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| 00:29.02 | Thybo | hello all :) |
| 00:29.16 | keyra | Thybo: hi |
| 00:29.49 | Thybo | apt kill keyra |
| 00:29.49 | apt | ACTION shoots a excited neutron gun at keyra |
| 00:29.52 | Thybo | apt mute keyra |
| 00:29.53 | apt | ACTION superglues keyra's lips together |
| 00:30.43 | Ezep_Notebook | apt cut Thybo's head |
| 00:30.56 | Thybo | apt boot Ezep_Notebook |
| 00:30.56 | apt | ACTION inconspicously shuffles over to get a straight line across Ezep_Notebook to the window above the dumpster, takes aim, and punts Ezep_Notebook out to where he belongs! |
| 00:31.01 | Ezep_Notebook | apt give me Thybo's head |
| 00:31.02 | apt | ACTION gives Thybo's head to ezep_notebook |
| 00:31.21 | Ezep_Notebook | apt kiss Thybo |
| 00:31.22 | apt | ACTION forces Thybo to give pr0t0cod7 a big kiss on the neck |
| 00:31.22 | Thybo | apt retrieve Ezep_Notebook 's intestines |
| 00:31.55 | Ezep_Notebook | apt kill #elive |
| 00:31.56 | apt | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-positrino gun at #elive |
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| 01:18.16 | Shinsten | ello ello |
| 01:20.45 | Shinsten | anyone out there? |
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| 01:33.49 | licensedorchid | hi folks |
| 01:35.37 | licensedorchid | hi apt |
| 01:35.39 | licensedorchid | hi keyra |
| 01:35.53 | keyra | licensedorchid: hi :) |
| 01:44.34 | licensedorchid | Well, fine. Fuck y'all. :D |
| 01:44.35 | NavegantE | Hi, people |
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| 01:46.19 | NavegantE | where to find themes for elive? |
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| 02:00.56 | NavegantE | well. thnanks but silent :) |
| 02:04.00 | NathanExplosion | HELLO? |
| 02:05.06 | DvineLord | sup |
| 02:06.23 | NathanExplosion | i have a confession to make |
| 02:06.30 | DvineLord | and what is that? |
| 02:07.01 | NathanExplosion | i'm wasted!! |
| 02:07.15 | DvineLord | hah |
| 02:07.51 | DvineLord | fun |
| 02:08.04 | NathanExplosion | FO REAL |
| 02:08.45 | DvineLord | beer? |
| 02:09.22 | NathanExplosion | YYYYYYeeeeaah |
| 02:10.58 | DvineLord | do u have a job? |
| 02:11.04 | NathanExplosion | nah |
| 02:11.08 | DvineLord | me neither |
| 02:11.14 | DvineLord | but i needa one sooo badly |
| 02:11.57 | NathanExplosion | y? |
| 02:12.33 | DvineLord | got alot of bills |
| 02:12.35 | DvineLord | and debt |
| 02:12.42 | DvineLord | and just royally screwed in general |
| 02:12.58 | DvineLord | and the doors of life are closing fast |
| 02:13.21 | NathanExplosion | they never close |
| 02:13.53 | DvineLord | yea |
| 02:13.58 | DvineLord | u just forget where the door is |
| 02:14.05 | Gwildor | or lose the key |
| 02:15.49 | NathanExplosion | keys are always where you las tput them |
| 02:16.47 | Gwildor | also the last place you look |
| 02:17.32 | NathanExplosion | these are metaphorical keys though |
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| 02:18.37 | DvineLord | kool |
| 02:18.45 | DvineLord | nlite xp cd |
| 02:18.49 | DvineLord | i hope i did a good job |
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| 02:47.44 | Limericist | howdy |
| 02:48.14 | Limericist | ntfs |
| 02:48.28 | keyra | Limericist: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 02:48.41 | Limericist | I love you too |
| 02:49.00 | velixzeen | :) |
| 02:49.43 | velixzeen | windows |
| 02:50.06 | velixzeen | vista |
| 02:50.16 | velixzeen | keyra? |
| 02:50.20 | Limericist | vodka |
| 02:50.49 | velixzeen | lol, keyra is ignoring me :( |
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| 03:15.18 | DvineLord | keyra toilet |
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| 04:09.20 | Limericist | has anyone here endeavored, or been successful to do a make live cd (mklivecd) with elive? |
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| 04:52.21 | Theoden-e17 | Ah - here we are in wonderful #Mime - where people practice NOT talking. |
| 04:59.48 | Ouch | hehe |
| 04:59.54 | Ouch | Theoden-e17, stop being weird |
| 05:00.06 | Ouch | hello Thanatermesis :) |
| 05:00.06 | Theoden-e17 | WHo? ME?? |
| 05:00.11 | Ouch | yeah you |
| 05:00.20 | keyra | Ouch: hi |
| 05:00.34 | keyra | Theoden-e17: Great Caesars Ghost...how many question marks do you need just to ask one question... |
| 05:00.46 | Theoden-e17 | Two |
| 05:00.47 | Ouch | lol |
| 05:00.56 | Ouch | apt kill keyra apt mute keyra |
| 05:01.04 | apt | ACTION shoots a excited quark gun at keyra apt mute keyra |
| 05:01.24 | Theoden-e17 | God I hate bots! :-[ |
| 05:02.36 | Ouch | hehe |
| 05:02.42 | Ouch | they love you yoo |
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| 05:17.20 | Theoden-e17 | Wb roxy |
| 05:19.10 | roxville | thx :) |
| 05:20.16 | Theoden-e17 | Roxy & Theo ... drinking buddies. |
| 05:20.43 | roxville | :) |
| 05:21.09 | roxville | i'll be a sleeping buddy in a sec..it's almost 1:30 here |
| 05:21.23 | Theoden-e17 | Damn - go to bed |
| 05:21.43 | roxville | i have been working on graphics for entrance themes... |
| 05:21.56 | roxville | the ones on get-e.org are so boring... |
| 05:22.19 | roxville | all people do, is add a background and change the colors of the default theme a bit |
| 05:22.32 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/detourmination.jpg |
| 05:22.34 | Theoden-e17 | WHere can you get cool ones though. |
| 05:22.42 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/fall-entrance.jpg |
| 05:22.51 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/radio-entrance4.jpg |
| 05:23.13 | roxville | Theoden-e17, elive already has the coolest one :) the one thana made |
| 05:23.18 | roxville | it is outstanding |
| 05:23.43 | roxville | but PrinceAMD and i are trying to do some otyhers now |
| 05:23.45 | Theoden-e17 | Those are nice rox |
| 05:24.06 | roxville | this is just the graphics i made... PrinceAMD will do the coding |
| 05:25.16 | Theoden-e17 | sweet |
| 05:25.49 | roxville | :) |
| 05:25.57 | roxville | ok peeps, have a good night :) |
| 05:26.06 | Theoden-e17 | Nitey nite |
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| 05:50.20 | KsRyno | hello |
| 05:50.34 | keyra | KsRyno: hi |
| 05:50.49 | KsRyno | anyone awake |
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| 06:09.48 | KsRyno | can anyone help me with the sources.list file |
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| 06:12.07 | wounsel | hi i was wondering why games dont work under elive? is there something i need to do to make this work? |
| 06:12.21 | wounsel | my game --warsow is extremely slow |
| 06:12.25 | wounsel | is it a driver problem? |
| 06:12.30 | wounsel | i have nvidia-glx installed |
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| 06:28.59 | Elive_user84 | l |
| 06:29.02 | Elive_user84 | hello |
| 06:29.12 | Elive_user84 | how do i get openGL games to work? |
| 06:29.17 | keyra | Elive_user84: hi |
| 06:29.33 | wounsel | hi |
| 06:29.44 | wounsel | do you know how to get openGL to work under elive |
| 06:30.01 | wounsel | keyra: i cant get compositing or Warsow to work |
| 06:30.06 | wounsel | Warsow is a game |
| 06:30.26 | wounsel | compositing is referring to the drop shadows and fancy effects |
| 06:32.37 | wounsel | does anyone know why my game will not work? |
| 06:32.41 | wounsel | it's slow as crap |
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| 06:42.56 | wounsel | how do i get compositing working? |
| 06:42.56 | PrinceAMD | wounsel hey |
| 06:43.12 | PrinceAMD | wounsel, what video card do u have? |
| 06:43.18 | wounsel | PrinceAMD: nvidia |
| 06:43.22 | wounsel | i have nvidia glx |
| 06:43.32 | wounsel | installed and enabled i believe |
| 06:43.36 | wounsel | installed for sure |
| 06:43.43 | wounsel | and xorg.conf says it's used |
| 06:43.44 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 06:43.46 | PrinceAMD | go |
| 06:44.02 | PrinceAMD | glxinfo |grep render |
| 06:44.25 | wounsel | evan@Astro1-Elive[~]$ glxinfo |grep render |
| 06:44.25 | wounsel | direct rendering: Yes |
| 06:44.25 | wounsel | OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GS/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! |
| 06:44.25 | wounsel | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.25 | wounsel | evan@Astro1-Elive[~]$ |
| 06:44.39 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 06:44.44 | PrinceAMD | it's working :) |
| 06:44.48 | wounsel | no |
| 06:44.55 | PrinceAMD | <wounsel> evan@Astro1-Elive[~]$ glxinfo |grep render |
| 06:44.55 | PrinceAMD | <wounsel> direct rendering: Yes |
| 06:44.56 | wounsel | when i try to turn it on |
| 06:45.02 | PrinceAMD | = 3d acceleration is on |
| 06:45.02 | wounsel | it says no |
| 06:45.08 | wounsel | but my game wont work |
| 06:45.12 | wounsel | -->warsow |
| 06:45.16 | wounsel | it doesnt work |
| 06:45.30 | PrinceAMD | <wounsel> evan@Astro1-Elive[~]$ glxinfo |grep render |
| 06:45.30 | PrinceAMD | <wounsel> direct rendering: Yes |
| 06:45.35 | PrinceAMD | ??? it says yet |
| 06:45.37 | PrinceAMD | ??? it says yes |
| 06:45.39 | wounsel | and when i try to turn on compositing, it tells me to check xdpyinfo |
| 06:45.49 | wounsel | so i check it |
| 06:45.49 | keyra | PrinceAMD: Ok, you only need one"?"to ask a question...lets be civilized here |
| 06:45.55 | PrinceAMD | well i dont know about compiz |
| 06:46.04 | keyra | PrinceAMD: Great Caesars Ghost...how many question marks do you need just to ask one question... |
| 06:46.20 | wounsel | anyways, the game is slow as crap |
| 06:46.23 | PrinceAMD | wounsel, warsow works for me n i have a old ati 9200 |
| 06:46.28 | wounsel | but everything looks right |
| 06:46.30 | PrinceAMD | maybe check games setting |
| 06:46.36 | wounsel | ive done it |
| 06:46.37 | wounsel | lol |
| 06:46.52 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 06:46.52 | wounsel | im doing glx-gears and it's slow too |
| 06:47.08 | PrinceAMD | past result for glxgrears |
| 06:47.22 | wounsel | it's not printing for some reason |
| 06:47.27 | wounsel | but it's glitchy as all get out |
| 06:47.35 | PrinceAMD | hm.. |
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| 06:47.49 | PrinceAMD | wounsel, maybe u need to get the drives from nvidia site |
| 06:47.58 | wounsel | hmm... |
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| 06:48.12 | wounsel | but i know theyre installed via synaptic |
| 06:48.25 | wounsel | maybe nvidia-legacy? |
| 06:48.28 | PrinceAMD | wounsel, n u can remove them via synaptic :) |
| 06:48.32 | PrinceAMD | try it |
| 06:48.38 | wounsel | k |
| 06:49.05 | PrinceAMD | wounsel, at this time everyone is sleeping so .... ppl would not really reply to u |
| 06:49.17 | wounsel | yeah |
| 06:49.23 | wounsel | i noticed noone was helping |
| 06:49.24 | wounsel | lol |
| 06:49.30 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 06:51.25 | wounsel | ive got the driver |
| 06:51.29 | wounsel | bout to install it |
| 06:51.46 | PrinceAMD | u'll have to reboot too |
| 06:52.40 | wounsel | i have to get to a blank terminal |
| 06:52.42 | wounsel | tty |
| 06:52.46 | wounsel | how do i do that? |
| 06:53.16 | wounsel | i have to kill X and get to terminal |
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| 06:54.01 | wounsel | sorry i went away |
| 06:54.15 | wounsel | PrinceAMD: do you know how i could get to a tty |
| 06:54.15 | wounsel | ? |
| 06:54.18 | PrinceAMD | wounsel press crlt+alt+f1 to f6 u can use any |
| 06:55.49 | wounsel | ok |
| 06:55.51 | wounsel | i got there |
| 06:56.08 | wounsel | how do i completely shut down my xserver? |
| 06:56.17 | wounsel | not just ctrlaltback |
| 06:56.25 | wounsel | b/c i need it to stay down |
| 07:12.18 | DvineLord | http://futurist.se/gldt/ |
| 07:12.23 | DvineLord | pretty kool page |
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| 07:22.13 | Elive_user31 | Elive Rocks! |
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| 08:41.50 | DvineLord | thats nuts |
| 08:41.58 | DvineLord | didnt know just anyone could edit wikipedia |
| 08:42.05 | DvineLord | i thought u would atleast have to register or something |
| 08:42.59 | PrinceAMD | G night all |
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| 08:52.53 | Elive_user24 | Greetings. |
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| 08:58.00 | anquietas | Hm. I would like to copy some files from /mnt/windows_C/ to /mnt/hda1/ ...but Elive refuses to do that. Why? |
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| 09:18.36 | wasynyt_mac | good day everyone |
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| 09:22.07 | NoneOf | hey channel |
| 09:22.13 | wasynyt_mac | good day |
| 09:23.19 | NoneOf | a short hint for the next version or a wiki: setting up a printer on a windows network, printer via samba sharing is a bit tricky. It needs the following things |
| 09:23.29 | NoneOf | a valid account at the windows host |
| 09:23.33 | keyra | NoneOf: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Network_Printing_using_Linux |
| 09:23.57 | NoneOf | and the printer has to be set up via smb://Username:password@host/printershare |
| 09:24.08 | wasynyt_mac | NoneOf sorry but i not the one responsible for wiki :S |
| 09:24.22 | wasynyt_mac | so i really cant do anything about it |
| 09:24.31 | wasynyt_mac | you need to fin d the person who is |
| 09:24.45 | wasynyt_mac | so the changes can b emade immediatly if found right |
| 09:24.52 | NoneOf | if you connect to localhost:631 you reach cups, and you look at the settings - it shows only smb://host/printershare |
| 09:25.28 | NoneOf | the foomatic gui shows smb://user:pass@host/printershare... it need to be explained in the settings, else the printer wont work |
| 09:25.41 | wasynyt_mac | yeah |
| 09:25.48 | wasynyt_mac | but i cant do anything about it |
| 09:26.01 | wasynyt_mac | changes to elive system are only made by thana |
| 09:26.20 | wasynyt_mac | and i dont know the person responsible for wiki |
| 09:26.21 | NoneOf | yeah, i think the channel get logged - so he for sure reads what i wrote :) |
| 09:26.52 | wasynyt_mac | well i guess he cant really read all th elogs.. |
| 09:26.56 | wasynyt_mac | *the |
| 09:27.09 | wasynyt_mac | think about how much we generate each day |
| 09:27.15 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
