| 00:01.39 | KalvinManson | como estas? |
| 00:01.44 | unduality | hi guys! |
| 00:02.29 | unduality | Anybody here who knows how to update azureus from 2.5.0.0 to 2.0.0.4 without commiting suicide? |
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| 00:02.56 | KalvinManson | i dont |
| 00:03.06 | KalvinManson | look the suport |
| 00:03.46 | unduality | KalvinManson, yes i did, for quite some time. but i have a more general question that you might be able to answer |
| 00:04.26 | roxville | unduality, hej vad e de du vill veta? |
| 00:04.58 | KalvinManson | keyra where are you from? |
| 00:05.09 | unduality | There are like a ton of stuff that i would like to install that isnt etch, like elive, Can i istall programs that are unstable and testing in some painless way. |
| 00:05.13 | keyra | KalvinManson: argentina! |
| 00:05.23 | unduality | Nämen roxy-mannen! |
| 00:05.29 | unduality | Hej på dej! |
| 00:05.37 | KalvinManson | you speak spanish? |
| 00:05.40 | roxville | tjenare :) |
| 00:05.41 | unduality | lol |
| 00:05.49 | unduality | I spoke with roxville |
| 00:06.27 | roxville | beratta inte om hennes riktiga ursprung... |
| 00:06.27 | unduality | Hes a swedish in america as the Sting song goes.. |
| 00:06.27 | roxville | hehe |
| 00:06.57 | KalvinManson | keyra how install a Lexmark z600? |
| 00:07.39 | unduality | All software i want is newer than the ones compatible with elive. |
| 00:07.58 | KalvinManson | use wine jejejjeje |
| 00:07.59 | unduality | And i cant dist-upgrade without killing the system i heard |
| 00:09.14 | unduality | sometimes i do use wine, but for a program that i use so extensivly like dc and torrentclients mule-clients etc it isnt worth the trip. |
| 00:09.29 | keyra | unduality: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website |
| 00:09.52 | unduality | shut up keyra |
| 00:10.07 | keyra | unduality: :-# |
| 00:18.28 | roxville | <unduality> All software i want is newer than the ones compatible with elive. |
| 00:18.33 | roxville | yes... iknow |
| 00:19.09 | roxville | and... all we can do is hope that thana changes his miond and goes back to testing |
| 00:19.16 | roxville | or makes a bacjports repo |
| 00:19.21 | roxville | for certain apps |
| 00:19.31 | unduality | etch is useless |
| 00:19.52 | unduality | For the first time ever im thinking of abandoning elive. |
| 00:20.28 | unduality | Everyone i now says that it a huge embaressment that its not testing. |
| 00:20.34 | unduality | *know |
| 00:22.06 | roxville | :/ |
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| 00:23.08 | roxville | unduality, you can try to just enable the lenny repo |
| 00:23.27 | unduality | isnt that dangerous |
| 00:23.35 | roxville | of course it won't really be elive anymore, but you are proficient enough to handle those things |
| 00:23.38 | roxville | right? |
| 00:23.44 | unduality | And how is it done, hjust to enable? |
| 00:23.58 | roxville | unduality, you change the repo |
| 00:24.09 | roxville | in etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:24.23 | unduality | yeah, know that |
| 00:24.29 | unduality | I can try. |
| 00:24.40 | unduality | Just dont hope it messes things up. |
| 00:24.48 | roxville | oh it will |
| 00:25.00 | unduality | I have been warned about that once here at the irc. |
| 00:25.00 | roxville | but hopefully it won't BREAK your system :) |
| 00:25.11 | unduality | hold on got phone... |
| 00:25.25 | roxville | time to put daughter in bed, bbiab |
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| 00:45.48 | Sashi | boo |
| 00:52.25 | Ezep | O.O |
| 00:52.56 | Sashi | question here.. |
| 00:53.06 | Sashi | if i donated |
| 00:53.11 | Sashi | and new release comes out |
| 00:53.18 | Sashi | i have to donate again? |
| 00:59.28 | roxville | Sashi, the new release will be a development release... and noone pays for those |
| 01:02.37 | Sashi | k |
| 01:02.57 | unduality | roxville, its nive to hear that there will be a new dev-release roxville |
| 01:03.08 | unduality | And that its free like beer. |
| 01:03.15 | roxville | yep |
| 01:03.39 | Sashi | im dling elvie :) |
| 01:03.41 | Sashi | live* |
| 01:03.57 | roxville | :) |
| 01:05.30 | unduality | Keyras talk of the horror of torrents, gives me an windows-update feeling. that problem will be gone when all ouses dev versions. Donations is important, i have made some myself, but its not a donation anymore if someone says if you give me... for free... i give You ... back, also for free. that is a transaction. |
| 01:05.39 | roxville | of course Sashi if you donate a couple hundred dollars... i think Thanatermesis will give you a free download of the next stable as well :) |
| 01:05.45 | keyra | unduality: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website |
| 01:05.56 | unduality | Oh, there we go again... |
| 01:05.56 | roxville | lol unduality |
| 01:06.21 | elmo40 | unduality: why use azureus? when we have transmission-gtk? |
| 01:06.22 | Sashi | yea its true id say :D |
| 01:06.37 | Sashi | this distro is payware |
| 01:06.48 | Sashi | in my view a donation is optional |
| 01:07.17 | unduality | It is also a competative disadvantage compared with other free-beer distros. |
| 01:07.21 | elmo40 | Sashi: but you have to admit, with only ONE dev it is a very good distro! |
| 01:07.25 | roxville | Sashi, it is optional... it just takes a little more effort to get it |
| 01:07.40 | Sashi | one more question |
| 01:07.46 | Sashi | uhh sec |
| 01:07.47 | Sashi | lol |
| 01:07.56 | unduality | But i know it is important that thana get som money so he can live, and everyone should try to donate just a litle. |
| 01:08.06 | Sashi | gnash |
| 01:08.07 | roxville | if you come in here and are a nice person and ask nicely... you will get your iso for free |
| 01:08.11 | Sashi | will it work on flash? |
| 01:08.15 | roxville | noone is denied a copy of elive |
| 01:08.27 | Sashi | well i gave 5$ ;P |
| 01:08.38 | roxville | Sashi, flash work pretty well as far as i have seen |
| 01:08.55 | Sashi | on wine? |
| 01:09.15 | unduality | Its about priorities, not about beeing poor or rich. Im just a student myself. But i can choose if i want to buy 3 pair of jeans or two pair of jeans and support the best linux-dist around. |
| 01:09.15 | roxville | hmmm... i hope so... |
| 01:09.26 | roxville | it works well in iceweasel... |
| 01:09.40 | elmo40 | Sashi: you mean making flash stuff? |
| 01:09.56 | Sashi | yea |
