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00:22.00elmo40i installed Fluxbox, what do i edit in Entrance to view it there?
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00:23.53elmo40anyone?
00:24.00elmo40keyra: ??? ??? ? ???
00:24.28elmo40~entrance
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01:13.51SuperpeZhello
01:15.30elmo40SuperpeZ: hi
01:15.39SuperpeZhow are you elmo40
01:16.12elmo40keeping busy
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01:20.17SuperpeZbusy? what happend?
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01:26.37Elive_user50hello
01:34.24elmo40wow, people come and go quite often...
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02:17.27Elive_user77anybody here?
02:18.07Elive_user77Hello
02:20.42Elive_user77Hello...
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03:32.55zendulehello everone
03:46.55zendulehey bryan are you here?
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03:49.49zendulehowdy howdy
04:08.17elmo40ok, the 'new' skype sucks!
04:08.36elmo40roxville: shh, dont tell me about your other app...
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04:38.06Geek_Juiceelmo40,
04:38.35Geek_Juicecan you do the group conference like on windows...I mean go into live channels and talk ?
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05:01.25zendulein visudo how do i save and quit?
05:01.48Geek_Juiceah ha
05:02.01Geek_Juicezendule, Geek_Juice = Bryanstein
05:02.11zendulehi bud
05:02.18Geek_Juicehey what you do is
05:02.22Geek_Juicehit esc
05:02.36Geek_Juicethen hit the shit and ; sign to make a colon
05:02.39Geek_Juicethen wq
05:02.45Geek_Juiceso it should look like :wq
05:02.54Geek_Juicew = write q = quit
05:03.12zenduleman been trying to figure that out for like an hour
05:03.15zendulethanks
05:03.27Geek_Juicelol
05:03.37Geek_Juiceyou need to read a vi howto
05:03.42Geek_Juicethere are two modes of vi
05:03.49Geek_Juicevi is bread and butter
05:03.51Geek_Juicelearn it
05:04.09Geek_Juiceit is on EVERy system
05:04.19Geek_Juicebut pico nano and stuff like that isn't
05:04.27zendulei tried reading manuals but they all left out the part of saving and quitting
05:05.45Geek_Juicezendule,
05:05.45zenduleI am also having another issue that i been readin up on... My sound card can only play sound from one program at a time. However, my other computer can play multiple. So i have been trying to figure out if it is my sound card or drivers on this computer ... its kinda stumpen me
05:05.48Geek_Juicehttp://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html
05:06.00keyrazendule: try to play with alsa/esound options of the audio configuration in elpanel
05:07.14zendulebrb
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05:09.35zendulei tried telling it to use the alsa sound server... still if listening to the music player and try to use any other sound i get nothing... starting to think the drivers released for my soundcard just can't do it
05:10.15zendulecus everyting works fine on my other computer
05:10.21zenduleright out of the box
05:13.44zendulebrb gonna see if i can reinstall it
05:14.22ProxmanHave any of you had problems exiting Elive?
05:14.45ProxmanSometimes when I go to shut down I will get a grey screen and the system will freeze.
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05:15.10Elive_user58this is zen on my other computer
05:15.18Proxmanok
05:15.35ProxmanHave you had any problems shutting down your computer?
05:15.52Elive_user58how are you trying to shut it down?
05:15.59Proxmansometimes when I go to shutdown I will get a grey screen and the system will just freeze..
05:16.37ProxmanI left click the desktop and click on "Exit Enlightenment" and fro mthere it goes to a grey screen that never goes away.
05:16.53Elive_user58maybe try changing your exit screen
05:17.00Elive_user58to a default one
05:17.08ProxmanI will try that.
05:17.25Proxmanas I do have a custom login screen
05:17.47Elive_user58yea have to be careful some are not compatable
05:18.18Proxmanthis is one that came with the OS
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05:18.43ProxmanI would hope that only compatible ones would be shipped with the Elive package. :)
05:18.51Geek_Juicezendule2, that is a bug in alsa
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05:19.14zendule2how did ya find that? :)
05:19.41zendule2one sec proxman i'll tell you which one i use so you can test my therory
05:19.54Proxmanok
05:20.12zendule2i use lucax.edj
05:20.35Proxmanok, lemme try that one.
05:20.43zendule2i dunno geek... on this computer i can listen to music talk on teamspeak and hear the admin sounds
05:20.48Proxmanas soon as I remember how I changed it to begin with...
05:20.50zendule2weird it works on one computer
05:21.07zendule2admin pannel hit the image to the right... then the one that looks like a door
05:21.46Proxmanah, thats right
05:22.25zendule2how can i find out if maybe this computer is not using alsa
05:22.39Proxmanok... brb I'm gonna see if this works
05:23.42Geek_Juicezendule2,
05:23.47zendule2yea?
05:23.50Geek_Juiceps aux | grep alsa or
05:23.53Geek_Juiceas root
05:24.04Geek_Juice/etc/init.d/alsa start
05:24.13Geek_Juicesee if it says it is already running
05:25.28zendule2yea cus it wants me to unload reload forceunload force reload suspend or resume so i assume that means it is running
05:26.41zendule2curious the other computer says no such file or directory
05:26.48zendule2woops typed it wrong
05:26.57Geek_Juicedo this
05:26.59Geek_Juiceummm
05:27.06Geek_Juicestop esound
05:27.13Geek_Juice/etc/init.d/esound stop
05:27.19zendule2on the one that doesn't work correctly?
05:27.19Geek_Juicethen load alsa again
05:27.30Geek_Juice/etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
05:28.06roxvillehi zendule2
05:28.13zendule2hi roxville
05:28.14roxvillei heard about your problems
05:28.27roxvilletry to pee BEFORE you go to bed...
05:28.36roxvilleit worked for me
05:29.07roxvillei'm sorry, i am full od BAD jokes tonight
05:29.14Geek_Juicehahaha
05:29.19Geek_Juicelol that was a good one
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05:29.37zendule2lol
05:29.42roxvillehi there Elive_user22
05:29.54roxvillehow's minnesota tonight?
05:30.05zendule2okay i tried all that geek on the computer it wasn't working on... and i tried to open my programs differently.
05:30.18zendule2now from one of the programs i get a program is blocking the soundcard
05:30.32Geek_Juiceyes that is a bug with alsa
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05:30.35Geek_Juicethat version
05:30.54zendule2wonder why it works with this computer tho
05:31.00zendule2is it using different version?
05:31.05Proxmanback
05:31.18ProxmanThat didn't work, just had to Fsck my HD's again. LoL
05:31.20zendule2prox did you remember to hit ctrl shift backspack?
05:31.26ProxmanYes
05:31.32zendule2i am not sure them
05:31.37zendule2maybe a driver issue?
05:31.39ProxmanI have tried that on numerous occasio9ns and it still does the same thing
05:31.51ProxmanI have wondered that.. I do have an ATI card after all.
05:32.13ProxmanThis is the only version of Linux that has given me this problem, but I do still enjoy using it.
05:33.16Geek_JuiceProxman, what is wrong over there ??
05:33.20zendule2well this version of linux does a lot of graphics..
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05:33.29zendule2so it is more dependent on your graphics driver
05:33.47Geek_Juiceelive dependant on graphics ...nawwww
05:33.49ProxmanElive keeps freezing up when I try and shut it down.
