IRC log for #elive on 20070820

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`00:27.03`	`elmo40`	`NathanExplosion: you did netcardconfig?`
`00:27.09`	`elmo40`	`what does lspci say?`
`00:27.21`	`elmo40`	`or lspcmcia, rather`
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`01:01.44`	`NathanExplosion`	`huhm? elmo40?`
`01:01.48`	`elmo40`	`boo`
`01:01.55`	`elmo40`	`did you reply to my msg?`
`01:02.00`	`elmo40`	`I missed it`
`01:02.17`	`NathanExplosion`	`no i did not see it until i noticed the irc task going nuts`
`01:02.23`	`NathanExplosion`	`netcardconfig?`
`01:03.29`	`elmo40`	`something like that`
`01:03.44`	`elmo40`	`but tell me what lspcmcia says, or at least lspci`
`01:04.26`	`NathanExplosion`	`Socket 0 Bridge: [yenta_cardbus] (bus ID: 0000:00:0a.0`
`01:05.08`	`anquietas`	`Uhm... what's the /opt/ directory good for?`
`01:05.36`	`NathanExplosion`	`magical happiness?`
`01:06.25`	`anquietas`	`Sadly not.`
`01:06.37`	`anquietas`	`Where should I install new programs to ?`
`01:06.46`	`NathanExplosion`	`/opt/`
`01:06.55`	`anquietas`	`Fine.`
`01:06.56`	`anquietas`	`^^`
`01:06.58`	`anquietas`	`Thanks.`
`01:06.59`	`NathanExplosion`	`lol`
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`01:07.08`	`anquietas`	`Greetings Bryanstein.`
`01:07.16`	`NathanExplosion`	`hey bryanstein`
`01:07.21`	`anquietas`	`My infinite source of wisdom and knowledge.`
`01:08.07`	`NathanExplosion`	`elmo40`
`01:08.22`	`NathanExplosion`	`why does lspcmcia do nothing?`
`01:09.22`	`elmo40`	`because it doesn't read anything?`
`01:09.43`	`NathanExplosion`	`someone yestday got something to read it, he had me paste this huge thing into a pastebin`
`01:09.52`	`NathanExplosion`	`and he said my card was broadcom?`
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`01:24.53`	`NathanExplosion`	`elmo40 i can view the wifi card info thru the hardware info manager`
`01:25.33`	`elmo40`	`nice`
`01:25.46`	`elmo40`	`and it says what, orinoco?`
`01:27.19`	`NathanExplosion`	`umm`
`01:28.20`	`NathanExplosion`	`for driver? your asking?`
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`01:29.49`	`elmo40`	`for info`
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`01:30.53`	`NathanExplosion`	`hold on, this guy on linuxmint channel might have the solution`
`01:31.24`	`elmo40`	`good... I hate pcmcia wifi problems :P`
`01:31.45`	`NathanExplosion`	`lol`
`01:31.51`	`NathanExplosion`	`i think this is going to work!!`
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`01:39.53`	`NicNac`	`did it work?`
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`01:41.09`	`NathanExplosion`	`close`
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`01:57.41`	`ggordon`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:57.59`	`rookmoot`	`haha`
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`02:05.16`	`elmo40`	`ggfreenode?`
`02:05.48`	`elmo40`	`simple enough, but soemthing I would not have chosen :P`
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`02:09.26`	`NathanExplosion`	`my password is the name of the first band i was in lol`
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`02:13.32`	`rookmoot`	`mine is my credit card number .oO`
`02:15.36`	`NathanExplosion`	`visa or mastercard?`
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`02:26.38`	`rookmoot`	`gold`
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`02:47.08`	`NathanExplosion`	`hello?`
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`03:18.20`	`NathanExplosion`	`begasus`
`03:18.23`	`NathanExplosion`	`apt begasus`
`03:18.33`	`Begasus`	`morning NathanExplosion`
`03:18.35`	`NathanExplosion`	`hmm so many people apt does not know`
`03:18.41`	`NathanExplosion`	`it's bedtime here`
`03:18.43`	`Begasus`	`;)`
`03:18.44`	`NathanExplosion`	`but morning`
`03:18.53`	`Begasus`	`it's actualy here too ...`
`03:19.02`	`Begasus`	`5:20 am`
`03:19.15`	`NathanExplosion`	`it is 10:20 pm here`
`03:19.43`	`Begasus`	`ow .. not nearly bedtime then ;)`
`03:20.03`	`NathanExplosion`	`yeah it supposed to be bedtime cause i have school at 6am`
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`03:20.37`	`Begasus`	`ah ;)`
`03:20.39`	`roxville`	`apt, make-eap`
`03:20.39`	`apt`	`somebody said make-eap was http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html`
`03:21.15`	`Begasus`	`morning roxville`
`03:21.22`	`NathanExplosion`	`yeah but i am stupid and i probably won't go to bed till it's too late`
`03:24.28`	`roxville`	`lol, morning Begasus`
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`03:24.52`	`roxville`	`Begasus, damn dude, you're up EARLY!`
`03:25.06`	`Begasus`	`yeah .. couldn't sleep anymore :s`
`03:27.02`	`NathanExplosion`	`lol`
`03:27.23`	`NathanExplosion`	`roxville you sounded like a teenage stoner when you said that`
`03:29.13`	`roxville`	`Theoden, LOL`
`03:29.26`	`Theoden`	`roxville: You are welcome.`
`03:29.27`	`Theoden`	`lol`
`03:29.47`	`roxville`	`lol NathanExplosion`
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`03:51.06`	`SilverRTW`	`hello`
`03:51.19`	`keyra`	`SilverRTW: hi`
`03:51.28`	`SilverRTW`	`anyone know how to get something to mount`
`03:51.46`	`SilverRTW`	`my Elive is saying that it cannot find the mount point for my Portable Hard Drive`
`03:51.59`	`SilverRTW`	`thanks for talking Keyra`
`03:52.39`	`SilverRTW`	`Hell0?`
`03:52.42`	`Bryanstein`	`20//25\\20//25\\20//25\\20//25\\24Bryanstein Says HELLO to everyone and hands out cookies to all in25#elive`
`03:52.46`	`Bryanstein`	`SilverRTW,`
`03:52.58`	`Begasus`	`'lo Bryanstein`
`03:52.59`	`Bryanstein`	`what is going on there`
`03:53.03`	`Begasus`	`hi SilverRTW`
`03:53.06`	`SilverRTW`	`hell0 could you help me mount something`
`03:53.15`	`Bryanstein`	`NathanExplosion, sorry I didn't answer you earlier`
`03:53.23`	`Begasus`	`haven't done that in ages myself ..`
`03:53.30`	`Bryanstein`	`just got back in from chopping down a tree`
`03:53.31`	`SilverRTW`	`my hard drive still wont mount`
`03:53.34`	`Begasus`	`to used with automounting ...`
`03:53.37`	`Bryanstein`	`ok SilverRTW`
`03:53.46`	`Bryanstein`	`what is the device name ?`
`03:53.54`	`Bryanstein`	`/dev/sda1?`
`03:54.00`	`SilverRTW`	`SDE1 is what it shows up as`
`03:54.03`	`NathanExplosion`	`bryanstein, it's cool no worries`
`03:54.14`	`Bryanstein`	`sde you sure`
`03:54.17`	`SilverRTW`	`on windows it is named Silver160gi`
`03:54.21`	`SilverRTW`	`yes`
`03:54.33`	`Bryanstein`	`hmmm what type is it ntfs?`
`03:54.38`	`SilverRTW`	`yes it is`
`03:54.49`	`Bryanstein`	`do you have elive installed ?`
`03:54.56`	`SilverRTW`	`yes I do`
`03:55.02`	`Bryanstein`	`this all should work fine by itself`
`03:55.10`	`SilverRTW`	`ok`
`03:55.12`	`Bryanstein`	`well do this ...`
`03:55.16`	`SilverRTW`	`k`
`03:55.24`	`Bryanstein`	`type mount`
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`03:55.43`	`Bryanstein`	`then paste any line you see that says ntfs3g in here`
`03:55.47`	`Bryanstein`	`but`
`03:55.49`	`Bryanstein`	`don't paste it all`
`03:56.09`	`SilverRTW`	`ok`
`03:56.47`	`SilverRTW`	`you lost me`
`03:56.56`	`SilverRTW`	`mount ntfs3g?`
`03:56.59`	`Bryanstein`	`ok go to the shell`
`03:57.04`	`SilverRTW`	`ok`
`03:57.05`	`Bryanstein`	`type mount`
`03:57.07`	`SilverRTW`	`ok`
`03:57.15`	`Bryanstein`	`and paste ANY line that says ntfs3g`
`03:57.18`	`Bryanstein`	`but none of the rest`
`03:57.34`	`Bryanstein`	`I don't want to see the whole mount output`
`03:57.40`	`SilverRTW`	`ok`
`03:57.51`	`Bryanstein`	`brb checkinh on clothers`
`03:59.19`	`SilverRTW`	`k`
`03:59.37`	`SilverRTW`	`there arnt any that say ntfs3g`
`04:00.03`	`Begasus`	`SilverRTW, did you check if it's mounted already or not?`
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`04:00.14`	`Begasus`	`something like this ...`
`04:00.22`	`SilverRTW`	`it is not it says it cannot find a mount point`
`04:00.38`	`Bryanstein`	`hmmm`
`04:00.38`	`Bryanstein`	`ok`
`04:00.39`	`Bryanstein`	`ummm`
`04:00.40`	`Begasus`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:01.04`	`Bryanstein`	`yes that is about right Begasus`
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`04:01.18`	`Bryanstein`	`but you have to create a mount point first`
`04:01.22`	`NathanExplosion`	`anyone used SongBird?`
`04:01.25`	`Bryanstein`	`but I want to know why it isn't working`
`04:01.27`	`Begasus`	`it's what I have here (windows_c) for sda1`
`04:01.32`	`Bryanstein`	`I have NathanExplosion`
`04:01.33`	`Begasus`	`no NathanExplosion`
`04:01.38`	`Begasus`	`read about it though`
`04:01.39`	`Bryanstein`	`SilverRTW,`
`04:01.47`	`SilverRTW`	`yes`
`04:01.49`	`Bryanstein`	`25right click this24 irc://bryanstein.info:6667/ELIVE 25then choose Connect as IRC server`
`04:02.04`	`NathanExplosion`	`is it any good Bryanstein?`
`04:02.11`	`Bryanstein`	`decent NathanExplosion`
`04:02.26`	`Bryanstein`	`it's kinda cool if you are a music freak`
`04:02.27`	`Begasus`	`does it work with the iTunes songs?`
`04:02.35`	`NathanExplosion`	`i am a music freak lol`
`04:02.46`	`Bryanstein`	`SilverRTW, do what the link says`
`04:03.25`	`SilverRTW`	`ok I am there`
`04:05.02`	`NathanExplosion`	`songbird does support ipods...`
`04:05.20`	`Begasus`	`well gtkpod also ;)`
`04:05.43`	`NathanExplosion`	`i don't own an iPod, problem solved lol`
`04:05.54`	`Begasus`	`lol`
`04:07.00`	`NathanExplosion`	`songbird looks like an itunes knock off lol`
`04:07.13`	`roxville`	`it's based on firefox`
`04:08.08`	`NathanExplosion`	`i'm not sure if i like it`
`04:08.38`	`roxville`	`noone's forcing you`
`04:08.47`	`NathanExplosion`	`HE IS`
`04:08.51`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`04:09.27`	`roxville`	`apt, cook banana for NathanExplosion`
`04:09.27`	`apt`	`ACTION puts on his apron and fires up the stove. "Your banana will be ready in a little while, NathanExplosion."`
`04:09.44`	`NathanExplosion`	`Oh, you're a banana cheif?`
`04:09.50`	`NathanExplosion`	`chef*`
`04:09.55`	`roxville`	`not me, apt is`
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`04:10.09`	`NathanExplosion`	`thenwhy are you holding a knife?`
`04:10.15`	`roxville`	`his banan ribs are to die for`
`04:10.40`	`roxville`	`because... you're the one dying :)`
`04:11.05`	`NathanExplosion`	`I was wondering why I couldn't breath...`
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`04:11.48`	`roxville`	`nah NathanExplosion relaaaaaax...`
`04:12.05`	`NathanExplosion`	`i love beryl's wobbly windows :D`
`04:12.39`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:12.40`	`Begasus`	`beryl is fun to play with ;)`
`04:12.55`	`NathanExplosion`	`hells yes`
`04:13.02`	`roxville`	`can you guys about something other than sex?`