| 01:10.01 | unduality | The true problem is that most people didnt see the speed, beauty and functionality of elive. |
| 01:10.05 | roxville | unduality, with the prices of levi's in sweden... that would make one helluva donation! |
| 01:10.21 | unduality | its a marketing thing. (even if i hate that word, im a leftwing) |
| 01:10.23 | Sashi | the only thing that catches my eye for elive is e17 |
| 01:10.47 | unduality | But its so much more than e17 Sashi |
| 01:11.03 | roxville | it is SEX |
| 01:11.08 | roxville | yes |
| 01:11.09 | unduality | It does everything automaticly if you want to. |
| 01:11.15 | unduality | it almost wipes my ass. |
| 01:11.17 | elmo40 | unduality: crazy left-winger... |
| 01:11.30 | unduality | And it is also highly configurably. |
| 01:11.39 | elmo40 | very |
| 01:11.52 | elmo40 | roxville: you? sex? say no more!!! |
| 01:12.03 | elmo40 | i cant tear my eyes out... the image is STILL THERE!!! :/ |
| 01:12.04 | roxville | hehe |
| 01:12.05 | unduality | Hahaha elmo40 ; classwar, classwar!! |
| 01:12.09 | unduality | Lol |
| 01:12.55 | elmo40 | roxville: ping |
| 01:12.55 | roxville | elmo40, politically, sweden and canada are pretty much on the same page |
| 01:12.55 | elmo40 | roxville: umm, no. |
| 01:12.55 | elmo40 | we are not left wingers |
| 01:12.55 | Sashi | someone update me on linux, havent used it in a LONG LONG time |
| 01:12.55 | Sashi | still need /boot? |
| 01:12.55 | elmo40 | Sashi: yes |
| 01:12.55 | roxville | elmo40, i didn't say that |
| 01:12.56 | unduality | Usually the leftwinged ones thing im to much rightwing and then the rightwinged thinks the other way around. |
| 01:12.56 | elmo40 | but not necessarily a seperate partition |
| 01:12.57 | Sashi | still only ext2? |
| 01:13.10 | elmo40 | ext3 |
| 01:13.17 | roxville | there are no real left-wingers left in sweden either |
| 01:13.18 | unduality | its about perspectives, not about right and wrong. |
| 01:13.23 | elmo40 | roxville: i see |
| 01:13.26 | roxville | not if you REALLY look into it |
| 01:13.42 | elmo40 | our left wign party has dropped to 7% |
| 01:14.05 | unduality | Depends if you speak about it in theory or in the way it is applied. |
| 01:14.26 | roxville | elmo40, sweden's left wing party is BELOW 6% |
| 01:14.43 | unduality | that is not good. |
| 01:14.46 | unduality | why? |
| 01:14.48 | roxville | probably below 5% |
| 01:15.07 | roxville | unduality, because there is no real need for it anymore |
| 01:15.13 | elmo40 | very few of them anymore... they had a majority in ONE election, got into power, stayed for 18months i think (term is 4 years) and were kicked out!! They bankrupted our province! created a $15 Billion debt! Idiots gave all their union 'buddies' super sweet contracts. |
| 01:15.24 | unduality | Because it is not good when there is to much dominance of either. |
| 01:15.35 | roxville | we have gotten most of the demands... shorter work week and all that stuff |
| 01:15.37 | unduality | Only 5 % of rightwing is not a dream either. |
| 01:15.49 | elmo40 | unduality: hell no! |
| 01:16.18 | roxville | lol elmo40 you see... there are no real left-wingers left |
| 01:16.25 | elmo40 | we need min 90% right wing to make our country go round... stupid Liberals are fc&#ing everything up. |
| 01:16.32 | roxville | and what you just stated only proves my point |
| 01:16.47 | elmo40 | but our conservatives are NOT like the yankees... |
| 01:17.08 | elmo40 | no Bush type personalities here! |
| 01:17.15 | roxville | elmo40, that's what i'm saying... sweden and canada are pretty much on the same page |
| 01:17.16 | elmo40 | ours can read & write :P |
| 01:17.45 | unduality | I think that the ideals and morals of the leftwings are superior in this time we live in, but that the creative constructive organisational part of the rightwings are very effective. |
| 01:18.09 | unduality | unfortunally they are a bit to effective to fuck up the planet right now. |
| 01:18.15 | roxville | sweden has even declined to a level below canada now... after messing up social security and health care |
| 01:18.19 | unduality | But creative they are. :-) |
| 01:18.29 | unduality | or pragmatic at least. |
| 01:18.40 | roxville | hehe |
| 01:18.48 | unduality | roxville, you are so right about that one |
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| 01:18.55 | elmo40 | unduality: ok, no 'we are killing the planet' talk... and i believe politics should be minimal (some say abolished) |
| 01:19.29 | unduality | Sweden as a model has totaly sold its soul. |
| 01:19.44 | roxville | yes |
| 01:19.50 | unduality | But people has started to think because of it. |
| 01:19.57 | unduality | Its a storm comming. |
| 01:20.03 | roxville | we'll see how much we can get for Theoden 's soul... |
| 01:20.08 | elmo40 | roxville: our health care is 'decent' but sure as hell is NOT on par with Denmark! (i think it is them... i could be wrong) |
| 01:20.48 | elmo40 | there is one country that spends a LOT on health care but actually spends it wisely! |
| 01:21.12 | Theoden | lol |
| 01:21.25 | roxville | elmo40, canada and sweden were the two LEADING nations when it comes to health care... public health care |
| 01:21.36 | elmo40 | not like us... the top brass get 50% of the funds while the 'other' workers get 40% of the funds, and the rest 10% is actually for the equipment/buildings... such a bullshit shame. |
| 01:21.45 | unduality | The most importand and neglected healthcare of all is the one that deals with the things going on between ones ears. |
| 01:21.50 | roxville | sweden introduced health insurance... american model |
| 01:22.04 | roxville | but they didn't really inform people about it |
| 01:22.06 | elmo40 | they did? |
| 01:22.09 | roxville | or very poorly |
| 01:22.14 | elmo40 | and how do you pay for it? |
| 01:22.21 | elmo40 | income tax? |
| 01:22.28 | roxville | suddenly, we had people getting turned down at hospitals... |
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| 01:22.47 | roxville | mothers ready to give birtyh got a "NO" at the door |
| 01:23.02 | unduality | In our socities we learn to be productive, and in school we learn about algebra and so on but people dont get to analyse their own thoughts, emotions and social relationships. |
| 01:23.14 | roxville | elmo40, 30-50% income tax depending on pay grade |
| 01:23.29 | unduality | And then people get SUPRISEd that the effect is that people shoot eachother in the streets. |
