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| 00:30.10 | marcfp | hi |
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| 01:02.04 | Elive_user24 | MaximilianoADL, ??? |
| 01:02.07 | Elive_user24 | holas :) |
| 01:02.21 | keyra | Elive_user24: que tal ? |
| 01:02.25 | MaximilianoADL | hola fetova |
| 01:02.44 | fetova | pues aqui :) |
| 01:03.03 | fetova | en un cafe internet usando elive ;) |
| 01:03.11 | fetova | me ha servido bien :) |
| 01:05.48 | marcfp | fetova: me passan ideas "malas" por la cabeza |
| 01:06.00 | fetova | por? |
| 01:06.02 | marcfp | por que no instalas una elive en el ciber ? ;) |
| 01:06.09 | fetova | xD |
| 01:06.11 | egrub | fetova: de donde sos? |
| 01:06.24 | fetova | mexico :) |
| 01:06.33 | egrub | Ya veo |
| 01:06.34 | marcfp | fetova: no estarias haciendo daño a nadie ... |
| 01:06.40 | egrub | Que suerte meter elive en un cyber |
| 01:06.42 | marcfp | solo alquilar una maquina, no ? |
| 01:06.44 | egrub | :) |
| 01:06.46 | fetova | sip |
| 01:06.53 | fetova | estoy en el live cd :( |
| 01:07.00 | marcfp | mmm |
| 01:07.18 | fetova | pero a ver... |
| 01:07.20 | marcfp | i no puedes hacer un chroot como root a /dev/hdXY ? |
| 01:07.28 | fetova | sip |
| 01:07.31 | fetova | para que? |
| 01:07.43 | marcfp | entonces la puedes instalar, no ? |
| 01:08.10 | fetova | sip |
| 01:08.17 | marcfp | metes un grub que te arranque muy rapido i nadie se tiene que enterar ... |
| 01:08.18 | fetova | pero no podria hacerlo ahora :) |
| 01:08.23 | fetova | xD |
| 01:08.28 | fetova | jajajajajajajaja :D |
| 01:08.33 | marcfp | si o no ? |
| 01:09.04 | fetova | me gusta hacer las cosas tranquilas |
| 01:09.08 | marcfp | fetova: no me hagas mucho caso ;) |
| 01:09.23 | marcfp | era solo una possible idea para jugar un poco :) |
| 01:09.25 | fetova | pienso hacer campaña por meter linux en los cybers ;) |
| 01:09.29 | fetova | jajajajaja :D |
| 01:09.32 | fetova | lo se ;) |
| 01:09.54 | fetova | de hecho yo soy de ubuntu-mx ;) |
| 01:10.05 | fetova | pero no en todos lados jala ubuntu :( |
| 01:10.10 | marcfp | upz ..... |
| 01:10.12 | fetova | es lo que me dice la experiencia |
| 01:10.18 | fetova | ? |
| 01:10.22 | marcfp | fetova: sorry, pero soy debianero :) |
| 01:10.35 | fetova | xD |
| 01:10.46 | fetova | todos tenemos una distro preferida ;) |
| 01:10.56 | marcfp | kutre i malo, pero vamos ... asi es :) |
| 01:11.06 | fetova | a mi me gusta ubuntu |
| 01:11.12 | fetova | pero no es para todo |
| 01:11.20 | fetova | jajajaja |
| 01:11.27 | fetova | como dijeran en un sitio... |
| 01:11.44 | fetova | las comunidades linuxeras deben apoyarse |
| 01:11.56 | fetova | que el rival no somos nosotros |
| 01:12.04 | fetova | es m$ |
| 01:12.09 | fetova | :p |
| 01:12.40 | marcfp | mmm |
| 01:12.57 | marcfp | no se si identificar-me como linuxero :S |
| 01:13.10 | fetova | y eso? |
| 01:13.19 | fetova | mac? |
| 01:13.32 | marcfp | hace tiempo que quiero probar el kfreebsd/gnu de debian .... |
| 01:13.44 | marcfp | del proyecto debian, vamos :S |
| 01:13.45 | fetova | jajajajajaja :D |
| 01:13.50 | fetova | :p |
| 01:13.56 | fetova | pero bah... |
| 01:14.06 | fetova | sigue siendo software libre ;) |
| 01:14.11 | marcfp | he probado de poner-me openbsd ... |
| 01:14.17 | fetova | pense que ibas a decir mac... |
| 01:14.29 | marcfp | macOS ? |
| 01:14.34 | marcfp | nops |
| 01:14.39 | fetova | :D |
| 01:14.46 | fetova | tons todo esta bien :p |
| 01:15.25 | MaximilianoADL | fetoba ubuntero, ahora elivero :) |
| 01:15.35 | MaximilianoADL | fetova, |
| 01:15.43 | fetova | jajajajajajaja :D |
| 01:15.48 | fetova | soy linuxero ;) |
| 01:16.16 | fetova | si quieres que establezca preferencias de distros va asi: |
| 01:16.24 | fetova | 1.- ubuntu |
| 01:16.29 | fetova | 2.- elive |
| 01:16.35 | fetova | 3.- debian |
| 01:16.43 | fetova | 4.- knoppix |
| 01:16.52 | fetova | y ahi para la lista :P |
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| 01:18.53 | Gwildor | Geek_Juice, woa...nice..thnx |
| 01:19.29 | fetova | #join #elive-es |
| 01:19.31 | fetova | xD |
| 01:19.49 | Geek_Juice | Gwildor, I just deleted over 16 gigs of video |
| 01:19.54 | Geek_Juice | tutorial s |
| 01:19.57 | Geek_Juice | dvds |
| 01:19.59 | Gwildor | WOA...what for? |
| 01:20.03 | Gwildor | the bible is nice |
| 01:20.05 | Geek_Juice | linux plus |
| 01:20.06 | Gwildor | TY again |
| 01:20.07 | Geek_Juice | lol |
| 01:20.19 | Gwildor | is there a linux+bible? |
| 01:20.33 | Geek_Juice | It is in the Lin folder |
| 01:20.48 | Geek_Juice | I should have practice tests in there too |
| 01:20.52 | Geek_Juice | should |
| 01:20.58 | Geek_Juice | I did I iknow that much |
| 01:23.01 | egrub | fetova: elive es mas liviano y completo que bubuntu |
| 01:23.07 | Gwildor | Geek_Juice, oh, you added more |
