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| 02:30.40 | donpachi | hey guys where can i get some docs on ibar...specifically how to add an installed app to it? |
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| 02:32.58 | LinuxNIT | what versoin of e17 are you on? |
| 02:35.33 | LinuxNIT | donpachi, ? |
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| 02:37.23 | donpachi | LinuxNIT: i have gem installed. not using the newest e17 |
| 02:37.38 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 02:37.58 | donpachi | LinuxNIT: so 16.999.026 |
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| 02:38.22 | LinuxNIT | then you have to creat an eap for the program and place it in ~/.e/e/applications/all and use entangle to add it to ibar (entangle is in elpanel ) |
| 02:38.27 | LinuxNIT | apt make-eap |
| 02:38.37 | apt | somebody said make-eap was http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 02:38.49 | LinuxNIT | read that for info on making eaps |
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| 02:40.10 | donpachi | LinuxNIT: thanks for the infos |
| 02:40.16 | LinuxNIT | no problem |
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| 03:17.10 | KalvinManson | hola |
| 03:17.24 | KalvinManson | soldados estan ay? |
| 03:17.24 | keyra | KalvinManson: que tal ? |
| 03:17.36 | KalvinManson | keyra siempre keyra necesito alguien de verdad |
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| 04:31.42 | Detox_at_Home | hello folks !!!! yahooo for me !!! I have figured out how to write a shell script with comamnds in it. Found how to change dir and execute a command withing the script and it actually worked! |
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| 04:50.17 | Elive_user63 | I don't know if anyone here has tried Lsongs from the Linspire guys but I'm trying to install it and all its dependencies now. Does anyone know if it will work without KDE installed? |
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| 05:02.31 | Elive_user63 | Ok, it looks like it does need KDE installed. So is there a way to install KDE but not actually use it? |
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| 05:28.48 | Elive_user63 | Are the KDE libraries included in e17? |
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| 05:50.48 | Elive_user63 | Man, it's about impossible to find information about KDE and Elive. |
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| 06:23.19 | elmo40 | Elive_user63: no KDE libs are used with E17 |
| 06:23.24 | elmo40 | if anything, Gnome libs are. |
| 06:23.43 | elmo40 | what is Lsongs? |
| 06:23.58 | Elive_user63 | Thanks. I'm having a lot of trouble with this stuff. |
| 06:24.12 | elmo40 | such as what? |
| 06:24.29 | Elive_user63 | It's basically an iTunes close for linux. And if you aren't using Linspire, there's a whole lot of dependencies. |
| 06:24.44 | elmo40 | there is no reason why you can not install the app. It will only install the KDE libs anyways, not the entire KDE DE |
| 06:24.57 | elmo40 | where can you get it from? |
| 06:25.21 | elmo40 | it is called Lsongs? As in LinspireSongs? |
| 06:25.27 | Elive_user63 | http://lsongs.com/?page=downloads#dependencies |
| 06:25.37 | Elive_user63 | Yeah, that's what I figure. |
| 06:26.14 | elmo40 | Depends: python, python-central (>= 0.5.8), python-eyed3, python-qt3, python-kde3, python-pyxine, python-pynjb (>= 0.1.0), python-ipod, howl-xml, trmxml, cdparanoia, cdrecord, mpg321, vorbis-tools (>= 1.0rc3-1), sox, avahi-daemon, cdda2wav |
| 06:26.25 | elmo40 | no KDE there! |
| 06:26.41 | elmo40 | well, just a python kde thingy |
| 06:27.14 | Elive_user63 | Right. The PyKDE requires KDE. What I've been running into is that a lot of these dependencies have dependencies that aren't on this list. |
| 06:27.45 | elmo40 | well, let me see what it wants from me :P |
| 06:28.03 | Elive_user63 | You're awesome. Thanks. |
| 06:28.08 | elmo40 | The following NEW packages will be installed: cdda2wav cdparanoia howl-xml icedax konsole libavahi-compat-howl0 libid3-3.8.3c2a libipod-doc libipod0 libmusicbrainz4c2a libnjb5 libsox-fmt-alsa libsox-fmt-base libsox0 lsongs python-eyed3 python-ipod python-kde3 python-pynjb python-pyxine sox trmxml |