| 09:27.16 | NoneOf | it was a long hard way to find out why the goddamn system didnt work, the username:pass in front of the uri does the job. without this it wont. mmmh, |
| 09:27.33 | wasynyt_mac | mhh |
| 09:27.35 | NoneOf | maybe ur right. but i think its an important problem - maybe you can paste him this |
| 09:28.09 | wasynyt_mac | yeah i ageree this is something that should be looked at |
| 09:28.16 | NoneOf | if users get the printer not to work they may pissed and give up. i didnt - nothing is impossible ... :) |
| 09:28.33 | NoneOf | it only needs more time then planned |
| 09:28.34 | NoneOf | :) |
| 09:29.28 | NoneOf | and keyra yes, i know about linux printing. but using a smb shared printer arent really linux printing.... sharpen your filters ... :) |
| 09:29.29 | wasynyt_mac | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:29.42 | keyra | NoneOf: I AM real... you stupid bot |
| 09:29.47 | wasynyt_mac | and bugs like this need to be fixed |
| 09:30.02 | NoneOf | lol, that was a good one |
| 09:30.38 | NoneOf | thats not really a bug, it depends on cups - and printing are always a bit difficult ... |
| 09:32.16 | NoneOf | i remember good ole times when u had manually to set up printer, a2ps and all the tools needed .... now its almost easy :) |
| 09:32.30 | wasynyt_mac | well |
| 09:32.42 | wasynyt_mac | keyra is a bot |
| 09:32.56 | keyra | wasynyt_mac: you think so ? |
| 09:32.56 | wasynyt_mac | and printing is a mysterious thing |
| 09:33.02 | NoneOf | i know this, so sonya is .. :) |
| 09:33.18 | wasynyt_mac | even on windows and mac |
| 09:33.34 | wasynyt_mac | sonya ? |
| 09:33.50 | NoneOf | the sidux channelbot :) |
| 09:34.08 | wasynyt_mac | ahh |
| 09:34.14 | wasynyt_mac | well how should i know ;P |
| 09:34.17 | wasynyt_mac | never been there |
| 09:34.55 | NoneOf | its my main system at the time, but i get more and more addicted to enlightenment :) |
| 09:35.46 | wasynyt_mac | no wonder |
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| 10:01.19 | anquietas | Hey |
| 10:02.05 | anquietas | I want to copy some files from /mnt/windows_C/ to /mnt/hda1/ ... but Elive doesn't do it. How can I solve this problem? |
| 10:05.54 | Elive_user53 | what filesystem are hda1 and where is the destination ? |
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| 10:07.25 | wasynyt_ | are you sure you have read wwrite permissions on the linux file system |
| 10:07.29 | wasynyt_ | ? |
| 10:09.02 | wasynyt_mac | if not then either copy the files there as root or give yourself read write permissions |
| 10:10.41 | DvineLord | i had an iffy time using windows partitions in elive |
| 10:10.46 | DvineLord | i think i got it to work eventually |
| 10:11.00 | DvineLord | i think i had to enable it |
| 10:11.07 | DvineLord | then do a chkdsk |
| 10:11.09 | DvineLord | i donno |
| 10:11.22 | DvineLord | owell |
| 10:11.32 | wasynyt_mac | if he can read the windows disk then there is no problem on that part |
| 10:11.55 | wasynyt_mac | but he must also have read write permissions in order to acces the hda1 linux partition |
| 10:12.07 | wasynyt_mac | or do you not agree ? |
| 10:12.57 | Elive_user53 | right, read on windows and at least read/write on linux. he has it on /home/username |
| 10:13.25 | DvineLord | oh |
| 10:13.50 | DvineLord | there is a ntfs-3g switch to allow people otehr then root to read/write |
| 10:14.04 | keyra | DvineLord: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 10:14.04 | wasynyt_mac | if he has read write on linux part and read on windows there is nothing that should stop him copying |
| 10:14.14 | Elive_user53 | dont write on ntfs, only in cases u really really really need it |
| 10:14.39 | Elive_user53 | write on a stick, write on the linux partiton, but never never never --- maybe for disinfecting windows or so |
| 10:14.46 | anquietas | Back. Sorry, I had to leave for a moment. |
| 10:14.47 | wasynyt_mac | heh |
| 10:14.47 | DvineLord | yea im in windows now and got two security descriptors that are locked when i am currently trying to defrag |
| 10:14.51 | DvineLord | i dont know how to get rid of them |
| 10:15.08 | Elive_user53 | and so you want to defrag under linux ??? |
| 10:15.10 | Elive_user53 | your kidding |
| 10:15.11 | wasynyt_mac | anquietas <wasynyt_mac> if he can read the windows disk then there is no problem on that part |
| 10:15.11 | anquietas | hda1 is formatted with the reiserfs filesystem. windows_C is ntfs. |
| 10:15.11 | wasynyt_mac | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:15.15 | DvineLord | no |
| 10:15.20 | DvineLord | im defragging in windows |
| 10:15.22 | keyra | Elive_user53: Ok, you only need one"?"to ask a question...lets be civilized here |
| 10:15.39 | Elive_user53 | use an image program, image the drive, reboot with an PE cd and restore the image |
| 10:15.44 | wasynyt_mac | DvineLord why are you defragging |
| 10:15.53 | DvineLord | testing out apps |
| 10:15.53 | Elive_user53 | then u may get rid of, but the locked files keep locked |
| 10:15.55 | wasynyt_mac | it wont speed ntfs system |
| 10:16.11 | DvineLord | i dont really think u even needa defrag an ntfs partition |
| 10:16.17 | DvineLord | specially if its just for data |
| 10:16.19 | DvineLord | not system |
| 10:16.30 | wasynyt_mac | nope never |
| 10:16.42 | wasynyt_mac | file system fragentation is good actually |
| 10:16.44 | DvineLord | i just do it cause i like to see the blocks move |
| 10:16.45 | DvineLord | =) |
| 10:16.49 | wasynyt_mac | when you think how it works |
| 10:16.55 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
| 10:16.59 | wasynyt_mac | that is a good reason |
| 10:17.12 | anquietas | Mh. I think I don't have write permission for hda1. |
| 10:17.17 | anquietas | How can I change that? |
| 10:17.20 | DvineLord | im trying oo defrag |
| 10:17.32 | Elive_user53 | wasynyt_mac, thats not true. ntfs keeps files almost unfragmeted --- but if u download from p2p or irc or some other, the system dont know the lenght before - so it fragments the files. if your drive are full and windows doesnt find enough unfragmented room - it fragments too. so ... defrag doesnt speedup are wrong |
| 10:18.08 | DvineLord | i used old defragger once |
| 10:18.13 | DvineLord | then ran windows defrag |
| 10:18.20 | DvineLord | said the hdd was 100% fragmented |
| 10:18.27 | DvineLord | i think it was old norton defragger |
| 10:18.29 | DvineLord | not sure |
| 10:18.43 | Elive_user53 | DvineLord, new are great .... ultimate defrag and stuff. it cant move swap and filesystem locked files but all others yes |
| 10:18.48 | DvineLord | but some defrag based on say file modification etc |
| 10:18.53 | DvineLord | which i could care less about |
| 10:18.58 | wasynyt_mac | but you still have to remember that file system fragmentation is the preferred action.. as if the system was not fragmented files could not be adjusted... so you could not add anything new to existing files |
| 10:19.34 | wasynyt_mac | and Elive_user53 give yourself a name /nick new_nick |
| 10:19.43 | Elive_user53 | oh shit |
| 10:19.52 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 10:20.20 | NoneOf | DvineLord, resort on modification, use, size and so far .... |
| 10:20.37 | DvineLord | id wanna resort on just size probably |
| 10:20.59 | DvineLord | since when u dl off say ftp i usually keep server date |
| 10:21.22 | DvineLord | and when extracting archives it usually keeps packaged dates also |
| 10:21.45 | NoneOf | DvineLord, it all depends on the progs u are using |
| 10:21.49 | DvineLord | yea |
| 10:21.55 | NoneOf | some ftp clients keep the original data, some dont |
| 10:21.56 | DvineLord | this one doesnt seem to have options for that |
| 10:22.05 | DvineLord | usually there is a choice i think |
| 10:22.06 | NoneOf | some archivers keeps the data . some dont |
| 10:22.35 | NoneOf | look at windows total command. you can keep fileatributes on transmit or you can use system date... and so far |
| 10:22.46 | anquietas | Aw, damn. Okay, I can copy the files now. The problem is, that I have two HDDs here. A small one and a large one. I want to copy the important files from the large to the small, and format the large in order to install elive there. After this is done, I wish to access my important files [they'd be on the small HDD] from Elive. Will this work? |
| 10:23.00 | keyra | anquietas: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 10:23.24 | DvineLord | wtf keyra ur getting in the way |
| 10:23.46 | wasynyt_mac | anqui yes it can be done.. what is your file system on smaller ? |
| 10:24.20 | anquietas | Reiserfs. I just formatted it lately. |
| 10:25.07 | NoneOf | you know anquietas you can resize your old system and install both systems ? make a backup of important files first - better image drive ... then resize your windows and install elive parallel to windows |
| 10:25.12 | wasynyt_mac | and then when the files are copied use gparted during install to add it.. so when you are formating drives check that smaller hd, do not formate it but give it a mount point like /mnt/small |
| 10:25.55 | wasynyt_mac | that way you have elive with two native disks |
| 10:25.59 | wasynyt_mac | and no ntfs |
| 10:26.14 | keyra | wasynyt_mac: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 10:26.23 | wasynyt_mac | apt shoot keyra |
| 10:26.24 | apt | ACTION shoots keyra in the eye with a quantum singularity weapon! |
| 10:26.36 | anquietas | Good Lord. |
| 10:26.41 | wasynyt_mac | heh |
| 10:26.53 | wasynyt_mac | did you understand what i am trying to say |
| 10:27.30 | anquietas | I did. =D ... That 'Good Lord' was a reaction to apt's shooting at keyra. |
| 10:27.43 | wasynyt_mac | :P |
| 10:28.30 | DvineLord | quantum singularity weapons are kool |
| 10:28.42 | anquietas | Well, I'd love to play around, but as I have no means to make a backup and since the files are really pretty darn important ... |
| 10:29.26 | DvineLord | what the frill? |
| 10:29.47 | NoneOf | then now way .... make an image of the files on a 2nd disk. so you can restore all in worst case |
| 10:30.13 | DvineLord | 7z the whole hdd |
| 10:30.15 | DvineLord | =) |
| 10:30.21 | DvineLord | i bet thatd take weeks |
| 10:30.27 | NoneOf | how big is it ? |
| 10:30.43 | anquietas | 50 GB =D |
| 10:31.02 | NoneOf | usb2 external drive, 6-12 MB per minute |
| 10:31.07 | NoneOf | a hour or 2 |
| 10:31.18 | NoneOf | internal half of a hour |
| 10:31.49 | anquietas | Argh. |
| 10:31.51 | anquietas | Lunch. |
| 10:31.54 | wasynyt_mac | well i think it is easier just to copy the files to smaller and then install elive on the other and just mount the smaller |
| 10:32.09 | wasynyt_mac | if there is no need to windows |
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| 10:33.28 | NoneOf | wasynyt_mac, or copy to smaller drive, then reduce windows size on the bigger, then install elive and windows parallel |
| 10:33.34 | NoneOf | so he dont lost anything |
| 10:34.32 | wasynyt_mac | but in the end if he just want the file and NOT the windows he just needs to copy it and format and then mount the smaller |
| 10:34.46 | wasynyt_mac | and then all the hd space will be usable for elive |
| 10:34.48 | wasynyt_mac | ! |
| 10:36.04 | NoneOf | yes, but if he forgot to copy something - account data, keys for programs and stuff - those are lost |
| 10:36.26 | NoneOf | if installed paralles he can make much room for elive and later delete windows or new install |
| 10:52.04 | wasynyt_mac | if i remember correctly he has a masive 50 gig rar... |
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| 10:56.03 | NoneOf | wasynyt_mac, hhehehehe, ok, thats bad to handle |
| 10:56.20 | NoneOf | i love 50gb rars, so useable .. :) |
| 10:57.56 | n4cht | has anyone had any luck with getting a prism2-based wireless adapter working with elive? i have one, but couldn't find any graphical tool to configure it, an ifconfig tells me there's no such device, despite the linux-wlan-ng package being installed and lsusb showing that the device is, in fact, present. |
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| 12:18.01 | anquietas | wasynyt_mac, what I have done so far was to format the smaller HDD to reiserfs to make enough space for the rar. Now I could copy it if I had root access; Then I could theoretically format the larger HDD and install Elive there. In order to be able to access my files I would have to set a mount point at the beginnig of the smaller HDD (one huge partition, actually). The question's just how. If I were to use gparted wrongly, I could delete |
| 12:18.01 | anquietas | my important files for ever. |
| 12:18.42 | wasynyt_mac | hmm |
| 12:18.44 | wasynyt_mac | lets see |
| 12:19.11 | wasynyt_mac | so your smaller hd is formated to reiserfs |
| 12:19.21 | wasynyt_mac | and bigger is ntfs |
| 12:19.32 | wasynyt_mac | there is nothing in smaller |
| 12:19.35 | keyra | wasynyt_mac: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 12:19.38 | anquietas | I applied gparted to it in such a way, yes. Whether it really is... hr, I don't know. |
| 12:19.42 | wasynyt_mac | start elive from cd |
| 12:19.50 | anquietas | I am already in LiveCD mode. |
| 12:19.54 | wasynyt_mac | check that both are mounted |
| 12:20.05 | wasynyt_mac | then start console |
| 12:20.08 | wasynyt_mac | and |
| 12:20.24 | wasynyt_mac | browse to the windows partition to the folder your rar lies |
| 12:20.47 | anquietas | Yes. Using the CLI or the file-manager? |
| 12:21.01 | wasynyt_mac | as root cp yourfile.rar /mnt/reiserhd |
| 12:21.10 | wasynyt_mac | nope you dont need gui for this |
| 12:21.15 | anquietas | Ah. |
| 12:21.39 | anquietas | Can I copy a folder with the same procedure? I extracted my rar already on the larger HDD. |
| 12:21.47 | wasynyt_mac | cp -R |
| 12:21.57 | wasynyt_mac | if i remember correctly |
| 12:22.00 | wasynyt_mac | let me check |
| 12:22.33 | wasynyt_mac | yeah it is cp -R |
| 12:22.40 | wasynyt_mac | http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?cp |
| 12:22.49 | wasynyt_mac | for more info about copying |
| 12:23.00 | anquietas | cp -R myfolder /mnt/destinationhd |
| 12:23.02 | anquietas | ? |
| 12:23.29 | wasynyt_mac | cp -R /mnt/windowshs/my/folder /mnt/destination |
| 12:23.43 | keyra | wasynyt_mac: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 12:23.44 | anquietas | Mhm. Yes, of course. |
| 12:23.58 | wasynyt_mac | and do it as root |
