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| 00:03.54 | rebbi | hey, gang |
| 00:04.02 | Gwildor | hip hip |
| 00:04.13 | rebbi | :-) |
| 00:04.54 | rebbi | Anybody got any kind of power management running on a laptop under Gem? |
| 00:05.56 | Gwildor | like what, i manually suspend via GUI.... |
| 00:06.05 | Gwildor | good enough? |
| 00:06.24 | rebbi | how do you suspend, what GUI? you mean, suspend to RAM? |
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| 00:07.19 | Arv3n | hai guys. |
| 00:07.56 | rebbi | gwildor: you there? |
| 00:08.07 | Arv3n | Anyone in here a gamer? |
| 00:08.20 | rebbi | Arv3n: a bit |
| 00:08.32 | Arv3n | What games do you play? |
| 00:09.07 | rebbi | I like kind of retro stuff: supertuxkart, frozen bubble... |
| 00:09.17 | rebbi | not so crazy about the 3d shooters |
| 00:09.22 | Arv3n | IC. |
| 00:09.33 | Arv3n | Well, what resolution is recommended for Elive? |
| 00:09.39 | Arv3n | 1024x768 is still too small. |
| 00:09.48 | Arv3n | Everything is so small, is 800x600 any better? |
| 00:10.02 | rebbi | Should be better |
| 00:10.12 | Arv3n | alright, ill try it after install. |
| 00:10.56 | MotherFu1ker | hey, alguien x ahi |
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| 00:22.55 | MotherFu1ker | j #debian-es |
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| 00:42.08 | marcfp | hi |
| 00:43.03 | marcfp | does anybody know if there are a candidate release for e17 ? |
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| 00:52.50 | foohey | hum, I try to boot on a fresh install of elive, but... this system start, and shutdown immediately :/ |
| 00:53.20 | foohey | I have chroot for get log, nothing :s |
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| 01:15.46 | marcfp | re |
| 01:19.53 | foohey | salut marcfp. |
| 01:27.01 | marcfp | hi foohey :) |
| 01:27.03 | marcfp | que tal ? |
| 01:27.30 | marcfp | foohey: sabes castellano ? |
| 01:28.22 | marcfp | i think that it will be much better if i leave to sleep |
| 01:29.04 | foohey | no... :) yo habla un poco espagnol ;p |
| 01:29.16 | marcfp | ahaps |
| 01:29.25 | foohey | yo soy frances |
| 01:29.42 | marcfp | foohey: i'm from spain |
| 01:30.03 | marcfp | but i know catalan language and castellano or spanish language :) |
| 01:30.36 | marcfp | i leave to my bed becouse tomorrow i have a marrie |
| 01:30.37 | foohey | my brother live in spain |
| 01:30.40 | marcfp | "marrie" :S |
| 01:30.54 | foohey | marrie Oo |
| 01:30.56 | marcfp | i don't know the exactly word :S |
| 01:31.04 | marcfp | foohey: casamiento |
| 01:31.08 | marcfp | boda |
| 01:31.11 | marcfp | mmm |
| 01:31.40 | foohey | ahh ok :) |
| 01:31.47 | foohey | marriage |
| 01:31.50 | foohey | :D |
| 01:31.54 | marcfp | yes :) |
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| 01:32.05 | Arv3n | Hai. |
| 01:32.21 | Arv3n | Can anyone tell me the kernel source package for elive 1.0 gem so I can install parallels workstation? |
| 01:33.00 | Arv3n | its saying it cant find it and i have 2.6.28-elive sources installed. |
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| 01:36.28 | LinuxNIT | check your /usr/src dir |
| 01:36.31 | LinuxNIT | is it in there? |
| 01:36.51 | Arv3n | hold. |
| 01:37.09 | Arv3n | i beleive so. |
| 01:37.22 | Arv3n | kernel-source-2.6.28-elive directory |
| 01:37.47 | Arv3n | owait. |
| 01:37.51 | Arv3n | its empty, gotta extract it. ~_~ |
| 01:39.07 | trog | 2.6.28 ?? |
| 01:39.34 | trog | i would like to rent that time machine ;) |
| 01:39.35 | Arv3n | 18, sorry. |
| 01:39.41 | Arv3n | lol. |
| 01:39.44 | Arv3n | yeah i always make that typo. |
| 01:40.06 | Arv3n | it took me a while to figure out it was a typo the first time i had that problem. |
| 01:41.11 | Arv3n | nope, still doesnt work. ~_~ |
| 01:41.16 | Arv3n | it says unable to find. |
| 01:41.29 | Arv3n | i think it needs the headers. |
| 01:41.35 | Arv3n | what is the package for that? |
| 01:42.07 | LinuxNIT | did you make the symlink linux that points to it? |
| 01:42.12 | Arv3n | no. |
| 01:42.15 | Arv3n | command? |
| 01:42.30 | LinuxNIT | ln -s to make symlinks |
| 01:42.30 | Arv3n | isnt it ln. |
| 01:42.33 | Arv3n | ty. |
| 01:43.06 | Arv3n | it found it. |
| 01:43.11 | Arv3n | but this time it gave me compile errors. >.> |
| 01:43.44 | Arv3n | there isnt a build directory. |
| 01:43.51 | Arv3n | >.> |
| 01:43.54 | Arv3n | do i need to make that? |
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| 01:44.04 | Nacho_Bor | hola |
| 01:44.07 | Nacho_Bor | como estan |
| 01:44.09 | Arv3n | hai |
| 01:44.19 | keyra | Nacho_Bor: que tal ? |
| 01:44.19 | Nacho_Bor | tengo un problemilla q no e opdido solucionar enmi elive |
| 01:44.39 | Nacho_Bor | no puedo hacer q funcionen bien mis usb |
| 01:45.05 | Nacho_Bor | e puesto irqpoll en el grub y me funcionan |
| 01:45.11 | Nacho_Bor | pero esto del irqpoll |
| 01:45.39 | Nacho_Bor | me a empesado a dar problemas mi pc de vez en cuando carga demaciado y se congela |
| 01:45.45 | Nacho_Bor | q podre hacer?? |
| 01:46.10 | Nacho_Bor | SOS |
| 01:49.50 | Nacho_Bor | ayuda porfavor |
| 01:49.53 | Nacho_Bor | ayuda |
| 01:50.44 | Arv3n | can anyone help? im about to give up on elive. |
| 01:50.54 | Arv3n | this ALWAYS happens on elive. |
| 01:51.03 | Arv3n | i can never get anything requiring the kernel sources to work. |
| 01:52.26 | trog | what do you require ? |
| 01:52.32 | trog | oh |
| 01:52.36 | trog | sorry, now i saw the question |
| 01:52.50 | Arv3n | ? |
| 01:52.54 | trog | where does it fail you ? what errors did you got ? |
| 01:53.01 | Arv3n | let me get the error log. |
| 01:53.08 | trog | use pastebin .... |
| 01:53.12 | Nacho_Bor | SOS |
| 01:53.14 | Arv3n | i am. =P |
| 01:53.21 | Nacho_Bor | quien me puede ayudar con mi problema plis |
| 01:54.13 | Arv3n | http://pastebin.ca/657721 |
| 01:54.21 | Arv3n | First it gave me an error about the directory not existing. |
| 01:54.25 | Arv3n | I made it and now it gives me this error. |
| 01:55.14 | marcfp | I leave to sleep |
| 01:55.44 | trog | 1 sec... |
| 01:55.53 | Arv3n | its while its compiling the drivers. |
| 01:55.56 | Arv3n | for parallels workstation. |
| 01:56.28 | trog | what command did you issue ? |
| 01:56.38 | trog | try to disable the drivers from the kernel configuration |
| 01:56.44 | trog | if you dont need them |
| 01:56.46 | Arv3n | parallels-config |
| 01:56.54 | trog | usually, this gets one over some problems |
| 01:57.14 | Arv3n | ? |
| 01:57.18 | Arv3n | i dont understand. >.> |
| 01:57.35 | trog | how did you try to compile the drivers ? |
| 01:57.46 | Arv3n | i just ran the config tools for parallels workstation. |
| 01:57.49 | keyra | trog: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 01:58.48 | trog | i have no ideea |
| 01:59.07 | trog | did you used them on other debian flavors ? |
| 01:59.26 | Arv3n | yeah. |
| 01:59.31 | Arv3n | its no problem. |
| 01:59.34 | Arv3n | this only happens on elive. |
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| 01:59.59 | trog | i cant help you, sorry ... |
| 02:00.02 | Arv3n | -_- |
| 02:00.11 | Arv3n | roxville can you help me? |
| 02:00.30 | roxville | Arv3n, with what? |
| 02:00.44 | Arv3n | i get this error while running parallels-config |
| 02:00.46 | Arv3n | http://pastebin.ca/657721 |
| 02:00.58 | Arv3n | i got another error previously due to a missing folder, so i made the folder and now i get this. |
| 02:02.31 | roxville | sorry man, trog is a ACE at that...compared to me :/ |
| 02:02.58 | Arv3n | i think its because the kernel sources are fucked up. |
| 02:03.03 | trog | wait...what folder ? |
| 02:03.11 | Arv3n | hold. |
| 02:03.25 | trog | :P roxville |
| 02:03.50 | Arv3n | um, i dont know. |
| 02:03.58 | Arv3n | /lib/elive-2.6.18/modules |
| 02:03.59 | Arv3n | or something. |
| 02:04.49 | Arv3n | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-elive/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 02:05.02 | Arv3n | i was close. |
| 02:05.10 | Arv3n | so i made that directory. |
| 02:07.08 | Arv3n | let me try something. |
| 02:07.20 | trog | how did you get the sources to the parallels drivers ? |
| 02:07.28 | trog | in what form ? where did you unpack them ? |
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| 02:07.34 | keyra | trog: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 02:07.52 | Arv3n | its not a source, but hold on. |
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| 02:15.47 | Nacho_Bor | quien sabew como installar el itask-module |
| 02:15.49 | Nacho_Bor | ?? |
| 02:16.15 | trog | sorry, no habla espanol ;) |
| 02:16.28 | trog | or something like that :) |
| 02:29.42 | withoutclass | apt fspot |
| 02:30.17 | roxville | Nacho_Bor, itask-module... from where? |
| 02:31.39 | Nacho_Bor | quien sabe como instalar itask-module |
| 02:32.15 | roxville | from where? |
| 02:32.55 | roxville | apt x en es from where? |
| 02:33.22 | roxville | Nacho_Bor, ¿de dónde? |
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| 02:35.18 | withoutclass | his name makes me hungry |
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| 02:40.25 | Nacho_Bor | como instalo itask-module en elive |
| 02:41.13 | roxville | Nacho_Bor, ¿de dónde? |
| 02:41.21 | Nacho_Bor | como de donde |
| 02:41.21 | withoutclass | apt x es en Nacho_Bor , what is an itask-module, where did you find this thing |
| 02:41.30 | withoutclass | im retarded |
| 02:41.40 | roxville | apt x en es Nacho_Bor from what site? |
| 02:41.49 | Nacho_Bor | a |
| 02:41.50 | Nacho_Bor | vale |
| 02:41.51 | Nacho_Bor | de |
| 02:42.01 | Nacho_Bor | e17-stuff.org |
| 02:42.05 | roxville | ahhh |
| 02:42.21 | withoutclass | probably not compatible this version |
| 02:42.30 | roxville | apt x en es Nacho_Bor are you using default elive e17? |
| 02:42.55 | Nacho_Bor | sip yo uso el elive |
| 02:43.02 | Nacho_Bor | instalada desde elivecd |
| 02:43.03 | roxville | ok |
| 02:43.23 | Nacho_Bor | quien sabe como se hace no e podido |
| 02:43.43 | roxville | apt x en es Nacho_Bor you can not install that right now... it's incompatiable with elive's version iof e17 |
| 02:44.33 | roxville | apt x en es Nacho_Bor only install from synaptic |
| 02:44.49 | Nacho_Bor | mm |
| 02:45.03 | Nacho_Bor | no entiendo bien lo q me tratan de decir |
| 02:45.11 | roxville | apt x en es sorry :/ |
| 02:45.26 | Nacho_Bor | que?? |
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| 02:46.02 | roxville | apt, x en es i apologize for this inconenience |
| 02:46.17 | charasky | Nacho_Bor triste |
| 02:46.20 | roxville | inconvenience |
| 02:46.51 | charasky | Nacho_Bor Sad |
| 02:47.13 | Nacho_Bor | a |
| 02:47.15 | Nacho_Bor | q onda |
| 02:47.25 | Nacho_Bor | no entiendo lo que intentan decir |
| 02:47.32 | roxville | thank you charasky :) |
| 02:47.41 | charasky | roxville :) |
| 02:49.02 | Nacho_Bor | quien me peude ayudar a instalar en itask-module |
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| 02:52.47 | roxville | he didn't really seem able to understand spanish either... |
| 02:53.20 | withoutclass | apt is not the best translator, and perhaps he is not speaking spanish |
| 02:53.47 | withoutclass | apt x es en no entiendo bien lo q me tratan de decir |
| 02:53.58 | withoutclass | maybe he isO_o |
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| 03:00.11 | mojo | I have a problem with installing Elive Gem... I installed to a 2ndary HDD, and that seems fine, but when I put GRUB on the Pri HDD (with existing XP instal), the computer won't boot now |
| 03:00.25 | keyra | mojo: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 03:00.48 | mojo | keyra: what? I made a statement, not a question |
| 03:01.02 | mojo | I put GRUB on the pri HD and now it won't boot |
| 03:01.10 | mojo | I was wondering what options i have |
| 03:01.23 | mojo | or what i can look at to help troubleshoot why GRUB is not loading |
| 03:01.48 | trog | mojo: reboot the system, with the live-cd |
| 03:01.53 | mojo | I have lost the MBR, apparently, so now it won't even boot XP |
| 03:02.03 | mojo | I can boot to the LiveCD. Have tried the install several times over |
| 03:02.12 | trog | mount the root partition, and chroot into it (chroot /mnt/hdXy) |
| 03:02.23 | trog | then inside, run grub-install /dev/hdXy |
| 03:02.36 | mojo | trog: okay, i am bootint that machine now... to the cd... 1min |
| 03:02.36 | trog | there's no need for a reinstall...just reinstall grub |
| 03:03.16 | mojo | trog... whirring away... |
| 03:03.23 | trog | i'll be here |
| 03:03.29 | trog | :) |
| 03:04.21 | mojo | trog: thanks a bunch... this is a friends machine and i'd feel terrible if i cant' either get it to work or loose his XP install |
| 03:04.29 | mojo | (he wanst to boot both) |
| 03:05.33 | trog | did you install xp after you installed elive ? |
| 03:05.44 | mojo | no, it was an existing XP install that I have not touched |
| 03:05.50 | trog | great |
| 03:06.13 | mojo | only thign i did to the original (pri) hdd was try to put grub there in the dlive install. i gave him a 30Gb drive to put elive on |
| 03:06.14 | trog | so, basically, you have a root partition on hdbX and you want to install grub, on the MBR of hda ? |
| 03:06.26 | mojo | yeah |
| 03:06.38 | trog | did you use a separate partition for /grub ? |
| 03:06.42 | mojo | yeah, i'll give you the partition layout in a sec |
| 03:06.46 | trog | cool |
