	`oh he was just in a rush to say a whole lot of nothing`
`03:46.57`	`roxville`	`i feel really bad for him...really`
`03:46.58`	`Bryanstein`	`he had to vent`
`03:47.14`	`DvineLord`	`is qt installed on elive?`
`03:47.23`	`Bryanstein`	`well I'm a realist...the reality is....he will be back`
`03:47.27`	`hilltop`	`ouch my eyes...`
`03:47.43`	`Bryanstein`	`you know why...for one he paid...two he waited for the iso to burn`
`03:47.43`	`elmo40`	`hilltop, k3b does a md5 check.`
`03:47.49`	`Bryanstein`	`3 Elive looks that nice`
`03:47.49`	`Thybo`	`ɔǝpoɔ 1ɐuoıʇɔunɟ ɐ sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇnq ou :pɹo1ǝuıʌp`
`03:48.12`	`DvineLord`	`why is ur typing upside down?`
`03:48.19`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, magic`
`03:48.21`	`Thybo`	`ah sorry`
`03:48.21`	`Bryanstein`	`he will sit there and play around with the iso and get it to work at a slower burn speed`
`03:48.36`	`elmo40`	`~md5`
`03:48.38`	`Bryanstein`	`Thybo, I'm not hanging upside down today`
`03:48.40`	`Thybo`	`ɔıbɐɯ 'pɹo1ǝuıʌp`
`03:48.40`	`DvineLord`	`i burn shit at 8x`
`03:48.42`	`DvineLord`	`w0w`
`03:48.42`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:48.46`	`Thybo`	`this is fun though`
`03:48.46`	`Bryanstein`	`that was yesterday`
`03:48.48`	`elmo40`	`so, that is the latest md5...`
`03:48.48`	`DvineLord`	`that isnt a good checksum`
`03:48.54`	`hilltop`	`I always use 8x.`
`03:48.55`	`Thybo`	`imagine`
`03:48.59`	`Thybo`	`typing like this`
`03:48.59`	`Bryanstein`	`no it's wrong`
`03:49.10`	`roxville`	`i always use 8x too`
`03:49.15`	`elmo40`	`then why hasnt anyone explain that to apt?`
`03:49.17`	`Bryanstein`	`me three`
`03:49.26`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:49.27`	`Bryanstein`	`lol`
`03:49.28`	`Thybo`	`after a whileu gt used to read upside down`
`03:49.28`	`Thybo`	`but`
`03:49.33`	`Thybo`	`ure the only one`
`03:49.41`	`Thybo`	`so people think ure talkin with martians`
`03:49.45`	`Bryanstein`	`i can read left right to left and vertical`
`03:49.46`	`Thybo`	`that would be awsomely cool`
`03:49.46`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`03:49.56`	`Bryanstein`	`but upside down it strange`
`03:49.56`	`elmo40`	`Thybo, i dont see upside down... that still utf8?`
`03:50.09`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:50.19`	`elmo40`	`~utf8`
`03:50.20`	`apt`	`elmo40: Pergunte-me sobre UTF-8`
`03:50.20`	`roxville`	`apt_, forget md5`
`03:50.24`	`elmo40`	`~date`
`03:50.25`	`apt`	`It is now 2007.07.02 3:50:25 GMT`
`03:50.29`	`elmo40`	`~cube`
`03:50.30`	`apt`	`cube is, like, a very nice FPS game on Opensource Located at http://www.cubeengine.com`
`03:50.40`	`Thybo`	`¿ʇɥbıɹ ʇı ǝǝs noʎ ʍou ..uʍop ǝpısdn ʇ,usɐʍ ʇɐɥʇ '04oɯ1ǝ`
`03:50.42`	`elmo40`	`~Thybo`
`03:50.42`	`apt`	`methinks thybo is a clown ! :P`
`03:50.44`	`roxville`	`apt_, md5 is 7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9`
`03:50.45`	`keyra`	`apt_: :)`
`03:50.58`	`elmo40`	`lol, there you go Thybo`
`03:51.01`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:51.06`	`elmo40`	`~md5`
`03:51.09`	`Thybo`	`thansk elmo40 yo sabia jjaja`
`03:51.13`	`elmo40`	`that didnt work...`
`03:51.27`	`roxville`	`apt forget md5`
`03:51.38`	`Thybo`	`apt forget elmo40`
`03:51.38`	`apt`	`i didn't have anything called 'elmo40 ' to forget, Thybo`
`03:51.39`	`Thybo`	`:p`
`03:51.42`	`Thybo`	`looool`
`03:51.46`	`roxville`	`<apt_> cannot remove factoid 'md5', too old. (13696.1607291667>1800) use 'no,' instead`
`03:51.53`	`roxville`	`apt no md5`
`03:52.25`	`roxville`	`apt_, no md5`
`03:52.36`	`elmo40`	`~elmo40`
`03:52.36`	`apt`	`i heard elmo40 is a canuck of estonian descent, and the master of nick completion`
`03:52.44`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`03:52.46`	`elmo40`	`:P`
`03:52.57`	`roxville`	`~ no md5`
`03:53.03`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:53.06`	`roxville`	`~no md5`
`03:53.13`	`Thybo`	`~why`
`03:53.14`	`apt`	`Because!`
`03:53.15`	`roxville`	`he's not listening to me`
`03:53.19`	`Thybo`	`~roxville`
`03:53.20`	`apt`	`rumour has it, roxville is a great Beer Lover, the universal loler and the Gimp Master. the gig master, or a picky guy`
`03:53.29`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`03:53.31`	`Thybo`	`thats why`
`03:53.32`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:53.34`	`elmo40`	`gimpmaster ;)`
`03:53.40`	`Thybo`	`roxville, that true?`
`03:53.50`	`roxville`	`Thybo, no it's not`
`03:54.03`	`Thybo`	`~Thybo`
`03:54.03`	`apt`	`[thybo] a clown ! :P`
`03:54.07`	`Thybo`	`pfff`
`03:54.17`	`Thybo`	`whoever put that in there come here righhhht now!!!`
`03:54.24`	`roxville`	`apt_, md5 is 7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9`
`03:54.29`	`Thybo`	`stand up and fight!!!`
`03:54.34`	`Thybo`	`who was it!!`
`03:54.46`	`roxville`	`i think it was elmo`
`03:55.27`	`Thybo`	`how do u get a command in?`
`03:55.41`	`Bryanstein`	`<>~~~~ done playing editor`
`03:55.43`	`roxville`	`Bryanstein, wget http://stashbox.org/26281/church-rc2.edj`
`03:55.46`	`roxville`	`that works`
`03:56.09`	`Thybo`	`i have to go....`
`03:56.11`	`Thybo`	`see you all`
`03:56.16`	`roxville`	`bye Thybo`
`03:56.26`	`roxville`	`i guess his mom needed the computer`
`03:56.29`	`Thybo`	`bye roxville`
`03:56.31`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:56.35`	`roxville`	`:D`
`03:56.36`	`Thybo`	`roxville, kiss my but :)`
`03:56.43`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:56.45`	`DvineLord`	`i wonder how long i can have this livecd running until either system crashes or my optical drive dies`
`03:56.49`	`roxville`	`nah, apt will`
`03:56.54`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`03:56.56`	`roxville`	`<DvineLord> i wonder how long i can have this livecd running until either system crashes or my optical drive dies`
`03:57.06`	`roxville`	`hilltop didn't get too good results`
`03:57.07`	`Thybo`	`DvineLord, if u have 1 gig of ram run with toram option :)`
`03:57.12`	`Bryanstein`	`Roxville where do I put that on my Windows XP to get it to work`
`03:57.20`	`DvineLord`	`i got 512mb`
`03:57.25`	`roxville`	`Bryanstein, in the registry`
`03:57.30`	`Bryanstein`	`hahahahahhahahaha`
`03:57.45`	`elmo40`	`roxville, you seen this version of Gimp? http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294`
`03:57.51`	`Bryanstein`	`LOL...ok....I'll put it next to the spybots`
`03:58.04`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`03:58.20`	`roxville`	`elmo40, yes i have seen it`
`03:58.27`	`roxville`	`i tried installing it once`
`03:58.30`	`elmo40`	`what you think?`
`03:58.33`	`roxville`	`i tried...`
`03:59.07`	`elmo40`	`ya, same here`
`03:59.20`	`Bryanstein`	`I want a second hand`
`03:59.26`	`elmo40`	`even tried their win32 version... didnt work worth a shit! Would not even open a .jpg :/`
`03:59.43`	`elmo40`	`Bryanstein, Second hands are too annoying!`
