| 00:00.15 | ogrosticlops | wow, you typed that before I had the response. |
| 00:00.21 | zdh | magazine's isnt the same thing as a big computer monitor |
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| 00:00.31 | ogrosticlops | atta boy |
| 00:00.33 | garybusey | im quick in the draw |
| 00:00.41 | ogrosticlops | I still want Elive on this server. |
| 00:00.55 | zdh | go buy some cheap usb mouse ? |
| 00:01.27 | mainer | use kernel loop |
| 00:02.40 | mainer | dump iso in partition(by itself) and use the details you see in iso using loop to config grub boot it to install in another partition |
| 00:03.31 | Theoden | :-) |
| 00:03.46 | mainer | hey Theoden |
| 00:03.52 | Theoden | hi |
| 00:04.52 | mainer | hobo's back from 2 days in winchester |
| 00:04.58 | mainer | w.e. that is lol |
| 00:05.34 | Theoden | cool. |
| 00:05.39 | mainer | yuh |
| 00:05.46 | Theoden | He missed the fun. |
| 00:06.05 | mainer | man,what a day,feel like i got run over by a mack trtuck :) |
| 00:06.23 | Theoden | I know that feeling. |
| 00:06.37 | mainer | need more sleep,and a better quality sleep |
| 00:08.32 | Theoden | need more money, and bigger denominations. |
| 00:08.55 | mainer | but lol |
| 00:09.19 | mainer | Theoden: wrong tab ,meant lol |
| 00:09.23 | mainer | how true |
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| 00:17.22 | garybusey | i'm hungry |
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| 00:25.21 | ogrosticlops | I still want to get this on my netfinity 5000. |
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| 00:28.16 | ogrosticlops | I fail to understand why it won't see the CDrom after it uses it to mount and sees the AIC7XX controller |
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| 00:34.44 | ogrosticlops | that's brutal. |
| 00:35.32 | PrinceAMD | anyone here good at physic? |
| 00:35.43 | zdh | im not |
| 00:37.04 | PrinceAMD | anyone here good at physic? |
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| 00:37.22 | ogrosticlops | I float far beyond the center of gravity, please help me. |
| 00:37.35 | PrinceAMD | anyone here good at physic? |
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| 00:38.12 | ogrosticlops | they seem to be stuck in a time paradox |
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| 01:10.09 | Ketzal | Thanatermesis, Holaaaaaaaaa!! |
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| 01:10.39 | Ketzal | Thanatermesis, te acuerdas de mi? Soy Shinomura, albert. el estudiante que hizo un trabajo de Elive y sacó un 9.5 xD |
| 01:11.15 | Ketzal | Can I talk with you? |
| 01:11.21 | Thanatermesis | hi Ketzal :) |
| 01:11.25 | Thanatermesis | yes, i remember you :) |
| 01:11.35 | Ketzal | Oh, i'm honored xD |
| 01:12.04 | Thanatermesis | lol |
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| 01:16.07 | Thybo | heyyy Thanatermesis how are you doing?;) |
| 01:16.12 | Thybo | Ketzal, muy bien |
| 01:16.19 | Thybo | aun elive se merece un 10 jejeje |
| 01:16.54 | Ketzal | jaja, Elive quizás si pero mi trabajo según el profesor 9'5 |
| 01:17.13 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, good :) busy like ever |
| 01:17.29 | Thanatermesis | i don't have much MacBooks testers for the release of Elive for Macbooks :/ |
| 01:17.32 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, what are you up to?;) |
| 01:17.47 | Thanatermesis | well, yes, a lot of persons enter on #elivemac, but nobody says anything about Elive lol |
| 01:17.57 | Thanatermesis | then, i can't know if the installer has any problem or not |
| 01:18.01 | Thybo | ill have a mac that i will be able to run some tests on |
| 01:18.09 | Thybo | but dunno if to instal |
| 01:18.13 | Thybo | my bro's |
| 01:18.14 | Thanatermesis | Ketzal, bueno, un 9,5 no está nada mal ;) |
| 01:18.31 | Thanatermesis | a macbook ? |
| 01:18.41 | Thanatermesis | well, i need to test specially the installer :/ |
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| 01:20.42 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, hmm is it just for macbook or for macs as well? |
| 01:21.29 | Thybo | elive is reaaaaaaaaal quick today i love her:) |
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| 01:23.21 | trog | Thybo: mount your partitions with noatime and nodiratime, and it will get even quicker ;) |
| 01:25.01 | PrinceAMD | or use reiserfs! |
| 01:25.27 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, just macbooks |
| 01:25.41 | PrinceAMD | trog, if u keep talkin about ext i'll treat u like ubuntu |
| 01:25.53 | trog | it should work on reiser also |
| 01:25.54 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, than i won't |
| 01:25.58 | Thybo | its my bro's comp |
| 01:26.02 | Thybo | and not a laptotp |
| 01:26.11 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, ok :/ |
| 01:26.12 | Thybo | trog, how do i enable these funcions? |
| 01:26.15 | Thybo | :( |
| 01:26.21 | Thybo | my mom is gonna buy one |
| 01:26.22 | DvineLord | what is a good gui ssh client that has alot of packages? |
| 01:26.27 | Thybo | as soon as leopard comes out though |
| 01:26.32 | trog | actually, you have to disable them :) |
| 01:27.36 | trog | Thybo: in /etc/fstab, _after_ defaults, you put "noatime,notail" (for reiser) |
| 01:28.19 | trog | should give you a significant speed increase |
| 01:28.44 | Thybo | trog can u send me your fstab to have an ex ?:) |
| 01:29.07 | PrinceAMD | DvineLord, GUI SSH? |
| 01:29.11 | trog | i can paste a line from it....but i'm too scared, since my partitions are ext3, and princeamd just loves ext3 ;) |
| 01:29.30 | trog | Thybo: /dev/sda7/homeext3defaults,noatime,nodiratime02 |
| 01:29.41 | trog | replace "nodiratime" with "notail" if you have reiser |
| 01:30.14 | DvineLord | yea |
| 01:30.17 | DvineLord | like putty |
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| 01:30.40 | Thybo | righ file is /etc/fstab isn't it? |
| 01:31.00 | trog | yes |
| 01:31.05 | Thybo | is the 0 2 important |
| 01:31.12 | trog | no, leave it unchanged.... |
| 01:31.30 | trog | you just have to add those 2 options ...dont touch anything else |
| 01:32.29 | Thanatermesis | trog, how much "fast" ? do you have any benchmark ? |
| 01:33.13 | trog | no benchmark, sorry ...i just feel the speed increase, and it reduced the time for copying 180gb of data, with about 10 minutes.... |
| 01:33.24 | trog | ubuntu will go for noatime :> |
| 01:33.40 | Thanatermesis | and noatime is secure ? |
| 01:34.27 | trog | unleast you have a mailserver, or any kind of server with realtime changes in the fs (many files written fast), yes |
| 01:34.36 | Thanatermesis | i mean... the applications can know the access times ? |
| 01:35.14 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, is that to be implemented in elive |
| 01:35.14 | trog | they can get it from mtime |
| 01:35.18 | Thybo | by update?:p |
| 01:35.35 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, just add the option on your /etc/fstab |
| 01:35.37 | trog | well...no access time :> just mtime |
| 01:35.40 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, noatime was on a post edited by thorvald |
| 01:35.44 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, it won't save |
| 01:35.45 | Thybo | haha |
| 01:35.46 | Thybo | i know why |
| 01:35.47 | trog | http://kerneltrap.org/node/14148 |
| 01:35.48 | Thybo | im stupid |
| 01:35.50 | Thybo | forgot to su |
| 01:35.50 | Thybo | hehe |
| 01:36.45 | Thybo | ok |
| 01:36.48 | Thybo | than what? |
| 01:36.48 | Thybo | hehe |
| 01:36.59 | trog | mount / -o remount,rw |
| 01:37.18 | trog | (replace "/" with every mounted partition)...after you change fstab :) |
| 01:37.31 | Thybo | wow |
| 01:37.36 | Thybo | thana its so much faster!!! |
| 01:37.41 | Thybo | u can do that with fat32 |
| 01:37.42 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 01:37.43 | trog | :)))) |
| 01:37.44 | Thybo | and ntfs? |
| 01:37.50 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, u tried it? |
| 01:37.51 | Thybo | try it |
| 01:37.53 | Thybo | ull see wow |
| 01:37.58 | Thybo | impressed, i am |
| 01:37.58 | keyra | Thybo: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 01:37.59 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, how can you say "much faster" ? |
| 01:38.00 | Thybo | have to include it |
| 01:38.14 | trog | Thybo: there are tuning tools for ntfs & fat ....like mkfs.ext3 *cough* |
| 01:38.22 | Thybo | coz before im done clikquig im in the folder!!!! |
| 01:38.23 | Thanatermesis | i mean... como o con que has podido comprobarlo y darte cuenta tan rapido ? |
| 01:38.34 | Thanatermesis | lol trog |
| 01:38.45 | Thybo | trog, loool ok thanks but im wind0ws dependent for dreamweaver |
| 01:38.53 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, he hecho lo que me a dicho trog |
| 01:38.57 | Thybo | modifcado |
| 01:39.01 | Thybo | y luego abri thunar |
| 01:39.02 | Thybo | y yaaaaaa |
| 01:39.04 | Thybo | :) |
| 01:39.07 | Thybo | intentalo vasaver:) |
| 01:39.30 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, y en eso se puede ver alguna diferencia ? creo que si lo vuelves a poner como antes podrias ver que va igual de rapido |
| 01:39.45 | Thybo | hmm |
| 01:39.47 | Thybo | yo no creo |
| 01:39.52 | Thybo | tampoco es lo indispensable |
| 01:40.01 | Thybo | pero creo que es una diferencia que se nota |
| 01:40.15 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, es que con un benchmark tan.... no creo que se pueda saber |
| 01:40.31 | Thanatermesis | trog, noatime is for all the FS ? any other option recommended to make a look ? |
| 01:40.45 | Thybo | jajaja |
| 01:40.55 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, duda de mi :'(:'(:'( |
| 01:41.14 | trog | Thanatermesis: from what i've read, there is also "nodiratime" for ext3 filesystems...dont know about reiser |
| 01:41.33 | trog | but noatime should work on all fs's ....(havent tested it, except for ext3 & reiser) |
| 01:41.38 | Thybo | goto go |
| 01:41.39 | trog | also, "notail" is just for reiser |
| 01:42.09 | trog | i use "noatime,nodiratime" for ext3 |
| 01:44.01 | Thanatermesis | mmh, nodiratime is not listed on "man mount" |
| 01:44.24 | trog | its an easter egg in the kernel ;) |
| 01:45.03 | trog | Thanatermesis: see this discution : http://kerneltrap.org/node/14148 |
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| 02:03.04 | Nacho_Bor | hola |
| 02:03.08 | Nacho_Bor | tengo problemas |
| 02:03.18 | keyra | Nacho_Bor: que tal ? |
| 02:03.34 | Nacho_Bor | tengo problemas con los puertos usb |
| 02:03.38 | Nacho_Bor | no me los dete3cta |
| 02:03.52 | Nacho_Bor | tube q agregar al grub irqpoll |
| 02:04.01 | Nacho_Bor | asi si me los hace funcionar |
| 02:04.06 | Nacho_Bor | pero funciona mal el pc |
| 02:04.16 | Nacho_Bor | esto hace q deves en cundo carge demaciado el pc |
| 02:04.30 | Nacho_Bor | y hace q el lector funcione sin nada dentro |
| 02:04.40 | Nacho_Bor | y esto hace q se congele |
| 02:04.46 | Nacho_Bor | q ago |
| 02:04.47 | Nacho_Bor | SOS |
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| 02:20.45 | assasukasse | hello thana |
| 02:20.59 | keyra | assasukasse: hi |
| 02:21.02 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: look at this http://sourceforge.net/projects/simdock |
| 02:21.37 | ogrosticlops | I really wish I could figure out why Gem dies when trying to re-mount cd. |
| 02:22.31 | Thanatermesis | hi assasukasse, yes, i have see that :) |
| 02:22.42 | assasukasse | :) |
| 02:23.06 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: is that a "copy" of the ibar dock? :D |
| 02:23.58 | Thanatermesis | assasukasse, well, looks similar... but we have a better power with the e17 libs ;) |
| 02:24.19 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: when will u release the new e17 |
| 02:25.39 | assasukasse | i want to put a new animated background but i found ones that work only with the latest e17 |
| 02:26.22 | Thanatermesis | release Elive with new e17 requires a LOT of work |
| 02:26.28 | Thanatermesis | and my TODO list only grows :/ |
| 02:27.17 | ogrosticlops | Thanatermesis: is there a way to launch the Gem livecd to hd installer from terminal for those who can't seem to get a mouse going? |
| 02:28.00 | assasukasse | :) |
| 02:28.18 | Thanatermesis | ogrosticlops, you have on the boot a option called "qemu_or_mouse_problems", do you ahve tried it ? |
| 02:28.25 | ogrosticlops | I'm running the iso of gem in qemu and on a netfinity server it doesn't actually track the mouse in Xorg, just recognize a right or left click, and open then and all hotkeys in the bottom right of the corner |
