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| 00:26.46 | FossZombie | jonah1980, whats up |
| 00:26.56 | FossZombie | ya one second |
| 00:31.34 | FossZombie | jonah1980, gplgeek.homelinux.org port:21 user:eliveuser pass:elive |
| 00:32.27 | FossZombie | ftp://eliveuser:elive@gplgeek.homelinux.org/Elive_Kernel_Fixed.tar in browser |
| 00:33.18 | FossZombie | jonah1980, I have not checked , because i've been working overtime, but i'm told thana was releasing a new working elive kernel |
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| 00:37.48 | FossZombie | hi bryanstein |
| 00:38.14 | bryanstein | hey FossZombie...just trying to get a decent wm for this BSD install |
| 00:38.23 | bryanstein | I have 3 here already... |
| 00:38.33 | bryanstein | very thin..super minimalistic |
| 00:38.34 | FossZombie | E works on bsd |
| 00:38.41 | bryanstein | yes I know |
| 00:38.48 | FossZombie | I'm still a fan of fluxbox |
| 00:38.57 | bryanstein | I use to be a flux fan |
| 00:39.09 | bryanstein | it runs like crap on this box though |
| 00:39.14 | FossZombie | really? |
| 00:39.23 | FossZombie | it was so light weight, bb with more features. |
| 00:39.50 | bryanstein | I may install it on BSD and see how she goes |
| 00:40.10 | bryanstein | I have alloywm... waimea and blackbox now |
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| 00:42.58 | bryanstein | wow either this refresh is dreadfully low or my eyes are melting |
| 00:42.59 | bryanstein | wow |
| 00:43.02 | jamesarthur | ok, where is the install button in elive? |
| 00:43.12 | bryanstein | bottom right jamesarthur |
| 00:43.21 | bryanstein | the first icon with the little lights |
| 00:43.24 | jamesarthur | thanks |
| 00:45.32 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, really, i've updated and no kernel at the moment |
| 00:45.49 | FossZombie | jonah1980, i just talked to thana, hes looking into it |
| 00:46.18 | FossZombie | he's had bad internet connections, very busy life, new computer, etc, etc, so he's going to start hitting some of those issues. |
| 00:46.44 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, cool thanks, i'll download your kernel for now |
| 00:47.29 | FossZombie | my package comes with scripts to install the kernel, and scripts to install the kernel and nvidia module. |
| 00:47.48 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, ok downloading now. didn't see you were talking to me at first, got into a game of wesnoth while i was waiting for you and then forgot to check back haha |
| 00:48.06 | FossZombie | the kernel is "the same version" so you need to click to force it to install.... it's just got the linking fixed. |
| 00:49.24 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, ok cool, so will the new elive kernel that thana puts in repo be essentially what you've done with it or will there be any other changes? |
| 00:50.00 | FossZombie | well, when he puts it in the repo it will be like mine, but it will have nvidia, fglrx(ati), and other drivers compiled against it |
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| 00:50.07 | KalvinManson | hi |
| 00:50.14 | FossZombie | I only did the one driver. |
| 00:50.21 | FossZombie | hi KalvinManson |
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| 00:50.43 | KalvinManson | you know how modify de favorite menu |
| 00:50.52 | KalvinManson | ? |
| 00:51.24 | FossZombie | can't you do that in entangle, to be honest I've never really modified the favorites menu. |
| 00:52.05 | FossZombie | I've got to go to a meeting now, ill see you guys later. Thana's sleeping a bit then he's going to start working on that to-do list. =) |
| 00:53.10 | KalvinManson | how I put the icon of a software installed in the principal menu or in the ibar |
| 00:53.14 | KalvinManson | ? |
| 00:54.15 | bryanstein | KalvinManson, |
| 00:54.29 | KalvinManson | tell me |
| 00:54.39 | Bryanstein | lol tell me |
| 00:55.00 | Bryanstein | ok what you need to do is run the program fist |
| 00:55.02 | Bryanstein | first |
| 00:55.07 | Bryanstein | is it running now ? |
| 00:55.09 | KalvinManson | i dont speak english, only try |
| 00:55.26 | Bryanstein | well you are doing fine |
| 00:55.36 | Bryanstein | is the program running now ? |
| 00:55.43 | Bryanstein | that you want to add |
| 00:55.57 | KalvinManson | yes, is Quanta (Web designer |
| 00:56.14 | Bryanstein | oh Quanta..ok do you see an icon on the window? |
| 00:56.53 | Bryanstein | right click on the top of the window and see if it says modify icon or create icon |
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| 00:57.04 | KalvinManson | yes, but when I put this icon in the iBar the icon open the terminal |
| 00:57.29 | Bryanstein | try to drag the icon from the top of the window to the ibar |
| 00:57.35 | Bryanstein | just grab it and pull it down |
| 00:57.55 | Bryanstein | you also can use entangle to do it |
| 00:58.09 | KalvinManson | i duet this, but the icon in the ibar open the terminal, no the software |
| 00:58.38 | Bryanstein | ok...right click the bar at the top and choose modify icon |
| 00:58.41 | Theoden | Bryanstein |
| 00:58.52 | Bryanstein | then you have to make sure the path is correct to the file |
| 00:58.54 | Bryanstein | hey Theoden |
| 01:00.10 | KalvinManson | i dont andersten |
| 01:00.30 | Bryanstein | ok...hmmm |
| 01:00.40 | Bryanstein | KalvinManson, |
| 01:02.38 | Bryanstein | KalvinManson, you still there? |
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| 01:05.25 | Bryanstein | well |
| 01:09.22 | roxville | Bryanstein, ? |
| 01:21.49 | FossZombie | jonah1980, your download speed is half my upload speed lol |
| 01:21.59 | FossZombie | i feel sorry for you |
| 01:24.43 | jamesarthur | Bryanstein: ok, thanks , just to the right, not far right, not battery........... i'm in a "Virtualbox" right now checking this.... does Elive have a disk and folder encryption system? |
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| 01:39.43 | elmo43 | ~elmo40 |
| 01:39.44 | apt | from memory, elmo40 is a canuck of estonian descent, and the master of nick completion |
| 01:39.50 | elmo43 | ;) |
| 01:39.52 | elmo43 | evening blokes |
| 01:40.04 | elmo43 | ~seen thanatermesis |
| 01:40.07 | apt | thanatermesis is currently on #maemo, last said: 'mierda conexion...'. |
| 01:40.07 | diabetik | elmo43: thanatermesis was last seen in #elive 24 weeks, 0 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Thanatermesis> good night |
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| 01:42.15 | elmo43 | ok, so the installer 3.4-11 crashed... going to try the (current) version from the disk 3.3-13. |
| 01:42.29 | elmo43 | i have never had any problems with the 3.4, i wonder what happened |
| 01:42.39 | elmo43 | it just hung for over 2 hours!! |
| 01:44.29 | roxville | elmo43, i had a user today... the cd was getting bad |
| 01:44.45 | roxville | he reburned and chekced the cd... and it installed right away |
| 01:44.47 | elmo43 | getting bad? how does a cd get bad? |
| 01:45.07 | roxville | heat, sex and bad women |
| 01:45.17 | elmo43 | well, i do not have a copy of the .iso to burn another one :( |
| 01:45.35 | elmo43 | yeah, heat will do it ;) Too much friction, eh? Need the LUBE |
| 01:45.46 | roxville | exactly :) |
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| 01:46.45 | elmo43 | the 3.4 version of the installer is an upgrade from the repo. i always did the upgrade before i tried an install, and only messed up this one time. |
| 01:46.50 | elmo43 | so nothing big... |
| 01:47.00 | elmo43 | i wonder what the difference is between the two version anyways. |
| 01:49.54 | elmo43 | can i change over to the fglrx ATI driver after i installed Elive with the radeon driver? |
| 01:56.25 | Bryanstein | brb |