`04:13.07`	`NathanExplosion`	`NO`
`04:13.08`	`roxville`	`poor beryl...`
`04:13.39`	`NathanExplosion`	`beryl likes being abused`
`04:14.18`	`Begasus`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/begasus/502113687/`
`04:15.05`	`NathanExplosion`	`can i do the 3d cube view with a lappy?`
`04:15.24`	`Begasus`	`if the hardware supports it`
`04:15.52`	`NathanExplosion`	`what would i press?`
`04:16.24`	`Begasus`	`Ctrl+Alt+left/right arrow`
`04:16.41`	`NathanExplosion`	`it only flips :(`
`04:16.42`	`Begasus`	`or Ctrl+Alt+left mouse and drag`
`04:16.49`	`NathanExplosion`	`i am not using a mouse`
`04:16.59`	`Begasus`	`touchpad?`
`04:17.02`	`NathanExplosion`	`yes`
`04:17.12`	`Begasus`	`haven't used it on a laptop`
`04:17.30`	`NathanExplosion`	`yeah i am trying to figure how to to go cube 3d with lappy`
`04:18.17`	`NathanExplosion`	`oh shit i did it`
`04:19.24`	`NathanExplosion`	`how did you make yours transparent?`
`04:19.48`	`Begasus`	`6 sides cube http://www.flickr.com/photos/begasus/502097120/in/photostream/`
`04:19.57`	`Begasus`	`beryl settings`
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`04:20.29`	`NathanExplosion`	`now they just need a beryl hypercube`
`04:20.46`	`Begasus`	`emerald settings then ;)`
`04:21.14`	`NathanExplosion`	`huh?`
`04:21.58`	`NathanExplosion`	`i am looking for that transparency option`
`04:22.20`	`Begasus`	`yeah .. should be in the configuration for emerald iirc`
`04:23.01`	`NathanExplosion`	`emerald manager not beryl settings manager?`
`04:23.24`	`Begasus`	`http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/beryl-bling.ars`
`04:23.53`	`Begasus`	`I don't have the system up and running anymore ...`
`04:23.58`	`Begasus`	`should reinstall it ..`
`04:26.10`	`Begasus`	`hmm probly is in the beryl settings that you need to look for it ...`
`04:26.20`	`Begasus`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/begasus/499408287/in/photostream/`
`04:26.37`	`Begasus`	`on the right desktop there you see the beryl configuration pannel`
`04:29.21`	`NathanExplosion`	`i found it. thanks.`
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`04:34.40`	`NathanExplosion`	`one last thing, how to get rid of the beryl image on the top and bottom?`
`04:36.04`	`Begasus`	`like that? http://www.flickr.com/photos/begasus/501876598/`
`04:36.22`	`Begasus`	`I think I just used transparancy there`
`04:36.47`	`NathanExplosion`	`you can completely take away the photo`
`04:37.10`	`NathanExplosion`	`now i wanna take a screenshot lol`
`04:37.19`	`Begasus`	`should an option there .. not sure wich one it was anymore :P`
`04:37.22`	`Begasus`	`hehe`
`04:38.34`	`NathanExplosion`	`whas is <control><super>button1 ?`
`04:39.17`	`Begasus`	`dunno`
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`04:39.27`	`NathanExplosion`	`that is the mouse shortcut to take screenshot`
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`04:40.49`	`Begasus`	`ah .. I used (k?)snapshot`
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`04:50.07`	`NathanExplosion`	`begasus i think you would like my desktop`
`04:50.29`	`Begasus`	`could very well be NathanExplosion .. but I like mine on ZETA more :P`
`04:50.47`	`NathanExplosion`	`zeta?`
`04:51.11`	`Begasus`	`yeah`
`04:51.23`	`Begasus`	`http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1171037095&size=o`
`04:51.33`	`Begasus`	`made the icon theme there myself ;)`
`04:53.24`	`NathanExplosion`	`snazzy`
`04:53.59`	`Begasus`	`;)`
`04:54.36`	`NathanExplosion`	`i am trying take a screenshot for you`
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`05:09.27`	`NathanExplosion`	`i've finally taken a snapshot lol`
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`05:12.34`	`NathanExplosion`	`http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v352/theresthatguy/?action=view&current=snapshot1.png`
`05:13.21`	`NathanExplosion`	`for you begasus`
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`05:30.01`	`Begasus`	`w00t NathanExplosion !`
`05:30.04`	`Begasus`	`you did it ;)`
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`07:51.18`	`Elive_user88`	`hi`
`07:51.54`	`Elive_user88`	`can anyone help me install automatix ???`
`07:52.51`	`Elive_user88`	`anyone ???`
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`09:57.53`	`anquietas`	`Greetings.`
`09:57.56`	`keyra`	`bagolight: hi`
`09:58.29`	`anquietas`	`Uhm... I don't really need the iBar, but ... I do want to know why it suddenly disappeared and refuses to return...`
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`09:59.19`	`anquietas`	`I tried to add a new icon and ... yes, that's what I did. Something seemingly went wrong and I did the iBar in.`
`09:59.37`	`anquietas`	`>.<`
`10:01.01`	`bagolight`	`??`
`10:02.04`	`bagolight`	`i have to go by by`
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`11:28.13`	`Tommy-`	`hi, how can i change a users name in elive?`
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`13:05.34`	`*** topic/#elive is Welcome to Elive \|\| MacBook users please join #elivemac \|\|::::::::::::::: Elive Gem is OUT :::::::::::::::::\|\| Some unofficial torrents serving up bad or malicious versions of elive, make sure to your version of Elive is a official one, verify the authencity with the signature shared with the iso \|\| Elive Gem Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCJ8QDfA95U`
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`13:32.30`	`Mtraker`	`hi`
`13:37.37`	`wizard123`	`hi :D`
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`13:46.34`	`Mtraker`	`why elive is etch? isn't better testing?`
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`13:59.47`	`wizard123`	`Mtraker: i have unstable :P`
`14:00.35`	`Mtraker`	`i've a problem with unstable. Cinelerra dont run, cinepaint dont run`
`14:00.37`	`Mtraker`	`:-(`
`14:00.59`	`wizard123`	`do you get any errors ?`
`14:01.30`	`wizard123`	`i gues that is caused by unsatisfied dependencies :`
`14:01.32`	`wizard123`	`:)`
`14:01.33`	`Mtraker`	`cinepaint i can't to install, because in the sources cinepaint-data it's other version`
`14:02.42`	`wizard123`	`heh, same here`
`14:03.11`	`Mtraker`	`and can do you install cinelerra in unstable version?`
`14:03.26`	`keyra`	`Mtraker: cinelerra r0cks!`
`14:03.43`	`wizard123`	`i don't have elive repos`
`14:03.47`	`wizard123`	`wait a second :)`
`14:05.59`	`wizard123`	`same`
`14:06.04`	`wizard123`	`unsatisfied deps`
`14:06.30`	`Mtraker`	`and i work with that programs`
`14:06.46`	`wizard123`	`and what with testing ?`
`14:07.39`	`Theoden`	`Perhaps that's why they call it 'unstable.'`
`14:07.45`	`wizard123`	`oops, somebody stepped on network wire :D`
`14:07.52`	`wizard123`	`Theoden: it's pretty stable for me`
`14:08.01`	`Theoden`	`That's good.`
`14:08.08`	`wizard123`	`but i have very basic installation (and very common)`
`14:08.28`	`Theoden`	`But those who complain that it doesn't run for them - should take note that they call it unstable for a reason.`
`14:08.48`	`wizard123`	`kde + oo.org + language packs + development tools + multimedia apps`
`14:08.56`	`wizard123`	`you're right`
`14:10.31`	`wizard123`	`hmm.. adept is very nice :) waay better than synaptic`
`14:10.47`	`keyra`	`wizard123: :)`
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`14:11.35`	`Mtraker`	`i return`
`14:13.27`	`wizard123`	`i see :P`
`14:14.28`	`Mtraker`	`where is thana?`
`14:17.21`	`wizard123`	`that is one of unsoved ancient mystries :D`
`14:17.26`	`wizard123`	`unsolved*`
`14:17.31`	`wizard123`	`.seen Thana`
`14:17.44`	`Mtraker`	`XD`
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`14:40.07`	`anquietas`	`Hm. Has anyone tried to install the Sun Studio 12 packages yet?`
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`16:22.17`	`Elive_user6`	`hi to all`
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`16:22.45`	`ZioMiP`	`there's anyone right here?`
`16:23.43`	`anquietas`	`Me?`
`16:23.50`	`ZioMiP`	`hi ^^`
`16:23.56`	`anquietas`	`Greetings. ^^`
`16:23.57`	`ZioMiP`	`I'm new to elive`
`16:24.13`	`wizard123`	`yes`
`16:24.13`	`Elive_user34`	`welcome to elive ZioMiP`
`16:24.15`	`anquietas`	`Elive is great. You'll have much fun with it.`
`16:24.21`	`ZioMiP`	`thanks ^^`
`16:24.24`	`ZioMiP`	`I think so ^^`
`16:24.30`	`ZioMiP`	`btw`
`16:24.51`	`ZioMiP`	`how can I perform an action on startup ?`
`16:24.59`	`anquietas`	`Don't be disappointed, should E17 crash at times, though... it's not stable yet. :) But it has been stable for me so far...`
`16:25.12`	`anquietas`	`An action on startup? What do you mean?`
`16:25.27`	`anquietas`	`An automatically executed command after log-in?`
`16:25.28`	`ZioMiP`	`I mean.. I just installed hamachi (vpn software) and I want to auto-start it auto-login and auto-join on a server`
`16:25.31`	`ZioMiP`	`sure`
`16:25.34`	`ZioMiP`	`that`
`16:25.58`	`anquietas`	`Heh... good question! I wanted to ask that, too. Does anyone know how to do that?`
`16:26.05`	`ZioMiP`	`^^`
`16:26.20`	`Elive_user34`	`if it is graphical you can open it and then alt click on the title bar and tell it to remember the program on start up`
`16:26.32`	`ZioMiP`	`it isn't`
`16:26.43`	`Elive_user34`	`you can add it to .elxstrt script`
`16:26.51`	`ZioMiP`	`.elxstrt script...`
`16:26.56`	`ZioMiP`	`where I can find it ?`
`16:27.00`	`Elive_user34`	`yes it is in your home dir`
`16:27.02`	`anquietas`	`Let's look for it... hold on...`
`16:27.05`	`Elive_user34`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:27.37`	`Elive_user34`	`make sure to put an & at the end of the command`
`16:27.39`	`Elive_user34`	`;)`
`16:27.45`	`ZioMiP`	`found`
`16:27.52`	`ZioMiP`	`elivenews & (is the last row)`
`16:28.05`	`Elive_user34`	`you found it`
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`16:28.17`	`anquietas`	`Yes.`
`16:28.18`	`Elive_user34`	`so just add your command to it with an & at the end`
`16:28.26`	`ZioMiP`	`ooooook ^^ that's lovelly`
`16:28.59`	`ZioMiP`	`ok ok`
`16:29.08`	`ZioMiP`	`now I need to reboot for test it :P`
`16:29.11`	`ZioMiP`	`wait for me ^^`
`16:29.26`	`Elive_user34`	`no`
`16:29.34`	`Elive_user34`	`you just need to log out and log in`
`16:29.42`	`ZioMiP`	`sure but I need to logout ^^`
`16:29.49`	`Elive_user34`	`right but not reboot`
`16:29.49`	`anquietas`	`No.`
`16:29.51`	`anquietas`	`Wait...`
`16:29.53`	`ZioMiP`	`ok ok`
`16:29.57`	`anquietas`	`You just have to execute it.`
`16:30.06`	`anquietas`	`Save and exit the file. Left click -> Execute.`
`16:30.13`	`anquietas`	`Will do the same...`
`16:30.24`	`anquietas`	`It works on my machine.`
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`16:31.33`	`kevin_`	`EHLO`
