IRC log for #elive on 20080318

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`00:39.17`	`Limericist`	`hi`
`00:39.53`	`Limericist`	`My you tube is not working in opera, can anyone tell me how to get it going?`
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`01:41.23`	`Dammitjim`	`evening`
`01:45.29`	`Dammitjim`	`how is everyone doing?`
`01:45.32`	`Dammitjim`	`Happy St. Pats`
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`02:02.31`	`Elive_user19`	`hello`
`02:02.32`	`Elive_user19`	`oO`
`02:02.42`	`Elive_user19`	`does anyone speak spanish?`
`02:02.50`	`Elive_user19`	`need info about this kewl distro`
`02:03.01`	`Dammitjim`	`yo hablo espanol`
`02:03.06`	`Elive_user19`	`holas!`
`02:03.18`	`Dammitjim`	`como estas?`
`02:03.21`	`keyra`	`Elive_user19: que tal ?`
`02:03.22`	`Elive_user19`	`bien bien`
`02:03.34`	`Elive_user19`	`miren, no se si alguien me puede ayudar`
`02:03.45`	`Elive_user19`	`es que quiero instalar esto en mi vaio o.O`
`02:03.49`	`Elive_user19`	`pero, tengo Windows Vista`
`02:03.53`	`Dammitjim`	`ok`
`02:03.57`	`Dammitjim`	`que quieres instalar?`
`02:04.00`	`Elive_user19`	`saben algo del multibooting hacerca de los 2?`
`02:04.01`	`Dammitjim`	`Elive Gem?`
`02:04.08`	`Elive_user19`	`ps el Elive sin perder el vista`
`02:04.09`	`Elive_user19`	`sip`
`02:04.15`	`Dammitjim`	`no hay problema`
`02:04.16`	`Elive_user19`	`es que luego hay muchos problemas de booteo`
`02:04.17`	`Dammitjim`	`instala no mas Elive`
`02:04.21`	`Elive_user19`	`aja o.O`
`02:04.26`	`Dammitjim`	`quien te dijo?`
`02:04.29`	`Dammitjim`	`o tu experimentaste?`
`02:04.30`	`keyra`	`Elive_user19: If you have boot problems better to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf`
`02:04.31`	`Elive_user19`	`no no, nadie me dijo`
`02:04.42`	`Dammitjim`	`tu trataste?`
`02:04.47`	`Elive_user19`	`me ha pasado con otras distro`
`02:04.51`	`Dammitjim`	`ah ya`
`02:04.56`	`Elive_user19`	`nop, no he tratado... osea que no hay problema?`
`02:04.57`	`Dammitjim`	`bueno, yo tambien tuve un problema parecido`
`02:05.06`	`Dammitjim`	`pero mientras tu sepas cual es tu boot partition de vista`
`02:05.15`	`Dammitjim`	`se lo puede agregar al boot de Elive`
`02:05.19`	`Elive_user19`	`ahh o.o`
`02:05.22`	`Dammitjim`	`generalmente no hay`
`02:05.30`	`Dammitjim`	`pero si hay algun problema, no es dificil arreglarlo`
`02:05.56`	`Dammitjim`	`es mas`
`02:06.01`	`Dammitjim`	`a lo que instalas Elive, te pregunta`
`02:06.12`	`Urtiel`	`ahh`
`02:06.25`	`Urtiel`	`osea que no debe haber problema?`
`02:06.30`	`Dammitjim`	`no`
`02:06.30`	`Urtiel`	`bien, pues lo intentarÃ©`
`02:06.41`	`Urtiel`	`porque ahora mismo lo estoy usando de un live cd, y me parece muy bueno`
`02:07.09`	`Urtiel`	`em, y no es buena idea extender la particiÃ³n del vista?`
`02:07.34`	`Dammitjim`	`a que te refieres con extenderla?`
`02:07.47`	`Dammitjim`	`o si quieres estar mas seguro de que no danas nada`
`02:07.54`	`Dammitjim`	`puedes usar VMware workstation`
`02:08.03`	`Dammitjim`	`e instalarla en un virtual machine dentro de vista`
`02:09.05`	`Urtiel`	`uh, pues sÃ`
`02:09.22`	`Urtiel`	`mmm, de todos modos probarÃ© instalarlo`
`02:09.28`	`Dammitjim`	`ya pues`
`02:09.32`	`Urtiel`	`y es que tengo otro pequeÃ±o gran problema xD`
`02:09.33`	`Dammitjim`	`y si tienes problemas, regresa aqui`
`02:09.40`	`Dammitjim`	`que problema?`
`02:09.54`	`Urtiel`	`pues por ejemplo, no reconoce la baterÃa de la lap`
`02:10.02`	`Dammitjim`	`en que version?`
`02:10.05`	`Urtiel`	`(eso creo que es un problema comÃºn en las VAIO :S)`
`02:10.16`	`Dammitjim`	`oh si?`
`02:10.25`	`Urtiel`	`puede ser, porque he leido en foros`
`02:10.31`	`Dammitjim`	`oh`
`02:10.57`	`Urtiel`	`bueno, pero gracias por la informaciÃ³n, tratarÃ© y volverÃ© por aquÃ para ver cÃ³mo me fue`
`02:11.00`	`Dammitjim`	`bueno, tal vez si se arregle`
`02:11.05`	`Urtiel`	`muchÃsimas gracias por todo xD`
`02:11.14`	`Urtiel`	`pues, serÃa muy bueno... de verdad serÃa genial`
`02:11.27`	`Urtiel`	`porque soy estudiante de ingenierÃa en sistemas, y pues me hace falta una buena distro de linux`
`02:11.40`	`Urtiel`	`y esta me ha llamado mucho la atenciÃ³n`
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`02:12.18`	`Dammitjim`	`vas a ver que te va a fascinar`
`02:12.23`	`Dammitjim`	`no es perfecta, pero es muy buena`
`02:12.32`	`Urtiel`	`tÃº eres developer?`
`02:12.56`	`Dammitjim`	`no`
`02:13.01`	`Dammitjim`	`pero tengo usando elive por 2 anos ya`
`02:13.03`	`Dammitjim`	`tal vez mas`
`02:13.22`	`Urtiel`	`alaaaaaaaaaa, quÃ© bien xD`
`02:13.28`	`Dammitjim`	`me encanta`
`02:13.36`	`Dammitjim`	`pero que version vas a instalar?`
`02:13.50`	`Urtiel`	`la 1.0`
`02:13.56`	`Urtiel`	`es la versiÃ³n estable no?`
`02:14.06`	`Urtiel`	`porque vi una 1.6 pero decÃa que era para test`
`02:14.09`	`Urtiel`	`cuÃ¡l me recomiendas=`
`02:14.11`	`Urtiel`	`?`
`02:15.40`	`Dammitjim`	`sip`
`02:15.44`	`Dammitjim`	`igual 1.6 no se puede instalar`
`02:15.50`	`Urtiel`	`oh`
`02:15.55`	`Urtiel`	`entonces la 1.0 estÃ¡ bien?`
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`02:17.09`	`Dammitjim`	`asi es`
`02:17.11`	`Dammitjim`	`metele 1.0!`
`02:17.46`	`Urtiel`	`ok xD, eso es jaja`
`02:18.05`	`Dammitjim`	`jua`
`02:19.16`	`Dammitjim`	`bueno`
`02:19.20`	`Dammitjim`	`buena suerte!`
`02:20.05`	`Urtiel`	`ok, gracias... luego nos veremos por aquÃ`
`02:22.25`	`Dammitjim`	`nos vemos`
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`05:02.10`	`PrinceAMD`	`slade991, r u there?`
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`05:13.02`	`Elive_user51`	`buenas :P`
`05:13.17`	`keyra`	`Elive_user51: nas nas`
`05:13.35`	`Urtiel`	`ya instalÃ© elive :O`
`05:13.55`	`kurama10`	`que tal Urtiel`
`05:13.56`	`Urtiel`	`pero ahora no sale Windows Vista en el grub xD`
`05:14.03`	`kurama10`	`ok`
`05:14.30`	`Urtiel`	`he visto algunos editores de grub, quÃ© me recomiendan ?`
`05:14.51`	`kurama10`	`vete a /boot/grub`
`05:15.02`	`kurama10`	`por consoÃ±a`
`05:15.07`	`kurama10`	`*consola`
`05:15.16`	`Urtiel`	`ok ahÃ estoy`