| 06:28.13 | elmo40 | 0 upgraded, 22 newly installed, 0 to remove and 172 not upgraded. |
| 06:28.16 | elmo40 | Need to get 14.9MB of archives. |
| 06:28.18 | elmo40 | After unpacking 60.8MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 06:28.23 | keyra | elmo40: apt-cache search keywords for a package and apt-get install packagename to install a package |
| 06:28.35 | Elive_user63 | How are you installing? |
| 06:28.44 | elmo40 | that is all it wants! (fucking 60mb all-in-one media player? SCREW THAT) |
| 06:28.51 | elmo40 | using apt-get. |
| 06:29.09 | Elive_user63 | So you just said apt-get Lsongs? |
| 06:29.17 | elmo40 | Version: 0.2.46-1 |
| 06:29.19 | elmo40 | yes |
| 06:29.46 | elmo40 | well... it is in the Debian Unstable. Dont know about Etch. |
| 06:30.00 | keyra | elmo40: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 06:30.19 | Elive_user63 | Oh. And here I was spending five hours trying to download and manually install every package on that list. |
| 06:30.25 | elmo40 | type: apt-cache policy lsongs |
| 06:30.33 | elmo40 | and tell me what version it will install |
| 06:31.17 | elmo40 | shit, it will install konsole? That is crap. |
| 06:31.22 | elmo40 | dont get this app. |
| 06:31.31 | elmo40 | too much stuff for nothing. |
| 06:31.59 | Elive_user63 | Well, that's ok for me. I just really like the interface. |
| 06:32.30 | Elive_user63 | And unfortunately it gives me the error unable to locate package lsongs. |
| 06:33.57 | elmo40 | sorry to hear that... |
| 06:34.18 | elmo40 | if you dont mind breaking everything else you have (including E17) then try Debian Unstable repo. |
| 06:35.27 | Elive_user63 | Yeah. I don't know about that. |
| 06:36.14 | Wizard | good morning |
| 06:38.14 | elmo40 | your choice: leave it the way it is... try to do it the hard way and grab all dependencies from the website... OR... use testing/unstable and apt-get install lsongs |
| 06:38.17 | elmo40 | Wizard: moo |
| 06:39.57 | Elive_user63 | So, how do I add that repository? |
| 06:40.08 | elmo40 | edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:40.24 | elmo40 | in one of the Debian lines, change 'etch' to 'sid' or 'unstable' |
| 06:40.35 | elmo40 | then: apt-get update |
| 06:40.38 | keyra | elmo40: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 06:40.39 | elmo40 | apt-get upgrade |
| 06:40.46 | elmo40 | and watch your world come crashing down! |
| 06:41.06 | Elive_user63 | Whew. Makes me nervous. |
| 06:41.08 | elmo40 | it will say 'need to remove 100000 apps, and replace 203030 apps'... 600Gb required to download :/ |
| 06:41.27 | elmo40 | not that bad... doable :P |
| 06:41.38 | elmo40 | but dont worry, nothing will be broken, unless you say YES |
| 06:41.51 | elmo40 | you still have a chance to go back to Etch by saying NO |
| 06:42.00 | elmo40 | but it is always funny to see what it wants to remove! |
| 06:42.15 | elmo40 | give it a shot, even I want to know what it will remove... |
| 06:42.16 | Elive_user63 | Yeah. I can't wait. |
| 06:43.15 | elmo40 | well, do you mind? |
| 06:43.29 | Elive_user63 | Can I just add the repository and not replace the old one? |
| 06:43.37 | elmo40 | it will show you first. Not like windoze and erase everything, force you to reboot, and say 'sorry, you fcuked up' ;) |
| 06:43.41 | elmo40 | no |
| 06:43.54 | Elive_user63 | Well, then. Here I go. |
| 06:44.18 | elmo40 | pastebin.ca what apt wants to replace... i am curious |
| 06:44.37 | elmo40 | never did that myself. I started straight from Debian Etch, and moved to Unstable. Not from Elive. |
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| 06:46.35 | Elive_user63 | Well, I typed apt-get upgrade and it doesn't want to remove anything yet. |
| 06:46.50 | keyra | Elive_user63: thanks... bot :) |
| 06:50.00 | Elive_user63 | It's still getting stuff. |
| 07:00.36 | Elive_user63 | I'm starting to see the replacements now. |
| 07:01.23 | Elive_user63 | There sure are a lot of them. |
| 07:05.14 | Elive_user63 | Ok, the version of lsongs it wants to install is 0.2.46-1 |
| 07:06.56 | Elive_user63 | I get that when I type apt-cache policy lsongs |
| 07:07.28 | Elive_user63 | But when I type apt-get lsongs it says invalid operation lsongs |
