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00:10.13c_cinqhello
00:11.00c_cinqwhich version of cdrtools is on developers livecd?
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00:51.09Elive_user86hello
00:52.05reaper21I got a Macbook pro , downloading the Elive and will install it on it soon
00:52.20keyrareaper21: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
01:02.02reaper21nope straight up elive gem
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03:48.59AlexAnteMachinasomeone awake?
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03:49.03LinuxIITnobody is awake
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08:04.22Mtrakerhi
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10:34.32Thanatermesishola Mtraker
10:34.46keyraThanatermesis: que tal ?
10:34.56Thanatermesisbien keyra, guapa
10:35.01Thanatermesiscaim, estas por aqui ?
10:35.11keyraThanatermesis: gracias guapissimo :)
10:40.26Mtrakerahora
10:40.28Mtrakernas Thana
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10:47.33Thanatermesisque tal todo Mtraker ?
10:47.58Thanatermesisoye Mtraker, que tal es tu inglés ?
10:48.20Mtrakerpues para pedir cervezas me funciona
10:48.23Mtraker:-)
10:49.03Mtrakerpor?
10:49.27Thanatermesisjeje
10:49.39ThanatermesisMtraker, es que resulta que no tengo ningun traductor al castellano ahora mismo para Elive :/
10:50.00Thanatermesisy es una pena porque ahora hay un sistema muy facil y automatizado de hacer traducciones, todo grafico, hasta el envio de la traduccion al servidor de Elive ;)
10:50.32Thanatermesisme haría falta un traductor al castellano, especialmente para ver y saber que todas las traducciones funcionan y que no queda nada por traducir
10:50.34Mtrakerque tendria que hacer?
10:51.27Thanatermesisbueno, si entiendes correctamente el ingles, lo unico que hay que hacer es traducir los pocos (porque realmente son pocos xD), mensajes de Elive
10:51.33Thanatermesisque version de Elive tienes ahora mismo ?
10:51.43Mtrakertrasteando la 1.6
10:51.51Thanatermesisaha
10:51.52Mtrakerpero puedo ponerla en un sobremesa
10:52.15Mtrakero bien en un virtualbox en el portatil
10:52.21Mtrakerporque me peta la grafica
10:52.40Thanatermesispues desde la 1.6 misma, lanza "eltrans" (mejor actualizalo antes, hay un mini-bug que no actualiza las traducciones en la version de 1.6), y listos, es todo grafico y tirado :P
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10:52.47Mtrakerpor cierto tengo que pasarte un script para ajustar brillo y clor del monitor
10:52.50Thanatermesisaun no hemos solucionado lo de la grafica
10:53.01keyraThanatermesis: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
10:53.02Mtrakerno me he puesto para ser sincero
10:53.14ThanatermesisMtraker, mejor prueba primero si eso no funciona directamente en la version 1.7 que he trabajado un poco en ello ;)
10:53.30Mtrakerpasame el link
10:53.34Thanatermesispues es una pena porque el afectado eres tu que no puedes hacer rular Elive en el portatil xD
10:53.54Thanatermesisaun no está subida, espero poder hacerlo para mañana
10:54.00Mtrakerok
10:54.04ThanatermesisMtraker, estás suscrito al nuevo sistema de infomail ?
10:54.22Mtrakertengo tus ultimas repsuestas del bug
10:54.28Mtrakersupongo que si
10:54.34Mtrakero no tiene nada que ver?
10:54.51Thanatermesises otro sistema... suscribete de nuevo por si acaso: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/infomail/
10:55.07Mtrakersabes como mandar un fax por mail?
10:55.28Thanatermesispues ni idea :/
10:56.01Mtrakeres que tengo que mandar un fax y no tengo nada por aqui
10:56.35Thanatermesispues como no uses una pagina que ofrezca ese tipo de servicio o algo... notengo ni idea
10:56.55Thanatermesissi tuviera uno te lo mandaba desde aqui xD
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10:57.33Thanatermesiskeyra, bla bla infomail
10:57.47keyraThanatermesis: You can be suscribed only to the releases stables, developments or newsletters: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/infomail/
10:58.03Thanatermesisthanks keyra :)
10:58.11Mtrakerpues esta tarde le hecho un vistazo a las traducciones
10:58.17keyraThanatermesis: welcome :)
10:58.38Mtrakerte refieres a los mensajes propios del elive? como bienvenida y cosas por el estilo?