| 01:24.08 | roxville | yeah |
| 01:24.19 | unduality | To navigate ones mind is a much tougher ride than to govern a city. |
| 01:24.35 | unduality | But more possible |
| 01:24.40 | roxville | hehe |
| 01:24.43 | roxville | good one |
| 01:24.48 | unduality | because the city is thousands of minds |
| 01:25.11 | roxville | not sure though... charleston's public transportation is a JOKE |
| 01:25.26 | roxville | for a city with 500.000 people |
| 01:25.32 | unduality | Im working with a project about this kind of stuff right now by the way. |
| 01:26.19 | unduality | O gosh, i forgot to do something important. |
| 01:26.23 | unduality | got to run |
| 01:26.39 | unduality | Take care guys, and thanx for the chat. |
| 01:27.53 | roxville | ok unduality good night :) |
| 01:28.25 | unduality | Before i run, how to make a private message here? |
| 01:28.36 | unduality | roxville, |
| 01:28.59 | roxville | /query nick |
| 01:32.44 | elmo40 | roxville: that is our income tax range, too... 30-50 |
| 01:33.35 | roxville | sigh elmo40 ... it's what i've been saying the whole time... |
| 01:34.27 | roxville | socially, if not totally politically, canada and sweden are pretty much on the same page |
| 01:34.43 | elmo40 | we also get the same snow, right? :P |
| 01:34.59 | roxville | our hockey players are better, but they make more money in canada, so they come over...of course |
| 01:35.28 | roxville | hehe yes, the same snow |
| 01:36.09 | elmo40 | if i am in a terminal, how can i tell what the PID is for it? is there a command? |
| 01:36.20 | roxville | oh that's right... you're not big on hockey... |
| 01:36.28 | elmo40 | not me, but the rest of canada is! |
| 01:36.36 | roxville | i know :) |
| 01:36.40 | elmo40 | we have 24/7 channels devoted to that crap game... |
| 01:36.49 | roxville | elmo40, i have no idea about the PID command |
| 01:37.11 | roxville | lol |
| 01:37.31 | elmo40 | and on the radio, there is a 'Leafs breakfast, Leafs lunch, Leafs pre-game...' for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Along with a count down 'Only 10 hours until the game... blah blah' Such stupidity! |
| 01:38.36 | elmo40 | wow, alsamixer was consuming 97% CPU!!! |
| 01:38.39 | roxville | LOL |
| 01:38.51 | roxville | elmo40, are you kidding? |
| 01:38.54 | elmo40 | %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND |
| 01:38.58 | elmo40 | 97.3 0.3 288:15.23 alsamixer |
| 01:39.04 | roxville | wow! |
| 01:39.08 | roxville | that's SCARY |
| 01:39.14 | elmo40 | wtf was that time ? 288??? |
| 01:39.17 | elmo40 | minutes?? |
| 01:39.34 | roxville | i have no idea |
| 01:39.41 | elmo40 | i was wondering why my damn ass computer was so freakin sluggish! Just ran top right now :/ |
| 01:40.35 | elmo40 | and Eterm consumes more memory then urxvt :( Oh well... |
| 01:40.55 | elmo40 | are there any themes for rxvt? such as with Eterm? |
| 01:43.29 | elmo40 | why do i have so many getty's running? |
| 01:43.33 | elmo40 | 8 in total |
| 01:43.47 | roxville | lol |
| 01:43.58 | roxville | does it hurt when you pee also? |
| 01:44.18 | elmo40 | only after a LONG night of drunken sex... |
| 01:44.33 | roxville | so that wouold be a no |
| 01:45.51 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 01:46.04 | elmo40 | well, i only have 2 terms open, why so many getty's? |
| 01:46.16 | elmo40 | damn, and 5 apaches. |
| 01:46.32 | elmo40 | no one has went to my page, since it is ONLY available localhost :P |
| 01:46.38 | elmo40 | sorry, 6 apaches |
| 01:46.40 | elmo40 | hrmm |
| 01:46.43 | elmo40 | need to tone down some things |
| 01:46.58 | LinuxNIT | the gettys are the teminal prompts on cntrl+alt+F1 through F8 |
| 01:47.12 | elmo40 | they are always there? |
| 01:47.18 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 01:47.28 | elmo40 | but i only have alt+f4 maximum... |
| 01:47.37 | elmo40 | oh, ctrl+alt... |
| 01:48.02 | elmo40 | kjournald, keyboard journal? |
| 01:49.00 | elmo40 | hrmm, odd... xorg has been running for 27:44.81, while enlightenment only for 9:20.45 |
| 01:49.16 | elmo40 | it doesnt stop counting when screen saver kicks in, does it? |
| 01:49.32 | roxville | no idea |
| 01:49.37 | roxville | did you restart e? |
| 01:49.49 | elmo40 | maybe. |
| 01:49.55 | roxville | lol |
| 01:50.08 | elmo40 | nope, doesnt change anything |
| 01:50.15 | elmo40 | still counting from 9:20 |
| 01:51.35 | roxville | well... e17 is not like other window managers... |
| 01:51.43 | roxville | :D |
| 01:51.52 | elmo40 | so it seems |
| 01:52.34 | elmo40 | damn, two links2 apps were running! |
| 01:52.40 | elmo40 | i dont recal starting them... |
| 01:52.45 | elmo40 | weird, i tellz ya |
| 01:53.17 | roxville | maybe during one of those drunken sex nights.... |
| 02:00.37 | elmo40 | ya, maybe... |
| 02:01.19 | roxville | :) |
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| 02:07.25 | roxville | wb Theoden :) |
| 02:07.56 | Theoden | thx roxville |
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| 02:23.14 | elmo40 | does anyone know the default font for urxvt? |
| 02:27.04 | roxville | nope, sorry |
| 02:28.08 | roxville | elmo40, http://linux.die.net/man/1/urxvt |
| 02:29.12 | roxville | scroll down just a little bit |
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| 02:54.06 | elmo40 | i tried all that |
| 02:55.04 | elmo40 | is there even a rxvtrc file? or .conf file? |
| 02:55.07 | elmo40 | i cant find any... |
| 02:55.17 | elmo40 | where are the default settings for this app? |
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| 02:57.17 | mathesis | se Thanatermesis |
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| 03:05.00 | Elive_user68 | ahh |
| 03:05.01 | Elive_user68 | :D |
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| 04:06.50 | velixzeen | keyra: are you here? |
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| 04:19.48 | velixzeen | hello roxville, how goes? |
| 04:20.02 | roxville | hi velixzeen :) |
| 04:20.15 | roxville | i'm pretty good, how are you doing, buddy? |
| 04:20.34 | velixzeen | fine here too. |
| 04:20.53 | velixzeen | how is Gem doing these days? Any news? |
| 04:22.29 | roxville | not really |
| 04:22.42 | roxville | thana has started working on the new dev release |
| 04:22.58 | roxville | he has not yet used the NEW e17 so... lots to do :) |
| 04:24.13 | roxville | locales: |
| 04:24.14 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.26 | velixzeen | I see, that is cool. Ah, I can't keep up with the e17 stuff. I am newbie to both e17 and e16 :-) |