| 03:07.33 | mojo | i thing hda is xp with some 7mb free space at the end, and hdb is a small /boot, /, and swap. both /boot and / are ext3 since i hoped to install the windows IFS to access his data |
| 03:08.15 | mojo | i myself have been running ubuntu since just before warty release |
| 03:08.43 | mojo | though i did try mandriva for a month before that, and decided debian distos rock over rpms |
| 03:09.10 | mojo | this is a slow P4 machine... i am just now getting logged in |
| 03:10.05 | mojo | looking for gparted in epanel... where is it agian? |
| 03:10.33 | trog | ext3 is much more reliable. after i almost lost 180gb of data, due tu reiserfs, i'll use only ext3 |
| 03:10.50 | trog | jfs is faster, xfs is also fast, but i need reliability ...which i recomend to everyone |
| 03:11.11 | trog | fire up a terminal, and do a "fdisk -l" as root |
| 03:11.22 | trog | or as user "/sbin/fdisk -l" might work |
| 03:11.43 | mojo | yeah, i stuck with ext3 because i am familiar and confident in it, and because there is an IFS for xp that will let him access the music files he creates in elive.... i want to set him up with the RT kernel and audio software |
| 03:12.01 | trog | :)) |
| 03:12.19 | mojo | fdisk -l |
| 03:12.24 | mojo | oops! wrong kb |
| 03:12.32 | mojo | command not found |
| 03:12.41 | roxville | as root |
| 03:12.44 | trog | its in /sbin which aint in $PATH for non-root users |
| 03:12.50 | mojo | sudo okay that works |
| 03:13.58 | trog | uglyer than gparted i must admit :)...but its the one i trust |
| 03:14.11 | mojo | /dev/hda3 0 blocks id 0 Empty |
| 03:14.12 | trog | cfdisk is also my fav choice :) ...i feel more in control |
| 03:14.37 | mojo | /dev/hdb1 104391 blocks id 83 Linux (boot) |
| 03:15.03 | mojo | /dev/hdb2 522112+ blocks id 82 linux swap |
| 03:15.30 | mojo | /dev/hdb3 28684057+ blocks id 83 Linux (root) |
| 03:15.35 | trog | cool, its enough |
| 03:15.46 | trog | cat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep root |
| 03:15.51 | mojo | hda is 20gb, hdb is 30 |
| 03:15.58 | trog | it doesent matter.... |
| 03:15.59 | mojo | sudo? |
| 03:16.06 | trog | do this : "sudo su" |
| 03:16.10 | trog | you'll be root in that terminal |
| 03:16.28 | trog | and you'll be able to issue all these administrative commands as root |
| 03:16.34 | mojo | no such file or directory.. am booted to cd |
| 03:16.38 | trog | without sudo |
| 03:16.49 | mojo | same |
| 03:16.52 | mojo | w/o sudo |
| 03:16.53 | trog | ups |
| 03:17.10 | trog | are you root in that terminal ? (you can become, with "sudo su" in a new terminal) |
| 03:17.27 | mojo | can be... 1sec |
| 03:17.34 | mojo | okay now i am root |
| 03:17.39 | trog | cool |
| 03:18.03 | trog | cat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep ^root |
| 03:18.07 | mojo | only files there are message and message.elive |
| 03:18.12 | mojo | in /boot/grub |
| 03:18.22 | trog | indeed, my mistake :) |
| 03:18.32 | mojo | message is a softlink back to message.elive |
| 03:18.34 | trog | cat /mnt/hdb1/grub/menu.lst|grep ^root |
| 03:19.58 | mojo | okay, finally... entry matching grep ^root is "root (hd0,0) |
| 03:20.01 | mojo | " |
| 03:20.04 | mojo | :) |
| 03:20.05 | trog | perfect |
| 03:20.12 | trog | now .... |
| 03:20.20 | trog | chroot /mnt/hdb3 |
| 03:20.52 | mojo | k |
| 03:21.02 | trog | after that, "grub-install /dev/hda" |
| 03:21.45 | mojo | not found or not a block device |
| 03:21.50 | mojo | maybe hda1? |
| 03:21.53 | trog | nope |
| 03:21.55 | trog | errrr |
| 03:21.55 | mojo | kk |
| 03:22.18 | trog | try to run there "/etc/init.d/udev start" |
| 03:22.27 | trog | tell me if it shouts any error messages.... |
| 03:22.53 | mojo | udev requires a mounted procfs, not started |
| 03:22.58 | trog | mount /proc |
| 03:23.03 | trog | mount /sys |
| 03:23.04 | mojo | but mount shows proc mounted |
| 03:23.10 | trog | /etc/init.d/udev start |
| 03:23.16 | mojo | k |
| 03:24.13 | mojo | hah ha it says that it detected /etc/init.d/udev start ws run from and interactive shell and warns it may not do what is expected, i am in a 60sec wait |
| 03:24.26 | trog | its fine.... :D |
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| 03:24.44 | trog | after that, "ls -la /dev/hda*" |
| 03:24.45 | mojo | okay, it says udeverror intitializing w/o udev socket, failed |
| 03:25.02 | trog | some things may go wrong, ignore the warnings & errors :) |
| 03:25.22 | trog | its important to create a few block devices |
| 03:25.38 | mojo | hmm no hdX entries in /dev |
| 03:25.54 | trog | if it doeset, i think it should work if you create them with mknod (unusefull complicated) or just copy them from the livecd :D |
| 03:25.57 | trog | fine |
| 03:26.19 | mojo | okay, mknod away |
| 03:26.26 | trog | open up a new terminal, "sudo su", then "cp /dev/hd* /mnt/hdb3/dev/" |
| 03:26.41 | trog | (dont close this terminal, the one with chroot) |
| 03:27.23 | trog | s/mknod/mkdev/ |
| 03:27.24 | trog | :) |
| 03:27.25 | mojo | la la la... cd ont spinning but it's thinking |
| 03:27.32 | mojo | yeah, both terms are open |
| 03:27.38 | mojo | m waiting on cp command |
| 03:27.41 | trog | just the minor and major for each block device matters... |
| 03:27.47 | trog | it should finish shortly |
| 03:27.48 | mojo | shoulda done -v or sumthin :p |
| 03:28.11 | trog | you can ctrl+c it with no problems :) ...could even use mc, its more intuitive |
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| 03:28.25 | mojo | ehh... giving it a second to think |
| 03:28.34 | trog | it deservs so ;) |
| 03:28.37 | trog | deserves |
| 03:29.00 | mojo | so the chroot is only active in the terminal i issued it? |
| 03:29.02 | trog | praise the software and forgive its weaknesses :D |
| 03:29.19 | NathanExplosion | trogdor |
| 03:29.34 | trog | yes....further more, the /proc and /sys are mounted, only inside that chroot. so, if you want to open another one, you must mount those again |
| 03:29.54 | trog | nathan :) |
| 03:30.03 | NathanExplosion | sup? |
| 03:30.28 | trog | i'm the happy owner of a new g/f :D |
| 03:30.39 | NathanExplosion | yeah? |
| 03:30.49 | mojo | ha ha you never own a g/f, she owns you |
| 03:31.00 | NathanExplosion | lol guys like to pretend |
| 03:31.08 | mojo | true |
| 03:32.17 | mojo | patience... waning... nothing.. output... ack! |
| 03:32.18 | NathanExplosion | I am currently on the prowl |
| 03:32.56 | trog | in my country, we own them :) |
| 03:33.03 | trog | its also legal to own more than one :)) |
| 03:33.09 | mojo | if i open yet another term will lsof help me see if that cp command is doing anything? |
| 03:33.15 | Nacho_Bor | hola |
| 03:33.15 | trog | mojo: stop it ....check if any /dev/hda* files are there |
| 03:33.21 | Nacho_Bor | tengo un problemilla |
| 03:33.28 | keyra | Nacho_Bor: que tal ? |
| 03:33.39 | mojo | yeah |
| 03:33.39 | Nacho_Bor | quien sabe como instalar el itask-module en elive |
| 03:33.40 | trog | if not, try to copy just those ("cp -v" or with mc) ... |
| 03:33.41 | Nacho_Bor | ??? |
| 03:33.47 | mojo | dunno mc |
| 03:33.51 | mojo | will try with -v |
| 03:34.05 | NathanExplosion | what country trog? |
| 03:34.10 | trog | NathanExplosion: romania |
| 03:34.23 | NathanExplosion | hot chicks there? |
| 03:34.27 | trog | :D |
| 03:34.31 | trog | the hottest in europe .... |
| 03:34.31 | Nacho_Bor | quien me ayuda |
| 03:34.35 | trog | lemme give you a link |
| 03:34.41 | NathanExplosion | lol that's what this dude form denmark said |
| 03:34.50 | mojo | lol everyone worries about hotness when it's a soul connection we really seek |
| 03:35.10 | mojo | not that hotness isn't a great bonus |
| 03:35.25 | roxville | mojo, where in TN are you? |
| 03:35.28 | trog | true |
| 03:35.29 | trog | :) |
| 03:35.32 | mojo | near nashville |
| 03:35.40 | roxville | ok |
| 03:35.48 | roxville | i was guessing knoxville |
| 03:35.52 | roxville | i was wrong :) |
| 03:35.53 | mojo | but i am not native... lived near saint louis for a long time |
| 03:35.59 | Nacho_Bor | ayuda plsi |
| 03:36.01 | roxville | ok |
| 03:36.01 | Nacho_Bor | plsi |
| 03:36.03 | Nacho_Bor | plis |
| 03:36.04 | Nacho_Bor | ayuda |
| 03:36.11 | Nacho_Bor | SOS |
| 03:36.19 | mojo | well wherever comcast says it's routers live i guess is as close as you can figure from my ip |
| 03:36.34 | roxville | i'm not a native either... i'm from stockholm, sweden, but live in charleston, sc since 6 years |
| 03:36.47 | roxville | hehe, yeah :) |
| 03:36.51 | trog | http://youtube.com/watch?v=jKDThzvCQcY :D |
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| 03:37.41 | Elive_user38 | hmm |
| 03:37.56 | mojo | i am native to the us, born in chicago but never lived there past 1yr. i know minnesota from earliest memory till about 12, then illinois in the metro area near saint louis mo until about 2 1/2 yrs ago when i moved to TN. I'm 37 |
| 03:38.08 | NathanExplosion | so trog, are the hotest euro chicks in romania or denmark? |
| 03:38.10 | mojo | and cp -v blah blah is still talking a long time... |
| 03:38.20 | trog | NathanExplosion: come here and see for yourself :D |
| 03:38.33 | mojo | they are in adverst on russian websites looking to marry into the us, lol |
| 03:38.43 | mojo | ^adverts |
| 03:40.58 | NathanExplosion | lol you gonna be my tour guide trog? |
| 03:41.12 | trog | NathanExplosion: sure, and your drinking pal if you want ;) |
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| 03:44.19 | trog | mojo: did it finish ? |
| 03:44.27 | trog | it should take 3 seconds |
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| 03:45.06 | Elive_user50 | alguien habla español???? |
| 03:45.08 | mojo | sry, went down to get a dringk |
| 03:45.12 | mojo | no it is still sittin there |
| 03:46.12 | Elive_user50 | hola? necesito ayuda .. .. |
| 03:46.21 | mojo | it have more output with the -v but not much. it said "'/dev/hda' -> '/mnt/hdb3/dev/hda'" and that's it, just a cursor.. |
| 03:46.27 | keyra | Elive_user50: que tal ? |
| 03:46.39 | Elive_user50 | hola |
| 03:47.25 | mojo | 3 seconds... just read that part. nope, not happening like that here |
| 03:47.31 | mojo | ctrl-d time |
| 03:48.01 | mojo | okay now what? i killed the cp |
| 03:48.06 | trog | damn, i have only sd drives, cant tell you the minor and major |
| 03:48.16 | trog | oh, but you cann see it from the livecd :D |
| 03:48.19 | Nacho_Bor | hola |
| 03:48.26 | trog | in the terminal without chroot ... "ls -la /dev/hda*" |
| 03:48.33 | Nacho_Bor | quien sabe como instalar |
| 03:48.40 | Elive_user50 | mira lo ke pasa es ke apague mi laptop y al reiniciarla entra hasta donde se pone username and pass pero no inicia las X me regresa ala pantalla de username y en modo de consola al dar startx me dice error aliniciar servidor X o algo asi |
| 03:48.49 | trog | /dev/hda matters actually .... |
| 03:48.52 | Elive_user50 | ke puedo hacer?? ahorita estoy desde el live cd |
| 03:49.11 | mojo | ls3,0 |
| 03:49.23 | Nacho_Bor | quien nsabe como instalar itask-module |
| 03:49.25 | mojo | sry... block dev root disk 3,0 |
| 03:51.11 | mojo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.12 | trog | thats hda ? cool ... "mknod /dev/hda b 3 0" |
| 03:51.21 | mojo | kk |
| 03:51.28 | trog | maybe it would be ok to make the hdb* ones ... |
| 03:51.37 | trog | after that, "grub-install /dev/hda" |
| 03:51.56 | mojo | file exists for hda |
| 03:52.07 | mojo | but i did a ls of /dev and thats the only one |
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| 03:52.17 | Nacho_Bor | como puedo dejar mi elive asi http://code.google.com/p/itask-module/ |
| 03:52.19 | mojo | or not |
| 03:52.21 | mojo | sry |
| 03:52.24 | Nacho_Bor | quien me puede ayudar |
| 03:52.38 | mojo | ls -l /dev/hd* in the NON_CHROOTED term gives a ful list |
| 03:52.44 | trog | Nacho_Bor: itask is incompatible with elive's version of e17 |
| 03:52.50 | mojo | though the minor numbers differ, they're all major 3 |
| 03:53.09 | trog | mojo: there....hdb, hdb1-3 ...but try to grub-install now, see if it works |
| 03:53.20 | trog | /dev/hda should be enough |
| 03:53.20 | mojo | in the non-chrooted term, right? |
| 03:53.41 | roxville | egrub, ? |
| 03:53.43 | trog | yea, you can take the minor and the major from there |
| 03:53.59 | mojo | okay it is doing something, probing devices to guess BIOS drivers (may take a long time it says) |
| 03:54.00 | Elive_user50 | ahi dice komo estas las instrucciones |
| 03:54.18 | Nacho_Bor | trog y con q es compatible |
| 03:54.19 | Nacho_Bor | ?? |
| 03:54.34 | Elive_user50 | keyra ---mira lo ke pasa es ke apague mi laptop y al reiniciarla entra hasta donde se pone username and pass pero no inicia las X me regresa ala pantalla de username y en modo de consola al dar startx me dice error aliniciar servidor X o algo asi |
| 03:54.35 | mojo | ... and a long time it is taking ;) |
| 03:54.40 | trog | Nacho_Bor: with the tests version of e17 |
| 03:54.41 | roxville | apt, x en es egrub Nacho_Bor refuses to understand that he can not install the itask module in elive default |
| 03:54.47 | keyra | Elive_user50: AWESOME, ass... this is the word ;) |
| 03:55.12 | Nacho_Bor | y donde chet se puede instalar?? |
| 03:55.25 | Elive_user50 | alguien puede ayudarme??? tengo este problema mira lo ke pasa es ke apague mi laptop y al reiniciarla entra hasta donde se pone username and pass pero no inicia las X me regresa ala pantalla de username y en modo de consola al dar startx me dice error aliniciar servidor X o algo asi |