| 02:28.28 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: elive and puppy are the only "one man distro" that i ever tried :D |
| 02:28.42 | Thanatermesis | assasukasse, slackware too ;) |
| 02:28.55 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: i didnt try slackware |
| 02:29.02 | assasukasse | only wolwix if i remember good |
| 02:29.09 | assasukasse | so 3 distro |
| 02:29.39 | ogrosticlops | Thanatermesis: I have, also tried no graphical and the trackign problems seem terribly unique to the fact that i'm on a server machine. |
| 02:29.51 | ogrosticlops | *tracking |
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| 02:29.51 | Thanatermesis | ogrosticlops, no, is not possible to install from not-X, but install SSH and do a ssh -Y ;) |
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| 02:30.39 | ogrosticlops | Wow, from everything i've tried that's actually pretty easy instead of trying to ghost it to another drive |
| 02:30.49 | ogrosticlops | thanks |
| 02:31.08 | ogrosticlops | I'll be back to bitch about my ineptitude later! |
| 02:34.15 | trog | this modified gtk theme and firefox theme, goes very well with the blacktheme theme |
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| 02:39.09 | Thanatermesis | trog, i think that you can modify also a firefox configuration to works more "dark" (yes, websites stuff) |
| 02:39.38 | trog | mmmmm |
| 02:39.44 | trog | i'll check it |
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| 02:40.46 | trog | yep, found it :) thanks |
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| 02:44.04 | Theoden | Hi roxville |
| 02:44.20 | trog | aloha :) |
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| 02:47.45 | roxville | hi Theoden and trog and Tanner :) |
| 02:47.52 | Tanner | :D |
| 02:47.52 | roxville | and hi GPLGeek :) |
| 02:48.04 | Tanner | G'day, roxie. |
| 02:48.11 | trog | woof |
| 02:48.14 | GPLGeek | hi |
| 02:48.52 | roxville | Tanner, i am roxville... roxie sounds like a girl... |
| 02:49.08 | Tanner | You're a dude? |
| 02:49.10 | Tanner | ... |
| 02:49.13 | trog | LOL |
| 02:49.15 | Tanner | I'm disappointed. |
| 02:49.20 | GPLGeek | No... hes more than a dude... He's a man's man |
| 02:49.31 | roxville | :D |
| 02:49.34 | trog | i'm female tanner ;) ...but only in weekends |
| 02:49.41 | Tanner | Hehe. |
| 02:49.58 | GPLGeek | I can put on a blonde wig and high heels, and pretend. |
| 02:50.16 | trog | its not that easy ....you must FEEL |
| 02:50.21 | Tanner | This is a lawsuit waiting to happen. |
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| 02:50.26 | GPLGeek | I hold the secrets of the clown. |
| 02:50.33 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:51.03 | trog | GPLGeek: cool...but does your girlfriend use linux ? :D |
| 02:51.26 | GPLGeek | I hope this girl becomes my girlfriend.... |
| 02:51.43 | GPLGeek | and we have not talked about linux yet, which is probably why she wants to go out again. |
| 02:51.54 | trog | mine does :D ...my former one used to, until i cought her cheating on me with vista |
| 02:52.05 | trog | hahahaa GPLGeek |
| 02:52.31 | roxville | guys, we are trying to break the ubuntu or... the non-existing Elbuntu's monopoly over this site |
| 02:52.32 | roxville | http://e17-stuff.org/ |
| 02:52.55 | roxville | so i have uploaded some backgrounds, and PrinceAMD uploaded some entrance themes that we made |
| 02:52.58 | trog | e17-stuff.org is great ...too bad most of their themes aint updated |
| 02:53.05 | roxville | would you please go and vote? |
| 02:53.12 | trog | saw that today :) i read their rss |
| 02:54.15 | roxville | i tried the black theme...it's nice...until i saw the elbuntu logo in the tsart bar |
| 02:54.23 | roxville | start |
| 02:56.59 | trog | :) |
| 02:57.02 | trog | its just a png...replace it |
| 02:57.20 | trog | just modified a gtk theme to fit to it |
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| 02:57.30 | Theoden | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.43 | Theoden | 'buntu' from the Zulu language, Is a word which has been tragically misused by many. Some have interpreted it as a symbol for community, but that just isn't true. The real translation can be obtained by simply breaking the word into it syllabic components. Seen as two syllables, 'bun' meaning 'full of', and 'tu' meaning 'it'. So obviously, we are referring to something or someone who is full of it. Placing the common 'u' prefix with t |
| 02:57.43 | Theoden | his phrase and the translation becomes 'you're full of it'. |
| 02:57.44 | Theoden | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.13 | roxville | LMAO |
| 03:06.24 | Theoden | Latest deb of opera available at opera.com - version 9.23 |
| 03:06.24 | Theoden | Build |
| 03:06.24 | Theoden | 660 |
| 03:08.11 | assasukasse | roxville: what about this e17-stuff.org, wll the background work with the current elive? will everything work with the current elive? |
| 03:08.59 | roxville | assasukasse, do you want me to add that as a comment or, are you asking me? |
| 03:09.16 | assasukasse | roxville: i was asking :D |
| 03:09.24 | assasukasse | roxville: where should i vote |
| 03:09.28 | roxville | if you are asking me: no, everything there will NOT work with standard elive install |
| 03:09.58 | roxville | MAYBE the animated backgrounds, but not certain |
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| 03:10.24 | roxville | hi keyra welcome back :) |
| 03:10.38 | keyra | roxville: :D |
| 03:10.50 | assasukasse | roxville: i've never found a working animated back working... |
| 03:11.06 | roxville | and assasukasse to be honest... some of the stuff there doesn't work with the current e17 version either |
| 03:11.48 | assasukasse | roxville: lol:D |
| 03:12.41 | assasukasse | roxville: do the themes work? or the etk themes? |
| 03:12.54 | trog | blacktheme does |
| 03:12.57 | roxville | so much is happeneing in e17 right now, that one version could be almost totally incompatiable with the next |
| 03:13.01 | roxville | it's really weird |
| 03:13.15 | roxville | soon, they will totally take out eaps, too |
| 03:13.24 | assasukasse | roxville: i know, its a pity is like that, is also a pity is in beta state forever.. |
| 03:13.40 | roxville | yeah |
| 03:13.40 | assasukasse | roxville: out of eaps? use the normal menues? :D |
| 03:14.03 | roxville | well the development has been very slow... but elive's popularity has helped a LOT |
| 03:14.16 | Theoden | The newest E17 is pretty easy to configure once you get usede to the differences. |
| 03:14.21 | Theoden | used |
| 03:14.32 | roxville | assasukasse, the new e17 uses .desktop as extension |
| 03:14.47 | assasukasse | roxville: i think there are a few flaws that need to be fixed, one is that menu should automatically add the entries of the software.. |
| 03:14.48 | roxville | and menus are auto-generated |
| 03:15.01 | roxville | :) |
| 03:15.02 | assasukasse | roxville: i can't wait to have the new e17 in elive then :D |
| 03:15.32 | roxville | yeah i am eagerly awaiting the next dev version too... |
| 03:15.53 | assasukasse | roxville: but thana told me that requests alot of work |
| 03:15.56 | assasukasse | and he is alone.. |
| 03:16.29 | roxville | yeah... |
| 03:16.46 | roxville | since it's so new, there's a LOT of configuring for him to do |
| 03:16.57 | assasukasse | so i dunno when and if we will have the new e... |
| 03:17.07 | roxville | hopefully, i can convince him that a lot of ppl would like to help... |
| 03:17.20 | DvineLord | hell shoot them down |
| 03:17.21 | DvineLord | =) |
| 03:17.31 | roxville | and since it will be in a dev version, we can work on it for a while till the next stable |
| 03:17.59 | DvineLord | is there a new iso out roxville? |
| 03:18.02 | assasukasse | roxville: this has been always a problem of every enlightenment developer :D no help from anyone, no ideas from anyone, no good things from any other desktop :D |
| 03:18.10 | roxville | we have mathmanp and PrinceAMD who are getting REALLY good at edje stuff |
| 03:18.40 | roxville | DvineLord, oh no... not yet...BUT... thana is thinking harder about it now :) |
| 03:19.06 | roxville | yeah assasukasse you are so right |
| 03:19.38 | assasukasse | roxville: imho i think that some good stuffs from other desktops could be stolen :D |
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| 03:20.16 | assasukasse | enlightenment has the power to outperform every other WM available at the moment but icewm :D |
| 03:20.24 | roxville | yeah... thana wants to be the guy that other people steal from... |
| 03:20.47 | trog | send him to romania .... |
| 03:21.12 | roxville | i think the e17 development has gotten some... "donations" or something... from sony |
| 03:21.22 | roxville | trog, LOL |
| 03:21.52 | trog | :) |
| 03:22.09 | trog | after all, stealing is our national sport |
| 03:22.14 | roxville | assasukasse, do you know HOW many times the "elbuntu" project has tried to win thana over? |
| 03:22.27 | roxville | he's got tons of email from them |
| 03:22.49 | roxville | and the last thing... hehe, this is a good one... |
| 03:22.51 | assasukasse | roxville: u mean they want thana to work for them |
| 03:23.06 | roxville | yes that's what i mean... |
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| 03:23.35 | roxville | anyway... someone in the elbuntu "team" claimed that Thana STOLE the elpanel...from them!! |
| 03:23.37 | roxville | :D |
| 03:23.41 | assasukasse | roxville: why should he? ubuntu is damn good at some stuff but damn slow... |
| 03:23.44 | roxville | it's hilarious! |
| 03:23.58 | roxville | the don't even have an iso out, for pete's sake! |
| 03:24.01 | DvineLord | does ubuntu even have any ubuntu specific utils? |
| 03:24.09 | trog | from their website : |
| 03:24.11 | trog | Status: |
| 03:24.11 | trog | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.11 | trog | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.11 | trog | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.11 | trog | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.13 | DvineLord | i have xubuntu burned off and i didnt see anything special |
| 03:24.40 | DvineLord | unless ubuntu is alot different |
| 03:24.54 | Theoden | Ubuntu sux rocks |
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| 03:25.25 | assasukasse | well, it does have every stuff u need for laptop compatibility, moreover the devs are pretty fast at putting new packages.. |
| 03:25.36 | assasukasse | what i dont like is that is DAMN slow |
| 03:25.39 | keyra | assasukasse: thanks... bot :) |
| 03:25.53 | DvineLord | this girl is hardcore |
| 03:25.57 | roxville | assasukasse, i totally agree with you |
| 03:26.01 | DvineLord | in this movie |
| 03:26.02 | Theoden | I wouldn't use unbuntu to run a computerized toilet. |
| 03:26.05 | DvineLord | she is in Haiti |
| 03:26.07 | DvineLord | enough said |
| 03:26.30 | DvineLord | i would think ubuntu would be too big for embedded applications |
| 03:26.36 | DvineLord | toilets need a super small os |
| 03:26.37 | DvineLord | =) |
| 03:26.46 | Theoden | lol |
| 03:26.48 | roxville | i came here from ubuntu... i tried to convince thana to use it for elive... |
| 03:26.58 | roxville | that was a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago :) |
| 03:27.30 | assasukasse | i use ubuntu on my laptop, and it does work wonderfully even at suspend and resume..moreover the battery lasts far more than elive (with the same cpufreq governor) and i dunno why |
| 03:27.56 | piosalan | hey I'm about to ask a dumb question so be prepared..... |
| 03:28.23 | piosalan | how do I check if certain "ports" are "open" |
| 03:28.26 | assasukasse | more than this i have pidgin and all the newest stuff, while elive doesn't even have the offline send plugin for gaim...but damn it, ubuntu crashes from time to time, but elive NOT! and it does load in a fraction of time |
| 03:28.34 | piosalan | ? |
| 03:28.49 | trog | piosalan: with "netstat -tau" you can see every open port, and the tcp/udp connections |
| 03:28.53 | DvineLord | i got linuxmint xfce on my laptop right now |
| 03:29.03 | trog | but a faster way, is to telnet to localhost, on any port you wanna check |
| 03:29.05 | DvineLord | i might needa go back to winxp though |
| 03:29.15 | DvineLord | since i cant get vga and tvout to work at the same time |
| 03:29.19 | DvineLord | and the ati drivers dont work |
| 03:29.31 | piosalan | <trog>: thanks |
| 03:29.42 | trog | ("netstat -taunwp" gives you more info, even tells you which program opens the port) |
| 03:29.43 | assasukasse | DvineLord: what is the need for linuxmint? |
| 03:29.44 | trog | anytime :) |
| 03:29.50 | DvineLord | it comes with alot of stuff |
