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02:26.12Elive_user57coucou
02:26.15Elive_user57zut
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02:39.09Elive_user52hello
02:43.39Elive_user52i had a question about elive
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03:36.30*** topic/#elive is E17 is updated on the development versions, but stills inusable right now, you be warned! || Unofficial torrents serving up bad or malicious versions of elive, do not use non-official versions || eltrans: the new translator tool for Elive and E17 (ask keyra)
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03:41.01Elive_user52how do i get my wireless to work on elive
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04:31.13Elive_user74Alguien habla español
04:31.15Elive_user74=D
04:32.34Elive_user74hola
04:32.36Elive_user74hola
04:32.41Elive_user74alguien habla español
04:32.48keyraElive_user74: que tal ?
04:33.17Elive_user74hola
04:33.34Elive_user74puedo consultarte algo sobre el funcionamiento de Elive???
04:35.03Elive_user74alguien sabe en q directorio se encuentra el kernel de elive???
04:39.59Elive_user74:(
04:40.05Elive_user74bye bye
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06:55.24Elive_user91hi
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08:47.27qwertyhello
08:48.02qwertyi hsve misconfigured xorg.conf and now instead of entrance am getting a blank screen..help!
08:48.46qwertyi cant even switch sessions usin ctrl+alt+f1 etc :(
08:48.54qwertyhellllloo
08:49.35qwertyis there a way to loginto a terminal only??
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08:50.32qwertyo plz someone hear my screams of agony!
08:51.36qwerty.
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10:23.08AlexAnteMachinaanybody wants fresh coffee!?
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11:17.50AlexAnteMachinaWizard, ?
11:17.52AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, ?
11:17.55AlexAnteMachinaSuperpeZ, ?
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11:43.54WizardAlexAnteMachina: ?
11:44.00AlexAnteMachinahi ho!
11:44.49Wizardhello
11:45.08AlexAnteMachinahow r u?
11:47.45Wizardi feel terrible
11:47.59AlexAnteMachinay that?
11:48.08Wizardi don't know
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12:52.29kevin__hi
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13:24.33Wizardgood afternoon
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14:57.00AlexAnteMachinaone awake?
14:57.49AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, ?
14:57.52AlexAnteMachinaWizard, ?
14:58.17AlexAnteMachinahi!
14:58.22Wizardhello
14:58.31AlexAnteMachinagot better?
14:59.02AlexAnteMachinahave you ever used amarok?
15:00.56Wizardyes
15:01.12Wizardit's very good application
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15:01.46AlexAnteMachinaokay. good to know. I used to use it on my suse-system. Now i've installed it to elive, too.
15:03.58AlexAnteMachinai got 2 problems: 1. Is there any language-pack available? 2. Is it possible having the "put-to-system-tray when clicking the close-button" Funktion disabled?
15:05.13WizardAlexAnteMachina: you have to install kde language pack to have amarok translated
15:05.23AlexAnteMachinanice to know!
15:05.26AlexAnteMachinathanks!
15:05.28Wizardand you have to use kcontrol to actually set that language
15:05.36Wizardkde does not use LANG variables
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15:15.27AlexAnteMachinaand do you know wether it's possible having the applications closed when clicking the close-button?
15:16.00Wizardi don't think so
15:16.13Wizardlook at preferences
15:16.27AlexAnteMachinaI did.
15:17.23Wizardi don't know, currently i use mocp as my player
15:17.45AlexAnteMachinamocp?
15:17.49AlexAnteMachinanever heard about it.
15:17.56AlexAnteMachinawhat's its advantage?
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15:21.05AlexAnteMachinacant find mocp with synaptic
15:21.28Wizardhttp://mati.7ds.pl/moc.png
15:21.33Wizardit will be called moc
15:22.03AlexAnteMachinamusic on console
15:22.08AlexAnteMachinaam i right?
15:22.11Wizardyes
15:22.16AlexAnteMachinaoky
15:22.28AlexAnteMachinathats not what I need.
15:22.34AlexAnteMachinabut thanks anyway!