`05:15.58`	`kurama10`	`una pregunta cuantas particiones tienes en tu disco`
`05:16.00`	`kurama10`	`?`
`05:16.16`	`Urtiel`	`uhm, solo 2`
`05:16.33`	`kurama10`	`ok`
`05:17.05`	`kurama10`	`abre con "vi" el archivo menu.lst`
`05:17.15`	`Urtiel`	`ya`
`05:18.33`	`kurama10`	`dame un minuto por fa`
`05:18.47`	`Urtiel`	`ok, con gusto :P`
`05:21.51`	`kurama10`	`ok`
`05:21.53`	`kurama10`	`yap`
`05:22.11`	`kurama10`	`ahora solo agrega en la parte de abajo estas lineas`
`05:22.45`	`Urtiel`	`si?`
`05:23.25`	`kurama10`	`# on la identificacion de la aprticion`
`05:23.26`	`kurama10`	`title Windows Vistas`
`05:23.26`	`kurama10`	`root (hd0,o)`
`05:23.26`	`kurama10`	`savedefault`
`05:23.39`	`kurama10`	`lo guardas y reinicias`
`05:24.15`	`kurama10`	`es cero`
`05:24.27`	`kurama10`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:25.47`	`kurama10`	`eso lo agregas en la parte de abajo de las lineas que ya tenias`
`05:26.26`	`kurama10`	`siempre haz un respaldo antes de modificarlo`
`05:26.53`	`Urtiel`	`ok ok`
`05:27.28`	`Urtiel`	`no tengo que poner boot abajo de savedefault?`
`05:28.27`	`kurama10`	`mmm`
`05:28.36`	`kurama10`	`mira ponlo de esta manera`
`05:28.39`	`Urtiel`	`o.O`
`05:28.42`	`Urtiel`	`ya lo hice xD`
`05:28.46`	`Urtiel`	`a ver`
`05:28.51`	`kurama10`	`title "Windows Vista"`
`05:28.51`	`kurama10`	`> root (sd0,0)`
`05:28.51`	`kurama10`	`> chainloader +1`
`05:29.00`	`kurama10`	`pero hay que ver que tipo de disco tienes`
`05:29.06`	`kurama10`	`si es sata pata`
`05:29.31`	`kurama10`	`si es sata va sd0,0 si es hda es hd0,0`
`05:29.32`	`Urtiel`	`no es sata, es del otro`
`05:29.37`	`kurama10`	`ok`
`05:29.40`	`kurama10`	`hd`
`05:29.46`	`kurama10`	`en tu menu te dice`
`05:30.28`	`Urtiel`	`sip, lo voy a probar`
`05:30.29`	`Urtiel`	`gracias`
`05:30.32`	`kurama10`	`ok`
`05:30.40`	`kurama10`	`estamos aqui cuando reinicies`
`05:31.13`	`Urtiel`	`ok, gracias :P`
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`05:49.27`	`Urtiel`	`hola de nuevo`
`05:49.41`	`keyra`	`Urtiel: que tal ?`
`05:49.46`	`Urtiel`	`kurama, estÃ¡s por ahÃ? xD?`
`05:49.53`	`Urtiel`	`bueno, sigo con lo del grub`
`05:50.01`	`Urtiel`	`no me carga el win vista`
`05:52.43`	`Urtiel`	`si alguien me puede ayudar =P`
`05:57.47`	`Urtiel`	`lalala alguien por ahÃ?`
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`06:00.01`	`kurama10`	`perdon es que sali`
`06:00.05`	`kurama10`	`Urtiel,`
`06:00.06`	`Urtiel`	`oo`
`06:00.08`	`Urtiel`	`hola hola`
`06:00.18`	`kurama10`	`no lo cargo`
`06:00.19`	`kurama10`	`?`
`06:00.22`	`keyra`	`Urtiel: que tal ?`
`06:00.38`	`Urtiel`	`no lo caro`
`06:00.41`	`Urtiel`	`cargo*`
`06:01.02`	`Urtiel`	`es que mira`
`06:01.06`	`Urtiel`	`en el gparted`
`06:01.34`	`kurama10`	`aha`
`06:01.39`	`Urtiel`	`sale hd1 (windows) hda2 (elive) y hda3 swap`
`06:02.17`	`kurama10`	`ok`
`06:02.40`	`kurama10`	`pueba poniendo esto`
`06:02.43`	`kurama10`	`title mierdi vista`
`06:02.43`	`kurama10`	`root (hd0,0)`
`06:02.47`	`kurama10`	`nada mas`
`06:03.27`	`kurama10`	`quita el otro que pusimos y reinicia`
`06:03.38`	`Urtiel`	`o.O`
`06:04.07`	`Urtiel`	`pero no tiene ke ver ke diga hd1?`
`06:04.11`	`Urtiel`	`weno lo kitare y te digo`
`06:04.16`	`kurama10`	`no`
`06:04.33`	`kurama10`	`cuando esta en hd1 es = a hd0,0`
`06:04.44`	`kurama10`	`es el disco uno la particion 0`
`06:04.56`	`Urtiel`	`ah ok`
`06:04.59`	`kurama10`	`es la particion 1`
`06:05.01`	`Urtiel`	`porque de hecho en el gparted me sale`
`06:05.24`	`Urtiel`	`/dev/hda1 <- por windows`
`06:05.35`	`Urtiel`	`ok probarÃ© y te digo`
`06:05.37`	`kurama10`	`si`
`06:06.00`	`kurama10`	`si viste tu grub como estaba no`
`06:06.26`	`Urtiel`	`sip`
`06:06.38`	`Urtiel`	`bueno probare`
`06:07.02`	`FossZombie`	`HP announces its going to sell linux laptop/desktops they will be sold with novell suse but drivers avaliable for other distros`
`06:08.00`	`kurama10`	`ok FossZombie good news`
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`06:13.04`	`Urtiel`	`pues nada xD`
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`06:13.14`	`Urtiel`	`ya leÃ en un foro que agregandole chainloader+1`
`06:13.17`	`Urtiel`	`verÃ© si eso funciona`
`06:13.21`	`kurama10`	`ok`
`06:13.30`	`kurama10`	`se me hace raro , ya que yo lo tengo asi`
`06:13.44`	`Urtiel`	`mmm, pues sÃ`
`06:14.04`	`Urtiel`	`pero, tÃº primero instalaste Win Vista y luego Elive?`
`06:14.08`	`kurama10`	`e instalao otras aquinas con elive y con ubuntu y asi lo pongo`
`06:14.31`	`kurama10`	`solo redimencione el disco desde vista y luego ellinux`
`06:14.42`	`kurama10`	`lo instale`
`06:15.22`	`Urtiel`	`uhm, si eso veo`
`06:15.25`	`Urtiel`	`igual e hice algo mal`
`06:15.39`	`Urtiel`	`yo redimencionÃ© con el gparted y todavÃa funcionaba bien el vista`
`06:15.49`	`Urtiel`	`ya reinicio`
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`06:25.36`	`Elive_user51`	`l`
`06:25.44`	`Urtiel`	`pues sÃ funcionÃ³ con el chainloader +1`
`06:25.45`	`Urtiel`	`xD`
`06:25.58`	`Urtiel`	`muchÃsimas gracias :P`
`06:33.14`	`wasynyt`	`apt give wasynyt a cup of tee`
`06:33.15`	`apt`	`ACTION gives a cup of tee to wasynyt`
`06:33.21`	`wasynyt`	`apt thanks`
`06:33.21`	`apt`	`de rien, wasynyt`
`06:34.05`	`kurama10`	`ok Urtiel`
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`07:16.02`	`n0mad`	`hi, with methods (ifconfig is enough, to see?) is most informative to check what aliases is set to ethernet card ?`
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`07:49.38`	`Urtiel`	`is away: See my screenshots http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots`
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`08:46.42`	`n0mad`	`hey, is elive using some auto sys-loggs writing tools/services on - ?`
`08:48.10`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hi`
`09:22.53`	`slade991`	`morning`
`09:24.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hi slade991`
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`09:57.25`	`slade991`	`need some little help`
`09:57.28`	`slade991`	`got some probleme`