10:59.05Thanatermesisexacto, esos mensajes que salen
10:59.08Thanatermesishay diferentes secciones en eltrans
10:59.14Mtrakerok
10:59.22keyraThanatermesis: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
10:59.29Mtrakerpues esta tarde intento ponerme el portaca aqui
10:59.33Thanatermesishay la seccion de eltrans misma (para traducir el traductor xD), hay para el modo live de Elive (el arranque), etc
10:59.44Thanatermesisy te dice el % completado en tu idioma :)
10:59.54Mtrakerbien
10:59.56Thanatermesisla verdad es que me a salido muy bien ese programita ;)
11:00.25Thanatermesisok, y ya que estás miramos lo de la grafica Mtraker, con un poco de suerte sacaré la 1.7 para que funcione en ella ;)
11:00.47Mtrakercomo te va el tema de los paquetes extra?
11:00.50Mtrakerte responde la gente=?
11:00.55Mtraker?
11:01.30Thanatermesislos paquetes extra ? me he perdido :S
11:01.57Mtrakerbonus disk
11:01.59Mtrakerperdon
11:02.41Thanatermesisah
11:02.44Thanatermesisbueh..
11:03.03Thanatermesishay los que hay en internet y no tienen mucha actividad a decir verdad :/
11:03.58MtrakerTendras que empezar con packaging y vender en empresas fisicas
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11:04.17Thanatermesisjeje
11:04.26Thanatermesisno me hables de trabajo que tengo tanto que me asusta solo imaginar xD
11:04.29Mtrakera la gente le gusta el carton
11:04.37Thanatermesiseso parece xD
11:04.51Mtrakerdonde estas ahora? en Barna o en Belgica?
11:05.01Thanatermesispero creo que me voy a quedar con el sistema de "bajatelo de internet de forma automatizada y no me hagas perder el tiempo chupando sellos" xD
11:05.05Thanatermesisen barcelona :)
11:05.57Mtrakera ver si me puedo pasar un dia por Barcelona y te pego un toque
11:06.24Thanatermesisok :)
11:08.08Mtrakerbueno sigo con el curro que si no el boss me tocara el sueldo
11:11.38Thanatermesisjeje
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11:28.49AlexAnteMachinahi ho
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12:57.25Elive_user54hi all
13:05.19Nalfgarhi Elive_user54
13:05.48DammitJimhi
13:05.55Elive_user54how install skype
13:07.14DammitJimapt-get install skype
13:10.59roxvilleDammitJim, you are quikcly becoming a elive master! :)
13:11.04Elive_user54couldn't find package
13:11.08roxvillequickly, even
13:11.11DammitJimlol
13:11.13DammitJimwait
13:11.16DammitJimapt-get update
13:11.22DammitJimwhat are you running? Elive Gem?
13:11.48Elive_user54yes
13:11.58Elive_user54updating now
13:12.30DammitJimoh
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13:12.39DammitJimfor Gem, I don't know if there is a repository with Skype
13:12.41DammitJimhhhmmmmmm
13:13.00Elive_user54so?
13:13.17roxvilleis away: going to the store...on foot
13:15.15DammitJimrinovan... try this at your own risk
13:15.18DammitJimhttp://www.debianadmin.com/install-skype-instant-messanger-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html
13:15.32keyraDammitJim: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
13:17.46DammitJimanybody in here good with encryption and signatures?
13:17.53DammitJimcertificates and such?
13:21.51LinuxIITrinovan, you just need to download the package from skypes website and install it via gdebi or dpkg
13:22.13LinuxIITdownload the debian one
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13:37.52DammitJimrinovan... did it work?
13:42.03rinovannotyet
13:42.27DammitJimoh
13:42.29DammitJimwhat happened
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13:46.55rinovanupdating
13:47.24DammitJimcool
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13:53.38rinovancan i update my xorg
13:54.07DammitJimI wouldn't
13:55.12rinovanoo
13:55.20LinuxIITwhy not?
13:55.23rinovandanger?
13:55.33DammitJimwell... do you have a problem with xorg right now?
13:55.42Elive_user47_enwhere I can downkload elive stabel version?
13:55.51rinovanslow motion
13:56.06LinuxIITElive_user47_en, from www.elivecd.org
13:56.20DammitJimslow motion? but you think it's an actual problem with xorg?