15:23.10AlexAnteMachinaI'm about to configure a PC for my mother.
15:23.52AlexAnteMachinaShe likes the possibilities a PC offers but is an absolutely non-technical person.
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15:26.08AlexAnteMachinaSo I need to keep it as simple and preconfigured as possible
15:32.16Wizard:)
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15:32.55AlexAnteMachinaand I'm still unsure which distribution to choose.
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15:33.23WizardAlexAnteMachina: screw linux, install freebsd ;)
15:33.35AlexAnteMachinahmmm?
15:33.38elmo44ha, u iz funny!
15:33.39elmo44:P
15:33.43elmo44anyways... MOO?
15:34.38elmo44i am trying 1.6, and added 'toram' in the grub menu. it said it was loading to ram (slowly increasing the percentage 'from /dev/hdd to ram')
15:34.44elmo44but then nothing happens
15:34.51elmo44xorg.conf doesnt populate
15:35.00elmo44no 'do u want to load ntfs partitions'
15:35.14keyraelmo44: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol)
15:35.23elmo44i get a shell, as far as i can tell, everything else loads.
15:35.52elmo44ifconfig gives me my net status, i can apt-get update.
15:35.54elmo44but what went wrong with X ? Any ideas?
15:36.09elmo44(and dont tell me cuz the boot sequence is in dev. ) LOL
15:36.51elmo44weird, even 'locate' isnt installed by default
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15:55.14elmo44what
15:55.16elmo44no one alive?
15:56.06AlexAnteMachinafreeBSD, especially PC-BSD, seems to be pretty interesting.
15:56.28Wizardfreebsd, especially not pc-bsd is interesting :)
15:56.33elmo44:P
15:56.44elmo44i put netBSD on my Jornada 690
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15:57.12elmo44Elive_user40: hi
15:57.18elmo44bonjours
15:57.19elmo44;)
15:57.56Escobarbonjour
15:57.59AlexAnteMachinaWizard, u r confusing me.
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15:58.26WizardAlexAnteMachina: that is my aim
15:58.47wasynytgood afternoon people
15:58.50AlexAnteMachinaI already feard it was.
15:58.52elmo44Escobar: commant ca va? (my french is very pour)
15:59.08Wizardconfuse, spread fear, so mighty bsd armies can strike and crush linux
15:59.15Wizardhello wasynyt :)
15:59.20Wizardso, i'm kind of spy
15:59.31wasynytWizard, stop spreading your propaganda
15:59.31wasynyt:P
15:59.42Escobarverry good thx , I m new user elive
15:59.47wasynytnice
16:00.00wasynythow are you doing Wizard, AlexAnteMachina and Escobar
16:00.11Wizardi'm better
16:00.19Wizardbetter than at morning
16:00.23AlexAnteMachinawasynyt, me, Wizard and Escobar are fine.
16:00.30AlexAnteMachina;)
16:00.30wasynytgood
16:00.31wasynyt:D
16:00.34Escobarsorry i speack a very bad english
16:00.43WizardEscobar: don't worry, me too
16:00.44wasynytheh
16:00.47elmo44speak what you can, we will try to figure it out :P
16:00.48Escobar:)
16:00.49AlexAnteMachinano problem.
16:00.58wasynyt:D
16:01.11AlexAnteMachinalol... and wait for Thana to show up.
16:01.15Wizard:D
16:01.18elmo44... waiting...
16:01.31elmo44Escobar: which version of Elive do you have?
16:01.35AlexAnteMachinaHe speaks Spanglish
16:02.30Wizardi also speak polish and understand russian, if you prefere
16:23.02FossZombieI've started to learn from the Filipinos at my work.
16:23.12ma_texsee you people
16:23.13FossZombieit's a lot like spanish
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17:08.43Elive_user80hi !
17:08.51wasynytgood evening Elive_user80
17:09.09Elive_user80I have some trouble with the key shortcut configuration.
