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00:47.10Wizardhello all :)
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01:04.51jewardAnyone awake?
01:05.09jewardI'd like to make 3 partitions, but am unsure of the syntax.
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01:14.20FossZombiejeward, hi
01:14.32FossZombiewhat type of partitions do you need
01:15.28FossZombieif you launch gparted it will give you a easy graphical way to manage those partitions! There's great amounts of documentation and how-tos for that specific program and is considered the best for beginners
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01:38.12the_hammeranyone here?
01:38.38the_hammerim wondering what the odds are of having compiz-fusion in elive 1.0 Gem?
01:43.45Wizarddamn..
01:44.23Wizardseems that debian is the only one distro which support powerpc and fit my needs
01:47.35the_hammernot enough eye candy in elive 1.0
01:47.43the_hammerneeds fusion compiz :)
01:53.12Wizardyeah.. needs bloatness-fusion
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02:01.23elmo99moo?
02:01.29Wizard:]
02:01.35Wizardbarf!
02:01.46elmo99~seen roxville
02:01.48aptroxville is currently on #elive, last said: 'they are typically called "gtk-engine" or something'.
02:01.48diabetikelmo99: roxville was last seen in #elive 2 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <roxville> they are typically called "gtk-engine" or something
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02:25.00FossZombieJammie Thomas may get a retrial in file sharing case because of the type of jury that was unfairly selected (people who were computer-illiterate or never been on the net to be able to understand the facts) and also the jury was coached which is illegal and considered a threat.
02:25.16FossZombieIt was also proven that she was not the one that shared the files.
02:25.36FossZombieshe's still on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars over a few songs.
02:26.34FossZombiemoral of the story, protect your wifi routers =p
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03:11.22withoutclasshayooo
03:11.57Wizardchuuuuja!
03:12.25Wizardhello withoutclass
03:12.34withoutclasshi :)
03:13.15Wizardwhat's up?
03:14.11withoutclassrelaxing
03:14.22withoutclassputting off writing a really simple java program and using eclipse to turn it into a web service
03:15.04Wizardlol
03:16.02Wizardwhy i readed it as "getting helloworld and turing it into jsp webpage using bloated software"
03:18.07Wizardi'm reading penguinppc.org and i can't stop laughing :)
03:18.41withoutclass:P
03:18.54withoutclassim doing an independant study and its the easiest way that i know how right now
03:20.07withoutclasswhat would you suggest?
03:20.08Wizardfor example: pdisk is called mac-fdisk by Debian and Gentoo, because they like to be different
03:20.22keyraWizard: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
03:21.55Wizarddo that the way you like
03:22.22withoutclasswell, im always open to suggestions, I'm just using it becuase thats all i know righ tnow
03:22.29Wizardhow do you think? is fedora worth giving a try? or maybe i should stay with macos x and xubuntu?
03:22.42withoutclass<--gentoo
03:24.47Wizardnooooooooooo
03:24.53withoutclassyea
03:24.56withoutclassworks well also
03:25.18Wizardi don't have a time to deal with compilation
03:25.33Wizardit's my desktop, it has to be set up quick
03:25.42Wizardand os x is.. crap :]
03:26.10withoutclasshahaha
03:26.18withoutclassyea it did take quite awhile to set up
03:26.22withoutclassbut i have a desktop i use
03:26.27withoutclassso i play on the laptop
03:27.11Wizardonly half hour and i end my shift
03:27.18withoutclassooo
03:27.20Wizardi'm tired and sleepy
03:27.23withoutclassnot enough time then ;)
03:29.03Wizardno, i left my powerbook at home
03:29.29Wizardi think i'll left ubuntu on that machine
03:29.30Wizard;)
03:29.42Wizardand crappy os x :/
03:29.50withoutclassooo
03:29.55withoutclassubuntu=crappy
03:29.56withoutclassxD
03:30.33Wizardtoo, but better than os x :)
03:30.46withoutclassmah
03:30.47withoutclassnah
03:30.52Wizardbah
03:30.57withoutclassubuntu is only better than susexD
03:32.05Wizardin poland we call suse ' siusiak'
03:32.42Wizardbut it's really crap
03:32.54withoutclassyea
03:33.20Wizardhmm.. i see that slackware has unofficial ppc port
03:33.29Wizardbut.. dealing with slakware updates..