`09:57.32`	`slade991`	`with e17genmenu`
`09:57.38`	`slade991`	`Checking For /usr/share/menu...`
`09:57.38`	`slade991`	`Checking For Files In /usr/share/menu`
`09:57.38`	`slade991`	`* glibc detected * free(): invalid pointer: 0x080586bd ***`
`09:57.38`	`slade991`	`Abandon`
`09:57.50`	`slade991`	`malloc problem ?`
`09:57.56`	`slade991`	`if somebody got an hint`
`09:59.19`	`watchwolf`	`slade991, e17genmenu is no more use`
`09:59.30`	`watchwolf`	`e17 follow he freedesktop specification`
`09:59.44`	`slade991`	`ok`
`09:59.53`	`slade991`	`how can i actualize the menu of e17 then?`
`10:06.10`	`watchwolf`	`slade991, look this folder: /etc/xdg/menus/`
`10:06.20`	`slade991`	`ok thx`
`10:07.11`	`slade991`	`watchwolf, iu don't have /etc/xdg/menus`
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`10:07.17`	`slade991`	`got /etc/menu`
`10:07.26`	`watchwolf`	`slade991, hum I m on gentoo >.<`
`10:07.27`	`slade991`	`and then Thunar or xfce4`
`10:07.35`	`slade991`	`:p`
`10:07.39`	`watchwolf`	`maybe it'sd etc/menu, you should have some files as applications.menu`
`10:07.56`	`slade991`	`og tit`
`10:07.58`	`slade991`	`got it`
`10:08.03`	`slade991`	`but just README on it`
`10:08.14`	`watchwolf`	`try: echo $XDG_CONFIG_DIR`
`10:08.27`	`slade991`	`ok its explain onto the read me`
`10:08.32`	`watchwolf`	`or "locate applications.menu"`
`10:08.39`	`watchwolf`	`oki`
`10:08.52`	`PrinceAMD`	`having problems with menu?`
`10:09.08`	`slade991`	`when i install some thing`
`10:09.14`	`slade991`	`they don"t appeared on menu`
`10:09.20`	`slade991`	`and e17genmenu don't work`
`10:09.27`	`slade991`	`(speaking about 1.0)`
`10:09.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`slade991, where can i get e17genmenu?`
`10:10.03`	`slade991`	`type in a terminal`
`10:10.15`	`watchwolf`	`e17genmenu is a very old application, now e17 use the freedesktop specification`
`10:10.19`	`PrinceAMD`	`root@Elive[/home/PrinceAMD]# e17genmenu`
`10:10.20`	`slade991`	`but watchwolf was saying that e17genmenu was obsolete`
`10:10.21`	`PrinceAMD`	`bash: e17genmenu: command not found`
`10:10.31`	`slade991`	`PrinceAMD, 1.0 ?`
`10:10.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`nope`
`10:10.44`	`slade991`	`that's why`
`10:10.45`	`slade991`	`i think`
`10:10.48`	`slade991`	`work on 1.0`
`10:10.48`	`PrinceAMD`	`oh ur playing with oldie :)`
`10:10.54`	`slade991`	`yea`
`10:10.56`	`watchwolf`	`1 yars ago, e17 used his own file (.eap) and e17genmenu created these files`
`10:10.59`	`slade991`	`1.6 don't work on ati`
`10:11.08`	`slade991`	`or without 3d acceleration`
`10:11.19`	`slade991`	`that's why i got 1.6 on nvidia et 1.0 on ati :p`
`10:11.25`	`watchwolf`	`with the new system, a package create a .desktop file and add a entry in applications.menu`
`10:11.28`	`PrinceAMD`	`hehe`
`10:11.33`	`watchwolf`	`and e17, gnome, kde ... used this file`
`10:11.38`	`slade991`	`ok`
`10:11.57`	`slade991`	`does somebody try picasa on elive ?`
`10:12.06`	`PrinceAMD`	`yes it works :)`
`10:12.09`	`slade991`	`got problem too -Ã§-`
`10:12.10`	`slade991`	`-_-`
`10:12.15`	`slade991`	`install without problem`
`10:12.18`	`PrinceAMD`	`but if u got like 40,000 images it will go crazy`
`10:12.20`	`slade991`	`but when launching`
`10:12.23`	`slade991`	`got a prompt`
`10:12.24`	`slade991`	`with`
`10:12.46`	`slade991`	`Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x003c002f at address`
`10:12.47`	`slade991`	`0x7ff9e9fa`
`10:12.47`	`slade991`	`Do you wish to debug it ?`
`10:12.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`wtf`
`10:13.03`	`slade991`	`don't know`
`10:13.05`	`slade991`	`1.0 too`
`10:13.06`	`PrinceAMD`	`i never got an error with it`
`10:13.21`	`slade991`	`seems to be another malloc problem XD`
`10:13.44`	`slade991`	`the address must be in use`
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`10:14.23`	`PrinceAMD`	`slade991, u can get ati working on 1.6`
`10:14.46`	`slade991`	`PrinceAMD, in fact fglrx dont work with 2.6.24`
`10:14.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`the kernel module is there`
`10:14.57`	`slade991`	`said me to downgrade my kernel`
`10:14.57`	`PrinceAMD`	`WTF`
`10:15.02`	`PrinceAMD`	`on any system?`
`10:15.12`	`slade991`	`on my ati system`
`10:15.20`	`slade991`	`in fact`
`10:15.26`	`slade991`	`work with glx`
`10:15.29`	`watchwolf`	`slade991, you need the last driver I suppose`
`10:15.34`	`slade991`	`but without 3d acceleration`
`10:15.41`	`slade991`	`i try with the last one`
`10:15.41`	`PrinceAMD`	`hm...`
`10:15.59`	`watchwolf`	`I used the last fglrx driver with 2.6.24 on gentoo`
`10:16.13`	`PrinceAMD`	`maybe u need to install fglrx-glx`
`10:16.29`	`PrinceAMD`	`the kernel module is in elive 1.6 but not fglrx-glx`
`10:16.39`	`slade991`	`i try long time iwth a friend better than me on linux`
`10:16.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`apt-get install fglrx-glx should fix it`
`10:16.46`	`slade991`	`and finally said me`
`10:16.55`	`slade991`	`the only solution was to downgrade my kernel`
`10:17.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`:(`
`10:17.58`	`watchwolf`	`or install the driver from the website of amd`
`10:18.47`	`slade991`	`ok try to reinstall picasa`
`10:18.49`	`slade991`	`same error`
`10:19.04`	`PrinceAMD`	`maybe a wine problem`
`10:19.14`	`slade991`	`maybe :/`
`10:19.24`	`watchwolf`	`maybe a fglrx pb :)`
`10:19.38`	`slade991`	`:p`
`10:19.47`	`watchwolf`	`since the driver is called catalyst, guild wars doesn't work :/`
`10:19.53`	`slade991`	`ok i juste launch wine for see`
`10:19.59`	`slade991`	`xwhen i try to configure elive said me`
`10:20.11`	`slade991`	`Wine called with no arguments.`
`10:20.11`	`slade991`	`Invoking /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin ...`
`10:20.11`	`slade991`	`wine: creating configuration directory '/home/slade/.wine'...`
`10:20.11`	`slade991`	`wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x003c0023 at address 0x7bc28bc3 (thread 0009), starting debugger...`
