| 00:04.02 | Wizard | awww |
| 00:04.05 | Wizard | hello caim |
| 00:05.39 | Wizard | oh gods of the underworld, what a night :/ |
| 00:07.46 | caim | hey Wizard |
| 00:07.53 | caim | how are you doing ? |
| 00:08.33 | Wizard | bad :/ |
| 00:08.36 | caim | what happened |
| 00:08.37 | caim | ? |
| 00:08.54 | Wizard | my girlfriend broke up.. without any reason |
| 00:09.35 | caim | geez fuck... |
| 00:09.47 | Wizard | not that we were living togheter.. |
| 00:10.01 | Wizard | man.. now i'm allmost completely alone.. |
| 00:10.08 | Wizard | because she moved out |
| 00:10.15 | Wizard | and took all her stuff |
| 00:10.26 | caim | no reason is weird, i know woman are unpredictable but... it must be a reason |
| 00:10.35 | Wizard | that's the situation worht saying fuck |
| 00:10.41 | Wizard | i think she was just bored |
| 00:11.04 | caim | Wizard: damn... |
| 00:11.41 | Wizard | i'll find another one.. |
| 00:12.02 | caim | yes? there is no turning back for this one? |
| 00:12.11 | Wizard | i don't know |
| 00:13.27 | Wizard | today we had a dinner.. so we talked a bit.. but she seems not interested even in talking with me.. |
| 00:13.33 | Wizard | so i guess that's over |
| 00:13.45 | caim | Wizard: :S |
| 00:14.13 | Theoden | God made the world and man in just 6 days. He rested on the 7th day. Then on the 8th day He made woman and no one has rested since! |
| 00:14.26 | caim | LOL |
| 00:14.32 | Wizard | :D |
| 00:15.27 | Wizard | hmm.. but there's one funny thing in all that crap.. |
| 00:15.30 | caim | Wizard: drink something and move on then |
| 00:15.33 | caim | what? |
| 00:15.55 | Wizard | i live in dorm, so 4 days after she moved out, dorm administration assigned a new roommate for me |
| 00:16.04 | Wizard | a girl.. |
| 00:16.17 | Wizard | and.. very cute and nice girl.. |
| 00:16.33 | caim | oh great. you're lucky then |
| 00:16.33 | Wizard | by mistake of course, but it was nice :D |
| 00:17.07 | Wizard | today she moved out and i'm alone again, but.. i have friends and two notebooks :) |
| 00:17.18 | Wizard | alcohol and marijuana |
| 00:17.26 | Wizard | and no money ;D |
| 00:17.33 | caim | xD |
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| 00:18.17 | Wizard | shit, i forgot that i'm at work |
| 00:18.26 | caim | well if ganja and beer, what else do you want... thats enough while you wait for another girl |
| 00:18.45 | caim | Wizard: geez, you're shocked then |
| 00:19.10 | Wizard | :) |
| 00:19.40 | Wizard | caim, i bought a powerbook, and yesterday i was reading openbsd ppc.readme |
| 00:21.01 | Wizard | i only need some x86, so i can produce livecd for x86 and ppc |
| 00:22.10 | caim | Wizard: good ;) |
| 00:22.25 | caim | how is your new job? |
| 00:24.02 | [Gandhi] | kamikaze |
| 00:24.14 | [Gandhi] | I want to kill Hugo Chavez |
| 00:24.46 | caim | [Gandhi]: that doesnt sound like Gandhi |
| 00:25.20 | [Gandhi] | I'm Gandhi reloaded the bad version |
| 00:31.58 | Wizard | caim: boring, but tonight i had alot of work |
| 00:32.29 | Wizard | actually i still have, but for some strange, unknown reason servers are restarting very slow after crash.. |
| 00:32.45 | Wizard | and i have only 10 out of 50 running :/ |
| 00:32.58 | Wizard | good that ther's not much traffic at night |
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| 02:04.48 | Wizard | boo! |
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| 02:31.05 | Elive_user80 | elive rocks! |
| 02:31.11 | Elive_user80 | Gem is the greatest! |
| 02:31.20 | Elive_user80 | where is thana! |
| 02:31.33 | caim | hey Wizard i tried netbsd rc1 |
| 02:31.37 | caim | it sucks |
| 02:32.11 | Elive_user80 | apt seen thana |
| 02:32.13 | apt | thana <n=Elive_us@169.178-200-80.adsl.skynet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 720d 51m 53s ago, saying: 'asi se tendrĂ¡ que quedar pues xD'. |
| 02:32.29 | Elive_user80 | ? |
| 02:32.31 | Elive_user80 | really? |
| 02:32.38 | Elive_user80 | that's an aweful long time ago |
| 02:34.38 | Wizard | lol |
| 02:34.44 | Wizard | caim: hehe |
| 02:34.44 | Elive_user80 | roxville_, when is the last time you saw thana? |
| 02:34.54 | Wizard | i still think openbsd the most |
| 02:35.06 | Wizard | s/most/best/ |
| 02:35.33 | Wizard | apt: i know what i meant you twart :/ |
| 02:35.34 | apt | You know what i meant you twart :/? |
| 02:35.37 | roxville_ | Elive_user80, sunday or monday... he was going to his fathers wedding |
| 02:36.20 | caim | Wizard: i'm waiting for fbsd 7.0 |
| 02:36.45 | Wizard | caim: i had funny dream yesterday, i dreamed about setting up mail server with openbsd and sendmail :D |
| 02:36.52 | Wizard | caim: i don't |
| 02:37.20 | Wizard | history shows that 4.x and 6.x were pretty nice, while 5.x was a bit.. crappy |
| 02:37.29 | caim | i think i never dreamed about computer |
| 02:37.39 | caim | Wizard: well 6.2 can be better |
| 02:37.52 | caim | i'm waiting for the 6.3 to |
| 02:37.57 | Wizard | me too |
| 02:38.15 | Wizard | caim: seems you are not at my geekness nevel ;) |
| 02:38.50 | caim | heheh |
| 02:39.10 | Wizard | there is nice verb used for such ocasions: geeczez |
| 02:39.33 | Wizard | it is a wordplay with geek and dziczec (become wild) |
| 02:40.09 | Wizard | (simmilar pronounciation :P) |
| 02:40.41 | caim | :D |
| 02:44.20 | Wizard | hmm.. i'm thinking on migrating my router from free to openbsd.. |
| 02:44.54 | Wizard | it would be nice oportunity to check config, change few settings, polish pf.conf and so on ;) |
| 02:49.14 | caim | i have to go Wizard, see you |
| 02:50.00 | caim | 5AM |
| 02:50.02 | caim | damn |
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| 03:02.06 | Wizard | see you caim |
| 03:07.05 | Wizard | so quiet and cold here.. |
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| 03:52.16 | Trae | I want desktop icons ! |
| 03:52.19 | Trae | :( |
| 03:53.36 | Ezep | I want my lan to work :( |
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| 04:09.37 | MetaPhaze | debian won't let you use thunar and konqueror at the same time? |
| 04:09.51 | keyra | MetaPhaze: Konqueror is bloated ! do you want to turn Elive into a mess like the other distroa ? why use Elive then ? |
| 04:10.01 | MetaPhaze | lol |
| 04:10.08 | MetaPhaze | i only use elive on my laptop |
| 04:10.14 | MetaPhaze | which this is |
| 04:10.16 | MetaPhaze | i use gentoo |
| 04:10.58 | MetaPhaze | i only installed elive on this because i got tired of fighting with it's ati card in gentoo |
| 04:11.39 | MetaPhaze | that and when i'm on the road and stealing wireless net... i need quick installs ;) |
| 04:13.14 | MetaPhaze | it's surprising how many wireless cash registers... secure or not... let you access the web ;) |
| 04:13.25 | MetaPhaze | from your car |
| 04:15.54 | MetaPhaze | konq is only bloated if you don't use all of it's features |
| 04:16.11 | MetaPhaze | personally i run e16/kde as my de |
| 04:16.20 | MetaPhaze | minus kwin and kdesktop |
| 04:17.07 | MetaPhaze | but then again my system has the power to run all that and compile it in only 5 hours |
| 04:38.49 | MetaPhaze | der |
| 04:38.54 | MetaPhaze | i wish thana was here |
| 04:39.18 | MetaPhaze | i finally got my online store working... want to tell him the good news |
| 04:39.25 | MetaPhaze | elive laptops for sale! |
| 04:39.28 | MetaPhaze | ;) |
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| 04:41.38 | Wizard | i want my mail server to kill spam :( |
| 04:41.50 | Wizard | but i gues it's time to change software |
| 04:42.43 | MetaPhaze | Wizard, long time no talk... you running your own mail server? |
| 04:42.51 | Wizard | yeah |
| 04:42.54 | Wizard | :) |
| 04:42.56 | MetaPhaze | qmail? |
| 04:42.58 | MetaPhaze | sendmail? |
| 04:43.01 | Wizard | qmail |
| 04:43.05 | MetaPhaze | nice same here |
| 04:43.14 | MetaPhaze | there is a way to block spam |
| 04:43.19 | MetaPhaze | if i can remember it |
| 04:43.23 | Wizard | but i'm gonna switch to postfix + dovecot + dspam |
| 04:43.38 | Wizard | yes, but spamassassin got broken on last upgrade.. |
| 04:43.46 | Wizard | and i hate it since this ;) |
| 04:43.55 | MetaPhaze | ouch... you running this on elive? |
| 04:44.00 | Wizard | no, on freebsd |
| 04:44.03 | MetaPhaze | ahh |
| 04:46.02 | Wizard | i'm gonna install openbsd/macppc today |
| 04:46.19 | Wizard | but first i need to sleep some, i've just returned from work (night shift) |
| 04:46.33 | MetaPhaze | ahh |
| 04:46.51 | MetaPhaze | just thinking sleep here too (11:30 pm) |
| 04:46.51 | Wizard | xubuntu/ppc gets on my nerves.. |
| 04:47.00 | MetaPhaze | ack you said the u word |
| 04:47.07 | Wizard | :) |
| 04:47.15 | MetaPhaze | go gentoo ppc |
| 04:47.21 | Wizard | Linux japko 2.6.20-16-powerpc #3 Sun Sep 23 19:20:00 UTC 2007 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 04:47.23 | Wizard | nooo! |
| 04:47.32 | Wizard | i won't compile whole that crap |
| 04:47.36 | Wizard | i want packages! |
| 04:48.10 | MetaPhaze | lol... linux was designed to be compiled for each system it is installed on.... this is the linux way |
