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| 03:21.31 | Elive_user59 | hello |
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| 04:51.48 | meztlixictli | hi all |
| 04:52.17 | meztlixictli | i am searching enlightenment package .deb |
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| 11:18.32 | Elive_user29 | hey guys, got major probs |
| 11:18.40 | Elive_user29 | i just upgraded elive to the tests repo |
| 11:18.54 | keyra | Elive_user29: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 11:19.01 | Elive_user29 | but now everytime i log in i get an error saying it's turned off all my modules |
| 11:19.17 | Elive_user29 | even with no modules enabled i get a recover error. any ideas anyone? |
| 11:19.31 | Elive_user29 | i mean even with them all disabled it does it |
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| 12:23.31 | jonah | LinuxNIT, hi would you mind helping me out, you helped me install a rt61 driver once and was hoping you could help me with it again as i had to reinstall elive |
| 12:24.55 | jonah | or anyone who can help me out please. i downloaded the driver and then tried to make but it says it can't do it. i've installed the kernel-source and headers |
| 12:34.07 | jonah | when i type make i get this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-elive/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 12:34.07 | jonah | rt61.ko failed to build! |
| 12:34.07 | jonah | make: *** [module] Error 1 |
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| 12:46.38 | Wizard | caim: ping |
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| 12:53.11 | jonah | hi can anyone please help me install the driver for my wireless card, it wont make |
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| 13:04.19 | jonah | would anyone be kind enough to ping anyone who can help me please, LinuxNIT would be good... i'm registered but it's not letting me identify on nickserv so must of got summin wrong |
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| 13:12.43 | caim | Wizard: pong |
| 13:16.15 | caim | jonah: its enough asking here on the channel, dont ping anyone. |
| 13:19.11 | jonah | ok sorry just desperate to get it up and running |
| 13:19.47 | jonah | i just need someone to help me build this driver module, typing make isnt working and i think it's something simple to fix for someone in the know |
| 13:21.55 | caim | i see, read the README file and search for help on google... and if that doenst help wait for everubody to come back from work |
| 13:22.12 | caim | if they dont help is because they are busy |
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| 13:23.10 | jonah | caim, looks like i'm waiting then, i read the readme and it just said to install the headers and bang it in |
| 13:23.57 | caim | jonah: what about google? |
| 13:24.54 | jonah | caim, can't find my problem or much about elive really that is similar |
| 13:27.10 | FossZombie | Hi |
| 13:27.40 | caim | jonah: search for help in linux not elive |
| 13:28.59 | FossZombie | jonah, i can help |
| 13:29.08 | FossZombie | sometimes drivers require more than headers sometimes require full source |
| 13:29.39 | FossZombie | but make sure the right version is installed, type uname -r to see what you need |
| 13:29.49 | FossZombie | apt-get search for the right one |
| 13:30.08 | FossZombie | try to remove and then reinstall the headers, if that doesnt work get the source. |
| 13:31.15 | caim | http://www.physics.nmt.edu/~rsonnenf/linuxcontrib/ralink-2561-rt61/ |
| 13:31.26 | caim | jonah: that link should help |
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| 13:39.29 | jonah | FossZombie, what should i try first? |
| 13:39.40 | jonah | FossZombie, uname thing? |
| 13:41.43 | caim | jonah: read the link i gave you |
| 13:41.57 | caim | follow the steps |
| 13:42.27 | caim | and it will work |
| 13:42.28 | FossZombie | the uname thing gets ya your version |
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| 13:45.09 | jonah | FossZombie, ok thanks |
| 13:47.53 | jonah | Fossbank, yeah got the right source and header and doesn't work still |