`10:20.11`	`slade991`	`wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x7bc298cc (thread 000b), starting debugger...`
`10:20.13`	`slade991`	`wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x7bc298cc (thread 000d), starting debugger...`
`10:20.16`	`slade991`	`err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7f956060 "x11drv_main.c: X11DRV_CritSection" wait timed out in thread 0009, blocked by 0000, retrying (60 sec)`
`10:20.19`	`slade991`	`err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7e9c0060 "x11drv_main.c: X11DRV_CritSection" wait timed out in thread 000d, blocked by 0000, retrying (60 sec)`
`10:20.22`	`slade991`	`err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7e9ba060 "x11drv_main.c: X11DRV_CritSection" wait timed out in thread 000b, blocked by 0000, retrying (60 sec)`
`10:20.41`	`PrinceAMD`	`ouch`
`10:21.06`	`PrinceAMD`	`try removing wine completely n reinstall it`
`10:22.13`	`slade991`	`done`
`10:22.14`	`slade991`	`same`
`10:22.15`	`slade991`	`:/`
`10:22.26`	`PrinceAMD`	`rm -r .wine`
`10:23.00`	`slade991`	`he said me there is no .wine`
`10:23.04`	`slade991`	`where is located .wine ?`
`10:23.12`	`PrinceAMD`	`home dir`
`10:23.38`	`slade991`	`got`
`10:23.39`	`slade991`	`slade@slade_laptop[~]$ rm -r .wine-`
`10:23.40`	`slade991`	`.wine-xFAVHm/ .wine-Z1gakx/`
`10:24.52`	`PrinceAMD`	`there is no .wine?`
`10:25.00`	`slade991`	`no`
`10:25.06`	`slade991`	`just these too directory`
`10:25.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`strange`
`10:25.29`	`PrinceAMD`	`very strange`
`10:25.44`	`slade991`	`XD`
`10:25.58`	`slade991`	`that something making me laught`
`10:26.04`	`slade991`	`got no probleme with developpement 1.6`
`10:26.09`	`slade991`	`and a lot with stable 1.0`
`10:26.11`	`slade991`	`XD`
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`10:37.23`	`Urtiel`	`hi, does anyone have installed beryl or compiz fusion on elive?`
`10:37.38`	`keyra`	`Urtiel: xgl needs compiz WM, E is not compiz WM, the WM of E is E`
`10:38.30`	`Urtiel`	`O.o!!`
`10:38.50`	`Urtiel`	`in other words, i can't install it xD?`
`10:39.26`	`slade991`	`http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-643655.html?sid=c35358d64120e39e135df69e3cdd04d8`
`10:39.29`	`slade991`	`its possible`
`10:39.47`	`Urtiel`	`ohh ok thx`
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`10:52.58`	`watchwolf`	`slade991, you have run winecfg ?`
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`11:02.50`	`slade991`	`i'm trying to print`
`11:02.52`	`slade991`	`with hp`
`11:02.57`	`slade991`	`but got an error while printing`
`11:03.01`	`slade991`	`got the hplip driver`
`11:03.08`	`slade991`	`but elive said me generic printer`
`11:03.14`	`slade991`	`somebody got an hint ?`
`11:17.59`	`slade991`	`pok find alone ;)`
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`12:58.13`	`Dammitjim`	`how is it going, everybody????`
`13:21.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`good good`
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`13:31.00`	`Dammitjim`	`great`
`13:31.01`	`Dammitjim`	`:)`
`13:31.05`	`PrinceAMD`	`:)`
`13:35.09`	`Wizard`	`good afternoon`
`13:36.48`	`PrinceAMD`	`good afternoon Wizard`
`13:40.18`	`Wizard`	`wassup?`
`13:41.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`not much`
`13:44.45`	`Wizard`	`damn`
`13:45.07`	`Wizard`	`it's 14:45, i'm sitting at work and i'm still hangovered after yesterday night`
`13:47.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`WTF`
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`13:47.26`	`PrinceAMD`	`how do u manage working when u feel like that Wizard`
`13:47.46`	`DammitJim`	`what wizard?`
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`13:50.36`	`DammitJim`	`Prince... is there anything special you do to boot from USB?`
`13:50.40`	`Wizard`	`PrinceAMD: like usual`
`13:51.15`	`Wizard`	`DammitJim: what fo you mean by 'what wizard'?`
`13:51.15`	`PrinceAMD`	`DammitJim, yes`
`13:51.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`Wizard, u have to ease up u know`
`13:51.44`	`DammitJim`	`LMAO... I thought you meant you wandted a wizardd`
`13:51.53`	`DammitJim`	`for managing work`
`13:51.59`	`DammitJim`	`lol`
`13:52.11`	`DammitJim`	`on a separate note... I wanted to know how to boot from USB`
`13:52.47`	`PrinceAMD`	`let's see`
`13:53.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`DammitJim, type elive 1.6 on flash disk in www.google.com`
`13:53.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`the frist result should be the best :)`
`13:53.21`	`DammitJim`	`shut up!`
`13:53.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`man just do it`
`13:53.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`i wrote howto do it`
`13:53.37`	`PrinceAMD`	`n it on google`
`13:53.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`so i wanna show off so... HEHE`
`13:54.34`	`DammitJim`	`that's all there is to it?`
`13:54.39`	`DammitJim`	`you suck!!!!`
`13:54.46`	`DammitJim`	`but you are the man at the same time ;)`
`13:55.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`hehe`
`13:55.17`	`PrinceAMD`	`next time u ask for something i will tell u "U SUCK!!!"`
`13:55.34`	`DammitJim`	`LMAO... that's how we play the game ;)`
`13:55.47`	`PrinceAMD`	`YEAH!`
`13:55.55`	`PrinceAMD`	`u asked for it!`
`13:56.05`	`DammitJim`	`did you also do the 1.6 hack install?`
`13:56.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`yes :D`
`13:57.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`Wizard, do u have dual monitor`
`13:57.25`	`DammitJim`	`I do I do`
`13:57.26`	`DammitJim`	`:)`
`13:57.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`seriously?`
`13:58.07`	`DammitJim`	`yes`
`13:58.13`	`DammitJim`	`I have a D630 Laptop`
`13:58.17`	`DammitJim`	`and a ViewSonic LCD`
`13:58.18`	`DammitJim`	`why?`
`13:58.22`	`DammitJim`	`what do you need?`
`13:58.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`nice :)`
`13:58.28`	`DammitJim`	`my laptop does have an nvidia card`