05:33.54roxvillethe good thing is... it runs pretty well on vesa drivers
05:34.05ProxmanI keep getting a grey screen as opposed to going to the login
05:34.07Geek_Juicefreezes on shutdown
05:34.12Proxmanyep.
05:34.16roxvillethe bad news is...it is MORE awesome with working video drivers
05:34.18Begasusmorning peeps
05:34.19Geek_Juicewell do this Proxman first ugrade
05:34.21Geek_Juicethen try
05:34.36Geek_Juiceapt-get update && apt-get dist-uprgrade
05:35.06roxvilleyeah Proxman DO IT!
05:35.12roxvilleand... don't mind me
05:35.19roxville:)
05:35.36ProxmanI just tried
05:35.50Proxmantold me unable to lock the list directory
05:35.56roxvilletried to not mind me?
05:35.58roxvilleoh
05:36.14roxvilleok Proxman  tell me you sources list
05:36.26roxvilleyou may need to change the repo
05:36.37roxvillenot the whole thing, just the elive one
05:36.53roxvillecream /etc/apt/sources.list
05:36.56Proxmanrepo? sorry, I am still learning linux :)
05:37.02Proxmanah
05:37.04Proxmanone sec
05:37.08roxvilleok :)
05:37.53roxvilledeb http://repository.elive-systems.com elive main efl elive
05:38.00roxvillethis is what it should look like
05:38.01Proxmandeb
05:38.04Proxmancrap
05:38.16roxvillei know... cream sucks
05:38.29roxvilleyou have to right-click and copy
05:38.33Proxmani've been using it for my HTML class, I am used to it :)
05:38.54Geek_JuiceProxman,
05:39.02Geek_Juicedid you run that command as root ?
05:39.19Proxmanoh crap, let me try that as root real quick
05:39.23Proxmandoh!
05:39.26Proxmans
05:39.26zendule2hey geek... where did you go to find out that alsa is having problems with sound from multi programs? would like to read about it cus it works fine on this computer not the other lol
05:39.40keyrazendule2: try to play with alsa/esound options of the audio configuration in elpanel
05:41.17roxvilledon't listen to keyra ... she is pms'ing
05:41.37zendule2lol
05:41.52Proxmanok, I ran the upgrade as root and it told me 0 newly installed and 0 upgraded
05:42.00zendule2yea i been playing with alsa esound options... am thinking that this sound card on my ohter computer is just jacked
05:43.16roxvilleProxman,  i have to ask... did you do apt-get update first?
05:43.44roxvilleyes zendule2  it can happen
05:44.59roxvillezendule2,  you're in the u.s.... you can get an old sound card VERY chep somwhere
05:45.07ProxmanAh, there we go! ty!
05:45.25roxvillea yard sale or whatever... a goodwill store
05:45.37zendule2yea i'll have to find one
05:45.53zendule2my prob is some are so cheap can only get them online
05:45.55roxvilleProxman,  always do apt-get update and the apt-get dist-upgrade
05:46.10roxvilleotherwise apt won't know what updates there are
05:46.26roxvillelol zendule2
05:46.37roxvilleif you come up to chas i can give you one
05:46.39Proxmangotcha. I will remember that for future reference. ty
05:46.47roxvillenp :)
05:50.07zendule2any of you able to listen to multi programs at one time that use pci card... if so what card you got lol
05:51.23roxvillezendule2,  this issue will be fixed soon
05:51.32zendule2i did notice that it says my card is a sound blaster audigy LS when it is SE ... how do you go about getting updated drivers for linux when the manufacturer doesn't support linux
05:51.46keyrazendule2: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff
05:51.59roxvillelol keyra  shut up
05:52.11zendule2you don't like keyra?
05:52.13Geek_Juicezendule2, you make them yourself
05:52.14keyraroxville: :-#
05:52.23Geek_Juicezendule2, it doesn't work
05:52.30Geek_Juicetrust me
05:52.39Geek_Juicedon't even bother trying lol
05:54.01roxvillezendule2,  i love keyra
05:54.08roxvilleshe's my fav bot
05:54.15keyraroxville: I love you too :)
05:54.20roxvillezendule2,  do a google search for keyra :)
05:54.27zendule2keyra
05:54.33roxvilleawww ... she's too sweet
05:54.41zendule2keyra weather
05:55.26zendule2let me run this by you rox see what you think.
05:56.06zendule2i have 1 computer where i can listen to as many programs as i want (onboard sound) and i have my main computer with SoundBlaster audigy se... that can only listen to one thing at a time
05:56.20zendule2is this bug you refer to with alsa a card specific bug?
05:57.05roxvillehmmm
05:57.25roxvillei have onboard too, and it works fine
05:57.44roxvillemaybe you just need to tell the system something different...
05:57.54roxvilleGeek_Juice, can help you with that
05:58.06zendule2he thinks it is a bug too i think
05:58.12roxvillehe's got a degree in soundblasterology
05:58.19ProxmanLoL
05:58.27zendule2i am starting to think this sound card sucks and wish my onboard sound worked on this computer cus it got fried
05:58.41ProxmanI haven't had issues with my Audigy in Elive
05:58.56zendule2can you listen to 2 things at one time prox?
05:59.04ProxmanI am pretty sure... one sec
05:59.09zendule2cus i have sound just fine just can't listen to 2 things at one time
06:00.41roxvilleProxman,  zendule2 the sound thing WILL be adressed soon,. i promise
06:01.01roxvillei can not listen to 2 sound sources at the same time either
06:01.24roxvillemaybe not in the next dev version... but VERY soon
06:01.27roxvilleand eliove
06:01.33zendule2but this computer can its a cure for the disease! lol
06:01.41roxvilleand elive's dev releases are usually VERY good
06:02.04roxvillehehe i had someone last night that still ran 0.5 unstable
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06:02.29ProxmanI can kind of.. Lol If I lower the volume of the Mp3 player it also lowers the volume of Youtube videos... I had never noticed this before
06:02.31zendule2does elive upgrade via the package manager or will i have to reinstall?
06:02.35roxvillehi Elive_user50 \
06:03.10roxvillezendule2,  the installer has an upgrade feature
06:03.21roxvilleif it sees an old elive install
06:03.32Elive_user50hola alguien me puede decir si puedo actualizar mi elive gem 0.6.2 al 1.0 sin necesidad de instalar desde el cd digo algo asikomo con el synaptic
06:03.47keyraElive_user50: que tal ?
06:04.00roxvilleegrub,  esta?
06:04.02roxvillelol
06:04.16Elive_user50se podra???
06:04.34roxvilleElive_user50,  no habla espaniol... sorry
06:04.41roxvillehabla ingles.
06:05.01roxvillebut i am trying to find someone that speaks spanish
06:05.25zendule2lol i can listen to youtube and listen to music... weird
06:05.38zendule2but if i try to use a game and music it no work
06:05.40zendule2blah!
06:05.50zendule2it has to be a driver issue
06:06.24zendule2i will go crazy till i figure this out lol
06:06.43roxvillezendule2,  it IS a driver issue!
06:06.52roxvillehow many times do i have to tell you?