| 03:55.59 | mojo | Ug! "Could not finde device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." |
| 03:56.20 | mojo | do i need to tell grub-install that i want the /boot to be on /dev/hdb1 ?? |
| 03:56.22 | trog | yea, create a device for /dev/hdb1 also |
| 03:56.27 | trog | maybe hdb3 too.... |
| 03:56.28 | mojo | there is a device |
| 03:56.32 | Elive_user50 | hhhheeeeeeelllllllpppppppp meeeeeeee |
| 03:56.41 | trog | be sure to check if the majors and minors are ok |
| 03:56.44 | mojo | all the dev nodes seem to be there |
| 03:57.04 | roxville | Elive_user38, my spanish SUCKS... so try to keep it english right now, please |
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| 03:57.20 | trog | try to unmount it (in the non-chrooted terminal) |
| 03:57.24 | trog | hdb1... |
| 03:57.33 | roxville | oops sorry Elive_user38 :) |
| 03:57.49 | mojo | unmount /dev/hda? |
| 03:58.00 | mojo | i don't think it's mounted but i'll check |
| 03:58.21 | mojo | yeah, it's mounted at /mnt/hda1 |
| 03:58.38 | mojo | device is busy, won't umount |
| 03:58.57 | mojo | pwd |
| 03:58.57 | mojo | pwd |
| 03:58.57 | mojo | grr.. wrong kbd |
| 03:59.47 | mojo | cant umount |
| 04:00.29 | mojo | umm, should i try grub install --root-directory=/dev/hdb1 /dev/hda |
| 04:00.38 | Elive_user50 | i can not start my X Swerver in my elive gem all wass good even i shootdown my lap and when power my X not start |
| 04:00.40 | mojo | would that tell it where to put the boot files? |
| 04:01.21 | withoutclass | Elive_user50, what changes did you make |
| 04:01.48 | mojo | oh maybe i should do "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdb1 /dev/hda" |
| 04:02.20 | mojo | i am trying that last one |
| 04:02.20 | trog | mojo: no, dont use the --root-directory |
| 04:02.27 | trog | do this :D |
| 04:02.29 | mojo | oh, okay... maybe i will ctrl-d |
| 04:02.34 | Elive_user50 | no-one |
| 04:02.46 | mojo | hmm.. ctrl-d no joy |
| 04:02.46 | trog | copy /boot from /mnt/hdb3 into / (on the livecd) |
| 04:02.55 | roxville | Elive_user50 you can use startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start |
| 04:02.57 | mojo | okay now i have a prompt again |
| 04:02.57 | trog | and run grub-install /dev/hda from the livecd :) |
| 04:03.00 | trog | errrr |
| 04:03.04 | trog | could it work ? |
| 04:03.38 | trog | it could... |
| 04:03.41 | mojo | umm... okay one more time now? you want me to copy /boot (which is on the livecd) to /mnt/hdb1/ right? |
| 04:03.47 | trog | nope |
| 04:03.50 | mojo | okay then |
| 04:04.01 | trog | from /mnt/hdb1, to /boot |
| 04:04.06 | Elive_user50 | i try but tell error X server |
| 04:04.33 | roxville | hmmm |
| 04:04.39 | Elive_user50 | someting use |
| 04:04.44 | roxville | yes |
| 04:04.54 | Elive_user50 | someting thus |
| 04:05.09 | roxville | i understand |
| 04:05.14 | mojo | omitting directory /mnt/hdb1 |
| 04:05.19 | mojo | cp not working for that |
| 04:05.59 | trog | mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 |
| 04:06.08 | Elive_user50 | ????? |
| 04:06.34 | trog | mojo: lets take this on private, its filling the channel ;) |
| 04:06.34 | mojo | already mounted |
| 04:06.36 | roxville | Elive_user50 elive installer has a "upgrade" feature... try that |
| 04:06.43 | mojo | trog, okay thanks |
| 04:06.50 | roxville | it will NOT destroy your /home partition |
| 04:12.20 | Theoden | IF it's a partition. |
| 04:13.32 | roxville | good night people |
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| 04:33.38 | withoutclass | gnight! |
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| 04:54.51 | Limericist | Hi, does anyone know why another reiserfs partition that I added may not automount? I certainly thought it would |
| 04:55.40 | trog | did you look at the kernel/init output ? |
| 04:58.11 | Limericist | trog, how do I do that? |
| 04:58.29 | trog | press F2 when you see the splash screen |
| 04:58.34 | trog | when booting..... |
| 04:58.57 | Limericist | ok, handy to know, but do I need to reboot? |
| 04:59.04 | trog | you'll see alot of stuff you wont understand, but you'll also see the mouting messages....you'll be able to get if something is wrong |
| 04:59.28 | trog | well....try to open a terminal, make yourself root ("su -") and play with the mount command |
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| 04:59.36 | trog | mount /dev/device /mnt/directory |
| 04:59.51 | Limericist | I see the hard drive - but it was not mounted - I can mount it by hand I think |
| 05:00.03 | LinuxNIT | Limericist, is this on the livecd? |
| 05:00.16 | Limericist | no, I have elive installed |
| 05:00.25 | LinuxNIT | did you add the parition after installing? |
| 05:00.29 | Limericist | LinuxNIT, hi btw |
| 05:00.34 | LinuxNIT | hi :) |
| 05:01.21 | Limericist | I added a partition, booted up, and thought I could use it in rw automatically - but it seems to be forcing me to manually mount it |
| 05:01.43 | Limericist | I'm sure it is an fstab issue |
| 05:01.57 | LinuxNIT | did you add it to the fstab? |
| 05:02.12 | Limericist | but my knowledge of how to set fstab to do that is inadaquate |
| 05:03.23 | LinuxNIT | put your fstab in pastebin.ca |
| 05:03.30 | Limericist | I just thought that reiserfs would be friendlier that my windows partitions which automount out of the box |
| 05:03.44 | keyra | Limericist: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 05:03.50 | Limericist | *than |
| 05:04.01 | trog | reiserfs is development....use ext3 for more reability |
| 05:04.10 | Limericist | thanks for the advice keyra, now explode |
| 05:04.24 | keyra | Limericist: welcome :) |
| 05:04.35 | Limericist | *boom! |
| 05:06.04 | Limericist | how do you mount a drive rw by hand? |
| 05:06.33 | LinuxNIT | with the rw option |
| 05:07.08 | Limericist | mount -rw /dev/sda1 /mnt/linux ? |
| 05:07.39 | LinuxNIT | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/linux -o rw |
| 05:07.45 | LinuxNIT | man mount |
| 05:07.47 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 05:08.00 | Limericist | ahhh, thanks, I learn something new daily thank you |
| 05:08.09 | LinuxNIT | np |
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| 05:10.11 | ivan_ | NathanExplosion, hello!! |
| 05:10.18 | ivan_ | NathanExplosion, how are you? |
| 05:10.26 | keyra | ivan_: hi |
| 05:10.37 | ivan_ | hi to all |
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| 05:27.19 | Limericist | I am completely amazed how much better elive is compared to Ubuntu, I used ubuntu for one week - so shiny, but sooooo many problems |
| 05:28.43 | Limericist | I can install amarok in elive and get perfect functionality - but in ubuntu, the icons are not working - the alsa driver crackles, - but not in elive ... |
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| 05:38.26 | Limericist | but I noticed that elive has difficulty with oss, any ideas here? |
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| 06:05.49 | KsRyno | hello |
| 06:06.03 | keyra | KsRyno: hi |
| 06:13.31 | KsRyno | antbody awake? |
| 06:20.45 | LinuxNIT | howdy KsRyno |
| 06:23.21 | KsRyno | im in here now |
| 06:23.37 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:23.50 | KsRyno | just got composite working in elive |
| 06:24.27 | KsRyno | wish beryl was compatible |
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| 06:25.01 | KsRyno | anyway - you in okc? im in wichita |
| 06:25.34 | Elive_user24 | join /#gstreamer |
| 06:25.41 | Elive_user24 | join /gstreamer |
| 06:30.08 | LinuxNIT | yeah im in okc |
| 06:30.34 | KsRyno | cool |
| 06:31.44 | LinuxNIT | ive got family up your way though |
| 06:31.59 | KsRyno | my gramps was born in tulsa |
| 06:32.26 | KsRyno | met another guy from lawrence |
| 06:32.48 | KsRyno | small world.. really small world |
| 06:33.01 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 06:33.19 | KsRyno | and almost everyone else I have talked too on here is from another continent |
| 06:33.27 | KsRyno | *to |
| 06:34.18 | Elive_user24 | me from ..Asia... |
| 06:34.18 | LinuxNIT | yeah we get a wide variety in here |
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| 06:35.41 | KsRyno | hi user 24 |
| 06:35.42 | ogrosticlops | Hey all. |
| 06:35.56 | KsRyno | hi ogrosticlops |
| 06:35.58 | Elive_user24 | hi KsRyno.. |
| 06:36.24 | ogrosticlops | I'm having a hell of a time getting the liveCD to work, but I might have rather odd specs |
| 06:36.32 | KsRyno | any of you guys know how to add gnome to the elive login screen |
| 06:36.37 | KsRyno | what is wrong? |
| 06:38.15 | ogrosticlops | The 1.0 cd passed the MD5, so I know that it's just these machines, but i'm trying to install to an IBM Netfinity 5000 server with the aic7xxx SCSI raid controller series, 2x 9.1gb hot-swap SCSI drives, 512mb PC133 ECC ram, with an IDE cd-rom |
| 06:38.54 | KsRyno | wow- i know notihing about that server |
| 06:38.56 | ogrosticlops | It detects the controller and sees the drives during boot, but stops at the ash shell |
| 06:39.12 | ogrosticlops | with "unable to connect to tty" |
| 06:39.40 | ogrosticlops | from ash, i'm really unsure how to even progress, but i'm more than sure it's too many steps to go by firsthand |
| 06:41.15 | KsRyno | yeah man, sorry i have no clue either |
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| 06:45.28 | KsRyno | hi tommy |
| 06:45.41 | Tommy- | howdy |
| 06:46.28 | Elive_user24 | hey tommy |
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| 06:47.00 | Mtraker | hi |
| 06:47.18 | KsRyno | hi mtraker |
| 06:47.23 | Mtraker | where is the exige pakage? |
| 06:47.41 | KsRyno | I dont know what that is? |
| 06:47.57 | Mtraker | alt+escape in e16 |
| 06:48.31 | KsRyno | havent used e16 much |
| 06:50.17 | Mtraker | i'm come back now |
| 06:50.31 | KsRyno | ?? |
| 06:52.51 | ogrosticlops | Ugh, this is really disheartening. I knew keeping these servers around wasn't going to be worth a damn. |
| 06:54.00 | ogrosticlops | Ubuntu runs alright, OpenSuse runs like I'm on a 486, W2k advanced server actually runs up to speed. |
| 06:54.38 | KsRyno | I am trying to install elive on an aincnt toshiba laptop |
| 06:55.13 | ogrosticlops | What are the specs/what are your problems? |
| 06:55.13 | KsRyno | and I get "cant access tty: job control turned off" |
| 06:55.26 | ogrosticlops | Yeah, that's where I end on this server. |
| 06:55.30 | ogrosticlops | thank you |
| 06:55.35 | KsRyno | pentium mmx 266 96mb ram |
| 06:55.59 | ogrosticlops | I'm guessing there's so SCSI/RAID on that, since it's an older laptop |
| 06:56.06 | KsRyno | 4gb hdd |
| 06:56.13 | ogrosticlops | so we have a common problem with 2 far different machines |
| 06:56.19 | KsRyno | no its old ide |
| 06:56.21 | KsRyno | but yes |
| 06:56.41 | ogrosticlops | when it stops at can't access tty:.... does it bring you to the ash shell with (initramfs) as the prompt? |
| 06:56.51 | KsRyno | yea |
| 06:57.00 | ogrosticlops | I can ls and see the fs it was working with, but i really have no idea where to go from there |
| 06:57.13 | ogrosticlops | sadly, it install on my core 2 duo just fine |
| 06:57.19 | ogrosticlops | *installs |
| 06:57.31 | KsRyno | yea, i am running on a 3.2 p4 |
| 06:57.55 | KsRyno | elive is the only distro that my graphics card works with out of the box |
| 06:58.04 | KsRyno | (hp laptop) |
| 06:58.24 | ogrosticlops | I'm on my netfinity, with a p4 3.0ghz machine behind me, but I refuse to leave this machine, or it's sister machine until I can get this installed |
| 06:58.48 | ogrosticlops | I just wish there were a native installer instead of a liveCD image copy/config |
| 06:59.24 | KsRyno | yea me too |
| 06:59.26 | ogrosticlops | I ran the devel DVD on machines of various specs and hardware infamy, and it runs well |
| 06:59.46 | ogrosticlops | What card are you running that it's the only one that likes it out-of-box? |
| 06:59.59 | KsRyno | mobility radeon 9100 128mb |
| 07:00.18 | KsRyno | integrated into the motherboardof the laptop |
| 07:00.30 | ogrosticlops | yeah, proprietary card |
| 07:00.56 | ogrosticlops | Fedora supported a mobility radeon on a toshiba laptop I had |
| 07:00.57 | KsRyno | does it say "Something wrong with image mounting" too? |
| 07:01.04 | ogrosticlops | yes, it does |
| 07:01.07 | KsRyno | really? |
| 07:01.12 | KsRyno | mine too |
| 07:01.15 | KsRyno | wtf |
| 07:01.18 | ogrosticlops | which made me hop back to my PC to check the MD5 against the image |
| 07:01.25 | KsRyno | wish thanatermisis was here |
| 07:01.41 | ogrosticlops | md5 passes, but I get those same 2 errors, and really, we're both on "legacy" machines |
| 07:01.56 | KsRyno | I think it is our cd rom drives- old ide |
| 07:02.31 | ogrosticlops | Worked with the IDE cdrom in the core2duo when installing to my SATA 500gb |
| 07:03.12 | ogrosticlops | really, though, that's the only common we have with the same errors |
| 07:03.20 | KsRyno | how old is that server |
| 07:03.25 | ogrosticlops | 1999 |
| 07:03.34 | ogrosticlops | latest bios patches |
| 07:03.53 | KsRyno | very different ide though- my toshiba is 1996-97 ish |
| 07:04.14 | ogrosticlops | I figured it was something because it's a server, and not a desktop machine, but you're getting the same error in the same place |
| 07:04.31 | KsRyno | exactly- it wont mount the cdrom |
| 07:04.44 | KsRyno | thats my guess at least |
| 07:04.58 | ogrosticlops | yeah, before those do you get the error about /DSSCD/cdrom/xserver/ |