03:33.29withoutclassdunno
03:33.34withoutclassgentoo xD
03:33.39Wizardnooooooooooooo
03:33.45withoutclassit think my machine runs much faster now
03:33.57Wizardi would use openbsd ;)
03:34.03withoutclass:P
03:34.18Wizardit's the fastest os i know :D
03:34.29Wizardand.. personally.. i like it very much
03:34.41withoutclassoo
03:34.43withoutclassive never used it
03:35.18Wizardi'm big bsd fan :)
03:35.55withoutclassicic
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03:38.43Wizardhmm.. seems that openbsd will support all my hardware..
03:39.06Wizardi'm not sure about AirPort..
03:39.39withoutclassmaybe i should look into openbsd but...commands are different
03:42.52Wizardfirst thing.. philosophy is different..
03:43.21Wizardlinux, freebsd and netbsd are for people who want things just to work..
03:44.22withoutclassbsd costs $$ right?
03:44.25BryansteinFreebsd isn't that compliant...well it didn't use to be ...the worst hardware support in in freebsd
03:44.27Bryansteinno sir
03:44.29Bryansteinfree all day
03:44.34Bryansteinopen free net
03:44.37Bryansteinall free
03:44.52withoutclassjust plain bsd?
03:44.57Bryansteinwithoutclass, download FreesBie and give it a whirl
03:45.09withoutclassnaah
03:45.09Bryansteinit is a FreeBSD live CD
03:45.13withoutclassi will stick with gentoo for some time
03:45.23withoutclasstook me like 5 days to get it running with gui
03:45.24withoutclassxD
03:45.59Bryansteinwell you can stick with gentoo but it if you are curious about BSD there is nothing like a live CD to give you a gander
03:46.13withoutclasstrue
03:46.56Bryansteinman I have this crazy high pitched sound in my audio
03:47.01Bryansteinonly on capture though
03:47.33Wizard"Multi-speed laptops are not adjustable." :'(
03:47.43withoutclassaww
03:47.44Wizardi'm gonnna hung myself
03:48.07Wizardor hang (?)
03:48.22Wizardbut first i need breakfast and some sleep :P
03:48.36withoutclass:P
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03:50.57Wizardtake that, undead!
03:51.11FossZombieThat's ok I needed to heat up my bread
03:51.13FossZombieI like toast
03:51.40FossZombieI'm a vegetarian zombie, quote "Graaaaaaaiins"
03:51.48withoutclassLOL
03:52.13FossZombieim kidding of course, ill eat yer brain, that's just a one-liner to put my victems at rest
03:53.59FossZombietomorrow I go to work at connoco philips, training day always sucks
03:54.06FossZombietoo much paperwork
03:54.16FossZombiethis is the most paperwork I've ever seen anyone do for any job
03:54.27FossZombieI have 3 inches thick of paper.
03:54.31withoutclassew
03:55.04FossZombieI have a month to do it
03:55.46Wizardo_O
03:56.05FossZombieI'm going to get a signature stamp
03:56.12FossZombieand a old movable print machine
03:56.26FossZombieand for the test, I may outsource it
03:56.37FossZombie20 page test
03:56.54withoutclasslol
03:57.01FossZombieI wish I had a digital copy of it so I could use grep
03:57.08Wizardare you some kind of teacher or what?
03:57.13FossZombiecat | grep "test phrase here"
03:57.35FossZombieSecurity guard, but I'm training to become a supervisor, then armed guard, then tactical armed it guard
03:58.06FossZombiethey want to end up sending me to a nuke plant which means I get a m4a1, pistol, gas grenades with a m79, and other stuff.
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04:00.08FossZombiebe back one hour
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05:19.56Wizardvoilence..
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06:19.52OpenSpacemorning
06:20.08wasynytgood morning
06:26.53wasynytsee you again soon
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06:31.21wasynytback
06:32.15wasynytOpenSpace, how has your morning started
06:32.38OpenSpaceheh, kernel wont boot
06:32.48wasynyt:/
06:33.01OpenSpacesmile is here anyway
06:33.57OpenSpacecompiling drm and mesa now to include one driver
06:34.05wasynytk
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07:13.17assasukassemorning all
07:14.30wasynytgood morning
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07:34.44Elive_user99bonjour
07:43.59wasynytgood morning
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08:56.13Jonah_hey if anyone can help me out with these problems i would appreciate it greatly: http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?5,886
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11:41.15wasynytgood afternoon people
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12:15.19MADLhi all
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13:19.21Jonahhey has anyone seen FossZombie around, just need a little help with this: http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?5,886
13:19.30Jonahor if anyone else can help that would be great
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13:20.15Jonahthanks
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14:25.23amigamiai see the macbook version. cant i just run that in a vm?