`03:59.47`	`hilltop`	`DvineLord, I had an old P200 with 2GB HD that would not install anything. I put a swap partition on it, a FAT32 for storage and then ran KNOPPIX for 90 days uptime. :)`
`04:00.13`	`DvineLord`	`nice`
`04:00.49`	`Bryanstein`	`brb...my neihbor needs me to help him on his roof`
`04:00.50`	`hilltop`	`Parted it out when I got an old win98 P450. Put ubuntu (plus KDE) on it and it has 330 days uptime now, on the HD.`
`04:00.56`	`Bryanstein`	`neighbor`
`04:01.27`	`roxville`	`ok Bryanstein`
`04:01.37`	`roxville`	`on the roof... at this time of night`
`04:01.47`	`roxville`	`tell him santa won't come yet!`
`04:02.00`	`roxville`	`hmmm he may be setting up fireworks`
`04:03.18`	`roxville`	`we had a user, with an earlier version of elive... he was in the channel for around 300 days too`
`04:03.29`	`roxville`	`he just let it sit, though, i think`
`04:03.47`	`roxville`	`didn't say much`
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`04:07.41`	`Bryanstein`	`what really 300 days`
`04:07.54`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`04:08.08`	`Bryanstein`	`you know the longest uptime for a gnu/*nix system ?`
`04:08.09`	`roxville`	`i think it was elive0.4`
`04:08.19`	`roxville`	`nope`
`04:08.22`	`Bryanstein`	`I think it's 10.2 years`
`04:08.28`	`roxville`	`wow`
`04:08.48`	`roxville`	`that's amazing`
`04:08.49`	`Bryanstein`	`I saw it in an a Linux Journal..they have statistics in the front`
`04:08.54`	`hilltop`	`DvineLord, I ran Mint for about a week - livecd, after sidux for several days. Then elive for almost 3 days. Now I'm back to home base HD.`
`04:09.18`	`DvineLord`	`koo`
`04:09.36`	`DvineLord`	`i was lookin at slax,wolvix,goblinx the other day`
`04:09.40`	`roxville`	`hilltop, i think DSL will probablt run for a while`
`04:09.42`	`DvineLord`	`donno which ones are any good`
`04:09.44`	`roxville`	`and puppy too`
`04:09.48`	`DvineLord`	`and gentoo`
`04:09.52`	`DvineLord`	`havent run any of them`
`04:11.12`	`hilltop`	`The biggest problem I find is memory leaks in browsers. Seems to be bad code on web sites. I've had them run away eating 300MB in a few minutes. One has to kill the job fast.`
`04:11.34`	`DvineLord`	`hrm`
`04:11.39`	`DvineLord`	`im not even peeping memory usage`
`04:11.45`	`DvineLord`	`is that module on the cd`
`04:11.48`	`DvineLord`	`that shows that stuff`
`04:12.21`	`hilltop`	`Also it might be if I change the font size to be larger - some part of the site I don't see will get REALLY big font in the process and that eats memory. You can hear it clicking in the swap.`
`04:12.25`	`roxville`	`DvineLord, open a terminal and type: top`
`04:13.13`	`DvineLord`	`yes`
`04:13.17`	`DvineLord`	`i got a whole 10m free`
`04:13.20`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`04:13.56`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:14.14`	`hilltop`	`I've taken to surfing in links when the going gets rough. :)`
`04:15.18`	`roxville`	`yeah links is good for that`
`04:15.31`	`DvineLord`	`id like links on my cellphone`
`04:15.31`	`roxville`	`often looks really good too`
`04:15.33`	`DvineLord`	`thatd be kool`
`04:15.35`	`DvineLord`	`be faster`
`04:16.06`	`DvineLord`	`i wonder if i could eject the cd and not have elive crash`
`04:16.07`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`04:16.10`	`hilltop`	`links doesn't pass the ads thru well, good for it.`
`04:16.18`	`DvineLord`	`and stick in a different elivecd`
`04:16.20`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`04:17.26`	`DvineLord`	`u think i could install elive on a 2gig thumbdrive`
`04:17.31`	`DvineLord`	`or is that way too small?`
`04:18.04`	`roxville`	`you'd need 2.5-3 GB`
`04:18.04`	`DvineLord`	`1.5gig for / and .5gig for linux-swap`
`04:18.08`	`DvineLord`	`damn`
`04:18.34`	`roxville`	`unless you build it as a livecd`
`04:18.43`	`DvineLord`	`i was thinking that also`
`04:18.46`	`DvineLord`	`what do i do`
`04:18.47`	`roxville`	`i think GPLGeek was experimenting with that`
`04:18.53`	`DvineLord`	`just extract the iso to the thumbdrive`
`04:18.58`	`DvineLord`	`the syslinux or isolinux it?`
`04:18.59`	`roxville`	`i just know how knows`
`04:19.01`	`DvineLord`	`*then`
`04:19.15`	`DvineLord`	`no one does`
`04:19.15`	`DvineLord`	`heh`
`04:19.36`	`GPLGeek`	`oh I've got elive running on a 1gb usb`
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`04:20.12`	`DvineLord`	`sweet`
`04:20.29`	`DvineLord`	`i donno why i downloaded the cdcovers and stuff`
`04:20.36`	`DvineLord`	`i dont even make cdcovers when i burn stuff`
`04:20.46`	`roxville`	`see y'all tomorrow`
`04:20.49`	`GPLGeek`	`put bootloader + kernel on pen drive, boot to that kernel and loopback mount the iso`
`04:20.53`	`GPLGeek`	`OR`
`04:21.19`	`DvineLord`	`ive never seen that work`
`04:21.22`	`DvineLord`	`mounting isos`
`04:21.26`	`GPLGeek`	`mount and extract the iso into a chroot, apt-get remove --purge stuff like openoffice, etc`
`04:21.55`	`DvineLord`	`koo`
`04:22.03`	`GPLGeek`	`DvineLord, the kernel has to support the cramfs and other squishfs's and whatever the specific iso uses`
`04:22.30`	`GPLGeek`	`there are a few ways to do it`
`04:22.35`	`Bryanstein`	`mount -o loop your.iso mountdirectoryofyourchoice`
`04:22.48`	`GPLGeek`	`you can actually install elive to a pendrive as if it were a real hard drive if you can make it fit`
`04:23.02`	`GPLGeek`	`IE remove openoffice, amsn, un-needed crap`
`04:23.09`	`DvineLord`	`someone say my name`
`04:23.15`	`DvineLord`	`wanna see if i turned off xchat sounds`
`04:23.17`	`GPLGeek`	`and for that matter we have many elive DVDs floating around lol`
`04:23.22`	`GPLGeek`	`DvineLord,`
`04:23.26`	`hilltop`	`DvineLord. you wouldn't want swap on a flash thumb IMO.`
`04:23.32`	`DvineLord`	`stop saying my name now`
`04:23.33`	`DvineLord`	`=)`
`04:23.38`	`DvineLord`	`how do i turn off sounds`
`04:24.34`	`DvineLord`	`cause i dont wanna remove the sound file`
`04:24.42`	`DvineLord`	`but id like to be able to turn it on and off`
`04:24.44`	`Bryanstein`	`go to preferences`
`04:25.01`	`Bryanstein`	`then sound then Channel Msg Hilight`
`04:25.13`	`DvineLord`	`just remove the file`
`04:25.16`	`Bryanstein`	`take out the line`
`04:25.40`	`DvineLord`	`koo`
`04:25.46`	`DvineLord`	`well i gotta run get my ihop`
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`04:40.16`	`Bryanstein`	`see you later`
`04:49.46`	`elmo40`	`05,14 Uptime 12,15 11 days 07:02:53`
`04:50.04`	`elmo40`	`and this is a winXP box! No problems here ;)`
`04:51.07`	`elmo40`	`have been messing with reg files, dll's, add/removing apps... though the dumba$$ pagefile.sys is almost 1Gb !!!!!!!! Stupid wondoze...`
`04:51.15`	`kevin_`	`i have a screen shot of a win who have an uptime of 10 days and with a message who said me 'reboot'`
`04:51.27`	`elmo40`	`i am going to reboot now`
`04:51.56`	`elmo40`	`i edited a reg setting to erase the pagefile at shutdown every time. Default is to NOT erase, and to continue the GROWTH :/`
`04:52.22`	`elmo40`	`did u see the uptime? i didnt know if it only displayed for me ;)`