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`16:31.46`	`ZioMiP`	`ok`
`16:31.50`	`anquietas`	`Works?`
`16:31.52`	`ZioMiP`	`I'm looking if that work`
`16:32.04`	`ZioMiP`	`That work !!!`
`16:32.05`	`ZioMiP`	`^_^`
`16:32.07`	`ZioMiP`	`great ^^`
`16:32.11`	`anquietas`	`^^`
`16:32.13`	`Elive_user34`	`:)`
`16:32.18`	`ZioMiP`	`Thanks Elive_user34`
`16:32.19`	`ZioMiP`	`^_^`
`16:32.23`	`anquietas`	`Indeed.`
`16:32.25`	`Elive_user34`	`any time ZioMiP`
`16:32.45`	`ZioMiP`	`I want remove WinXp and install Elive to my daddy's computer XD`
`16:32.54`	`ZioMiP`	`I think I'll do that later`
`16:32.58`	`anquietas`	`Hehe.`
`16:33.19`	`ZioMiP`	`oh another question :P`
`16:33.44`	`ZioMiP`	`there's the possibility to put a "tag" on buttons on the downbar?`
`16:33.50`	`ZioMiP`	`I mean...`
`16:34.05`	`ZioMiP`	`when I go over an icon with the cursor the name of that icon appear`
`16:34.08`	`anquietas`	`A name?`
`16:35.11`	`anquietas`	`Ah, yes.`
`16:35.25`	`ZioMiP`	`lol the greatest thing is that Debian Etch 4.0 work on this laptop slow... I don't know why but Elive work better XD (instead is use Debian Etch XD)`
`16:35.39`	`keyra`	`ZioMiP: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !`
`16:35.39`	`ZioMiP`	`*it`
`16:35.43`	`ZioMiP`	`lol`
`16:36.00`	`ZioMiP`	`keyra, Elive is Debian like...`
`16:36.31`	`anquietas`	`keyra is a bot, ignore her.`
`16:36.36`	`ZioMiP`	`oh ok XD`
`16:36.39`	`ZioMiP`	`btw`
`16:36.45`	`anquietas`	`Where are you from, ZioMiP ?`
`16:36.45`	`keyra`	`anquietas: you think so ?`
`16:36.52`	`ZioMiP`	`lol`
`16:36.56`	`ZioMiP`	`I'm from North Italy`
`16:37.14`	`anquietas`	`You must be very young. :)`
`16:37.23`	`ZioMiP`	`24 y old`
`16:37.30`	`ZioMiP`	`or better`
`16:37.33`	`ZioMiP`	`24 on 31 aug :P`
`16:37.51`	`anquietas`	`Hehe.`
`16:38.47`	`ZioMiP`	`what about you?`
`16:38.57`	`anquietas`	`I'm from Hungary.`
`16:39.28`	`ZioMiP`	`^^`
`16:40.17`	`anquietas`	`^.^`
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`16:41.21`	`wizard123`	`guten tag :)`
`16:41.43`	`anquietas`	`Uhm, hello wizard123.`
`16:41.51`	`ZioMiP`	`hi wizard123`
`16:41.57`	`keyra`	`anquietas: hi`
`16:41.58`	`wizard123`	`:D`
`16:42.03`	`wizard123`	`what's up ?`
`16:42.11`	`anquietas`	`No news.`
`16:42.21`	`anquietas`	`We have a new Elive user. :D`
`16:42.30`	`ZioMiP`	`^_^`
`16:43.08`	`ZioMiP`	`I'm looking at this distribution as this --> O_O`
`16:43.42`	`anquietas`	`=D Have you been using Linux before?`
`16:43.46`	`ZioMiP`	`sure`
`16:44.00`	`ZioMiP`	`Debian, Ubuntu...`
`16:44.11`	`ZioMiP`	`a lil bit of Mandrake`
`16:44.14`	`ZioMiP`	`(not Mandriva)`
`16:44.15`	`keyra`	`ZioMiP: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !`
`16:44.22`	`ZioMiP`	`lol`
`16:44.40`	`ZioMiP`	`but I'm still a n00b :p`
`16:44.48`	`anquietas`	`Elive is my first distribution. :)`
`16:44.57`	`ZioMiP`	`oh lol ^^`
`16:45.10`	`ZioMiP`	`my first distro was Mandrake`
`16:45.17`	`anquietas`	`And shall be my last one. :D There's no better one.`
`16:45.20`	`ZioMiP`	`^^`
`16:45.29`	`ZioMiP`	`it depend on what you need to do...`
`16:45.48`	`anquietas`	`Hm. Elive seems to be quite an allrounder.`
`16:45.50`	`ZioMiP`	`for client-computer I'm looking that is really good`
`16:46.06`	`anquietas`	`I'm using it for pretty much everything.`
`16:46.18`	`anquietas`	`Programming, Papers, CAD/CAM, ... stuff`
`16:47.39`	`ZioMiP`	`^^`
`16:47.42`	`ZioMiP`	`cad/cam`
`16:47.46`	`ZioMiP`	`what do you use for ?`
`16:47.58`	`wizard123`	`hmm`
`16:48.06`	`anquietas`	`Have a look at http://alts.homelinux.net`
`16:48.08`	`wizard123`	`elive is gaining new fans :)`
`16:48.15`	`ZioMiP`	`sure`
`16:49.08`	`ZioMiP`	`ok guys`
`16:49.16`	`ZioMiP`	`I'm goin formatting my daddy's pc :P`
`16:49.19`	`ZioMiP`	`see you all layer :P`
`16:49.29`	`ZioMiP`	`from another Elive computer :P`
`16:49.46`	`anquietas`	`Ciao ciao`
`16:49.50`	`anquietas`	`Good Luck`
`16:49.54`	`ZioMiP`	`thanks ^^`
`16:51.30`	`anquietas`	`wizard123 ... the NetBeans IDE is great, by the way. :P`
`16:51.40`	`anquietas`	`Much better than Eclipse. =D`
`16:51.45`	`wizard123`	`hehe`
`16:51.59`	`wizard123`	`your opinion..`
`16:52.10`	`anquietas`	`Well, yes. :P`
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`16:55.49`	`wizard123`	`hmm..`
`16:56.06`	`wizard123`	`i've foud 3 years old powerbook`
`16:56.17`	`wizard123`	`17", ppc 1,5Ghz, 1,5GB ram..`
`16:56.22`	`anquietas`	`Looks good.`
`16:56.29`	`wizard123`	`i think it's worth buying`
`16:56.42`	`anquietas`	`How much ?`
`16:56.57`	`wizard123`	`hmm.. i have to check how much euro costs..`
`16:57.00`	`wizard123`	`wait a second`
`16:58.17`	`wizard123`	`810 euro`
`16:58.37`	`anquietas`	`I guess it's worth being bought`
`16:58.52`	`wizard123`	`me too`
`16:58.58`	`wizard123`	`but 3 years old..`
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`17:00.11`	`wasynyt`	`good evening people`
`17:00.17`	`Elive_user34`	`howdy wasynyt`
`17:00.20`	`anquietas`	`Hello wasynyt`
`17:00.49`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:01.45`	`wizard123`	`hehe`
`17:01.58`	`wizard123`	`hi wasynyt anquietas: less than 800 :D`
`17:02.08`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`17:02.18`	`anquietas`	`Buy it.`
`17:02.30`	`anquietas`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:04.22`	`anquietas`	`^_^`
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`17:12.36`	`wasynyt`	`time for restart`
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`17:15.43`	`Elive_user34`	`morning roxville`
`17:15.55`	`Theoden`	`wb roxville`
`17:16.25`	`Elive_user34`	`wb wasynyt`
`17:16.32`	`roxville`	`howdy guys/ghals`
`17:16.36`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:16.40`	`wasynyt`	`good evening roxville`
`17:16.48`	`anquietas`	`gals? There are no gals in here...`
`17:17.05`	`roxville`	`anq maybe not right now...`
`17:17.20`	`roxville`	`and maybe they don't have nicks that give them away...`
`17:17.26`	`anquietas`	`Hm. Possibly.`
`17:17.28`	`Theoden`	`ghouls`
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`17:22.46`	`roxville`	`brb, gotta test a couple of things`
`17:24.44`	`Theoden`	`hrumpf`
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`17:32.34`	`Detox_at_Work`	`hello all`
`17:32.48`	`keyra`	`Detox_at_Work: hi`
`17:32.56`	`Detox_at_Work`	`hi keyra`
`17:33.02`	`Detox_at_Work`	`keyra hi`
`17:33.10`	`keyra`	`Detox_at_Work: hi :)`
`17:33.37`	`anquietas`	`How can I decompile an edje file?`
`17:33.58`	`Detox_at_Work`	`sorry do not know`
`17:34.18`	`Theoden`	`anquietas: edje_dcc <FILENAME>`
`17:34.27`	`anquietas`	`Thanks.`
`17:34.31`	`Theoden`	`np`
`17:36.10`	`anquietas`	`^-^`
`17:36.13`	`Gwildor_work`	`;)`
`17:36.19`	`anquietas`	`Okay, and how can I compile an edje file?`
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`17:36.35`	`Theoden`	`After decompiling it and changing something?`
`17:36.53`	`anquietas`	`Yes.`
`17:37.12`	`Theoden`	`anquietas: Run the build script in it.`
`17:37.20`	`anquietas`	`It's empty.`
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`17:37.34`	`Theoden`	`Then yuou didn't decompile it.`
`17:40.17`	`Theoden`	`anquietas: My mistake - edje_decc <filename>`
`17:41.05`	`anquietas`	`Okay. Compilation worked.`
`17:41.44`	`anquietas`	`Where do I have to put the edje file for Enlightenment 17 to recognize it as a static background?`
`17:42.10`	`Theoden`	`~/.e/e/backgrounds I believe`
`17:42.17`	`anquietas`	`That doesn't work.`
`17:42.26`	`anquietas`	`Neither with original edje files, nor with self made ones.`
`17:42.50`	`Theoden`	`This the new E17? or the one in Elive?`
`17:43.12`	`anquietas`	`The one in Elive.`
`17:43.38`	`Theoden`	`That's where I put mine.`
`17:43.51`	`anquietas`	`And how do you load them?`
`17:43.53`	`Theoden`	`WHen you choose a background - you have to change it to personal`
`17:44.07`	`anquietas`	`Hmhm. How?`
`17:44.12`	`Elive_user34`	`anquietas, where did you get the background?`
`17:44.19`	`anquietas`	`get-e.com`
`17:44.32`	`Elive_user34`	`what version of e17?`
`17:45.05`	`Elive_user34`	`click on the desktop > about enlightenment`
`17:45.08`	`Theoden`	`He said the one that comes with elive`
`17:45.34`	`Elive_user34`	`well if it is the default version then the background wont work until you edit it`
`17:45.47`	`Elive_user34`	`its a simple edit i can tell you how to do if you want`
`17:46.00`	`Elive_user34`	`there were a lot of changes since elives default e17 version`
`17:46.44`	`Theoden`	`Yes - the edit it easy.`
`17:46.46`	`anquietas`	`0.16.999.026`
`17:46.55`	`Elive_user34`	`anquietas, ok thats the default`
`17:47.06`	`Elive_user34`	`do you want to know how to edit it?`
`17:47.10`	`anquietas`	`Yes, please. =D`
`17:47.23`	`Elive_user34`	`edje_decc bg.edj`
`17:47.30`	`Elive_user34`	`cd into the resulting directory`
`17:47.35`	`anquietas`	`Yes.`
`17:47.50`	`Elive_user34`	`open the .edc file`
`17:48.54`	`anquietas`	`Yes.`
`17:50.04`	`Elive_user34`	`one sec...`
`17:50.22`	`Elive_user34`	`i have to find the right line... im testing something and dont have edje_decc just yet`
`17:50.41`	`Elive_user34`	`says something like /desktop/backgound`
`17:51.51`	`Elive_user34`	`e/desktop/background`
`17:51.52`	`Elive_user34`	`that`
`17:51.56`	`Elive_user34`	`do you see that in the file?`
`17:52.15`	`Elive_user34`	`group { name: "e/desktop/background";`
`17:52.23`	`anquietas`	`Yes.`
`17:52.26`	`Elive_user34`	`remove the e/ so it looks like this`
`17:52.28`	`Elive_user34`	`group { name: "desktop/background";`
`17:52.37`	`Elive_user34`	`save the file and then run the build script in the dir`
`17:52.51`	`Elive_user34`	`it will produce a .edj file in the dir... use that one`
`17:53.08`	`Elive_user34`	`brb... have to crash e17 right quick`
`17:53.49`	`anquietas`	`=D`
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`17:54.46`	`anquietas`	`I love you. =D`
`17:54.49`	`anquietas`	`I worked.`
`17:54.52`	`anquietas`	`<It>`
`17:54.56`	`Elive_user34`	`:)`
`17:55.00`	`Elive_user34`	`glad i could help`
`17:55.04`	`anquietas`	`Thank you very much.`
`17:55.08`	`Elive_user34`	`anytime`
`17:55.08`	`anquietas`	`What caused the problem?`
`17:55.17`	`Elive_user34`	`changes in e17`
`17:55.32`	`anquietas`	`Does it make sense to update E17?`
`17:55.43`	`anquietas`	`The newer versions aren't more stable, I assume...`
`17:55.49`	`Elive_user34`	`i prefer to update to the ones in tests`
`17:56.01`	`Elive_user34`	`but thats me`
`17:56.02`	`Elive_user34`	`:)`
`17:56.07`	`anquietas`	`Hm, yes.`
`17:56.16`	`anquietas`	`How can I update it?`