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| 02:06.49 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, hi i've downloaded the kernel and installed etc and all looks good. now when i try to install vmware it asks where the headers are.and when i put usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-elive it fails saying that it's expecting a "linux" sub dir... |
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| 02:07.03 | keyra | jonah1980: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 02:07.16 | jonah1980 | anyway i'm off to bed cos 3.05am |
| 02:08.57 | Bryanstein | hmm |
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| 02:09.52 | Bryanstein | what the heck |
| 02:10.20 | Bryanstein | roxville, |
| 02:10.28 | roxville | yes sir! |
| 02:10.39 | roxville | version 2.6.8 sir! |
| 02:10.44 | Bryanstein | can you send me a screenie of your xchat ho wit is |
| 02:10.47 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 02:10.57 | Bryanstein | well I needed to know that too lol |
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| 02:31.01 | FossZombie | jonah didn't read the doccumentation |
| 02:31.24 | FossZombie | if he comes back tell him to rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers* |
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| 02:42.10 | Elive_user5 | where is reboot? can't find it! |
| 02:42.41 | Bryanstein | Elive_user5, |
| 02:42.50 | Bryanstein | right click on the desktop |
| 02:42.53 | wuantanamero | :o |
| 02:42.55 | *** part/#elive wuantanamero (n=wuantana@200.52.177.71) |
| 02:42.57 | Bryanstein | then exit out... |
| 02:43.10 | Elive_user5 | thanks |
| 02:43.17 | Bryanstein | once the log in screen comes up....hold the mouse over the power button |
| 02:43.20 | Bryanstein | the round one |
| 02:43.28 | Bryanstein | and the reboot will come out of it |
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| 03:32.07 | Bryanstein | Bryanstein, |
| 03:32.12 | Bryanstein | arf |
| 03:34.16 | Bryanstein | roxville, |
| 03:36.35 | roxville | Bryanstein, |
| 03:39.50 | Bryanstein | oh there you are |
| 03:40.11 | Bryanstein | hmm my sound isn't working and I have all modules loaded |
| 03:40.17 | Bryanstein | send me a file |
| 03:40.27 | Bryanstein | an xchat fike |
| 03:40.32 | Bryanstein | file |
| 03:40.41 | Bryanstein | arg I need to install urxvt |
| 03:40.50 | Bryanstein | hopefully it will work |
| 03:41.17 | Bryanstein | roxville, my firefox works as root lol |
| 03:46.03 | roxville | good lord |
| 03:46.52 | Bryanstein | lol flock does as root too |
| 03:48.06 | Bryanstein | lol you didn't have anything smaller roxville |
| 03:48.30 | roxville | no, sorry |
| 03:48.51 | roxville | that's what my wife said too, the first time... |
| 03:49.24 | roxville | she doesn' |
| 03:49.27 | roxville | t |
| 03:49.38 | roxville | call me roxville anymore though |
| 03:50.09 | roxville | this is my fav version of this song... it's buddy miller |
| 03:52.50 | roxville | it's a good quality rip, man... i want you to have THE BEST! |
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| 03:54.54 | roxville | elmo43, ping |
| 03:56.10 | Bryanstein | LMAO but she doesnt call me roxville anymore |
| 03:56.28 | Bryanstein | I knew you would segway that into somethimng |
| 03:56.36 | roxville | lol |
| 03:56.42 | Bryanstein | I got my reiser mounted here |
| 03:56.51 | Bryanstein | can't find the elive sounds though |
| 03:56.52 | Bryanstein | hmmm |
| 03:57.00 | roxville | well... we met in a chat room, so... she knew me by my nick first... |
| 03:57.10 | Bryanstein | should be in usr/share/eliva-sounds |
| 03:57.38 | roxville | i dubt that |
| 03:57.49 | roxville | that's probably only the e16 sounds |
| 03:58.11 | Bryanstein | well there were sounds there though...and I think the elpanel sound was there too |
| 03:58.24 | Bryanstein | and the startup and shutdown sound lol |
| 03:58.28 | roxville | oh wow, they ARE there! |
| 03:58.30 | roxville | cool! |
| 04:01.34 | roxville | what the hell is this? "Underworld" |
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| 04:03.00 | Bryanstein | Underworld what? |
| 04:03.24 | roxville | it's a movie |
| 04:03.43 | Bryanstein | yes I know it is a movie |
| 04:03.51 | Bryanstein | but it just doesn't pop up |
| 04:03.52 | Theoden | http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb48/madill48/?action=view¤t=halloween1.png |
| 04:05.46 | Theoden | Archlinux 2007.08.1 (Don't Panic) SysInfo: Linux 2.6.22-ARCH | Pentium III (Coppermine) 996.722 MHz | Bogomips: 1995.7 | Mem: 388/504M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 10.82G Free: 1.57G | Procs: 79 | Uptime: 20 mins 49 secs | Load: 0.67 0.74 0.63 | Vpenis: 5700 cm | Screen: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2) @ 1600x1200 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 59.82M Out: 2.95M |
| 04:05.59 | roxville | werewolves and shit... |
| 04:06.29 | roxville | Theoden, your Vpenis has not grown since the last time i saw it... |
| 04:06.49 | Theoden | roxville: It doesn't need to. :-D |
| 04:07.03 | roxville | hehe, you are so right :) |
| 04:07.10 | Theoden | haha |
| 04:08.33 | roxville | i know i made it, but... the new startup sound... i really like it... |
| 04:10.44 | roxville | would be cool to code it in 5.1 |
| 04:11.21 | roxville | not many have a system like that, but...it would be cool to really blow them away...the ones that do |
| 04:14.55 | Bryanstein | ha |
| 04:14.57 | Bryanstein | Bryanstein, |
| 04:15.01 | Bryanstein | say my name roxville |
| 04:15.34 | roxville | but your name is not roxville |
| 04:15.40 | Bryanstein | no silly |
| 04:15.44 | roxville | Bryanstein, |
| 04:15.47 | Bryanstein | ha |
| 04:15.50 | Bryanstein | ok |
| 04:15.57 | roxville | Bryanstein, |
| 04:15.59 | Bryanstein | just verifying my sound is enabled |
| 04:16.01 | Bryanstein | lol ok |
| 04:16.25 | Bryanstein | now I can trim out the other modules and just load my puny sound module |
| 04:16.43 | Bryanstein | lol but not in e |
| 04:16.45 | Bryanstein | hmmm |
| 04:17.06 | Bryanstein | I'll install urxvt in an another terminal |
| 04:23.26 | roxville | Theoden, i had to counter with something... |
| 04:23.29 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/tattoo-screenie1.jpg |
| 04:29.09 | roxville | i bet you do :) |
| 04:29.42 | Bryanstein | brb |
| 04:29.46 | roxville | i did a google image search for tattoo |
| 04:31.05 | roxville | http://www.sompystyle.com/gr_tattoo.html |
| 04:48.40 | roxville | ok... did he get it... or did he get pissed off? |
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| 04:54.31 | roxville | wb Bryanstein |
| 04:54.44 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/tattoo-screenie2.jpg |
| 04:54.52 | roxville | i think i pissed theoden off |
| 04:55.01 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/tattoo-screenie3.jpg |
| 04:55.01 | Bryanstein | how roxville |
| 04:55.14 | roxville | coz i'm breaking into his territory |
| 04:55.19 | roxville | :) |
| 04:55.30 | roxville | look at the pics and you'll understand |
| 04:57.21 | Bryanstein | those are some Theoden style shots |
| 04:57.25 | Bryanstein | man looks nice |
| 04:58.01 | Bryanstein | roxville, gimme a stream to play |
| 04:58.08 | Bryanstein | a stream url |
| 04:58.19 | Bryanstein | lol nevermind |
| 04:58.28 | Bryanstein | I'll find one real quick |
| 05:00.47 | roxville | i gotta get in bed |
| 05:01.23 | roxville | Bryanstein, http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/MVI_3253.AVI |
| 05:02.34 | Bryanstein | http://flamenco.timsradio.com/playlist.pls |
| 05:02.42 | Bryanstein | open that and tell me what is in it |
| 05:04.46 | roxville | File1=http://flamencoradio.net:8100 |
| 05:04.46 | roxville | Title1=Tim's Radio - flamencoradio.net |
| 05:05.05 | roxville | have fun, bud :) |
| 05:05.11 | roxville | good night |
| 05:05.18 | Bryanstein | I got it in vlc roxville |
| 05:05.29 | Bryanstein | later...just remembered I installed it |
| 05:05.30 | roxville | cool! |
| 05:05.34 | roxville | hehe |
| 05:06.28 | Bryanstein | gnight roxville |