| 04:24.41 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:25.07 | roxville | oops paste in wrong channel :) |
| 04:25.50 | velixzeen | ah, ok, was wondering ;-) |
| 04:26.43 | velixzeen | Finally installed Gem here at home, for wife's machine. |
| 04:27.16 | roxville | and? it runs ok? |
| 04:27.47 | velixzeen | Yes, excellent. That professor (astronomy/physics) still uses it on his laptop. |
| 04:28.01 | velixzeen | He is still very impressed. |
| 04:28.53 | velixzeen | Wants it on his desktop now too. |
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| 04:29.29 | Sashi | hey hey |
| 04:29.29 | velixzeen | I sent Thana a small donation, hope there are still some donations coming in to help. |
| 04:29.43 | Sashi | i need help with themes |
| 04:30.04 | Sashi | i put the .edj in ~/.e/e/themes |
| 04:30.09 | Sashi | thats right? right? |
| 04:32.04 | velixzeen | Sashi: sorry I cannot help or I would. I'm too green on e17. |
| 04:32.53 | velixzeen | I think you have to check if the theme works on with the version of e17 though?? |
| 04:33.07 | Sashi | well it doesnt even show up |
| 04:33.49 | roxville | velixzeen, that's awesome |
| 04:34.00 | velixzeen | I seem to recall something about the fast pace of e17 causing themes to get stale and not work. |
| 04:34.06 | velixzeen | :-) |
| 04:34.36 | roxville | Sashi, the themes you can install in elive'as current version of e17, are all available via synaptic |
| 04:34.49 | roxville | just scroll down to the elive section |
| 04:34.51 | keyra | roxville: "apt-cache search e17 theme" and "apt-get install packagename" to install it |
| 04:35.05 | Sashi | no but there are custom ones |
| 04:35.06 | Sashi | out there |
| 04:35.32 | roxville | the new themes for the new e17... at... get-e.org... are NOT compatiable with your e17 version...and do not even show up |
| 04:35.44 | Sashi | not at get-e |
| 04:35.59 | roxville | or e170stuff.org |
| 04:36.08 | roxville | e17-stuff.org |
| 04:36.15 | Sashi | why not? |
| 04:38.36 | roxville | because e17 has been in VERY heavy development lately... and they have changed a LOT of things... drastically |
| 04:39.07 | Sashi | well at least i found one theme i liked |
| 04:39.12 | Sashi | slate |
| 04:39.13 | Sashi | :D |
| 04:39.20 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:39.37 | Sashi | << likes dark themes yet not too dark that you cant see anything |
| 04:39.44 | roxville | Sashi, in the next dev release, the new e17 will be default |
| 04:40.01 | roxville | then you can install themes till the cows come home |
| 04:40.19 | velixzeen | slate sounds interesting, is there a screenshot? I like the dark, not too dark stuff too. |
| 04:40.31 | Sashi | err wtf? |
| 04:40.37 | Sashi | i cant exit filemanger |
| 04:40.44 | Sashi | its called filemanger right? |
| 04:41.07 | roxville | filemanager |
| 04:41.12 | velixzeen | thunar? |
| 04:41.19 | roxville | yes thunar |
| 04:41.34 | Sashi | k thx |
| 04:41.54 | Sashi | is it me or is slate broken |
| 04:42.39 | roxville | Sashi, cthulhain is a dark-not-too-dark theme i use a lot |
| 04:42.58 | Sashi | yea i like it but the menus |
| 04:43.00 | Sashi | are ugly |
| 04:43.01 | Sashi | :P |
| 04:43.13 | roxville | lol ok |
| 04:43.20 | Sashi | and carbon is TOO dark |
| 04:43.25 | roxville | anyway... i gotta get in bed |
| 04:43.38 | roxville | see you guys next time :) |
| 04:43.51 | roxville | yeah carbon is too dark i agree |
| 04:44.01 | roxville | good night :) |
| 04:45.06 | velixzeen | n8 roxville |
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| 04:46.17 | Sashi | o right.. |
| 04:46.21 | Sashi | i cant get audio to work |
| 04:46.22 | Sashi | T.T |
| 04:49.59 | velixzeen | does cat /dev/urandon > /dev/dsp give some hissing? |
| 04:50.13 | Sashi | sec |
| 04:50.31 | Sashi | nope |
| 04:50.51 | velixzeen | just in case, try as root? |
| 04:51.10 | Sashi | nope still nothing |
| 04:51.16 | velixzeen | k |
| 04:51.45 | velixzeen | my guess is the modules are not loading. is this a new install? |
| 04:51.54 | Sashi | yea fresh installation |
| 04:52.08 | Sashi | i finished customizing |
| 04:52.14 | Sashi | now its for function |
| 04:52.32 | velixzeen | I would run alsaconf as root. have you run that yet? |
| 04:52.45 | Sashi | yep many times |
| 04:53.14 | velixzeen | k |
| 04:53.42 | velixzeen | does alsaconf find the device? |
| 04:53.44 | Sashi | yea |
| 04:53.44 | velixzeen | sound device? |
| 04:53.53 | Sashi | using ice1724 |
| 04:55.02 | velixzeen | does lsmod show some snd modules? soundcore? |
| 04:55.30 | Sashi | yea |
| 04:55.31 | Sashi | lots |
| 04:56.43 | velixzeen | is the mixer volume up (not muted)? sorry, have to ask |
| 04:56.53 | Sashi | yes its up.. lol |
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| 04:57.54 | velixzeen | what the heck, could this just be permissions then? Are you in the audio group? |
| 04:58.54 | Sashi | mmm how do i add? or even check? |
| 04:59.07 | velixzeen | type in groups to list |
| 04:59.18 | Sashi | yea im in audio |
| 04:59.28 | velixzeen | k |
| 05:01.22 | velixzeen | cat /proc/interrupts should show sound device interrupt, I vaguely recall one situation where all was happy, but no interrupt=no sound |
| 05:01.48 | velixzeen | see anything like that ice1724 there? |
| 05:01.54 | Sashi | yea |
| 05:02.21 | Sashi | or i can just go and get my usb sound card :D |
| 05:03.00 | velixzeen | I have boxes at work that have disappearing sound. I have yet to determine the problem. But |
| 05:03.14 | keyra | velixzeen: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 05:03.31 | Sashi | hmm ill restart? |
| 05:03.49 | velixzeen | in desperation, I boot a live cd (whatever distro) play a sound, shut down, boot debian, and it all works. |
| 05:04.31 | velixzeen | It's like the resources for the card get messed up, and booting from cd straightens it out. |
| 05:04.40 | Sashi | oo wow |
| 05:04.42 | Sashi | now it works |
| 05:04.54 | velixzeen | how fix?? |
| 05:05.00 | Sashi | i did nothing |
| 05:05.09 | Sashi | amsn "helped" |
| 05:05.30 | velixzeen | amsn? |
| 05:05.43 | Sashi | i have no idea.. dont ask lol |
| 05:05.50 | Sashi | now i need surround to work |
| 05:06.10 | velixzeen | heh, me covers eyes |
| 05:06.48 | Sashi | well i know the USB Zalman sound card will work |
| 05:07.45 | velixzeen | k, well, hard to see what was wrong. ghost in the machine . . . |