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`17:57.50`	`Elive_user34`	`first things you should know.... .exlstrt will not work by default you have to set it up again, all of your e17 settings will be set to default... entrance may act up though if you use the defaulte17 theme it generally works`
`17:58.04`	`keyra`	`Elive_user34: don't worry, this is planned for the next iso ;)`
`17:58.34`	`anquietas`	`When does the stable release come?`
`17:58.42`	`Elive_user34`	`stable?`
`17:58.45`	`Elive_user34`	`of e17?`
`17:58.47`	`anquietas`	`Yes.`
`17:58.48`	`Elive_user34`	`nobody knows`
`17:58.53`	`Elive_user34`	`e17 is still pre-alpha`
`17:59.26`	`Elive_user34`	`to do it enable the elive tests repo by adding the word tests to the end of the elive repo line in /etc/apt/sources apt-get update apt-get install e17 (MAKE SURE that entrance is set to use the default e17 theme)`
`17:59.40`	`keyra`	`Elive_user34: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository`
`17:59.40`	`Detox_at_Work`	`what does anyone know about x11vnc? when I log into my elive pc .. i cannot operate anything`
`18:00.29`	`anquietas`	`Thanks, Elive_user34. I shall try it - Though not on this machine.`
`18:00.42`	`anquietas`	`It works well now. I don't want to mess it up. :P`
`18:00.50`	`Elive_user34`	`anquietas, when you first restart e it will probably crash... tell it to exit and relog in`
`18:00.53`	`Theoden`	`Good luck`
`18:01.10`	`anquietas`	`Fine. :)`
`18:01.24`	`anquietas`	`Thanks Theoden ...`
`18:01.31`	`Theoden`	`yw`
`18:01.39`	`anquietas`	`Heh =D`
`18:01.51`	`Elive_user34`	`if entrance fails to start up check that /usr/share/entrance/themes/default.edj is pointing to /usr/share/entrance/themes/e17-default.edj`
`18:02.19`	`anquietas`	`Okay. :)`
`18:03.07`	`Elive_user34`	`and if for somereason it still dont work dont just freak out and reinstall... talk to me first`
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`18:03.38`	`Gwildor_work`	`:P`
`18:03.41`	`Gwildor_work`	`wb GPLGeek`
`18:03.58`	`GPLGeek`	`i need to go get some food....`
`18:04.27`	`Elive_user34`	`however at the moment i must go... hell(aka school) has started up again`
`18:04.40`	`anquietas`	`I shall do so, Elive_user34. =D Thanks for your assistance`
`18:04.45`	`anquietas`	`Fine.`
`18:04.46`	`Elive_user34`	`no problem`
`18:04.47`	`anquietas`	`Have fun`
`18:04.52`	`Elive_user34`	`heh`
`18:04.53`	`Elive_user34`	`ill try`
`18:04.56`	`anquietas`	`Ciao :)`
`18:04.57`	`anquietas`	`Hehe`
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`18:13.18`	`Detox_at_Work`	`Gwildor....... help`
`18:13.35`	`Gwildor_work`	`with?`
`18:13.45`	`Detox_at_Work`	`x11vnc`
`18:14.02`	`Gwildor_work`	`not my bag, mate`
`18:14.04`	`Detox_at_Work`	`somenting happened and now when i logg in i cnnot type anything`
`18:14.07`	`Detox_at_Work`	`arrrgggggg`
`18:14.21`	`Detox_at_Work`	`tried tyo remove and was warned that elpanl uses it`
`18:14.50`	`Detox_at_Work`	`how do I force install with apt?? apt-get -f xxxxx?`
`18:16.33`	`Gwildor_work`	`ya, -f is force`
`18:16.46`	`Detox_at_Work`	`hmmm on will try again`
`18:17.31`	`Detox_at_Work`	`says is newest ver`
`18:17.36`	`Detox_at_Work`	`will not go father`
`18:17.39`	`Detox_at_Work`	`crud`
`18:19.44`	`Pacma`	`como habilito el modulo de lectura de temperatura de la cpu uso un amd64`
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`18:20.24`	`Pacma`	`como habilito el modulo de lectura de temperatura de la cpu uso un amd64`
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`18:22.48`	`Elive_user38`	`hola`
`18:22.52`	`Elive_user38`	`hay alguien?`
`18:22.52`	`Pacma`	`hola`
`18:22.59`	`Elive_user38`	`como va?`
`18:23.03`	`keyra`	`Elive_user38: que tal ?`
`18:23.09`	`Elive_user38`	`:D`
`18:23.13`	`Pacma`	`keyra: sabes algo de lo que pregunte`
`18:23.18`	`Pacma`	`como habilito el modulo de lectura de temperatura de la cpu uso un amd64`
`18:23.21`	`Elive_user38`	`bien bien hace dos dias que uso Elive y esoty muy contento`
`18:23.29`	`Pacma`	`he instalado un paquete de lm_sensors`
`18:23.45`	`Pacma`	`pero el gmkrll ni se inmuta`
`18:23.45`	`Elive_user38`	`no pacman`
`18:23.52`	`Elive_user38`	`sorry ni idea soy mas que nuevo xD`
`18:24.02`	`Pacma`	`tranquilo se lo preguntava a keyra`
`18:24.11`	`Elive_user38`	`ah oki`
`18:26.21`	`Elive_user38`	`les puedo hacer una pregunta?`
`18:26.31`	`Elive_user38`	`q programa es el mejorcito para ver dvds?`
`18:26.50`	`Pacma`	`yo uso el oxigen`
`18:27.39`	`Elive_user38`	`saben de donde puedo bajarme o leer el manual de este programa?`
`18:28.17`	`Pacma`	`ese programa ya lo lleva`
`18:28.40`	`Pacma`	`wn video se llam oxine player`
`18:28.57`	`Elive_user38`	`jajaj oki, si lo estoy revisando,por todos lados xD`
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`18:33.43`	`Elive_user38`	`son todos de habla hispana?`
`18:33.51`	`Spiffy`	`Sagde du svin ?`
`18:34.38`	`roxville`	`nej det var jag som sade det...`
`18:35.15`	`egrub`	`Elive_user38, algunos hablan español`
`18:35.33`	`egrub`	`Ezep, estas usando elive o que? :p`
`18:35.44`	`Elive_user38`	`jajaja`
`18:35.57`	`Elive_user38`	`gracias xD,e suqe soy nuevillo por aqui`
`18:35.59`	`Ezep`	`egrub: siempre estoy aca :), pero suelo virtualizarlo`
`18:36.10`	`egrub`	`Elive_user38, bienvenido!`
`18:36.31`	`Pindapoy`	`:O`
`18:36.38`	`Pindapoy`	`oki`
`18:36.51`	`Pindapoy`	`estoy probando el elive y estoy enamorado de el xD`
`18:37.19`	`Pindapoy`	`ahora estaba leyendo en una pagina web sobre algunos comandos, sobre este programa xD q no lo conosco`
`18:37.45`	`egrub`	`Ya veo`
`18:38.32`	`Pindapoy`	`tu?, por lo que veo no eres nuevo en este programa no? :$`
`18:39.02`	`egrub`	`No soy nuevo.`
`18:39.11`	`egrub`	`Hace 7 años uso GNU/Linux`
`18:39.23`	`Pindapoy`	`:O`
`18:39.25`	`Pindapoy`	`wow`
`18:39.29`	`Pindapoy`	`eso es tiempo,`
`18:39.34`	`egrub`	`Siç`
`18:39.52`	`Ezep`	`Pindapoy: no es un programa, es un sistema operativo con todo lo que esto respecta`
`18:40.20`	`egrub`	`Pindapoy, GNU hace programas licencia de GPL`
`18:40.37`	`egrub`	`Pindapoy, Linux es un sistema operativo con licencia libre.`
`18:40.55`	`egrub`	`En total son GNU/Linux`
`18:41.29`	`Pindapoy`	`si`
`18:41.39`	`Pindapoy`	`eso estube leyendo es la costumbre vio?`
`18:41.52`	`Pacma`	`egrub: sabes algo de habilitar el modo de temperatura de cpu en amd`
`18:42.10`	`egrub`	`Pacma, man lm_sensors`
`18:42.29`	`Pacma`	`ya lo instale`
`18:42.41`	`egrub`	`Pacma, $man lm_sensors`
`18:42.46`	`egrub`	`Ahi te explican`
`18:43.13`	`Pacma`	`pero ni en configuraciones cuando habilito ni en el gkrellm me van`
`18:43.24`	`Pacma`	`en ~man lm_sensor`
`18:43.35`	`Pacma`	`en &man lm_sensor`
`18:43.40`	`egrub`	`Pacma, apt-get install gkrellm-sensors algo así`
`18:43.42`	`Pindapoy`	`egrub, q distribucion de gnu/linux usas?`
`18:43.44`	`Pacma`	`huy que lio con el teclado`
`18:43.51`	`egrub`	`Pacma, #apt-cache search gkrellm`
`18:43.56`	`Pacma`	`si si eso si`
`18:43.57`	`egrub`	`Ahi lo encontrarás`
`18:44.08`	`egrub`	`Pindapoy, Archlinux`
`18:46.00`	`Pindapoy`	`oki`
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`18:50.20`	`Pacma`	`alguno de aqui usais amd64?`
`18:51.52`	`Pindapoy`	`yop`
`18:52.03`	`Pindapoy`	`pero dudo mucho q te sirva de algo`
`18:52.11`	`Pindapoy`	`:(`
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`18:58.36`	`Pacma`	`es para saber si tiens controlador de frecuencia`
`18:58.40`	`Pacma`	`o lo has usado`
`18:59.21`	`Pindapoy`	`lo vi, pero lo saque xD, ahora que te leo, veo que lo quieres hacer funcionar, pero no, no lo he llegado a usar... todavia`
`18:59.24`	`Pindapoy`	`si se algo te aviso`
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`19:28.32`	`Pindapoy`	`alguien me podria decir dos buenos programas, para escuchar musica y ver dvd?`
`19:28.54`	`Ezep`	`totem y amarok`
`19:32.41`	`Pindapoy`	`gracias`
`19:33.33`	`Pindapoy`	`y saben como puedo hacer andar mis parlantes 5.1?, se pueden hacer andar?`
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`19:39.21`	`ElemonGW`	`damn i hate the default terminal & file manager why can't elive have others??? :(`
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`19:39.36`	`ElemonGW`	`stfu keyra`
`19:39.37`	`ElemonGW`	`i am sure`
`19:39.41`	`ElemonGW`	`you will speak :)`
`19:40.40`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:41.37`	`wasynyt`	`you can install others but those might have big libs (kde & gnome) required..`
`19:41.48`	`ElemonGW`	`yes i know`
`19:42.09`	`ElemonGW`	`but i am just wondering why elive hasn't others installed?`
`19:42.15`	`ElemonGW`	`i don't like the default ones`
`19:42.18`	`wasynyt`	`well you have power of debian behind you.. so use synaptic to browse thru`
`19:42.25`	`wasynyt`	`nah one need one app`
`19:42.33`	`wasynyt`	`it is 1 cd distro`
`19:42.40`	`wasynyt`	`so it cannot have all the apps`
`19:42.51`	`wasynyt`	`even when those are only about 1 meg`
`19:42.57`	`Detox_at_Work`	`help with vnc`
`19:43.14`	`Detox_at_Work`	`plz`
`19:43.29`	`wasynyt`	`i have no knowledge in vnc`
`19:43.30`	`ElemonGW`	`i am currenlty trying pcmanfm for a file manager`
`19:43.30`	`ElemonGW`	`.....`
`19:43.51`	`wasynyt`	`humms`
`19:43.56`	`Detox_at_Work`	`not`
`19:44.29`	`ElemonGW`	`i think i will stick with it`
`19:44.30`	`ElemonGW`	`it is good`
`19:44.40`	`ElemonGW`	`has the features i want`
`19:44.48`	`ElemonGW`	`and doesn't require anything`
`19:44.53`	`ElemonGW`	`"crazy"`
`19:44.54`	`wasynyt`	`then go ahead and use :D`
`19:45.07`	`ElemonGW`	`now let's see for terminal...`
`19:45.18`	`ElemonGW`	`i don't think that i will be very lucky there`
`19:45.39`	`wasynyt`	`humm why so ?`
`19:46.17`	`ElemonGW`	`cause i haven't found any which seems to be good yet intergrate well with elive`
`19:46.25`	`ElemonGW`	`and e17 in general`
`19:46.33`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`19:46.37`	`wasynyt`	`well that is one thing`
`19:47.10`	`ElemonGW`	`i haven't tried any :) but from screenshots they don't seems to follow the phylosophy of e17`
`19:47.19`	`ElemonGW`	`btw., i haven't found any in fact :)`
`19:47.21`	`ElemonGW`	`only one`
`19:47.24`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`19:47.33`	`ElemonGW`	`the others are gnome's kde's and xfce's`
`19:47.48`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
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`19:51.02`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`hello`
`19:51.17`	`keyra`	`Marty_Kubuntu: hi`
`19:52.00`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`i've got some .edj background wallpaper. but i don't know how to use them with e17`
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`19:52.27`	`ZioMiP`	`ok, I'm back`
`19:52.31`	`ZioMiP`	`^_^ hi to all`