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| 05:43.57 | FossZombie | Stephen Colbert is running for president, he just announced!!!! |
| 05:44.29 | FossZombie | Everyone register to vote if you are in the us and have not!!! vote for him! |
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| 09:45.39 | kentin | hi |
| 09:46.57 | Elive_user74 | hi! :) |
| 09:50.07 | kentin | where I can find the md5 of the last elive version to verify the integrity of my iso ? |
| 09:50.21 | keyra | kentin: download the development version from http://elivecd.org |
| 09:51.34 | kentin | I ask you because Xorg don't work on live session :s |
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| 10:25.35 | jonah1980 | dudes we've got a new kernel!! is it safe or does it break nvidia? |
| 10:26.08 | wasynyt | test it.. |
| 10:26.17 | wasynyt | but you could also ask thana |
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| 11:02.30 | wasynyt | good afternoon people |
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| 11:09.22 | Elive_user74 | well done!! now my box is tuned! I solved the wifi problems! I think i'll do a backup of my disk :) |
| 11:09.40 | wasynyt | i recomend that |
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| 11:12.19 | Elive_user74 | one question... is it normal that i must save stuff like themes in the /usr/share/... path |
| 11:13.23 | Elive_user74 | i was trying to save'em in my home path! where am i wrong? |
| 11:18.37 | roxville | Elive_user74, e17 themes that you install, can be saved in /home/Elive_user74/.e/e/themes |
| 11:18.51 | keyra | roxville: "apt-cache search e17 theme" and "apt-get install packagename" to install it |
| 11:20.58 | Elive_user74 | ok if I install them with apt-get they finish in /usr/share/... and it's ok i think. But if I download or create a new one? |
| 11:22.27 | roxville | oh, yes, that is correct... the ones you install from the repo land in /usr/share |
| 11:22.55 | roxville | if you create a new one it goes where i said first |
| 11:23.17 | roxville | also, your homemade backgrounds go in the .e dir |
| 11:23.18 | Elive_user74 | I tried to save one in /home/<username>/.e/e/... but from the config i cannot see them |
| 11:23.41 | roxville | yes... a theme or a background? |
| 11:23.56 | Elive_user74 | a theme |
| 11:24.09 | Elive_user74 | and backgrounds too |
| 11:24.38 | roxville | this is because the version of e17 that theme is made for, is newer than the e17 you are using right now |
| 11:24.49 | roxville | the versions are incompatiable |
| 11:24.58 | Elive_user74 | mmmhhh |
| 11:25.43 | roxville | i can not do anything about the themes atm, but one of our users converted some animated backgrounds to the elive version, if you wanna try |
| 11:25.45 | Elive_user74 | but I'm afraid to apt-get upgrade |
| 11:25.55 | roxville | it's a pack of...6 of 'em, i think |
| 11:26.09 | roxville | why are you afraid to upgrade? |
| 11:26.34 | roxville | lol, the e17 version will not be changed |
| 11:26.49 | roxville | i promise |
| 11:26.54 | Elive_user74 | because last time i've done it there had been problems in grub |
| 11:27.41 | roxville | and you have elive properly installed with nice looking boot screen and all? |
| 11:29.07 | Elive_user74 | yes! now that I have reinstalled... for this reason i-m going to backup the disk :) |
| 11:29.24 | roxville | hehe, ok |
| 11:29.40 | roxville | well then i do not see why you would not be able to upgrade |
| 11:30.42 | Elive_user74 | yes I will do it... and so u tell me that after an upgrade those themes I download will work? |
| 11:30.55 | roxville | no |
| 11:31.09 | Elive_user74 | ah ok |
| 11:31.34 | roxville | they won't work until 1. the next development iso of elive |
| 11:31.48 | roxville | 2. if you try the e17 in elive's test repo |
| 11:32.02 | keyra | roxville: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 11:33.36 | Elive_user74 | ok. So I tell u... I think it'll be better not to try these things just for a theme :)! |
| 11:33.54 | roxville | if you are worried about grub you can update the brub menu after upgrading. just run update-grub as root |
| 11:34.25 | wasynyt | good afternoon roxville |
| 11:34.30 | wasynyt | and Elive_user74 |
| 11:34.41 | roxville | hey wasynyt :) |
| 11:34.53 | Elive_user74 | hi! |
| 11:34.57 | wasynyt | :D |
| 11:35.02 | roxville | and here...it is very much morning |
| 11:35.03 | wasynyt | how are you people doing |
| 11:35.13 | wasynyt | heh |
| 11:36.27 | Elive_user74 | me... is annoying roxville with my questions an he is helping me :D |
| 11:36.43 | wasynyt | hmm.. |
| 11:36.44 | wasynyt | i wonder |
| 11:36.50 | roxville | wasynyt, i made a couple of theoden-style screenshots last night... and he left... |
| 11:36.53 | roxville | go figure... |
| 11:37.27 | wasynyt | Theoden style |
| 11:37.58 | wasynyt | ? |
| 11:38.00 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/tattoo-screenie2.jpg |
| 11:38.09 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/tattoo-screenie3.jpg |
| 11:38.12 | roxville | :) |
| 11:38.34 | PetoKraus | roxville, what's that theme you're using, rox |
| 11:38.42 | roxville | theoden style means... with girls in various stages of undressed-ness :) |
| 11:38.52 | PetoKraus | it'd fit perfectly in my desktop... |
| 11:38.57 | roxville | PetoKraus, home made ones :) |
| 11:39.26 | wasynyt | heh |
| 11:39.29 | PetoKraus | can you... distribute the one in screenie2? |
| 11:39.36 | PetoKraus | i am using the night bling |
| 11:39.46 | PetoKraus | but the borders just arent as cool as i'd want them |
| 11:39.49 | roxville | PetoKraus, you like the dark one? |
| 11:39.54 | PetoKraus | y |
| 11:39.58 | roxville | are you using e17 from tests? |
| 11:40.02 | PetoKraus | y |
| 11:40.08 | roxville | ok |
| 11:40.09 | PetoKraus | http://tarantula.valec.net/~pk/index.php?switch=fotky&top=pick&fotka=1&max=13&dir=screenshot |
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| 11:41.07 | PetoKraus | godness, DCC works for me, what the hell happened to the world? |
| 11:41.17 | PetoKraus | thanks! |
| 11:41.33 | roxville | PetoKraus, i tried to make a transp one first... but i think i'll call it "Graphiti"... |
| 11:41.40 | PetoKraus | :D |
| 11:41.41 | roxville | if it ever gets finished |
| 11:42.12 | roxville | PetoKraus, a lot of stuff in this theme is still the camo theme... |
| 11:42.23 | roxville | hehe |
| 11:44.35 | roxville | PetoKraus, you wanna try the camo theme too? |
| 11:44.44 | roxville | it is almost finished |
| 11:44.56 | PetoKraus | i have that one |
| 11:45.05 | roxville | camo as in "Camouflage" |
| 11:45.35 | roxville | i doubt it... a lot of stuff have been fixed/altered since you tried it |
| 11:46.02 | roxville | unless you have taken it from mathmanp's dir |
| 11:46.38 | PetoKraus | i have that one, both, maybe older versions |
| 11:46.58 | roxville | ok |
| 11:47.01 | PetoKraus | the border is EXACTLY what I needed |
| 11:47.21 | roxville | hehe ok |
| 11:47.38 | roxville | maybe i'll try to get mathmanp to help me finish it, then :) |
| 11:50.38 | PetoKraus | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/camo-screenshot.jpg -> looks VERY nice |
| 11:51.43 | PetoKraus | heh and the entrance theme, fine one too |
| 11:52.29 | roxville | entrance theme? |
| 11:52.47 | PetoKraus | y |
| 11:52.56 | PetoKraus | console entrance |
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| 11:53.09 | roxville | oh yeah.... |
| 11:53.25 | roxville | the last time i reinstalled... i lost all that |
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| 11:53.35 | roxville | man i worked hard on that one... |
| 11:54.14 | roxville | PetoKraus, http://uploaded.elivecd.org/mathmanp/recent/ |
| 11:54.26 | roxville | this is where you look for updates to the camo theme |
| 11:54.33 | roxville | the clock bg is nice, too |
| 11:55.24 | PetoKraus | i use the camo clocks |
| 11:55.40 | PetoKraus | i favour them most by far |
| 11:56.29 | roxville | me too :) |