17:09.30Elive_user80I try to explain
17:09.34Elive_user80I wanted to add a new shortcut, I failed and because I had changed by error others shortcut, I decided to reinit the shortcut and now all shortCut with "windows" key are disabled
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17:09.51wasynyt:S
17:09.53Elive_user80hi sativas
17:10.05wasynytis no good with keyboard shortcuts
17:10.06wasynyt:S
17:10.18Elive_user80do I must looking for a file config ?
17:10.38Elive_user80something bizarre : the "default" config aren't the starter config ?
17:10.46wasynyt:/
17:14.09Elive_user80mayb about profile ? can I transfer a "profile configuration (I think with the graphical assistant)" from one Elive/computer to an other ?
17:14.31wasynytwhat do you mean about profile
17:14.52Elive_user80I don't know : there is a profile loader/saver on the graphical configuration tools
17:15.06Elive_user80Enlightenment configuration panel
17:15.27Elive_user80-> advanced -> last item on the right panel
17:15.39wasynytyou can copy the .* folders and files from your /home/user . those folders and files that they contain are the settings
17:15.46wasynyti dont have elive at the moment
17:15.47Elive_user80I don't know what it is... that's why I ask.
17:16.01Elive_user80elive user without elive ?
17:16.23Elive_user80sorry for the joke
17:16.24wasynytwell those are in the elivecd's virtual filesystems home
17:16.50wasynytreplace the user with your login
17:18.07Elive_user80the profil selector shows one profile by default... the "default" profile. it's the same name for others users
17:18.19Elive_user80what do you say by "replace" ?
17:18.37wasynytwell if you have installed system
17:18.42Elive_user80yes
17:18.42sativasElive_user80, heya
17:18.53wasynytthere will be /home/yourlogin
17:19.12wasynytthat is the account folder where your personal stuff will be saved
17:19.26Elive_user80in .e/  directory ? .ecore ? .elive ?
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17:20.04Elive_user80.enlightenment perhaps ?
17:20.13wasynyti would say all of them
17:20.33wasynytconfigs are stored in many folders
17:21.00Elive_user80ok. thanks
17:21.39Elive_user80I think the "enlightenment configuration panel" don't allow to have again the starter config
17:21.40wasynytyour welcome
17:21.52wasynyt?
17:22.18wasynytyou can restore default settings by deleting all those .* folders and restarting
17:22.33Elive_user80sure ?
17:23.04Elive_user80because I don't want the default config... but the starter config
17:23.29wasynytwhat do you mean by starter config
17:24.00Elive_user80ok, I works on elive-unstable (not the last, but the previous last)
17:24.20wasynytare you working with livecd or installed
17:24.28Elive_user80when I create a new account, there are few shortcut win "ctrl-alt" and "win" key.
17:25.08Elive_user80with the enlightenment config panel, there is an option to reset by "default" the set of this shortcut
17:25.21Elive_user80but when I try this, the win + key shorcut disappear
17:25.26wasynyt:/
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17:26.14Elive_user80hello Elive_user71
17:26.17Elive_user80too late
17:26.36wasynytheh.. some have awful hurry
17:27.40Elive_user80ok, I try to delete the .e* directories.
17:28.45Elive_user80bad idea
17:29.21Elive_user80lost one profile config... and the win key don't appear.
17:29.57wasynytwell you need to remove those in the /home/user/.e
17:30.01wasynytand restart
17:30.16wasynytso that the system will remake those folders and files in them
17:30.50Elive_user80next step : restart enlightenment... ok
17:31.07Elive_user80nope
17:31.21Elive_user80do i must logout ?
17:31.31Elive_user80I have now the default theme
17:31.41wasynytthat is what you removed then
17:31.43Elive_user80because of rebuild of this directory and file config
17:31.53wasynytlogout should do
17:32.18Elive_user80ok, one again, remove all and logout
17:32.21Elive_user80see u soon
17:32.29wasynyt:D
17:32.32wasynytyup
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17:33.50Elive_user80hello again
17:34.01wasynytwelcome back
17:34.25Elive_user80key binding are the same
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17:35.50Elive_user80sorry for the shutdown
17:35.53Elive_user80one again
17:37.47Elive_user80ok, by chance I have on other Elive installed, I will copy the e* directories to restore my theme.