| 01:23.54 | Gwildor | Geek_Juice, you would have some $$ you could toss in there, so i can go take the exams, wouldya :D |
| 01:24.01 | fetova | egrub, no lo dudo :) |
| 01:24.22 | fetova | solo que hay que mejorar la usabilidad para un usuario medio :) |
| 01:24.34 | fetova | ya instale una vez elive en una maquina |
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| 01:24.47 | fetova | me dijeron que la regresara a w$ :S |
| 01:25.00 | fetova | lo cual no me agrado para nada.... |
| 01:25.15 | egrub | fetova: dejalo él |
| 01:25.25 | egrub | fetova: es su problema y se pierde tiempo |
| 01:25.28 | egrub | :) |
| 01:25.33 | fetova | :) |
| 01:25.37 | fetova | eso si ;) |
| 01:26.00 | fetova | por eso uso linux lo mas que puedo |
| 01:26.06 | fetova | y quien esta interesado |
| 01:26.13 | fetova | le ayudo a instalar ;) |
| 01:26.29 | egrub | Je |
| 01:28.52 | fetova | de donde eres egrub ? |
| 01:30.26 | marcfp | me quedan un poco menos de 690 lineas para acabar la traduccion del enlightenment 17 al catalan :) |
| 01:30.39 | fetova | ooooooooooooooooooo |
| 01:30.47 | fetova | son un monton.... |
| 01:30.55 | marcfp | juas juas juas!!!! |
| 01:31.07 | fetova | y todava que soy malo para la traduccion..... |
| 01:31.08 | fetova | xD |
| 01:31.11 | marcfp | sabes de cuantas lineas he echo la traduccion ya ? de mil i pico :P |
| 01:31.21 | fetova | !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:31.26 | fetova | fua!!!!!!!! |
| 01:31.30 | fetova | poquitas... |
| 01:31.31 | fetova | xD |
| 01:31.41 | marcfp | yo quiero el e17 en mi lengua materna, el catalan |
| 01:32.03 | fetova | jajajajajaja |
| 01:32.05 | fetova | imaginate |
| 01:32.15 | marcfp | bueno ... |
| 01:32.18 | fetova | si todo el mundo tuviera deseos de ese tipo... |
| 01:32.22 | fetova | jajajajaja |
| 01:32.25 | marcfp | estoy traducciendo ee |
| 01:32.30 | fetova | muchas cosas se harian ;) |
| 01:32.37 | fetova | vale :) |
| 01:32.44 | fetova | continue |
| 01:32.44 | marcfp | perdon :S |
| 01:32.54 | fetova | jajajaja |
| 01:32.55 | fetova | ;) |
| 01:32.59 | fetova | np |
| 01:33.45 | marcfp | /root/e17_cvs/e17/apps/e/po/ca.po: UTF-8 Unicode PO |
| 01:34.31 | marcfp | si mañana tengo tiempo, mirare de hacer unas lineas mas |
| 01:35.30 | fetova | :D |
| 01:36.05 | fetova | eres tu solo marcfp? |
| 01:36.12 | fetova | o cuantos son? |
| 01:36.22 | marcfp | i luego a aprender a programar con rubyonrails :) |
| 01:36.25 | marcfp | fetova: yo solito |
| 01:36.43 | fetova | :o |
| 01:36.52 | fetova | que horror!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:37.06 | marcfp | entre correciones, i demas ... me esta costando un poco, pero vamos, ahora ya creo que casi lo tengo |
| 01:37.18 | fetova | :o |
| 01:37.19 | marcfp | ya no me quedan las 1700 lineas del principio :P |
| 01:37.24 | fetova | :p |
| 01:37.29 | fetova | eso si :p |
| 01:37.47 | fetova | pues que bien que dediques el tiempo a la obra ;) |
| 01:38.04 | marcfp | fetova: lo hago por amor al arte :) |
| 01:38.16 | fetova | jajaajajajajaja |
| 01:38.22 | marcfp | por que me gusta el enlightenment 17 i su modo de funcionar |
| 01:38.29 | fetova | seeeeee |
| 01:38.33 | marcfp | aunque cuando salga el 18 .... ya va a ser la reostia :P |
| 01:38.43 | fetova | m imagino :) |
| 01:38.57 | fetova | esta combindo muchisimo entre versones... |
| 01:38.57 | marcfp | con perdon de la expression :S |
| 01:39.05 | fetova | jajajajaja :D |
| 01:39.15 | fetova | aca junto una maquina en w$ |
| 01:39.27 | fetova | tuvo un lindo pantallazo azul de la muerte :p |
| 01:39.33 | fetova | lol |
| 01:39.51 | fetova | y dicen que es un buen SO.... xD |
| 01:39.52 | marcfp | fetova: yo he montado wine para emular un programa para hacer cd's de fotos para mi madre, con musica i tal ... |
| 01:40.10 | fetova | oras... |
| 01:40.13 | fetova | cual? |
| 01:40.20 | marcfp | ella solo quiere usar windows |
| 01:40.28 | marcfp | picasa2 |
| 01:40.34 | fetova | uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 01:40.48 | fetova | por lo que se hay una verson para w$ |
| 01:40.52 | fetova | creo |
| 01:40.57 | marcfp | i no sabe ni usar su programa de contabilidad con windows 98 segunda edicion :P |
| 01:41.19 | fetova | http://picasa.google.com/linux/ |
| 01:41.25 | fetova | si lo hay :) |
| 01:41.31 | fetova | xD |
| 01:41.34 | fetova | jajajajajajajaja |
| 01:41.37 | marcfp | juas juas!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:41.53 | fetova | aunque es facil linux :) |
| 01:41.57 | fetova | mas ubuntu :) |
| 01:42.11 | fetova | y lo que sea de cada quien |
| 01:42.19 | fetova | el que se ve mejor es elive |
| 01:42.19 | marcfp | da igual ... total, tendre que utilizar el programa de la maquina de fotos, por que con el picasa no se hacer cd's de presentacion de imagenes |