| 11:59.16 | roxville | the camo clock bg ROCKS |
| 12:00.32 | PetoKraus | i'd like to know what that french partmsg meant in english |
| 12:02.54 | roxville | hehe |
| 12:03.02 | wasynyt | apt x fr en Avec windows XP on était au bord du gouffre, avec Vista on a fait un grand pas en avant... |
| 12:03.17 | roxville | LOL |
| 12:03.21 | roxville | good one! |
| 12:03.34 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 12:03.37 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:09.53 | roxville | wasynyt, where ya going? |
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| 13:00.06 | wasynyt | back |
| 13:04.58 | wasynyt | and there are nobody active :/ |
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| 13:06.15 | wasynyt | good afternoon vipeltaejae |
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| 14:01.35 | Elive_user82 | hi all |
| 14:01.55 | Elive_user82 | where can we get elive installer disk? |
| 14:02.06 | Elive_user82 | is it for free? is there any of that? |
| 14:02.09 | keyra | Elive_user82: you don't know how install Elive ? honey... is not that hard... |
| 14:02.34 | Elive_user82 | heheh i have only demo cd i downloaded from the net |
| 14:03.09 | Elive_user82 | i cant fine the full software? :-( |
| 14:03.21 | wasynyt | demo cd ? |
| 14:03.52 | Elive_user82 | yup i am using it now |
| 14:04.06 | wasynyt | where did you download it |
| 14:04.26 | Elive_user82 | there is no option of install elive to disk just only selecting which elive black or clear |
| 14:04.40 | Elive_user82 | hhmm i guess it was from torrent site |
| 14:04.45 | wasynyt | and then you get a desktop |
| 14:04.48 | Elive_user82 | it was 700 mb i guess |
| 14:04.51 | wasynyt | k |
| 14:04.53 | Elive_user82 | yup |
| 14:05.11 | Elive_user82 | its give me eliveuser and password elive |
| 14:05.31 | wasynyt | there is a button in lower bar that is for installer.. if remember correctly it is in right edge |
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| 14:12.19 | Elive_user70 | hello again |
| 14:12.27 | Elive_user70 | heheh sorry i was disconnected |
| 14:12.51 | Elive_user70 | i'm new to linux really |
| 14:12.52 | wasynyt | heh |
| 14:13.14 | Elive_user70 | one blank window then my system hangs |
| 14:13.47 | Elive_user70 | soo this cd i have right now is only demo version which is i can only run it on cd rom |
| 14:14.17 | Elive_user70 | hmm any idea where i can find the elive installer from the net? |
| 14:14.56 | Elive_user70 | there no option on this which i can modify like dekstop, screen saver, and window behaviurs |
| 14:15.56 | wasynyt | elivecd.org |
| 14:16.05 | wasynyt | elpanel is the one for configuring |
| 14:16.11 | wasynyt | now some gaiming |
| 14:16.18 | Elive_user70 | hhmm is that installable to hdd? |
| 14:16.25 | wasynyt | yes |
| 14:16.42 | Elive_user70 | hhmm ill try to download it tonight heheh |
| 14:16.55 | Elive_user70 | but those is run with compix? or berly? |
| 14:17.35 | Elive_user70 | i have downloaded pclinuxos and sabayon it works with compiz... |
| 14:17.55 | Elive_user70 | elive has option with compiz or berly? |
| 14:19.07 | Elive_user70 | hehe sorry i do realy ask to much qiustions hehe |
| 14:19.43 | Elive_user70 | i'm running elive on my cd run only right now though its kind of slow |
| 14:20.05 | wasynyt | heh |
| 14:20.13 | wasynyt | no compiz or anything similiar |
| 14:20.22 | Elive_user70 | how long have you been working with linux? |
| 14:20.33 | wasynyt | few years i guess |
| 14:20.47 | Elive_user70 | hhmmm you mean that it does not work with those compiz stuff? |
| 14:20.59 | Elive_user70 | cool |
| 14:21.11 | Elive_user70 | me only few months |
| 14:21.53 | wasynyt | nope.. no compiz stuff as default.. there is a hard way but i am not sure if i would rocomend it to anyone |
| 14:21.59 | wasynyt | still learning |
| 14:22.24 | Elive_user70 | i'm telling my friends to use linux but heheh there not intrested but anyway i showed them sabayon with compiz and they saw it the like it for few mins and hehe then thats it |
| 14:22.37 | Elive_user70 | ah ok |
| 14:22.47 | Elive_user70 | better stick to defualt stuff huh? |
| 14:23.00 | Elive_user70 | whats on this elive anyway? |
| 14:23.26 | wasynyt | enlightenment |
| 14:23.47 | wasynyt | -> goes to play |
| 14:24.00 | Elive_user70 | hhmmm like multi movie stuff |
| 14:24.08 | Elive_user70 | eheheh ah ok |
| 14:24.40 | Elive_user70 | does it has open office stuff like other linux? |
| 14:25.10 | Elive_user70 | or we have to install it again which is to much complecated for newbee like me |
| 14:26.56 | Elive_user70 | do they have patches or any updates avalable on there site? |
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| 14:32.26 | wasynyt | no updates on the site.. all is done in apt-get / synaptic |
| 14:32.51 | wasynyt | as root apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 14:32.55 | wasynyt | and installing |
| 14:33.08 | Elive_user70 | ah ok |
| 14:33.13 | wasynyt | as root apt-get update && apt-get install package |
| 14:33.23 | wasynyt | and one can use gui if one wants to |
| 14:33.27 | Elive_user70 | i went to the site but it ask me credit card hehehe |
| 14:33.31 | wasynyt | as root synaptic |
| 14:33.45 | wasynyt | nah you can download the development version for free |
| 14:33.48 | Elive_user70 | hhhmm whats qui? |
| 14:33.57 | Elive_user70 | heheh ah ok |
| 14:34.10 | Elive_user70 | but bugs should be there huh? |
| 14:34.17 | wasynyt | graphical user interface |
| 14:34.36 | wasynyt | nah all software contains bugs |
| 14:34.36 | Elive_user70 | heheh ah ok now i got it hehe thanks |
| 14:34.51 | Elive_user70 | i guess soo |
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| 14:35.47 | Elive_user70 | got so much to ask you but hehe i'm in the office really my manager was at my back and ask what i was doin hehehe |
| 14:36.01 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:36.06 | wasynyt | i will back in a sec |
| 14:36.11 | Elive_user70 | anyway i'll be often here and i hope i can chat with you sooner |
| 14:36.18 | Elive_user70 | thanks dude... |
| 14:36.21 | Elive_user70 | bye |
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| 14:51.43 | Elive_user74 | hi there |
| 14:53.08 | Elive_user74 | someone tried cpufreqd or powernowd? which is better? |
| 14:53.44 | wasynyt | isnt the powernowd for amd and cpufreqd intel ? |
| 14:54.04 | Elive_user74 | no... i don't think so |
| 14:54.27 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 14:55.15 | Elive_user74 | in the specs of the package they say u can use powernowd on both |
| 15:12.16 | wasynyt | hmm then you should try and which one works |
| 15:20.33 | Elive_user74 | well |
| 15:21.49 | Elive_user74 | i will try powernowd... |
| 15:22.13 | Elive_user74 | do the kernel in elive support cpufreq scaling? |
| 15:24.46 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:26.50 | wasynyt | good evening LinuxNIT |
| 15:27.50 | LinuxNIT | hey wasn |
| 15:28.14 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, |
| 15:28.24 | LinuxNIT | brb |
| 15:28.25 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 15:29.27 | LinuxNIT | back |
| 15:29.40 | wasynyt | how are you doing |
| 15:30.00 | LinuxNIT | excellent |
| 15:30.03 | LinuxNIT | and yourself? |
| 15:30.19 | wasynyt | quite good |
| 15:32.53 | LinuxNIT | were you the one looking for wifi-wiz that didnt rely on ifup? |
| 15:34.22 | wasynyt | hmm nope.. but there has been few persons trying to get their wifi working |
| 15:34.33 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 15:35.08 | LinuxNIT | driver trouble or configuration trouble? |
| 15:35.53 | wasynyt | driver i guess.. he had an intel ipw3945 wireless that would not load itself |
| 15:35.56 | wasynyt | :S |
| 15:36.11 | LinuxNIT | i think thats is cause the firmware is not included |
| 15:36.21 | LinuxNIT | you have to go get the firmware for that driver |
| 15:36.49 | wasynyt | ahh that was it |