17:37.59wasynytyup
17:38.03elmo44is it the same version of E?
17:38.07Elive_user80yes
17:38.11elmo44sorry, just jumped in here :P
17:38.16elmo44wasynyt: keeping busy?
17:38.33wasynythuh
17:38.38wasynytme busy
17:38.47wasynytwho have been telling lies to you
17:39.04Elive_user80to who ?
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17:39.14wasynytgood evening elmo44
17:39.19elmo44wasynyt: no one is busy if they are here ;)
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17:39.23wasynytElive_user80, newer mind
17:39.28wasynyt:D
17:39.35Elive_user80never ? newer ?
17:39.55wasynytsays bah
17:39.58wasynytnever
17:40.12wasynyti think i want a beer
17:40.18Elive_user80or 2
17:40.20wasynytapt, give wasynyt a beer
17:40.21aptACTION hands wasynyt a cold beer
17:40.26wasynytnot too just one
17:40.29wasynyt*two
17:40.30elmo44green beer?
17:40.35wasynytapt slap wasynyt
17:40.35aptACTION slaps wasynyt, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
17:41.52wasynytelmo44 dark beer
17:42.11Elive_user80can't copy all the config files because the fat32 don't support pipe caracter (an other good idea perhaps)
17:42.14TheodenMorning Y'All
17:42.35wasynytgood evening Theoden
17:42.43wasynytElive_user80, why fat32
17:42.49Theoden:) - evening.
17:43.21Elive_user80because I don't enjoy to have 2 partitions (linux and windows 100% compatible) on my usb key
17:43.29wasynytElive_user80, make a tar out of those files
17:43.32wasynyttrue
17:43.36wasynytor zip
17:43.37keyraElive_user80: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems
17:43.38Elive_user80oups, sorry
17:43.43Elive_user80tarball
17:43.52wasynytyeah
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17:46.11elmo44Elive_user80: how are you copying? from what fs to what fs?
17:46.33Elive_user80"fs" ?
17:46.35elmo44and why are you using a | ?
17:46.37elmo44file system
17:46.41elmo44ext3 to fat32?
17:46.56Elive_user80ok, I have one file config with a long name... and the pipe caracter.
17:47.20Elive_user80i don't know hy enlightenment or elive use this caracter for the file name
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17:47.44elmo44i didnt know you can use the | in a name of a file...
17:48.05Elive_user80the fs question : I copy files config (reiserfs/Elive) to a usb key (FAT) to an  otherreiserfs/elive
17:48.39elmo44Elive_user80: to save space, tar.bz everything. then you wont have to worry about naming ;)
17:51.20Elive_user80ok, rebooting enlightenment
17:51.23wasynytagrees with elmo44
17:51.35Elive_user80looks good, check key binding
17:52.00Elive_user80ok, I think I have all
17:52.21elmo44sweet
17:52.23wasynytnice
17:52.36elmo44now, apt-get upgrade ;)
17:52.54wasynytrecomends doing update first
17:52.57elmo44wasynyt: reason why i asked green beer, is cuz of St Patty's day
17:53.05elmo44another reason to drink :P
17:53.07wasynytwho is st patty
17:53.25Elive_user80apt-get dist-update ?
17:53.28Elive_user80just update ?
17:53.30elmo44~apt who is st patty
17:53.32aptelmo44: I think you lost me on that one
17:53.42elmo44apt-get update
17:53.45elmo44apt-get upgrade
17:53.49elmo44need both
17:53.51Elive_user80ok
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17:54.00Wizardwasynyt: somebody related to Ireland
17:54.03wasynytk
17:54.09elmo44wasynyt: wiki it ;)
17:54.15wasynyti dont know irish traditions that well
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17:54.30wasynytis feeling lazy
17:54.39Wizardme too
17:54.45AlexAnteMachinacome over I got work enough
17:54.50Wizardi don't even know polish tradition
17:54.55elmo44http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Day
17:55.04AlexAnteMachinaWizard, your guilty.