`19:52.36`	`ElemonGW`	`which are elive's default fonts?`
`19:53.04`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`Elive_user17: vera`
`19:53.13`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ElemonGW: vera font`
`19:54.05`	`ElemonGW`	`thnx`
`19:55.10`	`ZioMiP`	`I have a trouble... I got Elive on a DVD... but I need to install that on a computer that do not mount dvd drive -.-' where I can download an official iso ?`
`19:55.10`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`how can i use animated background ?`
`19:55.24`	`keyra`	`ZioMiP: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol`
`19:55.35`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ZioMiP: do you have floppy drive ?`
`19:55.43`	`ZioMiP`	`lol yes`
`19:55.54`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ZioMiP: use smart boot manager`
`19:55.57`	`ElemonGW`	`xfce 's terminal emulator is not very good in interface customization :(`
`19:56.07`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`it ll start on your dvd`
`19:56.15`	`ZioMiP`	`no... wait...`
`19:56.23`	`ZioMiP`	`I do not have a dvd drive on that computer..`
`19:56.29`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ok`
`19:56.32`	`wasynyt`	`;P`
`19:56.36`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`so download elive cd :)`
`19:56.43`	`ZioMiP`	`from where? ^_^`
`19:56.51`	`keyra`	`Marty_Kubuntu: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol`
`19:59.54`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ZioMiP: http://btjunkie.org/search?q=elive`
`20:01.53`	`NathanExplosion`	`marty mcfly?`
`20:02.25`	`ZioMiP`	`the first one do not work :S`
`20:03.51`	`ZioMiP`	`Marty_Kubuntu, the first torrent gave me "missing key" error`
`20:04.11`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ZioMiP: try others`
`20:04.36`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`i got my elive into a ftp but it's gone`
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`20:09.11`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ZioMiP: http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/21923477/elive`
`20:10.47`	`ZioMiP`	`ok ok is going`
`20:10.55`	`ZioMiP`	`ty`
`20:11.13`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`so anyone knows how to use background animated ?`
`20:14.42`	`Ezep`	`rainbyte: no encuentro las opciones`
`20:14.46`	`Ezep`	`ups`
`20:14.55`	`Ezep`	`wrong channel :P`
`20:15.04`	`ZioMiP`	`^^`
`20:15.11`	`ZioMiP`	`Marty_Kubuntu, what do you mean ?`
`20:16.20`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ZioMiP: i have .edj background but i don't how to put it in my desktop`
`20:17.23`	`ZioMiP`	`had you tried in the simplest way?`
`20:17.35`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`which one ?`
`20:17.52`	`ZioMiP`	`Configuration Panel - Background`
`20:17.59`	`ZioMiP`	`and then load the .edj ?`
`20:18.06`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`how ?`
`20:18.30`	`ZioMiP`	`left-click on the desktop...Configuratino -> Panel -> Background`
`20:18.31`	`ZioMiP`	`no '`
`20:18.31`	`ZioMiP`	`?`
`20:18.37`	`ZioMiP`	`*Configuration`
`20:19.00`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ok`
`20:19.18`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`and ?`
`20:19.36`	`ZioMiP`	`add a background`
`20:20.41`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`i select mybackground.edj but 'ok' button still stay hide`
`20:20.49`	`ZioMiP`	`umh, ok, wait`
`20:21.24`	`ZioMiP`	`ok you need to open a sheel`
`20:21.27`	`ZioMiP`	`*shell`
`20:21.41`	`ZioMiP`	`and go on ~/.e/e/themes`
`20:21.51`	`ZioMiP`	`and put in the .edj file`
`20:22.05`	`ZioMiP`	`then from the menu Configuration -> themes`
`20:22.07`	`ZioMiP`	`use it :P`
`20:22.48`	`wizard123`	`arr..`
`20:23.51`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`ZioMiP: i did what you write but no new background appear`
`20:24.23`	`ZioMiP`	`umh...`
`20:25.01`	`ZioMiP`	`I'm trying to doing that :P`
`20:29.04`	`ZioMiP`	`umh...`
`20:29.09`	`ZioMiP`	`that's not cool...`
`20:30.13`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`nop`
`20:31.03`	`ZioMiP`	`it doesn't work for me too`
`20:33.15`	`ZioMiP`	`Marty`
`20:33.20`	`ZioMiP`	`try with`
`20:33.31`	`ZioMiP`	`apt-cache search e17-theme`
`20:33.32`	`ZioMiP`	`^^`
`20:33.37`	`ZioMiP`	`and then install from there`
`20:34.18`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`but this is not a theme`
`20:34.27`	`ZioMiP`	`oh ok ok`
`20:34.31`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`it is a animated background`
`20:34.36`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`an*`
`20:34.39`	`ZioMiP`	`ok ok`
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`20:35.44`	`wizard123`	`hello all :) (again)`
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`20:35.59`	`keyra`	`wizard123: hi`
`20:36.08`	`ZioMiP`	`hi`
`20:36.11`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`too bad`
`20:36.16`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`i give up`
`20:36.22`	`NathanExplosion`	`anyone here good with wifi cards?`
`20:36.52`	`Marty_Kubuntu`	`thanks`
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`20:38.25`	`ZioMiP`	`anyone know a good software for my logitech webcam? XD`
`20:39.54`	`NathanExplosion`	`software or driver?`
`20:40.27`	`anquietas`	`Hello.`
`20:40.30`	`anquietas`	`Hey ZioMiP`
`20:40.32`	`wizard123`	`hello anquietas`
`20:40.35`	`anquietas`	`^-^`
`20:40.39`	`ZioMiP`	`anquietas, ^^ hi ^^`
`20:40.58`	`NathanExplosion`	`so none y'all good with wifi?`
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`20:41.06`	`anquietas`	`NathanExplosion ... yo, me.`
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`20:41.21`	`wizard123`	`hehe`
`20:41.24`	`wizard123`	`me not :P`
`20:41.30`	`NathanExplosion`	`i've got my wifi card working but only if there is no ecryption`
`20:41.46`	`anquietas`	`That's the restriction ... yup, ndiswrapper can't handle it.`
`20:42.01`	`keyra`	`anquietas: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Ndiswrapper`
`20:42.09`	`NathanExplosion`	`okay so what do i do?`
`20:42.17`	`anquietas`	`No encryption.`
`20:42.19`	`anquietas`	`:P`
`20:42.28`	`wizard123`	`'get up.. stand up.. don't give up the fight..'`
`20:42.31`	`NathanExplosion`	`no i mean how do i configure to use encrpytion?`
`20:42.46`	`anquietas`	`You ... can't, I guess.`
`20:42.58`	`NathanExplosion`	`some help you are :P jk`
`20:43.07`	`anquietas`	`I know.`
`20:43.11`	`anquietas`	`Sorry. :(`
`20:43.51`	`NathanExplosion`	`dude no worries, i spent 3 days figuring out just how to get the damn thing working`
`20:43.51`	`anquietas`	`Ah, NathanExplosion, by the way - I figured out that the xset m <val> command doesn't auto-execute itself at log-in. You have to modify a file to do that.`
`20:43.57`	`NathanExplosion`	`so i'm feeling more confident`
`20:44.26`	`NathanExplosion`	`modify the xorg file?`
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`20:44.49`	`anquietas`	`No. Hold on...`
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`20:45.07`	`Detox_at_Work`	`help with vnc???`
`20:45.10`	`Detox_at_Work`	`plz??`
`20:45.19`	`wizard123`	`NathanExplosion: no, not xorg`
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`20:45.28`	`anquietas`	`The file is called /home/username/.elxstrt`
`20:45.31`	`wizard123`	`one of your x startup scripts`
`20:45.38`	`wizard123`	`for example ;)`
`20:45.39`	`NathanExplosion`	`wizard123 or anquietas how much should i charge someone to install linux ontotheir laptop and 3 days of a frusterating wifi card driver install?`
`20:45.41`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, whats wrong w/ ur vnc?`
`20:45.54`	`keyra`	`NathanExplosion: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff`
`20:46.03`	`NathanExplosion`	`thanks for the tip wizard123`
`20:46.03`	`Detox_at_Work`	`log in ok ,,, but mouse / kb inop`
`20:46.05`	`everspawn`	`i got a apt-get question to throw out there...`
`20:46.07`	`Detox_at_Work`	`from remote`
`20:46.10`	`anquietas`	`Add "xset m <value> &" as the last line of the file to make the function auto-execute at startup.`
`20:46.20`	`ZioMiP`	`I got to go`
`20:46.21`	`wizard123`	`NathanExplosion: i don't know, few beers :P ?`
`20:46.23`	`ZioMiP`	`see ya all ^^`
`20:46.26`	`anquietas`	`Ciao ciao ZioMiP`
`20:46.27`	`ZioMiP`	`and good Elive to all ^^`
`20:46.29`	`ZioMiP`	`^_^`
`20:46.31`	`anquietas`	`^_^`
`20:46.32`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, is it possible you didnt make those settings on the host?`
`20:46.44`	`everspawn`	`i put apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade in my crontab`
`20:46.50`	`NathanExplosion`	`a case of beer wizard123?`
`20:46.57`	`Detox_at_Work`	`na jsut type in x11vnc on host pc worked fine until last week`
`20:47.08`	`Detox_at_Work`	`did upgrede`
`20:47.12`	`everspawn`	`how can I tell if it is working & when the last update occurred?`
`20:47.14`	`wizard123`	`& is unneeded, anquietas`
`20:47.25`	`Detox_at_Work`	`now a whole paragraph of stuff is 'held back'`
`20:47.27`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, mebbe remove the x11vnc config file, let a new one be generated by new version?`
`20:47.40`	`Detox_at_Work`	`hmm`
`20:47.41`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, ahh, that idk... im not a vnc user`
`20:47.47`	`anquietas`	`True, but it looks more complex and I can feel more intelligent. That's why I put the & at the end of the line... wizard123.`
`20:47.55`	`wizard123`	`:D`
`20:47.59`	`Detox_at_Work`	`tried to uninstall with dpkg but elive will not let me`
`20:48.06`	`Gwildor_work`	`-f!`
`20:48.09`	`wizard123`	`Detox_at_Work: why ?`
`20:48.14`	`Detox_at_Work`	`dont knopw`
`20:48.19`	`Detox_at_Work`	`says elive is using it`
`20:48.23`	`Detox_at_Work`	`in elpanel`
`20:48.35`	`Detox_at_Work`	`using 'top' is not running`
`20:48.54`	`NathanExplosion`	`apt Gwildor`
`20:48.55`	`apt`	`from memory, gwildor is the leader of the revolution against the evil bots and their infamous leader Keyra`
`20:48.59`	`Detox_at_Work`	`jsut dont know`
`20:49.03`	`wizard123`	`:]`
`20:49.12`	`wizard123`	`Gwildor_work: :D`
`20:49.25`	`Gwildor_work`	`:D`
`20:49.28`	`Detox_at_Work`	`after all log off later tonight.. will do apt upgrade`
`20:49.40`	`Detox_at_Work`	`dist-upgrade`
`20:49.49`	`NathanExplosion`	`gwildor_work guess what`
`20:49.55`	`Gwildor_work`	`su && killall x11vnc && apt-get remove x11vnc`
`20:49.59`	`Detox_at_Work`	`tried upgrade and got a whole paragraph of stuff 'held back'`
`20:50.06`	`Gwildor_work`	`what NathanExplosion ?`
`20:50.16`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, that was to you`