| 05:12.07 | velixzeen | night, have to go .. . sleep. |
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| 05:49.47 | sashi | ahhh |
| 05:49.49 | sashi | i need help |
| 05:49.51 | sashi | asap |
| 05:49.54 | sashi | :D |
| 05:49.56 | sashi | anyone here? |
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| 05:58.21 | Bryanstein | hey sashi |
| 05:58.34 | Bryanstein | what kind of name is sashi ? |
| 05:58.50 | Bryanstein | Eastern? |
| 05:58.52 | Bryanstein | Indian |
| 05:58.55 | Bryanstein | ? |
| 05:59.08 | Bryanstein | sashi, you alive? |
| 06:00.21 | sashi | yea? |
| 06:00.23 | sashi | i need help |
| 06:00.33 | sashi | im in irssi atm |
| 06:00.39 | sashi | i wanna get into login |
| 06:01.04 | sashi | entrance says success but kicks me back |
| 06:01.21 | sashi | enlightnement says screen not configured |
| 06:01.29 | sashi | but i was in E17 like 20mis ago |
| 06:01.33 | sashi | i rebooted and now this.. |
| 06:01.47 | Bryanstein | hmmm |
| 06:01.50 | Bryanstein | sashi, |
| 06:02.55 | Bryanstein | sashi, |
| 06:02.56 | Bryanstein | what did you do before you logged out ? |
| 06:02.56 | sashi | nothing.. much |
| 06:02.58 | sashi | just configured sound card |
| 06:03.21 | Bryanstein | which e17 the new one? |
| 06:03.26 | Bryanstein | you have tests enabled? |
| 06:03.37 | sashi | new one? |
| 06:03.40 | sashi | i have gem... |
| 06:04.18 | Bryanstein | well...try to restart entrance |
| 06:04.30 | Bryanstein | from the command line just to see if that works |
| 06:04.37 | sashi | i did.. doesnt work |
| 06:05.16 | Bryanstein | and all you did was configure the sound card? |
| 06:05.22 | Bryanstein | hmmm |
| 06:05.42 | Bryanstein | check your xorg...something is not good...entrance works though ? |
| 06:05.47 | Bryanstein | you see entrance |
| 06:06.01 | Bryanstein | but when you try to login...what happens? |
| 06:06.06 | Bryanstein | it goes back to entrance? |
| 06:06.16 | sashi | no.. |
| 06:06.21 | sashi | i have no GUI at all |
| 06:07.06 | Bryanstein | so does it flash 3 times? |
| 06:07.13 | Bryanstein | and kick you back to the command line ? |
| 06:07.14 | sashi | yae |
| 06:07.24 | Bryanstein | well that is an xorg issue |
| 06:07.42 | sashi | and how can i fix it? |
| 06:08.02 | Bryanstein | do this type "/newserver irc.bryanstein.info" |
| 06:08.11 | Bryanstein | when you get in there /join #elive |
| 06:08.24 | Bryanstein | and show me the whole xorg in the channel |
| 06:09.09 | sashi | nvm i fixed it |
| 06:09.53 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 06:09.57 | Bryanstein | what was it ? |
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| 06:11.34 | Bryanstein | Sashi, |
| 06:11.36 | Bryanstein | what was it ? |
| 06:11.54 | Sashi | xorg.conf, default depth was 32 for some odd reason |
| 06:11.58 | Bryanstein | i was going to have you show me your whole xorg setup |
| 06:12.14 | Bryanstein | ok well good you got it |
| 06:12.33 | Sashi | other than xorg and stuff |
| 06:12.38 | Sashi | im good at linux lol |
| 06:12.44 | Sashi | << not a xorg guru |
| 06:13.54 | Bryanstein | I see....most users don't know what irssi is |
| 06:14.08 | Bryanstein | or have the guts to use it when the gui fails |
| 06:14.23 | Sashi | lol |
| 06:14.33 | Sashi | CLI is the only way you can fix the GUI |
| 06:14.50 | Bryanstein | yes |
| 06:15.10 | Bryanstein | is Sashi your real name ? |
| 06:15.18 | Sashi | no |
| 06:16.02 | Bryanstein | you are a female right? |
| 06:16.12 | Sashi | no lol |
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| 06:16.57 | Bryanstein | Antmanx2, hey |
| 06:17.03 | Antmanx2 | howdy howdy |
| 06:17.18 | Sashi | ARGH |
| 06:17.25 | Sashi | i cant get surround sound to work |
| 06:17.26 | Sashi | zzz |
| 06:17.32 | Sashi | in ubuntu it worked fine |
| 06:17.55 | Antmanx2 | what sound card you have sashi? |
| 06:18.16 | Sashi | chaintech av710 and usb zalman |
| 06:19.35 | Antmanx2 | have you tried researching google cus i remember reading something about souround sound and it working but there is more then one volume adjustment for it (front sides etc) |
| 06:20.25 | Sashi | i have tried |
| 06:20.45 | Antmanx2 | search the alsa website? |
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| 06:24.00 | Sashi | well.. |
| 06:24.01 | Bryanstein | Sashi, |
| 06:24.07 | Sashi | theres like fuzzy sounds |
| 06:24.07 | Bryanstein | you have to play around in the mixer |
| 06:24.11 | Sashi | in my |
| 06:24.11 | Bryanstein | it should work |
| 06:24.14 | Sashi | center and back |
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| 06:31.38 | Sashi | soo annoying |
| 06:36.16 | Antmanx2 | alsa website is good to see if others are having same prob |
| 06:42.56 | Antmanx2 | bryan i got all of them bonus disks Thanatermesis put out... lol so many games ... like a kid at christmass |
| 06:43.09 | Antmanx2 | and that new sound card i got works great no more problems with sound |
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| 06:45.27 | Sashi | Antmanx2 |
| 06:45.32 | Sashi | surround sound? |
| 06:45.57 | Antmanx2 | no i was having problems where i couldn't hear 2 programs at one time that used the alsa drivers |
| 06:49.01 | Antmanx2 | but as i was looking how to fix my problem i came accross many articles with souround sound |
| 06:52.01 | Sashi | yea i dont think surround sound will work// |
| 06:52.04 | Sashi | o well |
| 06:52.05 | Antmanx2 | how come scroll lock doesn't work in linux? |
| 06:53.56 | Antmanx2 | brb |
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| 07:14.09 | Antmanx2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:44.33 | wasynyt | good morning people |
| 07:45.43 | Sashi | hiya |
| 07:46.02 | Sashi | how do you paste into eterm? |
| 07:46.20 | wasynyt | use mouse middle button |
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| 07:46.53 | Sashi | o right |
| 07:46.54 | Sashi | hehe |
| 07:46.58 | wasynyt | :D |
| 07:47.01 | Sashi | im used to xterm |
| 07:47.07 | Sashi | shift ctrl insert |
| 07:47.14 | wasynyt | heh |
| 07:48.17 | Sashi | elive, fastest e17 distro ive seen |
| 07:51.42 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 07:51.52 | wasynyt | and wait for when the new dev version comes |
| 07:51.55 | wasynyt | ;D |
| 07:52.01 | wasynyt | it will get even better |
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| 09:06.07 | wasynyt | nah gotta go to school |
| 09:06.15 | wasynyt | see you later |