| 15:39.05 | LinuxNIT | apt seen princeamd |
| 15:39.09 | apt | princeamd <n=PrinceAM@9-61-pool.dsl.gol.net.gy> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 17d 8h 53m 50s ago, saying: 'LinuxNIT, p'. |
| 15:39.14 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 15:39.23 | LinuxNIT | thats a long time |
| 15:39.43 | wasynyt | heh |
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| 15:59.27 | Elive_user65 | lolehallo |
| 15:59.38 | LinuxNIT | hello Elive_user65 |
| 15:59.52 | Arv3n | reinstalling >.> |
| 16:00.41 | Arv3n | linuxnit, hai! |
| 16:00.55 | Arv3n | what do you think about upgrading to sid? |
| 16:01.01 | Arv3n | last time i did lenny. |
| 16:01.19 | LinuxNIT | i think if you do then you need to use the apt list bugs application |
| 16:01.35 | Arv3n | well. |
| 16:01.43 | Arv3n | since e17 isnt in the sid repos, id think it would just be core apps. |
| 16:01.44 | LinuxNIT | i have no idea how elive reacts with an upgrade to sid.... nor do i know how stable/unstable sid is at the moment |
| 16:02.02 | Arv3n | so you just use stable? =P |
| 16:02.09 | LinuxNIT | at the moment yes |
| 16:02.15 | Arv3n | so boring *snore* |
| 16:02.16 | LinuxNIT | dont have time to play much |
| 16:02.20 | Arv3n | true dat. |
| 16:02.26 | Arv3n | 10 hours a day at school. ~_~ |
| 16:02.48 | Arv3n | aren't you a dad? |
| 16:02.52 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 16:02.53 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 16:02.57 | LinuxNIT | im not even married yet |
| 16:02.59 | Arv3n | oh, i thought you said you had a son. |
| 16:03.00 | wasynyt | back |
| 16:03.03 | LinuxNIT | but that will change soon |
| 16:03.07 | LinuxNIT | nope |
| 16:03.07 | Arv3n | someone did. |
| 16:03.13 | LinuxNIT | about me/ |
| 16:03.14 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 16:03.19 | Arv3n | or daughter, it was his/her first day of school. |
| 16:03.27 | LinuxNIT | roxville, has a daughter |
| 16:03.27 | wasynyt | rox has a daughter |
| 16:03.28 | Arv3n | no, the person was talking about themselves. |
| 16:03.30 | Arv3n | YES |
| 16:03.33 | Arv3n | *YEAH |
| 16:03.34 | Arv3n | thats him. |
| 16:03.37 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 16:03.39 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:03.41 | Arv3n | sorry, not many ppls here. |
| 16:03.50 | Arv3n | i should know better. =_= |
| 16:03.51 | wasynyt | quite a lot actually |
| 16:03.57 | Arv3n | well. |
| 16:04.06 | Arv3n | sabayon linux has more, and sabayon is nasty. =/ |
| 16:04.10 | Theoden | Morning all - (at least out here) |
| 16:04.11 | Theoden | :-) |
| 16:04.15 | Arv3n | gud morning |
| 16:04.16 | LinuxNIT | morning |
| 16:04.19 | Arv3n | i got to stay home today |
| 16:04.24 | wasynyt | good evening |
| 16:04.29 | Arv3n | lol |
| 16:05.41 | Arv3n | hm. |
| 16:05.50 | Arv3n | think ill just stay stable |
| 16:06.07 | wasynyt | stable is nice |
| 16:06.13 | Arv3n | so when is the next release of elive due out? |
| 16:06.24 | wasynyt | when it is ready |
| 16:06.28 | LinuxNIT | actually come to think of it i have lenny on a partition... but i use it so rarely i forgot lol |
| 16:06.35 | Arv3n | well there hasnt been any news on it. |
| 16:06.45 | Arv3n | lenny is boring toof. |
| 16:06.47 | Arv3n | sidux is fun. |
| 16:06.52 | wasynyt | well thana is back and working |
| 16:06.53 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 16:06.55 | Arv3n | lenny is fun on like elive or something. |
| 16:07.10 | Arv3n | pure debian sid is kul. |
| 16:07.42 | Arv3n | ok reboot. >= O |
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| 16:09.53 | Arv3n | i have arrived. |
| 16:10.09 | LinuxNIT | wb |
| 16:10.13 | Arv3n | ty. |
| 16:12.05 | Arv3n | 'tis a shame i bought linspire. =/ |
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| 16:19.04 | Arv3n | ? |
| 16:19.07 | Arv3n | latest = 2.6.23 |
| 16:19.17 | Arv3n | actually i think its still in unstable or testing |
| 16:19.41 | Arv3n | lole vpenis |
| 16:20.04 | Theoden | http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb48/madill48/?action=view¤t=halloween1.png |
| 16:20.17 | Theoden | E17 is badass |
| 16:20.19 | Theoden | :-) |
| 16:20.56 | Arv3n | noice |
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| 20:05.23 | Jonah | FossZombie, hi i installed the new kernel that thana has added to the repo but now x won't start, has he not updated nvidia also? |
| 20:08.10 | FossZombie | Jonah, hey |
| 20:08.31 | Jonah | FossZombie, hey man how's things, i'm here once again bugging you! |
| 20:08.40 | FossZombie | last night you asked about my kernel, in the readme didn't it say to delete the /usr/src/kernel-headers* , just use the kernel-source |
| 20:08.57 | FossZombie | kernel-source is the original location of the headers, kernel-headers is just a stripped kernel-source |
| 20:09.03 | FossZombie | so you can always use kenrel-source |
| 20:09.34 | FossZombie | and about the "new kernel" I'll have to check. I have not been able to even use elive since last night |
| 20:09.49 | Jonah | FossZombie, ah i see thanks |
| 20:10.13 | FossZombie | maybe you are apt-get upgrading to the previous kernel? |
| 20:10.15 | Jonah | FossZombie, i'm glad you're online maybe you can help me out to finally put an end to all these issues |
| 20:10.21 | FossZombie | what's the version on it? |
| 20:10.33 | Jonah | i did an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:10.47 | FossZombie | oh..... |
| 20:11.14 | FossZombie | are you using "tests" repo? |
| 20:11.15 | wasynyt | good evening people |
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| 20:11.27 | FossZombie | not a reccomendation just a question. |
| 20:11.27 | Jonah | and it overwrote your new kernel with one he must have done... and there was also a new nvidia-glx, but i don't think i use that not sure, i just use normal nvidia... |
| 20:11.29 | keyra | FossZombie: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 20:11.52 | Jonah | FossZombie, yeah got tests enable as i set up with the new e17 dock |
| 20:12.29 | FossZombie | we're not in kansas anymore |
| 20:12.50 | liquidfunk | Can anyone help me with my screen resolution? |
| 20:13.06 | FossZombie | liquidfunk, what's the problem |
| 20:13.19 | FossZombie | su |
| 20:13.28 | FossZombie | nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 20:13.39 | FossZombie | scroll....... |
| 20:13.45 | FossZombie | "#x#" |
| 20:13.49 | liquidfunk | I'm using an Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 VGA 64mb card. I cannot get my native resolution of 1280 x 1024 |
| 20:14.02 | FossZombie | ahh |
| 20:14.02 | liquidfunk | Stuck on 1024 x 768 |
| 20:14.09 | FossZombie | those cards have refresh rate/reso problems |
| 20:14.29 | Jonah | FossZombie, so i tried the usual putting nv instead of putting nvidia and viceversa but either doesn't work or out of range on monitor. was ok with your new kernel and nvidia driver from yesterday until thana's kernel appeared and that's busted it again |
| 20:14.47 | liquidfunk | Which suggests that I'm buggered? |
| 20:15.00 | FossZombie | I'd just revert to my kernel and nvidia if I were you, Jonah |
| 20:15.20 | FossZombie | liquidfunk, which means google is your friend..... let me see if I can figure something out. |
| 20:16.12 | liquidfunk | Hm. I shall try that. The Elive Forums aren't overly helpful. I shall post on the *buntu forums. Chances are slim though. |
| 20:16.20 | Jonah | FossZombie, thats a good idea but i still couldn't get vmware or my wifi driver to install with that... also wouldn't it mean i can't update from repos or it's always gonna break? also i'm stuck at a terminal again... |
| 20:16.29 | FossZombie | your refresh rate should be about 85 for the resolution liquidfunk |
| 20:16.45 | FossZombie | liquidfunk, are you on elive or ubuntu? |
| 20:16.49 | liquidfunk | Elive |
| 20:16.52 | FossZombie | we don't post cross distro |
| 20:16.59 | FossZombie | try to find a x forums or nvidia forums instead |