| 07:05.40 | KsRyno | yea- "no such file or directory" |
| 07:05.48 | ogrosticlops | yeah |
| 07:05.51 | ogrosticlops | Ugh. |
| 07:06.09 | KsRyno | i bet there is a solution though |
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| 07:06.26 | KsRyno | i am running debian etch on that laptop now |
| 07:06.34 | KsRyno | it runs decently |
| 07:07.08 | KsRyno | maybe i can just install e17 on there |
| 07:07.24 | KsRyno | i cant believe that I havent tried |
| 07:07.25 | ogrosticlops | Suse runs like a slug on this with gnome, and to install ubuntu just eats up time that I could spend trying to figure out why I can't just get it to mount the cdrom properly |
| 07:07.50 | ogrosticlops | e17 isn't hard to get running, but I loved the elive package as a whole |
| 07:08.03 | KsRyno | me too |
| 07:08.27 | ogrosticlops | well, ok, e17 is a pain in the ass like e was when I was running mandrake before it was mandriva |
| 07:08.47 | ogrosticlops | you could package it, but it wasn't.. right.. |
| 07:09.30 | KsRyno | yea |
| 07:09.43 | KsRyno | I had e17 running on suse 10.2 |
| 07:09.44 | ogrosticlops | I bought mandrake in 1999, I don't think I'll be eligible for the "club" anymore |
| 07:10.01 | ogrosticlops | Well, Suse just runs like a slug and I don't see why |
| 07:10.09 | ogrosticlops | on this machine at least |
| 07:10.19 | KsRyno | processor compatibility? |
| 07:10.53 | ogrosticlops | well, i would hope since it's an enterprise OS they would at least support older CPUs, let alone servers |
| 07:11.53 | KsRyno | right |
| 07:12.10 | ogrosticlops | I had ubuntu badger on a 120mhz p1 with 128mb and with XFCE installed it was great |
| 07:13.52 | ogrosticlops | I did a network install of opensuse 10.1 and made sure that i trimmed the extras off and It runs like XP betas did on my 200mhz |
| 07:14.29 | KsRyno | hmm. you should ask thanatermesis when he is on |
| 07:14.32 | ogrosticlops | "codename whistler" |
| 07:15.00 | trog | suse is slow by design |
| 07:15.08 | trog | 10000 applications, from which you use 100 |
| 07:15.18 | ogrosticlops | well, i wonder if i could mkisofs to the 2nd SCSI swap drive, and then change that as the boot |
| 07:15.44 | KsRyno | one way to find out |
| 07:15.47 | trog | what do you want to do with it ? |
| 07:15.48 | ogrosticlops | I have used Suse since 1996, and it's really disappointing |
| 07:16.34 | ogrosticlops | trog: What do I want to do with what? |
| 07:16.50 | trog | with the iso ? or the swap partition |
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| 07:18.29 | ogrosticlops | Oh, I wasn't sure if I could mkisofs the elive iso to the 2nd SCSI, and set that to boot and use it to install to the 1st drive in the machine. |
| 07:18.36 | KsRyno | hi svalovic |
| 07:19.03 | KsRyno | you should try in my opinion |
| 07:19.27 | KsRyno | i really think that it is having trouble with our aincent cdroms |
| 07:19.43 | ogrosticlops | Yeah, I really don't have anything to lose by doing it, but it seems like it's bound for failure |
| 07:20.11 | KsRyno | don't think like that, it will make you make mistakes |
| 07:20.32 | ogrosticlops | and an ide cdrom on a scsi controlled server hasn't yielded problems with any other distros |
| 07:24.13 | ogrosticlops | Well, I have nothing to lose, other than respect (i didn't actually have that anyways) |
| 07:24.51 | KsRyno | nah, youll figure it out |
| 07:25.02 | KsRyno | good luck |
| 07:26.12 | trog | ogrosticlops: i dont think it will work |
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| 07:26.22 | ogrosticlops | Now I just have to wonder why Suse doesn't see my CD-rom |
| 07:26.24 | trog | :) |
| 07:26.31 | ogrosticlops | trog: you're most likely right |
| 07:26.33 | trog | in this situation, you could use qemu |
| 07:28.13 | ogrosticlops | I'll look it up now, would you elaborate? |
| 07:28.26 | trog | qemu --help |
| 07:28.29 | trog | qemu file.iso |
| 07:28.49 | trog | it boots the iso in a virtual machine ...from which you can install to the hard drive |
| 07:29.23 | trog | qemu -hda /dev/hda file.iso |
| 07:29.37 | ogrosticlops | Oh, are you serious? |
| 07:29.41 | trog | of course |
| 07:29.51 | ogrosticlops | That's.. |
| 07:29.53 | ogrosticlops | well |
| 07:30.00 | ogrosticlops | it just seems too easy to be true |
| 07:30.03 | trog | ;) |
| 07:30.12 | trog | most things are ... |
| 07:30.29 | KsRyno | try working on a volvo 850 |
| 07:30.31 | KsRyno | lol |
| 07:30.39 | Mtraker | i'm install gdm and i've a litle problem. In the init don't run keyboard |
| 07:31.01 | Mtraker | if i restart X than run ok |
| 07:31.26 | ogrosticlops | Well, thanks Trog, I look forward to seeing you on the graphical side of things |
| 07:31.33 | trog | good luck ogrosticlops :) |
| 07:31.58 | trog | (it will be slower than normal, since its emulated, be warned) |
| 07:32.12 | ogrosticlops | I'm guessing hda = sda on a SCSI sys |
| 07:32.26 | trog | and also, you should avoid having the same hard drive accessed by qemu and the booted system, at once.... |
| 07:32.29 | trog | (if possible) |
| 07:32.37 | ogrosticlops | oh |
| 07:32.50 | trog | hda and sda ? ...could be a conflict, since the adressing method is different |
| 07:33.07 | trog | there was a qemu gui ...but i cant remember its name :"> i havent slept for 23 hours |
| 07:33.14 | ogrosticlops | wait, it's not installing via emulation, it's running completely in an emulated environment? |
| 07:33.26 | trog | yes |
| 07:33.37 | trog | but you could use /dev/hda (globally) as /dev/hda (emulated) |
| 07:34.41 | ogrosticlops | yeah, but installing to HD in an emu system wouldn't really work on the actual machine |
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| 07:36.17 | trog | it would |
| 07:36.28 | trog | there could be a problem with grub, but that can be easily fixed |
| 07:36.35 | trog | i installed debian that way....and others |
| 07:37.26 | ogrosticlops | So the only slow part is running the Live part, and it will install itself and from there I can boot, and run without an emulated environment? |
| 07:37.41 | trog | exactly |
| 07:37.51 | trog | if everything works ok ;) |
| 07:38.00 | ogrosticlops | That is great, and you are great for that. |
| 07:38.12 | ogrosticlops | Thank you. |
| 07:40.09 | trog | anytime :) |
| 07:40.37 | trog | qemu-launcher is the gui for qemu |
| 07:40.40 | trog | much easier to use |
| 07:41.42 | ogrosticlops | Yeah, now for the switching to X and back while I wait for Suse to bring up yast to install qemu |
| 07:42.00 | ogrosticlops | and qemu-launcher apparently |
| 07:43.02 | ogrosticlops | I still have the debian businesscard cd, I don't know why I picked opensuse net install |
| 07:45.22 | trog | think they're from the same package, qemu.... |
| 07:46.26 | ogrosticlops | Yeah, but debian ran well on S2, I'm on S1 and at 70lbs/server and waiting to swap hardware from one to another the wait it worth more than the effort |
| 07:46.51 | ogrosticlops | it - is |
| 07:48.58 | ogrosticlops | I really miss BBSs at this point |
| 07:49.14 | ogrosticlops | well, I don't miss Ymodem/Zmodem |
| 07:49.28 | ogrosticlops | or ASCII. |
| 07:49.28 | trog | i still got my old 33600 & 56000 bps modems :D |
| 07:49.39 | trog | ascii !!! good point :) |
| 07:49.55 | trog | i miss old dos games...in fact, i dont miss them too much, since i have dosbox :D |
| 07:50.13 | trog | but still, those were good times... :) was doing alot of graphics in pascal+asm |
| 07:50.40 | ogrosticlops | I just dug up my atari 1200XL and my C64, but the c64 disk drive is dead. I have somewhere near 120 games all hole-punched for pirating glory |
| 07:51.22 | ogrosticlops | Yeah, dosbox was great, and I'm actually glad there's a telnet BBS scene still going on, I really needed my LORD fix a few years ago |
| 07:51.27 | trog | i still have a 16mhz 286 around :) freedos, norton commander...norton utilities 8 ... |
| 07:52.04 | trog | dos 6.22 somewhere on a cd...win 3.1 :) |
| 07:52.57 | ogrosticlops | I have a 90mhz compaq 433z running '98 with ethernet (sadly) and a pentium overdrive 100mhz running ubuntu as well as it can |
| 07:53.15 | trog | how does ubuntu perform on 100mhz ? |
| 07:54.11 | ogrosticlops | 4-5 sec lag, I actually used it for a bit when my core2duo died and refused a new machine from Dell |
| 07:54.20 | trog | i have a 850mhz 256ram p3 ...laptop....e17 runs like a charm :D |
| 07:54.46 | trog | the .040 version... |
| 07:54.46 | ogrosticlops | I ended up saving $900 and built the same machine between tiger/newegg |
| 07:55.26 | ogrosticlops | I really, really love proving the standard wrong by having machines that are competant by standards |
| 07:55.32 | trog | :)) |
| 07:55.50 | ogrosticlops | *not competant by standards |
| 07:56.44 | ogrosticlops | I ran windows XP (whistler) right before it went RTM on a 200mhz Pentium with 500mb ram, and that was just easy |
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| 07:57.08 | trog | i switched to linux in 98 ...didnt quite catch xp |
| 07:57.13 | trog | had to use it @ work though |
| 07:57.21 | ogrosticlops | from alpha to beta, it's been great about running those, and most linux distros have always run well |
| 07:57.44 | trog | suse 5.3 was my first :) then i switched to slack |
| 07:57.45 | ogrosticlops | I started with Linux in 1996-1998 with slak |
| 07:58.04 | ogrosticlops | It was so hard to get built with no internet at the time but I managed, and I loved it |
| 07:58.29 | trog | X was my biggest problem....beside screwing all partitions on my first install :)) |
| 07:58.54 | trog | then i recompiled 2.0.36 :D great piece of software |
| 07:59.09 | ogrosticlops | I had friends' houses to go play the Scumm games like full throttle and Sam N Max with, but I had a 2 node BBS and I was happy in my area |
| 07:59.20 | trog | quests !!! :D |
| 07:59.26 | trog | beneath a steel sky...yummy |
| 07:59.44 | ogrosticlops | restorrb was a nice tool back when partitioning was simple volumes, for me |
| 07:59.45 | trog | larry 6, space quest 5, indiana jones series...dott...i loved those games |
| 08:00.04 | ogrosticlops | space quest was the shit |
| 08:00.06 | trog | still have the original full throttle cd :) |
| 08:00.11 | ogrosticlops | polive quest as well. |
| 08:00.40 | ogrosticlops | I love Full Throttle, when you unleashed the wind-up bunnies. |
| 08:00.47 | trog | didnt like sq1-4, but 5 was ok :) 6 looked even better, but didnt got the chance to play it...one of the hardest quests i saw |
| 08:01.10 | trog | wind bunnies ? i remember blowing some land mines with bunnies |
| 08:01.55 | trog | or was that another game ? |
| 08:01.58 | ogrosticlops | Yeah, you unleash the bunnies to the mine field, and it plays the warfare orchesta music |
| 08:02.13 | trog | yea.....now i remember the scene :) |
| 08:02.14 | ogrosticlops | and the music dies off a little with each bunny that blows up |
| 08:02.23 | trog | in some deserted city, IIRC |
| 08:02.33 | ogrosticlops | comedic glory at it's best |
| 08:02.40 | trog | :)) |
| 08:02.51 | ogrosticlops | Sam N Max at all? |
| 08:02.53 | trog | sam & max was also pretty |
| 08:02.56 | trog | :)) |
| 08:03.02 | trog | same thought ;) |
| 08:03.03 | ogrosticlops | Stairs in your house at all? |
| 08:03.07 | trog | black humor |
| 08:03.55 | ogrosticlops | Sam N' Max was great, the mirror house always messed me up when I was younger |
| 08:04.03 | trog | in the vortex ? |
| 08:04.15 | ogrosticlops | yeah, magnet/mirrors i guess |
| 08:04.23 | trog | good part of the game :D |
| 08:04.47 | trog | companions of xanth & lost in time ? did you catch those ? |
| 08:05.11 | trog | (i have s&m if you want it...beside many other dos games) |
| 08:05.54 | ogrosticlops | I just played chapter 1 of the new Sam N Max, but didn't finish as I just put Suse on this box instead of running 2k |
| 08:06.09 | trog | new s&m ?? |
| 08:06.30 | ogrosticlops | Yeah, there's a new feature of Sam N Max out now |
| 08:06.37 | trog | didnt know that |
| 08:06.42 | trog | vista compilant ? :))) |
| 08:06.56 | ogrosticlops | I played them on vista, so I suppose so |
| 08:07.19 | ogrosticlops | I don't care for the animation, but the humor is dead on and the voices are near good. |
| 08:07.27 | trog | omg, its 3d |
| 08:07.35 | ogrosticlops | they're making it 3d, yeah |
| 08:08.08 | ogrosticlops | There was supposed to be a remake of the first game, but with new engines and it was trashed due to interest/money |
| 08:08.18 | ogrosticlops | so, another firm picked it up |
| 08:08.30 | ogrosticlops | they seem alright |
| 08:09.54 | ogrosticlops | I need a VKM or a 3rd monitor |
| 08:10.08 | trog | :)) |
| 08:10.19 | trog | a 3'rd monitor ? :) 2 aint enough ? |
| 08:10.45 | ogrosticlops | I'm used to living in BitchX, but i'm really stalwart with the elive on my netfinity machines |
| 08:11.28 | ogrosticlops | I really can't see why it hates these servers |
| 08:11.29 | trog | BitchX ruled :D better than ircii |
| 08:11.43 | ogrosticlops | fuck yeah it's better than ircii. |
| 08:11.51 | trog | was a console freak :) ...BitchX, pine, centericq |
| 08:12.18 | ogrosticlops | I love the console clients, I'll never change that |
| 08:12.37 | trog | they'll die when ssh dies ;) |
| 08:12.41 | ogrosticlops | I can keep an IRC box around forever. |
| 08:12.46 | ogrosticlops | and telnet |
| 08:12.57 | trog | too risky for my taste ... |
