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01:07.51Migizievening everyone. I have a few questions before I try Elive, I was wondering if you could help answer them?
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01:28.08*** topic/#elive is BUGS: use http://bugs.elivecd.org to report things, to talk about Development releases use the MailingList || E17 is updated on the development versions, but stills inusable right now, you be warned! || eltrans is the new translator tool for Elive and E17 (ask keyra), you are WELCOME to translate Elive in a fast and easy way
01:31.34AlexAnteMachinasomeone awake, yet?
01:41.34SuperpeZgood morning AlexAnteMachina
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02:04.15AlexAnteMachinaSuperpeZ: Hi!
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02:04.43AlexAnteMachinaI didnt expect somebody to be awake anymore.
02:06.17SuperpeZ:)
02:09.03AlexAnteMachinadammn, I forgot my password for my account at www.alternate.de
02:11.53AlexAnteMachinaHa!
02:11.56AlexAnteMachinagot it!
02:13.59AlexAnteMachinajust ordered a power supply!
02:14.07SuperpeZwhat ps?
02:14.17AlexAnteMachinaPS?
02:14.39SuperpeZwhat power supply do you ordered?
02:14.50AlexAnteMachinaoh... it's a shortcut!
02:14.53AlexAnteMachinaOCZ StealthXStream 600W
02:15.12PrinceAMDi want one of those :D
02:15.24AlexAnteMachinayou can get one, too.
02:15.42AlexAnteMachinait's a limited special offer.
02:16.00PrinceAMD:P
02:16.01AlexAnteMachinajust 44Euro
02:16.05PrinceAMDbroke
02:16.08PrinceAMDlol
02:16.23AlexAnteMachinahuh??
02:16.25SuperpeZgood price
02:16.26PrinceAMDi think my new board would need a psu like that
02:16.31AlexAnteMachinawhats so funny about it?
02:16.40PrinceAMDme being broke
02:16.49AlexAnteMachinabroke?
02:16.50PrinceAMDnothing!
02:16.58PrinceAMD:P
02:17.06PrinceAMDbroke = i have no money
02:17.17AlexAnteMachinaoh yeah.
02:17.22AlexAnteMachinai just looked it up.
02:17.30AlexAnteMachiname too.
02:17.56PrinceAMDyeah  i ordered BIOSTAR Ta770 and amd 4200 x2, and 2gb memory yesterday, 185US!!!
02:18.11AlexAnteMachinaWHAT?
02:18.29PrinceAMDSuperpeZ, HELP!!
02:18.33AlexAnteMachinawhy is it that expensive?
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02:18.44SuperpeZwhat help do you need?
02:18.50PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, no it's kind of cheap  :)
02:18.59PrinceAMDNathanExplosion, howdy
02:19.07NathanExplosionhey princeamd
02:19.08PrinceAMDSuperpeZ, iwk
02:19.09AlexAnteMachinathat aint cheap.
02:19.12PrinceAMDidk*
02:19.24NathanExplosionsup guys?
02:19.38PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, it's 185US when it gets here i will have to pay 100US more!
02:19.59PrinceAMDabout 50,000 local money :D
02:20.00AlexAnteMachinadude, are you insane?
02:20.09NathanExplosionwhat are you guys talkin bout?
02:20.17AlexAnteMachina50 000 what? cups of coffee?
02:20.27PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, it's a good offer dude, the mainboard is AM2+ so i can pelt in a phenom soon :)
02:20.38PrinceAMD50,000GYD
02:20.50AlexAnteMachinaI got no idea what that means, PrinceAMD
02:20.57NathanExplosionphenom? blah
02:21.06SuperpeZI'm using EG465AX-VE(G)FMA
02:21.28PrinceAMDlooks at SuperpeZ code!
02:21.42keyraPrinceAMD: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes
02:21.44PrinceAMDSuperpeZ, what is the specs on that thing?
02:21.51PrinceAMDkeyra, be quiet!
02:22.12AlexAnteMachinaI just odered RAM from US, too. Its a old DDR 166
02:22.14PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, do u know amd has new phenom CPU?
02:22.24SuperpeZ460wats at 75%
02:22.36PrinceAMDoh..
02:22.47PrinceAMDi got a 80Watts here :)
02:23.18AlexAnteMachinaThey sell it for about 30 Dollar/GB. That's what it costs here in Euro. so due to the weak Dollar it's cheaper ordering it in USA.
02:23.34AlexAnteMachinaphenom CPU?`
02:23.48AlexAnteMachinais it a phenomenon to get it working?