| 07:10.41 | Elive_user63 | Oh. I see what you're saying. So what happens if efl-all and libiblib2-dev are removed? |
| 07:18.04 | Elive_user63 | Does anybody know what happens if efl-all and libimlib2-dev are removed? |
| 07:40.27 | wasynyt | good morning people |
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| 08:24.09 | wasynyt | no-one awake |
| 08:24.10 | wasynyt | ? |
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| 11:32.18 | rubasub | it's a beautiful day! even though my elive is glitching :( |
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| 14:24.25 | elmo40 | wasynyt: moo?! |
| 14:28.10 | wasynyt | apt slap elmo40 |
| 14:28.11 | apt | ACTION slaps elmo40, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 14:44.45 | elmo40 | wasynyt: now now... play nicely |
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| 15:22.00 | wasynyt | so why did you call me elmo40 ? |
| 15:22.15 | elmo40 | 03:20 < wasynyt> no-one awake |
| 15:22.21 | elmo40 | i was replying ;) |
| 15:22.28 | wasynyt | nice lag |
| 15:22.29 | elmo40 | 6 hours later... lol |
| 15:22.31 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:22.49 | elmo40 | know of any POS software? |
| 15:23.07 | wasynyt | POS ? |
| 15:23.15 | elmo40 | i am trying to start a http://linuxcaffe.ca in my home town, and looking for OS Software to get things running. |
| 15:23.19 | elmo40 | point of sale |
| 15:23.23 | wasynyt | :( |
| 15:23.29 | elmo40 | cash register stuff ;) With customer account information |
| 15:23.53 | wasynyt | :/ hmm i am not sure.. i think not |
| 15:25.32 | wasynyt | those are kind of special apps, so it is hard to just happen to find |
| 15:27.48 | wasynyt | there seems to be quite a few tho |
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| 15:32.14 | elmo40 | ya |
| 15:32.25 | elmo40 | i went in sf.net and found 136 results! |
| 15:33.29 | wasynyt | :S |
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| 15:43.25 | Elive_user13 | may |
| 15:43.59 | elmo40 | june? |
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| 16:06.11 | kevin_ | helo |
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| 16:14.02 | kevin_ | anyone use the tifm driver? |
| 16:14.16 | kevin_ | yenta_socket driver sorry :x |
| 16:15.53 | elmo40 | kevin_: what does it 'drive' ? |
| 16:16.13 | kevin_ | pmcia slots |
| 16:16.33 | elmo40 | laptop... ok. What seems to be the problem? |
| 16:16.40 | kevin_ | and i've an error about memory resource while loading the driver |
| 16:17.21 | kevin_ | one of the pmcia port have a texas instrument sd card reader who don't work |
| 16:17.42 | kevin_ | so, i've a wifi card on the second slot and she work |
| 16:17.56 | kevin_ | i think that due to the memory error |
| 16:18.12 | elmo40 | it may be a BIOS setting that conflicts with memory. |
| 16:18.16 | kevin_ | i'm searching how can i override that |
| 16:18.18 | elmo40 | i had that issue with a network card. |
| 16:18.24 | kevin_ | i think to |
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| 16:18.41 | kevin_ | the driver can have an arg "override_bios" |
| 16:19.05 | kevin_ | so i can't unload the module to reload him with the option |
| 16:19.42 | kevin_ | can i have a way to set the option at boot time? |
| 16:20.44 | elmo40 | only nopcmcia option |
| 16:20.58 | elmo40 | does the bios have any options? |
| 16:21.04 | kevin_ | nop |
| 16:21.26 | kevin_ | nopcmcia disable all pmcia port? |
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| 16:24.00 | elmo40 | yes |
| 16:28.13 | kevin_ | k |
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| 16:34.01 | kevin_ | back |
| 16:34.25 | kevin_ | elmo40, my pmcia slot work if i set the kernel option nopcmcia :x |
| 16:35.32 | kevin_ | i think my apn is a good sd-card reader XD |
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| 17:41.04 | greenmanspirit_ | I just wanted to stop in and say that elive looks really nice and as soon as my paypal transfer goes through I am going to be downloading it |
| 17:41.18 | keyra | greenmanspirit_: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
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| 17:42.38 | greenmanspirit_ | keyra: I'm getting the one from the site, it will be the first distro I have paid for |