06:06.59roxvillejust say a number
06:07.04zendule2lol
06:07.05roxvillelol
06:07.13zendule2i mean with this paticular card
06:07.21roxvillejust say a number
06:07.25roxville:D
06:07.27zendule2okay i shush
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06:08.03zenduleweee
06:08.11roxvillelol
06:08.17zendulehow do you say things in
06:08.20zendule2red
06:08.58zendule2how do you do
06:08.58zenduleactions
06:09.12roxvilleactions?
06:09.18zendule2the little *
06:09.35roxvillewe have square dance in the channel every other tuesday... Geek_Juice  is the teacher
06:09.48roxvilleis that action enough?
06:09.50Proxmanhee haw
06:10.03roxvilleor the chess club is on wednesdays... also Geek_Juice
06:10.52zendule2how you get a list of channel commands?
06:11.06Proxmangoogle it :)
06:11.12zendule2damn it prox!
06:11.20Proxmanthere are a lot of IRC help pages
06:11.36zendule2i thought there was a list command tho
06:11.39zendule2i'll find it
06:12.08Proxmantype /help
06:12.43roxvilleoh sorry Geek_Juice ...
06:13.23roxvillewe have the new flamenco classes... led by... Geek_Juice  .... on thursday nights...
06:13.33Geek_Juicelol
06:13.40Geek_JuiceI am playing now actually
06:13.57FossZombieI don't know what your talking about I was helping the sheep over the fence.
06:14.15FossZombieerr... I mean good night people
06:14.19roxvillelol FossZombie
06:14.27roxvillegood night FossZombie
06:14.33FossZombieToday was crazy
06:14.50roxvillec.r.a.z.e.e.e.e.e.e
06:15.01FossZombie2 people shot at cops with airguns and then went on a high speed chace (over 120mph)
06:15.17FossZombiethey drove to my post and I had to block them in and help take them down
06:15.38zendule2topic elive howdy
06:16.54FossZombieI just can't wait for my transfer I don't want to have to fight noobs who call themselves gangsters all day.
06:18.03FossZombieThis guy comes up and knocks my lunch out of my hand and it lands on the ground so I move in put my foot behind his and slap him and push through until he falls into the ground.
06:18.08FossZombieso then im hungry all day on a double shift
06:18.36FossZombiebut at least a pwned him
06:20.18roxvillelol
06:20.29roxvillehe is too
06:20.31roxvillemuch
06:20.50zendule2who here knows now to write drivers?
06:20.58roxvillepeople, these things always happen to him, so don't be alarmed
06:21.25roxvillezendule2,  who here? i can teach you the basics of the gimp if you want
06:21.31roxvillebut drivers.... no
06:21.54zendule2i used to write drivers in college.. can't remember my ass from my elbow now tho
06:22.36roxvilleLOL
06:22.46zendule2i need to go back to school
06:22.56zendule2i love learning about computers (hence linux)
06:24.01zendule2so does anyone know where i can get cool games for linux like doom and stuff?
06:24.17Geek_Juicezendule2, doom for LinuxNIT
06:24.20Geek_Juiceoops
06:24.28Geek_Juicesorry LinuxNIT'
06:24.30Geek_Juicezendule2,
06:24.44Geek_Juiceyou have do download the maps but it runs natively on linux
06:25.16zendule2what is the red text is that a whisper?
06:28.37roxvillewhen someone says your nick
06:28.38zendule2is that a channel?
06:28.45roxvillezendule2,
06:28.52zendule2huh?
06:29.06Geek_Juicelol a whisper
06:29.09Geek_Juicehahaha wtf
06:29.09roxvilleif you type my nick then i get the red
06:29.11Geek_Juicezendule2,
06:29.15zendule2roxville, test
06:29.16Geek_Juiceyou want to play doom now ?
06:29.23roxvillelol
06:29.24zendule2i can't find it lol
06:29.29Geek_Juicewait
06:29.40Geek_Juicethere is a site you have to get maps fromn
06:29.55Geek_Juiceand you can play enenmy territory
06:29.56roxvilleGeek_Juice, is wifi-wiz in tests only?
06:30.10Geek_Juicethat is amigamias favorite
06:30.20Geek_Juicenot sure roxville
06:32.09ProxmanI'd like a copy of it if I could get my hands on it
06:32.30zendule2yea curious where to get a non demo :)
06:32.42Geek_Juicezendule2, non demo of what ?
06:32.47Geek_Juicedoom on linux is free man
06:32.58zendule2where i can't find the free non demo
06:33.20zendule2you talking about doom legacy?
06:33.24Geek_Juiceyes
06:33.31Geek_Juicewhich one are you talking about ?
06:34.01zendule2any of them but was talkinga bout like doom 4 lol
06:36.14roxvilleapt, make-eap
06:36.15aptmake-eap is probably http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html
06:36.22roxvilleProxman,  that is for you
06:36.36roxvilleit's not hard, just a little... special
06:36.42Proxmangotcha
06:38.43Geek_Juicezendule you can easily find it online
06:39.25zendule2yea trying to download an un stuffit
06:48.46roxvilleand merry christmas
06:49.02roxvilleok that's a bit early...
06:49.44roxvillehttp://www.dyna.co.za/cars/1973_Citroen_DS-23_Station_Wagon_Maroon_ssf11.jpg
06:49.47roxvilleyum...
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07:27.47svalovickeyra who is bot here?
07:28.01keyrasvalovic: you think so ?
07:28.13svalovicnot you
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07:38.31wasynytapt keyra bot
07:38.45keyrawasynyt: bot
07:47.45svalovicwasynyt: thanks
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08:33.25Hraefnnickserve identify Hraefn
08:33.34Hraefnoops
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08:48.53Elive_user86can anyone tell me how to use xchat
08:50.19svalovici prefer chat in opera
08:50.55Elive_user86and which client???
08:51.11Elive_user86i mean can u voice chat with any application
08:51.25svalovicoh, dont know
08:51.44svalovicmaybe skype?
08:52.11Elive_user86dont know.........
08:52.28svalovicwhat exactly do you want to do
08:52.33Elive_user86searched for many clients
08:52.58Elive_user86i want to voice chat on gtalk
08:53.12Elive_user86as gtalk client dont work on linux
08:53.29svalovicok, sorry, i know nothing about that
08:53.56Elive_user86and how do u use opera to chat???
08:54.07Elive_user86i m new to xchat
08:56.11svalovicthere is a possibility to create account for mail and chat, there you choose server, lists rooms, and that is
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08:57.08svalovicin xchat you can choose XChat menu - Networks and choose some
08:58.06Elive_user86and how to do private chat
08:59.04svalovicin opera you start new channel...
09:01.08Elive_user86ok thanks dude
09:01.39svalovicsorry, i tried :-)
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09:03.44HraefnLOL
09:03.49Hraefngave up that easily, eh?
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09:04.55Hraefnwb svalovic
09:05.08pseudolegolashi
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09:05.31Hraefnhello pseudo
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09:09.42svalovicsorry i was in opera chat client, now i try xchat
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09:33.19wasynytgood morning world
09:35.09bouba_helloooo!
09:35.17Hraefngood morning :)
09:35.41Hraefnof course, if you lived in the UK, you'd be enjoying an extra hour of sleep :)
09:35.44wasynythow are you people doing :D
09:35.49wasynytnice
09:35.51wasynyt;P
09:35.58Hraefnso far, I'm okay
09:36.03bouba_here too! (italy)
09:36.22Hraefnand yourself?
09:36.32Hraefnany mad-cap stories from your Sat. night?