| 01:42.28 | fetova | xD |
| 01:42.33 | fetova | yo no se hacer eso :P |
| 01:42.38 | fetova | jajajajaja :D |
| 01:42.39 | marcfp | fetova: .... |
| 01:42.48 | fetova | ? |
| 01:43.04 | marcfp | yo con esto no estoy muy de acuerdo, pero vamos, damos buo como animal de cmpaññia :P |
| 01:43.44 | fetova | :p |
| 01:43.47 | fetova | en que? |
| 01:43.47 | marcfp | (referente a lo de distribuciones de gnu/linux) |
| 01:43.51 | fetova | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 01:44.27 | fetova | nunca he probado freebsd |
| 01:44.34 | fetova | asi que no puedo hablar de el |
| 01:44.49 | marcfp | mmm |
| 01:45.05 | marcfp | si prospero con mis ideas, voy a usar freebsd como servidor |
| 01:45.39 | marcfp | web,smtp,ftp,cvs, radio streaming, etc |
| 01:45.58 | fetova | icecast es muy bueno para audio streaming... |
| 01:46.01 | marcfp | aunque primero lo quiero montar con debian, ta claro :P |
| 01:46.13 | fetova | yo tengo una ubuntu con icecast :p |
| 01:46.21 | fetova | en mi trabajo |
| 01:47.11 | marcfp | ahora voy a montar icecast en mi server |
| 01:47.29 | fetova | que usas para los otros servicios? |
| 01:52.30 | marcfp | web apache |
| 01:52.35 | marcfp | smtp postfix |
| 01:52.39 | marcfp | ftp proftpd |
| 01:52.55 | marcfp | cvs no tengo montado el servidor, lo uso como cliente siempre por ahora |
| 01:53.27 | fetova | tons andamos en los mismos gustos :) |
| 01:54.15 | marcfp | hace mucho tiempo que queria hacer un reproductor de musica con mono gtk ... |
| 01:54.21 | marcfp | pero lo tengo muy abandonado |
| 01:54.34 | marcfp | no me acuerdo ahora que libreriras de audio usaba :S |
| 01:54.56 | marcfp | gstreamer :P |
| 01:54.57 | marcfp | ahora |
| 01:55.19 | fetova | ????? |
| 01:56.11 | marcfp | creo :S |
| 01:57.10 | fetova | aaaa |
| 01:57.25 | fetova | el codec si es gstreamer ;) |
| 01:57.52 | fetova | me refiero al reproductor de musica con mono gt |
| 01:58.40 | marcfp | mono ... no me gusta demasiado ...creo que mirare de canviar-lo |
| 01:59.11 | fetova | cual te gusta? |
| 01:59.20 | fetova | pyton es bueno :) |
| 01:59.58 | marcfp | sips |
| 02:01.05 | marcfp | primero terminare la traduccion del enlightenment i probare de montar el servidor de icecast i luego me lo mirare |
| 02:01.44 | marcfp | pero es una cosa que al haber empezado con mono ... ha quedado degradada bastantes escalones en mi escala de prioridades, la verdad :S |
| 02:02.07 | marcfp | bueno, me voy a dormir |
| 02:02.10 | marcfp | buenas noches |
| 02:02.17 | marcfp | que aqui son las 4 de la madrugada |
| 02:02.25 | keyra | marcfp: nas nas |
| 02:03.01 | fetova | buenas noches marcfp :) |
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| 03:19.48 | Gwildor | apt, wifi-wiz |
| 03:19.49 | apt | it has been said that wifi-wiz is a GUI for configureing wireless networks and is located here http://students.ou.edu/B/David.W.Braker-1/ |
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| 03:37.08 | Bryanstein | Gwildor, you still dling |
| 03:37.11 | Bryanstein | ? |
| 03:37.37 | Bryanstein | it should speed up dramatically here in maybe 3 mines |
| 03:37.39 | Bryanstein | mins |
| 03:38.16 | roxville_ | you invited the shriners convention? |
| 03:39.26 | Gwildor | Bryanstein, nah, im done.. |
| 03:39.34 | Gwildor | less you mounted tha extra dir ;) |
| 03:40.44 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 03:40.46 | Bryanstein | hahaha |
| 03:42.13 | Bryanstein | ok roxville_ I am done...hopefully I can still triple boot my mac when I am done |
| 03:42.43 | Bryanstein | Gwildor, I have over 100 gigs in interesting stuff |
| 03:42.44 | Bryanstein | amigamia, |
| 03:42.50 | Bryanstein | what are you doing over there? |
| 03:43.00 | Gwildor | Bryanstein, share the wealth.. :D |
| 03:43.08 | Bryanstein | you cracked the password to the Xfiles yet amigamia |
| 03:43.09 | Gwildor | dont worry, i only have a 10 gig hdd |
| 03:43.27 | Bryanstein | well it depends on what you are looking for |
| 03:43.29 | Gwildor | 3.7G |
| 03:43.34 | Gwildor | free |
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| 03:44.07 | roxville_ | :) |
| 03:44.37 | Gwildor | lots junk to DL, though.. |
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| 10:48.19 | Cr3iKon | Hi, i have a problem with manager themes in e17 |
| 10:48.33 | keyra | Cr3iKon: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 10:49.37 | Cr3iKon | Ok, but other people can use theme's in e17 :S |
| 10:50.42 | Cr3iKon | and my e17 don't read the themes in /.e/e/themes/*.edj |
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| 11:40.53 | Elive_user44 | hi |
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| 11:42.11 | Elive_user44 | I'have a problem with my installer elive gem : my root password don't work anymore |