02:23.53NathanExplosionapt seen bryanstein
02:23.54aptbryanstein <n=Bryanste@unaffiliated/geekjuice> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 27d 9h 7m 34s ago, saying: 'lol'.
02:24.02NathanExplosionjeez
02:24.04NathanExplosionand he said lol
02:24.06PrinceAMDholey shit
02:24.28PrinceAMDthe sisters kidnap him again!
02:24.36NathanExplosionhe has siblings?
02:24.49AlexAnteMachinalol
02:25.04PrinceAMDsisters = female girls in a church
02:25.15NathanExplosionwtf? he's catholic?
02:25.16AlexAnteMachinathis is one of the most funny english words: "Siblings"
02:25.21PrinceAMDLOL
02:25.35PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, why is it funny?
02:25.36NathanExplosionis so confused
02:26.07PrinceAMDhides
02:26.09AlexAnteMachinaBecause it sounds pretty much like naive ancient german.
02:26.24PrinceAMD:P
02:26.30NathanExplosionwhere the fuck is bryan?
02:26.51PrinceAMDidk
02:27.01NathanExplosionwhy did he get kidnapped by nuns?
02:27.04PrinceAMDNathanExplosion, do u have is email?
02:27.05AlexAnteMachinamaybe you should ask The Fuck
02:27.11NathanExplosionno i don't
02:27.23NathanExplosionwait yes I DO
02:27.29PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, who is "The Fuck"
02:27.31NathanExplosioni think
02:27.33NathanExplosion?_?
02:27.35AlexAnteMachina???
02:27.39PrinceAMD>>>
02:27.50NathanExplosioni emailed him a while go, i'd have to sift thru all my contacts to figure which one he is
02:27.54AlexAnteMachinawell, PrinceAMD, ask your mother who's  The Fuck.
02:28.02NathanExplosionI'M THE FUCK damnit
02:28.14PrinceAMDWTF
02:28.49PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, why u gatto bring mah moda into this YO
02:29.09NathanExplosioni got to go, tell bryan i said to get his ass back in here if you see him
02:29.32PrinceAMDNathanExplosion, ok do ur thing how is the volvo?
02:29.43NathanExplosioni don't have a volvo?
02:29.57PrinceAMD:P ... wrong person
02:29.59NathanExplosioni've got to go to work
02:30.11NathanExplosionlaterz
02:30.13PrinceAMDfree()
02:30.19PrinceAMDlaters
02:30.25PrinceAMDis out
02:30.30PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, later
02:30.38PrinceAMDSuperpeZ, take it easy
02:32.18AlexAnteMachinanever brought anybody's mother anywhere.
02:32.42AlexAnteMachinais not a MotherCarrier.
02:32.48PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, lol
02:33.02SuperpeZwhat take it PrinceAMD ?
02:33.39PrinceAMDis not going to answer SuperpeZ hehe
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02:33.50SuperpeZ:)
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02:45.04AlexAnteMachinahey PrinceAMD
02:45.09AlexAnteMachinastill there?
02:46.24PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, yep
02:46.30PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, what's up?
02:48.34AlexAnteMachinaI gotta perform a security check....
02:48.45AlexAnteMachinabe back in a few minutes...
03:16.16AlexAnteMachinaback!
03:25.09AlexAnteMachinaI'll swing by again in about 12 hours I guess.
03:25.20AlexAnteMachinatake care!
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04:52.05loner269hi all
04:55.41loner269the wireless hates me in elive
04:55.55keyraloner269: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
04:59.52loner269why cant i get it runnin rite if i do i pland on installin it an wiping the rest but for now still bugged about it not lettin me
04:59.57loner269any ideas?
05:01.34loner269PrinceAMD:  you around?
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05:50.54AlexAnteMachinahi
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05:52.26AlexAnteMachinasombody alive in here?
05:52.39AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD: ?
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05:54.17AlexAnteMachinaWhat happened to Thana`??
05:54.32AlexAnteMachinaHe's got shorter while sleeping!?
05:57.48Thybodif computers al
05:57.52ThyboAlexAnteMachina, ...
05:57.56Thybois away: I will be back... Oh yes I will be back!!!!
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06:03.32AlexAnteMachinahi!
06:03.43AlexAnteMachinasorry folks, but i had to restart x
06:17.44PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, yep
06:18.25AlexAnteMachinayep?
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06:19.04PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, u asked for me earlier
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06:21.50AlexAnteMachinayea i did
06:22.29PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, can u remember what u wanted?
06:22.42AlexAnteMachinaI was wondering if you might know a salvation for my problem.
06:23.21PrinceAMDwhat is your problem?