| 12:24.07 | wasynyt_mac | so there will be less problems later |
| 12:24.08 | anquietas | It won't even work without it. |
| 12:24.12 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 12:24.23 | wasynyt_mac | then when it is in your linux hd do |
| 12:24.25 | wasynyt_mac | as root |
| 12:24.37 | wasynyt_mac | chmod -R 777 /folder |
| 12:24.50 | anquietas | What does this do? |
| 12:24.50 | wasynyt_mac | it will give everyone all acces to that folder |
| 12:25.00 | wasynyt_mac | so any acount can acces ot |
| 12:25.01 | anquietas | Ah. Cool to know. |
| 12:25.06 | wasynyt_mac | *it |
| 12:25.19 | anquietas | 777 shall be that number? |
| 12:25.48 | wasynyt_mac | yeah.. it give all acces to everyone |
| 12:25.54 | anquietas | Okay. |
| 12:26.04 | anquietas | Thank you! |
| 12:26.08 | wasynyt_mac | and -R part tells that the changes will applied to everything in that folder |
| 12:26.09 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 12:27.35 | wasynyt_mac | brb |
| 12:27.49 | anquietas | Alright. |
| 12:29.37 | anquietas | wasynyt_mac, there is one additional question I'd like to ask. During the installation of Elive I will be asked to set directories like /home and /usr or /usr/local; What do they do exactly? Do I need all of them? What do you suggest me to use? ...I deeply desire to sustain a clean and well working system ... and I am probably going to install a load of packages and various scientific stuff that could end in a huge mess. How can I keep all |
| 12:29.37 | anquietas | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.24 | wasynyt_mac | back |
| 12:30.45 | wasynyt_mac | i will |
| 12:30.46 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 12:30.54 | wasynyt_mac | well you need three partitions |
| 12:31.07 | wasynyt_mac | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.13 | wasynyt_mac | "/" |
| 12:31.16 | wasynyt_mac | "swap" |
| 12:31.21 | wasynyt_mac | "/home" |
| 12:31.34 | wasynyt_mac | about 10 gig for "" |
| 12:31.38 | wasynyt_mac | "/" |
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| 12:31.50 | wasynyt_mac | 1-2 gig for swap |
| 12:31.57 | wasynyt_mac | and rest for /home |
| 12:32.05 | wasynyt_mac | that will keep your system clean |
| 12:32.31 | anquietas | Mhm. Swap can be likened to a sort of virtual RAM? |
| 12:32.36 | wasynyt_mac | yes |
| 12:32.46 | wasynyt_mac | you really dont need much more than 2 gig |
| 12:33.03 | wasynyt_mac | 1 is enough.. for most things |
| 12:33.24 | wasynyt_mac | and then you can add that smaller reiser hd in to /mnt |
| 12:33.28 | wasynyt_mac | with gparted |
| 12:33.48 | wasynyt_mac | name it like /mnt/important |
| 12:33.55 | anquietas | My 'large' HDD has 300GB so I will likely choose 3GB for SWAP because there are some applications I shall probably use that could require it. |
| 12:34.19 | wasynyt_mac | hmm |
| 12:34.30 | wasynyt_mac | how much ram do you have |
| 12:34.37 | wasynyt_mac | and what are you planning to run |
| 12:34.39 | anquietas | Not much, sadly. 512MB. |
| 12:35.01 | wasynyt_mac | wel then the 2 gig more like the way to go.. |
| 12:35.18 | anquietas | CAD/CAM/CAS/CG applications and simulation software for computational fluid dynamics and such... |
| 12:35.24 | wasynyt_mac | :S |
| 12:35.37 | wasynyt_mac | well i strongly recomend you to get a lot more ram |
| 12:35.38 | anquietas | ^^ |
| 12:35.54 | wasynyt_mac | 512 + cad = disaster |
| 12:35.59 | anquietas | Indeed. |
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| 12:36.24 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
| 12:36.33 | wasynyt_mac | good timing Ouch |
| 12:36.38 | wasynyt_mac | and good afternoon |
| 12:36.46 | anquietas | Haha! Indeed, that was funny. |
| 12:36.50 | wasynyt_mac | yeah |
| 12:37.01 | anquietas | I will buy a new computer soon, I think. The RAM problem is going to solve itself. |
| 12:37.05 | wasynyt_mac | done copying ? |
| 12:37.11 | wasynyt_mac | well could be |
| 12:38.12 | anquietas | Money is a crucial factor for the problem's soon solution that is currently not yet fulfilled. |
| 12:38.49 | wasynyt_mac | dont buy laptop nor celeron/sentrino and you will get wuite good |
| 12:39.54 | anquietas | Thanks for the advice |
| 12:40.03 | anquietas | Okay, ahm, the copying... |
| 12:40.09 | anquietas | I am on it. A moment, please. |
| 12:40.14 | wasynyt_mac | yeah |
| 12:40.22 | wasynyt_mac | it will not be done in a second |
| 12:40.23 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
| 12:40.57 | wasynyt_mac | can you see it progressing in the console window ? |
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| 12:41.23 | anquietas | I used the GUI. It's about to collect the files. |
| 12:41.32 | wasynyt_mac | ahh ok |
| 12:42.04 | anquietas | One hour remaining and ... steadily decreasing. |
| 12:42.26 | anquietas | Will take about half an hour I guess... |
| 12:42.39 | wasynyt_mac | k |
| 12:43.37 | wasynyt_mac | and before you format |
| 12:43.46 | wasynyt_mac | double check that the files are copied |
| 12:43.57 | wasynyt_mac | by booting the live cd system |
| 12:44.50 | anquietas | Yes. |
| 12:45.29 | wasynyt_mac | and if those files are still in the reiser hd... it can be thought as succesfully copied |
| 12:45.54 | anquietas | Are there better file systems than reiserfs? |
| 12:46.29 | wasynyt_mac | hmm |
| 12:46.43 | wasynyt_mac | dunno.. reiser is quite good all arounder |
| 12:46.52 | anquietas | Yup. |
| 12:47.04 | roxville | http://www.osnews.com/story.php/18358/MEPIS-to-Switch-from-Ubuntu-to-Debian/ |
| 12:47.18 | keyra | roxville: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 12:47.21 | roxville | wow! |
| 12:47.34 | wasynyt_mac | yeah |
| 12:48.03 | wasynyt_mac | you really cant base your system on something that is constantly changing |
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| 12:49.05 | anquietas | Heh. |
| 12:49.24 | roxville | well this is what some people have come to expect... constant change |
| 12:49.42 | wasynyt_mac | well |
| 12:49.44 | roxville | contradiction in terms |
| 12:49.59 | wasynyt_mac | hmm |
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| 12:50.52 | Elive_user42 | hi everybody! any suggestion for a good terminal server client that runs under elive? |
| 12:51.21 | Elive_user42 | i want to connect to a win2000 desktop... |
| 12:51.43 | Elive_user42 | i have to, correct... ;) |
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| 12:53.55 | roxville | hmm... |
| 12:54.15 | wasynyt_mac | what are you thinking |
| 12:54.30 | roxville | this is not my table, sorry |
| 12:54.49 | anquietas | o.O |
| 12:54.52 | roxville | but if you have patienece to hang out for a while, i'm sure you'll find an answer |
| 12:55.25 | wasynyt_mac | that could be |
| 12:57.10 | roxville | "The fact is Dapper was updated with security fixes, but not with new versions of the applications." |
| 12:57.12 | roxville | wow |
| 12:57.33 | roxville | wasynyt_mac, do you have a tip for Elive_user42 about terminal servers? |
| 12:57.44 | wasynyt_mac | not a slightest idea |
| 12:58.06 | wasynyt_mac | i have never try to do such thing |
| 12:58.47 | anquietas | 21 minutes remaining. |
| 12:59.15 | anquietas | Hr. It's transferring my Stargate shows right now. :P |
| 12:59.37 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
| 13:00.03 | Elive_user42 | no problem, i've tried rdesktop and is pretty good... |
| 13:00.08 | wasynyt_mac | k |
| 13:00.14 | wasynyt_mac | hopw it works for you |
| 13:00.17 | Elive_user42 | but without gui im'm feel naked :D |
| 13:00.18 | wasynyt_mac | *hope |
| 13:00.31 | wasynyt_mac | well gui's arent everything |
| 13:00.56 | Elive_user42 | for a newbie is everything! T_T |
| 13:01.09 | anquietas | No. ;P |
| 13:01.17 | anquietas | GUIs are not always better. |
| 13:01.40 | Elive_user42 | well, i know but... they help! |
| 13:01.52 | wasynyt_mac | dunno about that either |
| 13:02.18 | wasynyt_mac | guis can be very confusing |
| 13:02.18 | roxville | lol |
| 13:02.18 | roxville | i agree... |
| 13:02.41 | roxville | i gui, therefore i gimp :) |
| 13:02.41 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
| 13:02.43 | Elive_user42 | indeed. but i remember a good remote desktop connection in ubuntu 7.04 |
| 13:02.52 | Elive_user42 | and it works very fine |
| 13:03.01 | wasynyt_mac | vnc... |
| 13:04.32 | wasynyt_mac | but now i have to go.. see you later |
| 13:05.21 | anquietas | Ciao |
| 13:05.27 | anquietas | Thanks for your help! |
| 13:05.41 | roxville | seeya wasynyt_mac :) |
| 13:05.42 | wasynyt_mac | your welcome |
| 13:06.57 | roxville | hauskaa ....something.... |
| 13:07.09 | roxville | not good ....losing it all... |
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| 13:17.56 | Begasus | re |
| 13:18.06 | anqui-away | Ciao. =D |
| 13:18.27 | Begasus | cya ;) |
| 13:22.39 | roxville | "Microsoft produced a version of BASIC that was so messed up that even now, brief exposure can cause insanity." |
| 13:23.17 | Elive_user42 | lol |
| 13:23.26 | roxville | :) |
| 13:23.46 | roxville | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070730120109643 |
| 13:23.49 | Begasus | didn't they start with BASIC? :P |
| 13:24.01 | roxville | that was in one of the comments to this |
| 13:24.12 | roxville | Begasus, oh no |
| 13:24.19 | Elive_user42 | even chuck norris i guess! :D |
| 13:24.28 | roxville | you mean "invent"? |
| 13:24.43 | roxville | LOL |
| 13:24.47 | Elive_user42 | :D |
| 13:25.11 | Begasus | hehe |
| 13:25.38 | roxville | well they are trying to kill PDF now |
| 13:26.12 | roxville | with ODF |
| 13:26.14 | Begasus | next victem ... |
| 13:26.48 | roxville | i did not know this... but it explains why all win users HATE java... |
| 13:26.51 | Begasus | prob with linux distro's is that there ar way to many to start a real batle |
| 13:27.02 | roxville | "Microsoft almost killed Java at birth by the simple method of producing a ever so slightly incompatible version when they could have just provided the necessary extensions via the built in mechanism (but which would have not caused the compatibility problems that apparently was the aim all along.)" |
| 13:33.10 | Elive_user42 | can i install a GTK+-2 app written for gnome under elive? |
| 13:33.25 | Elive_user42 | running e17, of course |
| 13:36.30 | roxville | of course you can |
| 13:36.48 | roxville | most of the apps are gtk |
| 13:38.17 | Elive_user42 | ok! thx! :) |
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| 13:38.41 | Elive_user42 | i've found a graphical gui for rdesktop! |
| 13:38.49 | roxville | cool! |
| 13:39.03 | Elive_user42 | hope it works... |
| 13:39.33 | Begasus | there's a BeOS one on BeBits ... maybe that can be ported over ;) |
| 13:41.29 | Elive_user42 | funtastic! it works! now that's the question: how can add an icon in the Internet apps menu? |
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| 13:57.46 | roxville | <Elive_user42> funtastic! it works! now that's the question: how can add an icon in the Internet apps menu? |
| 13:57.51 | roxville | apt make-eap |
| 13:57.52 | apt | somebody said make-eap was http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 13:58.04 | roxville | read that, Elive_user42 |
| 13:58.34 | Elive_user42 | ok! thx! |
| 13:59.25 | roxville | :) |
| 14:10.21 | Elive_user42 | adding icons on menus it's possible with entangle , right? |
| 14:10.33 | MaximilianoADL | buenos dias / good morning all |
| 14:10.50 | roxville | Elive_user42, yes |
| 14:11.19 | roxville | buenos dias MaximilianoADL |
| 14:11.36 | Elive_user42 | ok, done! very good! i've finally a terminal server ready to go! wow! :D |
| 14:11.39 | MaximilianoADL | roxville, :) |
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| 14:27.17 | Elive_user42 | i have a OKI C7300 laser network printer... but elive doesn't have an appropriate driver.. how can i solve it? |
| 14:27.31 | keyra | Elive_user42: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Network_Printing_using_Linux |
| 14:28.36 | roxville | Elive_user42, to that i have no answer, sorry |
| 14:33.05 | wasynyt_mac | good afternoon peopel |
| 14:33.08 | wasynyt_mac | *people |
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| 14:33.33 | Begasus | 'lo wasynyt_mac |
| 14:34.23 | anquietas | Back. |
| 14:34.30 | anquietas | -^.^- |
| 14:34.42 | anquietas | Hello Begasus |
| 14:34.46 | wasynyt_mac | anquietas how did it go ? |
| 14:35.01 | Begasus | managed to make your backup anquietas ? |
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| 14:35.22 | anquietas | I was away. ^^ Transfer was completed a few minutes before I left. |
| 14:35.43 | wasynyt_mac | k |
| 14:35.44 | anquietas | I am going to reboot Elive to check whether the file transfer went successfully or not. |
| 14:35.49 | wasynyt_mac | k |
| 14:38.07 | Elive_user21 | hi, i have a problem running the elive livecd. The file I downloaded was not an ISO image but just folders named base,base.bak and so on. |
| 14:38.21 | keyra | Elive_user21: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 14:38.37 | wasynyt_mac | where did you download it ? |
| 14:39.05 | Elive_user21 | have to look up |
| 14:39.29 | Elive_user21 | tuxdistro.com |
| 14:39.51 | wasynyt_mac | odd |
| 14:40.00 | wasynyt_mac | so it really was not *.iso ? |
| 14:40.25 | Elive_user21 | no, just folders, autorun ect |
| 14:40.30 | Begasus | bugger ... haven't find the pron yet ... :P |
| 14:40.37 | wasynyt_mac | :/ |
| 14:40.40 | Elive_user21 | was in a .rar archive |
| 14:41.28 | wasynyt_mac | hmm odd.. have you tried renaming it as a .iso |
| 14:41.50 | Elive_user21 | the folder ? |
| 14:41.50 | wasynyt_mac | and then try to check the mdf5 |
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| 14:42.22 | Elive_user62 | Yup. |
| 14:42.27 | wasynyt_mac | nice |
| 14:42.29 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 14:43.08 | anquietas | Mhm. Files -seem- to be complete. XD Goodness knows. |
| 14:43.43 | wasynyt_mac | you really should check that everything is as it should |
| 14:43.49 | wasynyt_mac | then -> install :D |
| 14:44.09 | anquietas | Well, not much could have happened. |
| 14:44.23 | anquietas | Files are there. Same amount, same folder size. |
| 14:44.33 | wasynyt_mac | ahh then you are good to go |
| 14:44.36 | Elive_user21 | how do i check the mdf5 ? |
| 14:44.49 | wasynyt_mac | just remember not to format it ;P |