| 11:42.17 | Elive_user44 | installed |
| 11:42.25 | keyra | Elive_user44: Do you have problems with the password of root not accepted ? This problem is solved with a updated installer, please go to the liveCD mode and update the installer, then install again |
| 11:43.30 | Elive_user44 | i'have to reinstall elive? |
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| 12:12.43 | Jonah | hey guys does anyone know when the next elive is coming out after this gem one. i'm itching for the new e17 but don't wanna break my system upgrading to test repos |
| 12:12.57 | keyra | Jonah: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
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| 12:15.48 | Jonah | how safe is the test branch, will it break? |
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| 12:35.05 | Jonah | hi i decided to upgrade elive to the tests repo but getting an error can anyone please help |
| 12:35.19 | keyra | Jonah: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
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| 12:35.51 | Jonah | http://pastebin.ca/719576 |
| 12:39.58 | Elive_user16 | #Bergen |
| 12:40.11 | LinuxNIT | dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/entrance-themes_cvs20070928_all.deb |
| 12:40.24 | LinuxNIT | be sure you set the entrance theme to the E17 default |
| 12:40.36 | LinuxNIT | not the elive default but the e17 default |
| 12:41.44 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, how do i do that? |
| 12:41.55 | LinuxNIT | in elpanel... |
| 12:42.04 | LinuxNIT | or cd /usr/share/entrance/themes |
| 12:42.08 | LinuxNIT | rm defualt.edj |
| 12:42.21 | LinuxNIT | ln -s e17-default.edj default.edj |
| 12:42.32 | Jonah | LinuxNIT,http://pastebin.ca/719582 |
| 12:43.04 | LinuxNIT | so? |
| 12:43.08 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, is this test version safe, i may regret this... |
| 12:43.16 | LinuxNIT | i dont have trouble with it |
| 12:44.32 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, ok i set the theme as you said and did the dist-upgrade, is there anything else i should do before i reboot? |
| 12:44.50 | LinuxNIT | did it install e17? |
| 12:44.54 | LinuxNIT | you dont need to reboot |
| 12:45.00 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, also will it keep any modules or settings i've made to current system or do i lose everything? |
| 12:45.13 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, oh i don't need to reboot huh |
| 12:45.32 | LinuxNIT | e17 will remove all current settings due to the major updates |
| 12:45.39 | LinuxNIT | ccurrent e17 settings anyway |
| 12:45.52 | LinuxNIT | just logout login |
| 12:45.59 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, ok cool thanks i'll give it a whirl |
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| 12:50.24 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, it didnt work |
| 12:50.37 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, i'm now talking to you on another computer |
| 12:52.20 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, i must have some missing package or something.... what should i try? |
| 12:52.54 | Jonah | LinuxNIT, i just did an apt-get distupgrade and it added a few more upgrade pacakges in and now it kinda comes on looking a mess |
| 12:53.44 | mathmanp | e17 doesn't start or what ? |
| 12:54.53 | Jonah | mathmanp, yeah well when reboot i get a prompt login bash style.... |
| 12:54.59 | Jonah | then i have to type to startx |
| 12:55.10 | Jonah | then it comes on but no icons or anything |
| 12:57.28 | Jonah | everything is a mess |
| 12:58.08 | Jonah | is there anything i can do to fix it? |
| 12:59.33 | mathmanp | startx starts e16 afaik and if you do it as root it is configured to look ugly. entrance seems to be broken. try uninstalling entrance and then reinstalling it. |
| 12:59.50 | mathmanp | have to go now |
| 13:00.18 | Jonah | ok i'll try |
| 13:02.06 | Jonah | ok rebooting, so what should i do instead of startx |
| 13:04.25 | ETFargis | its /etc/init.d/gdm strart |
| 13:05.39 | Jonah | oh no it's giving this error now. Xsession unable to launch e16-gnome" xsession --- e16gnome not found falling back to dfault session |
| 13:07.33 | Jonah | ah changed it on login windows to e17 and it's come on, again had errors but getting there |
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| 13:10.57 | *** topic/#elive is Welcome to Elive || MacBook users please join #elivemac ||::::::::::::::: Elive Gem is OUT :::::::::::::::::|| Some unofficial torrents serving up bad or malicious versions of elive, make sure to your version of Elive is a official one, verify the authencity with the signature shared with the iso || Elive Gem Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCJ8QDfA95U |