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| 11:51.44 | elmo40 | wasynyt: snow? |
| 11:52.34 | elmo40 | only rain here |
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| 12:28.05 | assasukasse | wasynyt: what happened in tuusula |
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| 13:22.50 | roxville | assasukasse, i think it is finlands first school shooting |
| 13:24.07 | roxville | an 18 year old student has taken hostages... shot and killed the principal and wounded at least 3 people |
| 13:32.09 | roxville | wonder how that will affect his grades... |
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| 13:52.14 | assasukasse | probably he will get an A is weapon applicated :D |
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| 14:01.40 | Elive_user13 | I'm sorry for disturbing... Can someone help me with keyboard layout in eLive?? |
| 14:15.36 | FossZombie | Now cows even are starting suicide attacks, http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN0760029520071107?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews |
| 14:15.46 | FossZombie | bovine terrorism |
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| 16:22.08 | assasuka | sftpquit |
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| 16:44.02 | wasynyt | WHAT THE FUCK |
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| 16:52.25 | roxville | wasynyt, i apologize... it is a horrible tragedy |
| 16:52.49 | roxville | i had to say something like that in order to get some distance to it |
| 16:53.31 | wasynyt | true |
| 16:53.37 | roxville | i could have kept it to mayself, though |
| 16:54.16 | wasynyt | but apology accepted ;D |
| 16:54.26 | roxville | thank you |
| 16:54.34 | roxville | i appreciate that |
| 16:55.49 | wasynyt | .. |
| 16:57.00 | roxville | wow wasynyt i just saw... SEVEN people killed so far! |
| 16:57.03 | roxville | omg... |
| 16:57.10 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 16:57.12 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 16:57.17 | roxville | when i wrote that, only the dean had been killed |
| 16:57.26 | roxville | good lord... |
| 16:57.44 | roxville | wtf does this guy think he is? |
| 16:57.57 | wasynyt | no idea |
| 16:58.41 | roxville | well... i wasn't really expecting an answer... |
| 16:59.16 | wasynyt | http://www.hs.fi/kaupunki/artikkeli/Lukiolaismies+jätti+verkkoon+runsaasti+tietoa+tulevasta+hyökkäyksestä/1135231616169 <- hope you can understand a little bit |
| 16:59.32 | roxville | dagens nyheter is staying updated |
| 17:00.09 | roxville | this siye loads very slowly now |
| 17:00.20 | roxville | they may have a DOS or something soon |
| 17:00.35 | wasynyt | works well for me |
| 17:00.47 | roxville | i got it... just a tad slow |
| 17:00.54 | roxville | prolly coz of traffic |
| 17:02.07 | wasynyt | 11 injured |
| 17:02.15 | roxville | wow |
| 17:02.28 | wasynyt | 8 died |
| 17:02.41 | roxville | 8 now... |
| 17:02.47 | roxville | wow |
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| 17:04.12 | Elive_user6 | como puedo ponerle los efectos a elive |
| 17:04.26 | wasynyt | apt x es en como puedo ponerle los efectos a elive |
| 17:05.00 | Elive_user6 | si porfavor |
| 17:05.18 | roxville | Elive_user6, no comprendo |
| 17:05.40 | roxville | egrub, hombre... estas? |
| 17:05.53 | Elive_user6 | es lo que se mueve es desktop |
| 17:06.03 | Elive_user6 | soy erick por sierto |
| 17:06.16 | roxville | apt x es en es lo que se mueve es desktop |
| 17:06.32 | roxville | apt x es en es soy erick por sierto |
| 17:06.45 | Elive_user6 | yes |
| 17:07.18 | roxville | erick ... co comprendo, sorry |
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| 17:07.23 | Theoden | Morning |
| 17:07.32 | roxville | morning Theoden |
| 17:07.38 | Elive_user6 | ok |
| 17:07.53 | Elive_user6 | quiero inventar |
| 17:07.58 | Elive_user6 | un virus |
| 17:08.00 | Elive_user6 | fuerte |
| 17:08.03 | Elive_user6 | pero |
| 17:08.06 | Elive_user6 | no |
| 17:08.13 | Elive_user6 | se que lenguaje aprender |
| 17:08.31 | roxville | we have people who speak spanish... but not right now |
| 17:10.50 | wasynyt | good evening Theoden |
| 17:10.56 | Theoden | Hey wasynyt |
| 17:11.02 | Theoden | Como esta? |
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| 17:11.48 | Theoden | See? He didn't really want to talk Spanish. :-) |
| 17:13.02 | nax | como puedo ponerle kde a elive |
| 17:13.09 | Theoden | Now he DOES! |
| 17:13.09 | Theoden | lol |
| 17:13.58 | nax | como puedo ponerle los efectos a elive |
| 17:15.13 | nax | what your name |
| 17:15.19 | nax | plis |
| 17:15.23 | nax | men |
| 17:15.40 | wasynyt | timo |
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| 17:29.31 | ggordon | think what he was asking in Spanish was how to get special effects on Elive....like fusion and compiz probably |
| 17:30.31 | ggordon | lunchtime here :) |
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| 18:11.38 | assasuka | Thanatermesis: do u have entrance_edit_gui? |
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| 19:33.19 | RudiKuin | assasuka, we were talking yesterday about upgrading Inkscape from 0.4.4 to 0.4.5, you told me to download the package and 'build' it |
| 19:34.04 | RudiKuin | would you be able to guide mne through step by step? |
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| 19:41.00 | Aicart | Buenas |
| 19:41.05 | Aicart | Hello |
| 19:41.16 | Aicart | Hombre si está Thanatermesis |
| 19:41.17 | Aicart | xD |
| 19:42.50 | PrinceAMD | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/PrinceAMD/2007-11-07-152531_1024x768_scrot.png screenshot |
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| 19:43.12 | Aicart | it looks nice PrinceAMD |
| 19:44.16 | PrinceAMD | Aicart, thanks :) |
| 19:44.30 | assasuka | RudiKuin: |
| 19:44.34 | assasuka | yup |
| 19:45.17 | RudiKuin | Hi assasuka I already tried ./configure, but it gives an error already.. |
| 19:46.20 | assasuka | RudiKuin: get this http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/inkscape |
| 19:47.15 | assasuka | hold on |
| 19:47.19 | assasuka | this is already built |
| 19:47.21 | assasuka | so no use |
| 19:47.31 | RudiKuin | okay I will, although the comaandline asks for XML::Parser perlmodule for inltool |
| 19:48.03 | assasuka | ok get this http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/inkscape.html |
| 19:48.09 | assasuka | the orig file and the diff one |