| 04:48.29 | Wizard | that's why i'm gonna replace it with openbsd ;) |
| 04:49.37 | MetaPhaze | what you running for computers? |
| 04:49.40 | MetaPhaze | slow? |
| 04:50.02 | Wizard | hax0r ;) |
| 04:50.09 | MetaPhaze | ? |
| 04:50.21 | Wizard | i love openbsd.. and the way it works |
| 04:50.39 | Wizard | and all those w^x, propolice and other nice stuff :) |
| 04:52.18 | Wizard | heh, and probably you are ircing on it :P |
| 04:52.23 | Wizard | and browsing bash.org |
| 04:52.27 | MetaPhaze | no |
| 04:52.31 | MetaPhaze | this is my laptop |
| 04:52.35 | Wizard | :) |
| 04:52.42 | MetaPhaze | p3 1.0 GHz |
| 04:52.50 | MetaPhaze | 256M ram |
| 04:52.58 | MetaPhaze | crappy ati rage pro mobility |
| 04:53.03 | MetaPhaze | 8M ram |
| 04:53.24 | Wizard | mine is powerbook 17", 1,6GHz G4, 1,5GB ram, and some shitty ati |
| 04:53.51 | Wizard | and the second: amd64 3000+, 500MB ram and via unichrome ;D |
| 04:53.59 | MetaPhaze | i haven't even mounted my 1.8 Terrabytes of hd space on this crappy thing cause it might puke if i did |
| 04:54.36 | Wizard | wait, actually.. what are we talking about ? |
| 04:54.52 | Wizard | it sounds like shouting who has bigger prick :/ |
| 04:55.31 | MetaPhaze | lol |
| 04:55.45 | MetaPhaze | i just wonder why everyone hates gentoo |
| 04:55.59 | Wizard | because it is worth nothing.. |
| 04:56.02 | MetaPhaze | the people i sell it to are happy |
| 04:56.33 | Wizard | on desktop, i require fast upgrades, and fast installation.. i don't want to waste my time on compiling stuff.. |
| 04:56.47 | MetaPhaze | heh |
| 04:57.03 | Wizard | on server.. compilation wastes resources needed for stability and server performance |
| 04:57.18 | Wizard | actually, all those 'customisation' thing is a hype |
| 04:57.19 | MetaPhaze | total install time for gnome kde xfce4 e16 fluxbox xorg amarok and all the toys.. 5 hours |
| 04:57.33 | MetaPhaze | hmm |
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| 04:57.36 | MetaPhaze | dunno about that |
| 04:57.44 | Wizard | imagine debian or openbsd, it's like 10 minutes.. |
| 04:57.55 | MetaPhaze | my game server handles over 20 people on it playing and upgrading causes no lag |
| 04:58.31 | Wizard | look, all gentoo ricers are spreading hype, that setting all strange compile time options makes your server faster.. |
| 04:58.35 | Wizard | that's true |
| 04:58.58 | MetaPhaze | well |
| 04:59.09 | MetaPhaze | when you consider that your amd only has 128k cache |
| 04:59.22 | Wizard | but that's get wasted when you have to compile your software, or you change your mind and want to change some features.. |
| 05:01.24 | MetaPhaze | and debian/ubuntu/elive/redhat/mandrake are all compiled -O2... that wastes lots of performance compared to compiled -Os |
| 05:01.24 | Wizard | and that requires emerge -urdDjanCjsed world |
| 05:01.24 | MetaPhaze | actually |
| 05:01.24 | MetaPhaze | it only requires -uDN world |
| 05:01.24 | MetaPhaze | update deep new use |
| 05:01.25 | Wizard | ok, sorry, i had to :P |
| 05:01.25 | MetaPhaze | ;) |
| 05:01.25 | MetaPhaze | still |
| 05:01.25 | Wizard | but, it's a personal preference |
| 05:01.25 | MetaPhaze | your cpu would perform better with packages compiled -Os than -O2... uses less of your cache and memory and disk space (which speeds up loading time) |
| 05:01.37 | MetaPhaze | and run time |
| 05:01.56 | MetaPhaze | most amd's only have 128k cache or some 256 |
| 05:02.20 | MetaPhaze | compared to a pentium with anywhere from 256 to 2M like mine... with 2x2M |
| 05:03.21 | Wizard | i had gentoo (hardened profile, everything platform customized), freebsd (with many optimisations, everything built from source), elive, debian, slackware, slamd64.. |
| 05:03.36 | Wizard | and actually, i felt no difference between them |
| 05:03.58 | Wizard | ah, and openbsd ;) but i felt a difference :D |
| 05:04.09 | MetaPhaze | it really is personal preference... but it's only preference as far as how fast you wanna run and how much work you wanna do to get that speed... most people don't want to tweek their systems for max performance so they don't run gentoo they go with a i686 build compiled with a -O2 option |
| 05:04.30 | Wizard | like me :] |
| 05:04.41 | Wizard | but i usually use ppc :P |
| 05:04.46 | MetaPhaze | personally if i was going to run bsd i'd go with gentoo bsd |
| 05:05.08 | MetaPhaze | and i'm normally a slackware user |
| 05:05.10 | Wizard | i still prefere freebsd ports over portage |
| 05:05.14 | MetaPhaze | so i compiled all my stuff anyway |
| 05:05.34 | Wizard | you can caopile your stuff (and set optimizations) in free/net/openbsd |
| 05:05.40 | MetaPhaze | and being a programmer i compile all the time so it's no big deal to me |
| 05:06.23 | MetaPhaze | but 35 second reboots are really nice |
| 05:06.55 | MetaPhaze | I just loaded 144 processes in 35 seconds and kde and e16 |
| 05:07.17 | Wizard | once i was bored, and i customized elive startup scripts.. so it booted in 15 seconds, from grub to entrance |
| 05:07.31 | Wizard | that was kewl |
| 05:07.39 | MetaPhaze | cool |
| 05:08.10 | Wizard | but i used my own kernel (no modules, everything built-in) and disabled most unwanted daemons, like samba |
| 05:08.47 | Wizard | shit, openbsd still has xfce 4.2 in packages |
| 05:09.13 | Wizard | too bad, i like 4.4 very much |
| 05:09.35 | Wizard | so, i think i'm staying with xubuntu |
| 05:09.41 | MetaPhaze | ack the u word! |
| 05:10.09 | Wizard | but nooo... xubuntu is not l33t.. i need something more funny ;) |
| 05:10.13 | MetaPhaze | i just replaced a u install with a gentoo install cause nwn wouldn't run |
| 05:10.13 | Wizard | like openbsd |
| 05:10.43 | Wizard | i remember my first opebsd installation.. after 5 years with linux and 2 with freebsd.. |
| 05:10.53 | MetaPhaze | i like gentoo cause i can install it through elive from anywhere in the world |
| 05:10.56 | Wizard | i spent 5 hours on it :) |
| 05:11.14 | Wizard | and it has the most kewl installer |
| 05:11.22 | Wizard | simple, easy to use and understand |
| 05:11.39 | MetaPhaze | me i install from bz2 files on the command line... or use my bash script |
| 05:11.48 | Wizard | but i got lost with disklabel ;) |
| 05:11.55 | Wizard | hah.. |
| 05:11.58 | Wizard | nice |
| 05:12.16 | MetaPhaze | usually installs go like this... send user an elive cd |
| 05:12.16 | Wizard | a friend of mine had dd image burned on dvd :P |
| 05:12.36 | MetaPhaze | download stage 3 and portage snapshot |
| 05:12.40 | MetaPhaze | chroot |
| 05:12.42 | MetaPhaze | install |
| 05:12.43 | MetaPhaze | done |
| 05:12.48 | Wizard | gentoo, fresh installation, fully customized.. |
| 05:12.55 | MetaPhaze | yeah |
| 05:12.57 | MetaPhaze | dd is nice |
| 05:13.03 | MetaPhaze | i use it to do windows boxes |
| 05:13.06 | Wizard | and when he thought it was the time to reinstall.. dd if=.... |
| 05:13.10 | Wizard | LOL |
| 05:13.16 | Wizard | i did the same :D |
| 05:13.27 | Wizard | when i shared pc with my brother |
| 05:13.50 | MetaPhaze | dd is an awesome replacement for alcohol 120% |
| 05:14.11 | Wizard | and combine it with bzip2! |
| 05:14.24 | Wizard | and scp! |
| 05:14.40 | MetaPhaze | personally i use squashfs |
| 05:14.44 | MetaPhaze | and dd |
| 05:14.54 | MetaPhaze | 3 gigs on a cd |
| 05:15.01 | Wizard | never played with squashfs.. linux crap :P |
| 05:15.23 | MetaPhaze | yeah too bad plan9 doesn't have it |
| 05:15.31 | Wizard | do you use plan9 ? |
| 05:15.32 | MetaPhaze | my plan9 server could really use it |
| 05:15.35 | MetaPhaze | yes |
| 05:15.40 | Wizard | :P~ |
| 05:15.45 | MetaPhaze | linux supports the plan9 filesystem |
| 05:15.46 | Wizard | i've never seen it |
| 05:15.58 | Wizard | i only read about it |
| 05:16.14 | MetaPhaze | i dedicated 3 boxes from my mosix cluster for testing it |
| 05:16.16 | Wizard | is it unix? posix compilant? something else? |
| 05:16.19 | MetaPhaze | it's nice for file servers |
| 05:16.26 | MetaPhaze | it's on it's own level |
| 05:16.40 | MetaPhaze | plan9 people don't like the l word |
| 05:16.55 | MetaPhaze | nor the u word (unix) |
| 05:16.58 | Wizard | l word ? |
| 05:17.00 | MetaPhaze | any *nix |
| 05:17.03 | Wizard | naah :D |
| 05:17.20 | Wizard | everybody shout: OS X!! |
| 05:17.20 | MetaPhaze | apt plan9 |
| 05:17.23 | apt | from memory, plan9 is the plan9 operating systen from bell labs I will not be using Plan 9 in the creation of weapons of mass destruction to be used by nations other than the US. and http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/ |
| 05:17.28 | MetaPhaze | osx is just bsd |
| 05:17.46 | Wizard | with crappy aqua.. |
| 05:18.04 | Wizard | i have it installed, but i use it only to play flash movies ;) |
| 05:18.52 | Wizard | lol, plan9 gui looks like twm combined with xbitmap :D |
| 05:19.03 | MetaPhaze | http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html#07 |
| 05:19.21 | Wizard | i've seen this |
| 05:19.37 | Wizard | i had this picture printed and stick on my wall |