| 08:13.09 | trog | dont use ftp either. sftp is better for me |
| 08:13.55 | ogrosticlops | Secure layer is great, but I have nothing to hide on the machines that people think they can see. |
| 08:14.20 | trog | not even your user & pass ? or is it your network ? |
| 08:15.01 | trog | well, i'm off to sleep |
| 08:15.30 | ogrosticlops | Noone will get anything from finding anything I use to sign in-out of my local machines. |
| 08:15.46 | trog | its fine then i think... |
| 08:16.09 | ogrosticlops | Oh, missed that you're headed off |
| 08:16.25 | trog | inside my network, i usually use key identification...saves me some time, and ssh -v .... stays in my fingers memory |
| 08:16.26 | ogrosticlops | well, goodnight man, talk to you later |
| 08:16.27 | trog | :) |
| 08:16.49 | trog | i wanted to take off 1 hour ago, but i got stuck to the keyboard ;) |
| 08:16.58 | trog | gnite, nice talking to you |
| 08:16.59 | ogrosticlops | oh, that happens |
| 08:17.08 | ogrosticlops | so, what of that ssh -v? |
| 08:17.19 | trog | ssh -v trog@machine |
| 08:17.47 | trog | well, gnite :), talk to ya later |
| 08:17.52 | ogrosticlops | alright |
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| 08:27.50 | Elive_user13 | hi |
| 08:28.14 | Elive_user13 | i've a problem with fonts size system |
| 08:28.27 | Elive_user13 | i can't change size |
| 08:29.30 | Elive_user13 | i'm goin to elpanel, e17, terminal manager, and i see change size font, but don¡'t run well |
| 08:30.02 | Elive_user13 | what program is it? |
| 08:30.08 | Elive_user13 | i want to reinstall |
| 08:33.49 | ogrosticlops | desktop -> preferences |
| 08:34.18 | ogrosticlops | Sorry, going by memory here |
| 08:34.43 | Elive_user13 | .... |
| 08:34.48 | Elive_user13 | desktop? |
| 08:34.52 | Elive_user13 | where is it? |
| 08:34.59 | ogrosticlops | That's with gnome, my bad |
| 08:35.06 | Elive_user13 | ok |
| 08:35.33 | ogrosticlops | does left-click give you anything? |
| 08:35.54 | ogrosticlops | if not, look under middle click or Right-click. |
| 08:36.05 | Elive_user13 | the real problem is in urxtv |
| 08:36.12 | Elive_user13 | is very small |
| 08:36.51 | ogrosticlops | Well, you'll have to give me about whenever it takes me to get it to install on my server box |
| 08:37.44 | ogrosticlops | after that, I might be able to help you though I have a Theatre 550pro which linux is notorious for not liking properly |
| 08:38.20 | ogrosticlops | urxtv Is for TV tuners? |
| 08:40.24 | Elive_user13 | sorry urxvt |
| 08:40.30 | Elive_user13 | is a shell |
| 08:40.49 | Elive_user13 | i come back now, i need restart X |
| 08:43.49 | mojo | anyone using elive for music recording? |
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| 10:21.38 | ElemonGW | i ge this error |
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| 10:22.11 | ElemonGW | E: /var/cache/apt/archives/entrance-themes_cvs20070809_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/entrance/themes/elivestyle.edj', which is also in package entrance |
| 10:22.22 | ElemonGW | when trying to upgare |
| 10:22.33 | ElemonGW | with tests repo enabled |
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| 10:22.38 | ElemonGW | any ideas? |
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| 10:22.48 | keyra | ElemonGW: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 10:23.10 | ElemonGW | so it is a problem of the repo? |
| 10:24.44 | roxville | ElemonGW, is it failing to overwrite it? |
| 10:25.20 | ElemonGW | well, i don't know. that's the error it gives me |
| 10:30.17 | roxville | ElemonGW, you are aware that this upgrading CAN cause your e17 to not work totally the way you're used to? |
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| 10:30.35 | roxville | good morning/day wasynyt |
| 10:30.38 | ElemonGW | well, yes |
| 10:30.44 | ElemonGW | but i just installed elive |
| 10:30.44 | roxville | ok |
| 10:30.53 | ElemonGW | so i will not lose any importand data |
| 10:31.09 | ElemonGW | i will just need to re-install it |
| 10:31.13 | ElemonGW | if i am unlucky |
| 10:31.19 | roxville | yeah |
| 10:31.26 | roxville | ok, then go ahead |
| 10:31.55 | roxville | ElemonGW, just to be extra careful... |
| 10:32.09 | roxville | AFTER you have installed/upgraded... |
| 10:32.32 | roxville | open elpanel and change the entrance theme to e17-default |
| 10:32.34 | ElemonGW | the problem is i can't |
| 10:32.40 | ElemonGW | because it gives me that error |
| 10:32.46 | keyra | roxville: don't worry, this is planned for the next iso ;) |
| 10:32.49 | ElemonGW | i can't upgrade |
| 10:33.00 | roxville | ok, well that was what i asked earlier |
| 10:33.48 | roxville | so remove /usr/share/entrance/themes/elivestyle.edj first |
| 10:34.52 | ElemonGW | already tried that but no luck |
| 10:34.56 | ElemonGW | still it gives me that error |
| 10:36.03 | roxville | ok |
| 10:36.16 | roxville | ElemonGW, do this: apt-get clean |
| 10:36.29 | roxville | apt-get install e17 |
| 10:40.52 | ElemonGW | will do everything in 5 minutes |
| 10:41.00 | ElemonGW | i am eating now ;) |
| 10:41.08 | roxville | hehe ok |
| 10:41.41 | roxville | i should go back to bed... my wife had me drive her to the bus stop... VERY early today |
| 10:48.08 | ElemonGW | back |
| 10:49.23 | ElemonGW | i just broke lots of things |
| 10:49.35 | ElemonGW | i will try to revert everything |
| 10:49.42 | ElemonGW | and then i will do what you suggested |
| 10:50.53 | ElemonGW | i am doing a restart, will come back soon |
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| 11:12.31 | Yngwie | hi |
| 11:13.04 | roxville | hi Yngwie |
| 11:13.31 | Yngwie | do you know wher I can find a userbar for forum with Elive theme ? |
| 11:16.00 | roxville | hmmm... |
| 11:16.05 | roxville | hold on |
| 11:18.36 | Yngwie | thx !! :D |
| 11:18.52 | roxville | Yngwie, i have another one too |
| 11:19.39 | roxville | they look similar |
| 11:19.56 | Yngwie | ok thx very much ) |
| 11:20.19 | roxville | i made these over a year and a half ago... this is the first time anyone jas asked for it :) |
| 11:21.11 | Yngwie | ^^ |
| 11:21.18 | roxville | hehe |
| 11:21.31 | Yngwie | Once I found it on the web... but now I can't remenber where... |
| 11:21.46 | roxville | maybe i'll some new ones... with the new elive logo on them... |
| 11:22.14 | roxville | yeah i think that site went down |
| 11:24.11 | Yngwie | Thx again, cu ! |
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| 11:52.10 | Tommy | hi all |
| 12:01.26 | Begasus | hi |
| 12:02.20 | Tommy | ah, didnt take too long for a response |
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| 12:22.29 | anquietas | Greetings |
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| 12:27.39 | wizard123 | hello all |
| 12:27.39 | keyra | wizard123: hi |
| 12:27.40 | anquietas | Hey wizard123 |
| 12:31.17 | wizard123 | what's up elive users ? |
| 12:31.44 | anquietas | No news over here... |
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| 12:38.30 | wizard123 | heh.. .pl :) |
| 12:38.48 | anquietas | Hmhm. |
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| 12:49.05 | wizard123 | i've designed first draft of my livecd.. but i'm still thinking about kernel |
| 12:50.49 | anquietas | You could use the openSolaris kernel. |
| 12:52.00 | wizard123 | i was thinking about that.. but i barely know solaris.. i only have few solaris servers at work.. and that's all |
| 12:52.06 | wizard123 | i was thinking about openbsd |
| 12:52.45 | wizard123 | there is not much project based on openbsd and it's nice system |
| 12:52.46 | wizard123 | it also has good base, so i could wip out gnu ;) |
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| 12:55.50 | anquietas | Hehe. |
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| 13:09.10 | wizard123 | anquietas: on top of that: xorg from openbsd (6.9 iirc) and gnustep + etoile |
| 13:13.48 | Maximiliano_ADL | buenos dias |
| 13:13.54 | Maximiliano_ADL | goodmornig |
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| 13:21.40 | anquietas | Good Morning |
| 13:28.00 | anquietas | wizard123, |
| 13:28.22 | wizard123 | ? |
| 13:28.33 | anquietas | do you have to code something, or is it more like a lego brick game? |
| 13:28.44 | wizard123 | it depends.. |
| 13:28.55 | wizard123 | i have to write an installer |
| 13:29.29 | wizard123 | probably i'll use GNUstep and its development tools |
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| 13:49.28 | bagolight | hello Anquietas |
| 13:49.42 | anquietas | Hello Bagolight. |
| 13:49.42 | bagolight | good day at all |
| 13:49.42 | keyra | bagolight: hi |
| 13:50.11 | bagolight | hello Keyra good afternoon |
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| 13:53.06 | bagolight | se n'è andato |
| 13:54.54 | bagolight | I have lost any think this afternoon? |
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| 14:08.32 | bagolight | Have try to change the cannel, (mi sono perso) |
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| 14:20.02 | bagolight | what yuor native language keyra? |
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| 14:25.57 | Limericist | hi, is there any way to update libc6 in elive -- "Depends: libc6 (>=2.4-1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13 is to be installed" is what I get when I want to install a third-party app |
| 14:26.03 | roxville | bagolight, keyras native language is C++... she's a b.o.t |
| 14:26.25 | Limericist | hi roxville ! I liked your music |
| 14:27.04 | roxville | cool, thx :) |
| 14:27.47 | Limericist | I bet you updating libc6 whould break a whole lot of things |
| 14:28.21 | roxville | oooooh yeah..... |
| 14:28.37 | Limericist | wonder if it is possible |
| 14:29.29 | roxville | Limericist, don't do it |
| 14:29.50 | roxville | unless you're on a testing machine... that you can break without probs |
| 14:30.11 | Limericist | I am testing, I can test - no problem |
| 14:30.36 | Limericist | my problem is I love amarok |
| 14:31.02 | bagolight | Whats your favorite music |
| 14:31.08 | Limericist | *please don't tell me about rhythmbox --- yuk a tooie |
| 14:31.28 | Limericist | amarok is way ahead |
| 14:32.06 | Limericist | and the amarok in the repos of elive is 1.4.4 |
| 14:32.18 | Limericist | but 1.4.5 has come out |
| 14:32.53 | Limericist | and it kicks a$$ |
| 14:33.16 | bagolight | what do you think about qwerty |
| 14:33.30 | Limericist | qwerty? |
| 14:33.54 | Limericist | never used it if it's an app |
| 14:34.06 | Limericist | I use a qwerty keyboard though |
| 14:35.18 | bagolight | you write only in english? |
| 14:35.34 | Limericist | yes, only in english |
| 14:36.12 | Limericist | bbl, gtg |
| 14:36.45 | bagolight | my english is very poor, but i like amarok, is very user frendly |
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| 14:37.14 | ElemonGW | hi |
| 14:37.24 | bagolight | hi |
| 14:38.10 | ElemonGW | what I have understood about the test repo so far: do not enable it, it will render your system to unusable |
| 14:38.15 | ElemonGW | ;) |
| 14:38.24 | keyra | ElemonGW: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 14:38.39 | ElemonGW | yada yada |
| 14:39.05 | ElemonGW | ;) |
| 14:39.06 | roxville | ElemonGW, what happened? |
| 14:39.15 | ElemonGW | jsu if you enable it |
| 14:39.23 | ElemonGW | and you choose to upgrade |
| 14:39.40 | ElemonGW | it will try to install the latest version of e17 |
| 14:39.50 | ElemonGW | which requires other configuratioin |
| 14:39.55 | ElemonGW | so all your menus |
| 14:40.00 | ElemonGW | and configuratios |
| 14:40.03 | ElemonGW | will be lost |
| 14:40.06 | bagolight | I an using now the e17 version |
| 14:40.17 | ElemonGW | from the test repo? |
| 14:40.54 | ElemonGW | a, roxville |
| 14:41.05 | ElemonGW | i managed to fix that problem |
| 14:41.14 | ElemonGW | by uninstalling entrance |
| 14:41.20 | ElemonGW | and then re-installing it |
| 14:41.25 | ElemonGW | it was the only wqay |
| 14:41.29 | ElemonGW | *way |
| 14:41.34 | roxville | ok |
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| 14:42.21 | ElemonGW | i am wondering, why thanamersis (I can't remember his exact name) doesn't update to the latest e17 version available his distro |
| 14:42.22 | ElemonGW | elive |
| 14:42.34 | ElemonGW | and create a configuration for it |
| 14:42.38 | ElemonGW | and everything else needed |
| 14:43.07 | ElemonGW | most of the problems that exist with gem will be fixed if you updfate e17 |
| 14:43.21 | keyra | ElemonGW: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 14:43.49 | ElemonGW | and you told me sth new.... |
| 14:43.49 | ElemonGW | lol |
| 14:43.50 | ElemonGW | ;) |
| 14:43.53 | bagolight | i using e 17 version live (not installed) |
| 14:44.08 | Elive_user46 | newbie question: I just moved an icon out of the ibar... and now it's gone! How do I put one back in the bar? |
| 14:46.42 | roxville | Elive_user46, do you have that app open? |
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| 14:47.28 | roxville | Elive_user46, open elpanel... click on the leftmost icon... then e17 and find "entanlge" |
| 14:47.48 | Elive_user46 | yes, i think... am at the desktop... itried allthe different edit settings, but dont see where you can add/remove icons from the ibar.. other than me just moving an icon off the bar and it disappeared |
| 14:48.04 | Elive_user46 | ok one sec |
