| 00:14.17 | mefu | how can I see what version of elive I have? |
| 00:14.18 | mefu | hehehe |
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| 00:38.36 | elmo40 | mefu: there is a file |
| 00:39.13 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:52.28 | Bryanstein | Sashi, |
| 02:52.35 | Bryanstein | somebody send me a file to test my dcc |
| 02:52.37 | Bryanstein | please |
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| 02:58.25 | elmo40 | Bryanstein: hey |
| 02:58.30 | elmo40 | still want a file? |
| 02:58.37 | elmo40 | i want to test my dcc script :) |
| 02:58.42 | elmo40 | how large, anything? |
| 02:58.48 | Sashi | elmo40 |
| 02:58.56 | Sashi | how do i install GTK themes? |
| 02:58.57 | elmo40 | Sashi: |
| 02:59.19 | Bryanstein | anything |
| 02:59.22 | elmo40 | as in change your themes? or get them from online and save them in the proper locations? ;) |
| 02:59.23 | Bryanstein | I need a fiel |
| 02:59.34 | Sashi | the second one |
| 02:59.44 | Sashi | where do i put the GTK theme files? |
| 02:59.48 | Bryanstein | sashi search the repo for gtk theme |
| 03:00.01 | Bryanstein | then go into elpanel and change it |
| 03:00.13 | Sashi | no.. |
| 03:00.22 | Sashi | where do i put them in? |
| 03:00.25 | elmo40 | Bryanstein: get it? |
| 03:01.08 | Sashi | elmo40 what gtk theme aer you using? :P |
| 03:01.23 | elmo40 | whatever default it. |
| 03:02.06 | Bryanstein | yes |
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| 03:03.46 | elmo40 | Sashi: this is my typical setup... http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=minext9.jpg |
| 03:05.07 | elmo40 | lmao!!!!!!!!! this is SOOOO funny http://bash.org/?817843 |
| 03:05.56 | Bryanstein | hahahaha |
| 03:06.27 | Sashi | no GUI? :D |
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| 03:11.42 | Sashi | small question |
| 03:11.50 | Sashi | where do you change iBar stuff again? |
| 03:12.13 | Sashi | nvm |
| 03:12.14 | Sashi | got it |
| 03:14.19 | elmo40 | Sashi: i use E17 |
| 03:14.27 | elmo40 | but nah, who needs gui? |
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| 03:15.28 | elmo40 | just i use cli based apps cuz they are mroe 1337 |
| 03:15.30 | elmo40 | :P |
| 03:15.38 | Theoden | Hey elmo40 |
| 03:15.39 | elmo40 | i should get that as a licence plate. |
| 03:15.41 | elmo40 | Theoden: |
| 03:15.54 | Theoden | WHat's new? |
| 03:16.20 | elmo40 | just chewin some popcorn |
| 03:16.24 | Theoden | yum |
| 03:16.29 | elmo40 | looking for another winter beater |
| 03:16.46 | elmo40 | maybe a Celica... something kinda sporty but not too low to the ground :P |
| 03:17.00 | elmo40 | or, on the other side, a 4x4 midsize pickup |
| 03:17.28 | Theoden | Got a nice 98 Honda Prelude - nicely loaded. |
| 03:17.37 | elmo40 | oh? |
| 03:17.41 | elmo40 | for me? |
| 03:17.46 | elmo40 | just dcc it over, ok? ;) |
| 03:18.04 | elmo40 | Bryanstein: did you get the file i sent you? |
| 03:18.05 | Theoden | lol - if on ly. |
| 03:18.15 | elmo40 | how far are you from Toronto? |
| 03:18.28 | elmo40 | our dollar is high now :) $1.10!! |
| 03:22.57 | Theoden | Me? |
| 03:23.17 | Theoden | North Bay - California. |
| 03:23.35 | elmo40 | damn... not driving out there for a car :P |
| 03:23.55 | elmo40 | u see my ss ? |
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| 04:37.04 | wirechief_ | Bryanstein: hello |
| 04:40.18 | Bryanstein | hey wirechief_ |
| 04:41.28 | roxville | wirechief_, ? |
| 04:41.42 | roxville | hey man, how are you? |
| 04:41.52 | roxville | i haven't seen you in... forever :) |
| 04:42.20 | Theoden | http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb48/madill48/?action=view¤t=SheddingHerBodypaint.png |
| 04:42.53 | roxville | interesting title... |
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| 04:43.23 | roxville | hehe cool! |
| 04:43.27 | roxville | Theoden, very cool |
| 04:43.38 | Theoden | :-) |
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| 07:57.35 | unduality | apt, |
| 07:57.48 | unduality | wasynyt, |
| 07:57.58 | unduality | taime1, ? |
| 07:58.12 | unduality | diabetik, |
| 07:58.20 | unduality | Bryanstein, |
| 07:58.32 | unduality | Begasus, |
| 07:58.38 | Bryanstein | I am basically in the bed |
| 07:58.51 | Bryanstein | wasther a netsplit again ? |
| 07:59.00 | unduality | Ok, sorry to disturb if thats what i did |
| 07:59.12 | Begasus | what's up? ;) |