| 05:20.54 | MetaPhaze | he he |
| 05:20.54 | Wizard | wait a minute.. since my girlfriend broke up i live alone.. so.. i can print it and maka a poster from it :D |
| 05:21.15 | MetaPhaze | osx is just mach which became next step which became osx but it all came from bsd... |
| 05:22.52 | MetaPhaze | linux came from minix which came from unix |
| 05:23.13 | Wizard | yeah.. i know, but minix was written from scratch.. |
| 05:23.15 | Wizard | afaik |
| 05:23.31 | MetaPhaze | well |
| 05:23.32 | MetaPhaze | kind of |
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| 05:23.50 | MetaPhaze | if you read the whole linus and his teachers talks |
| 05:23.51 | Wizard | but.. i don't think that os x, freebsd and other *bsd have much 4.4bsd lite code in it ;) |
| 05:25.15 | MetaPhaze | minix was written from scratch but made to comply with unix time share systems... and linux was written based on what linus learned from his teacher at mit and his teachers os minix.. so both linux and minix were from scratch |
| 05:25.54 | MetaPhaze | minix was a micro kernel i believe and linux isn't |
| 05:26.09 | MetaPhaze | linux is a macro kernel |
| 05:26.39 | MetaPhaze | i have a ppc |
| 05:26.42 | MetaPhaze | i never use it |
| 05:26.45 | MetaPhaze | i hate appe |
| 05:26.47 | MetaPhaze | apple* |
| 05:26.56 | Wizard | why? |
| 05:27.02 | MetaPhaze | no freedom |
| 05:27.05 | Wizard | heh |
| 05:27.06 | MetaPhaze | even their ipods |
| 05:27.13 | MetaPhaze | if i need a new battery |
| 05:27.17 | MetaPhaze | what am i supposed to do? |
| 05:27.25 | Wizard | buy it from apple :/ |
| 05:27.27 | MetaPhaze | get out the bfh and smash it? |
| 05:27.41 | MetaPhaze | ya and pay their terrorist prices |
| 05:27.44 | MetaPhaze | no way |
| 05:27.46 | Wizard | :] |
| 05:27.52 | MetaPhaze | i'll buy the archos |
| 05:27.59 | MetaPhaze | the open source media player ;) |
| 05:28.22 | Wizard | but, you mast admit that apple's hardware is a good quality stuff |
| 05:28.32 | MetaPhaze | hmm |
| 05:28.36 | MetaPhaze | well |
| 05:28.43 | MetaPhaze | i can't really say either way |
| 05:28.48 | MetaPhaze | since i never use apples |
| 05:28.56 | MetaPhaze | not since the apple IIe |
| 05:29.00 | MetaPhaze | and apple IIc |
| 05:29.12 | MetaPhaze | which both sucked balls compared to the commodore 64 |
| 05:29.17 | MetaPhaze | and the commodore 128 |
| 05:29.35 | Wizard | :] |
| 05:29.53 | Wizard | i still have c64.. working :P |
| 05:29.55 | MetaPhaze | and then there was the crappy apple IIgs |
| 05:30.00 | MetaPhaze | me too |
| 05:30.09 | Wizard | old times.. |
| 05:30.12 | MetaPhaze | even have a midi keyboard and all the software.. and my 128 |
| 05:30.13 | Wizard | i'm too young |
| 05:30.27 | MetaPhaze | i'm not i'm ... close to middle age |
| 05:30.31 | Wizard | c128 had two cpus :] |
| 05:30.44 | Wizard | mos**** and z80 |
| 05:30.52 | MetaPhaze | i grew up with the z80 and c64 |
| 05:31.05 | MetaPhaze | those were the only pc's on the market back then |
| 05:31.33 | MetaPhaze | and the stores sold 5 1/4 inch floppy's with games for them on the shelves |
| 05:31.46 | MetaPhaze | and our computers at school were apple IIc's |
| 05:32.20 | MetaPhaze | and while the commodore had a built in BASIC interpreter... apple needed a friggen disk |
| 05:32.28 | Wizard | :] |
| 05:32.41 | MetaPhaze | if it wasn't for billy gates apple would have died |
| 05:32.55 | MetaPhaze | billy donated lots of money to keep them open for business |
| 05:33.20 | Wizard | i stll remember.. my first program.. written on c64 in basic.. |
| 05:33.28 | Wizard | *sniff* |
| 05:33.30 | MetaPhaze | i still have mine lol |
| 05:33.39 | MetaPhaze | i was 12 |
| 05:33.47 | Wizard | :] |
| 05:33.48 | MetaPhaze | it's a text based rpg |
| 05:33.56 | Wizard | !!!!! |
| 05:34.26 | Wizard | i've written text based sf game |
| 05:34.38 | MetaPhaze | sf? |
| 05:34.43 | Wizard | sci-fi |
| 05:34.48 | MetaPhaze | thought so |
| 05:35.11 | MetaPhaze | right now i program nwn |
| 05:35.13 | Wizard | brb, need to smoke |
| 05:35.18 | Wizard | give me 2 minutes |
| 05:40.36 | MetaPhaze | i'm getting ready to actually help out as a dev with linux |
| 05:40.48 | MetaPhaze | been practicing my C and C++ skills |
| 05:40.54 | MetaPhaze | on my way to C# |
| 05:41.15 | Wizard | i'm focusing on network adminstration |
| 05:41.20 | MetaPhaze | not sure what project i'm going to take up |
| 05:42.08 | Wizard | MetaPhaze: could you paste uname from plan9 :P ? |
| 05:42.50 | MetaPhaze | if i went to the basement and installed something other than a file server sure |
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| 05:43.14 | Wizard | hello BeOS ;) |
| 05:44.17 | MetaPhaze | i've got 66 users on my world atm i figure if i can please them with my C skills then i'm ready for linux |
| 05:44.41 | MetaPhaze | just need to learn the libraries |
| 05:45.00 | MetaPhaze | might after i learn the xserver libs i'll go to imlib2 i think |
| 05:45.47 | MetaPhaze | any way... gf went to bed.. guess i should too... i'll get you a paste from plan9 tomorrow |
| 05:46.03 | Wizard | ok |
| 05:46.20 | Wizard | see you |
| 05:46.31 | Wizard | i'm gonna sleep to, so, bye everybody |
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| 08:05.01 | FossZombie | anyone on? |
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| 10:52.11 | jonah1980 | on one of the menus |
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| 11:06.17 | Elive_user43 | cool, it works |
| 11:06.43 | Chi11y | =) |
| 11:06.44 | scar8 | hello |
| 11:06.53 | Elive_user43 | hi |
| 11:07.03 | Elive_user43 | i just started the elive revolution cd |
| 11:07.06 | scar8 | do you use gem; |
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| 11:07.18 | Elive_user43 | what is gem, is that the newer version |
| 11:07.23 | scar8 | yes |
| 11:07.30 | scar8 | i use revolution too |
| 11:07.45 | scar8 | not exactly |
| 11:07.46 | jonah1980 | gem is way better guys |
| 11:08.24 | scar8 | i have installed from cvs 16.999.040 |
| 11:08.31 | wasynyt | good afternoon people |
| 11:08.36 | scar8 | hello |
| 11:09.06 | Elive_user43 | maybe i should try gem |
| 11:09.36 | scar8 | does gem has the shelves to group the modules on the desktop??? |
| 11:09.48 | jonah1980 | hey has anyone seen fosszombie around, i've been not catching him for days and could do with his help cos of this: http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?5,886 |
| 11:09.53 | Chi11y | nope, but the tests verison doo |
| 11:10.16 | Chi11y | apt seen FossZombie |
| 11:10.18 | apt | fosszombie <n=GPLGeek@pdpc/supporter/student/GPLGeek> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 3h 5m 17s ago, saying: 'anyone on?'. |
| 11:10.20 | jonah1980 | scar8, well mine does cos i installed gem then added the tests line to the repo from the off, so it's awsome |
| 11:10.34 | keyra | jonah1980: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 11:10.43 | scar8 | do you like shelves??? |
| 11:10.46 | scar8 | i dont |
| 11:10.54 | newuseronelive | what is shelves |
| 11:11.15 | scar8 | a new feature to group the modules |
| 11:11.21 | wasynyt | something that is in newer e17 |
| 11:11.44 | jonah1980 | scar8, yeah i love the newer e17/dr17 it's much better having the dock autohide and spring up above apps like on a mac and also having desktop functionality and loads of other things that are better |
| 11:12.01 | jonah1980 | and the shelves are great, you can put stuff all over in them, very handy |
| 11:12.12 | scar8 | yes |
| 11:12.17 | jonah1980 | they're so configurable to just how you want them |
| 11:12.26 | scar8 | but they restrict you |
| 11:12.28 | jonah1980 | full control to layout your desktop |
| 11:12.29 | newuseronelive | wasynyt is e17 in the revolution or do i have to use gem_ |
| 11:13.39 | scar8 | i have more freedom placing modules on my desktop without the shelves. |
| 11:13.39 | wasynyt | e17 can be found from both gem and revolution |
| 11:13.47 | newuseronelive | hmm okej |
| 11:14.47 | scar8 | i hope raster and the dev team will find for every user be satisfied. |
| 11:15.04 | scar8 | will find a way |
| 11:15.28 | wasynyt | that is impossible |
| 11:15.35 | wasynyt | you cannot please everyone |
| 11:15.41 | wasynyt | even if you wanted to |
| 11:15.48 | scar8 | i agree |
| 11:16.11 | newuseronelive | thanks for the help. i will maybe get gem and try that too. |
| 11:16.11 | wasynyt | and compromises are really really bad |
| 11:16.13 | newuseronelive | see you |
| 11:16.24 | wasynyt | he was in a hurry |
| 11:16.56 | scar8 | wasynyt: but is possible in a way to choose if you want shelves or not |
| 11:17.25 | vipeltaejae | hello, how can i mount ntfs partition? |
| 11:17.33 | wasynyt | hmm that should be doable |
| 11:17.39 | keyra | vipeltaejae: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 11:17.42 | wasynyt | but i dont if it can yet be done |
| 11:17.52 | scar8 | wasynyt: do you commit in cvs??? |
| 11:17.57 | wasynyt | nope |
| 11:18.10 | wasynyt | apt wasynyt |