`20:50.32`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, mebbe lolcat hijacked your session?~?`
`20:50.33`	`NathanExplosion`	`I got the wifi card towork!!`
`20:50.33`	`Begasus`	`g'night peeps`
`20:50.39`	`Gwildor_work`	`NathanExplosion, HOW!?!?`
`20:50.52`	`Gwildor_work`	`NathanExplosion, thats awesome, man... osrry i coudltn help more`
`20:51.10`	`NathanExplosion`	`i found this guide for wifi cards with my chipset`
`20:51.14`	`Gwildor_work`	`sorry i cant type either`
`20:51.19`	`NathanExplosion`	`no worries mate`
`20:51.21`	`Gwildor_work`	`what module you end up with?`
`20:51.35`	`NathanExplosion`	`bwm5l something like that`
`20:51.47`	`Gwildor_work`	`broadcom?`
`20:51.52`	`NathanExplosion`	`yes`
`20:52.01`	`Gwildor_work`	`thought it was version3.... == prism2 afaik`
`20:52.09`	`Detox_at_Work`	`says"""" the following packages will be REMOVED : elpanel x11vnc`
`20:52.12`	`NathanExplosion`	`bcmwl5.inf`
`20:52.34`	`Gwildor_work`	`.inf... ndiswrapper?`
`20:52.44`	`Detox_at_Work`	`yup`
`20:52.44`	`NathanExplosion`	`yes`
`20:52.49`	`keyra`	`Gwildor_work: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Ndiswrapper`
`20:52.51`	`Detox_at_Work`	`oh well`
`20:52.58`	`Detox_at_Work`	`who is the vnc guru?`
`20:53.00`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, idk man, idk.`
`20:53.07`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, let em get removed, then re-install them`
`20:53.20`	`Gwildor_work`	`NathanExplosion, well, i told ya we would get it with ndiswrapper :P`
`20:53.21`	`Detox_at_Work`	`i can reinstall elpanel?`
`20:53.31`	`Gwildor_work`	`its a package, i dont see why not`
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`20:53.50`	`Gwildor_work`	`NathanExplosion, ndiswrapper wasnt too bad was it ?`
`20:53.51`	`NathanExplosion`	`you were right gwildor_work`
`20:54.10`	`NathanExplosion`	`for some reason ndiswrapper liked me this time`
`20:54.10`	`Gwildor_work`	`see, sometimes i know what im talking about`
`20:54.24`	`Gwildor_work`	`hehe, ive had my first luck with ndiswrapper recently as well :D`
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`20:54.40`	`NathanExplosion`	`cool`
`20:54.47`	`NathanExplosion`	`thanks for your help`
`20:55.10`	`Detox_at_Work`	`thanks for the assist Gwildor`
`20:55.10`	`Gwildor_work`	`heh, i tried`
`20:55.15`	`Gwildor_work`	`heh, i tried`
`20:55.17`	`Gwildor_work`	`:P`
`20:55.18`	`anquietas`	`Does it work now, NathanExplosion ?`
`20:55.23`	`Gwildor_work`	`Detox_at_Work, GL!`
`20:55.30`	`NathanExplosion`	`does the WEP work yet?`
`20:55.38`	`Gwildor_work`	`O_O...no wep?`
`20:56.00`	`NathanExplosion`	`not yet gwildor_work one step at a time`
`20:56.00`	`NathanExplosion`	`i am working on wep now`
`20:56.15`	`Gwildor_work`	`hehe`
`20:56.26`	`Gwildor_work`	`i can help with that in approx 1.5 hours..`
`20:56.38`	`anquietas`	`Hm, why do you need that anyway? :P`
`20:56.52`	`anquietas`	`I'm fine without any encryption. =D`
`20:57.18`	`Gwildor_work`	`it is anquietas notebook?`
`20:58.02`	`anquietas`	`lol`
`20:58.13`	`anquietas`	`Nope. Not mine.`
`20:58.20`	`NathanExplosion`	`this is a lappy`
`20:58.25`	`NathanExplosion`	`and this is also for a customer`
`20:58.37`	`anquietas`	`Was that question meant seriously, Gwildor_work ?`
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`21:00.41`	`NathanExplosion`	`what is the difference between ESSID and SSID?`
`21:00.49`	`Gwildor_work`	`about 1 letter`
`21:00.58`	`Detox_at_Work`	`ha`
`21:00.59`	`Elive_user34`	`thats about it`
`21:01.00`	`Pindapoy`	`:O`
`21:01.03`	`Pindapoy`	`hi all`
`21:01.17`	`Pindapoy`	`and bye`
`21:01.19`	`Elive_user34`	`hi`
`21:01.25`	`Chi11y`	`what is up with libc6? o.O`
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`21:01.46`	`ZioMiP`	`I'm back ^_^`
`21:01.52`	`NathanExplosion`	`okay thanks gwildor`
`21:01.58`	`Chi11y`	`whatever deb I try to install whether it's ubuntu or elive it complains about not the right libc6 version, dammit`
`21:02.00`	`Gwildor_work`	`NathanExplosion, :P np`
`21:02.06`	`Chi11y`	`I'm getting mad, seriously`
`21:02.09`	`NathanExplosion`	`i am getting nifty at this sh**`
`21:02.15`	`Gwildor_work`	`NathanExplosion, good, good`
`21:02.27`	`Gwildor_work`	`ok, i have to go home now, ill talk to you gfuys soon... 1.5 hours approx`
`21:02.51`	`Chi11y`	`anyone else who have dependency problems with libc6?`
`21:02.59`	`Chi11y`	`and any idea of how to solve them`
`21:03.12`	`ZioMiP`	`Chi11y, what gave you dependency problems?`
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`21:03.50`	`Chi11y`	`several packages in both ubuntu and elive complains about libc6. I have it installed, but appearantly it isn't the right version`
`21:04.04`	`Chi11y`	`in elive deluge complains about it for example`
`21:04.16`	`Chi11y`	`and in ubuntu slim does`
`21:04.21`	`Chi11y`	`and there are other apps too`
`21:04.31`	`Chi11y`	`and they all complain about libc6`
`21:04.38`	`NathanExplosion`	`anquietas when i type in my wep key, does capitalization matter?`
`21:05.23`	`anquietas`	`As far as I know, most things in a Linux environment are seemingly case sensitive. Pay attention to it.`
`21:05.47`	`ZioMiP`	`wep key is case sensitive... (as I know)`
`21:06.02`	`anquietas`	Welcome back ZioMiP ^-^`
`21:06.06`	`ZioMiP`	`^^`
`21:06.12`	`NathanExplosion`	`i thought so but i just wanted to ask to be sure`
`21:06.45`	`anquietas`	`Yes, with being careful, as for case sensitivity, you can't make a mistake.`
`21:07.14`	`Chi11y`	`no one else with libc6 problems? :S`
`21:07.42`	`ZioMiP`	`not me Chi11y ... not with ubuntu, not with elive, not also with debian ^^`
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`21:07.55`	`anquietas`	`No, Chi11y - I am utterly glad that I succeeded in setting up my NetBeans IDE for Java and C / C++.`
`21:08.08`	`Chi11y`	`ZioMiP anquietas: that is wierd`
`21:08.44`	`ZioMiP`	`Chilly... umh... try to change repository...`
`21:08.44`	`roxville`	`Chi11y, libc6 was upgraded last week`
`21:08.55`	`roxville`	`have you run a dist-upgrade lately?`
`21:08.55`	`Chi11y`	`roxville: ok :o`
`21:09.07`	`Chi11y`	`will try to upgrade again then`
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`21:09.24`	`Detox_at_Work`	`do you remember command to see ver of elive?`
`21:09.39`	`Elive_user34`	`cat /etc/elive-version`
`21:09.52`	`Chi11y`	`nope`
`21:09.58`	`Chi11y`	`my system is totally up 2 date`
`21:10.07`	`Detox_at_Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:10.07`	`Detox_at_Work`	`elive-version: 0.3`
`21:10.07`	`Detox_at_Work`	`debian-version: etch`
`21:10.07`	`Detox_at_Work`	`root@nbserv[/home/stevek]#`
`21:10.17`	`Elive_user34`	`:o`
`21:10.20`	`ZioMiP`	`Chilly, try yo change repository...`
`21:10.26`	`ZioMiP`	`use a non last-updated`
`21:10.33`	`anquietas`	`What's your problem, Chi11y ?`
`21:10.33`	`Chi11y`	`hmm, ok`
`21:10.44`	`Chi11y`	`is that really safe you think?`
`21:10.48`	`Detox_at_Work`	`hope this is correct jsut did apt-get dist-upgrade`
`21:10.56`	`Chi11y`	`anquietas: look some posts up`
`21:11.08`	`Chi11y`	`I just did a dist-upgrade, no new packages`
`21:11.14`	`ZioMiP`	`Chi11y, the trick is.... "you got you sistem up 2 date..."`
`21:11.26`	`Chi11y`	`root@Linuxburken[/home/peyj]# cat /etc/elive-version`
`21:11.26`	`Chi11y`	`elive-codename: Gem`
`21:11.26`	`Chi11y`	`elive-version: 1.0`
`21:11.26`	`Chi11y`	`date-builded: 2007-07-04`
`21:11.26`	`Chi11y`	`debian-version: etch`
`21:11.27`	`Chi11y`	`stable-release: yes`
`21:11.27`	`ZioMiP`	`roxville, said that libc6 was update last week`
`21:11.35`	`ZioMiP`	`so I think... that's the trouble...`
`21:11.46`	`Chi11y`	`yeah`
`21:12.56`	`Chi11y`	`so what should I do with /etc/apt/sources.list then?`
`21:14.03`	`ZioMiP`	`I think: "remove libc6... then use the CD-repository and install the one from the cd..."`
`21:14.31`	`Chi11y`	`cd-repository?`
`21:14.32`	`ZioMiP`	`this is what I think`
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`21:14.51`	`ZioMiP`	`maybe this is totally different from what you need to do...`
`21:14.57`	`ZioMiP`	`yeah chilly...`
`21:15.09`	`Chi11y`	`ok, first I try to reinstall libc6`
`21:15.14`	`ZioMiP`	`ok`
`21:15.23`	`ZioMiP`	`maybe was bad-configured...`
`21:15.30`	`ZioMiP`	`or better`
`21:15.34`	`Chi11y`	`hmm, or maybe I wont`
`21:15.58`	`ZioMiP`	`try to re-install if doesn't work try to download and compile by yourself...`
`21:16.01`	`Chi11y`	`1087 installed apps have libc6 as dependency`
`21:16.07`	`ZioMiP`	`lol`
`21:16.11`	`Chi11y`	`If I remove...`
`21:16.13`	`Chi11y`	`naah`
`21:16.18`	`Chi11y`	`wouldn't think so`
`21:16.19`	`ZioMiP`	`hehehe`
`21:16.30`	`Chi11y`	`>.<`
`21:16.38`	`ZioMiP`	`wait`
`21:17.26`	`ZioMiP`	`can you write exactly the "error message"`
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`21:19.14`	`roxville`	`Chi11y, it's probably some of the apps that you have installed out of the repo that is causing this`
`21:19.34`	`Chi11y`	`roxville: ok? o.O`
`21:19.41`	`Chi11y`	`ZioMiP:`
`21:19.44`	`Chi11y`	`ok wait a moment`
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`21:20.26`	`Chi11y`	`heh`
`21:20.36`	`NathanExplosion`	`roxville the stoner`
`21:21.24`	`roxville`	`apt cook shrimp and grits for NathanExplosion`
`21:21.24`	`apt`	`ACTION puts on his apron and fires up the stove. "Your shrimp and grits will be ready in a little while, NathanExplosion."`
`21:21.50`	`NathanExplosion`	`that's creepy`
`21:22.02`	`NathanExplosion`	`oh shit`
`21:22.06`	`NathanExplosion`	`i mean crap`
`21:22.36`	`roxville`	`i have never before seen anyone AFRAID of shrimp and grits...`
`21:22.38`	`Chi11y`	`hmm`
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`21:23.05`	`Chi11y`	`it may be hard to help since my dpkg is in swedish`
`21:23.15`	`ZioMiP`	`lol`
`21:23.20`	`ZioMiP`	`mine is in italian ^_^`
`21:23.22`	`ZioMiP`	`hahaha`
`21:23.26`	`ZioMiP`	`try to translate it :P`
`21:24.15`	`roxville`	`dpkg in swedish?`
`21:24.15`	`Chi11y`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:24.16`	`Chi11y`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:24.26`	`roxville`	`wow det hade jag ingen aning om...`
`21:24.41`	`Chi11y`	`roxville: yes, so is apt and such too`
`21:25.11`	`anquietas`	`Your Elive is in Italian, ZioMiP ? =D`
`21:25.31`	`ZioMiP`	`anquietas, nope :S I was talking about ubuntu ones...`
`21:25.36`	`ZioMiP`	`elive is only in english XD`
`21:25.43`	`ZioMiP`	`only a bit of software is in italian`
`21:25.59`	`Chi11y`	`strange`
`21:26.00`	`anquietas`	`:)`
`21:26.09`	`Chi11y`	`for me everything is in swedish :P`
`21:26.13`	`ZioMiP`	`^_^`