| 20:17.04 | liquidfunk | Just switched from 7.10 Beta. |
| 20:17.35 | FossZombie | Jonah, you can't install if you don't install correctly |
| 20:17.56 | FossZombie | Jonah, those programs were looking at the headers for the wrong kernel you need to basicly REMOVE/DELETE the old shit, then install my kernel |
| 20:18.17 | FossZombie | delete the old sources, headers, then install my kernel, make sure you use my kernel-source |
| 20:18.42 | FossZombie | Jonah, with my kernel I installed both nvidia and vmware and even compiled your wifi driver against it. |
| 20:18.53 | FossZombie | though I didn't make a deb package for it. |
| 20:18.54 | Jonah | FossZombie, ok that's cool, can i do all that with the prompt i'm at now, cos i can't get into X. would you be able to tell me how to re-download, extract and run your script all from the terminal |
| 20:19.14 | FossZombie | you deleted it? damn |
| 20:19.32 | FossZombie | it takes forever for you to download it from my system and I've got other people using this connection |
| 20:19.42 | Jonah | FossZombie, i think i did after it was working again. although it could be still somewhere or in trash |
| 20:19.57 | Jonah | sorry man |
| 20:20.30 | Jonah | FossZombie, i still have it |
| 20:20.35 | FossZombie | ok thats good |
| 20:20.40 | Jonah | i just cd Desktop and then i put Dir and it's there |
| 20:20.44 | FossZombie | do you know how to set up ssh |
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| 20:21.13 | FossZombie | it would be easier for me to just do it since you keep having problems |
| 20:21.26 | FossZombie | if you can set up ssh you can let me take control of the box |
| 20:21.26 | Jonah | ssh, is that what's used for people to hack your system? way cool! hehe |
| 20:21.38 | Jonah | i've no idea how to do it |
| 20:21.48 | FossZombie | ssh allows people to connect from a remote terminal |
| 20:22.21 | Jonah | FossZombie, wow that's great, it's like on the movies.. can you hack banks and stuff (not that you would of course being nice and all) |
| 20:22.36 | FossZombie | um... |
| 20:22.40 | FossZombie | it's just a tool |
| 20:22.44 | FossZombie | a very secure one |
| 20:22.49 | FossZombie | it's just a method of communication |
| 20:23.46 | Jonah | sounds cool, well i can if you like or can run your script now i've found it |
| 20:24.52 | Jonah | i cd to the folder and put ./Install-Nvidia-Kernel.sh and it just says unable to execute, no such file or dir - but it's there i can see it |
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| 20:25.51 | wasynyt | sh ..... |
| 20:25.56 | bentejuy | hi all! |
| 20:26.29 | wasynyt | good night people |
| 20:26.46 | bentejuy | good night wasynyt! |
| 20:27.01 | FossZombie | Jonah, try this, su |
| 20:27.12 | FossZombie | rm -rf /usr/src/linux-* |
| 20:27.21 | FossZombie | then install my kernel |
| 20:27.31 | FossZombie | it should work. |
| 20:27.45 | FossZombie | if it doesn't then I'll have you set up ssh server so I can ssh into your machine and take control |
| 20:27.46 | Jonah | FossZombie, ok cool i'll try it |
| 20:27.59 | Jonah | wow like the movies, ok will try that first then |
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| 20:30.13 | Jonah | FossZombie, no i can't seem to run the .sh file, what is the corrent phrasing - i've just been trying ./Install-Nvidia-Kernel.sh |
| 20:32.27 | FossZombie | the whole "just like the movies" thing always gets me. Never was a movie where real hacking was displayed. The media/movies even perverts the word hack. |
| 20:33.11 | FossZombie | if you let somone take control of your system, it's called remote assistance, or remote terminal, or remote administration. |
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| 20:33.34 | Jonah | FossZombie, hehe yeah just kidding around really - i just think it's really cool what you guys can do - i know the movies is wrong and all, they always have some weird fancy gui thing with zooming maps and stuff on haha |
| 20:34.26 | Jonah | FossZombie, ok shall we try this ssh stuff instead then? |
| 20:34.44 | FossZombie | openssh comes from the openbsd project. we use it quite a bit. No server would be complete without it. Almost every network operating system has remote admin, even windows. |
| 20:35.02 | FossZombie | well, did you try installing the kernel again after issuing that command? |
| 20:35.21 | Jonah | i tried the .sh script, but it wouldn't work |
| 20:35.28 | Jonah | shall i try the debs instead? |
| 20:35.41 | Jonah | dkpg them? |
| 20:35.53 | FossZombie | try this |
| 20:35.54 | FossZombie | su |
| 20:36.02 | Jonah | ok |
| 20:36.07 | FossZombie | sh scriptname.sh |
| 20:36.56 | Jonah | oh yeah, that's doing it! oh no errors. No such file or dir line 5: cd /usr/src/ |
| 20:37.16 | FossZombie | see the problem is, to set up ssh, if you have a router, you must go to portforward.com and try to figure out how to make your router work with the port |
| 20:37.32 | FossZombie | =) |
| 20:38.18 | FossZombie | just make sure you rm -rf /usr/src/linux-header* |
| 20:39.20 | Jonah | ok but stil got the line 5 error |
| 20:40.15 | FossZombie | shit i gotta test something then |
| 20:40.20 | FossZombie | its going to take me quite a while |
| 20:41.12 | Jonah | FossZombie, it's ok i'll just use dpkg instead and put the debs in |
| 20:41.43 | FossZombie | ok use dpkg -i to isntall the debs |
| 20:42.05 | Jonah | ok done that cool |
| 20:42.07 | FossZombie | then the kernel source needs to be extracted to /usr/src/ so that your vmware can compile against it |
| 20:43.10 | FossZombie | this is EXACTLY what the script does |
| 20:43.21 | FossZombie | dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.18-elive_3.0_i386.deb |
| 20:43.21 | FossZombie | dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-elive_1.0.8776-4+3.0_i386.deb |
| 20:43.21 | FossZombie | cp Linux-Source-2.6.18-elive_Fixed.tar.gz /usr/src/Linux-Source-2.6.18-elive_Fixed.tar.gz |
| 20:43.21 | FossZombie | cd /usr/src/ |
| 20:43.21 | FossZombie | tar -xvzf Linux-Source-2.6.18-elive_Fixed.tar.gz |
| 20:43.28 | Jonah | ok |
| 20:43.48 | FossZombie | just copy the tar.gz to /usr/src, then cd to /usr/src/ then extract |
| 20:44.31 | FossZombie | Maybe you could also have the symlink problem that's been going around |
| 20:44.41 | FossZombie | some peoples /usr/src is broken |
| 20:44.46 | FossZombie | for some reason |
| 20:44.54 | FossZombie | they need to actually totally obliterate it and start over |
| 20:44.56 | Jonah | FossZombie, sorry so what's first |
| 20:45.16 | FossZombie | they did a rm -rf /usr/src and then mkdir /usr/src then started over |
| 20:45.59 | FossZombie | what's first?, first would be dpkg -i * |
| 20:46.12 | FossZombie | then copy the source and extract it you should be done it's that easy |
| 20:46.13 | Jonah | ok so i'm in the folder Elive_Kernel_Fixed and i've installed the two debs |
| 20:46.33 | Jonah | it's the copying the source bit, how should i go about that? |
| 20:46.55 | Jonah | also should i delete the usr/src as you say to fix the symlink thing |
| 20:47.27 | FossZombie | you probably don't need to |
| 20:47.39 | FossZombie | just copy the source over and then cd /usr/src/ |
| 20:47.46 | FossZombie | then tar -xvzf Linux-Source-2.6.18-elive_Fixed.tar.gz |
| 20:47.49 | FossZombie | see if that works |
| 20:47.56 | Jonah | how do i copy it though, with the command copy? |
| 20:48.03 | FossZombie | cp is the copy command |
| 20:48.07 | Jonah | ok cool thanks |
| 20:48.16 | FossZombie | cp name /path/to/location/name |
| 20:48.21 | FossZombie | that's the syntax |
| 20:48.28 | Jonah | thanks a lot cool |
| 20:48.46 | FossZombie | if you type cp Lin (and then hit the tab button, it should complete the file name for you) |
| 20:48.50 | FossZombie | then space |
| 20:49.11 | Jonah | wow that is a handy trick wow |
| 20:49.12 | Jonah | cool |
| 20:49.23 | FossZombie | then where it goes |
| 20:49.26 | Jonah | that's so good |