| 07:59.39 | Bryanstein | no I am working on this server with a blanket on me lol |
| 07:59.41 | unduality | It is one thing that has troubled me in elive for a looong time... |
| 07:59.46 | Bryanstein | what |
| 07:59.47 | Bryanstein | ? |
| 08:00.03 | unduality | Its probably a easy fix... |
| 08:00.32 | unduality | If i copy a file from cd or dvd to hs its nevwe rwx |
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| 08:00.42 | unduality | it ends up being r-x |
| 08:01.03 | unduality | And can only be moved/delete as root |
| 08:01.20 | Begasus | no experience there sorry ... |
| 08:01.31 | unduality | Incredible disturbing when there is 1 file like that in a foldr with hundereds |
| 08:01.51 | unduality | Begasus, ok. |
| 08:02.05 | unduality | But you do got hat peoblem too right? |
| 08:02.20 | Bryanstein | wait |
| 08:02.25 | unduality | ok |
| 08:02.27 | Bryanstein | so you say you copy a file |
| 08:02.30 | Bryanstein | from a cd |
| 08:02.34 | unduality | yes |
| 08:02.42 | Begasus | rw cd? |
| 08:02.47 | Bryanstein | and it is copied with root permissions |
| 08:02.57 | unduality | nono usual cd or a dvd |
| 08:03.16 | unduality | And it copies the read-only thingy as well |
| 08:03.31 | unduality | And the file can only be removed from hd as root |
| 08:03.48 | unduality | It has always been like that. |
| 08:04.06 | unduality | On all my elive instals since 0.5 or something |
| 08:04.14 | unduality | And it really bugs me. |
| 08:04.26 | unduality | No |
| 08:04.34 | unduality | It copies it as user |
| 08:04.53 | Bryanstein | well it must copy the file as root |
| 08:05.06 | Bryanstein | because a normal user can't delete it |
| 08:05.22 | Begasus | biab |
| 08:05.43 | Sashi | http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9503/screenshot2wn0.png << any comments |
| 08:05.44 | Sashi | :P |
| 08:05.50 | Bryanstein | well I can send you a thunar add on that you can use to remove the file in a root thunar |
| 08:06.18 | Bryanstein | Nice Sashi |
| 08:06.19 | Bryanstein | but |
| 08:06.21 | Bryanstein | the pager |
| 08:06.26 | Bryanstein | it doesn't flow |
| 08:06.29 | Bryanstein | but everything else |
| 08:06.32 | Sashi | i know lol |
| 08:06.32 | Bryanstein | VERY nice |
| 08:06.41 | Bryanstein | but you can't see it otherwise ? |
| 08:07.04 | Sashi | ice theme is broken |
| 08:07.05 | Sashi | lol |
| 08:07.22 | unduality | Bryanstein, i copied a file from cd now and it gets saved as user (even if the process behind it might be root) |
| 08:08.33 | unduality | Well i dont use thunar (but gets the same problem with it) I get the problem with pcmanfm konqueror and rox-filer too. |
| 08:08.37 | Bryanstein | so why can't you delete it ? |
| 08:08.47 | unduality | roxfiler is my favorite one... |
| 08:08.47 | keyra | unduality: Konqueror is bloated ! do you want to turn Elive into a mess like the other distroa ? why use Elive then ? |
| 08:09.21 | Bryanstein | the permission on the file are what ? |
| 08:09.34 | Bryanstein | maybe 644? |
| 08:09.38 | unduality | Because it is marked as "r-x". It refuses |
| 08:09.47 | Bryanstein | 744 |
| 08:12.56 | unduality | gosh, you wont believe this the craftsmen rebuilding my neigbours apartment just smashed a hole into my apartment, cant belive this. i have to adress this. *Geeez |
| 08:13.24 | Sashi | how can i configure engage? |
| 08:13.29 | Sashi | i like engage better but.. |
| 08:13.34 | Sashi | the bg is like.. wtf |
| 08:14.33 | Sashi | http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1903/screenshot1xy9.png |
| 08:14.38 | Sashi | thats engage running.. |
| 08:14.43 | Sashi | i wanna take that BG out |
| 08:17.18 | Sashi | anyone? |
| 08:24.10 | unduality | Bryanstein, ? |
| 08:24.55 | unduality | Im back, they are repairing the damage now. |
| 08:25.05 | PetoKraus | :Dd |
| 08:25.14 | unduality | if i ls -l |
| 08:25.44 | unduality | i get: |
| 08:25.47 | unduality | dr-xr-xr-x |
| 08:27.15 | unduality | btw very nice artwork Sashi |
| 08:28.17 | unduality | Ok, i got things to do so i will be gone for a moment |
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| 11:39.43 | bentejuy | good morning! |
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| 12:13.32 | Mtraker | hi |
| 12:14.09 | Mtraker | where is kernel-source-2,16,18-elive? |
| 12:16.59 | Mtraker | Do you lnow hat? |
| 12:17.04 | Mtraker | know* |
| 12:19.18 | elmo40 | Mtraker: it is kinda borked... get a new one. |