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| 19:30.44 | Elive_user63 | I need help. I think I screwed up pretty bad. I installed KDE last night and ran an apt-get upgrade from the debian unstable repository and now my ibar is missing and all my programs are gone from the menus. |
| 19:30.58 | keyra | Elive_user63: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 19:32.11 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user63, wow |
| 19:32.20 | PrinceAMD | well u did screw up |
| 19:32.30 | PrinceAMD | with installing kde that is ;) |
| 19:32.54 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user63, what window manager u using? |
| 19:33.01 | Elive_user63 | e17. |
| 19:33.06 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user63, did u compile it? |
| 19:33.25 | Elive_user63 | No. I'm using the one that came with the elive gem cd. |
| 19:34.04 | Elive_user63 | I wasn't really wanting to use KDE. I was just trying to install all the dependecies for this other program. |
| 19:34.05 | PrinceAMD | oh shit |
| 19:34.40 | PrinceAMD | well elive e17 is compiled under Etch n ur using Sid |
| 19:34.41 | PrinceAMD | wow |
| 19:34.45 | PrinceAMD | is it working ok? |
| 19:35.06 | PrinceAMD | i am using elive also with debian Sid repository ;) |
| 19:35.19 | PrinceAMD | but... i compile e17 to keep things stable ;) |
| 19:36.01 | Elive_user63 | Well, everything seems to be working. I can access my programs by using the run command. I just can't get the ibar back or any of the apps in the drop down menus when right or left clicking the desktop. |
| 19:36.25 | Elive_user63 | I see. I'm not really sure how to do that. |
| 19:37.44 | PrinceAMD | what program did u install that needed dependencies from debian unstable? |
| 19:37.59 | keyra | PrinceAMD: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 19:42.17 | PrinceAMD | thanks keyra |
| 19:42.32 | keyra | PrinceAMD: welcome :) |
| 19:42.37 | Elive_user63 | I was trying to install lSongs. |
| 19:42.45 | Elive_user63 | I still haven't succeeded. |
| 19:43.19 | Elive_user63 | I think I'm about ready to give up on that. Or at least try again in a virtual machine so I don't mess this one up any further. |
| 19:43.48 | PrinceAMD | well if u r moving to sid |
| 19:43.54 | PrinceAMD | did u do |
| 19:44.01 | PrinceAMD | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:44.29 | PrinceAMD | u will also need to remove elive repository if u want to move to sid fully |
| 19:44.46 | PrinceAMD | because some stuff conflicts with others |
| 19:44.53 | PrinceAMD | maybe i should write a howto on this |
| 19:45.17 | Elive_user63 | That would be cool. |
| 19:45.46 | Elive_user63 | I haven't done a dist-upgrade. This is the first I've heard of it. |
| 19:45.49 | PrinceAMD | yeah but the thing is it's not same on all systems |
| 19:45.58 | PrinceAMD | oh well u need to do that |
| 19:46.07 | PrinceAMD | it will upgrade all etch stuff to sid |
| 19:47.28 | Elive_user63 | Would it make a difference if I switch the repository back? |
| 19:47.43 | Elive_user63 | I wasn't really planning on staying wtih unstable. |
| 19:48.36 | PrinceAMD | well switching is not a good idea |
| 19:48.39 | PrinceAMD | n sid is nice too |
| 19:48.42 | PrinceAMD | there is new stuff |
| 19:48.45 | PrinceAMD | more cool stuff |
| 19:48.53 | PrinceAMD | n well more unstable stuff n tuns of it |
| 19:49.31 | Elive_user63 | Yeah, I'm seeing that. I'd be happy just to get my menus and ibar back. |
| 19:50.21 | PrinceAMD | the emodules probably are removed |
| 19:50.37 | PrinceAMD | grr i am no help |
| 19:51.14 | Elive_user63 | Well, you're trying. That's better than no one listening like what usually happens. |
| 19:52.05 | Elive_user63 | I switched the repository back to etch and ran apt-get dist-upgrade. I wonder if that would make a difference. |
| 19:52.31 | PrinceAMD | ok so u switch back cool |
| 19:52.37 | PrinceAMD | u need to do apt-get update |
| 19:52.42 | PrinceAMD | then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:52.59 | Elive_user63 | Oh, ok. I didn't think to do the update. |
| 19:53.02 | Theoden | Is there a way to start an app in a specific pager window in gnome? |
| 19:53.32 | PrinceAMD | hi Theoden |
| 19:53.42 | Theoden | Hi PrinceAMD |