13:56.35DammitJimAlex updated his xorg yesterday and it was a mess
13:56.42DammitJimpick an choose your battles
13:56.43DammitJimlol
13:56.57Elive_user47_enLinux TET, but that still development version
13:57.04Elive_user47_eni cant install on my pc
13:58.58LinuxIIThttp://www.elivecd.org/Download/Stable
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14:11.30rinovanbrb
14:12.22DammitJimk
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14:41.24reaper21updating Xorg would kill some drivers, applications and kernel modules
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14:41.55DammitJimtake it easy, reaper21
14:41.58rinovanowh
14:42.29reaper21sorry, I made the noob mistake a while back trying to update Xorg, it was like an atom bomb blew up in my face
14:42.40DammitJimme, too reaper
14:42.41rinovandownload skype now
14:42.45DammitJimthat's why I said that to rinovan
14:43.08reaper21I was trying to agree with you and so he doesn't try it
14:43.15DammitJimty, reaper
14:44.34reaper21I haven't gotten a chance to look at the most recent development version, plan to once my thesis is done. Does it contain Xorg7.3
14:45.02DammitJimhow do I check my version?
14:46.34reaper21X -version
14:46.38reaper21<PROTECTED>
14:46.59DammitJimX Window System Version 1.3.0
14:46.59DammitJimRelease Date: 19 April 2007
14:46.59DammitJimX Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
14:46.59DammitJimBuild Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12lenny2)
14:46.59DammitJimCurrent Operating System: Linux Elive 2.6.24.4-elive-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 2 03:21:47 CEST 2008 i686
14:47.00DammitJimBuild Date: 19 January 2008
14:47.04DammitJimBefore reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
14:47.06DammitJimto make sure that you have the latest version.
14:47.08DammitJimModule Loader present
14:47.13keyraDammitJim: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
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14:49.05wasynytgood afternoon people
14:52.08DammitJimhey waynyt
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14:55.23wasynytapt waynyt
14:55.36wasynythow are you doing DammitJim
14:55.39wasynytapt wasynyt
14:55.39aptyou are, like, like, a weird slapping, or liking cervesa and vodka
14:55.41DammitJimdoing ok, dude
14:55.47wasynyt:D
14:55.48DammitJimcerveza
14:57.14wasynythttp://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&resnum=0&q=cerveza&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1
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16:53.32Wizardgood afternoon
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17:01.32wasynytgood afternoon Wizard
17:01.48Wizardhi wasynyt
17:02.26wasynythow are you doing Wizard
17:03.05Wizardquite well
17:03.21Wizardbut i'm tired
17:03.59Wizardyesterday i spent 12 hours at work
17:05.10Wizardand what about you?
17:06.17wasynyti am doing quite well
17:06.37wasynytwhy did you do 12 hour working day
17:08.30Wizardhmm.. we had a critical situation :)
17:08.42wasynyt:/
17:08.43wasynytok
17:08.59Wizardso everybody who could work - was on duty ;)
17:09.35wasynyt:D
17:10.22Wizardand than i took bike and made a "small" ride across my city
17:10.59wasynytsounds nice
17:14.43Wizardyeah, but i returned about 4am
17:14.44Wizard:)
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17:16.18AlexAnteMachinahi ho!
17:16.53Wizardho hi
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17:37.52watchwolfThanatermesis, you use a new boot process on the usntable version, right ?
17:38.16assasukasseyes
17:38.18Thanatermesiswatchwolf, yes... all the boot was redesigned, but what you mean exactly ?
17:38.59watchwolfThanatermesis, it's OpenRC ?
17:39.01Thanatermesisinvite everybody to do translations for the boot process using eltrans for this very comming soon, 1.7
17:39.15Thanatermesiswhat is openrc ?
17:39.16keyraThanatermesis: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
17:39.17Thanatermesisapt, openrc
17:39.59watchwolfThanatermesis,  http://www.gentoo.org/news/20080414-openrc-announcement.xml
17:40.01Thanatermesiswasynyt, no... i have writed it myself, with features of other kind of boots (debian-live, dss, sidux, casper, and specially... "elive touch" :))
17:40.36watchwolfThanatermesis,  oki :)
17:40.56watchwolfI think this is only a gentoo apps
17:40.59Thanatermesiswell, about this, i have writed a own way of boot too, you can enjoy it if you add the parameter "fast" on the boot options of the installed system
17:41.05Thanatermesisactually is experimental but not looks bad :)
17:41.27watchwolfThanatermesis,  we can install the unstable now ?