`21:26.24`	`Chi11y`	`except elpanel`
`21:26.26`	`ZioMiP`	`can I find Elive in launchpad for translations? XD`
`21:26.37`	`Chi11y`	`and some enlightenment stuff`
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`21:27.13`	`Chi11y`	`still`
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`21:27.19`	`Chi11y`	`libc6`
`21:27.29`	`NathanExplosion`	`god must hate me`
`21:27.39`	`Chi11y`	`I have 2.3 but newest is 2.6`
`21:27.47`	`Chi11y`	`and I can't upgrade`
`21:27.56`	`anquietas`	`lol NathanExplosion ... why?`
`21:28.13`	`Chi11y`	`lol`
`21:28.23`	`NathanExplosion`	`i used wine to install a package to get the INF file and now i cannot get rid of the app under the start menu`
`21:28.23`	`ZioMiP`	`lol`
`21:28.38`	`anquietas`	`Elpanel, NathanExplosion.`
`21:29.07`	`NathanExplosion`	`anquietas, i am using mint xfce`
`21:29.33`	`Chi11y`	`heh`
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`21:32.42`	`Chi11y`	`any of you sidux users, what is the difference between lite and full?`
`21:36.02`	`ZioMiP`	`emh`
`21:36.19`	`ZioMiP`	`the first installation of ubuntu wich root password use?`
`21:36.55`	`Elive_user34`	`root pw for what?`
`21:37.03`	`ZioMiP`	`nothing ^^ solved :P`
`21:37.04`	`ZioMiP`	`^_^`
`21:37.17`	`anquietas`	`Heh.`
`21:37.38`	`anquietas`	Do you grin that much in real, too, ZioMiP ? ^.^`
`21:37.44`	`Chi11y`	`lol`
`21:37.52`	`ZioMiP`	`haahah`
`21:38.05`	`NathanExplosion`	`ZioMip!`
`21:38.07`	`ZioMiP`	`I wanna Elive installed into my brain.. can I?`
`21:38.16`	`ZioMiP`	`NathanExplosion ! tell me`
`21:39.36`	`Chi11y`	`if you are a robot with x86 or ppc arch you can :o`
`21:39.47`	`ZioMiP`	`^^`
`21:39.56`	`Elive_user34`	`x86`
`21:40.05`	`ZioMiP`	`umh...`
`21:40.05`	`ZioMiP`	`nope :P`
`21:40.19`	`ZioMiP`	`but a calendar software installed into it was not bad :P`
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`21:40.56`	`anquietas`	`In Elive, ZioMiP ?`
`21:41.04`	`anquietas`	`Or your brain? ^^`
`21:41.05`	`ZioMiP`	`no no into my brain :P`
`21:41.07`	`ZioMiP`	`^_^`
`21:41.08`	`anquietas`	`Haha.`
`21:41.26`	`ZioMiP`	`btw`
`21:41.33`	`ZioMiP`	`dear lovelly friends`
`21:41.36`	`ZioMiP`	`here is late...`
`21:41.39`	`ZioMiP`	`and I got to go to bed ...`
`21:42.07`	`ZioMiP`	`tomorrow comes quickly XD`
`21:42.47`	`Chi11y`	`o.O`
`21:42.54`	`ZioMiP`	`have good day/night/dinner/something else at all ^^`
`21:43.17`	`ZioMiP`	`ZioMiP from Italy is going offline ^^`
`21:43.31`	`ZioMiP`	`here 11:45 PM`
`21:43.41`	`anquietas`	`Good Night ZioMiP; Sleep well ^-^`
`21:43.54`	`ZioMiP`	`bye bye anquietas, Chi11y, NathanExplosion, roxville, and all other ^^`
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`21:44.01`	`anquietas`	`Ciao ciao...`
`21:44.03`	`NathanExplosion`	`bye`
`21:50.01`	`wizard123`	`hehe..`
`21:50.12`	`wizard123`	`here is 23:50.. and i'm at work`
`21:50.14`	`wizard123`	`i hate that`
`21:51.23`	`Chi11y`	`yeh, that sucks`
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`21:56.29`	`anquietas`	`wizard123 ... what work?`
`21:56.49`	`wizard123`	`http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070819`
`21:56.50`	`wizard123`	`:D`
`21:56.51`	`wizard123`	`lol`
`21:56.58`	`wizard123`	`anquietas: server admin`
`21:57.20`	`anquietas`	`lol`
`21:57.25`	`NicNac`	`what does the job entail?`
`21:58.21`	`wizard123`	`sitting in front of monitor and grepping logs ?`
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`22:00.15`	`wizard123`	`if i understood correctly :)`
`22:00.54`	`NicNac`	`sounds good to me`
`22:01.56`	`wizard123`	`ah.. only 6 hours more :/`
`22:02.52`	`NicNac`	`you have to much though or is it mainly sitting about?`
`22:03.28`	`wizard123`	`it depends`
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`22:03.47`	`wizard123`	`if everything works fine, i read books, news, chat and so on :P`
`22:03.59`	`NicNac`	`I want your job :P`
`22:04.03`	`wizard123`	`but when something happens.. my keyboard is on fire :D`
`22:04.22`	`NicNac`	`how often on average to you really have to do anything?`
`22:05.30`	`wizard123`	`big failures happended two times on my shift`
`22:06.04`	`wizard123`	`small failures mean that i had to restart something, or call somewhere ;) which usually takes 1 minute or so`
`22:06.24`	`wizard123`	`so.. usually i sit and do nothing`
`22:07.18`	`wizard123`	`NicNac: if you could kidnap me and teleport me to my girlfriend, i would be glad :D`
`22:07.36`	`NicNac`	`I'm still working on the teleporter ;P`
`22:07.40`	`wizard123`	`great`
`22:07.44`	`wizard123`	`^^`
`22:08.35`	`NicNac`	`I gotta go anyways catch ya all later`
`22:08.43`	`wizard123`	`see you :)`
`22:09.05`	`anquietas`	`Ciao NicNac`
`22:13.12`	`wizard123`	`dy'er mak'er in the radio!`
`22:13.14`	`wizard123`	`\o/`
`22:13.21`	`wizard123`	`led zeppelin rox :P`
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`22:28.39`	`wizard123`	`is everything allright ?`
`22:29.04`	`anquietas`	`Sure sure`
`22:29.37`	`ggordon`	`having a prob getting Linneighborhood to see XP box...any hints?`
`22:30.53`	`wizard123`	`godd night wasynyt`
`22:30.56`	`Chi11y`	`gnight wasynyt`
`22:31.00`	`ggordon`	`never mind....I got it`
`22:31.08`	`wizard123`	`ggordon: try smbclient or smbmount :)`
`22:31.13`	`wizard123`	`lol`
`22:31.13`	`wizard123`	`:D`
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`22:31.20`	`anquietas`	`Night wasynyt`
`22:31.48`	`ggordon`	`I got it working now, but thx for replying`
`22:32.02`	`wizard123`	`your welcome`
`22:32.07`	`Gwildor`	`i get home, everyone is gone`
`22:32.21`	`Chi11y`	`:P`
`22:32.23`	`wizard123`	`i'm not`
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`22:33.04`	`Gwildor`	`wb PrinceAMD`
`22:33.15`	`PrinceAMD`	`Gwildor, thanks`
`22:33.52`	`ggordon`	`ok...well...after using elive as an installed distro for a couple of days...liking it more and more...may not go back to the distro I was using... :)`
`22:34.00`	`Chi11y`	`:)`
`22:34.25`	`Chi11y`	`can you run qemu without X?`
`22:34.47`	`ggordon`	`I say no`
`22:34.57`	`Chi11y`	`ok :/`
`22:36.06`	`wizard123`	`Chi11y: i think you could`
`22:36.08`	`ggordon`	`but I'm not a big qemu fan either...you want to rin something else...make your box a dual booter...know you got one of those 100GB hard-drives :)`
`22:36.21`	`wizard123`	`you can set up.. i forgot the name..`
`22:36.42`	`wizard123`	`xnofb ?`
`22:36.48`	`Chi11y`	`apt chi11y`
`22:36.49`	`apt`	`rumour has it, chi11y is a swedish elive fanatic who eats rusty nails for breakfast and is a proud multibooter`
`22:36.49`	`wizard123`	`wait, i'll check`
`22:36.54`	`ggordon`	`also better have fast cpu and lots of RAM`
`22:37.01`	`Chi11y`	`I dualboot already`
`22:37.02`	`Chi11y`	`:)`
`22:37.10`	`ggordon`	`or you'll be disappointed with performance`
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`22:37.25`	`Chi11y`	`but when installing more distros I use qemu`
`22:37.29`	`ggordon`	`been my experience anyway...`
`22:37.51`	`Chi11y`	`even though it sucks hard because my specs is...2001... <.<`
`22:38.02`	`wizard123`	`apt-cache search xorg \| grep fb`
`22:38.03`	`wizard123`	`:)`
`22:38.15`	`ggordon`	`XP and Linux...what else you wanna run?`
`22:38.23`	`wizard123`	`BSD!!!!`
`22:38.23`	`ggordon`	`BSD?`
`22:38.26`	`Chi11y`	`no XP`
`22:38.31`	`ggordon`	`I guessed it!`
`22:38.36`	`wizard123`	`i was faster`
`22:38.44`	`Chi11y`	`atm I run a very modded ubuntu and elive`
`22:38.45`	`ggordon`	`;)`
`22:38.50`	`Chi11y`	`currently install sidux`
`22:39.08`	`wizard123`	`BeOS, QNX, Solaris, OS/2, DOS, SCO Unixware.. whatever you want :D`
`22:39.11`	`anquietas`	`ggordon, hehe, I switched to Elive from Windows XP. I hadn't yet used a GNU/Linux-based system and -from the very beginning- I shall have never looked back at what once ruled upon my daily life.`
`22:39.15`	`wizard123`	`OS X :P`
`22:39.20`	`ggordon`	`I'm a one distro kinda guy myself`
`22:39.26`	`Gwildor`	`anquietas, :D`
`22:39.30`	`Chi11y`	`heh ok :P`
`22:39.31`	`Gwildor`	`and im with gordon,`
`22:39.53`	`Chi11y`	`I am the ultimate distro-hopper ;P`
`22:39.53`	`ggordon`	`yes...I gave XP up a year ago or longer...`
`22:40.09`	`Chi11y`	`XP is for gaming, and gaming ONLY`
`22:40.21`	`Chi11y`	`since my specs are bad`
`22:40.26`	`Chi11y`	`I don't use XP`
`22:40.29`	`Chi11y`	`or any windows`
`22:40.38`	`ggordon`	`My wifey still uses it on her box...and I have ppc that run M$ 2003SE mobile`
`22:41.14`	`ggordon`	`I like DSL for thumbdrive distro...best there is in that dept. imho`
`22:41.23`	`Chi11y`	`heh`
`22:41.35`	`Chi11y`	`no ose in my family is allowed to run Vista`
`22:41.48`	`Chi11y`	`:P`
`22:41.59`	`Gwildor`	`ill punch a foo for using vista`
`22:42.07`	`ggordon`	`Had been using Zenwalk for lonf time until I decided to give Elive a look...`
`22:42.19`	`Chi11y`	`I would seriously reformat the disk of anyone I know that would use vista`
`22:42.27`	`Gwildor`	`zenwalk gave me internet connection issues`
`22:42.38`	`Gwildor`	`i couldnt connect.... even with static..`
`22:42.42`	`Chi11y`	`zenwalk is cool`
`22:42.44`	`ggordon`	`never had a prob with it myself`
`22:42.48`	`Chi11y`	`but kinda boring`
`22:42.51`	`Gwildor`	`and the dev said 'shrug'...so i bailed`
`22:43.04`	`Chi11y`	`heh`
`22:43.08`	`wizard123`	`hehe`
`22:43.28`	`Gwildor`	`not a huge xfce fan neways :P`
`22:43.41`	`Chi11y`	`xfce is nice`
`22:43.42`	`ggordon`	`well I had XFCE, Openbox, Fluxbox and E17 and Gnome wm's all working well...`
`22:44.07`	`Gwildor`	`xfce is nice, just not for me.`
`22:44.08`	`Chi11y`	`heh, I'm always trying everything`
`22:44.11`	`ggordon`	`Like XFCE myself and starting to like E17 :)`
`22:44.17`	`Gwildor`	`something about it pisses me off.....`
`22:44.23`	`Gwildor`	`id rather just use fluxbox`
`22:44.31`	`anquietas`	`E18 is great.`
`22:44.33`	`Chi11y`	`openbox is the best`
`22:44.33`	`anquietas`	`<E17>`
`22:44.40`	`ggordon`	`well...different strokes for different folks`
`22:44.46`	`Chi11y`	`e126 :O:O:O ;P`
`22:44.51`	`Gwildor`	`ya, elive is all i use now.`
`22:44.57`	`Gwildor`	`well, always been a debian fan`
`22:45.04`	`anquietas`	`I love my Elive.`
`22:45.18`	`ggordon`	`all Linux..don't care what you call the distro...same OS wearing a different dress`
`22:45.27`	`Gwildor`	`nah, i wont touch RPM's`
`22:45.36`	`Gwildor`	`lol...who remembers wehn ubuntu was debian :P`
`22:45.37`	`wizard123`	`:D`
`22:45.40`	`wizard123`	`Gwildor++`
`22:45.43`	`ggordon`	`I do like deb..and slack`
`22:46.22`	`Gwildor`	`who remembers when ubuntu had boobies on the desktop?`
`22:46.23`	`Gwildor`	`:D`
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`22:46.38`	`anquietas`	`Boobies? What's that?`
`22:46.44`	`Gwildor`	`O_o`
`22:46.44`	`wizard123`	`:D`