| 13:15.01 | Jonah | is there anything that shouldn't be installed from my old system, things keep crashing then elive recovers and removes all enabled modules again and have to start from scratch each time getting everything back up |
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| 13:27.17 | Jonah | it seems to be modules that are the problem, i can't enable hardly anything or it crashes and restarts with them not enabled again. what do i do? |
| 13:29.34 | ETFargis | you could try the old "hammer and broom" approach |
| 13:32.12 | Jonah | ETFargis, how do i get the dock at bottom of screen without crashing it all again... |
| 13:33.23 | ETFargis | no idea I am a a semi n00b |
| 13:34.00 | ETFargis | google is your friend |
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| 13:37.02 | Jonah | does anyone in here use the test elive? it's supposed to be fairly stable so how come i can't do anything in it? |
| 13:41.11 | Jonah | hi can anyone please help me out. i've upgraded to tests repo but stuff from old system i think is messing it up |
| 13:41.25 | keyra | Jonah: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 13:41.28 | Jonah | does anyone know what modules or apps should be removed and what should be installed |
| 13:45.42 | Jonah | is there a way to downgrade back to the stable version? |
| 13:49.18 | Jonah | ahhh i've really made a big mess with this, can anyone please help me get it back how it was or do i have to reinstall fresh? |
| 13:50.18 | Jonah | ping |
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| 14:40.27 | svalovic | jonah, try removing entrance and entrance-themes then install it again |
| 14:41.02 | svalovic | try uninstalling all e17 modules that have different version as e17 |
| 14:41.29 | Jonah | i'm backing up my home and gonna reinstall, gonna try the live cd of elbuntu instead, does anyone know if this is better than elive or not? |
| 14:42.29 | svalovic | e17 is ok on elive, just uninstall entrance before distupgrade and install entrance after it |
| 14:43.30 | svalovic | I didnt do distupgrade, i just installed new version of e17 and related packages |
| 14:44.30 | svalovic | entrance has some problems when not uninstalled |
| 14:47.40 | roxville_ | Jonah, he is right |
| 14:48.22 | roxville_ | you can start into e16... or into e17 with "startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start" |
| 14:48.45 | Jonah | well as i'm reinstalling now anyway i might as well give elbuntu a bash |
| 14:48.51 | roxville_ | if you do not have entrance |
| 14:48.57 | Ezep | roxville_: are you programmer? :) |
| 14:49.08 | roxville_ | Ezep, programmer? no |
| 14:49.19 | Ezep | only a linux fanatic? |
| 14:49.26 | Ezep | LOL! |
| 14:49.31 | roxville_ | oh look, i did it! |
| 14:49.45 | roxville_ | Ezep, i am an elive fanatic |
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| 14:49.59 | Ezep | that's right =) |
| 14:50.02 | roxville_ | Jonah, there is NO NEED to reinstall |
| 14:50.20 | roxville_ | but ok...it's your machine :) |
| 14:50.41 | roxville_ | Ezep, you running the tests repo? |
| 14:50.55 | keyra | roxville_: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 14:51.02 | Ezep | no, i have debian right now |
| 14:51.09 | roxville_ | ok |
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| 14:53.01 | Jonah | roxville, but i did the dist-upgrade, so how do i downgrade again with reinstalling? stuff was removed and upgraded and new stuff was added |
| 14:56.01 | roxville_ | just like svalovic said... you reinstall entrance |
| 14:57.22 | roxville_ | but as far as going back to elive default e17... yes i guess reinstall with the "upgrade" option is pretty fast and easy |
| 14:59.46 | Gwildor | roxville_, :D |
| 15:04.40 | roxville_ | :) |
| 15:04.59 | roxville_ | crap family came back home.. gtg for a bit |
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| 15:33.00 | Wizard | łóźżć |
| 15:33.04 | Wizard | it works! |
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| 16:33.29 | PetoKraus | help? I HAVE got entrance-themes installed, and still, i can't pick e17 default theme, since it is not on the list... suggestions? |
| 16:33.43 | keyra | PetoKraus: don't worry, this is planned for the next iso ;) |
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| 17:11.02 | marcfp | hi |
| 17:11.11 | Ezep | í |
| 17:13.01 | DaRtH_VaDeR | ó |
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| 19:01.14 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 19:01.31 | svalovic | good evening |
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| 19:01.47 | Elive_user8 | Ho |
| 19:01.52 | Elive_user8 | -Hi |
| 19:02.22 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 19:03.33 | taime1 | help |