| 14:44.50 | anquietas | There are a couple of apps available to do that... |
| 14:45.06 | Elive_user21 | ok i will try |
| 14:45.07 | Begasus | terminal ... md5sum |
| 14:45.16 | Begasus | --> filename |
| 14:45.17 | Begasus | ;) |
| 14:45.27 | anquietas | termin- jup, Begasus, for example. XD |
| 14:45.37 | Begasus | ;) |
| 14:45.50 | anquietas | Was about to type exactly that. ^^ |
| 14:45.52 | Elive_user21 | i am currentlz using the virtual machine |
| 14:46.06 | anquietas | It's not exactly "virtual". |
| 14:46.22 | anquietas | If you are referring to the LiveCD OS. |
| 14:47.18 | anquietas | wasynyt_mac, now I should set the mount point, before I initiate the installation process. |
| 14:47.26 | Elive_user21 | no i am currently typing in the vmware version. i wanted to try it before i use the live cd |
| 14:47.35 | wasynyt_mac | that might come in handy |
| 14:47.37 | anquietas | Ah. Okay. ^^ Sorry, didn't know that. |
| 14:47.49 | Elive_user21 | but my live cd does not boot |
| 14:48.18 | wasynyt_mac | but i am not sure if the installer really looks at the partiotion table.. so be carefull when using gparted |
| 14:48.31 | Begasus | does your pc boot from cd? |
| 14:48.49 | Elive_user21 | normally, yes |
| 14:49.08 | Begasus | at what speed did you burn the cd? |
| 14:49.12 | Elive_user21 | 4x |
| 14:49.17 | Begasus | that's ok |
| 14:49.21 | Begasus | rw? ;) |
| 14:49.37 | Elive_user21 | yes |
| 14:49.50 | Begasus | well those shouldn't be a prob ... |
| 14:50.22 | anquietas | I will unplug the smaller HDD, to make certain that merely the larger HDD is being subjected to the aforementioned modifications. |
| 14:50.43 | wasynyt_mac | that sounds good |
| 14:50.45 | Elive_user21 | when trying to boot it says, Could not load DOS! |
| 14:50.50 | anquietas | o.O |
| 14:50.50 | wasynyt_mac | you can add the smaller later |
| 14:50.52 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 14:51.10 | wasynyt_mac | you have a bad iso |
| 14:51.12 | wasynyt_mac | ! |
| 14:51.30 | anquietas | Probably. Elive_user21, do you have the official version? |
| 14:51.51 | Elive_user21 | from tuxdistro.com |
| 14:51.55 | anquietas | Mh. |
| 14:52.47 | Begasus | what's wrong with yours wasynyt_mac ? :P |
| 14:52.48 | Elive_user21 | where can i get another one ? |
| 14:53.03 | anquietas | Elive main homepage. |
| 14:53.14 | wasynyt_mac | Begasus nope mine is ok |
| 14:53.20 | Begasus | :)) |
| 14:53.22 | wasynyt_mac | elive_users us bad |
| 14:53.24 | wasynyt_mac | *is |
| 14:53.59 | Elive_user21 | why am i ? |
| 14:54.06 | Elive_user21 | oh got it |
| 14:54.08 | anquietas | You are not. Yours is. |
| 14:54.09 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 14:54.09 | Elive_user21 | sry |
| 14:54.12 | anquietas | XD |
| 14:54.15 | wasynyt_mac | nohtinf |
| 14:54.20 | wasynyt_mac | *nothing |
| 14:54.21 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 14:54.24 | Begasus | this is getting confusing ... :P |
| 14:54.38 | anquietas | Hehe. |
| 14:55.40 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
| 14:55.49 | wasynyt_mac | those can do anything |
| 14:56.13 | wasynyt_mac | just step away from the computer when the biohazard sign coms up |
| 14:56.20 | Begasus | hehe |
| 14:56.39 | Begasus | making backups when your short on diskspace isn't a good thing :P |
| 14:56.51 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
| 14:56.53 | anquietas | I am going to interrupt the connection to the smaller HDD in a few minutes time. Catch you all later. |
| 14:56.57 | anquietas | *wave* |
| 14:57.05 | wasynyt_mac | 0/ |
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| 14:57.20 | anquietas | O_o |
| 14:57.34 | Begasus | w00t .. another member on zeta-games ;) |
| 14:57.45 | wasynyt_mac | zeta-games ? |
| 14:57.50 | Begasus | looks like people still like some of the older games ;) |
| 14:57.55 | wasynyt_mac | anquietas ? |
| 14:58.05 | anquietas | Me? |
| 14:58.08 | Begasus | yeah ... doing some game ports (SDL mostly) there ;) |
| 14:58.15 | wasynyt_mac | hmm k |
| 14:58.22 | anquietas | I don't get it, but fine... |
| 14:58.22 | wasynyt_mac | what do you have ? |
| 14:58.29 | Begasus | hehe |
| 14:58.30 | wasynyt_mac | 0/ this |
| 14:58.34 | Begasus | what? |
| 14:58.40 | wasynyt_mac | games |
| 14:58.51 | Begasus | :P |
| 14:59.07 | anquietas | Heh, more or less the past couple of lines. |
| 14:59.21 | anquietas | I'm leaving now. ^^ Ciao |
| 14:59.23 | Begasus | lol |
| 14:59.26 | Begasus | cu anquietas |
| 14:59.29 | Begasus | tl ... |
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| 15:00.04 | anquietas | Wait. |
| 15:00.15 | anquietas | How can I set the mount point to the smaller HDD? |
| 15:00.23 | wasynyt_mac | hmm |
| 15:00.42 | wasynyt_mac | mount /dev/hda1n |
| 15:00.45 | wasynyt_mac | ahh |
| 15:00.50 | wasynyt_mac | su |
| 15:00.58 | anquietas | sudo mount /dev/hda1 |
| 15:01.27 | anquietas | dev? |
| 15:01.36 | anquietas | ... not mnt? |
| 15:01.42 | anquietas | mount /mnt/hda1 ? |
| 15:03.35 | anquietas | Mount failed. According to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /mnt/hda1. |
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| 15:05.15 | Begasus | did you create a mountpoint first? |
| 15:05.34 | Begasus | mkdir /mnt/<nameforsmallhd> |
| 15:05.37 | anquietas | Hm. That's in fact what I try to do now. |
| 15:05.56 | Begasus | mount /<pathtosmallhd> /<mountpoint> |
| 15:06.25 | anquietas | mkdir: cannot create directory. File exists. |
| 15:06.33 | anquietas | It seems to have a mount point already. |
| 15:06.51 | Begasus | ps .. hda1 is the first hd |
| 15:07.04 | anquietas | hda1 is the smaller one. |
| 15:07.05 | Begasus | if it is the second hd you need hdb* |
| 15:07.10 | Begasus | ah k |
| 15:07.28 | Begasus | did you check if it isn't mounted already? ;) |
| 15:07.33 | anquietas | How can I? |
| 15:07.39 | Begasus | in Elive? |
| 15:07.42 | anquietas | Yes. |
| 15:07.48 | Begasus | use the filemanager ;) |
| 15:07.54 | anquietas | And then? |
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| 15:08.15 | Begasus | go to /mnt and check if it's listed there |
| 15:08.23 | anquietas | It is. |
| 15:08.52 | Begasus | double click to see if you can acces it .. |
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| 15:09.36 | anquietas | It is accessible. |
| 15:10.11 | Begasus | then it's mounted already ;) |
| 15:10.33 | anquietas | Oh. ^^ |
| 15:10.34 | anquietas | Fine. |
| 15:10.42 | anquietas | Then I will continue. |
| 15:10.44 | anquietas | Thanks |
| 15:10.45 | anquietas | Ciao |
| 15:10.48 | Begasus | np ;) |
| 15:12.03 | Begasus | what is best to use as a filesystem for dvd's? |
| 15:12.12 | Begasus | udf or iso 9660? |
| 15:15.09 | roxville | that's a google question Begasus |
| 15:15.14 | Begasus | hehe |
| 15:15.23 | roxville | mostly...coz i don't really know :D |
| 15:15.25 | Begasus | that's not the answer I was expecting ;) |
| 15:15.28 | Begasus | lol |
| 15:15.30 | Begasus | np ;) |
| 15:18.18 | Begasus | If you are creating DVD / CD movie or music for sharing with friends, so you 'd better stick to the most comptiable format: UDF 1.02. If you are just back up the DVD or files, then you can consider other advanced files systems like UDF2.0 or even MPV |
| 15:18.27 | Begasus | so udf seems the way to go ;) |
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| 15:21.39 | Begasus | good luck on that NicNac |
| 15:21.47 | Elive_user42 | the network printing doesn't seem to work. i tried to install a netw printer without success... :( |
| 15:22.01 | keyra | Elive_user42: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Network_Printing_using_Linux |
| 15:23.57 | Elive_user42 | that guide refers to a printer locally installed. i have a printer working stand alone via IP |
| 15:28.14 | roxville | elive_user42 keyra is a b.o.t |
| 15:28.41 | roxville | and she can be a bit ...annoying at times |
| 15:28.53 | roxville | but generallym she's a good girl :) |
| 15:29.52 | Elive_user42 | i know but... :) if someone can help me i agree :D |
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| 15:31.02 | roxville | hmmm it should be entrance that handles the login sound... |
| 15:31.32 | Elive_user42 | see you soon! bye! |
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| 16:17.26 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
| 16:17.40 | ogolisano | ciao a tutti |
| 16:18.01 | TuxMeister | come stai? |
| 16:18.05 | ogolisano | prima volta in irc |
| 16:18.17 | ogolisano | acc...ho beccato già un italiano? |
| 16:18.31 | ogolisano | bene! |
| 16:19.03 | TuxMeister | no, sonno rumano |
| 16:19.12 | ogolisano | rumeno? |
| 16:19.18 | TuxMeister | si |
| 16:19.26 | ogolisano | complimenti per il tuo italiano! |
| 16:19.35 | TuxMeister | i talk a bit of italian... I've been in milano many years ago |
| 16:19.46 | ogolisano | do you live in milano? |
| 16:19.46 | TuxMeister | I actually live in spain |
| 16:19.49 | ogolisano | ah |
| 16:19.53 | ogolisano | where? |
| 16:19.58 | TuxMeister | barcelona |
| 16:20.00 | ogolisano | wow |
| 16:20.26 | ogolisano | i think it's better than milano eh eh |
| 16:21.22 | ogolisano | stavo pensando di abbandonare ubuntu per passare ad elive |
| 16:21.31 | ogolisano | ...mi è sempre piaciuta questa distribuzione! |
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| 16:29.08 | Nesster | goodday. someone knows how to reset everything (theme, fonts, etc) as it was after install ? |
| 16:29.48 | Nesster | I tried elive-skel all but my windows and fonts aren't back to what they were |
| 16:30.02 | keyra | Nesster: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System |
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| 16:38.51 | marcfp | hello |
| 16:39.06 | keyra | marcfp: hi |
| 16:39.36 | Nesster | hey |
| 16:40.36 | marcfp | what means evading ? |
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| 16:40.49 | Nesster | get sway |
| 16:40.52 | Nesster | away |
| 16:40.55 | Nesster | i think |
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| 16:41.36 | Nesster | what is your home language marc ? |
| 16:41.50 | marcfp | Nesster: catalan |
| 16:42.18 | Nesster | ok. because i know french, i could have helped this way :D |
| 16:43.02 | Nesster | I was in spain last year, loved it. I'm from Canada |
| 16:43.41 | marcfp | i don't understand the ban of kainx |
| 16:43.50 | marcfp | but well ... |
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| 16:50.46 | Nesster | gbye |
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| 17:07.00 | marcfp | when i try to speak ... i'm banned ... i don't understand anything |
| 17:08.59 | marcfp | xD |
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| 17:10.19 | wasynyt | Theoden-e17 why ? |
| 17:10.22 | wasynyt | explain |
| 17:10.23 | wasynyt | ! |
| 17:10.27 | Theoden-e17 | lol |
| 17:11.55 | marcfp | it's a good reason |
| 17:13.50 | assasukasse | hi everyone, i was wondering if there is a way to make elive fonts look better...because on my lap they are a bit ugly.. |
| 17:13.58 | assasukasse | like hinting or something like that |
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| 17:26.34 | Quarky | 'eelo |
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| 17:26.56 | blanco | hola, alguien habla español?? |
| 17:27.10 | keyra | blanco: que tal ? |
| 17:27.19 | blanco | hola bota |
| 17:27.57 | blanco | necesito saber porque las fuentes de openoffice me salen tan grandes y como puedo cambiarlas |
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| 17:34.21 | Elive_user11 | Hmm. |
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| 17:35.20 | anquietas | Back. |
| 17:35.48 | unduality | anquietas, i cant find the settings for mousespeed. Do you know where it is? |
| 17:36.12 | anquietas | I would suggest you take a look at the Elpanel. |
| 17:36.28 | unduality | I looked in both elpannel and the config but i didnt see it. |
| 17:36.38 | anquietas | Not sure, but I surmise that such preferences should be found there... |
| 17:36.39 | anquietas | Hmm.. |
| 17:36.40 | unduality | i know it must be somwhere... |
| 17:36.45 | anquietas | It must be. |
| 17:36.50 | anquietas | Just where :P |
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| 17:37.32 | unduality | and the weird thin is that google want help me out either...i cant belive this... |
| 17:37.49 | Elive_user60 | way |
| 17:38.03 | anquietas | Hm. True. It's not in the Elpanel. |
| 17:38.15 | Elive_user60 | ok |
| 17:38.20 | anquietas | Hm? |
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| 17:39.43 | Nesster | elive-skel |
| 17:39.57 | keyra | Nesster: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System |
| 17:40.34 | anquietas | unduality, I think I have found something. |
| 17:40.40 | unduality | really? |
| 17:41.52 | anquietas | Yes. You must adjust the Acceleration Variable in the driver configurations for Synaptics. |
| 17:41.54 | unduality | I just saw that there should be something called "Keyboard and mouse" under "configuration panel" but in my elive version atleast there is nothing as such. |
| 17:42.04 | anquietas | Wait a moment. |
| 17:42.23 | unduality | ok |
| 17:43.31 | unduality | "Driver configurations for synaptics"? |
| 17:44.11 | anquietas | Mhh. |
| 17:44.16 | anquietas | How can I search for a file? |
| 17:44.33 | anquietas | You need to find xorg.conf, I think. |
| 17:44.45 | unduality | aha... |
| 17:44.50 | anquietas | Then change this variable 'Option "AccelFactor" "0.05"'. |
| 17:45.16 | Quarky-e | that file is located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:45.22 | unduality | And then just savethe file and restart x? |
| 17:45.23 | Quarky-e | fyi |
| 17:45.23 | anquietas | Great to know! |
| 17:45.28 | anquietas | Sort of. |
| 17:45.35 | anquietas | Let me try first. :P |
| 17:47.52 | Quarky-e | anquieta: don't forget to restart your wm after |
| 17:48.15 | anquietas | Works. |
| 17:48.35 | anquietas | Damn well. Great. I always wanted to change that! Thanks unduality! |
| 17:49.43 | anquietas | Open xorg.conf, scroll down to "Selection 'InputDevice'". |
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| 17:50.12 | anquietas | And add the aforementioned line. "Option "AccelFactor" "0.15"". |
| 17:50.33 | anquietas | 0.05 is standard. 0.15 is fast enough, for me at least. |
| 17:50.46 | unduality | Great! |
| 17:51.01 | anquietas | Does it work? |