`13:58.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`so do u use both at the same time?`
`13:58.34`	`DammitJim`	`I just started using this setup last week`
`13:58.38`	`DammitJim`	`finally got it to work today`
`13:58.51`	`DammitJim`	`yes... I have the LCD "extended"`
`13:59.04`	`PrinceAMD`	`nice`
`13:59.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`so u have separate wallpapers`
`13:59.38`	`DammitJim`	`do you have an external monitor?`
`13:59.43`	`DammitJim`	`I don't right now`
`13:59.45`	`DammitJim`	`but I did on Friday`
`13:59.50`	`keyra`	`PrinceAMD: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background`
`13:59.52`	`DammitJim`	`you can have separate screens`
`14:00.03`	`PrinceAMD`	`i have 2 17" CRT`
`14:00.05`	`Wizard`	`PrinceAMD: i have 4 monitors`
`14:00.10`	`DammitJim`	`shut up`
`14:00.11`	`PrinceAMD`	`OMG!`
`14:00.20`	`DammitJim`	`actually`
`14:00.28`	`DammitJim`	`you SUCK, Wizard!`
`14:00.45`	`DammitJim`	`what bug is that you sent, Prince?`
`14:00.48`	`Wizard`	`DammitJim: do you have something against me?`
`14:00.51`	`PrinceAMD`	`well i made a script this morning to change the wallpaper at random on both display, with separate images`
`14:00.58`	`DammitJim`	`no, Wizard`
`14:01.08`	`DammitJim`	`not at all... you are the man with 4 monitors!!!`
`14:01.17`	`DammitJim`	`oh cool`
`14:01.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`and i finally converted all mp3 to ogg`
`14:01.35`	`DammitJim`	`don't be insulted, Wizard... I'm an idiot`
`14:01.39`	`PrinceAMD`	`took like 24hrs`
`14:01.40`	`DammitJim`	`hee hee`
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`14:01.55`	`DammitJim`	`wow... well, what can I say, Prince... you totally SUCK!`
`14:02.24`	`DammitJim`	`lol`
`14:02.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`Wizard, i have found a cool way to compress .ISO compress it in squashfs and when ur ready to burn mount it :)`
`14:02.34`	`DammitJim`	`but I'm glad you are here`
`14:04.02`	`PrinceAMD`	`Wizard, is it possible to have a compress linux system`
`14:04.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`i mean like same compression as squashfs`
`14:04.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`with read write and save on it`
`14:05.07`	`Wizard`	`hmm.. i thought squashfs supports rw`
`14:05.23`	`Wizard`	`on writable media of course ;D`
`14:05.24`	`PrinceAMD`	`WAAAAA`
`14:05.41`	`PrinceAMD`	`u have to be kidding me`
`14:06.20`	`DammitJim`	`why do you want that, PrinceAMD?`
`14:06.51`	`PrinceAMD`	`DammitJim, suck good compression i dont want to go to waste`
`14:07.16`	`PrinceAMD`	`compressed mode elive is 600mb decompressed mode it's 1.60gb or 2.1gb`
`14:07.17`	`DammitJim`	`limited HDD space?`
`14:07.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`oh yeah`
`14:07.29`	`DammitJim`	`oh, is it really?`
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`14:07.43`	`Wizard`	`no, it's ro`
`14:08.20`	`PrinceAMD`	`son of a cow`
`14:08.53`	`Wizard`	`i would use somethihng like umsdos.. but it's not compressed`
`14:09.15`	`DammitJim`	`hhhmmm`
`14:09.17`	`slade991`	`hum just a question`
`14:09.24`	`slade991`	`how can i know my jdk/jre version ?`
`14:10.16`	`slade991`	`eclipse said me hashmap<string, string>`
`14:10.20`	`slade991`	`can't take string argument`
`14:10.30`	`slade991`	`think its because of jdk version`
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`14:14.15`	`DammitJim`	`eclipse?`
`14:14.21`	`DammitJim`	`is that for software development?`
`14:14.31`	`Wizard`	`slade991: java -version`
`14:14.38`	`Wizard`	`DammitJim: eclipse is for life ;D`
`14:14.55`	`slade991`	`Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-b09)`
`14:14.55`	`slade991`	`Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_02-b09, mixed mode, sharing)`
`14:15.01`	`slade991`	`hummm its 1.6 now no ?`
`14:15.07`	`Wizard`	`1.5`
`14:15.14`	`DammitJim`	`that's right... 1.5`
`14:15.17`	`slade991`	`not 1.6 ?`
`14:15.21`	`slade991`	`ha ok`
`14:15.27`	`slade991`	`think i'm up to date then`
`14:15.44`	`slade991`	`in fact i just paste the workspace of windows to the elive one`
`14:15.55`	`slade991`	`perhaps this is the problem :/`
`14:16.57`	`DammitJim`	`hhhmmmmm....`
`14:17.06`	`DammitJim`	`maybe you need to export your code only`
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`14:17.09`	`DammitJim`	`and not the whole workspace`
`14:17.20`	`keyra`	`DammitJim: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes`
`14:17.33`	`DammitJim`	`hello keyra! hugs`
`14:17.47`	`keyra`	`DammitJim: hi`
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`14:26.01`	`Elive_user46`	`hello`
`14:26.12`	`DammitJim`	`hi user 46`
`14:26.29`	`Elive_user46`	`hi jim`
`14:26.50`	`Elive_user46`	`im having problem installing elive :(`
`14:26.57`	`Elive_user46`	`on my other pc`
`14:27.27`	`Elive_user46`	`it drops me: cant access tty:...`
`14:27.33`	`Elive_user46`	`any idea?`
`14:32.50`	`DammitJim`	`at what point?`
`14:34.01`	`Elive_user46`	`at the beggining when I choose the languange and begin to load the kernel...`
`14:34.44`	`DammitJim`	`hhmmmmm`
`14:34.49`	`DammitJim`	`are you sure your iso is right?`
`14:35.01`	`DammitJim`	`where did you get it from?`
`14:35.11`	`Elive_user46`	`yes, beacuse im using the same cd on this pc`
`14:35.26`	`Elive_user46`	`and it works...`
`14:35.27`	`DammitJim`	`I had that problem when I got it from some weird site... and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't`
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`14:36.52`	`Elive_user46`	`so, what can i do?`
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`14:41.01`	`DammitJim`	`again... where did you get the iso?`
`14:42.07`	`Elive_user46`	`from a Friend, i think he downloaded it but i dont know where`
`14:43.32`	`DammitJim`	`oh`
`14:43.41`	`DammitJim`	`I suggest you get it from elivecd.org`
`14:43.52`	`DammitJim`	`like I said... I don't know if it's only me`
`14:44.04`	`DammitJim`	`but that's what happened when I used a different iso.. from another source`