| 03:29.56 | piosalan | <trog>: might have one more for you if they're not open :P |
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| 03:30.10 | DvineLord | that youd use |
| 03:30.19 | trog | please dont ask me how to open it :> |
| 03:30.20 | assasukasse | DvineLord: i don't like lot of stuff, i want to control what i install...i am totally able to install flash and the w32 codec.. |
| 03:30.31 | DvineLord | koo |
| 03:30.36 | DvineLord | fine |
| 03:30.42 | DvineLord | but whats installed i dont have any beef with |
| 03:30.47 | DvineLord | so im happy with what it comes with |
| 03:30.50 | DvineLord | minus amarok |
| 03:30.53 | DvineLord | fuck that shit |
| 03:30.54 | DvineLord | =) |
| 03:30.58 | assasukasse | DvineLord: i tried it, is nice, but slow like ubuntu :D |
| 03:31.05 | roxville | but DvineLord linuxmint...is just ubuntu... with the proprietary codecs enabled... basically |
| 03:31.09 | DvineLord | i let exaile stay on though |
| 03:31.19 | DvineLord | its not just ubuntu |
| 03:31.23 | DvineLord | it has alot of its own utils |
| 03:31.26 | DvineLord | and it works well |
| 03:31.45 | piosalan | <trog>: if you don't mind... |
| 03:31.47 | DvineLord | but yes its slower other distros |
| 03:31.55 | piosalan | <trog>: trying to use gift |
| 03:31.55 | DvineLord | but not any slower then any other major distro |
| 03:32.06 | piosalan | <trog>: and from what i read on forums |
| 03:32.09 | DvineLord | like suse,mandrake,redhat,ubuntu |
| 03:32.26 | piosalan | <trog>: I need to make sure these certain ports are open |
| 03:32.32 | DvineLord | i downloaded archlinux |
| 03:32.33 | assasukasse | roxville: have u seen the new deluge...is fantastic, i've been using it on ubuntu, i tried to install in elive and was unsuccesfull |
| 03:32.39 | DvineLord | but didnt wanna deal with all the manual shit |
| 03:32.52 | DvineLord | yes deluge ownz |
| 03:32.53 | piosalan | <trog>: so in other words I'm sick of google and reading forums |
| 03:33.01 | assasukasse | i use: puppylinux, ubuntu, xubuntu, elive, vectorlinux |
| 03:33.10 | trog | well, "open" means something is listening on it ...in windows terms, "open"="not blocked" |
| 03:33.14 | DvineLord | i installed vectorlinux |
| 03:33.20 | trog | they're open .... |
| 03:33.28 | DvineLord | it was slackware 11 so i scrapped it |
| 03:33.28 | piosalan | <trog>: ahh |
| 03:33.38 | assasukasse | roxville: http://deluge-torrent.org/ |
| 03:33.41 | DvineLord | and its core apps and shit i dont really care much for |
| 03:33.42 | piosalan | <trog>: well shoot |
| 03:33.50 | Theoden | DvineLord: It's really easy - fast as the wind and a breeze to keep current. |
| 03:33.54 | assasukasse | vector is FAST |
| 03:33.57 | assasukasse | FAAAAAAST |
| 03:34.04 | DvineLord | i think any slackware based distro is fast |
| 03:34.07 | assasukasse | faster than elive |
| 03:34.10 | trog | vector is basted on slack ? |
| 03:34.12 | assasukasse | a bit slower than puppy |
| 03:34.14 | DvineLord | yea |
| 03:34.14 | trog | yea... |
| 03:34.15 | roxville | oh.... i DID read about it! i have seen that page before :D |
| 03:34.19 | trog | gentoo is faster ;) |
| 03:34.27 | piosalan | <trog>: suppose I'll play some games or look at porn till my patience recharges :P |
| 03:34.30 | DvineLord | zenwalk,vectorlinux,kwort,slax |
| 03:34.35 | assasukasse | roxville: it is really great, nothing to share with transmission... |
| 03:34.35 | DvineLord | all really fast |
| 03:34.43 | trog | piosalan: sorry, whats your question ? :) |
| 03:34.50 | DvineLord | tranmission is lame |
| 03:34.53 | assasukasse | roxville: they have prepackaged for debian testing and unstable.. |
| 03:34.54 | DvineLord | transmission |
| 03:35.06 | DvineLord | u need a new version though |
| 03:35.10 | DvineLord | 0.5.0 is too old |
| 03:35.10 | piosalan | <trog>: no not you! I'm not getting impatient with you |
| 03:35.14 | assasukasse | DvineLord: transmission is super basic |
| 03:35.15 | roxville | piosalan, giFT is a bit hard to install/set up the first time, i agree |
| 03:35.16 | trog | oh.... |
| 03:35.17 | DvineLord | uncompariable with new ones |
| 03:35.25 | DvineLord | i need dht/peer-exchange |
| 03:35.30 | DvineLord | i would think everyone dose |
| 03:35.30 | trog | well, i'm back to futurama |
| 03:35.32 | DvineLord | does |
| 03:35.32 | roxville | try a different client... like giFToxic |
| 03:36.24 | piosalan | roxville: tried giftui and the kde one so far |
| 03:36.26 | roxville | yeah i'm not a transmission fan either... i like the FROG |
| 03:36.31 | roxville | azureus |
| 03:36.36 | DvineLord | id get deluge from the unstable |
| 03:36.41 | DvineLord | on debian |
| 03:36.53 | assasukasse | DvineLord: it doesnt install on elive |
| 03:37.00 | DvineLord | that sucks |
| 03:37.07 | DvineLord | probably cause of the change in libboost |
| 03:37.16 | piosalan | roxville: when I run giftd from terminal it just sits there no noticable cpu usage or anything |
| 03:37.28 | DvineLord | just get from svn |
| 03:37.36 | roxville | piosalan, it IS a paint the first time... and the secaond time... and maybe even the third time... but by then you should have learned :) |
| 03:37.59 | roxville | PAIN, not paint... |
| 03:38.04 | piosalan | roxville: any suggestions? |
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| 03:38.27 | piosalan | roxville: like I said gitfd doesn't do anything not even an error |
| 03:38.31 | assasukasse | DvineLord: so in the end i dont have any proper torrent client on elive...and that SUCKS bit time.. |
| 03:39.14 | DvineLord | hah |
| 03:39.14 | roxville | piosalan, i have not had it installed in a while... |
| 03:39.32 | DvineLord | deluge is the only proper torrent client on linux |
| 03:39.33 | DvineLord | =) |
| 03:39.39 | roxville | i used giFToxic... it is VERY case sensitive... but you know that, right? |
| 03:39.49 | assasukasse | is there someone who wants to compile deluge for elive? |
| 03:39.52 | piosalan | roxville: well hurry up and install it so you can figure this out for me! |
| 03:39.53 | piosalan | :P |
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| 03:40.22 | roxville | there is no "hurrying" when installing giFT |
| 03:40.39 | piosalan | roxville: don't know anything about it just know i'm told it can't connect to host so I think it is something with gift itself |
| 03:40.42 | DvineLord | did u try both the testing and unstable debs from the deluge page? |
| 03:41.12 | roxville | piosalan, are the correct ports open on your router? |
| 03:41.22 | piosalan | roxville: now you sound like my ex-wife |
| 03:41.35 | assasukasse | DvineLord: if i remember good yes |
| 03:41.40 | piosalan | roxville: well.... |
| 03:41.49 | roxville | piosalan, now you sound like my step son... |
| 03:42.08 | roxville | :D |
| 03:42.15 | piosalan | roxville: lol! your step son has an ex-wife! |
| 03:42.15 | DvineLord | assasukasse |
| 03:42.16 | DvineLord | http://deluge-torrent.org/faq |
| 03:42.23 | DvineLord | check all those deps |
| 03:42.35 | roxville | no... not yet... he's only 12 |
| 03:42.41 | piosalan | roxville: have any legal step-DAUGHTERS?! |
| 03:42.44 | piosalan | :P |
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| 03:42.48 | DvineLord | ditto |
| 03:42.49 | DvineLord | =) |
| 03:43.05 | piosalan | anyways :P |
| 03:43.09 | roxville | piosalan, nope... i have a 5 year old real daughter... |
| 03:43.29 | roxville | which i am almost ready to sell as alligator food |
| 03:43.46 | Gwildor | hi... |
| 03:43.48 | Gwildor | bye.. |
| 03:43.48 | roxville | but...in 5 days... she will start kindergarten... YAAAAAY!!!! |
| 03:43.51 | piosalan | roxville: well in a few years maybe you can setup my 6 year onld son with him |
| 03:43.56 | assasukasse | how can i make a deb package for elive :D |
| 03:43.56 | Gwildor | movie time....laters |
| 03:43.57 | piosalan | umm |
| 03:43.58 | piosalan | hre |
| 03:43.58 | roxville | Gwildor, ? |
| 03:44.00 | piosalan | her |
| 03:44.08 | roxville | ok bbye Gwildor :) |
| 03:44.18 | assasukasse | maybe i can put on a page |
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| 03:45.00 | piosalan | roxville: well my box hooks str8 up to DSL through the box so no router and I'm using a fresh install of elive |
| 03:45.04 | DvineLord | checkinstall is all i know |
| 03:45.04 | roxville | hello Elive_user30 and Elive_user8 |
| 03:45.09 | DvineLord | but alot of people say its crap |
| 03:45.10 | roxville | you are the same person :) |
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| 03:45.28 | Theoden | roxville: I have an alligator - maybe we can work something out. |
| 03:45.32 | DvineLord | dsl sucks |
| 03:45.43 | DvineLord | dsl distro is kool though |
| 03:45.44 | roxville | piosalan, i am sorry, i really don't remember... |
| 03:45.50 | roxville | i am not a wiz |
| 03:46.11 | piosalan | roxville: I'm chrooted to a gentoo install where I'm updating world but that shouldn't matter don't think |
| 03:46.22 | DvineLord | u are the goto homie roxville |
| 03:46.25 | DvineLord | =) |
| 03:46.29 | piosalan | roxville: trying to get gift goin |
| 03:46.41 | trog | assasukasse: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6726522426109060914 will teach you everything about debian packages |
| 03:46.44 | trog | elive included ;) |
| 03:46.57 | roxville | piosalan, you DO type giFT in terminal...right? |
| 03:47.19 | piosalan | giftd |
| 03:47.28 | piosalan | or giftui |
| 03:47.29 | assasukasse | i hate to have to install so many deps since i have a small hdd |
| 03:47.32 | roxville | piosalan, giFTd |
| 03:47.37 | piosalan | ahh |
| 03:47.45 | piosalan | roxville: one sec |
| 03:47.51 | roxville | i told you, it is VERY case sensitive |
| 03:47.54 | assasukasse | thanks trog |
| 03:48.05 | trog | np...its 56 min long, but worth it |
| 03:48.14 | roxville | :) |
| 03:48.22 | roxville | make some popcorn... |
| 03:48.35 | trog | order a debian pizza |
| 03:48.36 | piosalan | roxville: no luck using caps doesn't know the command |
| 03:48.42 | roxville | tri LMAO |
| 03:49.23 | trog | :D |
| 03:49.31 | roxville | piosalan, ok... giFToxic was EXTREMELY particuklar about that... |
| 03:49.42 | trog | piosalan: type "gi" <tab><tab> ...see whats in there |
| 03:49.56 | roxville | yeah, good idea |
| 03:49.59 | piosalan | well there's a cold beer and some tourist hoochies waitin for me |
| 03:50.03 | roxville | trog, to the rescue :) |
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| 03:50.09 | piosalan | see ya in a few hours if you're still here |
| 03:50.16 | piosalan | thanks for trying |
| 03:50.23 | roxville | lol ok piosalan |
| 03:51.38 | roxville | remind me of the first time(s) i tried to help Detox_BRB ... |
| 03:52.03 | roxville | he was assuming like a mad man, and had to go back and do over SEVERAL times... |
| 03:52.05 | roxville | :) |
| 03:52.37 | roxville | you remember, Detox_BRB? :) |
| 03:55.15 | roxville | you better... |
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| 04:15.26 | DvineLord | hrm |
| 04:15.31 | DvineLord | i assume i needa update elive |
| 04:15.38 | DvineLord | since debian 4.0r1 came out |
| 04:17.34 | roxville | DvineLord, there's a libc6 update too... |
| 04:17.50 | roxville | i mane, it's included |
| 04:17.56 | roxville | i mean |
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| 04:21.57 | trog | i messed around with grub splash and usplash ...nothing seems to work for me today |
| 04:25.55 | roxville | apt, give trog a cookie |
| 04:25.56 | apt | ACTION gives trog a home-baked oatmeal raisin cookie to cheer him up. |
| 04:26.12 | trog | mmmm |
| 04:26.16 | trog | food....good ideea :) |
| 04:26.19 | roxville | :) |
| 04:26.29 | trog | too bad my microwave doesent work :(( |
| 04:26.39 | trog | :D |
| 04:26.46 | trog | its 7:25 am ....again.... |
| 04:26.51 | trog | friday already |
| 04:27.51 | trog | another futurama episode, and then....SLEEP |
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| 04:36.22 | assasukasse | hello, i have a small problem with news server: i am using ssh port redirection to access my news server from abroad, with the following command: ssh -L 2525:news.tiscalinet.it:119 user@home but when i try to download news, i keep getting disconnected...what could it be? |
| 04:36.37 | keyra | assasukasse: hi |
| 04:37.06 | Theoden | Wow! Big debian etch update. |
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| 04:44.27 | roxville | assasukasse, elivecd.org is down :/ |
| 04:44.42 | assasukasse | roxville: why? |
| 04:45.03 | roxville | not sure... thana was trying to fix it earlier... |
| 04:45.07 | roxville | but he got too tired |