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| 13:54.00 | jonah | caim, i'm a bit scared of messing something up, could you guide me from that website on what i need to change, i have the elive source and headers so do i change the makefile to point to them or something? |
| 13:58.17 | FossZombie | jonah, I wish I could take time to help but im very busy. what driver are you trying to build? |
| 13:58.55 | FossZombie | oh ralink |
| 13:58.59 | FossZombie | ummmmm |
| 13:59.06 | FossZombie | I thought we had that driver in elive |
| 14:00.29 | jonah | FossZombie, sorry we do but my card needs the legacy cvs rt61 specific one |
| 14:00.45 | jonah | FossZombie, for some reason there is a bug with my card and it won't work with the ralink one in elive |
| 14:00.50 | FossZombie | oh... |
| 14:01.05 | FossZombie | maybe you could also try ndiswrapper |
| 14:01.06 | jonah | FossZombie, i've downloaded the right driver and have it ready but it won't make |
| 14:01.14 | FossZombie | I know there was one card that had problems |
| 14:01.19 | keyra | FossZombie: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Ndiswrapper |
| 14:01.20 | FossZombie | and most people ended up using wrapper |
| 14:01.45 | jonah | FossZombie, this is the driver http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt61-cvs-daily.tar.gz |
| 14:02.34 | FossZombie | If you would, include that link, make a bug report if it doesn't already exist |
| 14:02.36 | jonah | FossZombie, thing is the make worked fine on ubuntu and fedora and the card worked great, i'm sure it's just not looking in the right place for the source/headers or whatever - if someone could just amend it or help me make it |
| 14:02.48 | keyra | FossZombie: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 14:02.55 | FossZombie | and see if thana can make a package for that driver |
| 14:04.07 | FossZombie | check your symlinks too |
| 14:04.15 | jonah | FossZombie, could you help me to make it in meantime, i'll do the bug report for others but i could do with this working in short term |
| 14:04.27 | FossZombie | the makefile, edit it, put in your own paths |
| 14:04.53 | jonah | FossZombie, i've had a look at it but it's like greek to me |
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| 14:07.52 | FossZombie | at the top of the make file |
| 14:08.08 | FossZombie | KERNDIR := /path/to/sources |
| 14:08.15 | FossZombie | it seems that might work |
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| 14:08.42 | Wizard | bah :/ |
| 14:09.18 | jonah | FossZombie, do you know what the path is? |
| 14:10.02 | FossZombie | not off the top of my head you should be able to find it though |
| 14:10.50 | FossZombie | usually somewhere in /usr/src/ I think |
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| 14:11.45 | caim | hi Wizard |
| 14:11.49 | caim | how are you doing? |
| 14:15.41 | jonah | FossZombie, ok changed it to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.18-elive and that gives me this error: root@EliveCanvas[/home/jonah/Desktop/rt61-cvs-2007100406/Module]# make |
| 14:15.42 | jonah | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-elive/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 14:15.42 | jonah | rt61.ko failed to build! |
| 14:15.42 | jonah | make: *** [module] Error 1 |
| 14:16.31 | caim | jonah: did you commented the other lines? |
| 14:17.11 | FossZombie | ok then it probly needs full kernel source not just headers |
| 14:17.39 | jonah | caim, which other lines? |
| 14:18.01 | jonah | FossZombie, so is that a different path? |
| 14:20.16 | FossZombie | oh wait, you used kernel-source that should work, it would be kernel-headers if it were just the headers |
| 14:20.32 | FossZombie | logn story short I'm clueless i dont know why it wont compile, if its a cvs version maybe it's not complete |
| 14:20.41 | FossZombie | I'd contact that project for support |
| 14:21.01 | jonah | FossZombie, no it def should compile it's something to do with how elive is, symlinks or something, i've compiled it on fedora and ubuntu etc |
| 14:21.08 | jonah | exact same driver version |
| 14:21.40 | FossZombie | if you put the bug report in, and include those error messages, we will try to get around to it |