| 19:54.01 | PrinceAMD | Theoden, r u using gnome |
| 19:54.12 | Theoden | at the moment. |
| 19:55.08 | Elive_user63 | Ok, I'm going to try to restart the window manager. I'll be back in a minute. |
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| 20:09.13 | SuperpeZ | hola |
| 20:09.28 | keyra | SuperpeZ: que tal ? |
| 20:10.10 | SuperpeZ | bien keyra gracias |
| 20:12.39 | wasynyt | good evening people |
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| 20:30.33 | Elive_user63 | Well, I'm back. The ibar and menu items are still gone. |
| 20:41.56 | wasynyt | too bad |
| 20:41.57 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 20:43.29 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user63, welcome back |
| 20:43.38 | Elive_user63 | Thanks. |
| 20:43.53 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user63, alright now open synaptic go in elive section n see if well everything is installed |
| 20:43.57 | wasynyt | http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5986/screenie3ta0.png nice error |
| 20:43.58 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:45.36 | Elive_user63 | I'm not sure what I'm looking for. |
| 20:46.23 | Elive_user63 | Although I am completely removing KDE at the moment. |
| 20:48.29 | Elive_user63 | Ok, e17 is marked as installed. |
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| 20:54.43 | SamuraiDio | important: what kernel version(s) come with Elive Gem? |
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| 20:57.59 | Elive_user63 | Well, damn. It's looking more and more like I'm going to have to reinstall from the beginning. |
| 20:58.18 | Elive_user63 | I just can't figure out what part is broken. |
| 21:07.43 | Elive_user63 | So, if I'm checking out e17 from cvs, what exactly am I doing? |
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| 21:09.49 | PetoKraus | heya Theoden |
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| 21:14.02 | Elive_user63 | What does it do when you check out e17 with the cvs? |
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| 21:16.25 | wasynyt | sorry Elive_user63 i dont know.. i think that you might really need to either reinstall.. or use elive-skel |
| 21:16.39 | keyra | wasynyt: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System |
| 21:16.52 | wasynyt | keyra, thanks |
| 21:17.06 | keyra | wasynyt: welcome :) |
| 21:17.08 | PetoKraus | what does the elive-skel do anyways? |
| 21:17.17 | PetoKraus | i did not understand it |
| 21:17.50 | wasynyt | it restores the saved configuration for apps.. |
| 21:18.05 | PetoKraus | hmm |
| 21:18.11 | wasynyt | so that after some messing up you can bring the system to working state |
| 21:18.23 | PetoKraus | seems nice |
| 21:18.55 | wasynyt | yeah it really is |
| 21:19.41 | Elive_user63 | Just finished reading about it. I'm going to give it a try. Thanks keyra. |
| 21:19.45 | PetoKraus | how can you perform "backup"? |
| 21:19.55 | keyra | Elive_user63: welcome :) |
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| 21:21.59 | wasynyt | PetoKraus, not sure.. try just running elive-skel and see what it does |
| 21:22.00 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:22.13 | Elive_user63 | Ok, so I'm not sure I understand what to do. Do I just type elive-skel upgrade to set it back to the way it was? |
| 21:22.52 | wasynyt | hmm first make sure you have the originall applications installed |
| 21:23.03 | wasynyt | then elive-skel upgrade |
| 21:23.32 | Elive_user63 | Well, I don't know if anything has been removed. So I guess I'll just have to give it a try and see what happens. |
| 21:24.45 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 21:25.42 | Elive_user63 | Now it's giving me a list of things to choose from. I don't know what to choose so I'm going to try .enlightenment |
| 21:26.22 | Elive_user63 | Didn't work. |
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| 21:26.54 | wasynyt | what are the choices ? |
| 21:27.03 | Elive_user63 | There's a bunch. |
| 21:27.28 | Elive_user63 | It's a list of configuration files, I think. |
| 21:27.29 | wasynyt | try the .e one |
| 21:27.34 | wasynyt | yeah it is |
| 21:28.17 | Elive_user63 | Well, it doesn't look like it worked. I'm going to reboot and see if anything works. |