| 12:20.04 | elmo40 | Sashi: you expanded Engage? I dont know where the bg image is called... but would be nice if it either called your current bg or was trans ;) |
| 12:24.54 | elmo40 | ~moo |
| 12:24.57 | apt | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 12:25.04 | elmo40 | now you speak! |
| 12:25.13 | elmo40 | stupid bot... i asked for the TIME hours ago! |
| 12:25.14 | elmo40 | !datre |
| 12:25.16 | elmo40 | !date |
| 12:25.18 | elmo40 | ~date |
| 12:25.19 | apt | It is now 2007.11.08 12:25:19 GMT |
| 12:25.27 | elmo40 | grr, stupid fingers... |
| 12:25.27 | keyra | elmo40: no... stupid human |
| 12:25.34 | elmo40 | lol, thnx bot |
| 12:30.15 | roxville | Sashi, it's called "root transparency window" and you can change it by opening elpanel and click the left icon->e17-> backgrounds manager... it's a black-and-white cube |
| 12:30.21 | roxville | choose option 2 |
| 12:31.04 | elmo40 | ya, that is what i meant to say... LOL |
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| 12:33.46 | elmo40 | grr, work time (again) |
| 12:33.55 | elmo40 | seems to be getting in the way of life, doesnt it... |
| 12:34.01 | roxville | hehe yes |
| 12:34.09 | roxville | elmo40, take care, bud |
| 12:34.24 | elmo40 | hehe? no, please dont laugh... it sucks! |
| 12:34.24 | elmo40 | lol |
| 12:34.27 | elmo40 | anyways ;) |
| 12:34.30 | elmo40 | ciao hombre |
| 12:34.43 | roxville | arrivedreci |
| 12:34.47 | roxville | oops |
| 12:35.03 | roxville | arrivederci |
| 12:35.08 | roxville | maybe... lol |
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| 15:28.32 | FossZombie | LOLZ! I'm so bored, nobody's on, I'm going to start talking to myself. |
| 15:28.35 | FossZombie | I'm that insane. |
| 15:30.20 | wasynyt | but is going to eat some food soon |
| 15:31.10 | roxville | FossZombie, did you hear/read about the shootings in wasynyt 's finland? |
| 15:31.23 | FossZombie | Yes |
| 15:31.42 | FossZombie | Maybe those teachers and students should have had weapons to protect themselves. |
| 15:31.48 | FossZombie | It's very sad |
| 15:31.58 | roxville | an 18 year old student shot and killed the principal and 8 other people and wounded about a dozen others |
| 15:32.24 | roxville | ok |
| 15:32.28 | FossZombie | He wounded more than 8 people, even though they were not shot, some people can't recover from that type of even mentally. |
| 15:32.29 | roxville | yes very sad |
| 15:32.53 | roxville | but i honestly don't think that more weapons would solve the problem |
| 15:32.56 | FossZombie | In highschool I carried weapons it saved my life more than once. |
| 15:33.06 | FossZombie | I would have been dead |
| 15:33.11 | roxville | i would not go to a school where the [rincipal was packing |
| 15:33.48 | FossZombie | one of my college professors had a gun. |
| 15:33.56 | FossZombie | nobody ever knew |
| 15:34.01 | FossZombie | until after he retired |
| 15:34.17 | FossZombie | he had it every day, and a ccw so it was legal. |
| 15:38.53 | FossZombie | I've got a blog now. |
| 15:41.00 | roxville | :) |
| 15:41.13 | roxville | BlogZombie |
| 15:41.47 | roxville | must type...must type....must type... |
| 15:41.49 | FossZombie | oh good title |
| 15:42.02 | FossZombie | everyone was begging for a blog from me |
| 15:42.26 | FossZombie | my close friends, people I don't know, the voices in my head, and even religious leaders. |
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| 15:47.28 | Theoden | Someone told me it ROX in roxville!! |
| 15:47.52 | roxville | it does |
| 15:48.38 | FossZombie | I learned that the police don't protect you, they wait until everyone is dead, then they move in. |
| 15:49.33 | wasynyt | .. |
| 15:49.39 | FossZombie | If you go to the city, and hear 3 gunshots, you call 911/999 what do they say? "Call back when you hear 3 more shots" hoping that most or all of the rounds had been expended before they will send help. |
| 15:50.04 | wasynyt | well that is not the case here |
| 15:53.38 | Theoden | Yeah - here they say, "Fuck you - you're on you're own. |
| 15:53.44 | Theoden | lol |
| 15:54.32 | Theoden | That's why I carry a laptop and hide out in airport restrooms waiting for Larry Craig. |
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| 15:56.48 | roxville | lol Theoden |
| 15:56.55 | roxville | hello Spirit_ |
| 15:56.58 | FossZombie | http://fosszombie.blogspot.com/ |