`04:52.29`	`elmo40`	`Uptime 11 days 07:02:53`
`04:52.59`	`elmo40`	`anyways, see you guys tomorrow... hopefully ;)`
`04:53.05`	`kevin_`	`yes we see`
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`05:06.33`	`DvineLord`	`erasing the pagefile takes forever`
`05:06.43`	`DvineLord`	`i found that when winho is running real fast`
`05:06.49`	`DvineLord`	`u can just disable the pagefile`
`05:06.55`	`DvineLord`	`most apps wont bitch outwards`
`05:07.26`	`DvineLord`	`but if ur using like graphics,audio,networking,business apps u should probably keep it on`
`05:08.55`	`DvineLord`	`ok im gonna boot a different elivecd`
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`05:21.14`	`DvineLord`	`ok i booted the topic disk`
`05:21.25`	`DvineLord`	`it didnt pass`
`05:21.38`	`DvineLord`	`does it pass verify for yall?`
`05:22.49`	`DvineLord`	`i might reburn`
`05:22.51`	`DvineLord`	`i donno`
`05:26.40`	`DvineLord`	`damn`
`05:26.44`	`DvineLord`	`was there no 4400 tonight?`
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`13:21.03`	`FreeEagle`	`LinuxNIT, ping!`
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`14:04.04`	`SuperpeZ`	`keyra, can you help me?`
`14:04.19`	`keyra`	`SuperpeZ: help ? hey, im not a bot! lol`
`14:04.54`	`SuperpeZ`	`I need help to change my desktop background`
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`14:26.22`	`Thybo`	`allelluiiaa`
`14:26.27`	`Thybo`	`keyra is gooooone hahahaha`
`14:26.31`	`Thybo`	`ubuntu windows`
`14:26.32`	`Thybo`	`hahaha`
`14:26.34`	`Thybo`	`mac`
`14:26.37`	`Thybo`	`i want elive on mac`
`14:26.38`	`Thybo`	`eheheh`
`14:27.54`	`plasma`	`i want elive without paying for it`
`14:28.00`	`plasma`	`because i dont have paypal`
`14:28.05`	`plasma`	`and i dont understand that policy`
`14:28.18`	`plasma`	`really sucks hard`
`14:28.29`	`elmo40`	`Thybo, dont forget the ????????`
`14:28.38`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`14:28.49`	`Thybo`	`plasma, u should read the text`
`14:29.00`	`elmo40`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:29.13`	`Thybo`	`plasma, do you think one person should pay so that others benefit from his free willing work?`
`14:29.50`	`plasma`	`If you really don't have a way to make a donation to download Elive, contact Thanatermesis.`
`14:29.54`	`plasma`	`you mean this line?`
`14:30.04`	`plasma`	`thybo. its linux`
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`14:30.09`	`plasma`	`no discussion`
`14:30.17`	`plasma`	`i appreciate that he wants money`
`14:30.21`	`plasma`	`but not THAT way`
`14:30.28`	`Thybo`	`pff`
`14:30.30`	`Thybo`	`plasma`
`14:30.36`	`Thybo`	`u never done any project or what`
`14:30.37`	`Thybo`	`if u say`
`14:30.41`	`plasma`	`lol`
`14:30.41`	`elmo40`	`keyra, ????`
`14:30.47`	`Thybo`	`u can give money when u want`
`14:30.48`	`elmo40`	`keyra, Ubuntu !!!`
`14:30.49`	`plasma`	`you are wrong`
`14:30.53`	`Thybo`	`nobody ever gives nothing`
`14:30.55`	`keyra`	`elmo40: with only one "?" you have sufficient`
`14:30.55`	`elmo40`	`keyra, Windows !!!`
`14:30.59`	`elmo40`	`keyra, NTFS`
`14:31.03`	`plasma`	`wrong too`
`14:31.04`	`Thybo`	`than he is paying for the server`
`14:31.08`	`Thybo`	`so that YOU can download`
`14:31.13`	`Thybo`	`that doesn't seem right to me`
`14:31.14`	`Thybo`	`and`
`14:31.20`	`plasma`	`its declared as a donation`
`14:31.28`	`Thybo`	`u can pay 10 cent if u want`
`14:31.28`	`plasma`	`but the fact there is no option makes it to a payment`
`14:31.29`	`Thybo`	`so`
`14:31.31`	`Thybo`	`if u won't`
`14:31.34`	`plasma`	`so what you are trying to tell me?`
`14:31.35`	`Thybo`	`ure a greedy pig to me`
`14:31.38`	`Thybo`	`:)`
`14:31.45`	`Thybo`	`all due respect of course ^^`
`14:32.17`	`plasma`	`there is more then one oppertunity to host it for free`
`14:32.31`	`Thybo`	`please give it to us :)`
`14:32.36`	`plasma`	`on fast and relaible servers`
`14:32.42`	`Thybo`	`ah...`
`14:34.01`	`elmo40`	`hrmm, i think keyra is lacking today.`
`14:34.16`	`keyra`	`elmo40: hi :)`
`14:34.23`	`elmo40`	`lol, stupid bot`
`14:34.37`	`keyra`	`elmo40: no... stupid human`
`14:34.48`	`elmo40`	`keyra, stupid bot`
`14:34.55`	`elmo40`	`keyra, NTFS`
`14:35.02`	`keyra`	`elmo40: bot`
`14:35.10`	`elmo40`	`~keyra`
`14:35.11`	`apt`	`i guess keyra is a bot`
`14:35.17`	`elmo40`	`thnx apt_`
`14:35.25`	`keyra`	`apt_: you think it ?`
`14:35.58`	`elmo40`	`~elive`
`14:35.59`	`apt`	`elive is probably a livecd (installable) project and a perfectly distro based in debian and have only the enlightenment WM for managing all the system, utilities, libs, instalation, programation in EFL... the best distro in the world for this moments :)`
`14:36.06`	`elmo40`	`~bot`
`14:36.07`	`apt`	`I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).`
`14:36.09`	`plasma`	`plasma, do you think one person should pay so that others benefit from his free willing work? <- thats what opensource is about, and if people donate if its worth it`
`14:37.19`	`elmo40`	`plasma, exactly. One(or multiple) people get together, design/program/distribute software to better mankind! Open Source is the way to go. GPL something people need to read up about.`
`14:37.29`	`elmo40`	`keyra, who is apt_ ?`
`14:37.46`	`elmo40`	`~website`
`14:38.00`	`elmo40`	`~link`
`14:38.00`	`apt`	`it has been said that link is titled "Convert Hauppauge IR remote control to IRMAN"`
`14:38.12`	`elmo40`	`oh really? Hrmm...`
`14:38.17`	`elmo40`	`~plasma`
`14:38.25`	`elmo40`	`~thybo`
`14:38.25`	`apt`	`somebody said thybo was a clown ! :P`
`14:38.32`	`elmo40`	`so very true.`
`14:38.38`	`plasma`	`kinda ;)`
`14:38.44`	`elmo40`	`ok, no more abusing apt_`
`14:38.50`	`Thybo`	`elmo40, lol`
`14:38.52`	`elmo40`	`apt_, kill keyra`
`14:38.56`	`Thybo`	`plasma, i agree on the work part...`
`14:39.10`	`Thybo`	`but i don't think the devs should have to pay servers from there poket`
`14:39.21`	`plasma`	`well, like i said there are free ones`
`14:39.24`	`Thybo`	`so what could be more fair than pay the download?..`
`14:39.24`	`plasma`	`like sourceforge`
`14:39.26`	`plasma`	`and many others`
`14:39.38`	`plasma`	`there are datacenters that host servers for free`
`14:39.42`	`plasma`	`for opensource projects`
`14:39.44`	`plasma`	`and many more`
`14:39.47`	`Thybo`	`welll`
`14:39.51`	`plasma`	`so dont tell me he HAS to pay`
`14:39.55`	`plasma`	`he decided that way`
`14:40.01`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`14:40.01`	`elmo40`	`Thybo, there are free ways to distribute .iso's, using rapidshare for one.`
`14:40.02`	`plasma`	`and i think it isnt the right one`
`14:40.04`	`elmo40`	`just takes a LONG time`
`14:42.18`	`plasma`	`some time ago a guy talked to me about the way you can get elive and i laughed about him said if you really dont wanna pay there is the slow server and there are torrents`
`14:42.37`	`Thybo`	`yes there are`
`14:42.37`	`Thybo`	`:`
`14:42.38`	`Thybo`	`:)`
`14:42.46`	`plasma`	`but since the slow server is down and NOBODY seeds the iso, there is no way to get it`