06:23.25AlexAnteMachinaI "killed" enlightenment by installing (updating via synaptic) a new nvidia driver.
06:23.59AlexAnteMachinanow the driver's version-number and the kernel's one do not fit together anymore.
06:24.22AlexAnteMachinai had such a stupid problem once before, but I cant remember it's solution anymore.
06:24.26AlexAnteMachinaDammit.
06:24.47PrinceAMDok what version of elive are you using
06:24.53AlexAnteMachinagem
06:25.19PrinceAMDyou updated to lenny?
06:25.26AlexAnteMachinano
06:25.41PrinceAMDok what is the name of the kernel you installed?
06:25.55AlexAnteMachinadont know.
06:26.00AlexAnteMachinaalfred?
06:26.30AlexAnteMachinaI never cared about kernel's name.
06:27.01AlexAnteMachinaJust installed Elive. So I bet it's still the default kernel
06:27.03PrinceAMDwell u should anyhow open synaptic and look for the kernel name
06:27.26PrinceAMDoh.
06:27.29AlexAnteMachinasynaptic is a graphical tool which cannt be run without graphix acceleration.
06:27.47PrinceAMDin terminal type uname -a
06:28.24AlexAnteMachinaokay.
06:28.30AlexAnteMachinaThanks for the hint!
06:28.46AlexAnteMachinaThere are 2 obstacles:
06:28.58AlexAnteMachinaI need to reboot to get elive running.
06:29.05AlexAnteMachinaand my dogs need to get out.
06:29.53PrinceAMDok anyhow u need to install nvidia-kernel or compile nvidia-source
06:30.03AlexAnteMachinaI think I'll go out with my monsters and then I'll boot elive and the 2nd computer, too.
06:30.21PrinceAMDu can compile nvidia-source by doing m-a a-i nvidia-source , u need m-a installed so do apt-get install module-assistant
06:30.53AlexAnteMachinaI cant keep it in mind now. I havent slept a minute for the whole night.
06:31.21PrinceAMDif u have nvidia kernel precompiled just install it, u should like for nvidia-kernel , use apt-cache search, if u find one that match ur kernel version install it
06:31.24AlexAnteMachinaI'll come back in 1 or 2 hours.
06:31.39PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, i have not slept too
06:31.49AlexAnteMachinalol.... I thought so.
06:32.02PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, i'll be back in 6-7 hrs good night :)
06:32.12AlexAnteMachinalol.... c u later!
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07:59.44Thybois back (gone 02:01:46)
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09:15.53Thybohello
09:15.53Thybocan anyone give me elive default radio plze?
09:16.02Thybothe url
09:16.03Thybo:)
09:16.16Thyboapt elive radio
09:25.49Wizard_good morning
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10:18.23bentejuygood morning!
10:40.09wasynytgood afternoon people
10:43.10bentejuygood afternoon wasynyt!
10:44.29wasynythow are you doing
10:45.05bentejuypretty good! thanks wasynyt :)
10:45.23bentejuyand you ?
10:46.41wasynytpretty well too
10:46.50wasynyt:D
10:46.55bentejuy:)
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10:47.15wasynytis wondering where he can find ~500 e for new bicycle
10:49.04wasynyt:D
10:49.28wasynytand ofcouse enjoying about the fact that the summer is comming
10:49.51wasynyt*course
10:50.49bentejuyhehe
10:51.00bentejuythe eternal problem, the money :)
10:52.31wasynytyup
10:56.58Thyboso noone can give me elivesdefault radiooooo?
10:57.29wasynythmm sorry i dont know what it is
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14:37.01loner269hi all
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14:38.30AlexAnteMachinahello!
14:39.06AlexAnteMachinaone awake!_
14:41.06AlexAnteMachina???
14:41.20loner269hi alex
14:44.39AlexAnteMachinahi loner
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14:45.22loner269i got no wireless i looked in somewere an amd talked about it too
14:45.36keyraloner269: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
14:45.42loner269but i got no wire to work on it
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14:47.17loner269hi PrinceAMD
14:47.44PrinceAMDloner269, hey
14:48.33loner269i got no wireless i saw you talked about it too what i do now?
14:48.50PrinceAMDwhat wireless card do u have?
14:49.02AlexAnteMachinainstall proper drivers.
14:49.12PrinceAMDmorning AlexAnteMachina
14:49.18AlexAnteMachinahi PrinceAMD
14:49.49loner269linksys g it need bcm4306 i forget  if the letters are rite but there ya go
14:50.15loner269alex i cant i cant get online once im in elive
14:50.33AlexAnteMachinagot a 2nd computer?