| 14:49.26 | roxville | Elive_user46, you can also try this... if the app is open... click and drag the little icon in the upper left or right corner and drop it in ibar |
| 14:50.50 | Elive_user46 | ok... completly forgot to check elpanel.. all sorts of settings in entangle i see now! |
| 14:52.56 | Elive_user46 | thanks... that is just what I needed! One last thing, everything worked great out of the box... a dvd played great, however, I noticed the sound started getting out of synch... eventually it crashed... and my sound is gone. I'm sure restarted will fix, but is this a known issue? |
| 14:54.07 | roxville | it can happen |
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| 14:54.16 | roxville | you played with mplayer? |
| 14:54.19 | Elive_user46 | ok.. it was mplayer btw |
| 14:54.24 | roxville | lol |
| 14:54.34 | Elive_user46 | would it be a 16 vs 17 issue or not applicable? |
| 14:54.53 | Elive_user46 | oops.. should i try another player? |
| 14:54.57 | roxville | in mplayer settings, choose a different video driver... like xv or x11 |
| 14:55.16 | roxville | my favorite is oxine |
| 14:55.37 | roxville | but there are files that only mplayer plays... but oxine can play dvd's |
| 14:57.17 | Elive_user46 | ok, i'll try oxine...everything great so far... only distro that recognized my ati 800xl and seemed to know what to do. |
| 14:57.32 | keyra | Elive_user46: http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/autolaunchers |
| 14:57.38 | roxville | cool! |
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| 15:29.35 | bagolight | ii |
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| 15:53.37 | Elive_user31 | hello |
| 15:53.52 | keyra | Elive_user31: hi |
| 15:54.20 | Elive_user31 | speak french? |
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| 16:15.52 | bagolight | ii |
| 16:17.11 | bagolight | Buon pomeriggio a tutti |
| 16:17.32 | bagolight | dura vita |
| 16:21.02 | bagolight | i go to eat, good afternoon at all |
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| 17:09.42 | Elive_user24 | how can i add/remove icons on desktop |
| 17:12.59 | svalovic | no way on desktop |
| 17:13.13 | svalovic | only on ibar |
| 17:13.20 | svalovic | as i know |
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| 17:13.43 | Elive_user48 | Hello everybody |
| 17:13.53 | Elive_user24 | ok, how can i on ibar |
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| 17:16.55 | trog | how can you what ? :) |
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| 17:17.16 | trog | add... |
| 17:17.25 | bech | I like brasero now :) |
| 17:17.51 | trog | well, in the e17 version shipped by default with elive, you cand add icons on the desktop. For the ibar, there should be a configuration dialog in elpanel or the main configuration dialog |
| 17:18.43 | svalovic | or you can run your app, leftclick icon of the app at the upper left (or right) corner and drop it on ibar |
| 17:20.59 | Elive_user24 | ok, thanks lemme try tht |
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| 17:37.48 | ElemonGW | And finally, I have decided that until elive will use the newest e17 version, I will not use it as my main distro |
| 17:37.57 | ElemonGW | I hope that this will hapen soon |
| 17:41.58 | trog | you can install it from the tests repo... |
| 17:42.07 | trog | seems pretty stable to me, not to mention the capabilities |
| 17:42.12 | keyra | trog: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 17:42.38 | trog | ElemonGW: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2542248901783498051&hl=en (there is a link to the video in 1024x768 format...much better, and more videos) |
| 17:43.58 | ElemonGW | trog, when I install it from the test repo |
| 17:44.04 | ElemonGW | all the configuration is wipped |
| 17:44.12 | trog | indeed |
| 17:44.17 | ElemonGW | and the app[lication menu is gone |
| 17:44.25 | trog | but its years ahead of what comes default with elive |
| 17:44.28 | ElemonGW | at least that happened to me |
| 17:44.32 | trog | the app menu is not gone...it gets filled |
| 17:44.35 | trog | check the video |
| 17:44.59 | trog | you have to fine tune it, i admit, but you'll have ALOT more control |
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| 17:47.01 | trog | if you have time/bandwidth to download a few mb, check http://people.decebal.org/~trog/Videos/ |
| 17:47.18 | trog | there you'll see the same thing in 1024x768 quality ...you'll really see what i'm talking about |
| 17:47.36 | ElemonGW | just watched th video |
| 17:47.42 | ElemonGW | yes i know that it is great |
| 17:47.53 | ElemonGW | what i don't know is how to tune it |
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| 17:48.13 | trog | check "e17-0.16.999.040-shelves.ogg" from the site |
| 17:48.14 | ElemonGW | so that the appplications menu will appear |
| 17:48.17 | trog | its all you need for configuration |
| 17:48.38 | ElemonGW | btw., i am wondering why elive doesn't come with it by default |
| 17:48.39 | FreeEagle | Hi all |
| 17:48.43 | trog | the app menu, is still there ...watch the videos from the site...you'll have access to TONS of applications |
| 17:48.45 | trog | hi FreeEagle |
| 17:48.56 | FreeEagle | I have a question .... does anyone know , how can i make VLC work on ELibe |
| 17:48.57 | FreeEagle | Elive |
| 17:49.08 | trog | FreeEagle: have you installed it ? |
| 17:49.10 | FreeEagle | I need it to watch Stream TV |
| 17:49.22 | trog | mplayer does stream from what i know |
| 17:49.23 | FreeEagle | yes i installed it and then removed it |
| 17:49.27 | FreeEagle | it crashes |
| 17:49.39 | trog | indeed it does... |
| 17:49.39 | FreeEagle | or it gives me sometimes no Picture |
| 17:49.42 | trog | try mplayer ;) |
| 17:49.45 | trog | its THE player |
| 17:49.54 | FreeEagle | it behaves wierd |
| 17:50.13 | FreeEagle | Mplay does not do that |
| 17:50.21 | trog | "open url" ? |
| 17:50.38 | FreeEagle | We have here TV Channels which we can watch through VLC ( Over VPN ) |
| 17:51.09 | FreeEagle | there is somthing in VLC called SAP announcement |
| 17:51.26 | trog | oh... |
| 17:51.33 | trog | well, i havent played with this, sorry, cant help |
| 17:51.33 | FreeEagle | if you activated it then you can watch through the internal Network of the Uni TV |
| 17:52.11 | trog | have you tried it with mplayer ? i dont know whats going on in your uni, but if there's some url, mplayer should be able to handle it |
| 17:52.26 | FreeEagle | no it can't |
| 17:52.31 | FreeEagle | i tried that |
| 17:52.35 | trog | i see |
| 17:52.36 | trog | xine ? |
| 17:53.18 | FreeEagle | all what you said does not support this |
| 17:53.21 | FreeEagle | Just VLC |
| 17:53.36 | trog | you installed it from the debian repos ? |
| 17:53.40 | FreeEagle | and i think VLC does not work under Entlightemnet Desktop |
| 17:53.44 | FreeEagle | yes |
| 17:53.45 | trog | sure it does |
| 17:53.58 | trog | there is a bug (or at least there was) with the full screen stuff |
| 17:54.12 | ElemonGW | just change wthe video output |
| 17:54.24 | FreeEagle | to what should i change it ? |
| 17:54.24 | ElemonGW | i belive that it will be fixed that way |
| 17:54.41 | ElemonGW | play with the available options and keep the one which works for you |
| 17:55.26 | FreeEagle | but what makes you think that it will work |
| 17:55.36 | trog | experience ;) |
| 17:55.37 | FreeEagle | I mean what are the logic behind that |
| 17:56.03 | trog | not every output is the same. there is a strong possibility you'll hit the right one |
| 17:56.31 | FreeEagle | humm |
| 17:56.41 | FreeEagle | i will give it a try |
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| 17:56.58 | trog | FreeEagle: good luck :) |
| 17:57.03 | FreeEagle | Thanks alot |
| 17:57.09 | FreeEagle | Another question |
| 17:57.31 | FreeEagle | Does anyone know it Open VPN works well under Elive? |
| 17:58.17 | trog | it does. elive is basically a customized (mostly in terms of window manager, graphical libraries and multimedia apps) debian. its still debian under the hood |
| 17:58.52 | ElemonGW | trog, the video you told me doesn't show how to fix my problem |
| 17:59.10 | ElemonGW | i know that e17 can be customized |
| 17:59.11 | ElemonGW | ;) |
| 17:59.21 | ElemonGW | which is what that video shows |
| 17:59.23 | trog | ElemonGW: are you scared of the customization ? |
| 17:59.33 | ElemonGW | not at all |
| 17:59.46 | ElemonGW | the problem is that at the right click menu |
| 17:59.49 | ElemonGW | or left anyway |
| 18:00.12 | ElemonGW | there is nothing located under the menu applications |
| 18:00.16 | trog | the menu is differently organized...but you'll find all your applications (among others) |
| 18:00.20 | ElemonGW | they haven't been removed |
| 18:00.31 | ElemonGW | but there are none there |
| 18:00.32 | FreeEagle | trog, can you give me the same link of the Video that ElemonGW talking about |
| 18:01.01 | trog | FreeEagle: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2542248901783498051&hl=en (and on http://people.decebal.org/~trog/Videos you'll find the high resolution ones) |
| 18:01.19 | ElemonGW | trog, wheere will i find them? |
| 18:01.21 | trog | ElemonGW: shouldnt happen ...when did you encounter this problem ? |
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| 18:01.32 | trog | in the "Application/Apps" menu |
| 18:01.32 | ElemonGW | just after upgrading |
| 18:01.39 | ElemonGW | with the test repo |
| 18:01.54 | keyra | ElemonGW: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 18:01.56 | trog | ElemonGW: sure...this is what i'm talkin about. it works, trust me |
| 18:02.12 | trog | you can always switch back if you want |
| 18:02.13 | ElemonGW | but it didn't worked |
| 18:02.18 | trog | now it does |
| 18:02.24 | ElemonGW | when now |
| 18:02.40 | trog | since 6 august at least |
| 18:02.45 | ElemonGW | i tried it just today |
| 18:02.53 | ElemonGW | and didn't worked |
| 18:02.55 | Limericist | some reason my terminal settings aren't stricking even after changing them in elpanel - I also tried adjusting the Xdefault file in /home |
| 18:03.01 | ElemonGW | nothing under applications menu |
| 18:03.25 | trog | ElemonGW: how did you upgrade ? |
| 18:03.47 | ElemonGW | from the tests repo |
| 18:03.53 | Limericist | my terminal keeps reverting to a small ant-size font, and lost the black background |
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| 18:05.17 | trog | dist-upgrade ? have you upgraded just the e17 package ? .... |
| 18:05.51 | ElemonGW | apt-get upgrade |
| 18:05.57 | ElemonGW | that's what i runned |
| 18:06.04 | ElemonGW | after enabling the test repo |
| 18:06.17 | trog | try a dist-upgrade |
| 18:06.24 | ElemonGW | i also uninstalled before entrance because it was causing errors during upgrade |
| 18:06.28 | FreeEagle | thanks all |
| 18:06.30 | FreeEagle | bye bye |
| 18:06.33 | ElemonGW | and then i re-installed it |
| 18:06.33 | FreeEagle | and take care |
| 18:06.33 | trog | bye FreeEagle |
| 18:06.35 | FreeEagle | see you |
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| 18:06.56 | trog | ElemonGW: did it upgrade the e17 (& efl-all, ...) ? the latest version is cvs20070809 |
| 18:06.56 | ElemonGW | well i don't think that dist-upgrade will do the job |
| 18:07.03 | ElemonGW | it just doesn't make any point |
| 18:07.10 | ElemonGW | yes |
| 18:07.13 | ElemonGW | anywaqy |
| 18:07.15 | ElemonGW | i might try it |
| 18:07.21 | ElemonGW | after i come back |
| 18:07.36 | ElemonGW | what is that? |
| 18:07.46 | trog | a screenshot ... |
| 18:08.15 | trog | i did ~10 upgrades to my friends, it always worked |
| 18:08.47 | ElemonGW | i don't know |
| 18:08.55 | ElemonGW | i will try it after |
| 18:09.42 | Limericist | any ideas why my terminal is not allowing me to edit the font size? the terminal program is urxvt, and elpanel has a resizer, but it is not having an effect, why? |
| 18:10.04 | ElemonGW | it seems that you have done lots of configuration changes @ your e17 installation ;) |
| 18:10.08 | trog | elpanel changes the settings for Eterm i think |
| 18:10.12 | trog | urxvt is another story.... |
| 18:10.25 | trog | but you can manually set it (the settings for urxvt) from the command line |
| 18:10.40 | trog | edit the eap, and make it run with the needed options... |
| 18:10.42 | ElemonGW | btw., i was talking to trog :)) |
| 18:10.49 | Chi11y | hello people! :) |
| 18:11.03 | keyra | Chi11y: hi |
| 18:11.03 | ElemonGW | hi mate |
| 18:11.28 | trog | ElemonGW: nothing that takes more than 10 minutes, including some minor customization to the theme (there are some problems with the border setting, e17 doesent remember it, so i modified the theme a bit) |
| 18:11.42 | keyra | trog: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 18:11.43 | trog | hi Chi11y |
| 18:11.55 | trog | keyra: shut up, you're using kde ... |
| 18:12.02 | ElemonGW | lol |
| 18:12.09 | keyra | trog: :-# |
| 18:12.36 | Limericist | trog, elive gem uses uxrvt as the default terminal, elpanel changes that |
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| 18:12.51 | trog | ups....didnt noticed :D i'm still on 0.6.9 |
| 18:12.56 | Limericist | eterm is not even loaded in gem |
| 18:13.04 | trog | silly me :D |
| 18:13.11 | ElemonGW | lo |
| 18:13.13 | ElemonGW | lol |
| 18:13.25 | ElemonGW | then there is a problem of gem |
| 18:13.45 | trog | i use urxvt also ...far better than xterm & Eterm IMHO |
| 18:13.59 | Limericist | sorry, eterm is loaded too |