`14:43.10`	`plasma`	`at least i dont see one, except paying`
`14:43.19`	`plasma`	`and thats no opensource policy`
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`14:55.26`	`plasma_`	`elmo40: nope, only the pre. and i cant pm since my nick isnt registered`
`14:55.45`	`plasma_`	`or some lame othere person registered it who doesnt use it at all`
`14:57.33`	`plasma_`	`i think it was a bot because someday someone pm me and tried to use commands and wondered`
`14:57.34`	`plasma_`	`:P`
`14:57.47`	`plasma_`	`really sucks to register names for bots`
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`15:09.36`	`elmo40`	`LinuxNIT,how is the weather?`
`15:09.41`	`elmo40`	`chilly here`
`15:09.51`	`plasma_`	`yes ;)`
`15:10.07`	`plasma_`	`here it is sunny too`
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`15:11.55`	`kevin_`	`EHLO irc`
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`15:13.38`	`elmo40`	`kevin_, hi`
`15:13.54`	`elmo40`	`MetaPhaze, hi`
`15:14.14`	`MetaPhaze`	`hi ya`
`15:14.24`	`kevin_`	`hi elmo40`
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`15:14.58`	`elmo40`	`morning guys (i presume)`
`15:15.05`	`elmo40`	`plasma, see the request?`
`15:15.30`	`kevin_`	`anyone know what is the software who send me message like: Medias kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode`
`15:15.30`	`elmo40`	`why not lappy? ;)`
`15:15.39`	`kevin_`	`and how to disable it?`
`15:15.45`	`kevin_`	`bips take me crazy !`
`15:15.46`	`elmo40`	`never seen that one`
`15:15.54`	`get[lap]`	`testing the huawei vodafone modem`
`15:15.54`	`get[lap]`	`>D`
`15:15.57`	`get[lap]`	`and it works`
`15:15.59`	`get[lap]`	`with elive`
`15:16.10`	`get[lap]`	`now internet is everywhere`
`15:16.16`	`elmo40`	`cool, anything special required to get it working?`
`15:16.21`	`get[lap]`	`mmm`
`15:16.25`	`get[lap]`	`an alias of modprobe`
`15:16.27`	`elmo40`	`what is the price for this 'everywhere internet' ?`
`15:16.34`	`get[lap]`	`and atm wvdial`
`15:16.40`	`get[lap]`	`im dial/in manually`
`15:17.03`	`get[lap]`	`now i will try with network-admin`
`15:17.09`	`get[lap]`	`if i can conf it`
`15:17.09`	`kevin_`	`i have tryed with my phone modem, it don't work :'(`
`15:17.25`	`plasma`	`elmo: yeah, but it doesnt seem to work`
`15:17.34`	`Thybo`	`slu kevin :)`
`15:17.38`	`plasma`	`but i looks like my port forwarding works`
`15:18.26`	`kevin_`	`iop Thybo`
`15:18.30`	`kevin_`	`la forme?`
`15:18.35`	`Thybo`	`trankilou`
`15:18.37`	`Thybo`	`on fait aller:)`
`15:18.38`	`elmo40`	`ok, i will try something different plasma`
`15:19.01`	`kevin_`	`:)`
`15:20.15`	`plasma`	`elmo: you could do a temporary /msg nickserv set unfiltered on`
`15:20.21`	`plasma`	`so we can communicate ;)`
`15:21.05`	`elmo40`	`k`
`15:25.17`	`get`	`ok here are some pics`
`15:25.35`	`get`	`htp://winsucks.org/elive+huawei/`
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`15:28.29`	`kevin_`	`anyone know where can i put an email adresse to get spam on?`
`15:28.57`	`Thybo`	`lol`
`15:28.59`	`Thybo`	`type`
`15:29.02`	`Thybo`	`newsletter dans google`
`15:29.08`	`Thybo`	`inscris toi a la premiere page`
`15:29.10`	`Thybo`	`ca devrait aller`
`15:29.30`	`kevin_`	`newsletter ça va pas etre suffisant`
`15:29.47`	`kevin_`	`j'aimerais manger pas mal de spam pour pouvoir mettre un bon anti spam en place`
`15:30.00`	`kevin_`	`faudrai que google la calle rapidement et la classe bien`
`15:30.15`	`Thybo`	`lol`
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`15:31.02`	`get[lappy]`	`hrhrhr`
`15:31.11`	`get[lappy]`	`it works with network-admin`
`15:31.16`	`get[lappy]`	`great`
`15:32.41`	`Thybo`	`get, what are those screenshot?`
`15:32.42`	`Thybo`	`s?`
`15:35.06`	`get[lappy]`	`the new usb modem 3g of vodafone`
`15:35.21`	`get[lappy]`	`working on a laptop with the last stable elive "gem"`
`15:36.17`	`roxville`	`awesome!`
`15:36.38`	`Thybo`	`:)`
`15:36.40`	`Thybo`	`hehe`
`15:36.46`	`Thybo`	`if its only 3g...`
`15:36.48`	`Thybo`	`i had it`
`15:36.50`	`Thybo`	`not that quick`
`15:36.58`	`Thybo`	`3G+ is getting interesting`
`15:37.23`	`get`	`the speed test says now:`
`15:37.32`	`get`	`upload: 208Kbps`
`15:37.33`	`elmo40`	`get, i see my nick in http://www.winsucks.org/elive+huawei/DSCI0002.JPG ;)`
`15:37.42`	`get`	`Download: 464 Kbps`
`15:37.49`	`Thybo`	`hmm`
`15:37.51`	`roxville`	`wow, that's great!`
`15:37.56`	`Thybo`	`what real speed is that?*`
`15:38.24`	`get`	`just the speed test made on http://www.adsl4ever.com/test/11/`
`15:38.36`	`get`	`test it`
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`15:40.43`	`roxville`	`"Linus: How concrete? Since Microsoft hasn't named them, there is no 'concrete'. For all we know, Microsoft just made up the number..."`
`15:40.48`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`15:41.10`	`roxville`	`http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-07-02-009-26-IN-KN-LL`
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`15:42.57`	`Elive_user99`	`it seems to work`
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`16:09.33`	`elmo40`	`SuperpeZ, hi`
`16:10.34`	`SuperpeZ`	`hi elmo40 :)`
`16:10.47`	`elmo40`	`how r things?`
`16:10.49`	`elmo40`	`try Gem yet?`
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`16:23.43`	`SuperpeZ`	`things r fine elmo40, thanks :)`
`16:24.00`	`SuperpeZ`	`I was to eat something`
`16:25.21`	`SuperpeZ`	`how r you elmo40 ?`
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`16:39.44`	`marcfp`	`hi`
`16:40.14`	`Thybo`	`hi marcfp hi get-huawei_test how u doin with that tests`
`16:40.44`	`get-huawei_test`	`testing the huawei 3g modem from vodafone`
`16:40.53`	`get-huawei_test`	`and it seems to work`
`16:40.55`	`get-huawei_test`	`:D`
`16:41.17`	`Thybo`	`hehe sure does`
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`16:50.02`	`kevin_`	`anyone know how to enable the repeat on xmodmap plz?`
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`17:49.19`	`kevin_`	`when a graphical session is starting, does the ~/.bashrc is executed?`
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`17:55.41`	`elmo40`	`kevin_, only when the console opens`
`17:56.16`	`elmo40`	`if you edit your .bashrc, close the console, then reopen it, it will use your changes. no need to restart X for .bashrc implementation`
`17:56.28`	`elmo40`	`anyone up for some unreal 2k4 ?`
`17:56.35`	`elmo40`	`just look for elmo40 ;)`
`17:56.51`	`kevin_`	`i would to auto load my keyboard map when openning a graphical session`
`17:56.56`	`kevin_`	`how can i do plz?`
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`18:20.43`	`elmo40`	`auto load keyboard? try kbconf, or something like that.`
`18:20.49`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis, welcome back!`
`18:20.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`thx Elive_user3`
`18:20.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40,`
`18:21.42`	`kevin_`	`<elmo40> auto load keyboard? try kbconf, or something like that.`