09:36.33Hraefnhehe
09:38.20Hraefngood good
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09:49.38wasynytgood morning assasukasse
09:49.49assasukassemorning wasynyt
09:49.51assasukasse:D
09:51.25Hraefnstill having issue with upgrading...entrance-themes
09:51.38Hraefnis it possible to just NOT upgrade that package?
09:52.35assasukasseHraefn: what problems
09:55.38wasynytbrb
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10:18.24Hraefnwb
10:19.07assasukassei have been using elive from 0.5
10:19.14assasukasseand i must say that improved alot
10:19.23Hraefn:)
10:19.43wasynytheh
10:21.50HraefnI think it's a nice distro to have on a semi-older machine like my own
10:22.02Hraefnalready noticing a massive performance improvement from Xubuntu
10:23.54wasynytheh
10:24.08wasynytyou should see how it flies on performance machine
10:24.15HraefnI'm sure :)
10:24.26Hraefnwhen I get a new laptop (w/in a year I think), I'll give it a whirl
10:24.36wasynyt:D
10:25.20HraefnI just cant justify a massive GUI prog controling my machine...(a la Vista)
10:25.24Hraefnthere's no need
10:25.59Hraefnabs. no need
10:29.21Hraefnthat, and I rather enjoy the challenge of learning how my computer works
10:29.30Hraefnand that comes with a more hands-on OS
10:29.34HraefnIMHO
10:30.22wasynytwhat i like the most, is the ability to change the looks of you gui
10:30.35Hraefnyes
10:30.36keyrawasynyt: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System
10:30.47Hraefnagreed
10:31.00Hraefnmy desktop doesn't look like anyone elses (or at least, it doesn't have to)
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10:33.10wasynytyeah
10:34.22Hraefnnobody smells bad...
10:34.39Hraefnthey're all elive users just hitting icons
10:34.40Hraefn:)
10:35.19wasynytso it seems
10:35.39wasynytbut i think it would be polite to say hi.. if one ends up here
10:35.43Hraefnhehe
10:35.46Hraefnone would think
10:35.50wasynytyeha
10:35.55Hraefnso, I just downloaded some reading material
10:36.16Hraefnthe latest UN GEO report
10:36.24Hraefn500+ pages
10:36.31keyraHraefn: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository
10:36.32Hraefnall telling me that the world's going to crap
10:36.41wasynytnah
10:36.51wasynytone does not need to read to know that
10:36.54Hraefnhehe
10:37.01Hraefnwell, I do try to keep myself informed
10:37.10wasynyt:D
10:37.13Hraefnand I've been reading the IPCC papers as they come out
10:38.13Hraefn..
10:39.36Hraefndigg is such a lame site...why do I bother
10:39.39Hraefn?
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11:39.49SuperpeZhello, good morning
11:41.11Hraefnhello SuperpeZ
11:41.43SuperpeZhi Hraefn, how are you?
11:45.35Hraefn...well, I suppose
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11:45.43Hraefnit's time to log and take a shower
11:45.44Hraefnbbl
11:46.11SuperpeZhave a good shower Hraefn, see you later
11:46.21Hraefn:)
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12:33.31Elive_user79"Morning" every1!
12:35.00Becks83i'v been trying to find a neet How-To-Install-Beryl on elive guide :) but been unsuccesfull
12:35.11Becks83Anyone have any tips/url's
12:35.46Becks83awsome builtin ati fglrx btw <3 been having so much fuzz trying to install it on suse
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12:39.54Becks83or any other way just to get a 3d desktop cube
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12:52.24wasynytelive does not offically support beryl/compiz
12:52.27sambagirlhttp://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/news/2007-10-23
12:53.42wasynytyup i have allready readed tha
12:53.45wasynyt*that
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12:57.09TheodenMorning / evening all
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12:57.22Becks83aaa y i found it aswell :(
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12:57.26Hraefnidentify Hraefn
12:57.28Hraefnoops
12:57.29Becks83but i see that there is a 3d desktop
12:57.39Becks83but how to activate it =)
12:59.36Becks83holy shit
12:59.39Becks83that easy
13:04.39HraefnBecks, what have you done?
13:05.12Becks83im so unfurmiliar with elive's system, totaly missed the run command application
13:05.44elmo40Geek_Juice:
13:05.45Becks83so 3d works but just 1 desktop, read that u need e16 instead of e17 for it to work somhow, jsut not sure how to go back to e16
13:05.59Hraefnyou're on elive, right?
13:06.09Becks83yea, jsut installed
13:06.17Hraefnyou can select e16 at the login window
13:06.29Becks83ooooo
13:06.30HraefnI believe, at least...
13:06.33Becks83=)
13:06.36Becks83gonna try
13:06.39Hraefn'kay
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13:06.43Becks83tnx
13:23.52Hraefnhehe
13:23.54Hraefnplopped
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13:29.20Hraefnhmmm...audio player has crashed, won't reopen...
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13:43.42elmo40Hraefn: xmms? i find beep to be more stable.
13:43.59Hraefnmeh, I rebooted, it's fine now
13:44.09Hraefnif I need to, I'll just dump in the future
13:47.02elmo40Hraefn: dont dump here... we have no toilet paper >_<
13:47.36HraefnLOL
13:47.38Hraefnokay
13:47.44HraefnI'll bury it in the backyard
13:47.46Hraefnhehe
13:48.06wasynytgood afternoon elmo40
13:48.06elmo40good boy. now SIT
13:48.10elmo40wasynyt: mornin'
13:48.48wasynythow has your day started
13:48.55elmo40hasnt yet ;)
13:48.58elmo40need breaky
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13:49.06wasynyt;P
13:49.19elmo40thinkin about heading to the local greasy spoon for some vittles
13:49.23wasynytgood afternoon TiteFleur
13:49.28wasynytheh
13:49.56elmo40TiteFleur: femme?
13:50.24TiteFleuryes
13:50.38elmo40just asking :)
13:50.45TiteFleurnp ;)
13:54.11assasukassehi all
13:54.32wasynytgood afternoon assasukasse
13:54.48assasukasse:)
13:54.52assasukasseafternoon wasynyt
13:55.24wasynyt:D
13:56.05wasynythow are you doing
13:57.46assasukassejust had lunch
13:58.49wasynytnice
13:59.24Hraefnmmm...food
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14:25.38Hraefnquestion: is there a mail checking module?
14:25.47Hraefnas in, a desktop icon that alerts me to new e-mail?
14:26.10Elive_user75I believe there is, I saw something about one the other day
14:26.15LinuxNITthere might be one if you install the e-modules package... im not sure what all is in there
14:26.24Hraefnthere is one there...but it's not working
14:26.57LinuxNIToh
14:27.28Hraefnmeh, not a big deal
14:27.38HraefnI just iconize icedove
14:27.40Hraefnno biggie
14:27.46HraefnI'm just THAT lazy :)
14:27.51LinuxNITgkrellm might have one
14:28.07Hraefnprolly...I'll check
14:28.28LinuxNITyou on the defualt e17 version in elive/
14:28.29LinuxNIT?
14:29.13Hraefnyup
14:31.37Hraefnright...installed gkrellm...
14:31.40Hraefnrun it from CL?
14:33.17Hraefndang..that's all-in-one
14:33.43mefuwhat about embrace?