| 15:57.00 | roxville | welcome to #elive |
| 16:03.26 | FossZombie | oh I have not used elive since the whole kernel issue, has the new kernel been built? |
| 16:03.47 | assasukasse | FossZombie: not yet |
| 16:05.07 | FossZombie | I've pretty much permanently dumped elive and am using my own homebrew distros because of such problems. it took me what half an hour to fix with 15 of the most common 3rd party drivers and 17 other modules. |
| 16:05.14 | assasukasse | i have problems too.. |
| 16:05.24 | assasukasse | i can't compile the sl-modem module.. |
| 16:05.30 | FossZombie | but I can't serve that to all the end-users |
| 16:05.54 | FossZombie | when its literally over a hundred elive users who want it and I'm never even home to have my computer on to seed |
| 16:06.35 | assasukasse | i think maybe we should think about getting a plain debian kernel..and IN case anyone wants, can install the tweaked one |
| 16:06.58 | wasynyt | well that is something for thana to decide |
| 16:07.08 | assasukasse | i agree |
| 16:07.34 | FossZombie | I'd say thats the most logical thing to do. |
| 16:07.44 | FossZombie | since he obviously can't maintain a kernel himself |
| 16:07.53 | FossZombie | he can focus on the other stuff |
| 16:08.42 | assasukasse | i am just being realistic, we have to get packages from debian or compiled for debian etch, thana can't compile all the package himself..that is too much really.. |
| 16:08.53 | assasukasse | i mean, what should he forget sleeping and work 24/24 7/7? |
| 16:09.18 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 16:09.38 | assasukasse | unless we will have an octopus thana with 8 computer for 8 tentacles :D |
| 16:09.48 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:10.49 | assasukasse | now, most of the time i compile myself the packages, because if i ask thana if i can install from a repo, he would say no, and after 3 hours tell me he compiled...i feel a bugger, i bother, he has to stop doing something, compile for me, and put on the repo.. |
| 16:10.56 | FossZombie | To make your own kernel/kernel modules grab a kernel-source package and the module source, extract it, cd into it, then: |
| 16:10.56 | FossZombie | To make your own grab a source copy, 'make oldconfig && make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image' |
| 16:10.56 | FossZombie | Or to Customize/Optimise your kernel 'make menuconfig && make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image' |
| 16:10.56 | FossZombie | To build modules issue the 'make-kpkg modules_config' command |
| 16:10.56 | FossZombie | in the /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18-elive/ directory. |
| 16:11.30 | assasukasse | FossZombie: i am using module assistant to compile sl-modem-source |
| 16:11.39 | assasukasse | no way to make it compile, says i am missing headers... |
| 16:11.41 | FossZombie | but |
| 16:11.51 | FossZombie | cd /usr/src |
| 16:11.58 | FossZombie | rm *linux* |
| 16:12.05 | FossZombie | rm *elive* |
| 16:12.18 | FossZombie | then apt-get install kernel-source or get it from wherever you want |
| 16:12.23 | FossZombie | then extract it |
| 16:12.37 | FossZombie | put your modules in the /usr/src/modules directory |
| 16:12.46 | assasukasse | FossZombie: u know i can't find linux-kernel-headers-2.18-elive nowhere? |
| 16:12.47 | FossZombie | cd into /usr/src/nameoflinuxkerneldirectory |
| 16:12.52 | FossZombie | then compile your own damn kernel |
| 16:13.11 | FossZombie | assasukasse, its not possible the elive kernel is BROKEN that means headers are broken and source is broken |
| 16:13.25 | assasukasse | FossZombie: i guessed.. |
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| 16:13.33 | FossZombie | you can make a "the elive way" kernel with the elive config my method. |
| 16:14.11 | assasukasse | FossZombie: no i can't spend time on it, i will keep using the lap without the modem for now, then when the new version with new kernel comes out |
| 16:14.15 | assasukasse | compile the modules |
| 16:14.22 | FossZombie | literally the kernel just has to be compiled with the correct versions of gcc and other depends. |
| 16:14.52 | FossZombie | I don't think the problem will ever be fixed honestly. |
| 16:15.22 | assasukasse | FossZombie: btw, how is ubuntu kernel? is that possible to install on elive? just curious... |