| 04:45.54 | Theoden | It's working here. |
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| 07:38.39 | GPLGeek | I replied to and solved ALL email questions/problems so if you had a problem and emailed me please check your inbox for the solutions |
| 07:38.58 | GPLGeek | Most of the problems were just directing people to the right information, or fixing minor mistakes. |
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| 07:48.23 | Begasus | morning peeps |
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| 09:17.42 | NoneOf | hello there |
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| 09:18.47 | piosalan | anyone home? |
| 09:18.56 | piosalan | yay? |
| 09:18.59 | piosalan | nay? |
| 09:19.03 | piosalan | nada |
| 09:19.28 | piosalan | no abla english? |
| 09:20.01 | Begasus | all dead ;) |
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| 09:20.19 | piosalan | you did it didn't youQ |
| 09:20.42 | Begasus | yeah ... last night !! :) |
| 09:20.52 | piosalan | damn |
| 09:21.13 | piosalan | I haven't done it in 2 months |
| 09:21.24 | piosalan | it's like I'm married again |
| 09:22.05 | Begasus | rofl |
| 09:22.15 | piosalan | so what's goin on brutha? |
| 09:23.04 | Begasus | not much atm .. |
| 09:23.12 | Begasus | gonna grab something to eat actualy ;) |
| 09:23.13 | Begasus | biab |
| 09:23.22 | piosalan | same:( |
| 09:23.47 | piosalan | grab me something too would ya? |
| 09:24.26 | piosalan | preferably a olive skinned chick about 22 or so |
| 09:24.57 | Begasus | lol |
| 09:24.58 | piosalan | or hell as long as she has a pulse that will do! |
| 09:25.07 | Begasus | ---out--- |
| 09:25.20 | piosalan | :) |
| 09:25.49 | NoneOf | this may taste fine - but you will be still hungry :) |
| 09:26.03 | piosalan | for now..... |
| 09:26.09 | piosalan | YES!!! |
| 09:26.30 | piosalan | and what else do we really have but the present? |
| 09:27.16 | piosalan | confucious said "if a man has one leg in tommorow and one in yesterday he is pissing on today" |
| 09:28.27 | wasynyt | good day people |
| 09:28.28 | piosalan | after all "yesterday is history, tommorow is a mystery, today is a gift that is why they call it the "PRESENT:: |
| 09:28.58 | crm_ | wow |
| 09:29.11 | piosalan | yeah that's what she said |
| 09:29.13 | wasynyt | that is a good one |
| 09:29.23 | piosalan | she said that too |
| 09:29.28 | wasynyt | ;P |
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| 09:30.06 | piosalan | so.... |
| 09:30.21 | piosalan | how is everyone this fine evening/morning? |
| 09:30.37 | wasynyt | and you |
| 09:30.58 | crm_ | well |
| 09:31.12 | crm_ | i could still do with winning lotto |
| 09:31.20 | piosalan | sad and depressed and so lonely I'm chatting in a irc room at 4 in the morning for companionshup |
| 09:31.35 | wasynyt | piosalan, why so sad |
| 09:31.48 | piosalan | heh |
| 09:32.10 | piosalan | I don't think I could type that one out :P |
| 09:32.25 | wasynyt | too long ? |
| 09:32.34 | piosalan | afraid so |
| 09:32.41 | piosalan | about 5 years long |
| 09:32.48 | wasynyt | apt give piosalan a beer |
| 09:32.48 | apt | ACTION hands piosalan a cold beer |
| 09:32.57 | piosalan | heh |
| 09:33.11 | piosalan | no more beer had enough of those tonight |
| 09:33.29 | wasynyt | heh |
| 09:33.48 | piosalan | man this chick at the bar cock blocked me for the second night in arow |
| 09:33.56 | piosalan | what the hell is up with that? |
| 09:34.52 | piosalan | but that's not it just the moments frustration |
| 09:34.52 | wasynyt | nah sounds like "life is" |
| 09:35.11 | piosalan | it was funny |
| 09:35.26 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:35.33 | piosalan | cuz the chick that broke my heart.... her name was lisa |
| 09:36.06 | piosalan | she got me a mavado with "forever yours Lisa" engraved on it for valentines |
| 09:36.21 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 09:36.30 | piosalan | and the chick I was trying to get with tonight her name was lisa too |
| 09:36.35 | wasynyt | nice |
| 09:36.43 | piosalan | and I was wearing the watch |
| 09:37.02 | piosalan | so I told her I had a dream we were married and she got me a gift |
| 09:37.15 | piosalan | and when I woke up this watch was on my wrist |
| 09:37.26 | piosalan | and so it must be meant to be |
| 09:37.38 | piosalan | it was smooth |
| 09:37.40 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 09:37.48 | wasynyt | what did she answer |
| 09:37.51 | keyra | piosalan: bee ]:) |
| 09:38.02 | piosalan | then her freind came over :( |
| 09:38.44 | piosalan | didn't go so well |
| 09:38.48 | piosalan | hater |
| 09:38.54 | wasynyt | ? |
| 09:39.15 | piosalan | cock blocked on me |
| 09:39.31 | piosalan | sure I was trying to get laid |
| 09:39.43 | piosalan | who isn't at 230 in the morning at a bar |
| 09:39.51 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 09:40.00 | piosalan | doesn't mean we couldn't have had something meaningful right? |
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| 09:40.52 | piosalan | so yeah here I am |
| 09:40.55 | piosalan | alone |
| 09:41.15 | piosalan | and too drunk to wack off |
| 09:41.37 | piosalan | friends all got someone to go home with |
| 09:41.42 | piosalan | but not shaun |
| 09:41.48 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 09:41.49 | piosalan | never shaun |
| 09:42.03 | piosalan | always the bride's maid |
| 09:42.06 | crm_ | shaun must suck |
| 09:42.08 | piosalan | never the bride |
| 09:42.42 | piosalan | afraid so\ |
| 09:43.19 | crm_ | well piosalan |
| 09:43.27 | crm_ | the topic is #elive |
| 09:43.38 | piosalan | sorry |
| 09:43.49 | crm_ | if you don't have something more interesting .. i suggest you use another channel |
| 09:43.50 | piosalan | gaim isn't workin heh |
| 09:43.57 | piosalan | yes sir |
| 09:44.14 | wasynyt | crm_, let him open |
| 09:44.23 | wasynyt | there is nothing important going on here |
| 09:44.26 | wasynyt | ! |
| 09:44.32 | crm_ | wtf? |
| 09:44.34 | crm_ | open? |
| 09:44.50 | wasynyt | hmm it is a term used were i live |
| 09:44.59 | crm_ | he needs a smack acroos the head and something to do |
| 09:45.02 | piosalan | well if you could tell me how to get 5.1 to work with ca0106 I would love you to death |
| 09:45.30 | crm_ | google it out piosalan |
| 09:45.57 | piosalan | says doesn't work with ca0106 but I'm sure there's a way |
| 09:46.04 | crm_ | actually.. hassle the guys #alsa more |
| 09:46.37 | crm_ | #elive is more about delivering an experience of "the best in open source" package |
| 09:46.38 | abott | crm_: elive is already defined! [one of THE friendliest channels i have seen!] |
| 09:46.49 | crm_ | not solving specific harware issues |
| 09:46.58 | piosalan | I hear ya |
| 09:47.16 | piosalan | hmmm |
| 09:47.27 | piosalan | okay I got it |
| 09:47.56 | piosalan | can't get gift to work on here either |
| 09:48.12 | crm_ | o= |
| 09:48.24 | crm_ | object recogniton? |
| 09:48.33 | crm_ | image recog? |
| 09:48.58 | piosalan | well after install and config I try to use it and says can't connect to host |
| 09:49.04 | wasynyt | ftp client ? |
| 09:49.13 | piosalan | I run giftd and nothing happens |
| 09:49.24 | crm_ | nope |
| 09:49.28 | piosalan | not even an error or cpu usage |
| 09:49.38 | crm_ | what is your goal piosalan with using gift ? |
| 09:50.03 | piosalan | crm_ download music |
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| 09:50.37 | piosalan | crm_ porn too but that's secondary |
| 09:51.04 | crm_ | ahh.. forget that.. i have my packages mixed |
| 09:51.21 | crm_ | i thought gift was vision recognition library |
| 09:51.33 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:51.50 | crm_ | just whats on the mind atm =/ |
| 09:51.53 | piosalan | crm_ well there's GNUift and giFT |
| 09:52.15 | piosalan | from what I googled |
| 09:53.10 | piosalan | gift allows file sharing through four different networks/protocals through one interface |
| 09:53.29 | piosalan | like limemire but better |
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| 09:54.18 | piosalan | curious... |
| 09:54.35 | piosalan | how long has elive been in the works? |
| 09:56.32 | piosalan | holy crap according to he room list on gaim there are like 40 plus rooms for christian chat and all are full |
| 09:56.36 | piosalan | wtf |
| 09:58.28 | piosalan | crm_ you know of any sites for e themes that aren't too for elive? |
| 09:58.46 | piosalan | e17 that is |
| 09:59.39 | wasynyt | e17-stuff.org |
| 09:59.55 | piosalan | crap I gtg talk to yall soon thanks for the chat |
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| 10:24.46 | Begasus | re |
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| 11:26.30 | Tommy | hi, will compiling my own kernel make my elive boot faster? if so, by how much? |
| 11:29.58 | NoneOf | the kernel is modular and most modules are in the lib. only the important ide and stuff modules are in the kernel itself |
| 11:30.07 | NoneOf | it wont go faster |
| 11:30.42 | Tommy | then whats the point in compiling your own kernel exactally? |
| 11:31.34 | NoneOf | add new drivers they are not included ( wlan, special cards etc ) |
| 11:31.56 | NoneOf | add software which is precompiled for a named kernel |
| 11:32.37 | Tommy | i'll try that, thanks |
| 11:32.55 | NoneOf | make the kernel less modular. you can instead of modules put the drivers direct into the kernel |
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| 11:33.28 | Tommy | i'll have to look up a guide for that stuff i suppose, but ill give it a try |
| 11:34.01 | NoneOf | there are several guides on the net. i think you only need a special kernel if some software wont run etc |
| 11:34.15 | NoneOf | for usual use the provided kernel are the best solution |
| 11:35.13 | NoneOf | for example - a friend of mine got an usb dsl modem - and it isnt part of the kernel . so he have to compile his own kernel to use the modem |
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| 11:42.56 | Tommy | NoneOf: sorry about leaving like that, my computer sort of froze. The whole thing just stopps and the mouse and keyboard no longer do anything. This has happened quite a bit lately. Any ideas as to whats happening? |
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| 11:43.47 | Tommy | i believe, after looking at win xp logs, that its to do with my ati card. Something about an "infinite loop" it got stuck in |
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| 11:52.02 | NoneOf | enable recovery in the ati driver ? |
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| 11:52.47 | NoneOf | but it may not help. start from a linux cd with ram-test and let run the test for 2-3 hours |
| 11:53.03 | NoneOf | if no errors occur test 3d tests with your grafic card |
| 11:53.09 | NoneOf | for a first try ... |
| 11:53.42 | Tommy | i do have a memtestxx in my grub menu, is that it? |
| 11:53.49 | NoneOf | this is it |
| 11:54.01 | NoneOf | its a memory test, it stresses the ram to find out errors |
| 11:54.57 | Tommy | ok ill run that, 2-3 hours. I'll do it tomorrow then |
| 11:56.31 | NoneOf | ram causes the most random errors if something else didnt get changed like lateley installed new drivers for sound/grafic, new antivirus... |
| 11:57.05 | NoneOf | if u get 2 modules ram - and the ram check shows some errors - remove one temporary and run the pc without |
| 11:57.10 | Tommy | i just installed a new ati driver, but that was an attempt to fix this problem |
| 11:57.28 | NoneOf | ah yes, the problem was before and persists |
| 11:57.58 | NoneOf | first of all - test the ram, later ask again with the results |
| 11:59.13 | Tommy | ok, ill do the test tomorrow. Thanks a lot for the help :) |
| 11:59.42 | NoneOf | yw |
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| 12:59.42 | Elive_user53 | ./jrg2007 |
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| 13:01.28 | Elive_user53 | hola! alguien q1ue me pueda decir como cambiar el layuot del teclado..pues al cambiarlo al hebreo...luego no me reconoce la contraseña..para volver al español...y no tuve mas que reinstalar todo |
| 13:01.42 | keyra | Elive_user53: que tal ? |
| 13:02.05 | Elive_user53 | debe haber otra solucion..pero soy nuevo en linux...y no tuve otra alternativa...desde ya gracias! |
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| 13:21.37 | Elive_user53 | ./nick jrg2007 |
| 13:21.49 | Elive_user53 | nick jrg2007 |
| 13:23.15 | Elive_user53 | hola !Keira como estas? |
| 13:23.29 | keyra | Elive_user53: que tal ? |
| 13:23.52 | Elive_user53 | bien...tratando de buscar alguna guia... |
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| 13:25.49 | Elive_user53 | como puedo cambiar el layout de teclado...y que luego me reconozca la contraseña... |