14:33.47mefui think that's what I was looking at earlier
14:33.57Hraefnyeah that won't load
14:34.00Hraefnfor some reason??
14:34.30mefuI don't know, I'm about to download it in synaptic right now
14:34.38mefuI'll let you know if it's not working for me as well
14:34.45assasukassei use mail-notification
14:35.25Hraefnokay
14:37.00elmo40mail-notification? what is that?
14:37.25elmo40ahh, a systray thingy
14:37.25elmo40;)
14:37.45elmo40how about wmmail ? or biff ?
14:38.12mefuyea it was no good for me either
14:38.13mefuheh
14:39.48Hraefnso I'm not totally nuts
14:40.04elmo40only a little nuts?
14:40.07mefuor we both are
14:40.09Hraefnhehe
14:40.09elmo40like peanut butter?
14:40.14Hraefnthey do call me Peanut at work
14:40.19elmo40just smooshed a little? the cruncky stuff
14:40.26Hraefnlol
14:40.27elmo40not the smooth stuff
14:40.30Hraefngraphic, but sure
14:41.09elmo40we dont even have a 'system tray' do we...
14:41.12Hraefnnope
14:41.17elmo40mail-notification - mail notification in system tray
14:41.29elmo40assasukasse: how do you use mail-notification?
14:41.42assasukassetrayer :D
14:41.59elmo40true
14:42.02elmo40:/
14:42.06elmo40why didnt i think of that?
14:42.36elmo40default E17?
14:42.49elmo40i had issues with that app a while back.
14:43.02Hraefntrayer...
14:43.06Hraefnhmmm..
14:43.07elmo40i think i installed something similar. systray or something?
14:43.10Hraefnneed to install it?
14:43.22mefuI've never heard of trayer
14:43.40elmo40stalonetray
14:43.40mefui've been led to believe there was no working system tray as of yet :|
14:44.08elmo40mefu: not in default E packages... this is 'third party' stuff ;)
14:44.22mefuoh
14:44.34Hraefnsound so bleedin' edge
14:44.38Hraefnmakes my laptop weep
14:44.39elmo40lol
14:44.39Hraefn:)
14:44.48elmo40stalonetray worked for me, maybe i will try it again
14:44.55elmo40just didnt resize very well...
14:45.00mefuI'll definitely look into them both
14:45.05mefuI miss having a systray
14:45.08mefu:/
14:45.13Hraefnin an update
14:45.16Hraefnwe'll get it back
14:45.21HraefnI bet
14:45.22Hraefn:)
14:45.29elmo40plus, i think it hit everything in it. When i iconified/minimized an app, it would go there as well as the upper left.
14:46.02mefuactually I don't really care so much for the tray, but it makes messengers a lot easier
14:46.47Hraefnooh...just got an e-mail
14:47.00Hraefnmeh, the sound that icedove makes will work well enough to keep me informed
14:47.08mefulol
14:47.10mefuis it annoying?
14:47.15Hraefnnah
14:47.22Hraefnno worse than the start-up sound
14:47.23Hraefn:)
14:47.26Hraefnwhich I like
14:47.28mefufair enough
14:47.33mefuI like sound-free
14:47.33mefuhehe
14:47.40Hraefnjust a high-pitch Ppppeeeeeeppp
14:47.41mefui always get mad at things interrupting my music :P
14:47.41Hraefn:)
14:47.44HraefnLOL
14:48.02HraefnI'm streaming right now..some pretty Sunday-afternoon chill stuff
14:48.08Hraefnlike bring-on-a-nap music
14:48.09Hraefn:/
14:48.27mefuwell, it is sunday
14:48.45mefuI am a football fan because it gives me a reason to nap on sundays guilt-free
14:49.21Hraefn:)
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14:51.08Hraefnthere..different stream
14:51.10HraefnLOL
14:51.13mefusorry, that was me :P
14:52.08mefui've been using e17 for about a month, but i just installed elive this morning
14:52.11mefui'm pretty impressed
14:52.23Hraefnyeah?
14:52.32Hraefnit's nice...pretty slick for a noob to linux as I am
14:52.40Hraefnthe install was super-easy
14:52.50mefuas my girlfriend said "that's pretty"
14:52.51Hraefnas in I've had harder issues with Windows before
14:52.53HraefnLOL
14:52.59Hraefnsparkly backgrounds
14:53.04Hraefnturn on the Snow module :)
14:53.09mefuhaha
14:53.14Hraefndo it
14:53.16Hraefnshe'll love it
14:53.20mefushe's seen it before
14:53.30mefuas I said before, I ran e17 for about a month
14:53.54mefushe was talking more about the boot and the login animations and what not
14:53.54mefuhehe
14:54.00HraefnLOL
14:54.01Hraefnsure
14:54.09Hraefnthat's why I like it too
14:54.14Hraefnto be honest
14:54.17mefuyea
14:54.22HraefnI'm an eye-candy person
14:54.22mefuhonestly, I like it because it's superfast
14:54.26Hraefnthat too
14:54.36mefuthis is just a 1.6ghz w/ 512mbram
14:54.37Hraefnesp. on my P4 256m-ram Laptop :)
14:54.52mefuand it's running like my 3ghz windows box
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14:55.06keyramefu: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems
14:55.22mefuhaha
14:55.34HraefnKeyra has an opinion, clearly :)
14:55.47mefuI've a feeling it was called upon by saying windows :P
14:55.48HraefnI've been hooked on Linux since I first tried Suse 10.0
14:55.50Hraefneons ago
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14:56.00HraefnMe too, mefu
14:56.25mefuAh, I am pretty new to linux
14:56.30mefuI tried ubuntu for a while
14:56.34Hraefnsame here :)
14:56.38HraefnXubuntu, actually
14:56.42mefuah
14:56.44Hraefnwas going to give Fluxbuntu a go
14:56.50Hraefndownloaded the .iso today
14:56.58mefuI was just doing kubuntu, but then i turned it into elbuntu :D
14:57.01Hraefnit's alright, but a bit piggy
14:57.08mefuYea
14:57.15HraefnKDM is a massive resourse pic
14:57.16Hraefnpig
14:57.18HraefnI think
14:57.24mefuI'd say it was pretty good for giving me a feel of how to work w/ linux in a less intimidating way
14:57.34Hraefnsure sure
14:57.41Hraefnlike I could give a copy of that to my grandmother
14:57.43mefuI tried slackware years ago, and I have no idea what any of it was
14:57.45Hraefnand she'd be pleased
14:57.53HraefnI did try DSL
14:57.57Hraefnwhich was a hoot
14:58.11Hraefnbut not quite what I wanted
14:58.23mefuok, i've a quick question
14:58.27Hraefnshoot
14:58.42mefudo you guys think this Iceweasel is worth anything
14:58.47mefuor if i should just go ahead and install firefox
14:59.27HraefnI"m okay with iceweasel..and I understand why Elive has it
14:59.33Hraefnrather than firefox (which is kinda bloated)
14:59.38mefumore resource friendly?