| 19:03.42 | taime1 | i have no sound on my laptop at all... |
| 19:03.47 | taime1 | any ideas? |
| 19:09.57 | svalovic | what laptop do you have? |
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| 19:10.45 | taime1 | generic |
| 19:11.57 | taime1 | i cant even use my wireless.. |
| 19:12.06 | taime1 | how do you configure wireless in elive? |
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| 19:16.55 | Gwildor | is your card working taime1 ? |
| 19:17.04 | taime1 | there you are |
| 19:17.10 | taime1 | i messaged you in linuxpeople |
| 19:17.11 | Gwildor | yeah, stay here |
| 19:17.16 | taime1 | k |
| 19:17.19 | Gwildor | yeah, im talking to you there too |
| 19:17.26 | Gwildor | is your card working? |
| 19:17.29 | taime1 | well, no sound, and i dont know where to go to enter my essid and wpa key |
| 19:17.40 | Gwildor | apt wifi-wiz |
| 19:17.41 | apt | it has been said that wifi-wiz is a GUI for configureing wireless networks and is located here http://students.ou.edu/B/David.W.Braker-1/ |
| 19:17.55 | Gwildor | http://students.ou.edu/B/David.W.Braker-1/downloads/wifi-wiz.tar |
| 19:17.56 | taime1 | well thats great, if i could get online |
| 19:18.01 | taime1 | haha |
| 19:18.09 | Gwildor | untar that... dpkg -i wifi-wiz.deb |
| 19:18.10 | taime1 | well, i have a usb drive... han gon |
| 19:18.17 | Gwildor | :D |
| 19:18.21 | Gwildor | no ethernet on it? |
| 19:18.38 | taime1 | yeah, but no plugs |
| 19:18.49 | taime1 | lemme get my wireless up real quick |
| 19:18.57 | taime1 | then i have to figure out why i get no sound |
| 19:18.58 | Gwildor | well, ive gotta go inna few mins.. |
| 19:19.03 | taime1 | dammit |
| 19:19.12 | Gwildor | sound is either irq or no module |
| 19:19.18 | Gwildor | you checked alsa? |
| 19:19.26 | Gwildor | alsa-config even? |
| 19:20.25 | taime1 | no such device |
| 19:20.33 | taime1 | it doesnt recognize my sound card i guess |
| 19:20.38 | Gwildor | ok, youll need the module then |
| 19:20.40 | taime1 | but its onboard.. so hows that? |
| 19:20.51 | Gwildor | lets get net working.....then do sound |
| 19:20.58 | taime1 | k, one minute |
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| 19:24.06 | Gwildor | taime1, ? |
| 19:24.09 | Gwildor | WB roxville |
| 19:24.31 | Gwildor | roxville, we need to get thana to install wifi-wiz at default :D |
| 19:24.35 | Gwildor | start a petition |
| 19:24.44 | roxville | lol ok |
| 19:25.00 | roxville | is it that good? |
| 19:25.01 | Gwildor | good to see youve lost your tail |
| 19:25.07 | Gwildor | i love it, it really nice.. |
| 19:25.15 | Gwildor | not gnome/kde dependant either |
| 19:25.16 | roxville | cool :) |
| 19:25.25 | Gwildor | remebers my previouse netowrks.... |
| 19:25.42 | Gwildor | i go to work, im connected (w/ wep),... i come home...im connected |
| 19:26.15 | Gwildor | just python is all you need....and its already there |
| 19:27.09 | svalovic | taime, type ifconfig -a |
| 19:27.12 | Gwildor | brb, gotta take the dog out |
| 19:28.55 | svalovic | taime1, do you see something like wlan0 or rausb0 after ifconfig -a? (or tell us what you see) |
| 19:29.12 | taime1 | how do you run wifi-wiz? |
| 19:29.44 | svalovic | from console? |
| 19:30.03 | taime1 | at all |
| 19:30.24 | taime1 | just installed it.. i just want to use it |
| 19:30.37 | svalovic | in a console you type wifi-wiz |
| 19:30.41 | svalovic | maybe as a root |
| 19:30.46 | taime1 | ah... prolly as root |
| 19:30.49 | svalovic | you can also try network-admin |
| 19:31.16 | taime1 | command not found on wifi-wiz |
| 19:31.43 | svalovic | where have you installed it? |
| 19:31.47 | svalovic | or how |
| 19:31.54 | taime1 | with the .deb |
| 19:31.59 | taime1 | i just ran it and it installed |
| 19:32.33 | svalovic | well I don't use it, so i don't know |
| 19:33.45 | svalovic | i think LinuxNIT could know more... |
| 19:34.20 | svalovic | try searching wifi-wiz on your system |
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| 19:35.05 | Gwildor | taime1, you did dpkg -i ? |
| 19:35.55 | Gwildor | taime1, HEY! |
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| 19:36.25 | Elive_user20 | bonsoir a tous |
| 19:36.51 | taime1 | dammit |
| 19:36.55 | taime1 | sorry |
| 19:36.58 | taime1 | im not ignoring you |
| 19:37.02 | taime1 | im on two computers |
| 19:37.11 | Gwildor | no problem |
| 19:37.16 | taime1 | no, gwildor, i just ran it and it installed with gdebi |
| 19:37.20 | Gwildor | press alt-esc and type Wifi-wiz |
| 19:37.49 | Gwildor | wtf is this gdebi... i assume a front end for dpkg |
| 19:38.00 | taime1 | it is |
| 19:38.04 | taime1 | yeah, nothing again |
| 19:38.10 | taime1 | its as if it didnt install |
| 19:38.19 | Gwildor | do dpkg then |