| 13:27.07 | Elive_user53 | pues al cambiar al hebreo...y querer volver al español....no me la reconoce..y como soy nuevo..en linux...no supe otra cosa que hacer que instalar todo de nuevo! gracias por cualquier ayuda! |
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| 13:30.39 | MaximilianoADL | good mornig |
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| 14:13.10 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | hello |
| 14:13.23 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | i'll install elive on pc with 128 Mo |
| 14:13.24 | keyra | Marty_Kubuntu_: hi |
| 14:13.38 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | what size for swap ? |
| 14:13.41 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | 256 ? |
| 14:14.06 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | or 128 ? |
| 14:14.13 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | like memory |
| 14:16.43 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | keyra: an advice ? |
| 14:17.54 | roxville | Marty_Kubuntu_, it will work |
| 14:18.23 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | roxville: with swap 128 or swap 256 ? |
| 14:18.34 | roxville | it won't dazzle you with speed, but oh yes, it will work |
| 14:18.40 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | actually pc have 160 Mo ram |
| 14:18.48 | roxville | 256 for swap |
| 14:18.57 | roxville | ok, that's better |
| 14:19.00 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | ok i forget 128 |
| 14:19.02 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | :) |
| 14:19.15 | roxville | no no it will work |
| 14:19.27 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | thanks |
| 14:19.34 | roxville | for surfing and stuff... no problemo |
| 14:19.57 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | but for me i have to use 256 swap |
| 14:20.00 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | right ? |
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| 14:20.19 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | i mean for me /for more |
| 14:20.28 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | me/more |
| 14:20.30 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | sorry |
| 14:21.06 | roxville | LOL |
| 14:21.42 | roxville | in any case...it will run a heckuva lot faster than kubuntu on the same machine :D |
| 14:21.57 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | :) |
| 14:22.00 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | na |
| 14:24.05 | roxville | <Marty_Kubuntu_> but for me i have to use 256 swap <- yes 256 is a good idea |
| 14:26.25 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | ok i put 200 |
| 14:26.26 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | :) |
| 14:26.34 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | between 128 and 256 |
| 14:26.39 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | my last word :) |
| 14:26.47 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | thanks for all |
| 14:29.11 | roxville | hehe |
| 14:29.18 | roxville | Marty_Kubuntu_, no problem :) |
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| 14:32.42 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | so hdd is like this: 6 Gb |
| 14:32.46 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | 2.5 for / |
| 14:32.51 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | 200 Mo for swap |
| 14:33.00 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | dans 3.3 Go for /home |
| 14:33.40 | roxville | looks good! |
| 14:34.50 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | with elive when you plug a stick or put a cd/dvd, can i open without command line ? |
| 14:35.15 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | this is not my pc and people are not geek |
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| 14:36.14 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | you know, a window appear with choice and i choose 'open directory' for example |
| 14:36.27 | wam | hello |
| 14:36.41 | keyra | wam: hi |
| 14:37.18 | wam | I'm using e17 on Debian Lenny using the elive repositories |
| 14:37.32 | keyra | wam: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 14:37.35 | wam | and I would like to switch to a 64 bits configuration |
| 14:37.48 | wam | is there a 64 elive version? |
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| 14:38.05 | roxville | <Marty_Kubuntu_> with elive when you plug a stick or put a cd/dvd, can i open without command line ? |
| 14:38.11 | roxville | you should get a dialog |
| 14:38.16 | Elive_user61 | hello |
| 14:38.50 | roxville | <wam> I'm using e17 on Debian Lenny using the elive repositories <- not the best idea, elive is in etch |
| 14:38.58 | roxville | <wam> is there a 64 elive version? <- no |
| 14:39.06 | wam | ok |
| 14:39.24 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | roxville: ok |
| 14:40.00 | wam | if I refer to this page http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Sources.list_of_Elive |
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| 14:40.05 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | so i don't need to write 'mount /dev/hd.. /media/usb_stick' |
| 14:40.15 | wam | you're using the testing repository |
| 14:40.28 | roxville | wam, i understand |
| 14:40.29 | keyra | wam: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 14:40.47 | wam | that's what I use actually |
| 14:41.05 | roxville | <wam> you're using the testing repository <- this is an old doc... elive stayed in etch when it became stable a couple of months ago |
| 14:41.28 | wam | alright I see |
| 14:41.42 | wam | I should stay tuned |
| 14:41.50 | wam | no major problems anyway |
| 14:42.12 | roxville | hehe that's awesome! |
| 14:42.18 | wam | I understand that problem I've had with glibc1.2 a bit better... |
| 14:42.23 | roxville | have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade yet? |
| 14:43.40 | wam | yeah |
| 14:44.02 | wam | I just have a couple of upgrade I can't do because of unsolved dependancies |
| 14:44.17 | wam | due to the fact that glibc1.2 no longer exists |
| 14:44.23 | wam | so, no 64 bits version, alright, do you think I can apt-build using the deb-src repository ? |
| 14:44.30 | wam | if any |
| 14:46.57 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | i'm installing elive |
| 14:47.02 | roxville | wam, that is beyond my knowledge :/ |
| 14:47.08 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | what is exactly elitaire ? |
| 14:47.37 | roxville | Marty_Kubuntu_, it's a solitaire game |
| 14:47.41 | wam | a solitaire using the efl libraries |
| 14:48.47 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | roxville: it just for help you to be patient !! |
| 14:49.01 | roxville | hehe |
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| 14:49.20 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | why there is some K application in it ? |
| 14:49.24 | wam | and that's a great idea actually |
| 14:49.51 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | wam hum mouef |
| 14:49.52 | wam | last time, the install just finished when I finished the game. perfect timing! |
| 14:50.06 | roxville | hehe |
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| 14:50.07 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | i'm going to take my shower during install |
| 14:50.08 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | :) |
| 14:50.25 | wam | change your login after reboot ;-) |
| 14:50.34 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | it's better for the time past |
| 14:50.37 | roxville | better shower fast! this is not your ordinary ubuntu install |
| 14:50.44 | roxville | albeit on a slower machine... |
| 14:50.48 | wam | ^^ |
| 14:53.23 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | roxville: i'm installing on p2 so i have time to take at least 4 showers |
| 14:53.24 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | :) |
| 14:53.45 | Gandhi | rookmoot, greetings |
| 14:53.56 | Gandhi | roxville, greetings |
| 14:53.59 | keyra | Gandhi: bee ]:) |
| 14:54.14 | roxville | hay Gandhi :) how's life today? |
| 14:54.22 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | and more i know after install system reboot and lauch a dpkg-reconfigure ... |
| 14:54.31 | Gandhi | great and you |
| 14:54.32 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | couple of hours to wait |
| 14:55.40 | roxville | yeah, maybe |
| 14:55.53 | roxville | Gandhi, i am pretty good! |
| 14:56.05 | roxville | 4 days till D-day... |
| 14:56.19 | roxville | my daughter starts kindergarten, and i will be FREE!!!!! |
| 14:57.33 | wam | roxville, are you german? |
| 14:58.02 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | :) |
| 14:58.08 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | kindergarDen |
| 14:58.30 | wam | which is half german, half english... |
| 14:58.39 | wam | pretty strange mix |
| 14:58.50 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | make some kids to be happy to leave them at the kindergarden :) |
| 14:59.02 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | life is beautyful |
| 15:00.13 | wam | can't find the sources :-/ |
| 15:00.22 | wam | debian:/home/wam# apt-build install emodule-mem |
| 15:00.23 | wam | Unable to find source information for emodule-mem at /usr/bin/apt-build line 482. |
| 15:00.44 | wam | should be somewhere... |
| 15:02.26 | wam | the source repositories a completely empty |
| 15:02.59 | wam | correct me if I'm wrong, but that's strange I think |
| 15:03.34 | wam | http://repository.elivecd.net/dists/elive/tests/source/Sources.gz is the list of the sources available for the tests branch |
| 15:03.39 | wam | and it's empty |
| 15:03.49 | roxville | Marty_Kubuntu_, it's kindergarten...i'm pretty sure of it |
| 15:04.07 | roxville | it's an imported german qword |
| 15:04.11 | roxville | word |
| 15:04.34 | wam | we say kindergarden here in Ireland anyway |
| 15:08.12 | roxville | we say kindergarden here too... |
| 15:08.23 | Begasus | we don't :P |
| 15:08.28 | roxville | but it's still spelled kindergarten :) |
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| 15:08.59 | roxville | aannyywwaayy... |
| 15:09.26 | roxville | it's one of those bastardized things... no officially "correct" spelling, i guess |
| 15:09.53 | wam | so what is the correct "english" way to write it? |
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| 15:11.49 | roxville | wam, like i said... |
| 15:12.00 | roxville | Slainte'! |
| 15:12.15 | wam | is there any particular reason elive kept using etch and not testing after the freeze? |
| 15:12.37 | wasynyt | i think that is a wanted feature |
| 15:12.42 | wasynyt | it is easier to maintain |
| 15:13.08 | roxville | yes, it was so Thanatermesis could concentrate on other things than just updating the packages to fit |
| 15:13.09 | wam | and it prevents people to access to the power saving feature of the 2.6.21 |
| 15:13.21 | wam | ok, it makes sense |
| 15:13.32 | roxville | wam, the next dev version will have 2.6.22 |
| 15:13.42 | roxville | but i don't have a date for it yet |
| 15:13.56 | wam | when Lenny will be frozen ;-) |
| 15:15.20 | wam | any idea about why are the source folder completely empty? |
| 15:15.32 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 15:15.33 | wasynyt | nope |
| 15:16.42 | roxville | nope |
| 15:17.02 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 15:17.07 | wam | what's this repos http://repository.elive-systems.com/dists/ ? |
| 15:17.17 | wam | is that a mirror ? |
| 15:17.30 | roxville | no it's the new repo, i think |
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| 15:21.51 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | to get last e17 we need test repo ? |
| 15:21.59 | roxville | http://www.answers.com/topic/kindergarten |
| 15:22.06 | keyra | Marty_Kubuntu_: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 15:22.17 | roxville | Marty_Kubuntu_, correct... for now |
| 15:23.23 | Marty_Kubuntu_ | is it a good idea for a noob user linux ? |
| 15:23.35 | wam | it's alright |
| 15:23.43 | wam | never had any problem |
| 15:23.47 | wam | kindergarten |
| 15:23.47 | wam | Common misspelling(s) of kindergarten |
| 15:23.47 | wam | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.01 | wam | well spotted roxville |
| 15:24.23 | roxville | Marty_Kubuntu_, yes and no... the installation itself still has some issues... the entrance, the login manager CAN have some issues after the install |
| 15:24.24 | wam | I could swear I saw it written kindergarden a couple of time |