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| 21:31.57 | Elive_user63 | No luck. Trying elive-skel all |
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| 21:32.11 | keyra | Elive_user63: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System |
| 21:33.26 | wasynyt | tho elive-skel only able to control configuration files, so if some app is just not working then it cannot fix it |
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| 21:35.48 | Elive_user63 | I figured that's how it worked. And I think some files were removed or replaced with incompatible versions. If I knew which ones, I could just try replacing them. |
| 21:36.32 | Elive_user63 | HELL YEAH! elive-skel all worked right away. |
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| 21:37.13 | wasynyt | nice |
| 21:37.19 | wasynyt | so you got it going |
| 21:37.27 | RAVTUX | Theoden: how goes it? |
| 21:38.04 | Elive_user63 | All my Well, the ibar is back but the programs in my menus aren't. It's still running though so they'll probably come back in a minute. |
| 21:38.33 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:40.03 | PetoKraus | hmm |
| 21:40.09 | PetoKraus | FUCKING GODDAMNED JAVA! |
| 21:40.28 | Elive_user63 | So I guess you don't like java. |
| 21:40.37 | PetoKraus | i just tried to do something in it |
| 21:40.42 | PetoKraus | but it's just crap |
| 21:41.10 | wasynyt | apt give coffee beans to PetoKraus |
| 21:41.10 | apt | ACTION gives beans to PetoKraus to coffee |
| 21:41.22 | wasynyt | :S |
| 21:41.29 | wasynyt | that did not go right |
| 21:41.59 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 21:42.13 | wasynyt | apt give PetoKraus coffee beans |
| 21:42.14 | apt | ACTION gives coffee beans to PetoKraus |
| 21:42.20 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:42.54 | PetoKraus | i mean, i was testing what runs faster |
| 21:43.02 | PetoKraus | python code, or scheme code, or java code |
| 21:43.06 | PetoKraus | but... crap. |
| 21:43.50 | Theoden | RAVTUX: Good man - how are you? |
| 21:43.51 | wasynyt | hmm.. nothing goes ? |
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| 21:50.49 | Elive_user63 | Ok. elive-skel is done running but there are still no programs in the menus. The ibar works though. I'm going to restart and see if anything comes back. |
| 21:51.03 | keyra | Elive_user63: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System |
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| 21:54.07 | Elive_user63 | Well, rebooting made the ibar go away again. |
| 21:54.52 | wasynyt | do you have anything important app configs |
| 21:54.55 | wasynyt | like email |
| 21:54.56 | wasynyt | ? |
| 21:55.21 | Elive_user63 | I have iceweasel configured to download for two email accounts. |
| 21:55.27 | wasynyt | ok |
| 21:55.37 | wasynyt | copy it to safe location |
| 21:55.55 | wasynyt | it should be /home/me/.iceweasel |
| 21:56.08 | wasynyt | then after you have done that do |
| 21:56.20 | wasynyt | rm -R .* |
| 21:56.40 | wasynyt | and then elive-skel all |
| 21:56.55 | wasynyt | then restart |
| 21:57.07 | wasynyt | that will restore everything to defaults |
| 21:57.10 | PetoKraus | hmm |
| 21:57.43 | wasynyt | you need to make your original .iceweasel defealt again tho |
| 21:57.44 | Elive_user63 | Well, I can't find the .iceweasel but I can always reconfigure it. |
| 21:58.09 | wasynyt | do as yo usee fit |
| 21:58.16 | wasynyt | *you see |
| 21:58.25 | wasynyt | it might use .mozilla too |
| 21:59.02 | Elive_user63 | There's nothing like that in the home folder. |
| 21:59.10 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 21:59.37 | wasynyt | there must be some .something for it |
| 21:59.39 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 22:00.19 | Elive_user63 | The only things I can find like that are in the /etc/iceweasel directory. |
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| 22:00.48 | Elive_user63 | And those aren't .somethings. |
| 22:01.01 | wasynyt | nope.. personal config should be stored at home/me/.foo |
| 22:01.20 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.48 | Elive_user63 | Oh wait. It's a hidden file isn't it? |