| 19:38.21 | taime1 | it wont run in a terminal or in run command dialog |
| 19:38.25 | taime1 | k... on sec |
| 19:38.29 | Gwildor | in terminal you have to do it as root |
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| 19:38.43 | taime1 | tried as root |
| 19:38.46 | taime1 | still no go |
| 19:39.05 | Gwildor | are you tab completeing? |
| 19:39.22 | Gwildor | wifi<tab> |
| 19:39.26 | Gwildor | lowercase from terminal |
| 19:39.32 | svalovic | try to find it somewhere in /usr/bin or elsewhere on your system |
| 19:39.32 | Gwildor | uppercase from alt-esc |
| 19:40.13 | Gwildor | /usr/share |
| 19:40.13 | taime1 | oh... python not installed |
| 19:40.18 | taime1 | fuuuuuu |
| 19:40.22 | Gwildor | heh |
| 19:40.46 | Gwildor | i thought it was at defualt |
| 19:40.51 | svalovic | i would try to do it from terminal |
| 19:40.55 | taime1 | lemme just disable wpa |
| 19:40.58 | svalovic | use ifconfig with iwconfig |
| 19:41.20 | svalovic | what do you see after iwconfig |
| 19:41.46 | svalovic | it should list your wifi device |
| 19:42.00 | taime1 | oh it does |
| 19:42.08 | taime1 | im just trying to connect to the ap |
| 19:42.13 | taime1 | with wpa enabled |
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| 19:42.16 | taime1 | i disabled it tho |
| 19:42.46 | svalovic | paste here what you see |
| 19:45.56 | taime1 | it wont connect to an open network |
| 19:45.59 | taime1 | wtf? |
| 19:46.26 | Gwildor | install python, see what wifi-wiz shows you |
| 19:46.36 | svalovic | what do you use to connect? |
| 19:46.51 | taime1 | i dont understand the question |
| 19:47.02 | svalovic | have you tried network-admin or networkconfig? |
| 19:47.09 | taime1 | yeah |
| 19:47.32 | taime1 | says it cant be configured after like a minute of trying |
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| 19:48.42 | svalovic | I was also unable to connect so i used ifconfig with iwconfig, we can try it but you have to tell us what do you see after ifconfig -a, what after iwconfig and so on |
| 19:50.11 | taime1 | what do you need to see? |
| 19:50.26 | taime1 | i cant paste cuz that box has no internet connection |
| 19:50.47 | Gwildor | oh yeah, your not tethered. |
| 19:51.15 | Gwildor | use ur flashdrive to move some python .debs |
| 19:53.03 | taime1 | lemme unplug this box and plug in the laptop... icant deal with this no internet shit |
| 19:53.55 | svalovic | i have put something like this to my /etc/network/interfaces file: iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 19:54.01 | svalovic | then |
| 19:54.14 | svalovic | pre-up ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 19:54.30 | svalovic | pre-up iwconfig wlan0 mode managed |
| 19:54.47 | svalovic | pre-up iwconfig wlan0 channel 3 |
| 19:55.08 | svalovic | pre-up iwconfig wlan0 essid myid |
| 19:55.30 | svalovic | pre-up iwconfig wlan0 key xxxxxxxxxxx |
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| 19:55.36 | svalovic | auto wlan0 |
| 19:55.48 | svalovic | you can try something similar |
| 19:56.07 | taime1 | okay.. im back |
| 19:57.01 | taime1 | installing wifi-wiz... |
| 19:57.09 | taime1 | python tbh |
| 19:57.31 | svalovic | i have put something like this to my /etc/network/interfaces file: iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 19:57.34 | svalovic | svalovicthen |
| 19:57.34 | svalovic | svalovicpre-up ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 19:57.35 | svalovic | svalovicpre-up iwconfig wlan0 mode managed |
| 19:57.36 | svalovic | svalovicpre-up iwconfig wlan0 channel 3 |
| 19:57.37 | svalovic | 21:55svalovicpre-up iwconfig wlan0 essid myid |
| 19:57.38 | svalovic | svalovicpre-up iwconfig wlan0 key xxxxxxxxxxx |
| 19:57.39 | svalovic | svalovicauto wlan0 |
| 19:57.41 | svalovic | svalovicyou can try something similar |
| 19:57.54 | svalovic | you didnt see this, so i pasted it again |
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| 20:58.27 | Elive_user50 | Hi there |
| 20:58.27 | withoutclass | hi |
| 20:58.56 | Elive_user50 | I was wondering if fglrx driver is enable in the boot process ? |
| 20:59.07 | withoutclass | huh? |
| 20:59.07 | Elive_user50 | because I didn't see some module fglrx |
| 20:59.21 | withoutclass | did you choose fglrx when you installed? |
| 20:59.33 | Elive_user50 | I've an Nvidia card |
| 20:59.43 | Elive_user50 | just wanted to know if there is fglrx module ? |
| 20:59.44 | withoutclass | fglrx is ATI |
| 20:59.51 | withoutclass | not nvidia |
| 20:59.55 | Elive_user50 | because I didn't see it in /lib/modules/* |
| 20:59.59 | Elive_user50 | I know ;-) |
| 21:00.01 | Elive_user50 | just wondering |
| 21:00.08 | Elive_user50 | for a friend who has an ATI |
| 21:00.36 | Elive_user50 | but it's not present in the default elive CD ? |