| 19:49.24 | assasuka | then patch the original wth this command patch -p1 < filediff.diff |
| 19:49.34 | assasuka | where filediff is your diff patch |
| 19:49.46 | assasuka | once u have done this install the dependancies |
| 19:51.14 | assasuka | then is just a fast way, edit the debian files in case is needed |
| 19:51.22 | assasuka | then dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| 19:51.26 | RudiKuin | Whohoho, too much info is passed to me now assasuka what is diff patch |
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| 19:51.56 | RudiKuin | I'll try the commands first, do I need to unpack first? |
| 19:52.01 | assasuka | yup |
| 19:53.35 | RudiKuin | okay hold on, need to unpack and try the commands you gave, be back in a few minutes... |
| 19:53.43 | assasuka | RudiKuin: maybe there is an easier way |
| 19:53.50 | assasuka | i am just asking in debian |
| 19:54.12 | RudiKuin | okay let me know if you know... |
| 19:55.47 | assasuka | oki RudiKuin open synaptic |
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| 19:56.29 | RudiKuin | do I need to move the diff file into THE iNKSCAPE FOLDER FIRST??? |
| 19:56.52 | RudiKuin | Synaptic is opened.. |
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| 19:57.44 | assasuka | RudiKuin: read my query |
| 19:57.55 | RudiKuin | I will |
| 19:58.29 | RudiKuin | will you type the query here? |
| 19:58.34 | assasuka | <dpkg> First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
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| 19:58.54 | assasuka | this way is even faster than what i did |
| 19:59.24 | RudiKuin | no backports found yesterday... |
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| 20:01.19 | RudiKuin | Number one I don't understand, 2, 3 no problem of coiurse |
| 20:01.33 | assasuka | Rudikuin do this, open synaptics |
| 20:01.34 | RudiKuin | of course... typo's! |
| 20:02.00 | assasuka | click on settings, repositories |
| 20:02.00 | assasuka | click on new |
| 20:02.00 | assasuka | select deb-src |
| 20:02.47 | RudiKuin | okay... |
| 20:03.29 | assasuka | copy your repository on the first line (http:blablabla) |
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| 20:03.35 | assasuka | on the second line write sid |
| 20:03.53 | RudiKuin | in the distributionline? |
| 20:04.07 | assasuka | on the third one: main contrib non-free |
| 20:04.13 | assasuka | in the distribution line write sid |
| 20:04.34 | assasuka | it is IMPORTANT that u check that u selected DEB-SRC and not binary |
| 20:04.39 | assasuka | otherwise your system will die |
| 20:04.49 | RudiKuin | okay, done, but no URI line? |
| 20:05.02 | assasuka | url copy from the one u currently use |
| 20:05.38 | assasuka | i use http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ |
| 20:05.41 | RudiKuin | there are about six seven url's on this list... |
| 20:05.44 | assasuka | but maybe u use a localized one |
| 20:05.52 | RudiKuin | Ah Okay... |
| 20:06.04 | assasuka | then u are set |
| 20:06.10 | RudiKuin | thx, I'll go on with this then just a sec |
| 20:06.33 | assasuka | and u can continue this guide, even if i have not tried it and i went the long way, it is much more rationale than the way i followed |
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| 20:13.01 | assasuka | RudiKuin: if u want things that work more sure |
| 20:13.08 | assasuka | u can use lenny instead of sid |
| 20:13.42 | RudiKuin | WHo were Lenny and Sid, which gave the names to these streams? |
| 20:14.22 | wasynyt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian |
| 20:14.36 | keyra | wasynyt: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 20:14.52 | wasynyt | yup |
| 20:14.53 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:15.07 | wasynyt | apt give keyra beer |
| 20:15.08 | apt | ACTION gives beer to keyra |
| 20:15.22 | keyra | wasynyt: hic! |
| 20:15.50 | wasynyt | read the wiki if you want to know more about those names |
| 20:15.51 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:16.32 | RudiKuin | assasuka, I've got an error on update: specificly on Inkscape: Unable to determine source package |
| 20:16.48 | assasuka | uhm strange |
| 20:17.01 | assasuka | what did u do |
| 20:17.05 | assasuka | apt-get update? |
| 20:17.12 | assasuka | it shouldnt give any error |
| 20:17.37 | RudiKuin | yes I did apt-get update |
| 20:18.25 | RudiKuin | then: apt-get build-dep inkscape;apt-get -b source inkscape |
| 20:18.26 | wasynyt | typo in source.lst ? |
| 20:18.29 | assasuka | and gave u error? |
| 20:18.34 | assasuka | probably an error |
| 20:19.13 | assasuka | are u sure the package is called inkscape only? |
| 20:19.27 | assasuka | are u sure u didnt put a space too much after apt-get? |
| 20:19.51 | RudiKuin | yes it filled in the versionnumber itself... |
| 20:21.31 | assasuka | RudiKuin: then i dunno, it should work really |
| 20:22.09 | RudiKuin | well, I guess it's a no go for inkscape for now |
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| 20:22.54 | assasuka | RudiKuin: why dont u come to debian and ask the big brained boys :D |
| 20:23.15 | rabe | lo |
| 20:23.28 | rabe | in debian channel they act weird |
| 20:23.31 | RudiKuin | i can do that, what the url? |
| 20:25.22 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.22 | RudiKuin | rabe, why is that? |
| 20:25.43 | rabe | they answer questions with askeing question they wnt to show how smart they are |
| 20:25.44 | assasuka | just dont tell u use elive :D |
| 20:25.49 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:25.56 | rabe | lol |
| 20:25.57 | assasuka | or they will say you are doing blasphemy |
| 20:26.02 | RudiKuin | lol |
| 20:26.03 | wasynyt | better yet is to mention you like *buntu |
| 20:26.07 | assasuka | and your pewee will fall down |
| 20:26.14 | rabe | they will say : we dont support elive |
| 20:26.22 | assasuka | if u say u use ubuntu, they will start the vodoo on your |
| 20:26.24 | assasuka | pc |
| 20:26.31 | RudiKuin | i'm quite comfortable with elive |
| 20:26.33 | rabe | this is a debian channel we are all so smart here we love each other and no one else |
| 20:26.46 | rabe | lol |
| 20:26.50 | rabe | :) |
| 20:28.58 | rabe | why do you need to ask them for help |
| 20:29.08 | rabe | ask keyra |
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| 20:29.15 | assasuka | LOL |
| 20:29.17 | rabe | she can answer evrythink |
| 20:30.05 | wasynyt | keyra ubuntu |
| 20:30.43 | assasuka | wasynyt: keyra left |