| 16:15.23 | FossZombie | this would be the highest possible ranking bug and it's been active for months now. |
| 16:15.34 | assasukasse | the new ubuntu kernel seems very stable |
| 16:15.36 | assasukasse | at the moment |
| 16:15.37 | keyra | assasukasse: Hey buddy, you want help installing that kernel ? check http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 16:15.54 | assasukasse | keyra give me a beer pleaseee |
| 16:16.08 | keyra | assasukasse: hic! |
| 16:16.25 | FossZombie | Why not go get the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu iso and create some skel-like scripts for it and install e17 |
| 16:16.42 | FossZombie | it's already got a stable kernel and all the drivers you could want |
| 16:17.06 | Thanatermesis | |]~[| apt-cache search headers linux elive |
| 16:17.06 | Thanatermesis | linux-headers-2.6.18-elive - Header files related to Linux kernel, specifically, |
| 16:17.06 | Thanatermesis | linux-source-2.6.18-elive - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.18-elive |
| 16:17.06 | Thanatermesis | |]~[| |
| 16:17.09 | assasukasse | FossZombie: i am a basic linux user, i started packaging recently, and i don't have a clue what are skel-scripts :D |
| 16:17.15 | Thanatermesis | there's no problems with the Elive kernel |
| 16:17.45 | FossZombie | Thanatermesis, why can't we compile our own modules? |
| 16:17.52 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: is strange i don't have linux-headers-2.6.18-elive |
| 16:18.00 | Thanatermesis | FossZombie, i can do it, why ppl not ? |
| 16:18.05 | assasukasse | i think my system is b0rked then |
| 16:18.11 | FossZombie | our systems are broken |
| 16:18.20 | Thanatermesis | assasukasse, its JUST moved since 3 days ago at a new dir on the Elive repo, "drivers" |
| 16:18.25 | FossZombie | SOMETHING happened that I couldn't fix without totally recompiling the kernel. |
| 16:18.38 | FossZombie | oh, there's a new one? |
| 16:18.41 | FossZombie | ill try it out |
| 16:18.55 | Thanatermesis | yes, since 3 days ago, i have moved all kernels/drivers on that repo |
| 16:19.03 | Thanatermesis | <FossZombie> Thanatermesis, why can't we compile our own modules? |
| 16:19.06 | assasukasse | thanks Thanatermesis |
| 16:19.10 | FossZombie | assasukasse, the truth is ubuntu's got some really bad flaws |
| 16:19.10 | assasukasse | i am adding it! |
| 16:19.13 | Thanatermesis | why not ? |
| 16:19.27 | Thanatermesis | <assasukasse> FossZombie: btw, how is ubuntu kernel? is that possible to install on elive? just curious... |
| 16:19.33 | FossZombie | assasukasse, I tried it out and it looked great, but once I looked at it a bit more |
| 16:19.40 | FossZombie | I was amazed at some of its problems |
| 16:19.40 | Thanatermesis | do that and you see your computer in fire lol |
| 16:19.47 | assasukasse | lol :D |
| 16:19.50 | FossZombie | lolz Thanatermesis isn't joking |
| 16:20.01 | FossZombie | there's a problem with ubuntu that runs the life out of your hard drive |
| 16:20.07 | assasukasse | FossZombie: i am using ubuntu on my desktop from about 2 years.. |
| 16:20.11 | assasukasse | i did this small thing |
| 16:20.16 | FossZombie | it also has some strange ability to change your clock speeds |
| 16:20.16 | Thanatermesis | use ubuntu packages on a debian system (or viceversa) is more INCOMPATIBLE that use .rpm packages from suse or red-hat |
| 16:20.18 | FossZombie | on some hardware |
| 16:20.28 | assasukasse | rc.local added hdparm -B 255 /dev/hda |
| 16:20.33 | assasukasse | and no more disk problem |
| 16:21.01 | FossZombie | but whenever somone asks me "why don't we use something ubuntu" I'm like go ahead and do it. lol just keep me away from it. |
| 16:21.05 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: how can i make the new e17 from test forget my user at startup, i am tired of seeing my name already typed in entrance! |
| 16:21.19 | FossZombie | My current homebrew is 64bit, based on elive, with cvs e17 |
| 16:21.34 | keyra | FossZombie: please make a look to http://old.elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/27.html |
| 16:22.11 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: is there available any "notification" system that makes me know when something new happens in elive? i would never know i had to add drivers |
| 16:23.00 | FossZombie | when you update and upgrade it will tell you if the kernel package is going to change |