| 14:21.54 | keyra | FossZombie: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 14:21.59 | FossZombie | right now im working on another project plus my guard card just cleared so im on the phone with work right now |
| 14:22.03 | FossZombie | so im pretty busy |
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| 14:33.37 | MADL | buenas / hi all |
| 14:33.51 | keyra | MADL: nas nas |
| 14:34.00 | jonah | FossZombie, ok i've put it here when you get time, thanks http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=166 |
| 14:40.46 | FossZombie | http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/10/03/youre-doing-it-wrong-6/born-to-fail/ |
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| 15:39.52 | kevin__ | plop |
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| 17:10.52 | Theoden | g/0^0\gle |
| 17:12.22 | Chi11y | totally |
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| 17:15.45 | Chi11y | whats up people? |
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| 17:18.29 | vipeltaejae | some problems with linux ;) |
| 17:19.00 | Chi11y | ok, what problems? |
| 17:21.30 | vipeltaejae | touchpad is working but not like it shoud |
| 17:21.47 | Chi11y | ok =\ |
| 17:23.54 | vipeltaejae | also when i connect my ps2 mouse it works fine but then suddenly it goes crazy |
| 17:35.02 | roxville | wow, the crazy mouse disease... |
| 17:35.06 | roxville | not good.. |
| 17:35.22 | roxville | give him/her two aspirins and call me in the morning |
| 17:35.57 | roxville | ok, i could not help it, sorry |
| 17:36.23 | roxville | and... unfortunately, my knowledge of touch pads is nil to zero |
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| 17:48.06 | Open_Space_ | vipeltaejae, both are on same port I suppose, I have same problem sometimes but it's because touchpad has bad connection wires, if I bend or push comp it works. if this is your case try to disable touchpad trough bios |
| 17:48.20 | keyra | Open_Space_: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 17:48.37 | Open_Space_ | keyra, shut up! |
| 17:48.51 | keyra | Open_Space_: :-# |
| 17:50.42 | ggordon | what's the next ver. of Elive going to be called? |
| 17:50.56 | ggordon | Gem2? |
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| 17:54.28 | jonah | roxville, hi thanks for answering my bug, i've submitted my problem to the forum instead |
| 17:54.58 | jonah | if anyone can help out please: http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?5,878 |
| 17:55.33 | jonah | my other problem is my keyboard seems to be set to US |
| 17:55.50 | roxville | np jonah ... sorry to bounce you around, but we gotta try to keep things where they belong |
| 17:56.36 | jonah | roxville, no that's cool, it's just good to get help, i've been hitting brick walls |
| 17:59.47 | roxville | ya, i know it can be very frustrating |
| 18:00.27 | roxville | it is almost equally frustrating for me to not know everything so i can help :/ |
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| 18:05.02 | jonah | roxville, i remember you welcoming to elive, i then took a detour and installed fedora to try dr17 when my elive messed up, then i tried ubuntu with e17, then olive, now i'm back here, this time with tests repo working so far! |
| 18:05.16 | keyra | jonah: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 18:05.41 | roxville | good :) |
| 18:06.46 | roxville | Thana went back to belgium yesterday top sort out some things... when he comes back in... less than a week, he WILL start working on the next version |
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| 18:17.16 | Elive_user86 | Just finished another Elive install and I have to say, it's the best distribution I've come across so far! |
| 18:17.27 | Elive_user86 | Great Work! |
| 18:17.39 | Elive_user86 | Thanks to everybody involved |
| 18:22.37 | roxville | thank you Elive_user86 |
| 18:22.58 | roxville | now, elive has only one developer, his nick is Thanatermesis |
| 18:23.24 | Elive_user86 | Hi roxville, I remember you and him on this chat (back at 0.6 or so) |