17:41.57Thanatermesisunnafortunately, a *generic* (not dedicated-only-for-specific-hardware) system, can't boot more fast than how i have done it on this "fast" mode boot
17:42.17Thanatermesiswatchwolf, there's a experimental installer, so yes, but is not publically available
17:42.38watchwolfThanatermesis, my Gentoo is brokend, so maybe I ll try elive :p
17:42.41Thanatermesisso, just run "eliveinstaller.experimental" from a root terminal
17:42.54Thanatermesisand update the pakage "eliveinstaller-3g" first if there's a candidate
17:43.10Thanatermesiswatchwolf, then wait 1.7 will be released, maybe tomorrow ;)
17:43.19Thanatermesis1.7 is a very good version, very featured
17:43.25watchwolfoki, I try to save my gentoo atm :)
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17:43.40Thanatermesiswatchwolf, see keyra's infomail link to be noticed about it
17:43.42watchwolfI lost some commands as "ls" :p
17:43.55keyraThanatermesis: You can be suscribed only to the releases stables, developments or newsletters: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/infomail/
17:44.21watchwolfThanatermesis, about exalt, I write a ewl front end as etk is a little dead
17:44.41Thanatermesiswatchwolf, how that etk is dead ?
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17:44.46ThanatermesisPrinceAMD, can you confirm this ?
17:45.03Thanatermesiswatchwolf, do you have tried before (coded anything) with ewl ?
17:45.18keyraThanatermesis: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes
17:45.29Thanatermesisi personally don't like much ewl... but i don't have tried it so my opinion is just 'IMHO' :)
17:45.44watchwolfThanatermesis, no but the new front end will be done this week end
17:45.57watchwolfewl is more powerful than etk
17:46.17PrinceAMDwhy is it more powerful?
17:46.39PrinceAMDppl say ewl is crap...
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17:46.47watchwolfPrinceAMD,  sry I go lunch :)
17:46.59PrinceAMD:P
17:47.34Wizardhmm, funny :)
17:48.02Wizardi love such statements and i often use them
17:48.14Wizardwikipedia has nice feature for them:
17:48.25Wizard"ppl say ewl is crap... [citation needed]"
17:48.29Wizard;D
17:49.02Thanatermesisgo away for a bit too
17:50.59PrinceAMDWizard, hehe
17:52.21Wizardhi PrinceAMD
17:53.36DammitJimisn't ewl... ewww?
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17:55.45PrinceAMDhey DammitJim
17:56.47DammitJimhi
17:57.03Wizardtime for mega cleaning
17:57.26Wizardi hope aptitude won't break everything this time :)
18:01.24DammitJimcleaning what?
18:01.37Wizardcleaning my system at work
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18:02.49DammitJimyou mean... reinstall?
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18:21.33Wizardno, not reinstalling
18:21.42Wizarddeborphan -a
18:21.43Wizard;)
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18:30.40DammitJimdeborphan -a
18:30.42DammitJimwhat does that do?
18:31.22Wizardman deborphan
18:31.23Wizard;)
18:31.37Wizardsimply checks package dependencies
18:31.46Wizardand has nice ncurses frontend, orphaner
18:32.09Wizardjust to ensure, that your system won't bootup again ;D
18:33.21roxville<Wizard> and has nice ncurses frontend
18:33.31roxvilleDammitJim,  if someone says this... RUN!
18:33.40roxvilleit means that they are GEEKS!
18:33.52Wizardo_O
18:33.59roxvillelol
18:34.04roxvillehi Wizzie!
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18:34.08Wizardfeels alike alien
18:34.11Wizardhi roxville
18:34.16Wizard:)
18:34.37Wizardi'm bored at work
18:34.53Wizardso i'm cleaning my system and trying to install kde4 :)
18:34.58roxvilleDammitJim, honestly... if wizrd tells you something... take his word for true...he is a MASTER
18:35.06Wizardlol
18:35.34roxvillehehe, how's KDE4 coming along?