| 20:30.49 | assasuka | said too much ubuntu |
| 20:30.53 | wasynyt | hmm so it seems |
| 20:32.43 | rabe | she is jealous cause you are talking abot ubuntu |
| 20:33.05 | wasynyt | hmmm |
| 20:33.08 | wasynyt | no need to be |
| 20:33.17 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:33.19 | rabe | :) |
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| 20:33.29 | assasuka | i like ubuntu |
| 20:33.33 | assasuka | it SIMPLY works |
| 20:33.48 | assasuka | and is damn optimized |
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| 20:33.55 | assasuka | but is heavy like a sick elephant |
| 20:34.00 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:34.06 | rabe | lol |
| 20:34.14 | rabe | xubuntu is lighter |
| 20:34.20 | assasuka | rabe xubuntu is lamer.. |
| 20:34.22 | assasuka | i mean |
| 20:34.24 | rabe | lol |
| 20:34.34 | assasuka | they made it use xfce and 100% gnome apps |
| 20:34.40 | assasuka | so..u save 10mb ram for the wm |
| 20:34.42 | rabe | yes |
| 20:34.42 | assasuka | only >D |
| 20:34.46 | assasuka | what's the point |
| 20:35.05 | rabe | the xfce desktop is nicer maybe |
| 20:35.18 | assasuka | uhm...i prefer gnome u know...has many nice stuffs |
| 20:35.29 | assasuka | xfce i used, but...simply lacks some stuffs |
| 20:35.43 | assasuka | if i have to stay light, then fluxbox |
| 20:35.46 | assasuka | or openbox.. |
| 20:36.01 | rabe | yes fluxbox is nice |
| 20:36.25 | rabe | but there will be still need for gnome application or ? |
| 20:37.19 | assasuka | yup |
| 20:37.25 | assasuka | but it save much more ram :D |
| 20:38.08 | RudiKuin | assasuka, rabe I'm off now... I need to pik up some sleep I missed yesterday night. |((( |
| 20:38.21 | rabe | good night than |
| 20:38.30 | RudiKuin | That's a sleepy head with saggy eyes... :D |
| 20:38.35 | rabe | :) |
| 20:38.37 | RudiKuin | bye |
| 20:38.40 | rabe | bye |
| 20:39.11 | rabe | at the moment i use elive and im very happy with it |
| 20:39.25 | rabe | you guys did realy good work |
| 20:40.18 | assasuka | :D |
| 20:40.22 | assasuka | goodnite |
| 20:40.49 | wasynyt | you going too ? |
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| 20:47.42 | assasuka | nope |
| 20:47.44 | assasuka | i am still here |
| 20:47.51 | assasuka | trying to make the winmodem work |
| 20:48.35 | wasynyt | you seem to like challenges |
| 20:58.21 | assasuka | where do i get the kernel headers for elive kernel??? |
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| 21:04.33 | assasuka | Thanatermesis: i have problems building a kernel module for elive, since i cant find the kernel headers |
| 21:04.38 | assasuka | do u have any suggestion? |
| 21:04.52 | assasuka | i need to install via module assistant sl-modem |
| 21:04.58 | assasuka | but seems i cant do it.. |
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| 21:12.17 | wasynyt | the current elive kernel is messed up |
| 21:16.46 | elmo40 | wasynyt: current. as in what? |
| 21:16.58 | elmo40 | 2.6.18-elive |
| 21:16.59 | elmo40 | ? |
| 21:17.05 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 21:17.13 | elmo40 | how so? |
| 21:17.24 | wasynyt | the kernel headers/source seems to be somehow borken |
| 21:17.32 | wasynyt | and thana knows this too |
| 21:18.21 | assasuka | aww |
| 21:18.31 | assasuka | that means until he fixes it i wont be able to build modules.. |
| 21:18.47 | wasynyt | new kernel will be in next dev release |
| 21:19.22 | assasuka | wasynyt: woa, that is a big thing, kernel-header bork is somewhat a big problem :D no modules can be built at all |
| 21:19.32 | assasuka | wasynyt: if they hear this in debian they will eat us >D |
| 21:19.37 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:19.52 | elmo40 | :/ |
| 21:19.58 | wasynyt | well there have been some issues when people have tried to compile drivers |
| 21:19.59 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 21:20.25 | elmo40 | but shouldnt a winmodem already work? |
| 21:20.28 | assasuka | then at now, i have really to wait..cant do much.. |
| 21:20.33 | assasuka | elmo40: unfortunately doesnt |
| 21:20.37 | wasynyt | yeah |
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| 21:22.20 | elmo40 | yeah what? it should work? |
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| 21:26.11 | assasuka | well, i think, even if is not compiled, in the worst situation i can compile myself.. |
| 21:26.18 | assasuka | but seems i cant do |
| 21:26.37 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 21:26.53 | wasynyt | but now i need some sleep |
| 21:26.59 | wasynyt | see you later peopel |
| 21:27.03 | assasuka | goodnite wasynyt |
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| 21:38.06 | elmo40 | would be nice if Elive came with a (much) newer version of gnumeric! |
| 21:43.00 | elmo40 | well, i guess i mean the dev version... since Elive comes with stable, i suppose that is good enough... lol |
| 21:43.17 | elmo40 | i dare take the leap to 'testing' |
| 21:43.38 | elmo40 | assasukasse: did you only change the elive repo to tests? or did you also change the debian repos to testing? |
| 21:43.52 | keyra | elmo40: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 21:46.09 | elmo40 | blah keyra |
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| 22:23.26 | assasukasse | elmo40: only elive |
| 22:24.28 | elmo40 | did you change to testing in debian afterwards? |
| 22:24.31 | elmo40 | or still in etch? |
| 22:25.50 | rabe | good night all |
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| 23:01.37 | assasukasse | elmo40: still etch |
| 23:01.46 | assasukasse | but i have backported a few packages :D |
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| 23:15.47 | Elive_user22 | good night i have a problem with cinelerra when i want to open it by terminal i have this message X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) can you tell me what can i do please |
| 23:16.01 | keyra | Elive_user22: cinelerra r0cks! |
| 23:17.29 | Elive_user22 | oh excuse me but i'm french i don't see what is rocks |
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| 23:34.17 | Sashi | question |
| 23:34.26 | Sashi | should i keep elive's default kernel? |
| 23:34.37 | Sashi | or is it better to compile debians and use that? |
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| 23:58.51 | elmo40 | Sashi: it doesnt matter, i dont think ;) |
| 23:59.00 | elmo40 | kernel smernel... build brand new! |