| 22:01.54 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 22:01.58 | wasynyt | "hidden" |
| 22:02.06 | wasynyt | it is .something folder |
| 22:02.09 | wasynyt | or file |
| 22:02.13 | wasynyt | not really hidden |
| 22:02.21 | Elive_user63 | Ok. I found .mozilla |
| 22:02.25 | wasynyt | good |
| 22:02.59 | wasynyt | then just cp -R .mozilla /home/me/mozilla.bak |
| 22:03.05 | Elive_user63 | But it looks like that's for firefox. |
| 22:03.05 | wasynyt | for example |
| 22:03.20 | wasynyt | hmm iceweasel is firefox in the heart |
| 22:03.26 | wasynyt | if i remember correctly |
| 22:03.36 | wasynyt | you could check in and see what there is |
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| 22:04.19 | Elive_user63 | There is a firefox folder, a plugins folder and a file named appreg |
| 22:04.49 | wasynyt | you are sure there is no iceweasel folder ? |
| 22:04.55 | wasynyt | in your home |
| 22:04.56 | Elive_user63 | I found it. .mozilla-thunderbird |
| 22:05.04 | wasynyt | yup |
| 22:09.38 | Elive_user63 | Ok, now where am I performing the rm -R .* |
| 22:11.26 | wasynyt | in /home/me |
| 22:12.13 | Elive_user63 | Oh. I see. So I should save all my files somewhere first. |
| 22:13.04 | wasynyt | all you .something files |
| 22:13.25 | Elive_user63 | So it won't delete any pictures or anything? |
| 22:13.50 | Elive_user63 | Oh, never mind. |
| 22:13.54 | Elive_user63 | I figured it out. |
| 22:15.04 | Elive_user63 | Ok. |
| 22:16.58 | Elive_user63 | Now I can't get to a terminal to do the elive-skel all |
| 22:17.12 | keyra | Elive_user63: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System |
| 22:18.50 | wasynyt | yup |
| 22:18.57 | Elive_user63 | Sorry, but I can't get a browser up either. |
| 22:19.14 | wasynyt | after deleting the .something files |
| 22:19.18 | wasynyt | ? |
| 22:19.20 | Elive_user63 | Yeah. |
| 22:19.34 | wasynyt | can you start terminal |
| 22:19.39 | Elive_user63 | Nope. |
| 22:19.55 | PrinceAMD | apt-get install eterm |
| 22:19.57 | wasynyt | then do it from crtl+alt+f5 |
| 22:20.09 | Elive_user63 | Ok. |
| 22:20.14 | PrinceAMD | ctrl+esc n type eterm |
| 22:20.14 | wasynyt | you need to login there |
| 22:20.20 | PrinceAMD | fuck |
| 22:20.34 | wasynyt | hmm there is no config for it so it cannot work |
| 22:21.47 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.57 | wasynyt | as a last words before sleep |
| 22:22.13 | wasynyt | /etc/skel holds all default configs |
| 22:22.23 | wasynyt | so those can be copied by hand if needed |
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| 22:33.24 | PetoKraus | yeeecha, guys, did you see: |
| 22:33.25 | PetoKraus | http://youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4 |
| 22:44.51 | BoNz_[R] | PetoKraus, that is scary and creepy |
| 22:44.58 | PetoKraus | and old |
| 22:44.59 | PetoKraus | :D |
| 22:45.03 | BoNz_[R] | but cool kind of |
| 22:45.07 | PetoKraus | but it made my day, you know |
| 22:45.29 | PetoKraus | i didn't know that IBM is pro-linux |
| 22:45.32 | BoNz_[R] | I wonder why IBM is not putting their own Linux out ... or their own freebsd |
| 22:46.02 | PetoKraus | :D |
| 22:46.10 | BoNz_[R] | bah IBM is selling a lot of server to put Linux with JBOSS ... and now opensolaris apparently |
| 22:46.19 | BoNz_[R] | they sell services :)) |
| 22:46.23 | BoNz_[R] | all profit |
| 22:46.52 | PetoKraus | hmm... i see certain opensolaris boom |
| 22:47.14 | BoNz_[R] | did you see what is doing IBM with the DNA and the map of the traker genes, without saying the processors of all the video games ... |
| 22:47.15 | PetoKraus | maybe it's just me getting deeper (ie, more deep into shallow) of the problematics |
| 22:47.35 | PetoKraus | nope... |
| 22:47.41 | BoNz_[R] | no I think opensolaris is booming |
| 22:48.09 | BoNz_[R] | but yeah IBM is doing the processors for XBOX360 PS3 and Wii |
| 22:48.14 | BoNz_[R] | they got the market lol |
| 22:48.17 | PetoKraus | hehe |
| 22:48.40 | PetoKraus | wasn't solaris supposed to run on SPARC's? |
| 22:48.52 | BoNz_[R] | their is a compare stuff in IBM freeBSD and Linux ... |
| 22:49.01 | BoNz_[R] | PetoKraus, LOOOL |
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| 22:49.32 | BoNz_[R] | no Solaris is running on x86 since a while and SUN is selling servers with AMD opteron x64 |