| 17:51.08 | unduality | Thx alot man! I will try this out at oncd. |
| 17:51.11 | anquietas | =D Fine. |
| 17:51.26 | anquietas | You are very welcome. |
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| 17:54.12 | unduality | I ll exit x now. brb |
| 17:54.19 | anquietas | Just restart.... |
| 17:54.21 | anquietas | Ack, fine. |
| 17:55.19 | anquietas | I just -love- Elive. =D It's outstanding. |
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| 17:58.40 | anquietas | Yet another Telekom user... |
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| 18:04.11 | anquietas | Hr. I guess unduality put that line somewhere else. |
| 18:06.35 | Quarky-e | heh, or forgot the reason he restarted in the first palce |
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| 18:06.56 | anquietas | There he is. |
| 18:06.57 | Quarky-e | Here he is... |
| 18:07.00 | anquietas | Haha |
| 18:07.07 | anquietas | Did it work? |
| 18:07.26 | unduality | anquietas, nope. |
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| 18:07.29 | anquietas | Mhh. |
| 18:07.34 | anquietas | Okay, open the file again. |
| 18:07.50 | unduality | I got one touchpad and that is the synaptics driver.... |
| 18:08.26 | unduality | But today because my touchpad gave up breath i bought a trackball. Works great but is too fast.. |
| 18:08.39 | anquietas | Ah. Too fast it is... |
| 18:08.57 | anquietas | Does negative acceleration work here? :D |
| 18:09.03 | anquietas | Wait a moment, please. |
| 18:12.09 | anquietas | Hm. |
| 18:12.10 | unduality | In the xorg file there is "synaptics" as touchpad driver and then there is the driver "mouse" for the ps/2 trackerball it seems. Its writen under "configured mouse" |
| 18:12.17 | unduality | anquietas, |
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| 18:12.40 | anquietas | Yes. Hm. |
| 18:12.53 | anquietas | I can make my mouse faster, but not slower... |
| 18:13.15 | unduality | Mine wont get even faster or slower... |
| 18:14.23 | unduality | Strange there are gui settings for this in e16.. |
| 18:14.35 | anquietas | It works in E16? |
| 18:14.45 | anquietas | Well, E17 is still under construction. |
| 18:15.01 | unduality | I dont know but i think so, the option is in it. |
| 18:16.07 | unduality | Maybe it has to be don in the xorg-file then anyway after all. |
| 18:18.48 | anquietas | Hmm. |
| 18:18.58 | anquietas | Okay, I can't make it slower here, interestingly. |
| 18:19.12 | anquietas | Sorry =( |
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| 18:22.47 | unduality | anquietas, |
| 18:22.52 | anquietas | Yes? |
| 18:23.02 | unduality | Check this quote from the e17 page... |
| 18:23.13 | unduality | "There are also built-in graphical tools to control things like your screen resolution, your mouse speed and more. " |
| 18:23.16 | unduality | Hmmm |
| 18:23.24 | anquietas | Hmh. |
| 18:23.30 | unduality | :-) |
| 18:23.44 | unduality | Know i really want to know... |
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| 18:26.07 | anquietas | Hargh. |
| 18:26.15 | anquietas | There is nothing in the configuration panel. |
| 18:27.30 | unduality | No i cant find anything there either.. |
| 18:27.58 | anquietas | And the elive panel doesn't give much either... |
| 18:28.10 | unduality | but on the e17 user guide (http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_User_Guide), there is an unwritten chapter on "mouse acceleration". |
| 18:28.42 | anquietas | Do this: Open the bug reports and search for mouse and/or acceleration. |
| 18:28.56 | keyra | anquietas: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 18:29.01 | anquietas | Haha. |
| 18:29.04 | unduality | ok |
| 18:29.09 | anquietas | http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 18:29.41 | anquietas | http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=35&histring=mouse |
| 18:30.34 | anquietas | The last link is very helpful. |
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| 18:32.07 | unduality | interesting but is that only for the synaptics driver? The ps/2 driver called plainly "mouse" does it understand this? |
| 18:32.21 | keyra | unduality: thanks... bot :) |
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| 18:35.56 | unduality | anquietas, this is from my xorg file: http://hashbin.com/57f1.html (never mind the accel settings i just tried to see if it changed the speed, but it didnt) |
| 18:39.27 | wirechief | hello anquietas |
| 18:39.42 | keyra | wirechief: hi |
| 18:44.44 | wirechief | anquietas having mouse problems ? |
| 18:47.38 | unduality | Hi wirechief . Well his problems was fixed mine not. Do you know how to change mouse speed in e17? |
| 18:47.52 | keyra | unduality: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 18:48.16 | wirechief | i would think a setting in your xorg.conf would help |
| 18:48.38 | wirechief | does your mouse work fine in e16? |
| 18:49.49 | unduality | Hmm yeah we tried with the ""Option"AccelFactor""0.15"... but no luck |
| 18:50.06 | wirechief | my AccelFactor is = .025 |
| 18:50.32 | wirechief | MaxSpeed 3 |
| 18:50.42 | wirechief | MinSpeed .7 |
| 18:51.34 | wirechief | you might find it then too fast and have to adjust |
| 18:51.36 | unduality | .025 not 0.25 ? |
| 18:51.43 | wirechief | right |
| 18:52.08 | unduality | MaxSpeed i didnt know about. |
| 18:52.47 | wirechief | I have about 20 settings that are useable for snynaptic mouses |
| 18:53.22 | wirechief | what distros have you tried unduality ? |
| 18:53.40 | wirechief | some have faster mouse's than others |
| 18:53.55 | wirechief | elive's mouse is slow |
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| 18:54.37 | wirechief | i made mine fast but then put it back as it goes to fast. i use external wireless usb mouse |
| 18:54.57 | wirechief | that seemd to work best |
| 18:55.00 | unduality | Oh, now it is just elive, the only distro i use nowadays. My touchpad is dying so i bought a trackerball but the problem is that the pointer is too fast. |
| 18:55.21 | wirechief | ah |
| 18:55.50 | wirechief | well its really not made for mouse work, its for gameing |
| 18:57.29 | unduality | No this one is developed for mousing not gameing. |
| 18:57.44 | unduality | This is my xorg : http://hashbin.com/57f1.html |
| 18:59.00 | unduality | but the value i put for AccelFactor do not seem to do any difference. |
| 18:59.10 | unduality | Not getting even slower or faster. |
| 18:59.48 | wirechief | did you do a restart after you changed it? |
| 19:00.03 | unduality | do you think it has to do with the ps/2 device not being controlled with the synaptics driver or something like that wirechief ? |
| 19:00.15 | unduality | Yes. I restarted x |
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| 19:00.31 | unduality | (but just x) |
| 19:00.33 | wirechief | yes the ps/2 section would be the one i would think |
| 19:01.20 | wirechief | my settings dont have a ps/2 on this machine perphaps on my Desktop |
| 19:01.44 | unduality | Its written driver: "mouse" on the trackball and it is ps/2 |
| 19:02.08 | unduality | But the touchpad is driver "synaptics" |
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| 19:02.40 | wirechief | i can check my desktop settings |
| 19:02.58 | unduality | Thanx! |
| 19:03.30 | unduality | I will restart x so i will dissapear a moment. brb |
| 19:05.02 | wirechief | its booting up |
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| 19:07.34 | unduality | i have tried accelFactor ranging from 0.01 to 0.090 now but no luck wirechief . |
| 19:08.14 | wirechief | i think you need a Section for PS/2 mouse |
| 19:08.38 | wirechief | did you add this mouse after the initial install? |
| 19:09.48 | unduality | Yes, but elive had no problem findig it an using it. Everything works great even some additional buttons. |
| 19:09.53 | anquietas | hello wirechief |
| 19:10.07 | keyra | anquietas: hi |
| 19:10.14 | wirechief | anquietas, hello |
| 19:10.17 | anquietas | I have to apologise, for my presence was required elsewhere. |
| 19:10.29 | wirechief | i will paste what my desktop has for ps/2 |
| 19:10.39 | unduality | great. |
| 19:10.49 | anquietas | uduality, did it work? |
| 19:10.54 | anquietas | <unduality> |
| 19:11.02 | unduality | Wellcome back anquietas. |
| 19:12.22 | wirechief | http://paste.debian.net/33784 |
| 19:12.32 | unduality | No there is something strange going on with the ps/2 device not being interested in the changes i do in xorg. i have tried accelFactor ranging from 0.01 to 0.090 now but no luck. |
| 19:12.48 | wirechief | you need a ps/2 section |
| 19:12.52 | unduality | thanx wirechief |
| 19:13.06 | wirechief | changes to other sections wont affect the ps2 |
| 19:13.13 | anquietas | Mhm. |
| 19:13.44 | wirechief | my settings for that desktop do not have accelleration but i dont have elive on it. |
| 19:14.07 | anquietas | How can I make a screenshot? |
| 19:14.15 | wirechief | i dont have ps2 settings on any other computer, sorry. but that one i pasted should do something |
| 19:14.26 | wirechief | i use ksnapshot |
| 19:14.44 | anquietas | Mhh. |
| 19:14.45 | wirechief | there is another snapshot program but i dont know the name, |
| 19:14.55 | wirechief | apt-get install ksnapshot |
| 19:15.04 | anquietas | Section "InputDevice" |
| 19:15.04 | anquietas | Identifier"Configured Mouse" |
| 19:15.05 | anquietas | Driver"mouse" |
| 19:15.05 | anquietas | Option"CorePointer" |
| 19:15.05 | anquietas | Option"Device""/dev/input/mice" |
| 19:15.05 | anquietas | Option"Protocol""ImPS/2" |
| 19:15.07 | anquietas | Option"Emulate3Buttons""true" |
| 19:15.11 | anquietas | Option "AccelFactor""0.5" |
| 19:15.13 | anquietas | EndSection |
| 19:15.16 | anquietas | This is my section. |
| 19:15.21 | anquietas | (For PS/2) |
| 19:15.47 | anquietas | Thanks, wirechief. |
| 19:15.51 | wirechief | the identifiere needs to be "PS/2 Mouse" |
| 19:16.05 | anquietas | Does it? |
| 19:16.08 | unduality | scrot is default in elive for snapshot |
| 19:16.18 | wirechief | thats more distinct than mouse |
| 19:16.27 | anquietas | I copy and pasted it. No need for screenshots any more. ^^ |
| 19:16.39 | wirechief | unduality, ok but ksnapshot works fine |
| 19:16.41 | keyra | anquietas: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time |
| 19:17.00 | wirechief | it will use normal mouse settings not ps2 |
| 19:17.00 | unduality | ksnapshot is good. |
| 19:17.14 | wirechief | if you dont have a section for it |
| 19:17.21 | wirechief | yes it is debian |
| 19:17.46 | wirechief | actually better than the other you can focus it to any section of your screen |
| 19:18.02 | unduality | aha!! i will try to do some changes now. I will jump out and in of x so ill be back soon. |
| 19:18.09 | anquietas | Fine. |
| 19:18.14 | anquietas | Godspeed. |
| 19:18.16 | unduality | thnx |
| 19:18.46 | wirechief | yea hope it works, also did you backup your xorg.conf before making changes? |
| 19:18.59 | anquietas | =) ... hmm, wirechief, where are you from, if I may ask? |
| 19:19.15 | wirechief | I always have a backup ..Michigan where you from? |
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| 19:21.35 | wirechief | i have other tools that seem to work fine with enlightenment so far that is incourageing. |
| 19:21.47 | wirechief | they are all debian. |
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| 19:23.13 | wirechief | anquietas, so, where are you from ? |
| 19:23.29 | wirechief | anquietas ping |
| 19:26.39 | anquietas | I am from Hungary. Sorry had to leave again for a moment. :D |
| 19:27.24 | anquietas | wirechief ping |
| 19:27.37 | wirechief | yo |
| 19:27.48 | anquietas | Hr. I thought that's a command. :P But it's a physical ping. |
| 19:28.05 | wirechief | its a nice chime |
| 19:28.10 | anquietas | Yup. |
| 19:28.13 | wirechief | Hungry |
| 19:28.18 | wirechief | are you there now? |
| 19:29.18 | anquietas | No. Well, I am originally from Hungary, but currently living in Germany. |
| 19:29.33 | wirechief | what part of Germany? |
| 19:29.38 | anquietas | Bavaria. |
| 19:29.39 | wirechief | I love Germany... |
| 19:29.43 | wirechief | ah that is nice. |
| 19:29.57 | wirechief | mit da zukspeeks |
| 19:30.02 | wirechief | spelling |
| 19:30.27 | anquietas | :D What does it mean in English? |
| 19:30.32 | wirechief | So are you a student or what kind of work |
| 19:30.36 | wirechief | mountains |
| 19:31.07 | anquietas | "Zugspitze" "coogshpitsa" |
| 19:31.13 | wirechief | tall mountain bist zugspeeks but wrong spelling i know |
| 19:31.19 | wirechief | thats it |
| 19:31.29 | wirechief | i have been there |
| 19:31.37 | anquietas | Ah,cool, when? |
| 19:31.38 | wirechief | to Berchasgarden |
| 19:31.48 | anquietas | I am still a highschool student... sadly. |
| 19:31.52 | wirechief | 1963 |
| 19:31.59 | wirechief | i am old sadly |
| 19:32.42 | wirechief | 3 years in Schwienfurt |
| 19:33.09 | anquietas | Age doesn't affect one's true capabilties. At least, not significantly. |
| 19:33.16 | anquietas | <capabilities> |
| 19:33.30 | anquietas | "Schweinfurth" and... "Berchtesgarden", I guess. |
| 19:34.28 | wirechief | Schwienfurt is correct it is near checolsaliva border |
| 19:34.35 | anquietas | Ah. |
| 19:34.44 | anquietas | Well, there's a "Schweinfurth", too. :P |
| 19:35.07 | anquietas | I haven't heard of "Schwienfurt" yet. |
| 19:35.08 | wirechief | oh, well i guess that is so. it is near Wurtzburg |
| 19:35.20 | anquietas | Possibly. |
| 19:35.29 | anquietas | Haven't been to any of these cities. |
| 19:35.41 | wirechief | Schwienfurt is very famous for ballbearings made for Nazi's in WWII |
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| 19:36.02 | wirechief | they were never successfully bombed |
| 19:36.21 | wirechief | they are famous |
| 19:36.31 | wirechief | the people there are wonderful |
| 19:36.43 | anquietas | Hmhm. There you see my lacking knowledge in history. |
| 19:37.11 | wirechief | I grew up with WWII going on, but never knew much about it. |
| 19:37.18 | wirechief | it was a very sad time. |
| 19:37.38 | wirechief | so many innocents were affected. |
| 19:38.10 | anquietas | True. Unfortunately that's the side effect of a war. (Or the actual reason? ...I don't know.) |
| 19:38.48 | anquietas | I was born a long time after the end of WWII. |
| 19:38.57 | wirechief | yes. |