14:50.39loner269no
14:50.43AlexAnteMachinaand a kvm-switch?
14:50.47AlexAnteMachinadamn.
14:50.53AlexAnteMachinathat's bad.
14:50.55loner269i no it sucks
14:51.50AlexAnteMachinasolving computer-problems with only havin one working computer is a pain in the ass.
14:52.11loner269im on a different linux now its wireless is workin an its installed if i go on elive as a live disk can i take the wireless this uses an get elive on line that way to get it rite so i can install it
14:52.26keyraloner269: you don't know how install Elive ? honey... is not that hard...
14:52.33AlexAnteMachinawhat linux-distribution ar you using at the moment?
14:52.52loner269if i tell i wont get booted out of here?
14:53.00AlexAnteMachinanope
14:53.02loner269lol pclinuxos
14:53.13AlexAnteMachinanever tried it.
14:53.35loner269im on mini i didnt like it b4 an like it less now lol
14:53.36AlexAnteMachinaactually I'm on Dreamlinux because my Elive is broken, too.
14:54.53loner269amd did i loss ya?
14:55.00AlexAnteMachinaI am running several distros and from time to time I try new ones. Up to now Elive is one of the best!
14:55.15loner269yep i agree
14:55.49AlexAnteMachinaI'll have a look at Ubuntu and on Debian native.
14:56.02loner269my top 3 are elive sabayon then dsl
14:56.04keyraAlexAnteMachina: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
14:56.16AlexAnteMachinaDebian is what?
14:56.46AlexAnteMachinaI dislike Sabayon.
14:57.04loner269keyra:  this is a g rated room hun lol lol lol
14:57.11PrinceAMD[deon ~]$ lspci |grep Network
14:57.12PrinceAMD03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
14:57.21loner269i like it alot just hard to work with
14:57.40PrinceAMDwlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""  
14:57.40PrinceAMD<PROTECTED>
14:57.40PrinceAMD<PROTECTED>
14:57.40PrinceAMD<PROTECTED>
14:57.40PrinceAMD<PROTECTED>
14:57.42PrinceAMD<PROTECTED>
14:57.44PrinceAMD<PROTECTED>
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14:58.05AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD: what are you doing?
14:58.30PrinceAMDas u can see  loner269 i got no rate on this wireless card :(
14:58.45keyraPrinceAMD: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
14:59.03loner269so now im upset lol
15:00.17loner269if i was to use synapt to get the driver for this card again can i tell it to put it on a floppy so i can put in after i get elive up an take it off the floppy then?
15:03.03PrinceAMDloner269, lol this driver is now in linux kernel 2.6.24.4
15:03.14PrinceAMDif u have this kernel u have this driver automatically
15:03.28PrinceAMDbut if u have kernel 2.6.25 i think is better
15:03.31loner269i got gem 1
15:03.56PrinceAMDgem kernel old
15:04.05PrinceAMDtry elive 1.6.x
15:04.23PrinceAMDor wait elive 1.7 should be out today or tomorrow
15:04.25AlexAnteMachinaisnt that unstable?
15:05.10loner269i looked at 1.6 rox said its ruff but nice
15:07.12AlexAnteMachinaIs it possible installing a new kernel in Gem?
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15:09.54loner269im going to get eth driver stuff i need an put on a floppy then wile in elive hope i can get them off floppy to elive sound like it will work to me.
15:12.18AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD: ?
15:13.26Wizardgood afternoon
15:13.33AlexAnteMachinahi Wizard!
15:13.38Wizardhello AlexAnteMachina
15:13.42AlexAnteMachinanice to see you
15:13.59AlexAnteMachinaone guy more I can bother with my problems
15:14.01AlexAnteMachina:)
15:14.07Wizardcool
15:14.19AlexAnteMachinaI knew you would be pleased!
15:14.46Wizardas allways
15:14.49loner269lol hi wiz
15:14.52Wizardi feel terrible
15:14.55Wizardhi loner269
15:14.55PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, yes possible but u might have to compile it
15:15.28AlexAnteMachinayou know, I've already asked my good friend Papadizi, but he cant help, so I just came back here.
15:16.24AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD: I did what you told me. That module-assistant seems to be a nice tool, but the packages did not become installed yet.
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15:20.23AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD: it's looking for nvidia-kernel-sources with a "2.6.18-elive" in it's names. That's why it cant find matching packages.
15:21.32kevin_anyone know a way to reset an hd under linux?
15:21.48AlexAnteMachinapull the plug.