| 11:18.11 | apt | well, wasynyt is a weird slapping, or liking cervesa |
| 11:18.56 | wasynyt | vipeltaejae, gem should have support for mounting ntfs discs |
| 11:19.05 | scar8 | wasynyt: i thought i have seen your nick |
| 11:19.14 | wasynyt | that is very possible |
| 11:19.23 | wasynyt | i have been here for some time now |
| 11:19.45 | wasynyt | the dev is Thanatermesis |
| 11:19.51 | Chi11y | hello |
| 11:19.53 | Chi11y | =) |
| 11:19.59 | wasynyt | good afternoon Chi11y |
| 11:20.34 | scar8 | i know |
| 11:20.44 | wasynyt | good |
| 11:20.54 | scar8 | and elivecd leader |
| 11:21.01 | Chi11y | wasynyt: do you know if the kernel bug has been fixed yet? |
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| 11:21.25 | wasynyt | nope.. but i think gplgeek is doing something for it |
| 11:21.31 | Chi11y | ok.. |
| 11:21.45 | wasynyt | the only real solution is that thana comes back and makes a new kernel |
| 11:21.53 | Chi11y | cuz I hasn't dared to upgrade since I heard of it |
| 11:21.59 | Chi11y | :P |
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| 11:22.32 | wasynyt | heh well it does not affect if you dont have any use for kernel source.. but i guess some drivers are borken too |
| 11:23.00 | wasynyt | but you can do selective update in synaptic.. just dont update any drivers/kernel stuff |
| 11:23.06 | wasynyt | that is my recomendation |
| 11:26.48 | scar8 | wasynyt: goodbye everyone see you all. |
| 11:26.55 | wasynyt | see you later |
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| 11:30.57 | Chi11y | wasynyt, ok.. =) |
| 11:36.51 | jonah1980 | hey guys what's the easiest way to install more fonts in elive? like for using design apps? |
| 11:50.57 | jonah1980 | oh never mind, i made a .fonts folder in home and that worked |
| 11:51.13 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 11:51.29 | jonah1980 | can't wait for this new kernel, hope he makes one, i can't download the fix cos i keep missing fosszombie in here and the torrent has not seeds |
| 11:52.07 | wasynyt | hmm well i guess he will repair the kernel as it is clearly broken |
| 11:53.19 | jonah1980 | wasynyt, when is he back from his trip away? |
| 11:53.26 | wasynyt | i dont know |
| 11:53.46 | wasynyt | i guess he will return when he will |
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| 12:13.39 | Elive_user50 | how you doing |
| 12:13.54 | Elive_user50 | halloooo |
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| 12:38.28 | dozi77 | hi * |
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| 13:57.26 | Elive_user54 | who use linux elive? |
| 13:57.43 | jonah1980 | i use elive yeah |
| 13:57.47 | jonah1980 | most people in here use it |
| 13:57.51 | jonah1980 | it's the elive chat room |
| 13:58.10 | Elive_user54 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.18 | scar8 | not yet |
| 13:58.19 | jonah1980 | nope |
| 13:58.31 | Elive_user54 | and when? |
| 13:58.35 | jonah1980 | there is no desktop in gem |
| 13:58.47 | scar8 | thanatermesis knows |
| 13:58.56 | Elive_user54 | so i use programmes only from the bars? |
| 13:59.15 | scar8 | dont you like it? |
| 13:59.41 | Elive_user54 | well i will get used to it!!! |
| 14:00.13 | jonah1980 | it's very nice when you get used to it |
| 14:00.32 | Elive_user54 | how can i change my screensaver? |
| 14:00.38 | jonah1980 | why have a desktop dragging your productivity down when you can put docks and panels everywhere |
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| 14:02.08 | Elive_user54 | is anyone from greece? |
| 14:02.51 | Elive_user54 | do you use elive? |
| 14:04.41 | scar8 | i am |
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| 14:29.18 | amigamia | is anyone here? |
| 14:29.52 | amigamia | i have had a miserable time trying to install elive in vm using the install process on my macbook. everything else runs seamlessly but elive install is all goofy. |
| 14:29.56 | amigamia | any suggestions? |
| 14:32.53 | roxville | amigamia, what you can do, is run apt-get update and apt-get insta;; eliveinstaller* to see if there is an update |
| 14:33.11 | roxville | apt-get install |
| 14:34.56 | roxville | or just open synaptic after running apt-get update and look in the elive section for the installer |
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| 14:39.53 | amigamia | ok |
| 14:40.07 | amigamia | brb |
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| 14:41.51 | amigamia | ok i have to reinstall it i deleted the install. it would not boot. it just sat there. it asked about grub at the end and i did not know ow to respond with it being in a vm |
| 14:45.38 | roxville | amigamia, i have no idea about that either... ask linuxnit or fosszombie or... bryan or... someone |
| 14:45.45 | amigamia | ok |
| 14:45.55 | roxville | i have never run a vm, so i have no idea |
| 14:45.58 | amigamia | ok thanks roxville |
| 14:46.02 | amigamia | hey is that you roxville? |
| 14:46.06 | amigamia | how are your children? |
| 14:46.11 | roxville | no it's not |
| 14:46.13 | amigamia | roxville i have a macbook now :) |
| 14:46.18 | roxville | it's my mom |
| 14:46.25 | amigamia | huh? |
| 14:46.33 | roxville | i am not me, i am my mom |
| 14:46.37 | amigamia | lahh |
| 14:46.39 | amigamia | ahh |
| 14:46.42 | roxville | lol |
| 14:46.50 | amigamia | brb |
| 14:46.50 | roxville | the kids are good, thx :) |
| 14:46.58 | amigamia | ler me reinstall elive |
| 14:47.03 | amigamia | in vmware |
| 14:47.22 | roxville | my daughter, now 5 just had her first sleepover... a girl in her class that lives in the same complex spent the night here |
| 14:47.43 | roxville | i fear what the future will bring in terms of sleepovers... |
| 14:47.45 | amigamia | ahh |
| 14:47.48 | amigamia | haha |
| 14:47.51 | amigamia | you betcha |
| 14:48.01 | roxville | :) |
| 14:48.06 | amigamia | easy bake ovens and all that stuff too :D |
| 14:48.12 | roxville | ok amigamia good luck :) |
| 14:48.21 | amigamia | thanks brb |
| 14:48.25 | roxville | oh god... we'll see... |
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| 14:57.42 | amigamia | ok creating 2 partitions now |
| 14:57.48 | amigamia | almost finished. |
| 14:57.53 | amigamia | then i will do the install |
| 14:58.03 | amigamia | then i will see about this boot option that threw me off before. |
| 14:58.10 | amigamia | remember this is on a macbook using vmware |
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| 14:59.16 | amigamia | swap is the big or the llittle file? |
| 14:59.19 | amigamia | i forget now |
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| 14:59.46 | amigamia | darnit i blew it |
| 14:59.48 | amigamia | brb |
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| 15:02.08 | amigamia | ok it is building now. |
| 15:02.16 | amigamia | in a minute it should be installed. |
| 15:02.30 | amigamia | next it asks for the boot grub thingy what do i tell it? |
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| 15:05.49 | roxville | amigamia, i have no idea, i'm sorry |
| 15:06.14 | roxville | mathmanp, do you know if you install grub when using a vm? |
| 15:06.18 | amigamia | no that is not good enough! |
| 15:06.20 | amigamia | that is not good enough! :D |
| 15:06.25 | amigamia | i need an answer NOW :D |
| 15:06.37 | OpenSpace | amigamia, from where do you want to boot? |
| 15:06.47 | amigamia | it boots from vmware |
| 15:06.50 | amigamia | i am on a macbook. |
| 15:06.53 | OpenSpace | do you have virtual disk there? |
| 15:06.57 | amigamia | yes |
| 15:07.09 | amigamia | a hard file i guess it is called |
| 15:07.17 | amigamia | i gave it like 5gig |
| 15:07.27 | amigamia | make 2 partitions in that file |
| 15:07.35 | OpenSpace | so, I think it should be as usual - MBR (but of virtual disk) |
| 15:07.56 | amigamia | ok almost finished i will know in a minute |
| 15:08.01 | amigamia | thank you everyone |
| 15:08.08 | amigamia | we shall know in a few seconds |
| 15:12.01 | amigamia | wow recognizes wwireless :D |
| 15:13.47 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:14.56 | amigamia | umm |
| 15:15.09 | amigamia | i want to shut it down but i dont know how to ge root |
| 15:15.14 | amigamia | sudo |
| 15:15.17 | amigamia | right? |
| 15:17.57 | OpenSpace | me too |
| 15:18.31 | amigamia | well i telnetted to a bbs :D |
| 15:18.38 | amigamia | brb |
| 15:20.58 | amigamia | ok rebooting now |
| 15:21.37 | amigamia | ok woeks :D |
| 15:21.42 | amigamia | awesome |
| 15:22.04 | mathmanp | apt cheer amigamia |
| 15:22.05 | apt | ACTION cheers amigamia on |
| 15:22.29 | amigamia | it is fine tuning now :D |
| 15:22.33 | amigamia | i am very pleased |
| 15:22.44 | amigamia | thanks for all the support and advice and direction and stuff :D |
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| 15:32.44 | wasynyt | good evening people |
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| 15:35.30 | wasynyt | good evening roxville_ |
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| 15:36.43 | wasynyt | good evening jonah1980 |