`22:46.51`	`Chi11y`	`lol`
`22:46.55`	`ggordon`	`I like boobies on desktop, face, etc. :)`
`22:47.00`	`anquietas`	`O.o ... no... seriously. What does that mean?`
`22:47.04`	`Gwildor`	`breasts`
`22:47.09`	`ggordon`	`tits`
`22:47.21`	`Gwildor`	`google 'topless women'... thoseare boobies`
`22:47.30`	`anquietas`	`Aw, I see.`
`22:47.39`	`anquietas`	`Google Image Search was helpful.`
`22:47.42`	`wizard123`	`anquietas: devirginized`
`22:47.47`	`anquietas`	`>.<`
`22:47.52`	`ggordon`	`hope we didn't just contribute to delinquency of a minor`
`22:48.01`	`anquietas`	`Well, no.`
`22:48.02`	`ggordon`	`:)`
`22:48.10`	`Gwildor`	`haha`
`22:48.24`	`Chi11y`	`so ubuntu had topless women as wallpaper earlier? o.O`
`22:48.29`	`Gwildor`	`lol, ya.`
`22:48.36`	`Gwildor`	`beta live CD`
`22:48.45`	`Gwildor`	`and it used to use debian repo's`
`22:48.54`	`Gwildor`	`and mark shuttleworth used to hang in the irc channel`
`22:49.03`	`Chi11y`	`heh :P`
`22:49.04`	`ggordon`	`birds go "tweet, tweet, tweet" bees go "bzzzz"`
`22:49.17`	`wizard123`	`aaaah! i saw it on screenshots..`
`22:49.23`	`Gwildor`	`its weird talking to ta guy daily for a few months..... then finding out he is a millionaire`
`22:49.25`	`wizard123`	`i thought it was customized desktop :D`
`22:49.38`	`Chi11y`	`Gwildor: heh`
`22:49.42`	`Gwildor`	`was brown.... a lady from waist up... topless`
`22:49.44`	`ggordon`	`I bet...I'm a dollaraire :)`
`22:49.48`	`Gwildor`	`LOL`
`22:50.26`	`wizard123`	`Gwildor: it sounds terrible! what did father George say about that?!`
`22:50.55`	`wizard123`	`how could thay.. and than they released 'ubuntu christian edition..'`
`22:50.59`	`ggordon`	`I dl alot of live cd's...just to check 'em out`
`22:51.31`	`ggordon`	`got two today off distrowatch...haven't burned 'em yet...`
`22:52.10`	`ggordon`	`have to do something with all those blank cdr's :)`
`22:52.23`	`wizard123`	`what would you recommend to install on ppc ?`
`22:52.29`	`Gwildor`	`you can load them...without burning them..`
`22:52.30`	`Chi11y`	`elive`
`22:52.39`	`Gwildor`	`in qemu`
`22:52.42`	`ggordon`	`qemu`
`22:52.46`	`wizard123`	`o_O`
`22:52.56`	`Gwildor`	`my connection is going flacky..`
`22:53.01`	`wizard123`	`fanatics..`
`22:53.10`	`ggordon`	`may try it now that I have fast cpu`
`22:53.25`	`Gwildor`	`wizard123, for ppc.... arent there not many options..`
`22:53.30`	`Gwildor`	`yellow dog is debian is it not?`
`22:53.58`	`wizard123`	`i don't know`
`22:54.04`	`wizard123`	`i've never had ppc before`
`22:54.13`	`anquietas`	`Is your Elive actually female or male?`
`22:54.16`	`wizard123`	`i think gentoo or debian will be good idea :)`
`22:54.48`	`wizard123`	`and os x`
`22:54.58`	`Chi11y`	`:P`
`22:55.20`	`ggordon`	`my ppc is 'pocket pc'`
`22:55.41`	`wizard123`	`lol`
`22:55.49`	`ggordon`	`I 2Ghz 64 bit cpu..qemu oughta run ok`
`22:56.01`	`wizard123`	`PowerPC, former arch used by apple`
`22:56.31`	`ggordon`	`I know...didn't want any misunderstanding on what I said I had :)`
`22:56.42`	`Gwildor`	`whatchu got?`
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`22:57.23`	`ggordon`	`1 pocket pc, 2 desktops, 1 running XP Pro, other is Elive :)`
`22:57.42`	`ggordon`	`all networked, so I can share, move files, etc.`
`22:58.13`	`ggordon`	`ppc is wifi, other 2 hardwired to wireless router`
`22:58.26`	`ggordon`	`best of both worlds`
`22:59.57`	`anquietas`	`Hmh. People have stuff at home... geez`
`23:00.04`	`Chi11y`	`:P`
`23:00.33`	`ggordon`	`well...dl's are done...lemme see if I rem syntax for qemu and see if these livecd's worth playing with`
`23:00.49`	`anquietas`	`I have one desktop computer, a little mouse, a cute keyboard, a lovely LCD, ...`
`23:01.17`	`ggordon`	`if I get stupid, I'll come back here and ask ;)`
`23:01.27`	`anquietas`	`Aye.`
`23:01.32`	`Gwildor`	`i have a 1.2ghz desktop... a 800mhz dekstop, 2 old imacs (333 and 233) 2x850mhz laptops, a 333-thinkpad, a 133-libretto....a 233 protege..`
`23:01.41`	`Gwildor`	`i use.... 1850mhz laptop 100% of the time..`
`23:01.44`	`ggordon`	`I have nice big never wiped ass you can kiss...hahaha...just joking`
`23:01.45`	`Gwildor`	`all the rest in the closet`
`23:02.01`	`Gwildor`	`oh GF uses an imac`
`23:02.08`	`wizard123`	`:)`
`23:02.19`	`ggordon`	`later dudez`
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`23:02.46`	`Gwildor`	`i guess he's leavin`
`23:03.07`	`Chi11y`	`:P`
`23:03.13`	`anquietas`	`I love all my tiny cute bits of technology here... ^^ It's all very lovely.`
`23:03.28`	`Gwildor`	`:D`
`23:03.30`	`Chi11y`	`:P`
`23:03.52`	`anquietas`	`No boobies at all, but cuddly LCDs!`
`23:04.01`	`Chi11y`	`>.<`
`23:04.05`	`anquietas`	`Aaaand hot CPUs.`
`23:04.10`	`Chi11y`	`:P`
`23:04.11`	`anquietas`	`And hotter GPUs!`
`23:04.33`	`wizard123`	`:S`
`23:05.22`	`anquietas`	`No girl could ever replace my computer. No. Never.`
`23:05.30`	`Chi11y`	`heh`
`23:06.08`	`wizard123`	`:(`
`23:06.30`	`anquietas`	`What's up wizard123 ?`
`23:07.29`	`wizard123`	`because my girlfriend is 350 km from me.. and all the time i'm allmost alone, all my friends returned home for holidays`
`23:07.54`	`anquietas`	`Long-distance relationship?`
`23:08.06`	`wizard123`	`no, just for holidays..`
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`23:08.13`	`elmo44`	`http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99mar/uf000423.gif`
`23:08.24`	`elmo44`	`speaking of relationships...`
`23:08.39`	`wizard123`	`hehe, i saw that :D`
`23:08.40`	`Gwildor`	`ive gotta wait for firefix to unfrozed`
`23:10.08`	`elmo44`	`use links2 -g`
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`23:11.45`	`wizard123`	`elmo44: +`
`23:11.57`	`wizard123`	`hah, ggordon, you can't sleep ?`
`23:12.18`	`PrinceAMD`	`nice chart`
`23:12.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`next time i see a hot chick`
`23:12.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`i'll know what to say`
`23:12.35`	`ggordon`	`ok...quick thumbnail howto run iso from qemu`
`23:12.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`qemu-launcher`
`23:12.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`?`
`23:12.55`	`ggordon`	`yes`
`23:13.12`	`PrinceAMD`	`run it n then select cdrom then located the iso`
`23:13.19`	`PrinceAMD`	`locate*`
`23:14.15`	`Chi11y`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:14.23`	`Chi11y`	`for example qemu -cdrom sidux-2007-03.1-200708151418-gaia-kde-lite.iso -m 128`
`23:14.38`	`wizard123`	`lol`
`23:14.39`	`Gwildor`	`or use qemu-launger for gui-ness`
`23:14.49`	`ggordon`	`using vm emulator in elive and not term window`
`23:15.00`	`wizard123`	`for example qemu -cdrom cd-full-of-pr0n.iso -m 320`
`23:15.03`	`wizard123`	`xD`
`23:15.09`	`Chi11y`	`:P`
`23:15.23`	`Chi11y`	`that one works too ;P`
`23:15.46`	`ggordon`	`ok...let me just type some stuff in and start hitting 'enter'`
`23:15.54`	`Chi11y`	`;P`
`23:20.57`	`Chi11y`	`I'm going to bed now`
`23:21.05`	`Chi11y`	`cyall`
`23:25.21`	`anquietas`	`Fine. I am going to bed.`
`23:25.23`	`anquietas`	`Good Night.`
`23:25.52`	`anquietas`	`Ciao ciao`
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`23:27.49`	`anquietas`	`Okay - No sleeping.`
`23:28.19`	`anquietas`	`Question: The terminal's blurred background ... how can I change it?`
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`23:28.23`	`anquietas`	`wizard123.`
`23:28.45`	`anquietas`	`Gwildor.`
`23:29.20`	`ggordon`	`NicEDesktop livecd just xfce Slax clone..nothing special`
`23:29.47`	`ggordon`	`try NimbleX sub100 mb KDE next :)`
`23:30.26`	`ggordon`	`like the qemu gui..makes it easy for a dumbass :)`
`23:31.20`	`ggordon`	`anyway...thx to all...for the 'enlightenment' :)`
`23:32.15`	`anquietas`	`:)`
`23:32.22`	`anquietas`	`Where are all the others?`
`23:32.39`	`anquietas`	`Theoden ?`
`23:32.45`	`Gwildor`	`what?`
`23:32.48`	`ggordon`	`better go appease my 'ball & chain' before she makes me spend night on the couch :(`
`23:32.55`	`Gwildor`	`GL ggordon`
`23:33.01`	`anquietas`	`The terminal's blurred background ... how can I change it, Gwildor ?`
`23:33.05`	`ggordon`	`yeah....thx`
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`23:34.14`	`Gwildor`	`in elpanel`
`23:34.43`	`Gwildor`	`one on the left.....e17.... black and white box`
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`23:35.48`	`KsRyno`	`hi all`
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`23:40.02`	`PrinceAMD`	`NathanExplosion, welcome home`
`23:40.11`	`NathanExplosion`	`welcome`
`23:40.17`	`Gwildor`	`:D`
`23:40.29`	`NathanExplosion`	`thanks`
`23:40.30`	`NathanExplosion`	`:D`
`23:41.15`	`NathanExplosion`	`sup guys?`
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`23:41.53`	`wizard123`	`anquietas: ?`
`23:41.58`	`wizard123`	`hello NathanExplosion`
`23:42.06`	`wizard123`	`hello KsRyno`
`23:42.12`	`keyra`	`wizard123: hi`
`23:42.30`	`anquietas`	`Elive rocks.`
`23:42.32`	`anquietas`	`Totally.`
`23:43.44`	`anquietas`	`It just -ROCKS-.`
`23:43.57`	`anquietas`	`Thanks Gwildor!`
`23:44.11`	`Gwildor`	`what i do?`
`23:44.16`	`Gwildor`	`err, NP man, anytime :P`
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`23:44.31`	`anquietas`	`You told me how to change the blurred fake transparency background.`
`23:44.33`	`NathanExplosion_`	`haha there is 2 of me now`
`23:44.44`	`anquietas`	`Heh.`
`23:45.02`	`Gwildor`	`oh yeah :D`
`23:45.11`	`NathanExplosion_`	`i am nathan's evil twin`
`23:46.25`	`Gwildor`	`AHHH`
`23:46.52`	`wizard123`	`evil twin ?!`
`23:46.54`	`wizard123`	`omg`
`23:46.58`	`NathanExplosion_`	`i am the evil twin`
`23:47.03`	`wizard123`	`so NathanExplosion was that good ?`
`23:47.06`	`NathanExplosion`	`i'm the less evil twin`
`23:47.07`	`Gwildor`	`HAHA`
`23:47.10`	`wizard123`	`Gwildor: wait for me!`
`23:48.09`	`Gwildor`	`OMG THE EVIL TWIN KILLED PRINCEAMD`
`23:48.21`	`NathanExplosion_`	`>:D`
`23:50.13`	`NathanExplosion_`	`:P`
`23:50.43`	`anquietas`	`Haha`
`23:58.40`	`anquietas`	`http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9927/200708210146251280x1024vd8.jpg`
`23:58.44`	`anquietas`	`I love Elive. :P`
`23:59.18`	`NathanExplosion`	`where's the hot chick background pic?`
`23:59.31`	`anquietas`	`Hot chick?`
`23:59.42`	`NathanExplosion`	`yeah? instead of all the leaves n shit?`
`23:59.44`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user77 (n=Elive_us@fnbs143246.catv.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp)`
`23:59.45`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user24 (n=Elive_us@fnbs143246.catv.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp)`
`23:59.54`	`anquietas`	`No hot chicks. Cuddly bamboo trees.`

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