18:35.43Wizardthank you roxville :) i allways admited your sense of humor
18:35.54roxvillelol
18:35.55WizardPobieranie:95 http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main kstars-data-kde4 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa2 [8654kB]
18:35.59Wizardlike this :D
18:36.21roxvillethe link is bad
18:36.34Wizardaptitude is having fun with downloading it
18:36.55Wizardah, Pobieranie means Downloading ;)
18:37.39roxvilleno, the link stops after http://ppa.launchpad.net
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18:39.23Wizardlol, that is an deb repository
18:39.32Wizardi don't know it it'll work in debian
18:39.42Wizardi've found that on kubuntu.org
18:40.51Wizarduh, i accidentaly scared watchwolf
18:42.40Wizarddone, logout :D
18:46.10roxvillelol
18:54.23Wizardit does not work :)
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18:57.28wasynytnice
18:57.29wasynyt;D
18:57.46Wizardtime to find why
18:57.58wasynyttrue
18:58.50Wizarddamn!
18:59.01Wizardeverything because the dual-head setup!
18:59.55roxvilledamn!
19:00.02Wizard:S
19:00.20wasynytheh
19:00.28roxvillewould like to be given dual-head some time...
19:00.31wasynytwell kde4 is a work in progres
19:00.41wasynyti dont think you would like it
19:00.42Wizardthe time has come to rething this stupid windows alike configuration and set up tru unix xinerama
19:00.56Wizardwho cares
19:01.01roxvillehehe
19:01.04wasynyt:D
19:01.25Wizardwork in progres.. heh.. e17 is even more 'work in progress'
19:01.36wasynythmm
19:02.00roxvillehmm
19:02.02wasynyti think that e17 is better than kde4
19:02.05roxvilleagrees with wasynyt
19:02.06wasynytat least gui wize
19:02.14wasynyt*wise
19:02.27roxvillewize looked pretty slick, though!
19:02.31wasynytkde4 gui is so bad
19:02.35wasynyttrue :P
19:03.14roxvilleif you wanna see a DIFFERENT kde setup... have a look at GRanular
19:03.57roxvillehttp://www.granularlinux.com/
19:04.25Wizardgranular linux
19:04.26Wizardlol
19:04.55wasynythow is that different
19:05.18roxvillethe menus don't look like anything else
19:05.32Wizardlol
19:05.38Wizardok, never mind
19:05.47Wizardkde sucks [citation needed]
19:05.51wasynythttp://en.opensuse.org/Kickoff
19:06.23wasynytthat is the first distro to have it
19:06.24Wizardwasynyt: what did you do? roxville is bleeding!
19:06.40wasynytgrins
19:06.57wasynythe should have seen it coming
19:07.21roxvilleit also has e on it
19:07.31roxvillegoes to put on a band aid
19:07.44wasynyt:D
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19:10.04Wizardhmm
19:10.35roxvillewow, you sound JUST LIKE wasynyt !
19:10.43Wizardi can hear kde4 chimes, but all i see is black background :
19:10.57keyraWizard: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
19:11.04roxvilleyep, that's the new part
19:11.10roxville"the invisible GUI"
19:11.18roxville:)
19:12.31Wizardbut i can see errors on console where i gave startx :0
19:12.32Wizard;)
19:13.09roxvillewell i guess you can't have it ALL the time...
19:13.43wasynytheh
19:14.10roxvilleand it makes sense to let the user know when they do something wrong
19:14.23wasynyt.P
19:14.26wasynyt:P
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19:18.35roxvillegoes to get his daughter from the schoolbus
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20:16.53wasynytgood night people
20:21.13DammitJimnite
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20:30.11PetoKraushey there
20:50.26caimThanatermesis: hola, acabo de llegar, dime.
20:50.41keyracaim: que tal ?
20:51.31PetoKrausTheoden: hello, how are you doing
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21:06.03TheodenPetoKraus:  Doing well. How about you?
21:06.26PetoKrausvery good
21:06.34PetoKrausjust wanted to apologize for being a fanny
21:06.44TheodenYou?  When?
21:06.49PetoKrausand wanted to let you know my... 4 months old address
21:06.55PetoKrauspeter.kraus@member.fsf.org :P
21:07.05TheodenNothing to worry about.
21:07.08Theoden:)
21:07.18PetoKrausyeah, you basically initiated that
21:07.43PetoKrausso... i've joined, read the book, and basically - i agree :)
21:12.11Theodenbiab - I'm at work.  :)
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22:19.17AlexAnteMachinahi all
22:19.18AlexAnteMachina!
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22:42.55|ast|Buenas!
22:43.00|ast|Thanatermesis: o/
22:43.04|ast|:)
22:43.54|ast|Thanatermesis: lo probaste el asus eee?
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