| 20:49.38 | FossZombie | now you are starting to learn why we like the terminal |
| 20:49.44 | Jonah | hehe yeah |
| 20:50.10 | FossZombie | a good linux user knows his terminal like his/her best friend |
| 20:50.23 | FossZombie | the terminal isn't scairy, its just powerful |
| 20:51.28 | Jonah | that's great, it's extracted it all - i don't know how you remember all these commands and syntax, very impressive |
| 20:51.39 | FossZombie | it's not that much to know |
| 20:51.52 | FossZombie | it's all innovative, except for tar, tar can confuse lol |
| 20:51.59 | FossZombie | so many params |
| 20:52.30 | FossZombie | Jonah, are you on dsl or cable or what? |
| 20:53.00 | Jonah | FossZombie, dsl, but pretty quick, think it's about 5-6meg or so |
| 20:53.14 | Jonah | supposed to be 8mb but isps are liars haha |
| 20:53.19 | FossZombie | does the modem plug right into the back of your system or does it plug into a router |
| 20:53.47 | FossZombie | Jonah, my cable is supposed to be 8mb but they lie, its more like 10-20 |
| 20:54.04 | Jonah | yeah i got a wireless modem router all in one thing, so that's got ethernet to linux box at the moment, though was on wifi before when was working which is why i need to install that driver again |
| 20:54.25 | Jonah | and i'm talking to you on a mac, good job i have a second computer or i wouldn't know what to do! |
| 20:54.53 | FossZombie | http://www.speedtest.net/result/193976330.png |
| 20:55.20 | FossZombie | Jonah, get irc set up in terminal |
| 20:55.34 | FossZombie | anything you can do in x/e17 you can do in a terminal |
| 20:56.43 | Jonah | FossZombie, do you think it's beneficial to have irc there? |
| 20:56.55 | Jonah | what was the speedtest for ? |
| 20:56.59 | FossZombie | could be if you lose x and don't know how to get back in |
| 20:57.09 | FossZombie | the speedtest link was my speed |
| 20:57.12 | FossZombie | I just tested |
| 20:57.26 | Jonah | do you really get 20000kb/s? |
| 20:57.29 | FossZombie | Ive got some uploads and downloads going at the moment so its a bit on the slow side. |
| 20:57.36 | Jonah | that's pretty fast isn't it |
| 20:57.42 | FossZombie | it's nice |
| 20:57.49 | FossZombie | you should see how fast I download dvds |
| 20:57.55 | FossZombie | I'm faster than most the servers I connect to |
| 20:58.13 | FossZombie | usually servers cap 300-500kb/s per ip |
| 20:58.26 | Jonah | wow that's cool, do you have to have a dedicated line from the isp? |
| 20:58.35 | FossZombie | It's just a home line |
| 20:59.13 | FossZombie | I download ISOs in seconds. |
| 20:59.26 | Jonah | ok i've got X to start so got my beloved elive enlightenment back up now |
| 20:59.35 | FossZombie | good. |
| 20:59.49 | FossZombie | now if you apt-get update && apt-get upgrade again it may ask you to install the ELIVE KERNEL |
| 20:59.56 | FossZombie | it's the same version as my kernel |
| 20:59.59 | FossZombie | DONT install it |
| 21:00.13 | FossZombie | it will prompt you , make sure you skip the install |
| 21:00.43 | Jonah | ok, will it every be safe to install? |
| 21:00.53 | FossZombie | once it's not the same version, once thana updates it, it will be ok to upgrade your kernel/nvidia/kernel-source, etc. but you may have to re-compile your vmware module and wifi module |
| 21:01.11 | FossZombie | everything should install. |
| 21:02.13 | Jonah | FossZombie, ok i just tried to install the wifi driver, but when i modprobe rt61 it says Invalid module format |
| 21:02.29 | FossZombie | Jonah, oh and some people who could install those things, it appears there was a early gem cd that didn't have this kernel problem, or they were using their own custom kernels, or they just had not updated yet lol. that's why it took me a while to understand the problem. |
| 21:02.51 | FossZombie | Jonah, you might have to compile the driver yourself. |
| 21:04.25 | Jonah | FossZombie, well i did make in the driver folder and it said "make:*** /lib/modules/2.6.18-elive/build: no such file or dir. Stop. *** Module rt61.ko built successfully" |
| 21:04.48 | FossZombie | try make clean |
| 21:05.30 | Jonah | ok did make clean, then tried make again and get same error only this time doens't say it's successful but that it failed to build |
| 21:06.13 | Jonah | because there is no such file or dir /lib/modules/2.6.18-elive/build |
| 21:06.23 | Jonah | or something like that |
| 21:07.04 | FossZombie | might have to edit the makefile |
| 21:07.29 | FossZombie | im re-installing elive, ill see if I can figure it out on my end |
| 21:07.51 | Jonah | FossZombie, but shouldn't it all be in order now with new kernel and all |
| 21:09.24 | FossZombie | makefile might be a bit off, i need to look at it myself |
| 21:09.37 | FossZombie | ill see if I can make a package for your driver |
| 21:09.43 | FossZombie | or if I can give you a updated source |
| 21:09.52 | FossZombie | I might just reprogram the fucking thing so this never happens again |
| 21:10.32 | Jonah | it's a killer isnt it! i really appreciate all your help |
| 21:10.33 | FossZombie | submit yet another string of ifdef fixes to ignorant the-redhat-way developers, if that is the case. |
| 21:10.49 | FossZombie | I only get 2 days off a week I can't promice I get this done today I've got a ton of stuff to do |
| 21:11.07 | Jonah | ok well cool thanks, what are those redhat types you talk of? |
| 21:14.26 | FossZombie | well there's a problem with linux driver development |
| 21:14.34 | FossZombie | we are fixing most of the problems in lsb |
| 21:14.41 | FossZombie | it will be a thing of the past soon |
| 21:14.54 | Jonah | and is it cos of the redhatters? |
| 21:15.02 | FossZombie | there's the debian way to maintian a driver/makefile which is sane and will work even in bsd, redhat, etc |
| 21:15.12 | FossZombie | but the driver developers often only develop drivers for rhel |
| 21:15.22 | Jonah | ah right |
| 21:15.30 | FossZombie | and don't program the shit to be compatible with posix, just redhat |
| 21:15.48 | FossZombie | its actually easier to program it for posix/unix and everyone's happy |
| 21:16.18 | Jonah | i've noticed there isn't much love for ubuntu in elive forums etc, is that because it's not pure debian, it certainly seems to be doing very well - everyone seems to be using it or migrating to it and businesses too |
| 21:16.55 | Jonah | and loads of people selling it preinstalled now on desktop machines and stuff |
| 21:17.08 | Jonah | shame elive doesnt get that level of support |
| 21:17.47 | Jonah | it's the only thing i've seen other than windows availabe from vendors for desktop really |
| 21:19.14 | Jonah | FossZombie, ok the vmware installer is asking where the C header files are, so what path should i put, the source folder we extracted or just usr/src or something else? |
| 21:20.48 | Jonah | wow i just went in the usr/src folder and that tar wasn't extracted! no wonder the wifi thing didn't work, i'll extract it properly and try it again |
| 21:21.34 | Jonah | thing is i saw it extract, i wonder if it's extracted somewhere else |
| 21:22.36 | Jonah | no still not working for either vmware or rt61 even with it extracted |
| 21:22.46 | FossZombie | use the source you extracted into /usr/src |
| 21:23.19 | FossZombie | well the problem is in /lib for some reason with the rt driver |
| 21:23.22 | Jonah | vmware says there is no linux sub dir |
| 21:23.38 | Jonah | which is says it "expects" |
| 21:24.48 | FossZombie | don't worry I'll make a deb package |
| 21:24.51 | FossZombie | I think I can |
| 21:25.25 | FossZombie | im going to make kpkg so you can just dpgk -i it |
| 21:26.08 | Jonah | FossZombie, ok thanks a lot - is there a way you or thana can get elive to work with these generic driver builds/vmware installers and other automated installers, it would be great if elive was treated how the other distros were by these installers |