`18:21.46`	`kevin_`	`i use xmodmap`
`18:21.51`	`kevin_`	`hi Thanatermesis`
`18:22.20`	`kevin_`	`i'm using evdev for keyboard driver, and all touch are not configured with it`
`18:22.29`	`kevin_`	`i have completed my keyboard map`
`18:22.55`	`kevin_`	`so now i need to automaticaly load my change when a graphical session is started`
`18:23.06`	`kevin_`	`i have tryed in the xinitrc so it don't work`
`18:23.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`evdev ? mmmh, im not sure if this one is very stable...`
`18:24.11`	`kevin_`	`i can't use xkb with my multi seat`
`18:25.44`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis, did you receive my email?`
`18:27.50`	`Thybo`	`hello Thanatermesis :) re kevin_ re elmo40 :)`
`18:28.02`	`kevin_`	`re Thybo`
`18:28.05`	`keyra`	`Thybo: hi`
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`18:29.18`	`elmo40`	`hilltop, wb`
`18:29.42`	`kevin_`	`hi kevin_`
`18:29.44`	`kevin_`	`erf`
`18:29.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, yes, and... well, has a LOT of things lol, im sorry but actually in don't have any kind of time for make all that :/`
`18:29.46`	`kevin_`	`keyra`
`18:29.47`	`kevin_`	`*`
`18:29.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`my TODO list grows instead of down...`
`18:30.28`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis, i hear ya.`
`18:30.38`	`elmo40`	`i think 12 gf will make the list even LONGER!!`
`18:30.57`	`elmo40`	`but would make for an interesting weekend! ;)`
`18:31.13`	`hilltop`	`elmo40, hi. What is wb?`
`18:31.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`only weekend ? :)`
`18:31.42`	`elmo40`	`welcome back`
`18:32.15`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis, yes, since during the week, u HAVE to make Elive better and better ;) No 'rest' except for the weekends! This is a full time job :/`
`18:32.18`	`hilltop`	`ah, THKS`
`18:32.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, no, my full time job is 8 days by week`
`18:32.56`	`elmo40`	`oh... too many days`
`18:33.25`	`kevin_`	`erf, i'm a lamer :s`
`18:33.49`	`kevin_`	`i'm trying to auto exec xmodmap on a bad partion :x`
`18:38.04`	`hilltop`	`Is elive based on Debian? Which level, Sid? thanks`
`18:38.18`	`keyra`	`hilltop: Debian r00lz !`
`18:38.25`	`roxville`	`hilltop, we were in etch`
`18:38.31`	`roxville`	`now, were in...etch`
`18:39.03`	`roxville`	`which turned stable a few months ago`
`18:39.09`	`hilltop`	`oh, etch. Can any deb from etch be had by apt-get?`
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`18:39.16`	`roxville`	`thana decided to stay in the stable branch`
`18:39.39`	`roxville`	`hilltop, yes... the debian etch repos are already enabled`
`18:39.54`	`hilltop`	`but elive has some of its own?`
`18:40.55`	`roxville`	`yes elive has it's own repo too, side by side with etch`
`18:41.18`	`roxville`	`cream /etc/apt/sources.list`
`18:41.32`	`roxville`	`will show you what you have`
`18:42.18`	`hilltop`	`so elive will advance when debian does in what a year? and that will be called what?`
`18:42.41`	`hilltop`	`where is sid in the flow?`
`18:44.20`	`hilltop`	`If I get a noob to set up elive, one who I will not be in contact with, will he be able to keep up to date easily?`
`18:44.20`	`roxville`	`i'm not sure`
`18:44.29`	`roxville`	`i don't follow the debian names too much`
`18:44.54`	`roxville`	`but elive was in etch when it was testing... and we stayed when it became stable`
`18:45.09`	`roxville`	`<hilltop> If I get a noob to set up elive, one who I will not be in contact with, will he be able to keep up to date easily?`
`18:45.28`	`roxville`	`he will... he can open synaptic and click the upgrade button`
`18:45.30`	`hilltop`	`I don't either, read a description on distrowatch. But still it is always a puzzle how a distro will interact.`
`18:45.44`	`keyra`	`hilltop: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/`
`18:45.44`	`roxville`	`first the update, then the mark all upgrades and the apply`
`18:46.10`	`roxville`	`thx keyra you're a puzzle too...`
`18:46.58`	`hilltop`	`yea, that is how I always do in PCLos and Ubuntu. So that is easy. Is there an announcement "thingy" that will tell him he should do this?`
`18:47.13`	`hilltop`	`keyra, I don't use Mac. LOL`
`18:48.56`	`hilltop`	`Turing test time: roxville is always here, just llike keyra. And never misbehaves and is very helpful. So, is roxville a bot? :)`
`18:49.10`	`keyra`	`hilltop: you think it ?`
`18:49.25`	`roxville`	`yeah, i'm a bot...`
`18:49.34`	`roxville`	`at least my kids seem to think so...`
`18:49.46`	`hilltop`	`haha, and the above reply proves keyra is not. LOL`
`18:50.24`	`roxville`	`<hilltop> yea, that is how I always do in PCLos and Ubuntu. So that is easy. Is there an announcement "thingy" that will tell him he should do this?`
`18:50.32`	`roxville`	`no there isn't...`
`18:52.00`	`hilltop`	`synaptic is very easy to use, even tho some don't like it. I can't see what is not to like except possibly the repo settings.`
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`18:54.54`	`roxville`	`hilltop, if you tickle GPLGeek under the chin for a bit... maybe he'll remaster a version for you with automatix2`
`18:56.03`	`roxville`	`and have a very basic ibar`
`18:56.49`	`mathmanp`	`does anybody have a source tarball of elivestyle entrance theme ? It doesn't decompile properly.`
`18:57.09`	`hilltop`	`I'm not interested automatix - it has a bad reputation of making later upgrades fail. At least in ubuntu. So I would need to be sold on this one. :)`
`18:58.02`	`GPLGeek`	`roxville, it was already done`
`18:58.41`	`hilltop`	`GPLGeek, so automatix doesn't missbehave for you?`
`18:58.51`	`GPLGeek`	`Tame it`
`18:59.01`	`GPLGeek`	`It's meant for Gnome/KDE`
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`18:59.26`	`hilltop`	`which elive isn't`
`18:59.40`	`GPLGeek`	`but you can use it if you know what to use and what not to use`
`19:01.26`	`hilltop`	`well, I'm looking into setting up reject computers for disadvantaged who must be assumed to be noobs, so how would they react to this.`
`19:02.07`	`roxville`	`i mean, what you need, is`
`19:02.11`	`roxville`	`sorry`
`19:03.34`	`elmo40`	`they wont react to the 'no start button' model that E uses... people get lost when they dont see that stupid button.`
`19:04.03`	`roxville`	`so put the basic apps in ibar`
`19:04.32`	`roxville`	`we should have a synaptic with three buttons and nothing else`
`19:04.47`	`roxville`	`click this then this, then this`
`19:06.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, but that's not windows`
`19:06.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`i know a girl to not has the minimum idea about how to use windows (after to use it between years), and actually works perfectly with Elive :)`
`19:06.46`	`roxville`	`so "upgrade" "INternet" "email" "word processing"`