14:25.28amigamiai dont want to format my drive
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14:56.42amigamiai see the macbook version. cant i just run that in a vm?
14:56.46amigamiai dont want to format my drive
14:57.19amigamiaoh well
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15:01.46THEoracleg'mornin' everyone
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15:29.33wasynytgood evening
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15:55.30FossZombiehttp://tinyurl.com/2oqnrb <- my new work
15:55.51FossZombieit's as big as a small city
15:59.14wasynythmm
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16:00.43wasynytgood evening bentejuy
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16:00.58wasynytFossZombie, is it at the green pointer ?
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16:36.50FossZombiewasynyt, lol click satilite if its not already on
16:37.15wasynytit is on
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16:37.29FossZombiewasynyt, it's at the red
16:37.58wasynytis that some kind of factory ?
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16:43.19FossZombieoil refinery
16:43.27wasynytahh.. ok
16:43.37FossZombieUbuntu's still buggy look at this bug report https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1
16:43.47wasynytis it a good job ?
16:43.51keyraFossZombie: http://bugs.elivecd.org
16:43.54FossZombieit should be a good job
16:44.05wasynythttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071011205044141
17:20.14FossZombieI have a choice
17:20.26FossZombieHMO or Private Doctor
17:20.27wasynyt?
17:20.36wasynytwell that depends
17:21.01FossZombieI'm going to probably go with private doctor if I can find a good one
17:21.07wasynytnot all HMO are bad and not all Private Doctors are worth the money
17:21.11wasynytyeah
17:21.34FossZombieHMO = avaliability to see somone, but that person wont help you until you are dead
17:21.44FossZombiePrivate doctor = has not as much resources but wants to help
17:22.09wasynytnot all privates have that limited resources
17:22.17wasynytplus some even co-op
17:26.01FossZombieI think the Private Doctor is cheaper too
17:26.05FossZombiefor me at least
17:26.08wasynytheh
17:26.25FossZombiethey are still negotiating the agreement but the previous one was NO COST WHATSOEVER
17:26.43wasynytreally.. that sounds good
17:26.47FossZombielike I wouldn't have to pay monthly, or for visits, only 5$ per medicine unless it's cheaper than that
17:27.04FossZombie10$ er visit
17:27.35wasynytnot bad
17:27.54FossZombieand up to 20$ a day if I was admited in the hospitle. which is great because the next lowest plan is over 150 a day
17:28.42wasynytyou seem to have a rather good healtcare
17:31.15FossZombieits the best I've EVER seen
17:31.24FossZombiebut they are renegotiating it so it could change
17:31.27FossZombieand I don't have it yet
17:31.30wasynyti can easily believe that
17:31.33FossZombieits going to take a few months
17:31.43FossZombiein America, this kind of health is not heard of.
17:31.47wasynytnah if it gets even near that it is great
17:32.03FossZombieno money out of paycheck
17:32.07FossZombiethat would be so nice
17:32.21wasynytheh
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17:34.35wasynyt_macgood evening Spiffy
17:34.51Spiffyhello there wasynyt_mac
17:35.20wasynyt_machow are you doing
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17:57.22FossZombieChina just threatened myanmar, the freedom of your citizens or our wrath
17:57.26wasynyt_macgood evening Ezep
17:57.31FossZombiefunny because china does a lot of opressing themselves
17:57.52wasynyt_macwell i think they just want to do it by themselfs
17:58.08FossZombieChina actually claims that they are going to put and end to that RIGHT NOW and it just finally woke up and realized it's not a way to govern a industrial nation
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17:59.09wasynyt_macwell if they do it is good.. and even if not some "normal" people might have heard about it and make the change later
17:59.24wasynyt_macgood evening Theoden
17:59.38TheodenHi wasynyt_mac
17:59.45FossZombieChina still has not said they would, or taken down, the firewalls that plague their nation.
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18:00.34wasynyt_machow are you doing
18:03.38wasynyt_machmm i guess that will take time
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18:05.47Ezephi wasynyt, how all is going? :)
18:06.53wasynyti am doing well
18:09.31wasynytand you ?