`14:44.09`	`DammitJim`	`are you using Gem?`
`14:44.18`	`DammitJim`	`try downloading the unstable version 1.2.3`
`14:44.25`	`Elive_user46`	`yes gem 1_0`
`14:44.28`	`DammitJim`	`and see if you get the same problem...`
`14:44.48`	`DammitJim`	`that's what I'm running and really haven't had that many problems with the exception of my 3945 wifi driver`
`14:45.02`	`keyra`	`DammitJim: don't ask to ask, ask your problem`
`14:45.17`	`DammitJim`	`blah`
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`15:20.14`	`Elive_user86`	`-hi`
`15:20.45`	`Elive_user86`	`could someone please tell me the shortcut to paste in console? thanks`
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`15:35.39`	`Elive_user86`	`hello`
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`16:19.23`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hi folks!`
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`16:29.04`	`Elive_user`	`hello i need help with harware acceleration`
`16:29.20`	`Elive_user`	`installed drivers but fglrxinfo still shows mesa`
`16:29.34`	`keyra`	`Elive_user: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff`
`16:29.37`	`Elive_user`	`so the problem is comfiguring x to use it`
`16:29.43`	`Elive_user`	`thnx`
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`17:04.58`	`DammitJim`	`sup?`
`17:05.33`	`DammitJim`	`when was the last time keyra was rebooted?`
`17:07.35`	`Wizard`	`keyra: SYN`
`17:09.35`	`Wizard`	`keyra: reboot`
`17:09.53`	`Elive_user`	`man i need help`
`17:10.02`	`Elive_user`	`cant get x to use hardware acc`
`17:10.21`	`Elive_user`	`or i need someone to tell if wat i'm doing is right`
`17:10.23`	`Wizard`	`cool, what gfx card?`
`17:10.32`	`Elive_user`	`radeon mobility x1400`
`17:10.40`	`Wizard`	`hmm`
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`17:11.11`	`Elive_user`	`there is method on debian wiki to build .deb and install using them`
`17:11.16`	`Wizard`	`i'm not sure if "radeon" driver supports acceleration`
`17:11.25`	`keyra`	`Elive_user: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems`
`17:11.28`	`Elive_user`	`and there is also the driver simply available on the ATI site`
`17:11.34`	`Elive_user`	`they do`
`17:11.48`	`Elive_user`	`i used compiz fusion some time bak on pslOS`
`17:11.58`	`Wizard`	`ah, you are installing fglrx?`
`17:12.02`	`keyra`	`Elive_user: xgl needs compiz WM, E is not compiz WM, the WM of E is E`
`17:12.11`	`Wizard`	`keyra: stfu`
`17:12.19`	`Elive_user`	`fglrx i shud ?`
`17:12.27`	`Elive_user`	`ok correct me if i;m wrong`
`17:12.39`	`Wizard`	`i'm not sure, i've never tried it`
`17:12.41`	`Elive_user`	`step 1> install the diver using the .run from ATI site`
`17:12.52`	`Elive_user`	`then tell xorg.conf to use the drivers.`
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`17:12.58`	`Elive_user`	`reboot and voila!`
`17:13.07`	`Elive_user`	`is wat i said correct?`
`17:13.46`	`Wizard`	`it should work`
`17:14.55`	`Wizard`	`but as i told you i don't have any experience with ati drivers`
`17:15.02`	`Elive_user`	`well the problem is when i do aticonfig --initial and reboot, i just can login , entrance login doalogue keeps reappearing`
`17:15.06`	`Elive_user`	`:(`
`17:15.12`	`Elive_user`	`*cant`
`17:15.16`	`keyra`	`Elive_user: If you have boot problems better to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf`
`17:15.40`	`Elive_user`	`so everytime i adduser and now i have around 10 users on my little laptop :)`
`17:15.54`	`Wizard`	`ekhm.. what for?`
`17:16.43`	`Elive_user`	`because i am unable to start xserver once i do "aticonfig --initial" :)`
`17:16.58`	`Elive_user`	`i know its lame, but i am computer science chap`
`17:17.06`	`Elive_user`	`NOT computer science chap`
`17:17.37`	`Wizard`	`Elive_user: check logs`
`17:17.48`	`Elive_user`	`ok let me put another problem forth`
`17:17.54`	`Elive_user`	`regarding CD's`
`17:17.57`	`Elive_user`	`i cant rip :(`
`17:18.13`	`Wizard`	`which software do you use?`
`17:18.24`	`Elive_user`	`grip`
`17:18.27`	`Elive_user`	`and sound-juicer`
`17:18.55`	`Wizard`	`and they don't work?`
`17:19.21`	`Elive_user`	`grip says "failed to initialize"`
`17:19.36`	`Wizard`	`to initialize what?`
`17:19.41`	`Elive_user`	`/dev/scd0`
`17:19.48`	`Wizard`	`scd?!`
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`17:20.12`	`Wizard`	`do you have scsi cdrom?`
`17:21.01`	`Wizard`	`hmm`
`17:21.31`	`Wizard`	`i have an idea, give: ls -l /dev/scd0`
`17:23.11`	`Wizard`	`Elive_user: ping`
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`17:25.01`	`Elive_user8`	`eek`
`17:26.19`	`Wizard`	`lol`
`17:26.51`	`Wizard`	`ja pierdolÄ, nudno siÄ zrobiÅo :)`
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`17:47.25`	`Elive_user`	`hello, i am unable to hear sound with flash websites`
`17:47.31`	`Elive_user`	`amarok etc. play fine`
`17:47.45`	`Elive_user`	`any ideas?`
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`17:47.53`	`Elive_user`	`wizard`
`17:47.55`	`Elive_user`	`help`
`17:48.04`	`Elive_user`	`help help help help`
`17:48.18`	`Elive_user`	`i wanna watch southpark :((`
`17:49.05`	`Elive_user`	`unable to hear sound with flash videos..`
`17:49.19`	`Elive_user`	`-->> no sound with flash <<--`
`17:50.41`	`Elive_user`	`is my question too hard to answer or too easy to bother ?`
`17:51.04`	`Elive_user`	`i hope it presents someone with some kind of challenge`
`17:52.09`	`Elive_user`	`hey, where are ye guys from?`
`17:52.31`	`Wizard`	`Elive_user: is esd running?`
`17:52.51`	`Elive_user`	`yup`
`17:54.11`	`Elive_user`	`amarok and other players are sounding alright`
`17:54.23`	`Elive_user`	`no sound with youtube videos and such`
`17:54.57`	`Wizard`	`try to disable esd`
`17:55.28`	`Elive_user`	`command?`
`17:55.52`	`Elive_user`	`sry i m very migrant from windwos`
`17:56.01`	`Elive_user`	`*new migrant`
`17:56.56`	`Wizard`	`lol`
`17:57.06`	`Wizard`	`/etc/init.d/esd stop`
`17:57.11`	`Wizard`	`something like that`
`17:57.12`	`Wizard`	`as root`