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`19:13.30`	`elmo40`	`roxville, and 'help via IRC' ;)`
`19:14.16`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`19:14.42`	`roxville`	`and we would name them hilltop1, hilltop2 etc instead of Elive_user :)`
`19:16.08`	`elmo40`	`lol`
`19:16.18`	`roxville`	`i can't put my money where my mouth is...`
`19:16.56`	`elmo40`	`i have no money to put in my mouth! :/`
`19:17.10`	`elmo40`	`mortgage just came through...`
`19:17.12`	`roxville`	`me either`
`19:17.20`	`roxville`	`ouch`
`19:17.46`	`elmo40`	`$1200 gone, in one shot. hurts i tellz ya`
`19:18.10`	`hilltop`	`<roxville> we should have a synaptic with three buttons and nothing else..`
`19:18.22`	`hilltop`	`reminds me of ctrl-alt-del`
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`19:31.46`	`elmo40`	`hilltop, as little as possible in the way of 'fcukin' things up... Synaptic should AUTO update when it loads, Auto check for upgrades, and only does what is really necessary(so it auto installs them) If someone needs a certain package, and it will remove a bunch of other things, add different things, then they can do it with apt-get. Elive should have its own GUI for apt, one for 'idiots' and one for 'intermediates'.`
`19:31.46`	`elmo40`	`We all know that console is the way to go for 'experts'`
`19:32.00`	`keyra`	`elmo40: thanks... bot :)`
`19:32.09`	`elmo40`	`keyra, stupid`
`19:37.50`	`hilltop`	`when I start elive livecd I do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lynx joe zim`
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`19:38.45`	`roxville`	`hilltop, drop the sudo stuff`
`19:38.59`	`roxville`	`just type su, pw and then the apt-get stuff`
`19:41.07`	`hilltop`	`OK :)`
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`19:43.44`	`roxville`	`always remember guys... two wrongs don't make a right`
`19:43.51`	`roxville`	`but three rights make a left!`
`19:43.58`	`keyra`	`roxville: Elive for MacBooks !!! http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/MacBook/`
`19:44.32`	`roxville`	`thnx keyra i'll check it out...`
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`19:57.30`	`FreeEagle`	`Hi again`
`19:57.37`	`etuxr`	`I have a proble, with amarok i closed it and it told me that it was closing to system tray and now it wont work. I have tried restarting enlightonment, I cant figure out how to get it to work again.`
`19:57.39`	`FreeEagle`	`Does anyone sent me a message ?`
`19:58.03`	`FreeEagle`	`:S`
`19:58.06`	`FreeEagle`	`Okay`
`19:58.08`	`FreeEagle`	`bye bye`
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`19:58.25`	`etuxr`	`anyone have any ideas?`
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`19:59.55`	`Elive_user79`	`hey, this elive is really pretty good, but I can't see how to install if off my live cd`
`20:00.22`	`Elive_user79`	`nevermind, last icon on right...`
`20:00.41`	`etuxr`	`in the dock there is an icon on the far right to install it`
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`20:10.57`	`hilltop`	`<roxville> but three rights make a left! -- haha and four rights restores everything.`
`20:12.03`	`hilltop`	`aha! rox is gone, he must not be a bot. :)`
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`20:22.57`	`Elive_user97`	`hi! I\m totally new to elive, anyone got any pointers on how to make the touchpad on my dell laptop work better_ *meaning not being so slow etc(`
`20:23.49`	`Thybo`	`hm`
`20:24.07`	`Thybo`	`Elive_user97, on elive at startup normaly u had the option of puting a special driver`
`20:24.44`	`Elive_user97`	`yes, I choose to go with the recommende setting / using the touchpad...`
`20:24.59`	`Elive_user97`	`don\t remember what the driver was called... synoptics_`
`20:25.38`	`Thybo`	`aha`
`20:25.42`	`Thybo`	`and still is slow?`
`20:25.44`	`Thybo`	`thats weird`
`20:25.48`	`Thybo`	`what do u mean by slow?`
`20:25.53`	`Elive_user97`	`not`
`20:26.04`	`Elive_user97`	`awfully slow, but not great to work with either`
`20:26.34`	`Elive_user97`	`takes 12 strokes to make it horizontally over the screen`
`20:26.44`	`Thybo`	`slow as in it would get better if u aumented the sensibility?`
`20:26.57`	`Elive_user97`	`yep, if I could find the setting >(`
`20:27.05`	`Thybo`	`hmm`
`20:27.13`	`Thybo`	`has to be somwhere wait 1 sec`
`20:27.16`	`Alucard`	`hi`
`20:27.23`	`Elive_user97`	`thank you. waiting...`
`20:27.26`	`Thybo`	`bonjour Alucard de nantes`
`20:27.28`	`Thybo`	`:p`
`20:27.47`	`Alucard`	`salut ;)`
`20:28.49`	`Thybo`	`ca va la fete?:p`
`20:28.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user97, what kind of laptop is it?`
`20:29.11`	`Alucard`	`j'ai pas l'habitude des IRC mais vue que j'ai installé une debian je test les logiciels`
`20:29.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`whoops... a dell aye`
`20:29.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`do you have the model number?`
`20:29.38`	`Alucard`	`la fête?`
`20:29.51`	`Elive_user97`	`dell 8600 inspiron`
`20:30.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`k... im thinking you have an alps touch pad which is what my brother had... his was slow as well.... but dont worry you can speed it up`
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`20:31.19`	`Elive_user97`	`soinds good, how do I do that_`
`20:31.23`	`Elive_user97`	`\|sounds`
`20:31.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user97, run this command cat /proc/bus/input/devices \| grep Name`
`20:31.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`do any say Synaptics or Alps?`
`20:32.53`	`Elive_user97`	`Alps`
`20:33.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`are you using it in live mode or installed?`
`20:33.18`	`Elive_user97`	`AlpsPS/2 Glidepoint to be exact`
`20:33.22`	`Elive_user97`	`live mode`
`20:33.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`:(`
`20:33.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`to fix it requires editing xorg.conf....`
`20:34.19`	`Thybo`	`hhe`
`20:34.28`	`Thybo`	`Elive_user97, ull have to install if u wanna fixit`
`20:34.38`	`Elive_user97`	`(first time on linux - if thats not clear from my questions :)`
`20:34.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`20:35.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`well... i can help you if you want to do it.... the thing is if you edit in livemode it will not be there when you reboot`
`20:35.44`	`Elive_user97`	`would be worth trying in livemode before installing... unless its tons of work_`
`20:37.16`	`Elive_user97`	`(at least now I can type faster - just fpund the setting to make my keyboard Swedish (which I'm used to :))`
`20:37.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`20:37.33`	`Elive_user97`	`xconf huh, wher do I find that?`
`20:37.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`well do you have a terminal open?`
`20:37.38`	`Elive_user97`	`yep`
`20:37.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`type su`