| 15:37.49 | jonah1980 | wasynyt, hi, i'm still on the look out for FossZombie, but I spose the time difference is big so he'll be only ever on in the early hours? |
| 15:38.02 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 15:38.15 | wasynyt | perhaps |
| 15:38.44 | jonah1980 | it's frustrating knowing the the fixed kernel is out there but i can't get to it |
| 15:39.01 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 15:49.31 | roxville_ | hi wasynyt |
| 15:49.47 | roxville_ | sorry for being slow, i'm dealing with daughter too... |
| 15:50.08 | wasynyt | heh that is a very good reason |
| 15:50.41 | roxville_ | you have no idea... |
| 15:50.42 | roxville_ | :D |
| 15:51.02 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 15:51.09 | wasynyt | yup i dont |
| 15:51.21 | roxville_ | lol |
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| 15:58.04 | wasynyt | see you later peopel |
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| 16:01.11 | Wizard | hello :) |
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| 16:13.02 | Elive_user47 | salve |
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| 16:37.19 | Elive_user33 | hi |
| 16:38.55 | Elive_user33 | I want to have a volume mixer in elive maybe accesible maybe as a desktop gadget anyone knows how to do that? |
| 16:39.16 | jonah1980 | yeah just use the normal alsa mixer and add it to your dock |
| 16:39.31 | jonah1980 | open up the mixer from the menu |
| 16:39.43 | jonah1980 | then when it's open drag it's icon to the dock |
| 16:39.52 | jonah1980 | then you can change the icon if you want to a better one or whatever |
| 16:41.12 | Elive_user33 | yeah thanks jonah1980!!! let me try that... phew! you guys are fast! |
| 16:43.08 | jonah1980 | elive is so customisable that you shouldn't be put off by it's default layout, i hat it as it' comes but i spend like a day getting all how i like it and then it's amazing and mega usuable |
| 16:45.38 | Elive_user33 | I have a little problem as I am a new elive user but how do I add something to my dock? |
| 16:45.52 | keyra | Elive_user33: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
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| 16:46.31 | loizos | wh is using elive? |
| 16:46.42 | Elive_user33 | how do I add something to my dock? |
| 16:47.22 | loizos | when you say something what do you mean? |
| 16:47.23 | jonah1980 | open it |
| 16:47.39 | jonah1980 | then pull it's icon into the dock, it's icon will be in top corner of it, it's logo |
| 16:48.03 | loizos | oh thats the way eh? |
| 16:48.18 | loizos | i didn't know that |
| 16:48.32 | Elive_user33 | I tried and it works!!!! thanks again jopnah1980 |
| 16:49.03 | loizos | where are you from? |
| 16:49.57 | loizos | i'm new i the liux world and i want some good hacig programmes!!! because in the past i hacked with winxp |
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| 16:50.27 | loizos | do you know any?? |
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| 16:51.04 | jonah1980 | dunno what hacig apps are to be honest |
| 16:51.07 | jonah1980 | i'm in uk |
| 16:52.39 | loizos | what doyou mean? you don't know any acking programme? |
| 16:54.13 | loizos | is anyoe here? |
| 16:54.24 | loizos | is anyone here? |
| 17:04.27 | *** join/#elive Theoden (n=nobody@71-6-50-247.static-ip.telepacific.net) |
| 17:06.41 | jonah1980 | the best hackers tool is eterm on elive, the power of the command line is king |
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| 17:11.19 | bentejuy | hello all! |
| 17:11.29 | loizos | where can i download it from? |
| 17:14.51 | loizos | jonah1980??? |
| 17:18.05 | loizos | is anyone online? |
| 17:21.00 | bentejuy | sorry loizos, i have come late, are you speaking of elive? |
| 17:21.26 | loizos | yes i am |
| 17:22.21 | loizos | oh sorry i don't mean form where ican download elive but the eterm programme that johan1980 told me |
| 17:22.57 | keyra | loizos: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 17:23.25 | loizos | really?!?!?!? lol |
| 17:24.06 | Theoden | apt-get install eterm |
| 17:24.13 | bentejuy | if you want stable version: http://www.elivecd.org/Download/Stable.html |
| 17:25.09 | loizos | any other good hacking tools/programmes? |
| 17:26.57 | bentejuy | all e17 :) |
| 17:27.20 | loizos | what is e17? |
| 17:27.42 | jonah1980 | e17 is the desktop enviromnet |
| 17:28.06 | loizos | oh yeah. i forgot it!!! |
| 17:28.17 | loizos | is anyone hacker here? |
| 17:30.30 | loizos | can anyone tell me a god antivrus for linux? |
| 17:32.57 | loizos | plz i need to know. can i add icons in my desktop???????????if yes how? |
| 17:36.11 | jonah1980 | loizos, there is no desktop |
| 17:36.28 | jonah1980 | loizos, you don't need antivirus on linux, you can't get viruses |
| 17:36.53 | jonah1980 | loizos, and there isn't a desktop on elive, you don't have icons on desktop, you set up docks etc and panels for your stuff |
| 17:36.55 | bentejuy | loizos, the viruses in linux are like the UFO, everybody says that they exist, but nobody has seen any ever |
| 17:37.01 | bentejuy | sorry for me english :) |
| 17:37.47 | loizos | really!!! i didn't knw that? no viruses!!!!! aaah "dreaming" |
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| 17:45.19 | bentejuy | loizos, the next version of elive, possibly it have the last version of e17, this version allows to put icons in the desktop |
| 17:46.05 | loizos | how? i cannot put icons in my desktop |
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| 17:52.41 | bentejuy | loizos, Thanatermesis is working on it, but he wants that the next e17 on elive is as stable as possible |
| 17:53.31 | loizos | who is thanatermesis? |
| 17:53.38 | Elive_user75 | nick Elive_Brasil |
| 17:54.11 | loizos | what do you mean? |
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| 17:56.27 | bentejuy | loizos, http://elivecd.com/Main/Contact.html |
| 17:59.09 | Elive_user28 | quit |
| 17:59.13 | Elive_user28 | exit |
| 17:59.24 | Chi11y | BUSTED |
| 17:59.27 | Chi11y | ;P |
| 17:59.51 | Elive_user75 | ?) |
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| 18:04.35 | Theoden | Hey Ho all |
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| 18:29.42 | Elive_user53 | hello with elive it is possible to install kde and use that as the window manager right? |
| 18:30.08 | Elive_user53 | ive selected all of kde and installing wondering if what i wanna do will work in the end |
| 18:30.27 | Elive_user53 | or if im wasting my time |
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| 18:35.34 | loizos | is anyone online? |
| 18:36.20 | Elive_user53 | nope |
| 18:36.27 | Elive_user53 | they all on a holliday |
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| 18:36.31 | Elive_user53 | its the week end |
| 18:36.38 | loizos | haha very funny |
| 18:37.11 | Elive_user53 | well ok seems they are on vacation cuc i asked a few qustion and yet to get answers |
| 18:37.12 | scar8 | hello |
| 18:37.20 | Elive_user53 | cuz* |
| 18:38.10 | loizos | dos anyone know this site:www.hacthissite.com ? it doesn't exist anymore!!!why? |
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| 18:39.05 | loizos | anyone? |
| 18:39.11 | Elive_user53 | no idea |
| 18:39.48 | loizos | that was a very good hacking site and it disappear!!!! |
| 18:40.03 | Elive_user53 | gee wonder why |
| 18:40.13 | Elive_user53 | i couldnt imagine |
| 18:40.17 | loizos | what do you ean? |
| 18:40.24 | loizos | what do you mean |
| 18:40.53 | loizos | eh? |
| 18:40.54 | Elive_user53 | ummm hacking is against the laws so i imagine when the boys in blue learned of that site...they shut it down |
| 18:41.17 | Elive_user53 | that would be my guess |
| 18:41.26 | Elive_user53 | just a hunch really |
| 18:41.31 | loizos | it wasn't an illigall site . |
| 18:41.55 | loizos | it was very good :( |
| 18:42.02 | Elive_user53 | sure and pot and crack isnt illigal ither |
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| 18:43.12 | loizos | did i mantion www.crackthissite.org??????? NO i said hacker and not cracker,there is a diff. |
| 18:43.32 | *** part/#elive Elive_user30 (n=Elive_us@chello089076062136.chello.pl) |
| 18:44.14 | Elive_user53 | not really |
| 18:44.25 | Elive_user53 | cracking is to crack software |
| 18:44.32 | Elive_user53 | hacking is all other stuff |
| 18:44.40 | loizos | what do you mean not really? |
| 18:44.45 | Elive_user53 | read |
| 18:45.14 | loizos | it seems that you don't know about hacking or cracking |
| 18:45.30 | Elive_user53 | thats funny i was thinking same thing bout you |
| 18:45.53 | loizos | really how old are you? |
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| 18:46.11 | Elive_user53 | old enough to be your dad |
| 18:46.38 | loizos | you steal didn't tell me yor age..... i'm waiting |
| 18:47.11 | Elive_user53 | im gonna assume your meaning to say you still didnt tell me your age |