| 18:23.25 | roxville | but we are a few who try to help out a little |
| 18:23.35 | roxville | hehe ok |
| 18:23.41 | roxville | well, welcome back :) |
| 18:23.50 | Elive_user86 | Been messing with ubuntu since...but yeah I'm back :) |
| 18:23.53 | roxville | what was your nick back then? |
| 18:24.02 | Elive_user86 | probably Remo |
| 18:24.09 | Elive_user86 | :) |
| 18:24.38 | Elive_user86 | good thing you guys kept working on it! |
| 18:24.41 | roxville | hmmm yes it does ring a bell... but i can't be sure... i banged my head on a cupboard door this morning... |
| 18:24.49 | Elive_user86 | oh no |
| 18:24.50 | roxville | :) |
| 18:24.58 | roxville | nah, juyst kidding :) |
| 18:25.20 | Elive_user86 | I banged mine on the desk (trying to get some code done)....not kidding ;) |
| 18:27.32 | roxville | hehe... it can happen |
| 18:28.24 | jonah | roxville, any idea how i get my keyboard set to gb or uk, there is no option for it in the locale thing in configuration menu |
| 18:29.01 | roxville | jonah open a terminal, become root and type "keybconf" |
| 18:29.24 | roxville | i HOPE there's an option for it |
| 18:30.09 | roxville | there is a "British" option... hope that one will do it for ya :) |
| 18:30.22 | assasukasse | i wanted to know, if i change debian repo to testing in elive, what would it happens? |
| 18:30.28 | Elive_user86 | cool could just fix mine too :) |
| 18:30.37 | keyra | assasukasse: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 18:31.33 | roxville | assasukasse, i have no idea... why don't you try, and share your experiences with us? |
| 18:32.03 | assasukasse | roxville: because i am afraid i break my pc and tomorrow i am gonna bring the lappy with me since i have a meeting :D if i crack it, they will crack me :D |
| 18:32.19 | Elive_user86 | Is there a CPU usage module? |
| 18:32.31 | jonah | roxville, root@EliveCanvas[~]# keybconf |
| 18:32.31 | jonah | (keybconf:8386): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 18:32.31 | jonah | root@EliveCanvas[~]# |
| 18:32.55 | Elive_user86 | BTW Temp and Battery worked right away, pretty impressed :) |
| 18:35.04 | roxville | jonah, wtf? |
| 18:36.18 | roxville | jonah, you can not open keybconf? |
| 18:36.18 | PetoKraus | Elive_user86, there is one, i don't know if it's available for the out-of-box elive, but try searching synaptic for "modules e17" |
| 18:36.30 | jonah | roxville, yeah what's that all about? |
| 18:37.35 | roxville | jonah, i just opened it, to make sure there was a british option |
| 18:37.52 | roxville | and i do it ever so often to change to swedish layout |
| 18:37.56 | Elive_user86 | thanks |
| 18:38.00 | roxville | this is too weird |
| 18:38.30 | roxville | jonah, try from elpanel, behing the user icon |
| 18:38.36 | roxville | behind |
| 18:39.57 | jonah | roxville, thanks yeah that's worked cool |
| 18:41.37 | roxville | ok, good |
| 18:42.00 | roxville | you have some sort of issue, but... i don't know what |
| 18:42.19 | roxville | maybe a locale prob... |
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| 18:50.56 | Elive_user86 | roxville, good tip there's a package e-modules with some nice stuff in it... |
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| 18:52.18 | Elive_user86 | BTW even songbird works without any hassle (Good media player/browser)! |
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| 18:55.27 | roxville | <Elive_user86> BTW even songbird works without any hassle (Good media player/browser)! |
| 18:55.31 | roxville | cool! :) |
| 18:56.04 | Elive_user86 | Don't remember how long I've tried with Ubuntu (depends on Gstreamer)... |
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| 19:03.37 | FossZombie | roxville, songbird is better than winamp now on the multimedia player ratings and winamp has heald 5 stars for years. |
| 19:04.19 | Elive_user86 | seems slower though (only matters on older HW) |
| 19:04.26 | FossZombie | VLC needs a overhaul, but damn it plays EVERYTHING |
| 19:05.02 | Elive_user86 | nice for multicast streaming as well |
| 19:05.07 | FossZombie | VLC needs good global hotkeys, winamp like playlist managment, etc |