| 16:23.35 | FossZombie | and that shouldn't happen for a while if the elive kernel is fixed because that kernel is very stable. now that headers work. |
| 16:24.06 | assasukasse | great |
| 16:24.12 | assasukasse | now the headers are there! |
| 16:24.18 | FossZombie | Thanatermesis, how are you doing it's been a while since we had a chat. |
| 16:24.40 | assasukasse | FossZombie: i didn't have "drivers" in my sources.list, so it would never tell me about that... |
| 16:25.24 | assasukasse | i mean, if i didn't ask thana, i was still hitting my head on the wall |
| 16:25.42 | assasukasse | because there was no way i could "guess" it :D |
| 16:26.48 | Thanatermesis | assasukasse, Elive has new features, changes, is developing... everytime to be better... a lot of changes are made everyday, is not possible that the ppl knows about that, the only thing that the ppl can see, is the changelog |
| 16:27.03 | keyra | Thanatermesis: the changelog page is actually down because Thanatermesis is not in belgium for now, its little server is without internet connection |
| 16:27.05 | Thanatermesis | FossZombie, same things, working |
| 16:27.10 | FossZombie | Thanatermesis, I need to figure out how to make a installer for my 64bit elive-like |
| 16:27.19 | Thanatermesis | keyra, thanks that's correct :=) |
| 16:27.32 | Thanatermesis | 64 bits ? |
| 16:27.34 | keyra | Thanatermesis: welcome :) |
| 16:27.57 | wasynyt | what is so scary in 64 bits |
| 16:27.57 | FossZombie | I want my 64bit to be MODERN HARDWARE aimed at high end development and gamer machines only. |
| 16:28.02 | FossZombie | wasynyt, package hell. |
| 16:28.13 | wasynyt | nice |
| 16:28.45 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: m-a building fails.. |
| 16:28.52 | Thanatermesis | <wasynyt> what is so scary in 64 bits |
| 16:29.10 | FossZombie | it would be impossible for Thanatermesis to maintain a 64bit and 32bit system by himself, it would require a group and universal build scripts, but there has to be exceptions and differing packages. |
| 16:29.13 | Thanatermesis | that i don't have time to make it, look at it, work... how i can teach now how to write a installer for a 64 bits version ? lol |
| 16:29.40 | FossZombie | Thanatermesis, I'm just going to rape it from the ISO like I do everything else. |
| 16:29.43 | FossZombie | lol |
| 16:29.49 | Thanatermesis | my todo list is more than 2000 lines ,and i lost the 30 % of the time of the day, just replying emails |
| 16:29.56 | Thanatermesis | im thinkin at remove my email accounts |
| 16:29.57 | FossZombie | You've already done it so all I need to do is look and learn |
| 16:30.27 | FossZombie | Thanatermesis, I still get a HIGH VOLUME of emails regarding elive I help many people.. |
| 16:31.04 | PetoKraus | :D |
| 16:31.09 | FossZombie | there are a lot of people who were interested on how to make their elive more safe and they wanted you to make a high-security elive version lol.... I told them that he shouldn't do that and I ended up telling them how to secure their systems. |
| 16:31.16 | Thanatermesis | <assasukasse> Thanatermesis: m-a building fails.. |
| 16:31.18 | Thanatermesis | do not use that |
| 16:31.23 | FossZombie | like encryption. |
| 16:31.28 | Thanatermesis | use normal style compiling, that's all |
| 16:31.45 | FossZombie | they want optional /home encryption right in the installer (my 64bit installer has that) |
| 16:32.13 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: ? i am reading the guide of sl-modem-source guide..i will try to follow the other way they say.. |
| 16:32.26 | FossZombie | I wrote how-tos on the elive forums |
| 16:33.05 | Thanatermesis | assasukasse, do you have look at the article on http://wiki.elivecd.org about drivers, kernel, adn stuff ? |
| 16:33.14 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: i am reading it! :D |
| 16:33.55 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: i solved the problem m-a built it..just it DIDNT tell me i needed gcc-3.4 useless script... |
| 16:34.26 | FossZombie | Thanatermesis, I hate that m-a doesn't work. I got addicted to it just building everything easily. |
| 16:34.55 | Thanatermesis | assasukasse, but the article on http://wiki.elivecd.org tells about that |
| 16:34.59 | FossZombie | apparently they even have problems with it in debian development. |
| 16:35.26 | assasukasse | :) btw, i had to modprobbe slamr..but now i forgot how to make it permanent, i add in /etc/modules or there is another way |