| 15:24.35 | roxville | but, overall, yes, it is easier to use |
| 15:25.15 | wam | oh, now I understand why do I have to use gdm still |
| 15:25.21 | roxville | wam, like i said, more people are writing it that way now... it's morphing into english |
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| 15:27.07 | roxville | read the whole thing... other borrowed words are "muffin" and "ouch!" and "clown" |
| 15:27.19 | roxville | Thybo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:27.29 | roxville | i was WORRIED about you!! |
| 15:27.30 | Thybo | hey roxville how are youuuuu |
| 15:27.35 | Thybo | roxville, thaaanks bud :) |
| 15:27.38 | Thybo | but all ok :) |
| 15:27.43 | Thybo | it was strange though!!! |
| 15:27.48 | roxville | you ARE in peru, right? |
| 15:27.54 | Thybo | yeahyeahyeah |
| 15:27.59 | Thybo | leaving tonight for ecuador |
| 15:28.01 | roxville | wooooooooooooow |
| 15:28.05 | wam | cool |
| 15:28.09 | Thybo | won't be around for 2 weeks or so:) |
| 15:28.11 | roxville | i was SDAMN worried... |
| 15:28.15 | roxville | ok |
| 15:28.27 | Thybo | i expect you all to be good while im not hear *lol* |
| 15:29.00 | roxville | whew!! |
| 15:29.15 | Thybo | :):) |
| 15:29.20 | Thybo | it was like being on a boat |
| 15:29.22 | Thybo | but |
| 15:29.22 | Thybo | hehe |
| 15:29.25 | Thybo | wasn't a boat |
| 15:29.30 | Thybo | and some kind of giant guy |
| 15:29.39 | Thybo | was playing with myn paper-looking house |
| 15:29.43 | Thybo | it was impressive |
| 15:33.18 | wam | ok, here I go |
| 15:33.24 | wam | see you guys ;-) |
| 15:33.38 | Thybo | c u wam |
| 15:34.20 | Thybo | wam has quit ("Slamming the door") |
| 15:34.21 | Thybo | hahhahhaha |
| 15:35.05 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:35.22 | roxville | wow Thybo ... it's great to see you... |
| 15:35.27 | Thybo | :):) |
| 15:35.38 | Thybo | i'm sorry i made you worry so much roxville :) |
| 15:35.39 | Thybo | hehe |
| 15:35.46 | Thybo | my mom called me @ 3 in the morning.. |
| 15:36.06 | Thybo | coz where she is its 10 in the morning |
| 15:36.11 | Thybo | my bro had told her about it hehe |
| 15:36.18 | roxville | i would have, too, if i had had your number |
| 15:36.24 | Thybo | lucky i wasn't sleeping boy i would've been pissed ehhehe |
| 15:36.25 | Thybo | :p |
| 15:36.40 | roxville | lol |
| 15:36.42 | Thybo | :) roxville deserves a huge huuuuug and a cold beer |
| 15:36.47 | Thybo | apt give roxville a beer |
| 15:36.48 | apt | ACTION hands roxville a cold beer |
| 15:36.57 | roxville | thx :) |
| 15:37.35 | Thybo | :):) |
| 15:38.31 | assasuka | Thanatermesis: i can't wait to try the new elive with .desktop menus :D |
| 15:39.20 | Thybo | assasuka, Thanatermesis has been working on the new enlightmente elive? |
| 15:39.42 | assasuka | Thybo: ? |
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| 15:40.21 | Thybo | o shooot keyra's back :( |
| 15:41.29 | wizard123 | hello :D |
| 15:41.43 | keyra | wizard123: hi |
| 15:42.23 | roxville | hi wizard123 :) |
| 15:42.39 | roxville | wizard123, you owe me $100 |
| 15:42.47 | wizard123 | what for ? |
| 15:42.57 | wizard123 | man, it's a lot of cash : |
| 15:42.59 | wizard123 | :| |
| 15:43.01 | roxville | you said Thybo would not survive the earthquake... well HA! |
| 15:43.11 | wizard123 | it wasn't me |
| 15:43.15 | Thybo | apt give roxville 100$ |
| 15:43.17 | apt | ACTION gives 100$ to roxville |
| 15:43.20 | Thybo | loooooooooooooool |
| 15:43.21 | roxville | i was just kidding! |
| 15:43.23 | Thybo | hahahha |
| 15:43.25 | Thybo | (y) |
| 15:43.28 | Thybo | heheh:p |
| 15:43.48 | Thybo | betting against me surviving something is throwing money out of the window |
| 15:43.51 | roxville | well he did... so we will have to deal with him for a while longer |
| 15:44.04 | wizard123 | i didn't |
| 15:44.04 | Thybo | especially as long as it doesn't involve my bro |
| 15:44.08 | Thybo | lol |
| 15:44.12 | Thybo | hehe |
| 15:44.20 | roxville | no need to rename the BG to "in loving memory of..." |
| 15:44.21 | Thybo | wizard123, its ok roxville showed me the log |
| 15:44.26 | Thybo | looool |
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| 15:46.27 | wizard123 | anybody familiar with kommander ? |
| 15:46.53 | wizard123 | i think that writing interface in cpp will be faster than dealing with that crap :) |
| 15:47.11 | Thybo | wizard123, konqueror? hahahhahahaha |
| 15:47.12 | Thybo | :p |
| 15:47.25 | keyra | Thybo: Konqueror is bloated ! do you want to turn Elive into a mess like the other distroa ? why use Elive then ? |
| 15:47.29 | Thybo | hehehehe |
| 15:48.06 | wizard123 | kommander.. it's a gui designer from kde |
| 15:48.33 | Thybo | designer? |
| 15:48.36 | Thybo | what do u design?:p |
| 15:49.13 | wizard123 | small app, log parser |
| 15:49.19 | Thybo | :p |
| 15:49.58 | wizard123 | i'm tired of greping, tailing, awking, and cating logs :D |
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| 15:50.25 | wizard123 | fsck, something does not work, i have to back to my tasks.. |
| 15:50.49 | Thybo | hehe |
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| 15:51.01 | Thybo | wizard123, try and mousepad them hahhaah |
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| 16:00.16 | Begasus | cya peeps |
| 16:00.17 | anquietas | Back... |
| 16:00.19 | wizard123 | ok, everything is fine again :) |
| 16:00.22 | anquietas | Ciao Begasus |
| 16:00.38 | wizard123 | Begasus: see you chick |
| 16:01.44 | wizard123 | hm.. what will be better.. writing that app.. or reading a book ? |
| 16:02.07 | roxville | lol |
| 16:03.24 | wizard123 | hehe, i love my job :] |
| 16:06.23 | anquietas | Anyone here who has some tales to tell about NetBeans? |
| 16:07.13 | wizard123 | i know tales about NetBeans |
| 16:07.22 | anquietas | Are they good ones? |
| 16:07.28 | wizard123 | no |
| 16:07.41 | anquietas | Hm. Please be more specific this time. :P |
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| 16:07.46 | wizard123 | everything in my company is written in java |
| 16:08.02 | wizard123 | and everything with java sucks for me |
| 16:08.08 | anquietas | That might suck. |
| 16:08.12 | anquietas | Heh, yes. |
| 16:08.39 | anquietas | But NetBeans supports C++ to be used. |
| 16:08.46 | wizard123 | so you shouldn't care about my opinions about java, j2ee, netbeans and others :P |
| 16:08.46 | anquietas | And it has a built-in UML editor. |
| 16:08.56 | wizard123 | ah.. netbeans! |
| 16:09.01 | anquietas | The IDE. |
| 16:09.04 | wizard123 | that crappy IDE! |
| 16:09.15 | anquietas | lol |
| 16:09.19 | anquietas | Why is it crappy? |
| 16:09.36 | wizard123 | ah, i've never used it, but everybody who has is now happy with eclipse :D |
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| 16:10.10 | anquietas | Do you use Eclipse? |
| 16:10.18 | wizard123 | no, i don't code in java |
| 16:10.32 | wizard123 | i don't have to :) |
| 16:10.37 | anquietas | C++. |
| 16:10.47 | anquietas | I assume Eclipse supports a variety of languages. |
| 16:10.51 | wizard123 | yes |
| 16:11.07 | wizard123 | a friend of mine used eclipse for everything |
| 16:11.27 | wizard123 | java, c, c++, opengl projects, python.. |
| 16:11.46 | anquietas | Does it support UML diagrams, or would you advice me to an other application ? |
| 16:11.58 | wizard123 | and allways when i asked him about eclipse his answer was: man, eclipse rox ;) |
| 16:12.06 | wizard123 | anquietas: i don't know, install and check |
| 16:12.16 | wizard123 | eclipse is free software |
| 16:13.54 | anquietas | Hm, yes. |
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| 16:22.16 | sinplomo | o/ |
| 16:22.57 | anquietas | Lost an arm, sinplomo ? |
| 16:23.24 | Thybo | hehe |
| 16:24.35 | wasynyt | good evening sinplomo |
| 16:24.58 | anquietas | Hei wasynyt |
| 16:25.05 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 16:29.31 | wasynyt | how are you doing |
| 16:29.57 | anquietas | Acceptably. And you ? |
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| 16:30.12 | wasynyt | just good |
| 16:30.36 | anquietas | When do your studies begin? |
| 16:30.40 | anquietas | September? |
| 16:30.43 | Thybo | hey anquietas ;) |
| 16:30.53 | anquietas | Hey Thybo. |
| 16:31.03 | wasynyt | 27th this mont |
| 16:31.03 | Thybo | :) |
| 16:31.05 | wasynyt | month |
| 16:31.17 | anquietas | Ah. |
| 16:31.20 | anquietas | Nice. =D |
| 16:33.20 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:33.52 | wizard123 | hi wasynyt |
| 16:34.03 | wasynyt | good evening wizard123 |
| 16:34.33 | wasynyt | what so bad in that |
| 16:34.38 | wizard123 | friday evening and i'm writing stupid scripts.. |
| 16:35.04 | wizard123 | i should be somewhere else, drunk, picking up chicks |
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| 16:36.05 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:37.16 | wizard123 | the wors't thing is that i'm out of cigarettes.. |
| 16:37.29 | wasynyt | that must hurt |
| 16:37.35 | wizard123 | it does :) |
| 16:37.44 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 16:46.33 | Thybo | wizard123, stop smoking it fucking kills ya |
| 16:46.34 | Thybo | pff |
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| 16:49.02 | anquietas | Hm. |
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| 16:49.19 | anquietas | Stop smoking wizard123, it does no good to you. |
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| 16:51.40 | Thybo | i agree that wizard123 should stop smoking |
| 16:52.31 | roxville | let's vote... |
| 16:52.52 | Thybo | roxville? |
| 16:52.54 | roxville | all in favor of that wizard123 should quit smoking, say aye! |
| 16:52.55 | Elive_user53 | Hola! cambie el teclado (layout)a hebreo...y cuando quise volver el teclado español....con elpanel...no me reconocio el password......soy nuevo en linux |
| 16:53.30 | Elive_user53 | y tuve que instalar de nuevo todo el sistema...alguna ayuda??? |
| 16:54.02 | Elive_user53 | gracias por cualquier indicacion... |
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| 16:54.49 | anquietas | Aye! |
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| 16:54.51 | anquietas | :P |
| 16:54.58 | anquietas | Theoden, say "Aye!". |
| 16:55.10 | Thybo | jaja |
| 16:55.20 | Thybo | ah pues es claro que el hebreo es diferente |
| 16:55.28 | Thybo | talvez deberias copiar la clave a un archivo |
| 16:55.35 | Thybo | y luego copiar y pegar la cuando te la pidenn |
| 16:55.46 | Thybo | porque sino talvez escribe en hebreo entonces no es tu contrasena jaja |
| 16:55.48 | Theoden | anquietas: Howdy. |
| 16:55.55 | Elive_user53 | asi es!!!1 |
| 16:56.01 | wizard123 | demo, watahsi wa suute o suki desu.. |
| 16:56.28 | anquietas | You are suute o suki? |
| 16:56.33 | Elive_user53 | te agradezco..la solucion..simple e inteligente...! |
| 16:56.34 | anquietas | What does that mean? |
| 16:57.06 | Elive_user53 | gracias Thybo!!!!! |
| 16:57.15 | Elive_user53 | ya mismo lo pruebo! |
| 16:57.20 | Thybo | jja |
| 16:57.23 | wizard123 | я влюблю куриня.. |
| 16:57.26 | Thybo | mucho gusto Elive_user53 :) |
| 16:57.32 | Thybo | espero que no tinees que reinstalar todo jeje |
| 16:57.42 | wizard123 | anquietas: i just like smoking.. |
| 16:57.43 | Elive_user53 | un gusto tambien para mi! |
| 16:57.57 | Elive_user53 | si todo me volvi loco! |
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| 16:58.22 | Elive_user53 | que en mi caso no es dificil!no encontraba otra alternativa! |
| 16:58.33 | Thybo | ajajja |
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| 16:59.01 | Elive_user53 | ahora que me distes la solucion!!!!1 yo tambien me rio......de mi mismo... |
| 16:59.29 | Thybo | jajaj |
| 16:59.29 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.32 | Thybo | no que tal ;) |
| 16:59.45 | Thybo | ah tu eres el argentino en israel cierto? :p |
| 17:00.08 | Elive_user53 | todo bien encantado con este mundo de linux.........ese mismo! |
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| 17:00.33 | Elive_user53 | hace casi 2 años que vivo en Israel! |
| 17:00.53 | charasky | buenas Elive_user18 |
| 17:00.56 | charasky | Elive_user53 |
| 17:01.00 | Thybo | :) |
| 17:01.06 | charasky | aca tengo un compaero que vino de israel |
| 17:01.07 | keyra | charasky: nas nas |
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| 17:01.25 | charasky | estuvo en la guerra del libano |
| 17:01.33 | Elive_user53 | y donde vivia en Israel? |
| 17:01.37 | charasky | no se que parte |
| 17:01.40 | charasky | es ing. |
| 17:01.49 | Elive_user53 | era soldado? |
| 17:01.54 | charasky | le pagaron 500 dolares por estar en la guerra |
| 17:01.59 | charasky | ahi es obligatorio el servicio |