`20:37.57`	`Elive_user97`	`yep`
`20:38.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`then: cream /etc/X11/xorg.conf`
`20:38.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`cream is the editor`
`20:38.38`	`Elive_user97`	`ah, the config file`
`20:38.45`	`Elive_user97`	`here it is`
`20:38.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`20:38.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`now look for the section that starts like this:`
`20:39.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:39.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:39.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:39.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`or similar`
`20:39.15`	`Elive_user97`	`found it`
`20:39.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`add this line`
`20:39.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:39.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`BEFORE the endsection`
`20:39.55`	`Elive_user97`	`done`
`20:39.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`you can set these options aswell as many others.....`
`20:39.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:39.59`	`Elive_user97`	`ok`
`20:39.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:40.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`but you dont know what speed you want yet ;)`
`20:40.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`save the file`
`20:40.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`did it save?`
`20:40.33`	`Elive_user97`	`yep, no error message at least`
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`20:41.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok`
`20:41.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`now close cream`
`20:41.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`and now you will have to restart the xserver`
`20:41.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`it will kill all open programs doing this`
`20:41.20`	`Elive_user97`	`err, yeah...`
`20:41.29`	`Elive_user97`	`thats no problem - how do I do it?`
`20:41.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`so if you have anything "important" open then do something with it`
`20:41.52`	`Elive_user97`	`nothing except this chat :)`
`20:42.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`cntrl+alt+backspace.... then relogin`
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`20:43.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome back`
`20:43.17`	`Elive_user97`	`back. still slow but now I can try changing the Speed-variable, right?`
`20:43.24`	`Elive_user97`	`thanks`
`20:43.29`	`Elive_user61`	`hi all`
`20:43.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`with the program called synclient you can try different settings`
`20:44.06`	`Elive_user97`	`ok, where do I find it? (is there a place where I normally find programs?)`
`20:44.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`hi Elive_user61`
`20:44.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`one sec Elive_user97 i have to enable mine so i can see the output from the app`
`20:44.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`its command line`
`20:44.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`run man synclient to see the options`
`20:45.07`	`Elive_user97`	`ok`
`20:45.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`brb`
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`20:46.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok`
`20:46.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`synclient -l will list all available optoins`
`20:46.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`to change an option do this`
`20:47.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:47.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`or similar`
`20:47.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`minspeed is what you want to make larger to increase the speed`
`20:47.55`	`Elive_user61`	`hwo know under what is compiled elive ?`
`20:48.08`	`Elive_user97`	`this is great! LockedDrags I'll have to turn on as well...`
`20:48.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user97, after you figureout what setttings you want then you can put them in the xorg.conf`
`20:49.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user61, what do you mean?`
`20:49.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`architecture?`
`20:49.31`	`Elive_user97`	`will do (after I've installed) - thanks a lot LinuxNIT, Elive is the first liveCD I've tried that could use my 1680x1050 lcd and now with this friendly welcome I'll have to give it e real try. thanska again!`
`20:49.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`youre quite welcome`
`20:50.11`	`Elive_user97`	`wohoo, now it's faste`
`20:50.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`there is a program called gsynaptics but it dosent work well for me`
`20:50.15`	`Elive_user97`	`*faster`
`20:50.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`you may have better luck`
`20:50.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`personally i love the twofinger scroll option`
`20:50.42`	`Elive_user97`	`this seems to work well - so cream is like notepad for a windowsjunkie like me?`
`20:50.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`put two fingers on the pad and they become a scroll bar :)`
`20:50.52`	`Elive_user61`	`whatosis use to develope ?`
`20:51.07`	`Elive_user97`	`twofinger scroll option - never heard of it but will try, sounds cool`
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`20:52.13`	`mathmanp`	`Elive_user61, debian etch`
`20:52.38`	`Elive_user97`	`I'm used to double-clicking and dragging two simulate holding down left mouse button and dragging on a real mouse - can this be done via synclient?`
`20:52.59`	`Elive_user61`	`if i want to develop under elive tools existe?`
`20:53.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user97, i have never found a way to do so on my brothers alps pad... that dosent mean it cant be done... you may have to google`
`20:53.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`i dont know.`
`20:53.43`	`Elive_user97`	`will do`
`20:55.08`	`mathmanp`	`Elive_user61, I think you can get every tool debian uses, elive uses debian repos for non-native stuff.`
`20:57.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user97, want to see something interesting with the touchpad?`
`20:57.45`	`Elive_user97`	`depend on what you mean by interesting :)`
`20:57.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`run this: synclient -m 1`
`20:58.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`then move your finger close to the pad`
`20:58.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`it will sense your finger before you touch it`
`20:58.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`20:58.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`creepy`