| 18:47.29 | loizos | i want a number!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:47.37 | Elive_user53 | stand in line and take one |
| 18:47.47 | Elive_user53 | someone will be with you shortly :) |
| 18:48.21 | loizos | haha you are very funny..... nah iiiii'm just kiding!!!lol |
| 18:49.28 | Elive_user53 | :) |
| 18:49.43 | loizos | and what are you? a hacker? |
| 18:49.59 | Elive_user53 | im me is that you? |
| 18:50.18 | loizos | because i'm too so stfup!!!!! |
| 18:50.36 | Elive_user53 | really your a hacker huh? |
| 18:50.52 | Elive_user53 | i dont imagine you get to far with some the spelling you have |
| 18:51.16 | loizos | hallo!!!!i'm from greece |
| 18:51.32 | Elive_user53 | i am from canada how do ya do? |
| 18:52.17 | loizos | you speak english and i speak greek palio karioli. |
| 18:52.35 | loizos | the last one was greek!!!!! |
| 18:52.46 | Elive_user53 | your english is pretty good despite the spelling |
| 18:53.42 | loizos | what's wrong with the speeling???? |
| 18:54.24 | Elive_user53 | some of it isnt very good |
| 18:54.32 | Elive_user53 | spelling :) |
| 18:55.47 | loizos | OH I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN!!! |
| 18:55.58 | Elive_user53 | anyways was a pleasure playing around with ya but i must go have things to do so take care and have a nice day |
| 19:04.05 | wasynyt | loizos, please dont use any more than one !/? marks.. but i agree that eliveuser53 didnt know how to behave |
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| 19:06.32 | Elive_user43 | is anyone online? |
| 19:08.01 | Elive_user43 | and now you are |
| 19:09.55 | Theoden | Hey guys - FYI - great web site ... http://rudd-o.com/archives/category/linux/ |
| 19:13.29 | wasynyt | back |
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| 19:25.02 | loizos_aggelos | who is there? |
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| 20:12.12 | Elive_user53 | all the administrative applications run from e-live panel do not stasrt after putting in the root passs |
| 20:12.23 | Elive_user53 | can anybudy tell me wht coudl be the problem? |
| 20:13.02 | Elive_user53 | also my fine tune setup did not work |
| 20:13.11 | Elive_user53 | ?? |
| 20:15.52 | amigamia | umm |
| 20:15.58 | amigamia | did you reboot? |
| 20:16.04 | Elive_user53 | yes i did |
| 20:16.09 | amigamia | i am doing it in vmware |
| 20:16.17 | Elive_user53 | it again said put in ur root pass for fine tune |
| 20:16.21 | Elive_user53 | put nothing happens |
| 20:16.40 | amigamia | dont enter anything and see what it does |
| 20:16.42 | amigamia | it doesnt no it yet does it? |
| 20:16.48 | amigamia | go with blank |
| 20:17.15 | Elive_user53 | it did work the first time when i did install on night ver its showing alott atroubles |
| 20:17.34 | Elive_user53 | k one more thing |
| 20:17.41 | amigamia | are you using gem? |
| 20:17.48 | Elive_user53 | yes |
| 20:18.10 | Elive_user53 | anyway to confirm that..btw..sorry :S |
| 20:18.12 | amigamia | gosh i am trying to logn after running install i just woke up and i left it and now it wont let me in. i dont know about gem i dont have that one i have the earlier one. |
| 20:18.18 | amigamia | sorry about what? |
| 20:18.19 | amigamia | :) |
| 20:18.24 | amigamia | i cant login!!! |
| 20:18.26 | amigamia | DLD |
| 20:18.30 | amigamia | on no! |
| 20:18.37 | Elive_user53 | how can i knwo its elive gem .0 |
| 20:18.42 | Elive_user53 | iso i doenloaded said so |
| 20:19.11 | Elive_user53 | and whne i do the uname -r it says 2.6.18 |
| 20:19.24 | Elive_user53 | i dld elive gem 1.0 |
| 20:19.25 | amigamia | umm where is weveryone? i only woke up cause i woke up i have to work tonite. augh i cannot login o the vm thinkgy |
| 20:19.29 | amigamia | umm |
| 20:19.38 | Elive_user53 | anyway to confirm that |
| 20:19.40 | amigamia | i am stupid elive :) |
| 20:19.43 | amigamia | user :) |
| 20:19.47 | amigamia | change your name |
| 20:20.08 | Elive_user53 | rite clicking and doing an about shows a vey weird number |
| 20:20.25 | Elive_user53 | ..16.999.16 |
| 20:20.39 | Elive_user53 | whcih i guess is the elightment desktop developer ver |
| 20:21.12 | amigamia | i got in :) |
| 20:21.14 | amigamia | whew |
| 20:21.18 | Elive_user53 | finally |
| 20:21.19 | Elive_user53 | gud fro u |
| 20:21.21 | Elive_user53 | :P |
| 20:21.21 | amigamia | i was about to delete the vm thingy :) |
| 20:21.26 | amigamia | ok now what is your issue? |
| 20:21.29 | Elive_user53 | u did on vm |
| 20:21.32 | Elive_user53 | must be a lilslow |
| 20:21.33 | amigamia | remember i dont know anything but i will listen :) |
| 20:21.34 | amigamia | yes |
| 20:21.39 | amigamia | heck no |
| 20:21.39 | Elive_user53 | hehe |
| 20:21.40 | Elive_user53 | yar |
| 20:21.44 | amigamia | i am on a powermac :) |
| 20:21.49 | Elive_user53 | ohh |
| 20:22.05 | Elive_user53 | adn on that note i would have to say i dont know what that is |
| 20:22.07 | Elive_user53 | :p |
| 20:22.14 | amigamia | i have ubuntu, vista xppro 2000 elive backtrack aros a bunch in vmware and it is super fast :) |
| 20:22.27 | amigamia | a powermac ? :D |
| 20:22.39 | Elive_user53 | and vmware is on which OS? |
| 20:22.45 | amigamia | osx |
| 20:22.52 | Elive_user53 | nice |
| 20:22.56 | amigamia | yes |
| 20:23.04 | Elive_user53 | buy y do uahve so many ditros at the ssame time |
| 20:23.22 | amigamia | 2+ ghz dual core with 2gig ram and alot more. |
| 20:23.48 | Elive_user53 | still u must stick to at a time |
| 20:24.00 | amigamia | because i can and it give me time to play with them all and show to my co workers that i can and they cant :D |
| 20:24.11 | Elive_user53 | by the by i haev winxp ,mint cassandra 3,0 ad elive gem on my lap top |
| 20:24.17 | Elive_user53 | lol |
| 20:24.26 | Elive_user53 | tried mint? |
| 20:24.30 | Elive_user53 | very stable and nice |
| 20:24.31 | amigamia | well i am a girl i can do what i want to i dont have to stick to anything but yeah maybe so. |
| 20:24.37 | Elive_user53 | especially compiz |
| 20:24.55 | Elive_user53 | hunmph |
| 20:25.01 | amigamia | well we had mint growing in the back yard and my cousins and i used to pick it and suck the mint juice sure. |
| 20:25.02 | Elive_user53 | now thers a weird statemnt |
| 20:25.25 | amigamia | you could make tea |
| 20:25.29 | Elive_user53 | "./ignore " on miss anigma or whoever u r |
| 20:25.38 | wasynyt | amigamia, ? |
| 20:25.49 | amigamia | ? |
| 20:25.54 | wasynyt | mint is linux distro |
| 20:26.03 | amigamia | mint is a plant |
| 20:26.06 | wasynyt | not tea nor plant |
| 20:26.19 | Elive_user53 | yeah and she is being all craazy |
| 20:26.23 | amigamia | maybe it is a name of distro too but he did not specify what he or she meant. |
| 20:26.30 | Elive_user53 | so wasynyt |
| 20:26.30 | wasynyt | http://linuxmint.com/ |
| 20:26.36 | Elive_user53 | canu help with my gilib here? |
| 20:26.48 | wasynyt | Elive_user53 give your self a name |
| 20:26.58 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.02 | amigamia | ahah |
| 20:27.41 | wasynyt | yeah |
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| 20:28.03 | *** join/#elive sambagirl (n=Elive_us@unaffiliated/sambagirl) |
| 20:28.07 | sambagirl | logd in |
| 20:28.15 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:28.16 | sambagirl | worked wasynth |
| 20:28.20 | sambagirl | it did a chant |
| 20:28.26 | amigamia | yepo |
| 20:28.26 | *** part/#elive Elive_user0 (n=Elive_us@203.81.206.51) |
| 20:28.35 | Elive_user53 | hey |
| 20:28.38 | amigamia | the first thing you do is make a name |
| 20:28.44 | Elive_user53 | i know the command its not working |
| 20:28.47 | Elive_user53 | but leave that |
| 20:28.57 | Elive_user53 | havew u used elive 1.0 gem? |
| 20:28.59 | wasynyt | just type /nick new_nick |
| 20:29.05 | Elive_user53 | it aint working |
| 20:29.06 | Elive_user53 | i know |
| 20:29.09 | Elive_user53 | i am an old irc user |
| 20:29.20 | wasynyt | odd |
| 20:29.23 | wasynyt | it should wotk |
| 20:29.24 | amigamia | why they dont use konversation ? |
| 20:29.27 | wasynyt | *work |
| 20:29.29 | Elive_user53 | i know |
| 20:29.32 | amigamia | all of us are |
| 20:29.36 | wasynyt | because it is a kde app |
| 20:29.37 | Elive_user53 | hey i jes installed elive |
| 20:29.45 | Elive_user53 | i will use better versions soon |
| 20:29.54 | Elive_user53 | plz help me with this prb!!?? |
| 20:29.57 | amigamia | we all like suicidal tendencies |
| 20:30.02 | amigamia | great guitarist rocky george |
| 20:30.07 | amigamia | he uses elive :D |
| 20:30.15 | wasynyt | no more than one !/? mark |
| 20:30.16 | amigamia | when he has soreness ;) |
| 20:30.20 | sambagirl | yepo |
| 20:30.37 | wasynyt | and use correct language |
| 20:30.46 | Elive_user53 | elive gem ...admin apllications are not running from elive panel |
| 20:30.49 | Wizard | hello :/ |
| 20:30.57 | wasynyt | you are not going to get help by using words like plz |
| 20:31.02 | Elive_user53 | some buddy come to my rescue |
| 20:31.05 | wasynyt | good evening Wizard |
| 20:31.15 | Elive_user53 | well what do u want ... |