| 17:02.08 | charasky | no es "sos soldado" |
| 17:02.09 | Elive_user53 | asi es!!!11 |
| 17:02.23 | charasky | esta muy caliente por eso |
| 17:02.28 | charasky | asi que se vino para argentina |
| 17:02.29 | charasky | xD |
| 17:02.37 | charasky | apenas y habla espaol |
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| 17:02.43 | charasky | ingles fluido |
| 17:02.44 | Elive_user53 | yo la pase tambien! esa guerra...vivo a media hora de el Libano! |
| 17:02.46 | charasky | y hebreo |
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| 17:02.54 | charasky | nada mas |
| 17:03.08 | charasky | trabaja conmigo de programador .NET |
| 17:03.27 | Elive_user53 | en Buenos Aires?????????? |
| 17:03.31 | charasky | si |
| 17:03.33 | charasky | capital |
| 17:04.01 | Elive_user53 | yo vivia en Belgrano!Juramento y Freire! |
| 17:04.05 | charasky | incluso tiene fotos de los que mataron :S |
| 17:04.27 | Thybo | :s |
| 17:05.25 | charasky | nosotros trabajamos en callao y santa fe |
| 17:05.28 | charasky | para una fundacion |
| 17:05.30 | Elive_user53 | fue tremendo.....todo eso...yo tengo esposa y una beba de 1 año y 11 meses..y me la pase corrindo a los refugios .. |
| 17:05.31 | charasky | www.rima.org |
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| 17:10.24 | charasky | nas nas keyra |
| 17:10.34 | charasky | my girlfriend |
| 17:12.32 | Thybo | lool mira charasky lo que lo hiciste:p |
| 17:13.06 | charasky | xD |
| 17:16.32 | wizard123 | haa! |
| 17:16.45 | charasky | Thybo!! hablas espaol |
| 17:16.49 | charasky | recien me di cuenta xD |
| 17:16.54 | wizard123 | ]:> |
| 17:17.25 | wizard123 | i'm the best coder ever :) |
| 17:17.35 | Thybo | charasky, siii jajaja |
| 17:17.39 | Thybo | wizard123, thats not new ;) |
| 17:18.18 | charasky | wizard123 you programing in flash? |
| 17:18.26 | charasky | :S |
| 17:18.38 | Thybo | flash stinks |
| 17:18.47 | charasky | my english sucks |
| 17:19.19 | Thybo | no don't say that |
| 17:19.20 | Thybo | :p |
| 17:19.46 | charasky | xD |
| 17:20.08 | Thybo | hehe |
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| 17:21.56 | wizard123 | charasky: in python |
| 17:22.12 | charasky | good |
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| 17:22.29 | wizard123 | python rocks :) |
| 17:22.34 | wizard123 | i love that language |
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| 17:32.50 | svalovic | what about creating #elive-es for spanish speakig people? |
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| 17:33.37 | Thybo | lol |
| 17:33.43 | Thybo | svalovic, not enought refused |
| 17:34.48 | svalovic | because I don't know what are you talking about in spanish |
| 17:34.57 | Thybo | learn spanish :) |
| 17:35.13 | svalovic | hehe |
| 17:35.44 | svalovic | sorry, it was just a proposal |
| 17:36.16 | Thybo | hehe thx though |
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| 17:37.17 | Elive_user21 | hola instale Elive gem recien y no encuentro el synaptic |
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| 17:37.31 | keyra | Elive_user21: que tal ? |
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| 17:37.55 | Elive_user21 | alguien si me pede decir donde esta synaptic |
| 17:38.31 | Elive_user21 | where is synaptic? i cant find synaptic |
| 17:39.42 | svalovic | its in elpanel |
| 17:41.08 | svalovic | and you can run it from console |
| 17:41.10 | Elive_user21 | thanks svalovic |
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| 17:51.04 | wasynyt | hmm i dont like chess that much :S |
| 17:52.09 | Thybo | thats the point hehe |
| 17:52.14 | Thybo | learn to like it |
| 17:52.24 | wasynyt | not likely to happen |
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| 17:55.46 | wizard123 | aaahh... |
| 17:56.00 | wasynyt | ? |
| 17:56.06 | wasynyt | found more sigarets |
| 17:56.24 | wizard123 | no.. |
| 17:57.00 | wizard123 | i've finnished my script, so now i can lie and rest :D |
| 17:57.46 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.29 | wizard123 | hmm.. |
| 17:59.42 | wizard123 | it's boring just to sit and wait for nothing.. |
| 18:00.00 | wizard123 | where did i put my book :D |
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| 18:16.34 | Gargantua | hi folkes |
| 18:16.39 | Gargantua | what is a module? |
| 18:16.42 | Gargantua | is it like slax? |
| 18:17.06 | wizard123 | module? usually it's loadable part of something |
| 18:17.23 | Pacma | Thanatermesis: estas tengo una duda |
| 18:17.44 | Gargantua | the reason I am asking is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZovBpvhZbZM |
| 18:17.58 | Gargantua | what is a bling module and how did that guy install it? |
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| 18:20.52 | wizard123 | bling is a module for e17 adding composite extensions capabilities to e17 |
| 18:21.19 | kevin_ | hi ppl |
| 18:21.52 | wizard123 | hi kevin_ |
| 18:22.11 | kevin_ | all good? |
| 18:22.14 | Gargantua | how do you add modules? |
| 18:22.18 | Wirelesshnic | Greetings everyone |
| 18:24.17 | kevin_ | Gargantua, apt-get install e-modules |
| 18:24.21 | Gargantua | aah |
| 18:24.22 | Gargantua | cool |
| 18:29.04 | Gargantua | is it possible to install GNOME on elive? |
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| 18:38.05 | roxville | ok, i'm out for a while... bbl |
| 18:38.24 | svalovic | Gargantua, if you want gnome, use debian |
| 18:38.37 | Gargantua | but I wan elive :P |
| 18:38.48 | Gargantua | is elive+gnome possible? |
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| 18:39.07 | svalovic | yes, but it does not have sense |
| 18:39.38 | EMPER0R | hello... in gnome i can restart login manager with /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?? how can i the same for elive login? |
| 18:39.46 | svalovic | elive = debian + enlightenment |
| 18:39.52 | keyra | EMPER0R: hi |
| 18:39.57 | EMPER0R | -> /etc/init.d/entrance not works:/ |
| 18:41.48 | kevin_ | <Gargantua> is it possible to install GNOME on elive? |
| 18:41.55 | kevin_ | that deprecated :) |
| 18:42.02 | Gargantua | what do you mean? |
| 18:42.23 | kevin_ | elive is not created for using gnome on |
| 18:42.47 | kevin_ | and enlightenment is very nice |
| 18:42.51 | EMPER0R | jaja |
| 18:42.56 | Gargantua | well |
| 18:43.01 | keyra | kevin_: :) |
| 18:43.06 | Gargantua | Desktop with no icons doesn't seem very nice :( |
| 18:43.45 | kevin_ | you can update enlightenment to the last csv for have icons |
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| 18:45.14 | svalovic | kevin_: I use e17 from tests repo, is it possible to have icons on desktop with version 0.16.999.040? |
| 18:45.28 | keyra | svalovic: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
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| 18:46.09 | kevin_ | svalovic, yep |
| 18:46.24 | kevin_ | i'm using the 039 and i have that |
| 18:46.29 | svalovic | how? |
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| 18:46.58 | kevin_ | on the 039 you don't have the choice |
| 18:47.14 | kevin_ | so i think on the 040 it's a module |
| 18:48.06 | svalovic | whats the name of it? or, how do you configure it? |
| 18:48.14 | kevin_ | i don't have tryed the 040, i have see too many bug report to use it now |
| 18:48.28 | keyra | kevin_: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 18:48.30 | svalovic | yes, it crashes sometimes |
| 18:48.40 | Wirelesshnic | On that topic I was making some changes to my ibar today and when I clicked save the ibar disapeared. I have tryed unloading and relocding it as well as restarting enlightment and got nothing |
| 18:48.46 | Wirelesshnic | Has anyone else ran into this? |
| 18:49.17 | svalovic | dont have such problems |
| 18:49.26 | kevin_ | kevin_, ? |
| 18:49.37 | svalovic | me |
| 18:50.13 | kevin_ | on the 039 i just have minor bugs |
| 18:51.22 | kevin_ | <kevin_> kevin_, ? |
| 18:51.24 | kevin_ | erf :/ |
| 18:51.28 | kevin_ | keyra, ? |
| 18:51.38 | illu | XD |
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| 19:20.26 | ma_tex | hello |
| 19:20.40 | keyra | ma_tex: hi |
| 19:20.54 | ma_tex | keyra, hi :) |
| 19:21.08 | keyra | ma_tex: hi :) |
| 19:25.35 | Gargantua | hi! |
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| 19:27.41 | ma_tex | Gargantua, hi! |
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| 20:10.49 | anquietas | Erm... I'm looking for an OS independent network library for C++; Does anyone happen to know such a thing? |
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| 21:20.08 | Theoden | Well - here we are all gathered in #mime |
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| 21:23.57 | anquietas | Are .... we? |
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| 22:14.46 | elmo44 | hello boys! |
| 22:15.24 | elmo44 | long time no chat... been away to the cottage (enjoying the ever shortening days of summer) |
| 22:15.42 | elmo44 | Thanatermesis: PiNg |
| 22:15.46 | anquietas | :) Greetings. |
| 22:16.10 | wasynyt | good evening elmo44 |
| 22:16.33 | elmo44 | anquietas: have not seen you here before, recent Elive user? |
| 22:16.39 | elmo44 | wasynyt: evening |
| 22:16.54 | anquietas | Indeed, elmo44. We have never met before. |
| 22:16.59 | anquietas | Nice to meet you. :) |
| 22:17.26 | anquietas | wasynyt, I thought you were sleeping. All those pretending Finns... |
| 22:17.36 | anquietas | :P |
| 22:18.06 | elmo40 | hey, don't knock the finns, they are just as bad as us eestis! ;) |
| 22:18.17 | elmo40 | ~wasynyt |
| 22:18.17 | apt | well, wasynyt is a weird slapping, or liking cervesa |
| 22:18.18 | anquietas | Heheh |
| 22:18.20 | wasynyt | if i would be sleeping i would a) have wished good night and b)be away |
| 22:18.22 | anquietas | You are an Eesti? |
| 22:18.27 | anquietas | I'm Hungarian. Lol. |
| 22:18.30 | Thanatermesis | hi elmo44 :) |
| 22:18.31 | elmo40 | ~elmo40 |
| 22:18.31 | apt | methinks elmo40 is a canuck of estonian descent, and the master of nick completion |
| 22:18.32 | Thanatermesis | pong |
| 22:18.58 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: how you been, ol' chap? ;) Working hard on the distro? |
| 22:19.04 | anquietas | Meeting of the Finnugrian tribes in the #elive channel. What a rare event. |
| 22:19.13 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, only hard ? :S |
| 22:19.16 | wasynyt | not so rare |
| 22:19.42 | elmo40 | ... tirelessly... endlessly... sleeplessly... more? |
| 22:19.47 | anquietas | Well, a Finn, an Eesti, and a Hungarian - This is rare. |
| 22:20.03 | wasynyt | not on #elive |
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| 22:20.17 | elmo40 | this is a multinational channel |
| 22:20.28 | anquietas | I shall accept that. :) |
| 22:20.37 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:20.40 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: when was your latest release? |
| 22:21.11 | elmo40 | you will like to know that I have converted the lady over to Elive :) |
| 22:21.27 | elmo40 | she loves the dark themes... night is it called? |
| 22:21.33 | Gandhi | Thanatermesis, que mas |
| 22:22.06 | anquietas | Greetings Thanatermesis. |
| 22:22.53 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, :) |
| 22:23.13 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, well, i need to finish some crappy things before that i can spend time on work in the next release |
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| 22:24.12 | Theoden | Hi Thanatermesis |
| 22:24.19 | Thanatermesis | greetings anquietas |
| 22:26.30 | elmo40 | time on work? |
| 22:26.34 | Thanatermesis | hi Theoden |
| 22:26.35 | elmo40 | I thought Elive was work :/ |
| 22:27.58 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, i have other things to solve first... like finish that websites things, finish the bonus disk, release finally the version of Elive for macbooks (i need testers!), kick that very crappy and crazy PayPal service, and organize all that work |
| 22:30.58 | elmo40 | I can see that taking some time. All that website stuff must be annoying, eh? the Elive repo is changing, the forums is changing... What's up with the Paypal? |
| 22:32.43 | Thanatermesis | sucks |
| 22:32.46 | Thanatermesis | paypal sucks |
| 22:32.48 | Thanatermesis | a very lot |
| 22:33.04 | Thanatermesis | well, i can tell you with more detail... |
| 22:34.10 | elmo40 | no need, I understand. |
| 22:34.33 | Thanatermesis | i have opened long time ago a paypal account, that i have needed to close because i can't send money to my bank because the country of it (belgium, my bank: spain), 2-3 weeks ago, my actual paypal account get CLOSED and totally unusable (i have noticed because a user that has wanted to dwonload Elive, can't possible to download because the website says "we are sorry but this person not are allowed to receive payments for this moment") |