14:59.42HraefnI've had no probs with my ff plugins working
14:59.51mefuheh, as long as it can handle the simpler things I should be ok
14:59.56HraefnI think so
15:00.13mefulike java and all that good stuff
15:00.16Hraefnyup
15:00.21Hraefnall good
15:00.28mefui'm all for minimal resource usage
15:00.28mefuhehe
15:00.32Hraefnyup
15:00.34mefuthanks
15:00.39Hraefnnp
15:01.23HraefnYeah, I just had to get away from windows back last Feb
15:01.33HraefnI kept watching it eat more and more hd space
15:01.44Hraefnwhen you've only got 30gig, you've gotta keep an eye on that
15:01.51mefufor sure
15:01.59HraefnI do miss a working wifi card
15:02.01Hraefnbut not that much
15:03.17Hraefnthat'll teach me for not looking for a card that is linux-happy
15:04.26mefuaha
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15:22.52Thrasherfucking pansy distro
15:22.57wasynyt_mac?
15:23.09wasynyt_macwhat your language
15:23.12Thrasherjust seeing if anyone was paying attention?
15:23.51wasynyt_macheh
15:23.53Hraefnhmph
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15:35.15Thrasheris there a different version of elive between x86 and x64 platforms?
15:38.39wasynytthere is no 64 bit version
15:38.52Thrasheroh good
15:42.46excalibashello, i would like very much to try elive, but it is impossible for me to make a donation right now, i dont have paypal ( i dont even have a bank account) is there  a way i can try elive and mabie later contribute?
15:43.00keyraexcalibas: Would you like to contribute to Elive? you can make some translations http://dev.elivecd.org, report bugs (very important) http://bugs.elivecd.org, help with the wireless support, make any patch or better feature and send to the dev. etc...
15:45.00excalibaskeyra, i could do that, but i cant get elive widouth a donnation
15:45.07wasynytget a dev version
15:45.51wasynythttp://www.elivecd.org/Download/Development.html
15:46.05wasynytbear in mind that there is a new dev version on its way
15:47.17excalibaswasynyt, it says there that "The actual development version is more OLD than the Stable version"
15:47.33wasynytyes.. but  it is quite good indication
15:47.41wasynytfor a try
15:47.51wasynytand new dev version is on its way
15:49.57excalibasok, i wil try, i thought it was just for developers, i dont know much about coding, i want to use elive to work with video
15:50.39wasynytif you really want to use elive but cannot donate contact thanatermesis... he can be found from #elivemac
15:51.53excalibasthanks, i will try that
15:52.00wasynyt:D
15:52.47excalibashes not there :(
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15:58.14excalibasis anyone using puredata in elive?
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16:16.43Hraefnit's so dark so early now
16:16.50Hraefnvive le time change
16:17.51wasynytheh
16:19.17Hraefnnow, if society would just let me hibernate
16:21.08wasynytthat is not a good plan
16:21.11mefuriffin raffin ruffin roffin
16:21.22wasynytgood evening mefu
16:21.25mefuhehe
16:21.38mefutheme made it all crash :/
16:21.42mefuguess I won't be using that one
16:21.44wasynyt:/
16:21.46wasynytnot nice
16:21.51Hraefnyes, but hibernation with pay and all the bills done by direct debit would be okay
16:22.15Hraefnwait...that's retirement :)
16:22.20wasynythmm.. i am not sure if i would like to sleep more than i do
16:23.28Hraefntrue...you should know, I'm speaking like this because today's the last day of my week-long holiday
16:23.36Hraefnand I'm lamenting going back to work tomorrow
16:23.39Hraefnthat's all
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16:35.23Elive_user36hello
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17:17.22mefudo you put new themes in ~/.e/e/themes?
17:17.42mefufor some reason they're not showing up as my personal themes in there
17:17.42mefuheh
17:18.47wasynytheh.. you have testing e17
17:19.16mefueh?
17:19.20mefui duno
17:19.31mefuI just got the one that came with the cd i downloaded when i donated
17:19.31mefuhehe
17:19.34wasynytthen you dont
17:19.44wasynytbecause all those new themes are for newer e17
17:20.01mefui've got multiple themes in there, but I just downloaded one
17:20.06wasynytwhich is coming to elive in next dev (as supported)
17:20.06mefublack theme
17:20.14wasynyttesting repo
17:20.24keyrawasynyt: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository
17:21.00mefuhmm
17:21.00mefuthanks
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17:22.08mefu/etc/apt/sources.list to add a repo, yes?
17:22.12mefuyes
17:22.28wasynytyes
17:22.43wasynytthen apt-get update
17:23.57mefuthanks
17:24.28wasynytyour welcome
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18:05.23Wizardgood evening
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19:01.40OpenSpacegood evening all
19:02.58wasynyt_macgood evening OpenSpace
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19:26.50wasynyt_macgood evening Wizard
19:27.47Wizardhello wasynyt_mac
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19:28.31wasynyt_machow are you doing
19:28.54Elive_user35ok, just booted this up. it's nice!
19:29.44Elive_user35it's a little too big for my screen, I have to scroll up and down to see the top or bottom
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19:30.15wasynytwhat screen you have
19:30.20Elive_user35my LCD doesn't allow adjustment like that. ANy ideas?
19:30.25wasynytand what resolution you told it use
19:30.31wasynyt*it to
19:30.38Elive_user35it's a acer 1440x900
19:31.15wasynytdid you tell elive to use that resolution
19:31.24Elive_user35yes
19:31.36wasynythmm
19:31.37Wizardwasynyt: i'm fine, but still abit hangovered ;)
19:31.40wasynytheh
19:32.34wasynytElive_user35: please give yourself a name.. and try changing the resolution from elpanel
19:32.45wasynytname : /nick new_nick
19:33.33Elive_user35ok, but what's wrong with Elive_user35?
19:34.01wasynytit is too generic.. we have few eliveuserxx's
19:34.12wasynytand i prefer talking to persons
19:34.15wasynyt;P
19:34.18Wizard:D
19:34.32wasynytcan you pastebin your xorg.conf for me
19:36.07wasynyt?
19:36.28Elive_user35k 1st, how do I change my name?
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19:36.41Wizard<PROTECTED>
19:37.13wasynytgood evening letsjustsaybobby
19:37.22Wizardo_O
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19:38.44wasynytdo you need help or not
19:38.45wasynyt?
19:38.57anony_bobbycan't blame him, I'll stop goofing... sorry
19:39.05anony_bobbyhow do I pastbin
19:39.50wasynytwww.pastebon.com and open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in text editor.. then paste it to that web site click send and give us the link
19:39.57wasynyt*pastebin.com
19:40.08wasynytapt slap wasynyt
19:40.09aptACTION slaps wasynyt, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
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19:40.20wasynytgood evnening bentejuy
19:40.34wasynyt*evening
19:40.45bentejuygood evening wasynyt :)
19:40.51bentejuyhi all!
19:41.11anony_bobbyperhaps my first question should be how do I install to a hard drive? thank you.
19:41.45wasynytright most icon on the lower bar
19:42.14anony_bobbygreat! Thank you all for your help. See you in a few.
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19:42.39wasynyt*wonders
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19:50.09Elive_user67hi everyone!
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19:50.25wasynytgood evening Elive_user67
19:50.33wasynytand who might you be ?
19:50.47wasynyt<PROTECTED>
19:50.54Elive_user67yes, moment
19:51.09Watashiwa7done
19:51.23wasynytnice
19:51.26wasynythow are you doing
19:51.35Watashiwa7fine, thanks :)
19:51.46Watashiwa7I just replaced the elive kernel
19:51.59Watashiwa7with the general 686
19:52.21Watashiwa7now VirtualBox and Vmware work
19:52.29wasynytgood to hear
19:52.39wasynytwhere did you get your generic kernel
19:52.41Watashiwa7why a specific kernel?