`20:58.49`	`Elive_user97`	`wohaa, it's a kind of magic :)`
`20:59.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`cntrl+c to end`
`20:59.23`	`Elive_user97`	`found it`
`21:02.47`	`Elive_user97`	`hmm another silly question - how do I turn off the pc speaker?`
`21:03.05`	`Elive_user97`	`beeps if I hit backspace one time too many :)`
`21:03.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`in the soundmixer`
`21:03.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`21:03.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`there is one in elpanel`
`21:03.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`elpanel is the toolbox icon on the launch ba`
`21:03.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`r`
`21:03.30`	`Elive_user97`	`strange tjing, it's already off in the mixer but I can still hear it`
`21:03.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`*bar`
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`21:03.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`you muted it?`
`21:03.45`	`Elive_user61`	`butwitheth elivecd ?`
`21:03.53`	`Elive_user97`	`tep muted`
`21:03.56`	`Elive_user97`	`*yep`
`21:04.09`	`Elive_user97`	`though I get an error when loading the mixer`
`21:04.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`creppy`
`21:04.24`	`Elive_user97`	`"An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for GNOME ALSA Mixer. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly."`
`21:04.30`	`Elive_user61`	`find`
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`21:06.22`	`Elive_user97`	`what was the path to xconf again? (is there a search function that I haven't found?)`
`21:06.36`	`Elive_user61`	`it is nice bieatiful`
`21:06.46`	`Elive_user97`	`xorg I meant`
`21:06.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`you can search with either "find" or "locate"`
`21:06.53`	`Elive_user61`	`a good engine`
`21:06.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`but the path is /etc/X11/xorg.conf`
`21:07.07`	`Elive_user97`	`thanks`
`21:07.08`	`Elive_user61`	`good night all`
`21:07.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`good night Elive_user61`
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`21:10.17`	`Pucho`	`Hola egrub ?`
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`21:15.32`	`Elive_user97`	`hmm, gthis time when trying to save xorg.conf I can't cause it's read-only, any workaround?`
`21:16.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`you have to be root user`
`21:16.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`type su in the terminal before opening the file`
`21:16.27`	`Elive_user97`	`ah, forgot that. thanks`
`21:16.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`no problem`
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`21:20.49`	`elmo40`	`...`
`21:21.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`....`
`21:21.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`21:21.05`	`marcfp`	`mxao`
`21:21.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`21:22.23`	`marcfp`	`xao`
`21:22.25`	`marcfp`	`sorry`
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`21:48.23`	`stefano`	`hello!`
`21:48.37`	`keyra`	`stefano: hi`
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`21:49.34`	`stefano`	`keyra please, can you say me where i can download elive with slow server or bittorrent? i want to use last stable version..`
`21:49.39`	`Elive_user45`	`que impresionante esto`
`21:49.49`	`keyra`	`stefano: try http://google.com/linux`
`21:51.27`	`stefano`	`the last relase is 1.0 gem..right?`
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`21:53.15`	`Elive_user27`	`hi`
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`22:39.51`	`PrinceAMD`	`mathmanp, ping`
`22:41.33`	`mathmanp`	`PrinceAMD, pong`
`22:41.48`	`PrinceAMD`	`mathmanp, have u ever edit exhibit code?`
`22:42.06`	`mathmanp`	`PrinceAMD, nope`
`22:42.12`	`PrinceAMD`	`oh and PLEASE send me back ahh the patch for e17 i want to do it now, n the theme link`
`22:42.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`shade button thing`
`22:43.24`	`mathmanp`	`PrinceAMD, lower button, shade button is already possible, see flat-curve theme`
`22:43.57`	`PrinceAMD`	`lower button, explain`
`22:45.54`	`mathmanp`	`PrinceAMD, if you have a window e.g. maximized firefox over let's say a terminal and click the button firefox will go into the background.`
`22:47.54`	`PrinceAMD`	`oh...`
`22:47.57`	`PrinceAMD`	`COOL`
`22:48.16`	`PrinceAMD`	`mathmanp, have u ever used detour theme?`
`22:48.55`	`mathmanp`	`PrinceAMD, I used it a lot`
`22:49.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`kool`
`22:49.26`	`PrinceAMD`	`mathmanp, did u add shade button to it?`
`22:50.08`	`mathmanp`	`PrinceAMD, no, I don't really understand detours borders yet.`
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`22:50.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`mathmanp, yeah same here`
`22:51.43`	`mathmanp`	`PrinceAMD, I even failed to make a good looking border for default, anyway, you'll see I'm prepairing a tarball`
`22:52.00`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok`
`22:56.20`	`mathmanp`	`PrinceAMD, http://stashbox.org/26657/lower.tar.gz includes the patch and two themes.`
`22:57.05`	`PrinceAMD`	`downloading`
`22:57.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`mathmanp, chat in pm`
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`23:42.35`	`Bryanstein`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.53`	`Bryanstein`	`has that always been the channel ?`
`23:43.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`#elhiyaivemac?`
`23:43.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`where did you see that/`
`23:43.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`23:44.08`	`Thybo`	`loool`
`23:44.50`	`Bryanstein`	`when I logged into the channel`
`23:45.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`this channel?`
`23:45.10`	`Bryanstein`	`Topic for #elive is: Welcome to Elive, feel free to ask questions \|\| MacBook users please join #elhiyaivemac \|\|::::::::::::::: Elive Gem is OUT`
`23:45.16`	`Bryanstein`	`lol yes`
`23:45.29`	`*** topic/#elive by LinuxNIT -> Welcome to Elive, feel free to ask questions \|\| MacBook users please join #elivemac \|\|::::::::::::::: Elive Gem is OUT :::::::::::::::::\|\| Some unofficial torrents serving up bad or malicious versions of elive, make sure to your version of Elive is a official one, verify the authencity with the signature shared with the iso`
`23:45.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`thanks`
`23:46.01`	`Bryanstein`	`lol hehe...I thought it looked kind of odd`
`23:46.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`he probably just got his cursor in the wrong place some time :)`
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