| 19:05.21 | keyra | FossZombie: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 19:07.05 | FossZombie | top 3 media players poll from san francisco, Windows: Winamp, Itunes, VLC, Quicktime Linux: Amarok, Songbird, XMMS, VLC |
| 19:07.42 | FossZombie | I think Itunes works in linux now. |
| 19:07.49 | FossZombie | with wine or crossover |
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| 19:08.50 | FossZombie | so we can start making our media a "protected" format and stomp around screaming "HAIL!" |
| 19:15.20 | roxville | heh FossZombie |
| 19:15.50 | roxville | maybe make an "ElPlayer" based on VLC? |
| 19:16.12 | roxville | that'd need som SERIOUS coding though... |
| 19:16.20 | roxville | some |
| 19:16.32 | FossZombie | why re-invent the wheel |
| 19:17.06 | FossZombie | if you really care to make edje look alike apps just make a edje wrapper, or support portland's e17 project |
| 19:18.24 | roxville | ain't heard of it |
| 19:18.50 | roxville | not edje look-alike... but ports to etk |
| 19:22.00 | Chi11y | Songbird is good but still very beta imho. |
| 19:28.27 | Elive_user86 | The black feathers match elive's night theme nicely... |
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| 19:38.05 | Chi11y | Elive_user86, yes, it really does, and I think it would kinda fit to the light theme too =) |
| 19:47.05 | wasynyt | good evening people |
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| 19:49.21 | Chi11y | good evening wasynyt |
| 19:49.31 | wasynyt | how is world today |
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| 20:01.35 | Chi11y | wasynyt: good really |
| 20:01.41 | wasynyt | :d |
| 20:01.49 | wasynyt | great |
| 20:01.54 | Chi11y | yeh |
| 20:02.11 | Chi11y | Sputnik 50th anniversary today lol :P |
| 20:02.20 | assasukasse | hi all |
| 20:02.27 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 20:02.29 | Chi11y | hi |
| 20:02.38 | wasynyt | all praise mighty man made moon |
| 20:02.52 | Chi11y | ;P |
| 20:03.24 | Chi11y | man made? :P |
| 20:03.37 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 20:03.52 | wasynyt | sputnik was called tekokuu in finnish |
| 20:04.00 | wasynyt | artificial moon |
| 20:04.31 | Chi11y | o.O |
| 20:04.34 | Chi11y | cool :P |
| 20:04.38 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 20:04.40 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:05.09 | Chi11y | I thought you were talking about the disputed moon landings by the US ;) |
| 20:05.21 | wasynyt | nah.. |
| 20:05.50 | Chi11y | in half speed the recordings look very earth-ish =P |
| 20:06.10 | wasynyt | hmmm i rather not bother with stuff like that |
| 20:06.25 | Chi11y | *twice speed I meant, ofcource |
| 20:06.29 | Chi11y | heh, nope |
| 20:06.47 | Chi11y | but discovery channel makes funny shit with your brain, ya know ;) |
| 20:07.33 | wasynyt | yup,, i know |
| 20:07.42 | wasynyt | but i dont watch tv that much |
| 20:08.05 | Chi11y | heh, ok =) |
| 20:08.12 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:08.19 | wasynyt | not worth the time |
| 20:09.05 | Chi11y | nope, but I end up sitting there in the sofa anyway :P |
| 20:09.18 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 20:09.39 | wasynyt | when i am bored i start braking my computer... |
| 20:10.01 | Chi11y | heh, yeah, that works too ;) |
| 20:10.17 | wasynyt | it takes hours to make it work again |
| 20:17.49 | Chi11y | :P |
| 20:18.42 | Chi11y | well, I'm leaving now |
| 20:18.48 | Chi11y | see you wasynyt |
| 20:18.53 | wasynyt | see you later |
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| 20:35.28 | Elive_user95 | hi every body |
| 20:36.04 | Elive_user95 | i have trouble with an elive update |
| 20:36.52 | Elive_user95 | the entrance-themes is corrupted and don't install |
| 20:37.07 | Elive_user95 | with the tests branch |
| 20:41.28 | Elive_user95 | ok, bye |
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| 20:51.10 | wasynyt | good night people |
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| 22:26.02 | Elive_user29 | aslve :P |
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| 23:38.58 | Elive_user18 | i need help with some questions about elive |
| 23:41.58 | bentejuy | good night! |