| 16:36.12 | FossZombie | hmm.... I need to add vmware tools/drivers package to my 64bit installer. |
| 16:36.23 | FossZombie | how to easily detect if the machine is vmware. |
| 16:36.37 | assasukasse | FossZombie: if the modules are loaded |
| 16:37.19 | FossZombie | oh if i cat proc and see a vmware scsi controller! |
| 16:37.32 | FossZombie | actually that might not always exist |
| 16:37.49 | Mtraker | Thanatermesis sabes si hay alguna manera de activar las teclas fn ? |
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| 16:38.33 | FossZombie | oh cool all the packages I cared about in elive are updated/fixed |
| 16:38.34 | assasukasse | Mtraker: the key fn works in all the pc i tried..at your doesnt? |
| 16:38.41 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, si claro que tiene que haber, pero creo que no hay ningun estandar para ello, mira en google tu modelo de laptop y "linux", tiene que haber howtos que te dicen como... mira tambien en la configuracion de e17 a ver si te las detecta de por si, o mejor, lanza "xev" a ver si te las detecta |
| 16:38.50 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, y si hay que aƱadir alguna configuracion o algo en Elive, avisa |
| 16:39.05 | Mtraker | ya te dire |
| 16:39.12 | Mtraker | estoy con una x3100 |
| 16:39.18 | Mtraker | perdon con un vaio |
| 16:40.18 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, quizas te funcionen con un nuevo kernel |
| 16:40.22 | Thanatermesis | ya que es una maquina nueva |
| 16:40.39 | Thanatermesis | time to work, brb |
| 16:40.40 | Mtraker | demasiado nueva |
| 16:40.45 | Mtraker | ok |
| 16:43.28 | FossZombie | I had been at work for 3 days hehe |
| 16:47.54 | FossZombie | the GCC problem is also fixed |
| 16:47.56 | FossZombie | =) |
| 16:48.01 | FossZombie | happy day! |
| 16:48.29 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis: i wanted to make u know, building gimp from sid fails..because wants gtk2.10 and we have only 2.8 :( |
| 16:48.33 | FossZombie | I sent the update code to my virtual machines, and laptop |
| 16:48.59 | FossZombie | assasukasse, read my backporting guide |
| 16:49.12 | FossZombie | its in the forums under howtos |
| 16:50.11 | assasukasse | FossZombie: i am heading there |
| 16:52.29 | assasukasse | FossZombie: why do u make a jailroot for compiling? |
| 16:52.47 | assasukasse | i mean if u install the package and it doesnt work, u can delete it and done :D |
| 16:53.01 | FossZombie | assasukasse, because I'm crazy |
| 16:53.19 | FossZombie | I like to cleanroom my development when possible |
| 16:53.20 | assasukasse | FossZombie: u compile system packages maybe |
| 16:53.36 | assasukasse | FossZombie: like remove all the dev files? |
| 16:53.49 | FossZombie | example if I don't use a chroot with bootstrap and all that |
| 16:54.00 | FossZombie | I could pervert the package |
| 16:54.12 | assasukasse | "pervert?" :D |
| 16:54.29 | FossZombie | its just the safe way to do something if you are going to redistribute the package |
| 16:55.10 | assasukasse | FossZombie: because u will be sure that u always build in a clean place |
| 16:56.06 | FossZombie | "In a empty sterile room somehow I made a mess" |
| 16:56.07 | assasukasse | FossZombie: well that is a nice idea |
| 16:57.06 | FossZombie | if you don't learn the build things the right way and clean it's like kicking yourself in the teeth |
| 16:58.35 | assasukasse | FossZombie: agree i will use jailroots from now on |
| 16:58.35 | FossZombie | wow 1TB drives are only 150$ |
| 16:58.54 | assasukasse | btw u always use arch i386 not i686? |
| 16:58.57 | FossZombie | I should get 4 of them and put it up on a TerraRaid NAS |
| 16:59.22 | FossZombie | assasukasse, that depends. |
| 17:00.27 | FossZombie | on my custom gamer machines sometimes I build a 32bit and 64bit i686 kernel and every package optimized for it. Some games do take advantage of the new sse and i686 instructions, others don't as much. |
| 17:01.06 | FossZombie | debian i386 and debian i686 has like a less than 1% performance difference. |
| 17:01.26 | FossZombie | but it works on more computers |
| 17:01.26 | assasukasse | cool |
| 17:01.29 | PetoKraus | that's not much |
| 17:01.29 | FossZombie | do the math |
| 17:01.41 | assasukasse | FossZombie: if i don't want to use debian cd, and i want to download from net? |