17:55.08Elive_user80ok, see u later (for an other shortcut pb or an beer ?).bye
17:55.15Wizardwho cares?
17:55.18AlexAnteMachiname
17:55.47AlexAnteMachinaIt's you who's to blame that I had to try out a BSD-OS
17:57.44wasynytdo you feel like eating children
17:58.17WizardBSD/OS?
17:58.27Wizardi thought it was abaddoned
17:58.34Wizardwhere did you get it?
17:59.26n0madbrasero - hem how to specify burning speed on that ?
17:59.43n0madis throws only max speeed :/
18:04.58elmo44cdrecord <dev> -speed=## eject <file>
18:05.11elmo44people still use GUI ? ;)
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18:05.45wasynytgui can be considered usefull at times
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18:06.25Wizardyeah.. for example it can be used to quit itself
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18:08.09elmo44lol
18:08.18elmo44killall X
18:09.32wasynyt:D
18:12.52n0madelmo44 hmn well its not bad thing to start use gui :> but anyway its just easier way with gui (the i dont know at this moment any comand line and how to do ..)
18:13.18n0madthen*
18:13.35elmo44n0mad: i understand.
18:13.40n0mad:)
18:13.42wasynytdoubts
18:13.48elmo44as with windoze, there is a gui command to do everything.
18:14.01elmo44wasynyt: none of that.
18:14.08wasynytapt windoze
18:14.09aptfrom memory, windoze is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. If you play a Windows CD backwards you hear satanic messages. What's even more scary is if you play it forward, it installs Windows.
18:14.27wasynytso widoze = windows ?
18:14.38elmo44apt windows
18:14.38apthmm... windows is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs
18:14.53elmo44~xp
18:14.54aptit has been said that xp is an operating system that has a UI designed by a 2 year old with a handful of crayons
18:15.02wasynyt:P
18:15.02elmo44~vista
18:15.03aptextra, extra, read all about it, vista is just lame. :)
18:15.07elmo44lol
18:15.10elmo44~me
18:15.14elmo44~you
18:15.15aptfrom memory, apt is not as cool as jbot
18:15.16n0mad:)
18:15.23elmo44~n0mad
18:15.24wasynytapt wasynyt
18:15.24aptextra, extra, read all about it, wasynyt is like, a weird slapping, or liking cervesa and vodka
18:15.32elmo44~elmo40
18:15.32apthmm... elmo40 is a canuck of estonian descent, and the master of nick completion
18:15.33diabetikelmo44: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
18:15.45elmo44stupid diabetik
18:15.46n0madstop it :) killall apt :>
18:16.05wasynytdiabetik, bot
18:16.25wasynytn0mad, what is wrong with this bod madness
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18:16.45n0mad:) is bill there somewhere ?
18:16.57wasynytapt bill
18:16.57aptfrom memory, bill is the CEO of Micro$oft. A billionare.
18:17.09wasynytno i dont think bill is here
18:17.12n0madapt killall
18:17.13aptrumour has it, killall is a bad idea on non GNU platforms, or ok on BSD, too
18:17.36wasynytapt shutdown -f
18:17.43wasynytapt shutdown
18:17.52wasynyt:(
18:17.53n0madxD
18:17.59n0madkilled
18:18.01n0madalready
18:18.07wasynytapt shoot n0mad
18:18.08aptACTION shoots n0mad in the eye with a phase pistol!
18:18.17n0madfaaak
18:18.22n0madxd
18:18.25wasynytnot so fast my friend
18:18.30n0mad:}
18:18.40n0madeh :)
18:19.09wasynyt..
18:19.18wasynytgoes to do something else for awhile
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20:45.43Elive_user78gdgd
20:47.33Elive_user78D
20:50.26jazzhello !!
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23:59.26roxvilleNathanExplosion,  hey bro, how are you?
23:59.50roxvillei have been crazy busy all weekend, sorry for not responding earlier

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