19:52.44wasynytdebian ?
19:52.53Watashiwa7from synaptic
19:52.58wasynythmm
19:53.01Watashiwa7yes, debian repositories
19:53.06wasynyti guess it is debian then
19:53.07wasynyt:D
19:53.32wasynytwell elive kernel has some differences to debian one..
19:53.48Watashiwa7ok
19:53.53wasynyt:D
19:53.56Watashiwa7but a lot of programs
19:54.03Watashiwa7don't like that :P
19:54.20wasynytdont like what ?
19:54.29Watashiwa7the name of the kernel
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19:54.51Watashiwa7yeah
19:54.57wasynythmm
19:55.00Watashiwa7try to install virtualbox
19:55.10Watashiwa7I was going crazy
19:55.18wasynytheh.. well the current elive kernel is a little borken
19:55.40Watashiwa7I think is virtualbox fault
19:56.15Watashiwa7it tries to compile according the name of the kernel
19:56.32Watashiwa7if the kernel isn't in his database
19:56.44wasynytheh
19:56.53wasynytwell that is some odd way to do it
19:56.57Watashiwa7it prints a wonderful error log
19:57.05wasynyti can only guess
19:58.06Watashiwa7isn't there a way to use
19:58.15Watashiwa7the elive kernel for the live mode
19:58.25Watashiwa7and the "normal" for the installed?
19:58.37Wizardshit shit shit.. fscking cron!
19:58.46wasynytWizard: ?
19:59.02wasynytthe livecd mode will allways use its own kernel
19:59.11wasynytit does not hd for anything
19:59.17wasynyt*need hd
19:59.24Watashiwa7yeah
19:59.31Watashiwa7but when you install elive
19:59.51Watashiwa7with that kernel there are some problems
19:59.53Watashiwa7ah
20:00.14Watashiwa7when I delete icons from ibar
20:00.15wasynytso change the installed kernel
20:00.29Watashiwa7enlightment crashed
20:00.36Watashiwa7with this kernel no
20:00.54Watashiwa7yeah, I already changed it
20:00.58wasynytk
20:01.10Watashiwa7it's only an advice
20:01.13wasynytcan you make a complite report of what you did and what happened
20:01.23Watashiwa7ok
20:01.32Watashiwa7let me think
20:01.40wasynytpaste it to #elivefun
20:01.50wasynytso we wont bother people here
20:02.13Watashiwa7ah, ok
20:02.41Watashiwa7is it a channel?
20:02.48wasynytyeah
20:02.53wasynyt<PROTECTED>
20:02.55Watashiwa7I found only
20:02.58Watashiwa7#elive
20:02.59abottWatashiwa7: one of THE friendliest channels i have seen!
20:03.13Watashiwa7and #elivemac
20:03.38wasynyttype /join #elivefun
20:03.44wasynytthen press enter
20:03.44Watashiwa7ok
20:03.51Wizard:P
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20:12.24wasynytyes
20:12.35Watashiwa7here
20:12.44wasynytyup
20:12.54wasynytso you want to create a eap for app
20:13.00Watashiwa7yeah
20:13.19Watashiwa7they don't seem plain ascii text
20:13.26wasynytthey are not
20:13.58wasynytthere is an editor for them,, but i cant remeber what it was
20:14.06wasynytWizard:  ? you remember
20:14.18Watashiwa7I could'n find it
20:14.37Wizardwasynyt: eap_editor
20:14.40Wizardor something like this
20:14.46wasynytthank you
20:15.09Watashiwa7ah, ok
20:15.12Watashiwa7I found it
20:15.22Watashiwa7I create an icon with this
20:15.43Watashiwa7then I find it in application/all folder
20:15.46Watashiwa7right?
20:16.43Wizardhai
20:16.54Watashiwa7ok, perfect
20:17.09wasynytheh
20:17.21Wizardi'm playing with logs :P
20:17.30wasynytheh
20:17.31Watashiwa7what anime? (sorry for the OT)
20:17.35wasynytare they fun
20:17.40wasynytwhat ot
20:17.45Wizardoff topic
20:17.52WizardWatashiwa7: it's ok here
20:17.59wasynytwas there topic here
20:18.03wasynyt:
20:18.08wasynyt-_-
20:18.16Watashiwa7ah, ok
20:18.28wasynytJigoku Shoujo Furakomori
20:18.33wasynytat the moment
20:18.54wasynytpositive series where everyone goes to hell
20:19.00Wizard:P
20:19.04Wizardi love that language
20:19.09Watashiwa7I have to search it with google
20:19.30wasynythttp://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4638
20:19.38wasynytlets speed things up
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20:20.34Watashiwa7it seems interesting
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20:20.56Watashiwa7good, good
20:21.04Watashiwa7time to download
20:21.09Wizard:P
20:21.13Watashiwa7see you later, alligators
20:21.19Wizardsee you
20:21.21Watashiwa7and thanks for all!
20:21.35Wizardi didn't help with anything, actually
20:21.35wasynytyour welcome
20:21.38wasynytheh
20:21.49Watashiwa7it isn't true :P
20:21.56Wizard:]
20:21.57Watashiwa7bye!
20:22.29Wizard.it ... so as i guessed he was some kind of anime fan ;)
20:22.37wasynytso it seems
20:22.44Wizardnot native japanese speaker
20:22.48Wizardtoo bad..
20:22.48wasynytnope
20:22.54wasynyti not either
20:22.56wasynyt:&
20:22.58keyraWizard: Elive in japanese ? make a look to http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml
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20:26.39Wizard:/
20:27.12wasynytheh
20:27.29wasynytwell i should start studying it..
20:28.16Wizardwatashi wa nihongo o benkyoshimashita.. demo nanimo wakarimasen :D
20:29.06Wizardyou should be happy that i don't have scim enabled :P
20:29.27wasynytscim ?
20:29.35Wizardamart common input method
20:29.38wasynytheh
20:30.39Wizardsmart*
20:31.03Wizarddamn.. i'm trying to write japanese and i'm having problems with typing english ;)
20:31.09wasynytheh
20:31.17keyraWizard: Elive in japanese ? make a look to http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml
20:31.39Wizardtoday i found 'last.fm'
20:31.46Wizardvery nice thing
20:31.46wasynytwhat is in ther
20:31.52wasynytreally
20:31.59Wizardmusic
20:32.04mefuyea, last.fm is great
20:32.17Hraefnoh my
20:32.18Hraefn:)
20:32.23Wizardwhat ?
20:32.27Hraefnwatch out...it'll scour your machine if you let it :)
20:32.34Hraefnjust be careful what you click
20:32.47Wizardi only use web interface
20:32.49Hraefn<---last.fm fan
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20:33.26zendulegeek juice... you there bud?
20:33.50Wizardhello zendule
20:33.57zendulehi wizard
20:34.48zenduleI installed a new sound card and think i am having driver issues... some programs work fine but when i try to run wine... wine now locks up with the new sound card
20:34.58zendulehow would i go about fixing the drivers?
20:35.13keyrazendule: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff
20:35.25zendulesush keyra lol
20:38.01Wizardzendule: wineconfig ?