| 21:26.22 | keyra | Jonah: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 21:26.47 | FossZombie | Jonah, we had all of these things working a while ago |
| 21:26.53 | FossZombie | something went wrong. |
| 21:27.08 | FossZombie | it takes a while since thana had to go through a move and all. it was just the worst possible timing |
| 21:27.45 | Jonah | FossZombie, that's a real shame for you and thana - this distro stuff seems like a lot of complicated hard work |
| 21:27.53 | FossZombie | elive is a testing distro, a showcase for e17, it's quite stable, we did seem to have one major problem. One problem is a lot better than the numerous problems other distros have had. |
| 21:27.54 | Jonah | maintaining i mean etc |
| 21:28.07 | keyra | FossZombie: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 21:29.04 | Jonah | FossZombie, so is e17 by thana, you and co. also, is it a showcase because the enlightenment wm is by the same people |
| 21:29.39 | FossZombie | e17 is by the #e team |
| 21:29.57 | FossZombie | thana made elive as a e17 on debian showcase. |
| 21:30.21 | FossZombie | debian has a LOT of support, it's great, stable, e17 isn't as stable. its in development. |
| 21:32.54 | FossZombie | ubuntu is based on debian directly, but up until now they really have not had a professional distro, Gutsy should be quite a bit better than their previous attempts however Elive is a bit more personal and custom. People usually like debian etch / elive more in the end. |
| 21:37.51 | Jonah | i've got my eye on one of these: http://efficientpc.co.uk/desktops/isis/ cos they come all ready and setup with mythtv and the remote etc and it's a slimline quiet case etc so i thought i might get one for my tv instead of dvd recorder etc |
| 21:50.46 | FossZombie | those are kinda cool |
| 21:51.10 | FossZombie | the computer I want is 4000USD |
| 21:51.21 | FossZombie | and that doesn't include the projector |
| 21:52.19 | Jonah | wow |
| 21:53.45 | FossZombie | It's quad-sli with 2 dual core amd fx cpus, 8gb ram, terabyte raid, 2 dual-tv-tuners, 7.1 audigy sound, 22" LCD monitor, in a antec dual psu case. one 650w for the system board and support, another for your drives and devices. |
| 21:54.38 | FossZombie | hauppage remote, g series keyboard and mouse from logitech, airmouse |
| 21:54.47 | FossZombie | 7.1 speakers from creative |
| 21:55.25 | Jonah | FossZombie, sounds amazing! i saw this girl on a train playing this game that looked like battle for wesnoth (which i like) but it looked better, leading teams around with more indepth character stuff and equipment/inventory and stuff. you any idea what it could be, there don't seem to be many open source really good immersive games around |
| 21:55.53 | FossZombie | there are a ton of open source games that I love |
| 21:56.19 | FossZombie | xmoto, wesnorth, nethack/falchon eye, xmoto, enemy-territory, etc etc... |
| 21:56.26 | FossZombie | id games come out with a linux version so do croteam games |
| 21:56.35 | FossZombie | serious sam 2, serious sam gold, |
| 21:56.46 | FossZombie | you can get all the dooms running |
| 21:57.04 | FossZombie | they are not "free" but work nativly |
| 21:57.22 | FossZombie | you can get openareana which is a quake3 clone, you can get alienarena which is like that but with aliens, kinda cool. |
| 21:57.36 | FossZombie | you can get dosbox and load up on old dos games |
| 21:57.44 | FossZombie | abandonware |
| 21:58.04 | FossZombie | apt-get install some emulators and then get the roms |
| 21:58.14 | FossZombie | play nes, snes, gameboy, genesis, etc etc etc |
| 21:58.19 | FossZombie | even newer consoles like playstation |
| 21:58.27 | FossZombie | they even started a ps2 emulator that works on some games |
| 21:58.32 | FossZombie | n64 games run flawlessly |
| 21:58.51 | Jonah | FossZombie, yeah i guess so, have you played dofus, that looks pretty sweet |
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| 22:07.28 | FossZombie | Jonah, no i have not played it |
| 22:08.52 | Jonah | i'm downloading it now to try as it works on mac and linux and it saves your stuff server side so i can resume games on any machine which is cool (if it's any good that is!) |
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| 22:13.59 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, hi again just loggin into irc on elive box now instead, battery nearly out on other |
| 22:14.28 | FossZombie | I'm somewhat busy, trying to set up build environment for kernel/kernelmodule |
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| 22:33.57 | FossZombie | jonah1980, i should be able to generate the driver .deb I'm almost done setting up the build environment you might want to start reading up on how to configure your network device |
| 22:34.11 | keyra | FossZombie: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
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| 22:36.29 | kernel-devel | it would be nice if somone could send me all of the debian-way sources for any drivers they need built against my kernel. |
| 22:36.58 | kernel-devel | fosszombie at gmail dot com you have a few minutes to say something or it will not be built |
| 22:38.27 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, you mean like with iwconfig? i can set it with that it's just saving the setting so they always there from boot |
| 22:39.04 | FossZombie | you can use one of the gui config programs too. |
| 22:41.02 | kernel-devel | build environment almost set up |
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| 22:43.29 | kernel-devel | by the way I'm using vmware to create this build environment i should make a copy of it for later. |
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| 22:56.57 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, http://pastebin.ca/741741 |
| 23:03.26 | FossZombie | maybe it's because you used tests repo |
| 23:03.40 | keyra | FossZombie: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 23:03.46 | FossZombie | it might be possible that to make it work we would have to make a tests dist-upgraded build environment and make a tests kernel |
| 23:05.11 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, i don't think anything came out of the tests repo cept for newer e17 though, it just updated stuff like entrance, entangle and all that... |
| 23:05.38 | jonah1980 | it must just be gcc/symlink stuff isnt it? |
| 23:06.25 | FossZombie | I dont know I have not used the tests repo |
| 23:06.37 | FossZombie | dist-upgrade+tests may have broken your system though. |
| 23:07.32 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, i don't know but before i upgraded to tests i was having these issues also... i only did tests recently when i reinstalled and figured i might as well have the new dock etc from the off |
| 23:11.03 | FossZombie | ill get back to you later I dont have anymore time to spend on this issue |
| 23:11.29 | FossZombie | I can tell you that other people are running my kernel, with vmware and nvidia, so am I. |
| 23:11.51 | FossZombie | and eliaire-III is running your same driver |
| 23:11.59 | FossZombie | with no problems |
| 23:12.03 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, ok well thanks man, i'll got to bed now thanks again |
| 23:12.23 | FossZombie | the only differance is that we are not using tests repo |
| 23:12.27 | jonah1980 | i can live without vmware for a little bit... |
| 23:12.37 | keyra | FossZombie: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 23:13.10 | jonah1980 | i'll keep checking the forums in the meantime for any updates |
| 23:13.18 | jonah1980 | bye for now and thanks again |
| 23:13.59 | jonah1980 | FossZombie, let me know if the deb works and i can always give that a shot |
| 23:14.15 | jonah1980 | will be great to have some wifi back again |
| 23:14.33 | jonah1980 | (my pastebin was for vmware by the way earlier not the wifi driver) |
| 23:15.06 | jonah1980 | ok sleep calls thanks |
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