| 17:02.19 | FossZombie | like floppy boot, usb boot, netboot |
| 17:02.27 | FossZombie | theres millions of ways to install debian |
| 17:02.47 | FossZombie | flash card readers some of them can boot |
| 17:03.05 | PetoKraus | well, mine is installed from USB |
| 17:03.09 | PetoKraus | there is pretty good howto |
| 17:04.06 | PetoKraus | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apas02.html.en#howto-getting-images-usb |
| 17:04.24 | assasukasse | debootstrap -arch i386 etch jail netboot? |
| 17:04.30 | FossZombie | I've gotta rebuild my base image for my elive-vmware |
| 17:04.31 | assasukasse | i prefer internet since i don't have stuff at the moment.. |
| 17:04.55 | FossZombie | oh you mean with backporting |
| 17:05.11 | FossZombie | just use the debian mirrors instead of the cd/dvd |
| 17:05.20 | FossZombie | cd/dvd just saves time sometimes. |
| 17:05.25 | assasukasse | FossZombie: mainly i will use as a backporting place.. |
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| 19:46.57 | assasukasse | FossZombie: i compiled using your chroot system |
| 19:47.03 | assasukasse | however i have a question |
| 19:47.14 | assasukasse | if u are here and u have 5 min free i would like to ask u |
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| 19:48.47 | Elive_user97 | hello i am a n00b |
| 19:48.51 | Elive_user97 | lol |
| 19:48.59 | wasynyt | good evening |
| 19:49.00 | LinuxNIT | howdy |
| 19:49.25 | Elive_user97 | I just installed elive, ...very nice |
| 19:49.57 | Elive_user97 | I guess i should figure out how to make a screenname...lol |
| 19:50.06 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.38 | LinuxNIT | you can edit them in the xchat menu >network list |
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| 20:24.20 | FossZombie | assasukasse, what do you need |
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| 20:32.04 | Elive_n00b | so nowi have elive onmy computer via cd, do i have to create a partician to install it perminately? |
| 20:33.57 | Elive_n00b | Hey LinuxNIT areyou there? |
| 20:34.26 | LinuxNIT | sup? |
| 20:34.43 | LinuxNIT | click the install icon on the bar at the bottom |
| 20:34.58 | LinuxNIT | it will have you open a partition manager |
| 20:35.15 | LinuxNIT | there should be some helpful tips that pop up with it. |
| 20:35.23 | Elive_n00b | ahh... okay... |
| 20:35.26 | Elive_n00b | thank you |
| 20:35.34 | LinuxNIT | no problem |
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| 21:02.12 | Gioacchino | hey |
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| 21:33.18 | RudiKuin | hey everyone, I've downloaded the Open Office bonus disk, burned it to CD I can't figure out what's next... Help? |
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| 21:34.46 | SuperpeZ | Hola |
| 21:36.21 | RudiKuin | assasukasse, hey, I've downloaded the Open Office bonus disk, burned it to CD I can't figure out what's next... Help? |
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| 21:49.38 | wasynyt | good night people |
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| 21:55.49 | RudiKuin | Okay installed the Open Office package and it looks GREAT!!! |
| 21:57.09 | RudiKuin | First I had to copy the contents from the CD to my Home-folder and then I got to install it |
| 21:58.22 | RudiKuin | Again, I'm very happy with Elive AND this version of Open Office! |
| 21:58.29 | elmo40 | how can i write character via ascii code? In windoze, you can Alt+167 and it will type the Degree symbol for you. Is there a way to do that in Linux? |
| 21:58.54 | RudiKuin | I can't wait for the Bonus Disk with the Graphics apps... |
| 21:59.49 | RudiKuin | elmo40, do you have office too? |
| 22:00.41 | RudiKuin | because then you should look under the Insert-tab |
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| 22:16.30 | elmo40 | i do not have office, and that is the LONG way to do it. |
| 22:16.35 | elmo40 | I want something in cli ;) |
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| 22:34.15 | elmo40 | well, i found a site with a decent list. http://didgood.com/programing/datatheory/ASCII%20Table.htm |
| 22:34.23 | elmo40 | i guess i am stuck with cut'n'paste |
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| 23:23.44 | Elive_user65 | \LBo |
| 23:25.20 | LinuxNIT | hello Elive_user65 |
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