18:10.39TheodenWow - Redhat and Novell being sued for patent infringement.
18:10.47wasynytyeah
18:11.05wasynytbut that patent covers nearly all linux distros
18:11.18TheodenYup
18:11.40wasynytand that is bad
18:12.10Ezepwasynyt: well, im here trying to configure an small net and compiling my new kernel =/
18:12.12wasynytif the company does not produce something that relates to them
18:12.19wasynythumm
18:12.23wasynytnot nice
18:12.38TheodenIndeed
18:13.13wasynytit is just totally absurd to me that there are companies that wont produce anything but sue others
18:27.10TheodenWhat's absurd to me is that they are allowed to.
18:27.24wasynytyeah that is what i mean
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18:52.13Chi11yhello
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18:53.58wasynytgood evening
18:54.05Chi11ywhats up?
18:55.47wasynytnothing special
18:56.51wasynytand you
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19:06.39Wizardhello elivers :(
19:09.01Wizardanybody here?
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19:09.30wasynytgood evening Wizard
19:09.42the_hammerevening?
19:09.46the_hammerwhere are you
19:09.58the_hammerafternoon here :P
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19:10.21Ezephey, why i don't have make-kpkg in my OS? i think i miss some package ;S
19:10.25the_hammercool
19:10.29the_hammerim in canada
19:10.48Wizardwasynyt: good evening ;)
19:11.00wasynythow are you doing
19:11.05Wizardnot very good
19:11.14the_hammerwhats wrong Wizard ?
19:11.15Wizardi'm sick and.. lonely
19:11.20the_hammeraww
19:11.26wasynytand you came here
19:11.27Wizardnah, i don't wan't to talk about it
19:11.33Wizardyeah..
19:11.34the_hammerwell ya got us here we can keep ya company
19:11.40Wizard:) nice
19:11.46the_hammer:)
19:11.54wasynyttho it has been quite silent today
19:11.55Wizardi always known irc is good
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19:12.23Wizardwhat the f**k ?
19:12.25the_hammertheres a few bad apples but ya cant let a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch :D
19:12.27wasynytwe have had some creative inout
19:12.39wasynyt*input
19:13.09Wizarddamn xubuntu :/
19:13.17wasynythmm
19:13.19Wizardarrrrrr...
19:13.21the_hammerlol
19:13.27the_hammerbunpoop is terrible
19:13.27wasynytno buntus for me
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19:13.45Wizardi'm at work, i have no choice
19:14.04wasynytyou have that on your work ?
19:15.34the_hammeri get elive on this drive and then i had sid on my other drive but couldnt get sound working even after i updated the drivers on it
19:15.38Ezephey, why i don't have make-kpkg in my OS? i think i miss some package ;S
19:15.40Wizardbecause it was here when i started working here
19:15.53Wizardand it's one of two pcs on which i work
19:16.02wasynytEzep, kpkg
19:16.04the_hammeri wish we could have beryl or compiz fusion on elive
19:16.05wasynyt?
19:16.12Wizardbut that's not a personal workstatnion, other people also use it
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19:16.25the_hammerthis is just my laptop i have here
19:16.30wasynytdpkg perhaps
19:16.40Ezepwasynyt: sure, to compile the kernel as debian way
19:16.46Wizardbesides, i have xubuntu on my notebook, but there is no elive/ppc
19:17.14wasynytEzep, dpkg
19:17.40the_hammerits alot of fun playing with beryl and compiz...trips the moneysoft users i know out lol
19:18.30wasynythmm i prefer something that merely works.. kewless factor does not matter that much as long as i can cconf the gui
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19:20.50Wizardwasynyt: hmm.. you should try fvwm ;)
19:21.09wasynytnah i am not that good in config
19:21.20wasynytbu ti guess that will bend to anything
19:21.23the_hammeri just love eye candy and toys
19:21.28the_hammerim a kid kid :)
19:22.37wasynytheh
19:23.23Wizard:]
19:23.32Wizardthan you should try macos x
19:23.44wasynytmacos is a nice toy
19:23.55Wizardeveryting is blinking, jumping, moving..
19:23.55wasynytbut one can use it for work too
19:24.09Wizardbleah.. i don' like it
19:25.07wasynytyup. that is a personal preference
19:25.23Wizardsure
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19:27.51taime1hello?
19:27.52Wizardwasynyt: and what do you think about os x ?