| 22:34.47 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 22:34.56 | Thanatermesis | well... i have needed to open a NEW acccount temporally for make the downloads again working |
| 22:35.10 | Thanatermesis | and i have NEEDED around 2-3 weeks for understand WHY my account is blocked |
| 22:35.24 | Thanatermesis | aparently because someone has payed for download Elive with a FAKE credit card |
| 22:35.38 | elmo40 | and they pull this 'security' crap, and will not tell you much? |
| 22:35.55 | elmo40 | hey, that is up to THEM to figure out, not you! |
| 22:36.09 | elmo40 | they are there so you can be assured you get money. |
| 22:36.20 | Thanatermesis | and because that person has do this bad thing and payed with this card... im the affected, with my account blocked, without the downloads of Elive possible, and giving a bad reputation to Elive with that kind of message by paypal |
| 22:36.27 | elmo40 | they are supposed to filter all those fake credit cards and phoney people. |
| 22:37.27 | Thanatermesis | the crappy and slow service of paypal don't has explained me anything, i have needed to send more than 30 emails for understand what is exactly happening, and do a telephone call of 30 minutes at a "big expensive" number phone (a kind of number phones that exist on spain for make money... like porn calls) |
| 22:38.03 | elmo40 | so stupid. I am sorry to hear about that! |
| 22:38.43 | Thanatermesis | well, my only solution now is to send via mail a check of 25 $ to paypal in america, wait that mail are received and reviewed by paypal for solve the negative balance, and then (teorically) can open again the account |
| 22:39.12 | elmo40 | theoretically, that is not a good word to use when talking about money! |
| 22:39.46 | elmo40 | but why is it your fault they did not check the persons credit card? why is it not their fault! |
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| 22:40.07 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, that way is totally stupid and really crazy, how is possible to block a account that's used on a "serious bussiness" without any kind of adverticing, email, or timeline stuff ? for a reason that's a PAYPAL PROBLEM ! |
| 22:40.29 | Thanatermesis | paypal has lost me like client :) that's what paypal really do |
| 22:40.59 | Thanatermesis | i can't possible to continue using paypal anymore after that kind of service and probelm that has happened |
| 22:41.33 | elmo40 | I understand. |
| 22:41.37 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, because paypal sucks :) |
| 22:41.50 | elmo40 | plus, they are expensive! Transaction Fees: 1.9% to 2.9% + $0.30 USD |
| 22:41.58 | Thanatermesis | basically |
| 22:41.58 | Thanatermesis | and don't has the minor idea of how to do the things correctly |
| 22:42.07 | wasynyt | so what are your plans for future ? |
| 22:42.29 | elmo40 | they are a small time company, who got big through eBay... but still think too small |
| 22:43.31 | elmo40 | I guess you did not see this site before you started to use them. http://paypalsucks.com/ |
| 22:44.03 | Thanatermesis | long time ago, Elive can't be possible to download by a similar reason... because paypal are doing "beta tests" that has made a BUG and is not possible to use it (maybe you remember, that strange message of paypal problems on the website of Elive), i have lost 2 weeks with this problem, users of Elive that wants to download Elive, affected... and i have lost my money (inutilement) calling paypal by phone for inform about ITS bug... fin |
| 22:44.03 | Thanatermesis | ally for nothing, because nothing is solved, i have finally found a "plan B" solution by my side |
| 22:44.17 | keyra | Thanatermesis: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 22:44.58 | PrinceAMD | keyra, kiss Bryanstein |
| 22:45.03 | Thanatermesis | keyra, i need a paypal alternative :) |
| 22:45.11 | PrinceAMD | LOL |
| 22:45.15 | PrinceAMD | keyra, sex |
| 22:45.29 | keyra | PrinceAMD: please... stop, or I'll call to the op's to kick you :P |
| 22:45.30 | PrinceAMD | Thanatermesis, what kind of BOT is this she dont know what sex is |
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| 22:45.48 | PrinceAMD | keyra, ok baby |
| 22:46.01 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, i have found this website searching a alternative... make a look at the left part, sounds scary but are totally true http://paypalsucks.com/ |
| 22:46.07 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 22:47.15 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt, first plan: solve those problems for work in peace, better organization... swith the Elive website at a CMS, and finally start working on new developmernt versions :) |
| 22:47.45 | wasynyt | hmm sounds like a lot of planning and moving things |
| 22:48.01 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: there are many alternatives, from the (few) forums I have heard good things about, http://www.merchantinc.com/ seems to be the best choice. |
| 22:48.26 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt, well, needed steps :) |
| 22:49.17 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:49.40 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, i have make a look at merchantinc but not tried, other good option like on the forums says is moneybookers.com, i have a accoutn made... im waiting the reply of the "credit card" availability for payments that i have request (aparently is needed to request it for have it working) |
| 22:50.54 | elmo40 | nice. |
| 22:51.18 | elmo40 | I guess she didn't like your tone of voice, PrinceAMD ;) |
| 22:52.00 | PrinceAMD | elmo40, i dont know which part of me she dont like if it's the "Prince" or the "AMD" |
| 22:53.09 | Bryanstein | PrinceAMD, stole my girlfriend |
| 22:53.38 | PrinceAMD | Bryanstein, the better man always win |
| 22:53.50 | PrinceAMD | but i must thank u for taking her from Thanatermesis |
| 22:53.58 | elmo40 | :/ |
| 22:54.05 | anquietas | O.o |
| 22:54.07 | elmo40 | ~PrinceAMD |
| 22:54.07 | apt | i heard princeamd is a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut and 2 girlfriends |
| 22:54.20 | elmo40 | see... 2 girls! |
| 22:54.25 | elmo40 | where is the second one? |
| 22:54.36 | PrinceAMD | a thief thieving from a thief is a master thief |
| 22:54.40 | elmo40 | ~Bryanstein |
| 22:55.05 | PrinceAMD | elmo40, DUHHH u got keyra in my left arm and christine in the other |
| 22:55.24 | PrinceAMD | ohhh ohhh and a beer bottle on my ToMMY |
| 22:55.27 | Bryanstein | yes elmo40 |
| 22:55.50 | Bryanstein | lol @ PrinceAMD 's thief logic |
| 22:56.04 | Thanatermesis | is basically this: http://elivecd.org/test/mb-1/ |
| 22:56.05 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 22:56.23 | Thanatermesis | ~me |
| 22:56.23 | apt | methinks thanatermesis is the leader and founder of Elive, and the only developer http://thanatermesis.org |
| 22:57.20 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 22:57.31 | Bryanstein | PrinceAMD, whois Bryanstein |
| 22:57.47 | PrinceAMD | whois Bryanstein |
| 22:57.55 | PrinceAMD | ~whois Bryanstein |
| 22:58.11 | PrinceAMD | apt whois Bryanstein |
| 22:58.41 | Theoden | This weird conversation is contra-indicated. |
| 22:58.46 | Bryanstein | I'm classified |
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| 23:01.15 | wasynyt | apt Bryanstein |
| 23:01.48 | NathanExplosion | apt Bryanstein is the brain |
| 23:01.49 | apt | NathanExplosion: okay |
| 23:02.09 | elmo40 | it is all espanol, I can't read that :-P |
| 23:02.30 | Bryanstein | arggg apt forget Bryanstein |
| 23:02.33 | PrinceAMD | apt how can i edit you |
| 23:02.41 | elmo40 | ~apt |
| 23:02.41 | apt | it has been said that apt is the debian package manager and nothing to do with ibot, infobot, jbot or perl |
| 23:02.46 | PrinceAMD | apt whois Master |
| 23:02.51 | Bryanstein | felix |
| 23:03.35 | wasynyt | apt owner |
| 23:03.36 | apt | TimRiker is my owner |
| 23:03.47 | Bryanstein | ;p; |
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| 23:04.09 | PrinceAMD | apt is sexy <PrinceAMD> |
| 23:04.22 | PrinceAMD | apt PrinceAMD |
| 23:04.23 | apt | i guess princeamd is a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut and 2 girlfriends |
| 23:04.36 | PrinceAMD | grr it didnt change |
| 23:04.49 | NathanExplosion | apt njo princeamd is a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut and 1 girlfriend |
| 23:04.50 | apt | okay, NathanExplosion |
| 23:04.58 | NathanExplosion | apt princeamd |
| 23:04.58 | apt | princeamd is, like, a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut and 2 girlfriends |
| 23:05.13 | NathanExplosion | apt no princeamd is a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut and 1 girlfriend |
| 23:05.14 | apt | okay, NathanExplosion |
| 23:05.18 | NathanExplosion | apt princeamd |
| 23:05.19 | apt | princeamd is probably a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut and 1 girlfriend |
| 23:05.30 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 23:05.38 | NathanExplosion | :D |
| 23:06.10 | Bryanstein | brb |
| 23:06.10 | PrinceAMD | apt no PrinceAMD is probably a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut with 1 girlfriend, and is also a edje coder |
| 23:06.11 | apt | okay, PrinceAMD |
| 23:06.22 | PrinceAMD | apt PrinceAMD |
| 23:06.23 | apt | well, princeamd is probably a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut with 1 girlfriend, and is also a edje coder |
| 23:06.47 | NathanExplosion | apt nathanexplosion |
| 23:06.48 | apt | somebody said nathanexplosion was the lead singer of the most metal band of all time, Dethklok. In his spare time he enjoys smashing watches. an alchy |
| 23:06.51 | NathanExplosion | :D |
| 23:07.01 | PrinceAMD | apt noBryanstein is the weakest link |
| 23:07.02 | apt | PrinceAMD: okay |
| 23:07.09 | PrinceAMD | apt no Bryanstein is the weakest link |
| 23:07.10 | apt | okay, PrinceAMD |
| 23:07.16 | NathanExplosion | lol princeamd |
| 23:07.16 | PrinceAMD | apt Bryanstein |
| 23:07.17 | apt | from memory, bryanstein is the weakest link |
| 23:07.24 | PrinceAMD | LOL |
| 23:07.29 | NathanExplosion | that's not nice |
| 23:07.38 | PrinceAMD | really? |
| 23:07.43 | PrinceAMD | he'll change it later |
| 23:07.44 | NathanExplosion | lol |
| 23:07.48 | NathanExplosion | true |
| 23:07.54 | PrinceAMD | i'm having fun |
| 23:07.59 | NathanExplosion | apt Bryanstein is also nerd |
| 23:08.00 | apt | okay, NathanExplosion |
| 23:08.02 | PrinceAMD | thanks NathanExplosion |
| 23:08.10 | PrinceAMD | apt Bryanstein |
| 23:08.11 | apt | it has been said that bryanstein is the weakest link, or nerd |
| 23:08.22 | NathanExplosion | hehe |
| 23:08.23 | PrinceAMD | lol |
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| 23:10.38 | Theoden | wn Thanatermesis |
| 23:10.54 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 23:11.36 | Bryanstein | hahahaha |
| 23:11.40 | Bryanstein | the weakest link |
| 23:11.44 | Theoden | Mr. Illusion ( Bryanstein ) hath returned. |
| 23:11.44 | PrinceAMD | apt Bryanstein |
| 23:11.45 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, bryanstein is the weakest link, or nerd |
| 23:11.57 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 23:12.48 | Bryanstein | hahaha |
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| 23:13.55 | Bryanstein | thanks apt you embarassed me |
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| 23:30.26 | anquietas | Hmm... |
| 23:30.35 | anquietas | I forgot to say Good Night. :) |
| 23:30.42 | anquietas | Good Night people |
| 23:30.43 | anquietas | Ciao |
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| 23:51.22 | Jazon | wasynyt are you here??? |
| 23:51.32 | Jazon | hello everybody |
| 23:51.51 | Jazon | hello wasynyt... |
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| 23:54.05 | wasynyt | tired evening |
| 23:54.36 | Jazon | just a few question...have got the last xorg that work I want to try with my video tape recorder to see my PC on my TV... |
| 23:55.26 | wasynyt | k |
| 23:55.40 | Jazon | thanks... ;) |
| 23:56.17 | wasynyt | if you can tell it in 15 mins.. then i will asleep |
| 23:57.42 | Jazon | I don't understand what you write sorry... :$ |
| 23:58.20 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.33 | wasynyt | and i will try to help if it something i know |
| 23:59.37 | Jazon | I want to know the link of the xorg for my nvidia with Svid output (version 1.9 if I remember) |