20:38.10zendulewinecfg locks up
20:38.15Wizardo_O
20:38.19Wizardalsaconf ?
20:38.38zendulei tired typing that in it says file not found
20:38.59Wizardhmm.. i forgot that command, haven't use it for long time
20:39.05Wizardwasynyt: do you remember?
20:40.07wasynythuh
20:40.31wasynytdpkg reconfigure alsa
20:40.34wasynyt?
20:40.40wasynytalsamixer
20:40.45wasynyt?
20:40.57wasynytalpanels soundcard utility ?
20:41.03wasynyt*elpanels
20:41.13Wizardoh, that's good idea ;)
20:41.22zenduleyea i played with sound utility
20:41.26zenduledoesn't help
20:42.12wasynytas root
20:42.24wasynytdpkg reconfigure alsa
20:42.36wasynytor dpkg -reconfigure alsa
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20:48.09wasynytzendule: ?
20:50.05wasynytnah
20:50.10wasynyt..
20:50.11wasynyt-_-
20:52.05Hraefnhehe
20:52.05Hraefnpoor wasynyt :)
20:52.12wasynyt:(
20:52.25Hraefntry to help and he plomps off
20:52.40Hraefnyou can't win everytime
20:52.48wasynytnope
20:52.49wasynyt:D
20:54.01Hraefngosh the nets are boring on Sundays
20:54.07Hraefnthere isn't anything going on, I swear
20:54.27wasynytnope.. there is
20:54.32Hraefnapart from ridiculously slow speeds (too many file-sharers on my pipe, I think)
20:54.36wasynytthey are just hiding
20:54.37Hraefnthere is?
20:54.39HraefnLOL
20:54.49Hraefnit'll all come out tomorrow
20:54.57wasynytyup
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21:03.51Elive_user88?
21:04.04wasynytwelcome
21:04.12Elive_user88Thanks.
21:04.28Elive_user88I would like to ask a question.
21:05.17Elive_user88I am trying to install flash on the elive FireFox browser.
21:05.37wasynytit is not installed by default ?
21:05.47Elive_user88The installer keeps asking me to enter the directory where firefox is installed.
21:06.03Hraefnjust leave it blank, I think (my two pence)
21:06.12Elive_user88The live DVD had it installed, but when I installed to the Hard Drive, it did not.
21:06.13wasynytyup
21:06.21wasynytlive dvd
21:06.23wasynyt:S
21:06.28wasynytthere is no elive dvd
21:06.32Elive_user88I tried it blank but that did not work.
21:06.39Hraefnafter you do the install, run su apt-get update
21:06.41wasynyt!
21:06.50wasynytNO elive DVD
21:07.03wasynytwhere did you get it
21:07.06Hraefnerm, right...
21:07.23Elive_user88Yes the live DVD came from a British Magazine called Linux Format.
21:07.50Hraefnas in recently?
21:08.26Elive_user88I got it 2 or 3 months ago...
21:08.40Elive_user88<PROTECTED>
21:08.52wasynytrun this on terminal cat /etc/elive-version
21:09.06wasynytand paste the output
21:09.06Elive_user88Seeing that command now I do remember seeing it before...
21:10.01Elive_user88elive version - 0.6.5   2007-03-05
21:11.07HraefnE_u88: so it's not fully installed, or hanging up at that stage?
21:11.16Hraefnor do you have it on your system, but without flash?
21:11.17wasynytthat is old.. but the dev says that all elive versions have flash
21:11.33wasynythte 0.6.9 is latest dev (and that is old too)
21:11.37wasynyt*the
21:12.20Elive_user88very STRANGE...
21:12.47Elive_user88Even after running the apt-get update...  The flash player still appears NOT to be installed...
21:12.48Hraefnthis is just a hunch, but I wonder if you have to get flash separate due to copywrite law
21:12.59Elive_user88maybe...
21:13.02Hraefnas in adobe flash needs to be installed over the net, separately?
21:13.06wasynytnope.. it is default
21:13.10Hraefn'kay
21:13.12Hraefnjust wondering
21:13.15Geek_JuiceHraefn,
21:13.21Elive_user88But then why did it work fine when using the "live DVD"
21:13.26Geek_Juicehey Elive_user88
21:13.34Elive_user88hello.
21:13.39Geek_Juiceyou need a newer version
21:13.51Geek_Juicehmmm
21:13.55Elive_user88where can I get the latewst ISO ?
21:14.10wasynythead to #elivemac
21:14.16Geek_Juicego here bryanstein.info and go to the contact page
21:14.36wasynytthana is on elivemac
21:14.43wasynytso he can handle it
21:14.54wasynytElive_user88: /join #elivemac
21:15.54Geek_Juicewell that might not get him an iso as fast as I could get it to him...thana is working on things
21:16.22Geek_Juicewe are compiling a list of features and things as we speek for the next dev version
21:16.44wasynytyeah
21:16.47Geek_JuiceElive_user88, send me a message and I'll email you details like NOW
21:16.58wasynyt<wasynyt> how to check elive version
21:17.02wasynyt[23:11] <Thanatermesis> it has
21:17.06wasynyt[23:11] <Thanatermesis> cat /etc/elive-version
21:17.10wasynyt[23:15] <Thanatermesis> visit youtube and see if has it
21:17.14wasynyt[23:16] <wasynyt> nah we are having a user in #elive who has flash problem.. he/she got the elive from linux format dvd
21:17.26wasynyt[23:16] <wasynyt> it is 0.6.5
21:17.30wasynyt[23:18] <Thanatermesis> of course!
21:17.34wasynyt[23:18] <Thanatermesis> is removed
21:17.38wasynyt[23:18] <Thanatermesis> he has see a message saying THATS REMOVED
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21:17.42wasynyt[23:18] <Thanatermesis> when he has boot Elive
21:17.46wasynyt[23:18] <Thanatermesis> and the reason of why are removed
21:17.50wasynyt[23:19] <Thanatermesis> say to he to read this message and the details of HOW to have it (also all the codecs to play media)
21:17.54wasynyt[23:19] * Thanatermesis don't know why write messages if nobody read's it
21:18.02wasynytsorry for flood
21:18.02wasynytfrom thana
21:18.22Elive_user88Hey Thanks for all the help.
21:18.29Elive_user82hmm
21:18.30Elive_user88I just went to elive HomePage.
21:18.44Elive_user88There was a page that loaded the plig-flash in
21:19.03Elive_user88flash plug-in, that is...
21:21.30Geek_JuiceElive_user88, make a name if you plan on sticking around please
21:23.24wasynyt<PROTECTED>
21:24.23Geek_Juicelol you ran him off wasynyt
21:24.35Geek_Juicelol
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21:24.57wasynytwell
21:25.10Geek_Juicewell what
21:25.19wasynyti think i should not post what thana says
21:25.29wasynythe might be a little scary
21:25.35Geek_Juicelol it was funny
21:25.37mefuhehe
21:26.39PetoKrausyep, he's pretty good guy
21:26.56PetoKrausvery helpful, but when it comes to dumb questions...
21:27.01wasynytyeah
21:29.24Geek_Juicelol
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21:43.44Geek_Juicehmmm
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21:49.53Hraefnum...
21:52.18wasynytgood night people
21:52.29Geek_Juicegnighty wasynyt
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21:53.13Hraefng'night wasynyt
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