19:27.56taime1aha
19:28.04Wizardi only like icon theme ;)
19:28.07Wizardtaime1: hi
19:28.08taime1anyone here know how to get divx layback?
19:28.13taime1playback*
19:28.24Wizardi use mplayer/gxine
19:29.06taime1i know that in ubuntu, you must either install extra gstreamer plugins or remove mplayer and install totem-gstreamer... but neither of these methods works in elive as both installations just cause my computer to crash
19:29.58taime1Wizard what packages?
19:30.18wasynytmplayer
19:30.34taime1no.. mplayer is installed by default
19:30.35Wizardas far as i remember, it should work out of the box
19:30.40taime1doesnt play divx
19:30.48wasynytWizard, i like macos x.. as you know i have one such machine.. it is quite easy to use and works quite well
19:30.59Wizardso all necessery codecs should be installed
19:31.04taime1i havent come across a distro yet, that plays divx with just mplayer.. always need other codecs
19:31.56taime1to prove my point: http://stage6.divx.com/Hak5/video/1711733/Hak5-Episode-3x03
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19:36.47Wizardhmm..
19:36.49Wizardi don't know
19:37.13Wizardi haven't use elive for long time, maybe somebody else can help you
19:37.26taime1in ubuntu, there is a set of "extra" gstreamer plugins... but damn them cuz i dont know what its called in elive repos
19:38.02wasynytwell best thing to do is to launch synaptic and search for codecs and then install those
19:38.07wasynytwont take long
19:38.17taime1search for codecs returns nothing
19:38.33taime1and if i use the mta package to install "all" gstreamer plugins, it also crashes
19:38.57taime1crashes when i install vlc-plugin, gstreamer plugins, or totem-gstreamer...
19:38.58Wizardmta ?
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19:39.19taime1mta?
19:39.34Ezepmeta
19:39.52taime1oh.. yeah, sorry
19:39.58taime1i meant to type meta
19:40.14Ezeplittle typo :S
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19:40.48taime1whats so stupid is that when you go to play divx, it says, "for linux support, try mplayer".. but mplayer is installed
19:41.14taime1and the only two ways i know around this are to install totem-gstreamer or that "extra" set of gstreamer plugins
19:41.32taime1crummy that installing any of that makes my system crash
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19:54.18Wizardtaime1: did you use apt-get ?
19:54.36taime1nah, i used synaptic
19:54.43taime1well, yeah.. front end
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20:03.02Wizardmaybe frontend exploded, or something ;)
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20:08.00Wizardhehe
20:08.06Wizardos x ;)
20:08.28Wizardwasynyt: psi or adium ?
20:08.35wasynytheh just closed the lid.. nope xchat
20:12.44Wizardha wrr
20:13.01wasynythuh
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20:27.26wasynytgood night peopel
20:27.29Wizardi hate working at night
20:27.33Wizardgood night wasynyt
20:28.15Wizardand drinking
20:28.26Wizardand doing other funny things
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20:28.34Wizardsitting at work is not funny?
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20:28.48Wizards/'?'/''/g
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21:08.26taime1ha..i discovered the divx problem
21:08.58taime1the plugins were not in /usr/lib/iceweasal... but they WERE in /usr/lib/mozilla
21:09.03taime1copied...
21:09.05taime1done
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23:09.49Theodenhttp://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb48/madill48/?action=view&current=ElivePlay1.png
23:16.15roxvilleTheoden,  i'm working on a nerw theme...in case you wanna give it a shot
23:16.19roxvillenew
23:16.27roxvillei just gotta upload it, lol
23:22.34roxvilleshit...
23:23.54roxvilleok
23:23.59roxvilleTheoden, http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/graphite.tar.gz
23:24.09roxvilledownload untar and run build sh
23:24.25roxvilleit is far from complete, but you get the general idea, i guess
23:25.05roxvillea lot of the colors in e17 configs still are green from the camo theme
23:28.40roxvilleTheoden,  nice bg, btw :)
23:32.16Wizardshit, i hate my work
23:32.20Wizard:/
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23:38.58Theodenroxville: Interesting theme.
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23:45.21roxvillehehe
23:45.49roxvillei decided to try something darker... and i think the smooth borders are not bad... i like it more and more
23:45.59roxvilleor i would not keep playing with it
23:46.51roxvillesin city
23:46.55roxvillelol
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23:49.51Theodenlol
23:52.46roxvillei shoulda typed that somwhere else...
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