| 20:31.17 | Elive_user53 | :S |
| 20:31.29 | wasynyt | what do i want ? |
| 20:31.37 | Wizard | Elive_user53: give more info |
| 20:31.39 | Elive_user53 | yes as u said plz wont work |
| 20:31.40 | wasynyt | use proper language, proper words |
| 20:31.50 | wasynyt | tell what you issue is |
| 20:32.02 | wasynyt | so that someone who knows about it can help |
| 20:32.29 | amigamia | hello |
| 20:32.30 | Elive_user53 | well the thing is admin applications for example setting wired sconnection dont run from the default elive panel |
| 20:32.43 | Elive_user53 | it jest asks for the pass and does nothig after |
| 20:32.56 | wasynyt | can you use su in terminal ? |
| 20:33.03 | Elive_user53 | yes |
| 20:33.11 | Elive_user53 | i did set it like that |
| 20:33.16 | wasynyt | ? |
| 20:33.18 | Elive_user53 | and many otehr things like samba n stuff |
| 20:33.24 | Wizard | Elive_user53: i had simmilar problem, but that was corrected by debian/gnome team |
| 20:33.35 | Elive_user53 | but i wnna set the thing |
| 20:33.36 | Elive_user53 | acha |
| 20:33.39 | Elive_user53 | wizard |
| 20:33.40 | wasynyt | elive has a proper su to begin with |
| 20:33.41 | Elive_user53 | how do i do that |
| 20:34.08 | Elive_user53 | what do u mean that it was corrected by debian/gnu team |
| 20:34.26 | Elive_user53 | how do i do that ,i f u would plz care to elaborate...wizard |
| 20:34.49 | wasynyt | i guess he will help if he wants |
| 20:34.55 | wasynyt | you dont need to beg |
| 20:34.57 | amigamia | it is so amazing how elive recognizes the mac wifi and just works :) |
| 20:35.00 | amigamia | is bryant around? |
| 20:35.03 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:35.21 | Wizard | Elive_user53: that was issue with gnome-system-settings packages |
| 20:35.24 | wasynyt | thana has done a lot work with elivemac version |
| 20:35.55 | Wizard | hmm.. i can't run elive on mine :/ |
| 20:36.00 | Elive_user53 | so is there a particular package in synaptic i could jes downlaod and get itover with |
| 20:36.11 | Elive_user53 | or is it a lill more cumbersome |
| 20:36.23 | Wizard | first: open terminal, su, and than elpanel |
| 20:36.29 | Wizard | and check if everything is ok |
| 20:36.36 | Elive_user53 | okay |
| 20:37.30 | Elive_user53 | great!! |
| 20:37.33 | Elive_user53 | it worked |
| 20:37.41 | *** join/#elive crm (n=crm@5.64.96.58.exetel.com.au) |
| 20:37.51 | Elive_user53 | now could it work without chaging to root prevliges? |
| 20:38.01 | Wizard | ok, so now, open another terminal and try gksu elpanel |
| 20:38.25 | Wizard | Elive_user53: i allways used sudo instead of gksu/su |
| 20:38.49 | crm | any chance i can get someone to build a kernel module for me? |
| 20:38.59 | crm | http://raop-play.sourceforge.net/alsa_raoppcm.html |
| 20:39.20 | Wizard | crm, you can do this on your own |
| 20:39.23 | Wizard | it's easy |
| 20:39.41 | Elive_user53 | hey wizard |
| 20:39.46 | Elive_user53 | it said alota stuff |
| 20:39.53 | Elive_user53 | including fix u r code |
| 20:39.58 | Wizard | hmm |
| 20:40.02 | Elive_user53 | spank spank |
| 20:40.03 | Wizard | gksu, right ? |
| 20:40.04 | Elive_user53 | tutu ut tu |
| 20:40.07 | Elive_user53 | yes |
| 20:40.11 | Elive_user53 | gksu elpanel |
| 20:40.17 | wasynyt | Elive_user53, behave |
| 20:40.23 | Elive_user53 | what does taht tell me |
| 20:40.32 | crm | Wizard, i don't have the kernel sources installed atm.. nor am i running a custom kernel |
| 20:40.37 | Wizard | hmm.. but did you see some password window ? |
| 20:40.51 | crm | just the standard elive kernel image |
| 20:40.52 | Elive_user53 | i was jes telling wht the console wrorte |
| 20:40.53 | Elive_user53 | yes |
| 20:40.56 | Wizard | crm: you can allways install kernel headers and build agains them |
| 20:41.02 | Elive_user53 | it asked for admin pas |
| 20:41.04 | Wizard | Elive_user53: :/ |
| 20:41.13 | Wizard | so, it's a problem with gksu |
| 20:41.17 | Elive_user53 | acha |
| 20:41.19 | wasynyt | Wizard, the current elive kernel headers seem broken |
| 20:41.27 | Elive_user53 | anyway to fix it |
| 20:41.39 | Wizard | try apt-get --reinstall install gksu |
| 20:42.35 | Elive_user53 | okay ..and thanks for helping me along with this ...u haev been a great help ...tahns again |
| 20:42.43 | Elive_user53 | iam reinstallingnow |
| 20:42.45 | Theoden | wasynyt: That's my web page |
| 20:42.57 | wasynyt | nice |
| 20:43.19 | Wizard | Elive_user53: i hope it'll work |
| 20:43.38 | Wizard | wasynyt: really ? |
| 20:43.44 | crm | Wizard, its looking for /lib/module/2.6.18/build? |
| 20:43.52 | Elive_user53 | i hope too..:D |
| 20:44.14 | Wizard | :] |
| 20:44.26 | crm | Wizard, im sure it would only take someone a couple of minutes to make this module for me |
| 20:45.07 | wasynyt | well the kernel seems to have some messup with gcc |
| 20:45.46 | Wizard | crm, but you can compile your own kernel, i don't like it, but you can :P |
| 20:46.06 | crm | Wizard, yea.. but i don't want to =) |
| 20:46.59 | crm | i will miss out some command and end up with a machine that wont boot |
| 20:47.42 | *** join/#elive Elive_user96 (n=Elive_us@135.pool85-53-5.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 20:47.56 | wasynyt | Theoden, but why whisky in the page |
| 20:47.59 | Elive_user53 | hey it did reintall successfully..wizard..but still the same problem it says :-"unable to locate theme engine in module path"experience'" |
| 20:48.11 | Theoden | wasynyt: I like Whisky. |
| 20:48.12 | Wizard | Elive_user53: this is just a warning :/ |
| 20:48.18 | wasynyt | as do i |
| 20:48.19 | Theoden | 'nuff said. |
| 20:48.22 | Theoden | lol |
| 20:48.27 | Elive_user53 | yes |
| 20:48.46 | Wizard | do you see any errors? |
| 20:48.52 | Elive_user53 | and also .. |
| 20:48.58 | Wizard | for example when you type in your password ? |
| 20:49.26 | Elive_user53 | in the terminal i c many xlib errors |
| 20:49.34 | Elive_user53 | like.. |
| 20:49.41 | Wizard | Elive_user53: wklej.org |
| 20:49.51 | Elive_user53 | connections to 0.0refused by server |
| 20:49.51 | Wizard | paste it there and give mi link |
| 20:49.52 | Elive_user53 | ooh |
| 20:49.53 | Elive_user53 | okay then |
| 20:49.57 | Elive_user53 | wiki it is |
| 20:50.05 | Elive_user53 | but i may still bug u soon:p |
| 20:50.26 | Elive_user53 | acha |
| 20:50.29 | Elive_user53 | ohkay |
| 20:52.56 | Wizard | and ? |
| 20:53.50 | *** part/#elive scar8 (n=scar@87.203.145.123) |
| 20:56.04 | Elive_user53 | hey i am really embarrased to ask this ..but i cant freakin copy the error ...so i cant paste it anywhere |
| 20:56.17 | Elive_user53 | tried ctrl+C..and ctrl+insert |
| 20:56.18 | keyra | Elive_user53: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time |
| 20:56.21 | sambagirl | heh |
| 20:56.32 | sambagirl | change your name elive_user53 |
| 20:56.33 | Elive_user53 | oh |
| 20:56.34 | Elive_user53 | thansk |
| 20:56.49 | amigamia | wow |
| 20:56.52 | amigamia | wad |
| 20:56.53 | wad | ./nick wadood |
| 20:56.55 | amigamia | coolio |
| 20:57.00 | amigamia | ahh |
| 20:57.01 | wadood | okay now |
| 20:57.08 | amigamia | now that is better |
| 20:57.23 | amigamia | imagine if the channel had 1000 elive_users :D |
| 20:57.32 | amigamia | whew would be like a scifi horror movie :D |
| 20:57.39 | amigamia | attack of the elive_users :D |
| 20:57.44 | sambagirl | just like zombies |
| 20:57.52 | amigamia | yep |
| 20:57.58 | sambagirl | yep |
| 20:58.16 | sambagirl | bbl |
| 20:58.29 | wasynyt | that is something we experience everyday |
| 20:58.36 | amigamia | haha |
| 20:58.45 | amigamia | whew |
| 20:59.25 | wasynyt | ? |
| 21:00.10 | wadood | hey i cant seem to understand the lang in that site so here u go....sorry for this,,i knwo iam being a pian in the ******* |
| 21:00.13 | wadood | wad@wad's elive linux-box[~]$ gksu elpanel |
| 21:00.13 | wadood | (gksu:4327): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "experience", |
| 21:00.13 | wadood | Edje launcher |
| 21:00.13 | wadood | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 21:00.14 | wadood | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 21:00.16 | wadood | *** ECORE ERROR: Ecore Magic Check Failed!!! |
| 21:00.17 | wadood | *** IN FUNCTION: ecore_evas_title_set() |
| 21:00.19 | wadood | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.21 | wadood | *** NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER!!! |
| 21:00.23 | wadood | *** SPANK SPANK SPANK!!! |
| 21:00.25 | wadood | *** Now go fix your code. Tut tut tu |
| 21:00.35 | wadood | this is what it says |
| 21:00.40 | wadood | and... |
| 21:01.48 | wadood | if i write just elpanel |
| 21:01.51 | wadood | without gksu |
| 21:01.55 | wadood | it says this |
| 21:01.57 | wadood | elpanel |
| 21:01.57 | wadood | Edje launcher |
| 21:01.57 | wadood | 518 320 |
| 21:01.57 | wadood | (gksu:4368): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "experience", |