`17:57.26`	`Elive_user`	`awrite`
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`18:00.35`	`Elive_user`	`no good man, stopping esd led to no sound on amarok etc but no affect on youtube`
`18:01.10`	`Wizard`	`turn off all sound apps, restart firefox from terminal`
`18:01.14`	`Elive_user`	`no quake, no youtube, man i'm bored :(`
`18:01.26`	`Elive_user`	`yes sir`
`18:05.18`	`Elive_user`	`shall i provide u the console output ?`
`18:05.27`	`Elive_user`	`"no such device"`
`18:06.05`	`Elive_user`	`(_snd_config_evaluate)function snd_card_driver returned error: no such device`
`18:09.26`	`Elive_user`	`hehe the screenshot command is called scrot :)`
`18:09.37`	`Elive_user`	`hihi`
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`18:09.56`	`Elive_user`	`hail the prince of darkness`
`18:10.04`	`Elive_user`	`can u help a poor novice?`
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`18:11.16`	`Elive_user`	`aye aye`
`18:11.35`	`Wizard`	`hmm`
`18:11.40`	`Wizard`	`lsmod \| grep oss`
`18:12.50`	`Elive_user`	`snd_pcm 72836 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss`
`18:13.01`	`Elive_user`	`snd 49636 6 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,`
`18:13.05`	`keyra`	`Elive_user: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes`
`18:14.35`	`Elive_user`	`keyra, wat abt the codes?`
`18:14.44`	`Elive_user`	`i got elive thru a torrent..`
`18:14.58`	`keyra`	`Elive_user: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website`
`18:15.15`	`Elive_user`	`ouch,`
`18:16.28`	`wasynyt`	`good evening people`
`18:16.34`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hi wasynyt !`
`18:16.39`	`wasynyt`	`keyra, bot`
`18:16.41`	`Elive_user`	`uhh, if i recommend elive to my friends do i get a code>`
`18:16.42`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
`18:16.48`	`Elive_user`	`good evening pal`
`18:16.53`	`keyra`	`wasynyt: bot`
`18:16.55`	`Wizard`	`wasynyt: hi!`
`18:16.55`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing people`
`18:17.02`	`Wizard`	`fine, thanks`
`18:17.07`	`Wizard`	`working, like allways`
`18:17.09`	`wasynyt`	`Elive_user, that depends who your friend is`
`18:17.11`	`Elive_user`	`not too well without hardware acceleration`
`18:17.19`	`wasynyt`	`Wizard, will you ever rest`
`18:17.28`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`we are all bots. we do feel fine every day. we are programmed to do so.`
`18:17.39`	`Wizard`	`wasynyt: i would want to :)`
`18:17.47`	`Elive_user`	`ow, all my friends are hopeless buggers, no one famous :(`
`18:17.56`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:19.16`	`wasynyt`	`well you should still ask from our dev.. but he will not be back in days from his trip, and i recomed you to donate few â¬/$ to him.. perhaps you could establish a local user group ?`
`18:19.18`	`Elive_user`	`so the only way i can get a code is if a friend gives it to me :`
`18:19.29`	`wasynyt`	`or you donate`
`18:19.38`	`wasynyt`	`or you do something great for the elive`
`18:19.55`	`Wizard`	`like Wizard for example`
`18:20.03`	`Elive_user`	`elive is already far ahead man, i am not even a linux pro`
`18:20.09`	`Elive_user`	`wizard yay!`
`18:20.25`	`watchwolf`	`Elive_user, write a patch to remove all sounds in elive :p`
`18:20.35`	`Wizard`	`idÄ zapaliÄ :)`
`18:20.40`	`wasynyt`	`wonders what makes someone a linux pro`
`18:21.03`	`Elive_user`	`all i want is a system that plays quake3, supports my ipod and doesnt get fked by a running an mp3`
`18:21.19`	`Elive_user`	`last time i was using windows, i got powned by an mp3 man!`
`18:22.12`	`Elive_user`	`cp elivesounds.ogg elivesounds.egg :)`
`18:22.47`	`wasynyt`	`hmm are you sure it was real mp3 ?`
`18:23.07`	`Elive_user`	`well i just played it on winamp and it never gave me a chance to find out`
`18:23.58`	`Elive_user`	`i;ll tell ya wat makes a linux pro,,,,one who can get ATi Radeon mobility x1400 to give me > 30 fps on quake3`
`18:24.58`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`18:25.15`	`wasynyt`	`"radeon" driver does not work`
`18:25.16`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`18:25.37`	`Elive_user`	`i think it does, i could improve resolution etc after installing it`
`18:25.48`	`Elive_user`	`but cant get 3D accele`
`18:25.58`	`wasynyt`	`:/`
`18:26.07`	`Elive_user`	`a matter of xorg.conf`
`18:28.07`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`18:28.12`	`Wizard`	`i think you are linux pro when other people consider you a linux pro`
`18:28.13`	`Wizard`	`:)`
`18:28.24`	`wasynyt`	`you realyl should not use radeon driver with x1400`
`18:28.30`	`wasynyt`	`*really`
`18:28.46`	`wasynyt`	`it is not well supported (or not at all)`
`18:29.01`	`wasynyt`	`so you have to try fglrx`
`18:29.28`	`Elive_user`	`can u tell me where i can find proper procedure for fglrx?`
`18:29.47`	`Elive_user`	`i folowed the debian wiki method and ended up staring at blank`
`18:30.45`	`wasynyt`	`do you have elive`
`18:30.51`	`Elive_user`	`o ya MOST important question: WAT on earth is fglrx and mesa and proprietary and bla and blu?`
`18:31.00`	`Elive_user`	`most certainly i do have elive :)`
`18:31.15`	`wasynyt`	`fglrx = amd/ati offical colosed driver`
`18:31.21`	`wasynyt`	`works, or does not`
`18:31.26`	`Elive_user`	`works`
`18:31.38`	`wasynyt`	`well that depends`
`18:31.48`	`wasynyt`	`it is a little cranky`
`18:32.14`	`wasynyt`	`i think you should be able to install fglrx driver with synaptic`
`18:32.22`	`Elive_user`	`http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html`
`18:32.26`	`Elive_user`	`i got it frm here`
`18:32.33`	`wasynyt`	`and use dpkg-reconfigure xserv-xorg to config`
`18:33.10`	`wasynyt`	`it is not recomended to use drivers from other places when using elive, if you are not sure what you are doing`
`18:34.12`	`Elive_user`	`ouch because i already got the above driver and installed it, and looking at the improved resolution i thought it works fine`
`18:34.32`	`wasynyt`	`well it could work`