| 21:00.44 | Elive_user50 | I have to installed the modules ? |
| 21:00.50 | withoutclass | you have to choose it |
| 21:00.53 | withoutclass | then it is installed |
| 21:00.59 | withoutclass | the installer will prompt for it |
| 21:01.12 | Elive_user50 | ah ok, in the boot process |
| 21:01.19 | Elive_user50 | but why it's not present by default ? |
| 21:01.33 | Elive_user50 | because nvidia drivers are provided by default |
| 21:01.38 | withoutclass | becuase not everyone uses ati |
| 21:01.40 | withoutclass | it is in default |
| 21:01.49 | withoutclass | it just didnt give you the option because you have nvidia |
| 21:01.52 | withoutclass | :) |
| 21:02.01 | withoutclass | "smart" installer :) |
| 21:02.15 | Elive_user50 | ls -R 2.6.18-elive/* | grep fglrx didn't match |
| 21:02.33 | withoutclass | its on the cd |
| 21:02.34 | Elive_user50 | find . -name fglrx* |
| 21:02.35 | withoutclass | trust me |
| 21:03.08 | Elive_user50 | ok so in the boot process you can choose flgrx ? |
| 21:03.15 | withoutclass | yes |
| 21:03.19 | Elive_user50 | okidoki |
| 21:03.22 | withoutclass | :) |
| 21:03.22 | Elive_user50 | great |
| 21:03.31 | Elive_user50 | great livecd |
| 21:03.41 | withoutclass | yes =D |
| 21:05.22 | Elive_user50 | by the way if there another tool to configure wifi enable by default in the livecd |
| 21:05.22 | Elive_user50 | other then the gnome network manager ? |
| 21:06.07 | withoutclass | mm |
| 21:06.11 | withoutclass | not by default |
| 21:06.15 | withoutclass | apt wifi-wiz |
| 21:06.15 | apt | it has been said that wifi-wiz is a GUI for configureing wireless networks and is located here http://students.ou.edu/B/David.W.Braker-1/ |
| 21:06.20 | withoutclass | use this thing |
| 21:06.23 | withoutclass | very good |
| 21:06.40 | Elive_user50 | ok thanks ;-) |
| 21:07.53 | Elive_user50 | and by the way how to use edj files ? |
| 21:08.19 | Elive_user50 | I didn't succeed with the Enlightement Configuration Panel |
| 21:08.44 | withoutclass | i dont know =X |
| 21:08.47 | withoutclass | im not good with them |
| 21:08.49 | withoutclass | sorry |
| 21:08.54 | Elive_user50 | I have my file on ~/.e/e/backgrounds |
| 21:08.57 | Elive_user50 | no problemo ;-) |
| 21:09.13 | Elive_user50 | but I can't see it in the background settings |
| 21:11.41 | wasynyt | that is because you have new backgrounds on old e17 |
| 21:12.01 | wasynyt | testing e17 can be installed if wanted.. but it is not that stable |
| 21:14.33 | wasynyt | elive testing repo |
| 21:14.47 | keyra | wasynyt: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 21:14.54 | wasynyt | keyra thanks |
| 21:15.09 | keyra | wasynyt: welcome :) |
| 21:15.50 | withoutclass | oo first time i have seen keyra be helpfull |
| 21:15.51 | withoutclass | xD |
| 21:16.04 | keyra | withoutclass: help ? Hey, slow down cowboy, I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville |
| 21:16.05 | wasynyt | heh that happens |
| 21:16.15 | wasynyt | here she goes again |
| 21:16.43 | wasynyt | ;P |
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| 21:22.05 | Elive_user50 | thanks |
| 21:22.06 | Elive_user50 | bye |
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| 21:50.26 | wasynyt_mac | good night people |
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| 22:47.52 | Theoden | PrinceAMD: You around? |
| 22:49.25 | Theoden | Can someone tell me where - in elive-testing - that one can edit the menus ... it's all chan ged since default Gem. |
| 22:50.21 | svalovic | update-menus? |
| 22:50.51 | Theoden | I want to edit them though. |
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| 22:59.52 | Theoden | Can anyone tell me where - in elive-testing - that one can edit the menus ... it's all chan ged since default Gem. |
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| 23:09.58 | mathmanp | Theoden, http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_and_Efreet is the only refrerence I know |
| 23:10.18 | Theoden | thx |
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| 23:39.59 | Elive_user48 | hi - i have a machine 2hdds, 1st hdd has(d) winxp and hdb has elive isntalled... i had problems with the grub not running, now i have it installed (grub-install /dev/hda) and i get a grub menu but NO OPTION for WinXP, even though the partition (/dev/hda1) is there. How do I fix this? |
| 23:40.14 | keyra | Elive_user48: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 23:40.43 | Elive_user48 | keyra, i did ask... how do i go about getting WinXP on my grub menu? |
| 23:42.35 | Elive_user48 | doesn't grub-install detect other OS installations? |
| 23:42.52 | Elive_user48 | i mean shouldn't - cuz it obviously didn't pick up my xp install |
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| 23:58.32 | Elive_user48 | ugh |