| 21:01.57 | wadood | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 21:01.58 | wadood | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 21:02.00 | wadood | This option is not available. Please see --help for all possible usages. |
| 21:02.19 | wadood | well now the warning pasrt jes b4 password window opens |
| 21:02.20 | wadood | ??? |
| 21:04.29 | Wizard | wrr |
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| 21:04.43 | Wizard | wadood: don't run this as root |
| 21:04.50 | wadood | acha |
| 21:04.58 | Wizard | run it as ordinary user |
| 21:05.18 | wadood | i think ...yes i am sure i did it as ordinary user |
| 21:05.29 | wadood | su ..one i checked it worked |
| 21:05.43 | wadood | its the ordinary user one thas making all the fuss |
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| 21:07.49 | Wizard | hmm |
| 21:07.56 | Wizard | so, try xhost + |
| 21:09.21 | wadood | can u explain a lill more |
| 21:09.28 | wadood | so u want me jes write thsi |
| 21:09.33 | wadood | coz its says |
| 21:09.54 | wadood | ccess control disabled, clients can connect from any host |
| 21:11.58 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@150.243.117.35) |
| 21:12.29 | Wizard | x clients can connect from any host/user |
| 21:12.41 | Wizard | but it's not an issue, cuz x does not listen on tcp by default |
| 21:13.14 | wadood | hey great |
| 21:13.16 | wadood | it worked |
| 21:13.25 | wadood | i added myself from this xhost +wad |
| 21:13.27 | wadood | thingy |
| 21:13.30 | wadood | its workign now |
| 21:13.41 | wadood | nices |
| 21:13.42 | wadood | keke |
| 21:13.58 | wadood | i have been like granted admin prevliges |
| 21:14.10 | wadood | it doesnt solve the prb though |
| 21:14.18 | wadood | but in a way i thnk my prb is solve |
| 21:14.47 | wadood | sloved*..and ...!! |
| 21:14.48 | wadood | hnm |
| 21:15.05 | wadood | anythingu wanna suggest..andi f u dont mind me asking ..where r u from? |
| 21:16.01 | wadood | hey and listen is there anyone ican check the version of the elive gem i am using ..not kerenl the distro ver |
| 21:16.15 | *** join/#elive Elive_user16 (n=Elive_us@xdslen242.osnanet.de) |
| 21:16.29 | wadood | also doing "about" doesnt help coz that jes gives the elightment desktop dev version?? |
| 21:16.31 | Wizard | i'm from Poland.. |
| 21:16.35 | wadood | hnm |
| 21:16.56 | wadood | so anyway to check signaturs? |
| 21:17.02 | Wizard | if you wan't this change to be permanent, edit ~/.elxstrt and place that command there |
| 21:17.19 | Wizard | actually, i don't know |
| 21:17.21 | Wizard | :P |
| 21:17.34 | wadood | u mean /elxstrt |
| 21:17.57 | Wizard | no, i mean ~/.elxstrt |
| 21:18.00 | Wizard | iirc |
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| 21:19.18 | wadood | Warning: unknown mime-type for "/root/.elxstrt" -- using "application/*" |
| 21:19.19 | wadood | Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*" |
| 21:19.20 | wadood | ??/ |
| 21:19.30 | wadood | tell me the file loc |
| 21:19.39 | wadood | i will manualy change it there |
| 21:20.00 | wadood | btw i tried it both ways ...root and noraml..ame error that i ahve pasted above |
| 21:20.58 | wadood | ?? |
| 21:23.24 | wadood | pico worked |
| 21:23.27 | wadood | never mind |
| 21:23.34 | wadood | thanks Wizard |
| 21:23.41 | wadood | bunches of it |
| 21:24.32 | Wizard | not as root! |
| 21:24.33 | Wizard | :/ |
| 21:25.26 | wadood | no i dint try as root |
| 21:25.44 | wadood | oh sorry i di try as root |
| 21:27.52 | Wizard | unholy gods of underworld... |
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| 21:48.11 | wasynyt | good night people |
| 21:50.34 | wadood | yea goodnight |
| 21:50.43 | wadood | but u must knwo we r in diff timezones |
| 21:50.45 | wadood | lol |
| 21:51.10 | Wizard | see you wasynyt |
| 21:51.28 | Wizard | (i'm in the same timezone as him, but i work at night) |
| 21:51.34 | wadood | ohh |
| 21:51.41 | wasynyt | wadood, well i dont know.. perhaps you live in finland |
| 21:51.43 | wadood | its night tiem in Paksitan too lol |
| 21:52.10 | wasynyt | wadood, how many drinks have you had today ? |
| 21:52.18 | Wizard | lol :D |
| 21:52.20 | wadood | if u must know |
| 21:52.34 | wadood | i dont drink |
| 21:52.47 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 21:52.50 | wadood | as a matter of fact very few ppl drink in pak,coz of the religosu thingy |
| 21:52.57 | wasynyt | ahh k |
| 21:53.06 | wadood | wasynyt, u from? |
| 21:53.12 | wasynyt | read |
| 21:53.24 | wadood | most of the ppl here r from fnland and poland i c!! |
| 21:53.37 | Wizard | hehe, wrokng |
| 21:54.03 | Wizard | i've seen only one or two Poles hanging around.. |
| 21:54.17 | Wizard | bye |
| 21:54.19 | wadood | well i tghgt u were only ppl active on main so i tooka shot,i knew i was wrong..D |
| 21:54.37 | wadood | polish ppl called Poles |
| 21:54.40 | wadood | tsh a new one |
| 21:54.45 | wadood | no offense though |
| 21:54.53 | wadood | i did not knw |
| 21:54.54 | wadood | : |
| 21:54.54 | wadood | p |
| 21:54.58 | Wizard | i think so, let me check in dictionary |
| 21:55.03 | wadood | hheeh |
| 21:55.11 | wadood | u shoulda known |
| 21:55.18 | wadood | i googled |
| 21:55.21 | Wizard | yup |
| 21:55.21 | wadood | tsh rigth |
| 21:55.23 | wadood | hehehe |
| 21:55.35 | Wizard | i don't speak english very well |
| 21:55.36 | wadood | my geography sucks |
| 21:55.40 | wadood | wher is poland btw? |
| 21:55.52 | Wizard | lol, central Europe |
| 21:55.57 | wadood | me speaks fine<0-----lol |
| 21:56.04 | wadood | ahaa |
| 21:56.09 | wadood | europe |
| 21:56.19 | wadood | cold this time of the year? |
| 21:56.37 | wadood | and is finland arounf tehre somewhere too? |
| 21:57.20 | crm | built this damn kernel |
| 21:57.24 | crm | and about to reboot |
| 21:57.30 | Wizard | :] |
| 21:57.34 | Wizard | crm: good luck :D |
| 21:57.35 | crm | if it doesn't come back up.. im going to spew Wizard |
| 21:57.40 | Wizard | waiiit! |
| 21:57.42 | Wizard | oops |
| 21:57.44 | Wizard | :P |
| 21:57.48 | wadood | lol |
| 21:57.51 | wadood | he is doomed |
| 21:57.53 | Wizard | wadood: stop slapping me :( |
| 21:58.01 | wadood | forgot to tell him sth imp? |
| 21:59.02 | wadood | what do ppl mean when they say they are going to find the source and build the "anything" themselves |
| 21:59.08 | wadood | in crm case kernel |
| 22:00.12 | wadood | ctrl+esc is the shortcut key for seing process table...doesnt work in elive ..sugegstions? |
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| 22:01.03 | Wizard | top, in terminal |
| 22:01.11 | Wizard | crm: and? |
| 22:01.16 | crm | built.. but i lost the nice splash startup |
| 22:02.09 | Wizard | who cares about such crap? |
| 22:02.20 | Wizard | i don't remember when i rebooted my linux box :D |
| 22:03.25 | wad | ... |
| 22:03.50 | wad | this is may well known nick at univ and sbdher has already registered :( |
| 22:05.48 | *** join/#elive wad (n=Elive_us@203.81.206.51) |
| 22:06.03 | crm | im still getting this error: |
| 22:06.03 | crm | http://www.pastebin.ca/735732 |
| 22:06.06 | crm | any ideas? |
| 22:06.16 | *** part/#elive wad (n=Elive_us@203.81.206.51) |
| 22:06.19 | crm | im trying to build a driver |
| 22:11.32 | Wizard | crm: wait a second, i'm gonna look at this when i finnish dealing with one crappy server :/ |
| 22:15.37 | Wizard | crm: could you paste uname -a ? |
| 22:16.13 | crm | Linux mobile1 2.6.18-elive #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Oct 14 07:07:50 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 22:16.51 | Wizard | you used elive .config, right ? |
| 22:17.05 | crm | yea.. just changed the arch |
| 22:17.10 | Wizard | :) |
| 22:17.21 | Wizard | where does buil symlink leads ? |
| 22:17.40 | crm | ahh |
| 22:17.45 | crm | build is a symlink?? |
| 22:17.54 | crm | where is it supposed to point? |
| 22:18.04 | Wizard | i'm not sure, ls -l ;) |
| 22:18.20 | crm | hrm |
| 22:18.28 | Wizard | or file build |
| 22:18.31 | crm | it points back to the lib directory in the kernel source? |
| 22:18.31 | Wizard | what? |
| 22:18.53 | Wizard | wait a second, i need a smoke ;) |
| 22:18.54 | Wizard | brb |
| 22:22.52 | crm | no need |
| 22:22.53 | crm | sorted |
| 22:30.33 | Wizard | ? |
| 22:32.54 | crm | the symlink was broken |
| 22:35.33 | Wizard | did you fix it ? |
| 22:37.50 | crm | yea |
| 22:38.07 | crm | my airport express is now playing nice music from linux =) |
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| 22:47.20 | Wizard | :) |
| 22:47.28 | Wizard | cool |
| 22:47.37 | Wizard | ok, time to install dovecot :) |
| 22:47.49 | Wizard | and allow my users to get mail via imap |
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| 23:39.22 | withoutclass | hayoo |
| 23:43.14 | Wizard | chuja! |
| 23:46.04 | Elive_user33 | which is the best program to rip and burn a dvd in linux? |
| 23:46.32 | withoutclass | Elive_user33, www.google.com |
| 23:46.51 | Wizard | lol |
| 23:47.13 | Wizard | i've never did such thing, i dunno |
| 23:47.26 | Elive_user33 | hehehehe I'm on that right now |
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