| 19:39.49 | wirechief | but i think Hungry was under Communism for a long time and i seem to remember there was a lot of people hurt there. |
| 19:40.53 | wirechief | but now things are pretty good there, in Germany (i think) maybe too many un-employed though |
| 19:41.39 | wirechief | i met someone online that actually knew exactly where i was stationed while in Germany and they are not happy with the employment now. |
| 19:41.54 | wirechief | finding jobs is hard. |
| 19:42.08 | wirechief | you need a good education. |
| 19:47.09 | anquietas | Mhm. I am going to study maths and physics, if everything is as planned. |
| 19:48.07 | anquietas | The problem of unemployment possibly affects the entire european continent. |
| 19:48.34 | anquietas | A good qualification is essentially necessary, or will be in the near future. |
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| 19:48.57 | Elive_user95 | anquietas, wirechief ? |
| 19:49.04 | anquietas | Affirmative. |
| 19:49.06 | Elive_user95 | Lol it is unduality. |
| 19:49.06 | wirechief | hello |
| 19:49.12 | Elive_user95 | My x broke. |
| 19:49.15 | anquietas | lol. |
| 19:49.20 | keyra | wirechief: hi |
| 19:49.21 | Elive_user95 | im on livecd :-) |
| 19:49.26 | wirechief | i was afraid of that did you make a backup |
| 19:49.29 | anquietas | Mhm, restore your backup... |
| 19:49.40 | anquietas | <xorg.conf> |
| 19:50.06 | Elive_user95 | because i cant remember where the xorg.conf is located (lol) |
| 19:50.16 | anquietas | Hehe |
| 19:50.23 | anquietas | etc/X11/ |
| 19:50.25 | wirechief | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.27 | wirechief | conf |
| 19:50.38 | Elive_user95 | ahh, how could i forget... |
| 19:51.01 | Elive_user95 | Without x things get harder... |
| 19:51.02 | wirechief | save the current one as xorgbad.conf |
| 19:51.08 | Elive_user95 | ok |
| 19:51.17 | wirechief | i think i know what might be |
| 19:51.36 | anquietas | Hm. Namely? |
| 19:52.47 | wirechief | item 8 |
| 19:53.04 | wirechief | SendCoreEventws |
| 19:53.11 | wirechief | SendCoreEvents |
| 19:53.18 | wirechief | i would take that out |
| 19:53.34 | wirechief | you can use mcedit to edit the file |
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| 19:54.38 | anquietas | Hm. |
| 19:54.54 | anquietas | Oh, well. |
| 19:55.07 | anquietas | I should continue to solve my problems here... |
| 19:55.31 | wirechief | you can first restore backup or make changes in the modified one |
| 19:55.51 | wirechief | are you un comfortable with command line stuff ? |
| 19:56.58 | wirechief | I think that sendcoreEvents is dealing with kernel and elive doesnt use it so take it out. |
| 19:57.52 | wirechief | also check to see if /dev/psaux actually exists |
| 19:58.01 | wirechief | if not then take that line out too |
| 19:58.48 | Elive_user95 | Yes not very good on the commandline but im in livecdmode now so that is ok, i changed back the identifier again (to "Configured Mouse"), but maybe i shouldnt, maybe we should try the SendCoreEvents trick? (What does that do?) |
| 19:58.54 | Elive_user95 | wirechief, |
| 19:59.11 | wirechief | if nothing works then use backup or edit out the changes you made. you can use mcedit |
| 19:59.21 | wirechief | it talks to kernel |
| 19:59.35 | wirechief | if kernel has that function |
| 19:59.45 | wirechief | but it might not so just remove it |
| 20:01.18 | wirechief | with livecd you need to navigate to the actual elive install in etc |
| 20:01.40 | wirechief | livecd has its own /etc |
| 20:01.50 | Elive_user95 | Hmm, maybe i can try to see how the livecd autoconfigured the ps/2? Maybe there is something interesting info there? |
| 20:02.02 | wirechief | yes that would do the trick |
| 20:02.27 | Elive_user95 | Ok, you was thinking about the same thing while i was writing i see now. |
| 20:02.33 | wirechief | if possible copy/paste it into a file for use when you get to installed file |
| 20:02.45 | Elive_user95 | good idea |
| 20:02.47 | keyra | wirechief: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time |
| 20:03.01 | wirechief | lol keyra we know that. |
| 20:04.02 | wirechief | i have had to muck around like that too, it is a bit discomforting at first but then you will learn navigating around with command line |
| 20:04.07 | Elive_user95 | there is no x11 in the etc of livecd so i will have to look somewhere else |
| 20:04.30 | wirechief | no X11 |
| 20:04.42 | wirechief | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.53 | anquietas | No, you have to look in mnt/hd*#/, I suppose. |
| 20:04.56 | wirechief | but it wont be there, as that is livecd spot |
| 20:05.04 | wirechief | yes |
| 20:05.22 | anquietas | Heh, that reminds me of mounting. |
| 20:05.31 | wirechief | he is right. /mnt/hdX/etc/X11 |
| 20:05.45 | wirechief | whatever the hda is you have elive on |
| 20:06.36 | Elive_user95 | oh but that is fixed allready. |
| 20:06.38 | anquietas | Well, hdXY, whereas X determines the boot type of the HDD (a=master, b=slave) and Y the partition index. |
| 20:06.51 | wirechief | well elive mounts all the partitions that is nice |
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| 20:06.57 | Elive_user95 | just a moment |
| 20:07.17 | anquietas | You must be in root mode to be given write permission. |
| 20:07.25 | wirechief | yes |
| 20:07.26 | wirechief | su |
| 20:08.05 | anquietas | I am back in a moment. |
| 20:13.14 | Elive_user95 | Ok im finished. I will reboot the livecd one more time to try to choose another driver for the trackball because in this way it gives priority to my broken touchpad instead of ps/2 |
| 20:13.21 | Elive_user95 | brb |
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| 20:13.43 | Elive_user21 | Yay. There are times when nothing works as desired. |
| 20:14.26 | anquietas | wirechief, still here? |
| 20:14.47 | wirechief | yes |
| 20:15.08 | anquietas | You don't happen to know how to mount a HDD? |
| 20:15.24 | wirechief | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.51 | wirechief | mkdir /mnt/hdax |
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| 20:15.56 | DvineLord | multi lock on is the collectest gif ever |
| 20:16.19 | wirechief | then mount /dev/hdax /mnt/hdax |
| 20:16.47 | wirechief | x is the number you are using |
| 20:17.36 | wirechief | anquietas, elive mounts all your partitions so it should already be there |
| 20:17.40 | anquietas | There are two partitions, hdb1 and hdb3, for my Elive system, and one additional HDD with one huge partition hda1. The problem is that when I am using my HD-version of Elive, the OS does not recognize the other HDD/partition. On the other hand, the LiveCD does. |
| 20:18.11 | wirechief | hmm thats curious |
| 20:18.22 | wirechief | is it sata ? |
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| 20:18.30 | anquietas | It is IDE. |
| 20:18.36 | wirechief | ok |
| 20:18.56 | wirechief | well then just use the newly created folder /mnt/hdx |
| 20:19.16 | anquietas | What do you mean exactly? |
| 20:19.31 | wirechief | do mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 |
| 20:19.40 | wirechief | if hda1 is the one you want to mount |
| 20:19.56 | wirechief | make /mnt/hda1 folder |
| 20:20.12 | wirechief | with cd /mnt then mkdir hda1 |
| 20:20.13 | Ezep | mkdir /mnt/hda1 |
| 20:20.22 | wirechief | that too |
| 20:21.17 | anquietas | That's not working, because the LiveCD thinks that /dev/hda1 were already mounted, and that the directory /mnt/hda1 were already to exist. |
| 20:21.32 | wirechief | does it? |
| 20:21.48 | wirechief | cd /mnt/hda1 |
| 20:21.48 | anquietas | It does. It does exist. And it is mounted. But merely if I run the LiveCD. |
| 20:22.07 | anquietas | Works. |
| 20:22.14 | wirechief | oh wait you are talking like when you boot up to elive it doesnt see it |
| 20:22.31 | wirechief | its not in your fstab then |
| 20:22.39 | anquietas | True. |
| 20:22.54 | wirechief | do you want it mounted automatically ? |
| 20:23.06 | anquietas | Yes. |
| 20:23.16 | wirechief | then add a line in the fstab |
| 20:23.25 | anquietas | How? |
| 20:23.39 | anquietas | Forgive my stupidity. =( |
| 20:23.50 | wirechief | i will give coding |
| 20:25.17 | wirechief | /dev/hda7/homereiserfsdefaults02 |
| 20:25.17 | wirechief | /dev/hda10/mnt/hda10ext3 defaults,auto 0 2 |
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| 20:25.34 | wirechief | hda7 is reiserfs |
| 20:25.46 | wirechief | hda10 is ext3 |
| 20:25.48 | anquietas | What do these lines do? |
| 20:25.52 | Elive_user73 | HOLA A TODOS |
| 20:25.55 | wirechief | sample lines |
| 20:26.17 | wirechief | you can make 0 1 instead of 0 2 |
| 20:26.29 | wirechief | then fsck checks it during boot |
| 20:26.34 | Elive_user73 | AGUIEN ABLA ESPAÑOL EN ESTA SALA |
| 20:26.38 | anquietas | Hm. I am reluctant to try things because there are a couple of very important files on that HDD I would hate to lose... |
| 20:26.47 | anquietas | Yo no hablo espanol... |
| 20:27.04 | Elive_user73 | BIEN, PERO ESCRIBE, ES LO MAS IMPORTANTE |
| 20:27.10 | wirechief | then if you dont feel comfortable just mount manually until you gain insight and feel comfortable |
| 20:27.14 | Elive_user73 | DE DONDE ERES |
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| 20:27.37 | anquietas | How can I mount manually? |
| 20:27.43 | wirechief | that coding is in my fstab herer |
| 20:27.54 | anquietas | Wait a moment. I should return to my Elive. |
| 20:28.19 | wirechief | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.06 | wirechief | anquietas, is the hda1 a ext3 filesystem ? |
| 20:29.19 | wirechief | or is it ntfs ? |
| 20:29.22 | anquietas | It is reiserfs. |
| 20:29.33 | keyra | wirechief: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 20:29.42 | wirechief | ok well i gave a sample of both |
| 20:29.52 | anquietas | Yes. I am right back. |
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| 20:33.30 | Elive_user15 | putos >D |
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| 20:33.41 | anquietas | Yay. |
| 20:33.52 | anquietas | I'd love to cuddle you. :D |
| 20:33.57 | anquietas | It worked, wirechief. |
| 20:34.07 | anquietas | Thank you very much for your assistance. |
| 20:34.16 | wirechief | ok great good to hear have fun |
| 20:34.34 | anquietas | Yup. |
| 20:34.40 | wirechief | that issue you had though with the mouse needs more trys |
| 20:34.58 | anquietas | It was unduality's issue. |
| 20:34.58 | wirechief | but you are proabably ready to forget it for a while |
| 20:35.08 | wirechief | oh, well ok. |
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| 20:35.47 | wirechief | many more tricks to learn.. |
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| 20:36.01 | anquietas | I succeeded in making my mouse faster by inserting the required Option line into the xorg.conf file. |
| 20:36.13 | wirechief | ok.. |
| 20:36.18 | wirechief | thats great. |
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| 20:36.27 | wirechief | i had to do that too. |
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| 20:36.44 | wirechief | but then it got too fast and kept jumping my cursor so i had to tame it |
| 20:37.04 | anquietas | Unfortunately negative acceleration, to slow it down, doesn't work. And this is unduality's problem... his trackball is too fast. |
| 20:37.42 | wirechief | also he has a ps/2 connected device and is not being read |
| 20:37.49 | anquietas | Hm. |
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| 20:38.09 | wirechief | that one statement killed it though |
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| 20:38.23 | wirechief | they seem to do mice differently |
| 20:38.38 | anquietas | Interesting, actually. Should there be something like a failsafe? Might be a nice feature to add to Elive. |
| 20:39.02 | wirechief | you can once you learn all the tricks |
| 20:39.25 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 20:39.37 | anquietas | I am still pretty new to it. |
| 20:40.19 | wirechief | you will get there, we all have had to learn the tricks. |
| 20:40.34 | wirechief | and use google it will help you a lot. |
| 20:41.04 | anquietas | True. Though some things require further explanation. Google isn't as interactive as another user is. :P |
| 20:41.14 | wirechief | yes. |
| 20:41.32 | wirechief | and if you make changes to critical files always back them up. |
| 20:41.57 | wirechief | i have copys of xorg.conf fstab sources.list and menu.lst |
| 20:42.11 | wirechief | i also do tar backups of my /home |
| 20:42.30 | wirechief | and i use rdiff-backup for a complete backup of everything |
| 20:42.39 | anquietas | Backups of all my files would surpass my HDD space available. |
| 20:42.52 | wirechief | i send all my backups to my Desktop |
| 20:43.08 | wirechief | i have little storage here |
| 20:43.23 | wirechief | upload it to Desktop at about 3mbps |
| 20:43.25 | anquietas | Hmhm. A 3TB external HDD with hot-swap SATA would rock. |
| 20:43.35 | wirechief | lol |
| 20:43.50 | wirechief | 1 tb would suffice |
| 20:43.58 | wirechief | $400 |
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| 20:44.07 | wirechief | maxtor makes one |
| 20:44.23 | wirechief | i have a 320gb on desktop |
| 20:44.37 | anquietas | Yup, saw one a few days ago. Sadly I couldn't buy it due to lacking essential financial resources. |
| 20:44.40 | wirechief | i have two 100 gig backup partitions |
| 20:44.53 | Ezep | too much xD |
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| 20:45.23 | wirechief | but that gets used up fast with rdiff-backup |
| 20:45.42 | anquietas | Hmh. My main HDD measures 300GB, and my most important files are on my second (smaller) HDD that has about 60GB of space. |
| 20:46.16 | Ezep | i have only 80gb xD |
| 20:46.20 | wirechief | are you booting two hd's |
| 20:46.24 | anquietas | Yes. |
| 20:46.26 | Ezep | and only 15 for linux |
| 20:46.48 | wirechief | i only have 8 gig for linux but use the 300 for storage |
| 20:47.20 | wirechief | with two HD's you can make backups simple |
| 20:47.41 | wirechief | going over network gets involved |
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| 20:50.27 | anquietas | rue, but one HDD (the smaller one) remains untouched, and it carries the most essential data for my daily life; So, even if I were to kill my OS (which is on my larger HDD), it would be highly unlikely that the other HDD would be affected. |