| 22:49.38 | PetoKraus | hmm |
| 22:50.10 | BoNz_[R] | and you should see the number of company who got this solaris |
| 22:50.26 | PetoKraus | hmm... anyway |
| 22:50.29 | BoNz_[R] | Fujitsu and IBM are also partners allowed to sell Solaris |
| 22:50.35 | PetoKraus | i wanted to ask... what was that Novell-Windows thing? |
| 22:50.37 | BoNz_[R] | on their servers ... |
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| 22:51.26 | PetoKraus | cause it caused a lot of hassle, but i can't find the core... novellbuoycott just jumps straight into saying NO to novell.. |
| 22:51.29 | BoNz_[R] | PetoKraus, I'm not sure I think at the end is just about the codec wma and wmv, nobody know for sure but novell is doing good business since |
| 22:52.22 | BoNz_[R] | people want microsoft to open their format and microsoft want to be paid for be able to use its format |
| 22:52.42 | PetoKraus | hmm, yeah, i saw that whole OpenDocument - OOXML crap |
| 22:53.07 | BoNz_[R] | ooxml is a bit deeper, it is about the framework .NET 3.5 |
| 22:53.41 | BoNz_[R] | if you use their format, you have to buy office 2007, windows server 2008 and visual studio2008 |
| 22:54.01 | PetoKraus | i mean |
| 22:54.08 | PetoKraus | they are way to greedy |
| 22:54.11 | BoNz_[R] | so you are stuck with them if you want to do anything with the file in ooxml |
| 22:54.50 | BoNz_[R] | yeah, they are a company taking care of the market share |
| 22:55.05 | BoNz_[R] | very aggressive behaviour |
| 22:55.10 | PetoKraus | and the point is... everyone laughs at you when you use linux |
| 22:55.26 | BoNz_[R] | but nobody (despite sun and ibm) seems to do anything against |
| 22:55.37 | BoNz_[R] | lol you use linux ? |
| 22:55.40 | PetoKraus | and few "independent bloggers" |
| 22:55.42 | PetoKraus | :D |
| 22:55.46 | BoNz_[R] | (just joking) |
| 22:55.49 | PetoKraus | i got it |
| 22:56.07 | BoNz_[R] | I use linux and mac only since I worked as a technical support |
| 22:56.33 | BoNz_[R] | lol I was still working their when vista went on the market |
| 22:56.53 | PetoKraus | vista is just.... |
| 22:56.55 | BoNz_[R] | no so bad over all but the MAIL stuff bundled lol |
| 22:56.55 | PetoKraus | lost cause. |
| 22:57.09 | BoNz_[R] | ya if you look at the system reauirements |
| 22:57.16 | BoNz_[R] | *requirements |
| 22:57.18 | PetoKraus | on the other hand, memory boost is a good idea |
| 22:57.19 | BoNz_[R] | the joke |
| 22:57.39 | PetoKraus | though... i can't remember when was my sysmem under 1GB free. |
| 22:57.44 | BoNz_[R] | I have 100 processus on my ubuntu + compiz and no slow down ... |
| 22:57.58 | keyra | BoNz_[R]: xgl needs compiz WM, E is not compiz WM, the WM of E is E |
| 22:58.04 | BoNz_[R] | iam still on 1GB with a centrino 3 years old |
| 22:58.05 | PetoKraus | i use E17 and debian |
| 22:58.08 | PetoKraus | :D |
| 22:58.10 | PetoKraus | yeh |
| 22:59.02 | BoNz_[R] | I had a good run of elive also... pretty good stuff |
| 22:59.13 | PetoKraus | i used it as a first distro... |
| 22:59.22 | BoNz_[R] | actually less buggy that some ubuntu |
| 22:59.22 | PetoKraus | well.. basically it's true |
| 23:00.49 | BoNz_[R] | a friend gave me a old laptop which was always full of viruses, I gave him back with Linux and he sent me a text like: wahou very powerful your stuff |
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| 23:01.13 | BoNz_[R] | since he is using it when his girlfriend squat his pc |
| 23:02.33 | BoNz_[R] | and he installed flash alone |
| 23:03.27 | PetoKraus | hehe |
| 23:03.43 | PetoKraus | i am thinking about trying Linux from scratch |
| 23:05.20 | BoNz_[R] | get a HDD only for it you will avoid tears in case of ... |
| 23:05.30 | PetoKraus | yeah |
| 23:05.40 | PetoKraus | i was thinking in terms of |
| 23:05.44 | PetoKraus | "next summer break" |
| 23:05.54 | PetoKraus | or "on next laptop (ETA: 4 yrs)" |
| 23:09.06 | BoNz_[R] | ya my ETA for next laptop |
| 23:09.10 | BoNz_[R] | quad core cheap |
| 23:09.14 | BoNz_[R] | :x |
| 23:09.21 | BoNz_[R] | it is quite far |
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| 23:28.28 | elmo40 | kevin_: if it works when grub is set to nopcmcia, then it is a memory problem. |
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