`18:34.38`	`Elive_user`	`so ideally, i shud build my own?`
`18:35.17`	`wasynyt`	`ideally you should be able to select driver from elive and it should just "work" (tm)`
`18:36.48`	`Elive_user`	`lets see then...if i dont return in 5 minutes, u shud know that i am staring at a blank screen =)`
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`19:23.40`	`Urtiel`	`hello, anyone have installed compiz on E?`
`19:23.54`	`keyra`	`Urtiel: xgl needs compiz WM, E is not compiz WM, the WM of E is E`
`19:23.55`	`Urtiel`	`i've read the web, and i get this error`
`19:24.18`	`Urtiel`	`./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local/ecomorph << this is what i execute`
`19:24.19`	`Urtiel`	`and i get`
`19:24.37`	`Urtiel`	`./autogen.sh line 8: aclocal: command not found`
`19:24.42`	`Wizard`	`lol`
`19:24.50`	`Urtiel`	`any hint xD?`
`19:24.52`	`Wizard`	`1. install compiz using apt`
`19:25.00`	`Urtiel`	`k`
`19:25.08`	`Wizard`	`2. if you want to build from source, install aclocal first`
`19:25.41`	`Urtiel`	`i'm installing it using apt`
`19:25.57`	`Urtiel`	`done,`
`19:26.05`	`Urtiel`	`do i have to install aclocal now?`
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`19:44.13`	`Theoden`	`is now listening to: 05Max Bruch - 02Sinfonie Nr. 1 in Es-Dur, Op. 28 - III Quasi fantasia - Grave 03- Gewandhausorchester Leipzig - Kurt Masur`
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`20:01.58`	`watchwolf`	`Wizard, he tried to isntall ecomorph, not compiz :o`
`20:02.08`	`watchwolf`	`he just need automake`
`20:02.13`	`keyra`	`watchwolf: xgl needs compiz WM, E is not compiz WM, the WM of E is E`
`20:02.37`	`Wizard`	`he said compiz`
`20:02.44`	`watchwolf`	`kevin__, ecomorph is a "compiz extension" for E`
`20:03.06`	`watchwolf`	`Wizard, yes he said compiz, but he tried to install ecomorph`
`20:03.16`	`watchwolf`	`"./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local/ecomorph << this is what i execute" :)`
`20:04.25`	`Wizard`	`i don't know what ecomorph is`
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`20:32.14`	`Dammitjim`	`dammit`
`20:32.22`	`Dammitjim`	`why doesn't the wireless stuff for 3945 work on 1.2.3?`
`20:32.24`	`Dammitjim`	`how can I fix that?`
`20:36.27`	`Dammitjim`	`anybody?`
`20:36.33`	`Dammitjim`	`please... I need help with the wireless module`
`20:38.33`	`Dammitjim`	`I have an Intel Wireless 3945 module`
`20:38.41`	`Dammitjim`	`and it doesn't work on Elive Unstable 1.2.3`
`20:41.06`	`Dammitjim`	`can I just do an apt-get install ipw3945-modules-2.6.22.16-ck-elive-686`
`20:43.21`	`Dammitjim`	`or would that be bad?`
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`20:47.24`	`Wizard`	`Dammitjim: try :)`
`20:47.26`	`Dammitjim`	`hi gran`
`20:47.31`	`Dammitjim`	`yes, wizard?`
`20:47.55`	`Gran_Ger`	`Hi Dammitjim.`
`20:48.23`	`Dammitjim`	`how goes it, gran_ger`
`20:49.12`	`Dammitjim`	`wizard? try what?`
`20:49.21`	`Wizard`	`install that module`
`20:49.30`	`Dammitjim`	`even though when I do an`
`20:49.31`	`Dammitjim`	`uname -r`
`20:49.38`	`Dammitjim`	`it says I'm runing`
`20:49.47`	`Dammitjim`	`2.6.23.9-elive-1`
`20:49.51`	`Gran_Ger`	`I want to install Azureus but something is wrong, because it appears some error.`
`20:50.13`	`Dammitjim`	`so, it's 2.6.22.16 vs 2.6.23.9`
`20:50.19`	`Dammitjim`	`yikes!`
`20:50.23`	`Gran_Ger`	`about the dependencys are broke`
`20:50.35`	`Dammitjim`	`what are you using to install, Ger?`
`20:50.52`	`Dammitjim`	`is that the bit torrent client, Ger?`
`20:51.06`	`Gran_Ger`	`apt-get and the Synaptic tool`
`20:51.07`	`keyra`	`Dammitjim: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website`
`20:51.19`	`Dammitjim`	`LMAO... Keyra craacks me up`
`20:51.30`	`Dammitjim`	`hhmmmm`
`20:51.36`	`Dammitjim`	`what are you running? Elive Gem?`
`20:51.40`	`Gran_Ger`	`and yes DammitJim, is this Client.`
`20:51.45`	`Gran_Ger`	`Yep.`
`20:51.54`	`Dammitjim`	`hhhmmmmm`
`20:52.02`	`Gran_Ger`	`Perhaps the repositories I need r wrong.`
`20:52.03`	`Dammitjim`	`so, tell us what the actual error message is`
`20:52.20`	`Dammitjim`	`gosh, I hope I don't break my machine`
`20:54.19`	`Dammitjim`	`20 secs`
`20:55.18`	`Dammitjim`	`uh oh`
`20:55.21`	`Dammitjim`	`symbolic link problems`
`20:55.23`	`Dammitjim`	`crap!`
`20:56.02`	`Gran_Ger`	`Ok. The error is: Next Packages has non-accomplishment dependancies`
`20:56.10`	`Dammitjim`	`hhmmm`
`20:56.33`	`Gran_Ger`	`azureus Depends: libswt-gtk-3.2-java but there is not going to install`
`20:56.45`	`Gran_Ger`	`E: Brocken packages`
`20:57.01`	`Dammitjim`	`do you have gtk?`
`20:57.19`	`Gran_Ger`	`I don't think so.`
`20:57.26`	`Theoden`	`is now listening to: 05Max Bruch - 02Sinfonie Nr. 2 in f-moll, Op. 36 - I Allegro appassionato ma un poco maestoso 03- Gewandhausorchester Leipzig - Kurt Masur`
`20:57.54`	`Dammitjim`	`brb`
`20:57.58`	`Dammitjim`	`let's see if this thing boots`
`20:57.59`	`Dammitjim`	`yikes!`
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`21:01.52`	`DammitJim`	`wizard`
`21:01.54`	`DammitJim`	`so, I installed it`
`21:01.58`	`DammitJim`	`now how do I enable it?`
`21:01.58`	`DammitJim`	`lol`
`21:08.27`	`Gran_Ger`	`so, somebody can help me?`
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`22:00.37`	`wasynyt`	`good night people`
`22:02.43`	`bentejuy`	`gnight wasynyt`
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`23:33.56`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Hi Ho Folks!`
`23:37.49`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`somebody awake?`
`23:39.16`	`SuperpeZ`	`hi AlexAnteMachina`
`23:39.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hi`
`23:39.32`	`SuperpeZ`	`how are you?`
`23:40.52`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i'm fine. .. well, kind of.... @ work.`
`23:40.53`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`its a pain in the ass.`
`23:41.44`	`SuperpeZ`	`usually work isn't good`
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`23:49.50`	`\|ast\|`	`Buenas!`

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