| 20:50.32 | anquietas | <True> |
| 20:50.46 | anquietas | Hey unduality, how's it going/rolling? |
| 20:50.51 | unduality | Hi anquietas and wirechief Im back in x again. And will try to fix the issues from here, but some friends just showed up so ill have to do that a bit later. |
| 20:51.03 | anquietas | Understood. |
| 20:51.20 | wirechief | anquietas tar -cf - /home | gzip -c9 >/home/wirechief/SecureHome |
| 20:51.31 | unduality | cu later |
| 20:51.38 | anquietas | Catch you later, unduality. |
| 20:51.51 | wirechief | change as needed, you can make that go to the bigger hd |
| 20:52.14 | wirechief | that pipes it into a folder called SecureHome |
| 20:52.23 | anquietas | But the bigger HDD would be the one killed by me in a given situation. |
| 20:52.48 | wirechief | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.23 | wirechief | oh ok well you put that in a safe place |
| 20:53.43 | wirechief | also there is a program called pybackup that puts it on dvd or cd for you |
| 20:53.53 | anquietas | Not really safe, but better than being fully subjected to my premature programming attempts. :P |
| 20:53.53 | wirechief | i dont know if it works on elive though |
| 20:54.20 | wirechief | its a gnome program |
| 20:54.32 | anquietas | I will try to get an external HDD someday; This should solve the backup problem totally. |
| 20:54.32 | wirechief | i have used it on debian on my sidux |
| 20:54.40 | wirechief | not really |
| 20:55.03 | anquietas | Why not? Files on the external HDD are very unlikely to be affected. |
| 20:55.06 | wirechief | you have to be carefull with fat partitions you lose your permissions |
| 20:55.26 | anquietas | And if I were to format it to reiserfs? |
| 20:55.31 | wirechief | although if you tar the file as i gave you the code then its ok |
| 20:55.55 | wirechief | i dont have any externals with reiserfs |
| 20:56.02 | wirechief | reiserfs can be tricky |
| 20:56.31 | wirechief | there are those who feel it fails more often then ext3 i havent had enough experience with it |
| 20:56.56 | wirechief | i have a external formated with ntfs though |
| 20:57.05 | anquietas | My experience can well be equated to zero, thus I can solely agree with you. |
| 20:57.08 | wirechief | and ext3 |
| 20:57.10 | keyra | wirechief: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 20:57.43 | wirechief | i had a couple neat programs that gave me information on where the internet was failing and had to use the ntfs |
| 20:57.56 | wirechief | i have to use them in windows ugh |
| 20:58.24 | wirechief | but you do what ya gotta do. |
| 20:58.53 | anquietas | Yes, well, what causes the incompatibility between NTFS and Linux? |
| 20:59.09 | wirechief | i have also clone a 10gig HD with my Ipcop firewall/router and all its settings. |
| 20:59.14 | wirechief | microsoft |
| 20:59.26 | wirechief | they want your money |
| 21:00.01 | wasynyt | ,P |
| 21:00.03 | wirechief | Linux is much better than ntfs for so many reasons |
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| 21:00.51 | wasynyt | comparing kernel to filesystem is not understandable |
| 21:00.58 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 21:01.04 | marcfp | anquietas: i think that ntfs is now comptabile with gnu/linux |
| 21:01.06 | Chi11y | good evening |
| 21:01.13 | wirechief | anquietas if you use the coding i gave you can view your files, copy them back and do what ever you want with them without further commandline coding |
| 21:01.13 | wasynyt | nope it is not |
| 21:01.21 | marcfp | until kernel 2.6.5 ? may be ? |
| 21:01.41 | wasynyt | i think it will never be.. or might but it doesnt matter to me |
| 21:01.42 | wasynyt | ;D |
| 21:01.43 | wirechief | marcfp not completely, it works somewhat but is flaky |
| 21:01.46 | Chi11y | ntfs ir pure shit |
| 21:01.53 | Chi11y | is pure shit |
| 21:02.06 | wirechief | Chilly no it is filled with nuts too |
| 21:02.20 | Chi11y | yeh maybe a little |
| 21:02.27 | marcfp | mmm |
| 21:02.30 | wirechief | Chilly and big ones lol |
| 21:02.39 | Chi11y | yeh :P |
| 21:02.40 | Chi11y | xD |
| 21:02.55 | marcfp | wirechief: but you always can do a rm -rf /dev/hdXY, no ? :P |
| 21:02.56 | marcfp | xDDDDD |
| 21:03.03 | wirechief | i have used the differnt distros that support read/write to it but it still is full of crap |
| 21:03.19 | Chi11y | yup |
| 21:03.34 | wirechief | no, i use gparted |
| 21:03.42 | anquietas | Hehe, you do hold the opinion that Microsoft did this on purpose? =D Albeit the common view being the issue is caused by Microsoft intentionally, the most striking technical facts might rather have something to do with the requirements of the Windows framework to function well. Probably it wasn't designed this way merely to make people buy Windows instead of using Linux, but to have a well working FS for Windows itself. |
| 21:03.46 | Chi11y | and even if it is compatible it doesnt work always |
| 21:04.00 | marcfp | mmm, i have a problem with de borders of my aplications ... i don't have borders ... |
| 21:04.15 | marcfp | how i can restore my windows borders ? |
| 21:04.29 | keyra | marcfp: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 21:04.29 | Chi11y | anquietas: It may just be so :P |
| 21:04.39 | anquietas | Damn. I turned them off now, too. |
| 21:04.43 | Chi11y | keyra, ntfs |
| 21:04.45 | anquietas | How can I turn the bordes on again? |
| 21:04.57 | keyra | Chi11y: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 21:04.59 | anquietas | <borders> |
| 21:05.02 | marcfp | keyra: i'm using debian ;) |
| 21:05.28 | wirechief | marcfp what is your screensize ? |
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| 21:06.07 | marcfp | wirechief: my screensize ? |
| 21:06.10 | anquietas | Okay, I have my borders again. |
| 21:06.21 | wirechief | yes 1024x768 ? |
| 21:06.30 | marcfp | wirechief: yes, it is |
| 21:06.48 | anquietas | marcfp, doesn't it suffice to restart Enlightenment? |
| 21:07.03 | wirechief | try that see what happens |
| 21:07.16 | marcfp | anquietas: don't do anything |
| 21:07.38 | anquietas | Mh. |
| 21:07.50 | wirechief | hmm i have no "borders" on my desktop |
| 21:08.05 | wirechief | just a picture of outerspace |
| 21:08.08 | anquietas | Windows borders he talks about. |
| 21:08.22 | wirechief | like in windows xp ? |
| 21:08.31 | wasynyt | nope... "window" border |
| 21:08.34 | anquietas | Well, the usual frames around windows. |
| 21:08.43 | anquietas | There was one 's' too much... sorry. |
| 21:08.47 | wirechief | hmm i dont have it either |
| 21:08.49 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 21:08.53 | anquietas | :D |
| 21:09.06 | wirechief | kinda nice not having borders |
| 21:09.36 | anquietas | wasynyt, what was the command again to make my smaller HDD accessible by all users? |
| 21:09.47 | wirechief | marcfp i dont know .. |
| 21:10.02 | wasynyt | well as root chmod -R 777 /mnt/smallerhd |
| 21:10.04 | wirechief | chown |
| 21:10.12 | marcfp | wirechief: i don't know too :'( |
| 21:10.16 | anquietas | Thanks! |
| 21:10.38 | marcfp | i try to restart e17 |
| 21:10.52 | wirechief | marcfp are you in e17? |
| 21:10.58 | marcfp | wirechief: yes!! |
| 21:11.00 | marcfp | of course!! |
| 21:11.13 | wirechief | i thought that was just testing |
| 21:11.21 | wirechief | its not finished yet |
| 21:11.28 | marcfp | wirechief: yes ... it is ... |
| 21:11.40 | anquietas | Grand! It worked, wasynyt. |
| 21:11.42 | marcfp | but i like dangerous things ;) |
| 21:12.04 | wirechief | hmm well mine is like a house that is half built |
| 21:12.10 | anquietas | Back in a moment... |
| 21:12.17 | wasynyt | good good |
| 21:12.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:12.22 | wirechief | i will wait till its further along in developement |
| 21:12.56 | marcfp | i back in a little loop too ;) |
| 21:13.03 | wirechief | well its strecth time.. bye for now. |
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| 21:16.11 | anquietas | Hm. |
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| 21:19.41 | anquietas | Has anyone of you changed the repository yet? |
| 21:20.43 | Chi11y | nope |
| 21:21.15 | anquietas | Well, ... I did and can't access it. |
| 21:21.28 | Chi11y | >.< |
| 21:21.44 | anquietas | To repository.elive-systems.com |
| 21:22.15 | anquietas | -^.^- |
| 21:24.21 | anquietas | Is there a reason why it doesn't work? >_< |
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| 21:33.12 | NicNac | Hey guys |
| 21:33.54 | wasynyt | good evening NicNac |
| 21:33.57 | Chi11y | Hi |
| 21:34.13 | NicNac | dont suppose you know where the settings are kept for xchat? |
| 21:34.38 | Chi11y | ~/.xchat? :P |
| 21:34.52 | Chi11y | nah dont know =) |
| 21:35.00 | DvineLord | xhat2 |
| 21:35.02 | NicNac | I wanna set what channels it join's when I first click on it |
| 21:35.04 | DvineLord | xchat2 |
| 21:35.16 | Chi11y | you can do that in the network list |
| 21:35.35 | Chi11y | XChat > network list |
| 21:35.42 | Chi11y | select server |
| 21:35.47 | Chi11y | modify |
| 21:35.50 | Chi11y | there you have it |
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| 21:36.49 | NicNac | ahh yes your too good Chi11y |
| 21:36.52 | NicNac | brb |
| 21:36.54 | Chi11y | :) |
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| 21:37.16 | NicNac | yep works :) |
| 21:37.28 | Chi11y | :) |
| 21:37.32 | Chi11y | as always ;) |
| 21:37.40 | NicNac | so anything new in elive-land? :P |
| 21:37.54 | Chi11y | heh, not that I know |
| 21:38.02 | Chi11y | Im on Fedora currently |
| 21:38.16 | NicNac | 7? |
| 21:38.24 | Chi11y | yup :) |
| 21:38.39 | NicNac | I tried it, it's not a bad distro |
| 21:38.42 | Chi11y | I have lie every single DE you can think of installed xD |
| 21:38.47 | Chi11y | nope :) |
| 21:39.00 | Chi11y | a little strict on the file-types, tho |
| 21:39.17 | NicNac | I'm just shopping around for a bigger hdd so I can try more distros |
| 21:39.50 | Chi11y | I did a yum install *gnome* *kde* *box* when I was bored^^ |
| 21:40.06 | Chi11y | oh and *xfce* too |
| 21:40.36 | Chi11y | had a "few" dependency problems... <.< |
| 21:41.47 | Chi11y | NicNac what is your favorite distro (except elive)? |
| 21:42.03 | Chi11y | distro(s) |
| 21:42.04 | Chi11y | :P |
| 21:43.01 | NicNac | hmm Im not sure |
| 21:44.40 | NicNac | I liked zenwalk and fedora the best of the distros I've tried recently |
| 21:45.01 | unduality | A quick question: Is it possible to dpkg -i a "Testing"-.deb in elive in some way without getting broken dependancies? |
| 21:45.21 | wasynyt | why would you want to do that |
| 21:45.25 | NicNac | Am I right in thinking that if I get a new hdd I would only need one swap partition? |
| 21:45.27 | DvineLord | i tried zenwalk again recently |
| 21:45.35 | DvineLord | i like elive better |
| 21:45.45 | unduality | Because there are no version available that is not a testing .deb |
| 21:46.03 | wasynyt | what app |
| 21:46.25 | DvineLord | xchat? |
| 21:46.25 | NicNac | unduality, try #debian they may be able to help you |
| 21:46.45 | wasynyt | nope.. |
| 21:47.00 | unduality | a torrent-client called deluge |
| 21:47.15 | wasynyt | why not use azureus ? |
| 21:47.40 | unduality | i do use it but it is very uneconomic with cpu. |
| 21:47.47 | unduality | and memory |
| 21:47.48 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 21:47.51 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 21:48.08 | wasynyt | well i am quite sure there are other.. gtk2 based |
| 21:48.28 | unduality | and the other alternative in elive "Transmission" is very bad. (And some trackers even ban it) |
| 21:49.35 | wasynyt | http://www.rahul.net/dholmes/ctorrent/ why not try this |
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| 21:53.06 | wasynyt | and if you really want it just download the source compile |
| 21:53.07 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 21:53.14 | anquietas | wasynyt, sorry to annoy you again ... ^^ but could you tell me the command to make Elive auto-mount my HDD ? |
| 21:53.33 | NicNac | So if I got a big hdd and wanted to install several distros could I use just the one swap partition? |
| 21:53.59 | anquietas | If only one distro is active ... I guess, yes. |
| 21:54.01 | wasynyt | yea |
| 21:54.10 | NicNac | yea thats what I meant |
| 21:54.11 | wasynyt | nope even if those all are |
| 21:54.46 | NicNac | ?? |
| 21:54.47 | anquietas | Yes? |
| 21:54.50 | anquietas | Hm. Nice. |
| 21:55.00 | keyra | NicNac: Great Caesars Ghost...how many question marks do you need just to ask one question... |
| 21:55.14 | Chi11y | NicNac: only one swap is needed |
| 21:55.17 | unduality | wasynyt, thanx for the advice, but that is a very bad client. Check comparision between deluge and ctorrent and so on here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client |
| 21:55.22 | NicNac | thanks Chi11y |
| 21:55.40 | wasynyt | well.. then just compile the torrent client you want |
| 21:55.57 | anquietas | wasynyt... ^^ please, tell me how to auto-mount the HDD. |
| 21:56.00 | unduality | Deluge has almost everything that utorrent and azureus got but iis also lightweight and sexy. |
| 21:56.13 | wasynyt | wait.. a sec |
| 21:56.18 | Chi11y | but some distros have the strange behavior of creating new swaps by default so always check your partition scheme |
| 21:56.20 | anquietas | Waiting. |
| 21:56.24 | unduality | wasynyt, yepp i think that will be it. |
| 21:56.36 | NicNac | I think 200gb is enough for now :) |
| 21:56.36 | Chi11y | deluge sounds good^^ |
| 21:56.41 | Chi11y | :) |
| 21:57.00 | unduality | I was very impressed from what i read about it. |
| 21:57.30 | wasynyt | anquietas, create a mount point for it.. like this |
| 21:57.34 | wasynyt | cd /mnt |
| 21:57.40 | wasynyt | mkdir myhd |
| 21:57.42 | Chi11y | I have one 250gb master & 40gb slave, it is more than enough |
| 21:57.48 | wasynyt | as root of course |
| 21:57.59 | anquietas | It already has a mount-point /mnt/hda1 |
| 21:58.04 | marcfp | xao |
| 21:58.07 | wasynyt | then mount /dev/hda /mnt/myhd |
| 21:58.09 | wasynyt | k |
| 21:58.20 | wasynyt | then go and look at /etc/fstab |
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| 21:58.38 | wasynyt | it has to have same device and mount point |
| 21:59.26 | NicNac | how many distros you got installed Chi11y? |