| 18:13.59 | ruudkuin | hey everyone how have you all been lately? mathmanp have you been able to find a job? |
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| 18:14.23 | ElemonGW | btw., trog, the default installation of the latest e17 version is really different comparing to the one from your screenshot |
| 18:14.43 | trog | ElemonGW: yea, i know, but its a matter of minutes until you can set it up like mine... |
| 18:14.57 | trog | add 5 more shelfs, enable some modules, and add them to the shelfs |
| 18:15.06 | trog | change the theme, and optionally, add apps to ibar |
| 18:15.16 | ElemonGW | i don't say the opposite.... ;) |
| 18:15.20 | trog | :) |
| 18:15.25 | trog | its worth the effort |
| 18:15.42 | ElemonGW | "effort" better ;) |
| 18:16.04 | ruudkuin | trog, what's the difference between engage and iBar anyway? |
| 18:16.24 | ruudkuin | i can setup both in engage... |
| 18:16.36 | ElemonGW | bb everybody |
| 18:17.19 | ruudkuin | ElemonGW, bye |
| 18:17.19 | trog | engage looks better. it also had a systray (last time i checked). but ibar is a module, so its better integrated |
| 18:17.27 | ruudkuin | iBar is the one on the bottom, taskbar? |
| 18:17.32 | trog | i find ibar better, each theme defines its own look, and you can configure it easyer i think |
| 18:17.41 | trog | ruudkuin: or top...or left/right ;) |
| 18:17.45 | Chi11y | iBar is the dock |
| 18:17.48 | ruudkuin | lol |
| 18:17.50 | Chi11y | iBox is the "taskbar" |
| 18:18.02 | ruudkuin | Chilly, thx |
| 18:18.13 | Chi11y | it's kinda confusing :P |
| 18:18.29 | ruudkuin | I think it is, especially in engage... |
| 18:19.56 | ruudkuin | trog, Chi11y, anyway to add a volumebutton to switch off sound easier than alsa mixer? |
| 18:20.35 | trog | ruudkuin: if you wanna play, add 2 hotkeys (like F11 and F12) ...for muting/unmuting |
| 18:20.49 | keyra | trog: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 18:20.55 | trog | F12 takes a screenshot in my setup |
| 18:21.44 | ruudkuin | trog, I just want to lower sound whenever the kids sleep for instance... No muting needed?!? |
| 18:22.51 | trog | i thought you said "switch off" ;) my mistake ;) ....well, in the tests version of 17, there is a mixer module. in the default e17 version, ...i think (not 100% sure) that alsamixer is the easyest way |
| 18:23.15 | trog | well, you could make F11 lower (not mute) the sound, and F12 to increase it |
| 18:23.34 | ruudkuin | trog, okay I'll take a look at your link! Thx |
| 18:24.03 | trog | you could also check "alsamixer --help" in a terminal ...see what options it gives you |
| 18:24.27 | ruudkuin | Thx I'll look at that too! |
| 18:24.54 | trog | if alsamixer doesent do the job (no command line parameters), amixer should do it |
| 18:25.57 | ruudkuin | amixer is to be downloaded and installed or is it pre-installed? |
| 18:26.32 | trog | preinstalled |
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| 18:28.12 | Elive_user93 | hi all! i've reintalled winzoz.... now. how can i repair my grub? thanks!!!!:) |
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| 18:32.04 | LinuxNIT-II | grub-install /dev/hda |
| 18:32.13 | LinuxNIT-II | from the livecd |
| 18:32.18 | LinuxNIT-II | which you are in :) |
| 18:32.25 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user93, ^^ |
| 18:32.59 | Elive_user93 | :D |
| 18:33.02 | Elive_user93 | eheheh |
| 18:33.05 | Elive_user93 | thanks |
| 18:33.07 | Elive_user93 | but: |
| 18:33.18 | Elive_user93 | Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. |
| 18:33.30 | Elive_user93 | i'm in live ;) |
| 18:33.39 | LinuxNIT-II | what does fdisk -l show |
| 18:34.26 | Elive_user93 | hda hdb & hdc |
| 18:34.43 | Elive_user93 | hda1 = winzoz |
| 18:34.47 | Elive_user93 | hda2 = linux |
| 18:35.58 | ruudkuin | trog, I've installed volume, an app specially designed for this use... Or even for ME? ;] |
| 18:36.07 | trog | ruudkuin: congrats :D |
| 18:36.16 | ruudkuin | thx again |
| 18:36.38 | trog | thank yourself ;) ....anytime |
| 18:36.55 | LinuxNIT-II | grub-install /dev/hda should do it |
| 18:36.58 | LinuxNIT-II | i gtg to work sorry |
| 18:37.34 | Elive_user93 | ok thanks ;) |
| 18:52.53 | roxville | i made a nicer gizmo icon http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/gizmo-icon.png |
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| 19:10.12 | NathanExplosion | welcome bryanstein |
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| 19:15.12 | anquietas | Greetings Bryanstein. |
| 19:16.45 | Bryanstein | hey guys |
| 19:17.24 | Bryanstein | anyone seen a guy running around here with real Jewish sounding names |
| 19:17.25 | anquietas | Hey NathanExplosion ^^ |
| 19:17.37 | Bryanstein | with an ip address in ny? |
| 19:17.42 | anquietas | o.O |
| 19:17.47 | Chi11y | o.O |
| 19:17.48 | Theoden | Bryanstein ! |
| 19:18.10 | Bryanstein | Theo...you seen The Cosby Show? |
| 19:19.03 | Bryanstein | is the channel still slow |
| 19:19.11 | Theoden | Not today. |
| 19:19.13 | Bryanstein | anquietas, you ever get that amule |
| 19:19.18 | Bryanstein | going |
| 19:19.21 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 19:19.24 | Bryanstein | Your name always reminds me of Bill Cosby...Theooo my boy |
| 19:19.30 | anquietas | My local IP changed strangely... |
| 19:19.31 | Theoden | lol |
| 19:20.00 | Theoden | Reminds me of king Theoden of Rohan when ie was a lad ... "Hey theo - let's go kill some orcs." |
| 19:20.01 | Bryanstein | you take the e17 and jello pudding pop and the rizzum frazzum sizzum |
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| 19:20.27 | Bryanstein | Dooooopppp |
| 19:20.35 | Bryanstein | anquietas, did you have a static ip ? |
| 19:21.39 | anquietas | I did. |
| 19:21.58 | anquietas | But now it changed, ... It must have something to do with my computer having caught fire - |
| 19:22.02 | anquietas | Hehe |
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| 19:51.51 | anquietas | Heh ... |
| 19:52.53 | anquietas | Yes - This really sucks. I am going through the content of the coming biology class... there's hardly stuff in it that hasn't been known several decades ago... it's like as if no one had done any research in the past 30 years. |
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| 20:31.42 | anquietas | Greetings. |
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| 20:33.44 | wasynyt | how are you doing |
| 20:33.54 | Begasus | howdy |
| 20:35.18 | anquietas | Fine, and you? |
| 20:35.30 | wasynyt | doin great |
| 20:36.03 | anquietas | That's good. |
| 20:36.29 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 20:40.17 | Elive_user99 | hi |
| 20:40.33 | Elive_user99 | I have both an E16 and E17 problem |
| 20:40.44 | Elive_user99 | I am running eLive 1.0 Gem |
| 20:40.48 | keyra | Elive_user99: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 20:41.02 | Elive_user99 | oh |
| 20:41.02 | Elive_user99 | okay |
| 20:41.11 | anquietas | Hehe, keyra is a bot. Ignore it. |
| 20:41.17 | Elive_user99 | lol |
| 20:41.25 | keyra | anquietas: you think so ? |
| 20:41.27 | anquietas | And ... don't say "You think so_", keyra! |
| 20:41.37 | anquietas | Noho =( |
| 20:41.38 | Elive_user99 | well in E16 its kinda dumb |
| 20:41.41 | keyra | anquietas: hi :) |
| 20:41.46 | anquietas | >.< |
| 20:41.54 | anquietas | Elive_user99, what's your problem? |
| 20:41.54 | Elive_user99 | I can't figure out how to get that task thing back |
| 20:42.40 | Elive_user99 | it shows the minimized windows as screenshots of the windows. I accidentally closed and can't find where to et it back |
| 20:42.43 | Elive_user99 | this is E16 |
| 20:43.18 | anquietas | Uhm... |
| 20:43.27 | anquietas | It has always done it this way on my machine? |
| 20:43.44 | Elive_user99 | And I don't think its Engage |
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| 20:45.01 | anquietas | Hm, sorry, I can't help you. |
| 20:45.10 | Elive_user99 | its pretty annoying because I can't minimize programs easily. well I can but I'd have to go into a different menu to get the windows back instead of using the task bar think that was there by default. |
| 20:45.10 | anquietas | wasynyt, ... can you ? |
| 20:45.17 | anquietas | Begasus... :P |
| 20:45.53 | Elive_user99 | I had to resort to E16 becuase E17 won't even start anymore |
| 20:46.15 | Begasus | hi anquietas ;) |
| 20:46.31 | Elive_user99 | it shows that white box with text in it saying something bad happened. I'd get the exact text however I'd eventually have to do a system reboot. |
| 20:46.45 | Elive_user99 | it says press F1 F2 or F3 |
| 20:46.51 | Elive_user99 | its really weird |
| 20:46.53 | Begasus | never had that here ... |
| 20:47.18 | Elive_user99 | I really don't wanna quit eLive |
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| 20:48.33 | wasynyt | apt elive-skel |
| 20:48.34 | apt | [elive-skel] for use elive-skel type "elive-skel upgrade" for upgrade your configuration files, for upgrade the conf of e17 select ".e" or for xmms select ".xmms", all from a list, if you have created a new user, try "elive-skel user blah" for parse the good configurations for the user, or http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 20:48.48 | keyra | wasynyt: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System |
| 20:49.04 | wasynyt | and offcourse dpkg reconfigure app |
| 20:49.36 | Elive_user99 | does enlightenment have to be running? |
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| 20:50.23 | wasynyt | yup |
| 20:50.42 | Elive_user99 | I can't even get it started |
| 20:50.54 | Elive_user99 | the error shows up as soon as I log in. |
| 20:54.43 | Elive_user99 | brb |
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| 20:56.50 | Elive_user99 | it won't do anything |
| 20:57.32 | Elive_user99 | bbl |
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| 21:01.07 | Elive_user46 | okay I figured out my E16 problem. |
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| 21:05.14 | ElemonGW | roxville, as i told you, it wasn't fixed that way |
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| 21:18.11 | ElemonGW | anybody having any idea why after upgrading e17 to the version available at elive's test repo |
| 21:18.26 | keyra | ElemonGW: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 21:18.30 | ElemonGW | nothing is shown under the menu applications |
| 21:18.39 | wasynyt | because it is the testing |
| 21:18.41 | ElemonGW | even if they still exist |
| 21:18.50 | ElemonGW | so |
| 21:18.51 | ElemonGW | ??? |
| 21:19.16 | ElemonGW | why the applications that are installed do not show up at that menu? |
| 21:19.34 | wasynyt | testing is not compatible or tested with the "older" elive e17, as elives old version is tested and configured |
| 21:20.02 | wasynyt | you have to remember that there are some heavy differences between different e17 versions because |
| 21:20.05 | wasynyt | apt e17 |
| 21:20.06 | apt | well, e17 is IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16 |
| 21:20.21 | keyra | apt: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 21:20.22 | apt | ...but e17 is already something else... |
| 21:20.36 | keyra | apt: do it! |
| 21:20.37 | apt | ACTION does it!. |
| 21:20.43 | ElemonGW | lol |
| 21:20.46 | ElemonGW | funny bots |
| 21:20.48 | ElemonGW | anyway |
| 21:21.06 | wasynyt | the reason -> they are different |
| 21:22.13 | ElemonGW | yes, i can understand that |
| 21:22.23 | Begasus | going down .. g'night peeps |
| 21:22.24 | ElemonGW | but 1. then why they exist at the repo |
| 21:22.29 | anquietas | Night, Begasus |
| 21:22.30 | ElemonGW | if they don't work at all |
| 21:22.39 | ElemonGW | and 2. roxville told |
| 21:22.46 | ElemonGW | that it worked for him |
| 21:22.51 | wasynyt | keyra, testing |
| 21:23.06 | keyra | wasynyt: test ? o_O what are you thinking' ? |
| 21:23.08 | wasynyt | keyra, test |
| 21:24.11 | wasynyt | ElemonGW, software does not allway work as it is supposed to, -> bugs and unwanted features. the version in elive testing is only meant for testing and it can brake your system |
| 21:29.37 | ElemonGW | but e16 is not nice |
| 21:29.38 | ElemonGW | :( |
| 21:29.46 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:29.51 | wasynyt | well that is the trick |
| 21:30.01 | wasynyt | you sould use the older more stable e17 |
| 21:30.07 | ElemonGW | not only in the part of nice looking |
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| 21:30.12 | ElemonGW | but also in usability |
| 21:30.28 | ElemonGW | apparently yes ;) |
| 21:30.43 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:30.59 | ElemonGW | but it has lots of issues too :( |
| 21:31.16 | ElemonGW | ugly window borders at certain applications |
| 21:31.34 | wasynyt | yeah, but it "works" |
| 21:32.37 | ElemonGW | well, not really..... |
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| 21:34.57 | wasynyt | e17 not is prepaired for the end-user |
| 21:35.04 | wasynyt | so.. |
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| 21:35.42 | ElemonGW | i know, but the latest versions seem to be ready, as they have no bugs and they are great |
| 21:36.03 | ElemonGW | so it makes me curious why elive has a one year old build |
| 21:36.05 | ElemonGW | of e17 |
| 21:36.26 | ElemonGW | if it only had the newest one.... |
| 21:36.55 | wasynyt | well that is a question you need to ask thana.. as he is the one making the decissions |