| 21:59.54 | Chi11y | now? 2 at most? i think it was 7, and no signs of need for more space on any of them |
| 22:00.02 | NicNac | cool |
| 22:00.21 | Chi11y | 15-25gb per distro is more than fine |
| 22:00.29 | DvineLord | are there any opensource medical journal readers or something? |
| 22:00.42 | DvineLord | thatll grab stuff from like medline, pubmed, etc |
| 22:00.43 | DvineLord | ? |
| 22:00.52 | wasynyt | dunno.. might be |
| 22:01.11 | Chi11y | 10gb is quite enough if you dont want to install much shit for most distros^^ |
| 22:02.21 | NicNac | Im thinking of getting one of those external usb caddies |
| 22:02.26 | NicNac | good idea or bad? |
| 22:02.33 | DvineLord | i heard MEPIS is goin back to debian |
| 22:02.37 | wasynyt | caddie ? |
| 22:02.44 | wasynyt | yeah it is on osnews |
| 22:02.49 | DvineLord | yep |
| 22:02.49 | NicNac | http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/product.php?lang=en&submenu=&menu=&product_id=2503&session=79fc1c004cabd1865b078e8551ebc908 |
| 22:02.56 | NicNac | yes I heard about mepis |
| 22:02.57 | DvineLord | is MEPIS even any good? |
| 22:03.09 | NicNac | Dunno havent tried it |
| 22:03.34 | NicNac | it used to be buntu based, and to be honest if I want ubuntu I'll just install ubuntu |
| 22:05.29 | anquietas | wasynyt, fstab is open. What do I have to look for? |
| 22:06.04 | wasynyt | line that has /dev/hda1 mount point.. and some other stuff.. |
| 22:06.08 | wasynyt | seeing it ? |
| 22:06.39 | anquietas | ... no. |
| 22:06.51 | NicNac | when did computers introduce booting from usb? |
| 22:06.59 | DvineLord | i wonder if there is a iso bootloader? |
| 22:07.21 | DvineLord | where u can have a bootloader come up and show a listing of iso distros to load |
| 22:07.24 | anquietas | NicNac, a few month ago I saw a report on that |
| 22:07.47 | wasynyt | anquietas, nothing about /dev/hda1 ? |
| 22:07.50 | anquietas | No. |
| 22:07.51 | DvineLord | and then have a swap partitions and maybe a designated area to save changes |
| 22:08.32 | wasynyt | /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 reiserfs defaults 1 2 |
| 22:08.42 | wasynyt | add this line in to it and reboot |
| 22:08.51 | NicNac | I was thinking of maybe putting togeather a cheap computer with no hdd just use a flash drive or something |
| 22:08.57 | anquietas | I should make a backup of it, first. |
| 22:09.02 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 22:09.11 | wasynyt | name it fstab.bak |
| 22:09.24 | Chi11y | "and to be honest if I want ubuntu I'll just install ubuntu" nonono, you install mint or symphony when it is stable =) |
| 22:09.34 | NicNac | lol |
| 22:11.05 | wasynyt | anquietas, got it ? |
| 22:11.26 | anquietas | A moment, please. |
| 22:11.34 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:11.39 | wasynyt | as many as you need |
| 22:11.46 | Chi11y | anyone who has heard anything about progress of symphony? |
| 22:11.55 | anquietas | I hope I don't annoy you. ^^ |
| 22:12.09 | wasynyt | it is not THAT easy |
| 22:12.10 | wasynyt | ;D |
| 22:12.21 | NicNac | I tried the live-cd on linux format and thought it was toss |
| 22:12.23 | Chi11y | it really is one of those promising projects that you really dont hope will die :) |
| 22:13.01 | Chi11y | its a pity that it isnt free(speech) if it was I think it would be mature by now... :\ |
| 22:13.02 | NicNac | the wm kept giving up on me for some reason |
| 22:13.03 | Chi11y | hmpf |
| 22:13.21 | Chi11y | anyone here who has actually HEARD of symphonyos? o.O |
| 22:14.14 | Chi11y | doh. |
| 22:15.28 | wasynyt | nope |
| 22:15.33 | wasynyt | the forum is dead too |
| 22:15.57 | anquietas | What's it? |
| 22:17.27 | wasynyt | os and a gui that never existed.. or so it seems.. as there has been no life in theyre forums |
| 22:18.37 | anquietas | O_o |
| 22:18.42 | anquietas | Hch. |
| 22:18.55 | anquietas | Mystifying. |
| 22:20.30 | NicNac | Well im off to bed guys I'll catch you all later |
| 22:20.41 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 22:20.49 | wasynyt | anquietas, done adding ? |
| 22:20.59 | anquietas | :P Don't push me. |
| 22:21.04 | anquietas | I'm on it. ^^ |
| 22:21.19 | wasynyt | nah it wont take longer than 2 mins at mac |
| 22:21.21 | wasynyt | *max |
| 22:21.29 | wasynyt | in terminal |
| 22:21.31 | wasynyt | su |
| 22:21.33 | anquietas | Added, yes. ^ |
| 22:21.37 | wasynyt | nice |
| 22:21.43 | anquietas | ^^ ... I am just a little bit distracted. |
| 22:21.55 | wasynyt | heh |
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| 22:22.14 | navegantE | Hi people |
| 22:22.23 | wasynyt | good evening |
| 22:22.54 | Chi11y | "os and a gui that never existed..." existed it did, Ive actually tried it, but the project is half-dead half-living and no1 uses it because its buggy like a... bug^^ |
| 22:22.56 | DvineLord | how do i run shell scripts in windows? |
| 22:23.18 | Chi11y | win+r cmd? |
| 22:23.44 | DvineLord | wait nm |
| 22:23.46 | DvineLord | im stupid |
| 22:23.52 | DvineLord | i can just load os into virtual box |
| 22:23.55 | DvineLord | and run it from there |
| 22:23.56 | DvineLord | =) |
| 22:24.12 | DvineLord | i wanna try out the new slax |
| 22:24.13 | DvineLord | =) |
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| 22:24.34 | DvineLord | sup homies |
| 22:24.39 | Thybo | lol |
| 22:24.45 | Thybo | DvineLord, one more like that and i boot you |
| 22:24.48 | Thybo | apt boot DvineLord |
| 22:24.49 | apt | ACTION inconspicously shuffles over to get a straight line across DvineLord to the window above the dumpster, takes aim, and punts DvineLord out to where he belongs! |
| 22:24.52 | *** part/#elive navegantE (n=elias@201.240.165.220) |
| 22:24.53 | DvineLord | hah |
| 22:25.00 | Thybo | how are you? |
| 22:25.04 | DvineLord | alright |
| 22:25.14 | Thybo | :) |
| 22:25.21 | Thybo | u don't play aoe2 ? |
| 22:25.28 | DvineLord | i dont play games |
| 22:25.37 | Thybo | why not? |
| 22:25.39 | Thybo | u play work? |
| 22:25.40 | DvineLord | not since junior high |
| 22:25.40 | Thybo | hehe |
| 22:25.49 | Thybo | ure missing a whole lot of things hehe |
| 22:25.52 | Thybo | its fun |
| 22:26.09 | DvineLord | i used to play mad console games back in teh day |
| 22:26.19 | Thybo | :) |
| 22:26.20 | Thybo | hehe |
| 22:26.21 | DvineLord | like n64 era |
| 22:26.23 | Thybo | good'ol times |
| 22:26.24 | Thybo | hehe |
| 22:26.32 | Thybo | goldeneye & mariokar |
| 22:26.32 | Thybo | t |
| 22:26.35 | DvineLord | yea |
| 22:26.38 | Thybo | these are games that are so cool |
| 22:26.39 | DvineLord | goldeneye |
| 22:26.40 | DvineLord | =) |
| 22:26.41 | Thybo | i played em too |
| 22:26.42 | Thybo | hehe |
| 22:26.44 | DvineLord | and mario kart |
| 22:26.49 | DvineLord | listening to prodigy |
| 22:26.54 | DvineLord | and turok |
| 22:26.58 | DvineLord | i liked turok alot |
| 22:26.58 | Chi11y | ^^, |
| 22:27.02 | DvineLord | subwoofer up load |
| 22:27.09 | Thybo | hehehe |
| 22:27.10 | DvineLord | loud with when firing the bug zapper |
| 22:27.12 | DvineLord | it was awesome |
| 22:27.15 | Chi11y | snes is and was the coolest console ever =P |
| 22:27.15 | Thybo | hehehe |
| 22:27.18 | DvineLord | shaked the whole house |
| 22:27.19 | Thybo | not |
| 22:27.26 | Thybo | n64 is reall goood |
| 22:27.26 | Thybo | :) |
| 22:27.29 | DvineLord | yea |
| 22:27.33 | Chi11y | but snes is better^^ |
| 22:27.38 | Thybo | first 64 bytes console |
| 22:27.45 | Thybo | apt tell Chi11y n64 si better |
| 22:27.47 | DvineLord | i had an ateri jaguar |
| 22:27.48 | DvineLord | =) |
| 22:27.51 | DvineLord | atari |
| 22:28.00 | Thybo | i had a game boy |
| 22:28.01 | DvineLord | cause i love the Jaguar cat |
| 22:28.02 | DvineLord | =) |
| 22:28.03 | Chi11y | heh |
| 22:28.03 | Thybo | and never a console |
| 22:28.06 | Chi11y | :P |
| 22:28.08 | Thybo | coz my mom didn't let me XD |
| 22:28.12 | DvineLord | i got owned on that thing |
| 22:28.13 | Chi11y | xD |
| 22:28.17 | Thybo | but than i got a computer |
| 22:28.18 | DvineLord | couldnt ever find games |
| 22:28.20 | Thybo | than i was owning |
| 22:28.22 | DvineLord | and shit cost like 300 bucks |
| 22:28.24 | Chi11y | xd |
| 22:28.27 | DvineLord | then a cap blew |
| 22:28.39 | Chi11y | I still have a snes standing under the TV^^ |
| 22:28.45 | DvineLord | i wouldnt mind getting a gamepad and playing them on a emulator |
| 22:28.59 | Chi11y | I play some street fighter 2 from time to time :D |
| 22:28.59 | DvineLord | i pawned all my consoles not too long ago |
| 22:29.21 | DvineLord | 2 nes, snes, ps1 |
| 22:29.26 | DvineLord | and alot of games |
| 22:29.30 | Chi11y | 2 nes? o.O |
| 22:29.33 | DvineLord | yea |
| 22:29.48 | DvineLord | i got 65 bucks |
| 22:29.49 | DvineLord | =) |
| 22:29.51 | Chi11y | why 2? |
| 22:29.53 | Chi11y | =) |
| 22:30.09 | NathanExplosion | ive got my ps2, roomies got an xbox |
| 22:30.26 | DvineLord | i figured if i ever wanted to play the games again i could just dl an emu and roms |
| 22:30.40 | Thybo | hehe |
| 22:30.44 | Thybo | DvineLord, ILLEGAALL |
| 22:30.45 | Thybo | hehehheeh |
| 22:30.45 | NathanExplosion | yeah same here |
| 22:30.50 | DvineLord | bah |
| 22:30.56 | NathanExplosion | i've done more illegal stuff in my time |
| 22:31.01 | DvineLord | thats like saying mod chips are illegal |
| 22:31.14 | DvineLord | complete blasphemy |
| 22:31.25 | DvineLord | i wanted to mod an xbox |
| 22:31.30 | DvineLord | burn it into media center |
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| 22:31.43 | DvineLord | play mp3 and xvid |
| 22:31.44 | DvineLord | etc |
| 22:32.00 | Thybo | hehe |
| 22:32.05 | Thybo | im gonna buy a ps3 |
| 22:32.08 | Thybo | and install linux |
| 22:32.09 | DvineLord | ydl |
| 22:32.18 | DvineLord | 550 for ydl ps3 |
| 22:32.31 | Thybo | and have the prettiest lobby computer ever |
| 22:32.31 | Thybo | :)= |
| 22:32.35 | Thybo | and sooo powerfull |
| 22:32.54 | DvineLord | it doesnt have much memory in it |
| 22:32.56 | DvineLord | does that matter? |
| 22:33.38 | wasynyt | -_- |
| 22:33.41 | Thybo | hehehe |
| 22:33.42 | Thybo | ;) |
| 22:33.44 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:33.49 | DvineLord | isnt the ps3 quadcore? |
| 22:33.57 | Thybo | the ps3 is cell processor |
| 22:34.00 | wasynyt | 1 + 7 |
| 22:34.08 | Thybo | that means as strong as cell in dragon ball Z hehehe |
| 22:34.18 | Chi11y | lol |
| 22:34.23 | DvineLord | hah |
| 22:34.24 | Chi11y | but 256mb ram |
| 22:34.25 | Chi11y | xd |
| 22:34.27 | Thybo | talking to geeks aint easy |
| 22:34.28 | Thybo | hehe |
| 22:34.35 | Thybo | got to find the examples and all |
| 22:34.35 | Thybo | lol |
| 22:34.40 | Chi11y | lol |
| 22:34.50 | DvineLord | dbz procs are dead arent they? |
| 22:35.00 | DvineLord | or are they still used in things |
| 22:35.10 | Thybo | ... |
| 22:35.36 | wasynyt | i think there are some.. but it is quite rare to fin dsuch |
| 22:35.42 | wasynyt | *find such |
| 22:43.49 | anquietas | Reboot. |
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| 22:46.29 | Thybo | hehe |
| 22:46.31 | Thybo | there he is |
| 22:46.33 | Thybo | wb anquietas :) |
| 22:46.43 | anquietas | Auto-mounting works, wasynyt. Thanks! |
| 22:46.49 | anquietas | Hey Thybo. ^^ |
| 22:46.51 | wasynyt | good |
| 22:46.52 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:47.17 | anquietas | Hm. Did you already change the repository? |
| 22:58.22 | anquietas | Oh. E17 uses edj files as backgrounds... how can I create my own one? |
| 22:59.29 | Chi11y | no idea |
| 22:59.48 | Chi11y | :P |
| 23:00.08 | Chi11y | I think inkscape or gimp can export to edj |
| 23:00.12 | Chi11y | not sure tho |
| 23:00.25 | Chi11y | try to open and save as in gimp =) |
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| 23:01.48 | Chi11y | anquietas does that work? |
| 23:01.57 | anquietas | I am trying. |
| 23:02.25 | anquietas | No. |
| 23:02.43 | Chi11y | =/ |
| 23:04.23 | anquietas | >,< |
| 23:04.31 | anquietas | Well, let's see tomorrow. |
| 23:04.36 | anquietas | I have to leave now. |
| 23:04.41 | anquietas | Catch you later |
| 23:04.42 | anquietas | Ciao |
| 23:06.22 | shinsten | ello ello |
| 23:11.47 | NathanExplosion | hello |
| 23:12.01 | keyra | NathanExplosion: hi |
| 23:12.11 | NathanExplosion | apt kill keyra |
| 23:12.11 | apt | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxtachyon gun at keyra |
| 23:12.47 | Chi11y | apt is keyra dead? |
| 23:12.57 | NathanExplosion | i hope so |
| 23:13.01 | Chi11y | yeh |
| 23:13.05 | Chi11y | apt say yes |
| 23:13.06 | apt | yes |
| 23:13.09 | Chi11y | :O |
| 23:13.13 | Chi11y | xd |
| 23:13.16 | wasynyt | keyra alive |
| 23:14.12 | Chi11y | wasynyt, in this single case I trust apt more than you, nothing personal ;) |
| 23:14.26 | Chi11y | just because I want apt to be right :P |
| 23:14.26 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 23:14.30 | Chi11y | :D |
| 23:14.33 | wasynyt | apt wake keyra |
| 23:14.33 | apt | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on keyra and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 23:14.39 | Chi11y | lol |
| 23:15.04 | NathanExplosion | lol |
| 23:15.05 | Chi11y | well, Im out of here before keyra awakes! :P |
| 23:15.11 | Chi11y | cya all |
| 23:15.16 | NathanExplosion | cya |
| 23:17.42 | wasynyt | well good night people |
| 23:17.43 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 23:24.31 | Elive_user33 | xjxjxj |
| 23:26.51 | NathanExplosion | who's still here? |
| 23:29.42 | NathanExplosion | bed? |
| 23:29.46 | wasynyt | yeh |
| 23:29.53 | NathanExplosion | where do you live? |
| 23:29.54 | wasynyt | 0230 |
| 23:30.00 | wasynyt | finland |
| 23:30.13 | NathanExplosion | cool |
| 23:30.30 | wasynyt | humm |
| 23:30.40 | NathanExplosion | eh? |
| 23:31.10 | wasynyt | well nothing happens here.. at least in the town/city i live |
| 23:31.30 | NathanExplosion | so? it best be nice |
| 23:31.39 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 23:31.50 | wasynyt | well stable is the best option |
| 23:31.50 | wasynyt | :D |
| 23:32.03 | NathanExplosion | where you live, i imagine its very nice |
| 23:32.11 | wasynyt | yeah it is |
| 23:32.17 | keyra | NathanExplosion: :) |
| 23:32.28 | NathanExplosion | why is she smiling at me? |
| 23:32.47 | NathanExplosion | that's creepy |
| 23:35.15 | DvineLord | hah |
| 23:35.24 | NathanExplosion | don't you think? |
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