| 21:37.15 | wasynyt | and if he prefers older e17, that is what we are going to get |
| 21:37.38 | ElemonGW | ...who is never here @ irc :( |
| 21:38.51 | wasynyt | you should point you eyes at #elivemac |
| 21:38.56 | wasynyt | *your |
| 21:39.03 | wasynyt | and his is here at times |
| 21:39.04 | NicNac | how good are matrox video cards under linux? |
| 21:39.14 | ElemonGW | ;) |
| 21:39.37 | wasynyt | i think they work.. but as expensive i would consider something based nvidia.. |
| 21:40.05 | bouba_ | hi wasynyt. do you know how to repair grub? grub-install /dev/hda doesn't works... |
| 21:40.07 | wasynyt | they sell around 50 - 100 euro and do 3d a |
| 21:40.49 | NicNac | I've just seen this you see: |
| 21:40.50 | NicNac | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Matrox-G450-MMS-128MB-Quad-Display-PCI-Video-Card_W0QQitemZ250153642728QQihZ015QQcategoryZ3762QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 21:41.00 | NicNac | four monitors hmm tasty |
| 21:41.45 | anquietas | Hm. |
| 21:41.51 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 21:42.10 | NicNac | think its worth it? |
| 21:42.17 | anquietas | What's the card capable of besides ... the plugs? |
| 21:42.37 | wasynyt | NicNac, why dont plug 6 pci graphic cards on your pc and load them in xorg.conf, give them screens and you have 12 + 2 (the agp) screens |
| 21:44.28 | NicNac | how easy would that be to setup? |
| 21:44.54 | anquietas | Heh, wasynyt ... that works?! |
| 21:46.19 | NicNac | I hope so |
| 21:46.42 | wasynyt | hmm in theory that should, if all the drivers get loaded and and xorg.conf made for it |
| 21:46.58 | wasynyt | and if the pci bus bandwith is enough to feed all cards |
| 21:47.15 | wasynyt | and no it is not that hard |
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| 21:51.04 | wasynyt | http://pastebin.com/m28869453 <- non working but it is a rough example |
| 21:51.21 | wasynyt | and that should work, when edited correctly |
| 21:56.16 | wasynyt | given that nvidia driver could handle that many devices and that all devices are found |
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| 21:59.06 | wasynyt | and the monitor/screen map can be made so that all those screens form a square, only problem is that this system is not able to use it as one big screen, unless some spefic software would be used that would load correct images at correct places |
| 21:59.31 | wasynyt | plus that kind of setup would consume huge ammount of memory and cpu time |
| 22:01.12 | NicNac | well I gotta run catch ya laters |
| 22:02.51 | amigamia | does the new elive do auto detect of wireless adapters and auto config with the live cd? |
| 22:03.06 | keyra | amigamia: thanks... bot :) |
| 22:03.36 | amigamia | umm keyra? |
| 22:03.41 | wasynyt | it should see them, but it wont auto config them.. you need to do a little hand work (gui tool in elpanel) |
| 22:03.46 | wasynyt | keyra bot |
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| 22:04.00 | keyra | wasynyt: bot |
| 22:04.03 | amigamia | ahh ok so if i get wasynyt the new elive it will be probbale? |
| 22:04.07 | amigamia | probable? |
| 22:04.18 | amigamia | more like possible |
| 22:04.20 | amigamia | right? |
| 22:05.46 | Bryanstein | hmmm |
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| 22:06.02 | Bryanstein | amigamia, you trying to do wireless with Elive? |
| 22:06.17 | amigamia | yes byranstein |
| 22:06.22 | amigamia | i have 2 options. |
| 22:06.29 | amigamia | 1. usb netgear thingy |
| 22:06.35 | amigamia | 2. broadcomm wireless pci adapter |
| 22:06.40 | amigamia | neither work for nothing ;( |
| 22:06.42 | amigamia | grr |
| 22:06.47 | amigamia | linux that is |
| 22:06.59 | amigamia | i tried maybe 30 different distros and no such luck with any |
| 22:07.05 | amigamia | brb telefon |
| 22:07.06 | Bryanstein | huh |
| 22:07.08 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 22:07.27 | Bryanstein | amigamia, you obviously didn't use ndiswrapper |
| 22:07.41 | keyra | Bryanstein: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Ndiswrapper |
| 22:08.19 | untruestory | hey how do I check that the iso image I burned to disk came out okay? |
| 22:08.48 | untruestory | can I md5sum the disc? |
| 22:08.58 | wasynyt | apt gem md5 |
| 22:10.35 | wasynyt | <apt> i guess gem-md5 is '7e362c3426d89bfdd0e4832d7115e8d9 Elive_1.0_Gem.iso' |
| 22:10.57 | wasynyt | *browsing |
| 22:11.01 | untruestory | thanks :) |
| 22:11.24 | amigamia | well bryanstein i just want to put the key in the car and go. i dont want to do all this other things. i just want to go go go. brb telefon. |
| 22:11.26 | untruestory | can I check the disc after burning tho? |
| 22:11.42 | NicNac | elive itself can check the disk cant it? |
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| 22:11.54 | wasynyt | hmm i think it should at least |
| 22:12.00 | Bryanstein | well let the disk check itself on the install option |
| 22:12.14 | Bryanstein | yes just as NicNac said |
| 22:12.42 | untruestory | ahh |
| 22:12.45 | untruestory | thanks |
| 22:12.53 | Bryanstein | click the harddrive icon and it will say check disk...not sure if there is an install option to check disk from grub |
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| 22:13.39 | wasynyt | i think there is none in grub, but you can check your memory from it |
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| 22:14.36 | Bryanstein | amigamia, you have to install drivers in windows even...not many wireless cards work out of the box |
| 22:15.12 | Bryanstein | if you want to walk around the house with the laptop then you'll setup your card lol |
| 22:15.27 | Bryanstein | or else be stuck dragging around a ethernet cable |
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| 22:16.35 | wasynyt | and have you checed if there elpanels networking tool detects your card ? if it does all you need is to activate it and give it correct info about your network |
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| 22:23.30 | amigamia | well bryanstein it seems to me it should be setup automatically and all i have to do is sit back and press the gas pedal |
| 22:23.43 | amigamia | and go go go |
| 22:23.54 | Bryanstein | lol not in linux |
| 22:24.01 | Bryanstein | too many chipsets |
| 22:24.11 | Bryanstein | and the manufacturers don't help out |
| 22:24.14 | Bryanstein | soooo |
| 22:24.30 | Bryanstein | everything is engineered to work from scratch |
| 22:24.33 | zdh | wireless in linux is kinda hard to setup like ati graphic cards :p |
| 22:24.35 | NathanExplosion | ring ring ring Bah-nana phone |
| 22:24.38 | zdh | they never seem to work |
| 22:24.50 | NicNac | I resent that my beloved 9600pro works ok |
| 22:24.57 | NicNac | :P |
| 22:24.59 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 22:25.02 | Bryanstein | NathanExplosion, LOL |
| 22:25.07 | zdh | running wine + a game ? :P |
| 22:25.17 | Bryanstein | amigamia, what cards do you have ...model numbers? |
| 22:25.28 | NicNac | I have a console for playing games |
| 22:26.00 | amigamia | i hae a wireless pci adapter mn-730 and a netgear usb thingy |
| 22:26.16 | amigamia | i am in a hotel and i dont have my laptop accessible and i am using a desktop at the moment. |
| 22:26.31 | amigamia | so my options are limited, mind you it seems with laptops linux is ok. |
| 22:26.32 | Bryanstein | ok so you are running live ? |
| 22:26.48 | Bryanstein | hotel with your husband? |
| 22:26.49 | amigamia | i am live yes, but running? no i am sitting right now. |
| 22:26.51 | amigamia | no |
| 22:26.55 | amigamia | no |
| 22:27.00 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 22:27.02 | Bryanstein | ok |
| 22:27.02 | amigamia | husband |
| 22:27.03 | amigamia | lol |
| 22:27.03 | amigamia | no |
| 22:27.07 | KsRyno | hi all |
| 22:27.09 | amigamia | |NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNo |
| 22:27.11 | amigamia | no |
| 22:27.13 | amigamia | umm |
| 22:27.17 | Bryanstein | well we don't get females in here often |
| 22:27.19 | Bryanstein | anyway |
| 22:27.22 | amigamia | sure you do |
| 22:27.29 | amigamia | i know of 3 in here i met before. |
| 22:27.33 | Bryanstein | you need to dl ndiswrapper |
| 22:27.38 | Bryanstein | well I don't know them |
| 22:27.43 | Bryanstein | keyra, doesn't count |
| 22:27.47 | keyra | Bryanstein: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Ndiswrapper |
| 22:27.56 | NicNac | I only dress up as a woman at the weekend :P |
| 22:27.57 | Bryanstein | follow that link amigamia |
| 22:28.12 | Bryanstein | lol NicNac I borrow your dress from mon - fri |
| 22:28.21 | NicNac | right on :P |
| 22:28.50 | NathanExplosion | totatally metal |
| 22:29.12 | Bryanstein | amigamia, did you see it ? |
| 22:29.21 | amigamia | well your a very nasty man if you go about doing things like that |
| 22:29.29 | Bryanstein | and...you need those windows driverts |
| 22:29.31 | amigamia | not yet i just ordered something to eat and i had to fix it up |
| 22:29.33 | amigamia | brb |
| 22:30.10 | Bryanstein | well dressing up like a woman is good for your calves...heels get you in shape |
| 22:30.25 | Bryanstein | in a hotel on a desktop |
| 22:30.42 | Bryanstein | lol amigamia you pack your tower in your case with you ? |
| 22:30.52 | Bryanstein | hahahaha |
| 22:30.59 | Bryanstein | lol @ of steel |
| 22:32.01 | amigamia | no no |
| 22:32.07 | amigamia | your not understanding |
| 22:32.24 | Bryanstein | ok tell me again please |
| 22:32.34 | amigamia | hey is that all i need? but the problem is how can i apt-get if i cannot get online? |
| 22:33.15 | zdh | hmm, got a usb stick? |
| 22:33.16 | Bryanstein | well that is a good question...no ethernet cable ?? or you can transfer the files to a cd or usb drive |
| 22:33.31 | Bryanstein | you must be in town somewhere for a conference or something...if you are running away can I run away with you? I'll bring sandwiches |
| 22:35.11 | amigamia | yes i have a usb stick i have 2 |
| 22:35.30 | amigamia | what kind of sandwiches? |
| 22:35.47 | zdh | i make chicken sandwiches with ham and sausage |
| 22:35.50 | Bryanstein | with rye bread and romaine lettuce...turkey |
| 22:35.53 | amigamia | umm |
| 22:35.59 | amigamia | both sound good |
| 22:36.05 | amigamia | brb |
| 22:36.09 | Bryanstein | mine has no preserves |
| 22:36.57 | Bryanstein | preservatives... zdh you trying to steal my run away ticket? |
| 22:36.59 | amigamia | umm i have never had without preserves |
| 22:37.06 | amigamia | brb must reboot |
| 22:37.22 | zdh | Bryanstein, nah im just bored, and it made me hungry :< |
| 22:37.41 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 22:38.20 | zdh | ^^ |
| 22:38.21 | anquietas | Karma karma karma chameleon... >.< God, that's an old song |
| 22:38.58 | NicNac | lol |
| 22:39.05 | zdh | :p |
| 22:39.14 | Bryanstein | lol I still like that song anquietas , but I thought it said come ma come ma come ma |
| 22:39.24 | anquietas | Me too, Bryanstein. |
| 22:39.39 | anquietas | Ahm, no... as far as I know... |
| 22:39.52 | anquietas | It says "karma chameleon". |
| 22:40.03 | anquietas | But this doesn't make much sense, ... |
| 22:40.18 | anquietas | Hell, but that's the title! |
| 22:40.28 | anquietas | >.< |
| 22:40.43 | wasynyt | hmm good night people |
| 22:40.55 | anquietas | Nighty night wasynyt |
| 22:41.16 | Bryanstein | gnight wasynyt |
| 22:41.19 | Limericist | hi Bryanstein, I have a problem with my terminal not changing from the tool in elpanel - I also tried editing the Xdefault file in ~/home, but nothing gets a hold of it to change it |
| 22:41.33 | keyra | Limericist: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 22:41.55 | Limericist | I love you too Keyra |
| 22:42.28 | Bryanstein | what do you mean the size of it ? |
| 22:42.31 | Bryanstein | the text |
| 22:42.39 | Limericist | the font, the color |
| 22:42.55 | Bryanstein | well if you restart E it will |
| 22:42.58 | Limericist | the term is uxrvt |
| 22:43.23 | Limericist | I restarted E, that didnt help |
| 22:44.02 | Limericist | urxvt rather |
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| 22:44.44 | Bryanstein | restart E I believe...it might work after you open another terminal but just restart E and see |
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| 22:45.05 | Limericist | I did that already - several time, and rebooted too |
| 22:45.12 | Spami | Hi |
| 22:46.27 | Bryanstein | lol he left |
| 22:47.14 | roxville | http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php?content=64480 |
| 22:47.36 | roxville | http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/Elive+Platinum-Gold?content=64477 |
| 22:47.57 | roxville | http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/Elive+Logo+Gold+650px+wide?content=64464 |
| 22:59.05 | Bryanstein | hey Spami |
| 22:59.17 | Spami | :) |
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| 23:01.23 | KsRyno | does anybody know how to get a memory card reader to work in elive? |
| 23:03.40 | roxville | KsRyno, i just put the memory card in and it shows up in thunar |
| 23:03.49 | KsRyno | hmm |
| 23:04.31 | KsRyno | mine totally freezes for 5-10 seconds and i get nothing |
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| 23:14.19 | anquietas | Hm. |
| 23:14.38 | anquietas | And I am leaving. Good night people. |
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