15:21.56kevin_i've a crashed disk where i can't remove partition
15:21.58AlexAnteMachina;)
15:22.09AlexAnteMachinatry Gparted.
15:22.41wasynytrecomends strong magnet
15:22.57kevin_parted, gparted, fdisk and dd return me errors on the current partition table and don't do anything
15:22.59kevin_lol wasynyt
15:23.06wasynytor perhaps high voltage appliead directly to the hd
15:23.07wasynyt:D
15:23.26wasynyt*applied
15:23.59AlexAnteMachinadid you use Gparted as a stand-alone tool?
15:24.14kevin_parted and gparted give me a funny error
15:24.16kevin_(parted) p                                                                
15:24.16kevin_Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
15:24.25kevin_yes, that a logical thing
15:25.08AlexAnteMachinahmm,... weird error.
15:26.49AlexAnteMachinai dont know. I never had such a Error.
15:27.18kevin_dd if=dd of=/dev/hdb bs=512 count=1
15:27.23kevin_don't do anything too
15:29.27loner269amd
15:29.30loner269?
15:29.38loner269any one
15:29.44wasynythmm
15:30.06loner269i got the inf an sys for the wireless will it now let me run elive wireless now?
15:30.15loner269or do i got to do something first
15:30.21keyraloner269: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
15:32.24kevin_loner269, what kind of wifi card?
15:32.38keyrakevin_: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
15:32.41loner269linksys g
15:33.03kevin_no linux driver?
15:33.21kevin_do you know the chip used by the card?
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15:35.23AlexAnteMachinaprinceamd
15:35.29AlexAnteMachinayou got a twin?
15:44.17AlexAnteMachinawhat a silent channel it has become
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15:46.13WatchwolfThanatermesis, hey hey :)
15:46.43WatchwolfI hope you work hard on elive 1.7 :)
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15:47.28loner269brb phone
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16:30.26ThanatermesisWatchwolf, of course!
16:30.32Thanatermesisit will be released soon
16:30.49Thanatermesisthis week :), i hope 1-2 days but.. who knows ? :)
16:31.19kevin_\o/ my hd work again :]
16:31.35kevin_hi Thanatermesis
16:31.39ThanatermesisWatchwolf, can you explain a bit about what you have say about etk/ewl yesterday ? why etk is not a good option ?
16:31.41Thanatermesiso/ kevin_ :)
16:31.45Thanatermesiskevin_, how that "again" ?
16:32.12kevin_i were have a disk with a die partition table
16:32.30kevin_and fdisk, parted, gparted and dd won't to reset the partition table
16:32.33Thanatermesisoh ok... no badkblocks,good then :)
16:33.04Thanatermesisyou tried gpart, to recover old partitions
16:33.11Thanatermesis?
16:33.13kevin_i've reseted an other disk and have copy the 512 first bloc on the lost disk
16:33.19kevin_yes
16:33.34kevin_all command were refused by gpart
16:33.50kevin_he said me i can't have partitions outside the disk
16:33.52kevin_lol
16:36.15Thanatermesiswell, now is good :)
16:36.23Thanatermesisyou need a extra HD for backups, like me :)
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16:42.41WatchwolfThanatermesis, etk is not bad but the project is a little dead :/
16:43.16Watchwolfmy gentoo is dead, I need a new distribution :p
16:45.54Wizardjentu is dead [citation needed]
16:46.32ThanatermesisWatchwolf, just install 1.7 ;)
16:46.44Wizard¡hola!
16:46.59keyraWizard: que tal ?
16:47.06ThanatermesisWatchwolf, remember, root terminal + "apt-get update ; apt-get install eliveinstaller-3g ; eliveinstaller.experimental" (reinstall it for if there's any possible update)
16:47.08Wizardbueno, keyra, bueno
16:47.09Thanatermesishi Wizard ! :)
16:47.13Wizardhi Thana
16:47.41ThanatermesisWatchwolf, PrinceAMD is doing things on etk now, he don't seems to think that is dead... what made you think that ?
16:48.30WizardThanatermesis: did you rewrite installer?
16:48.55Wizardor it's still same slack alike script?
16:49.38Thanatermesisslack alike ? lol
16:49.42Thanatermesisyes, im rewritting it
16:49.57Thanatermesiseliveinstaller.experimental is just a fast hack to have a available installer for who needs it :)
16:50.18Thanatermesisbut is not... "ready" for the end-users.. it just works :)
16:50.28Wizardyeah, slackware installer is also a shell script
16:50.40Wizardbut it uses dialog instead of xdialog/edialog, whatever :P
16:51.04Thanatermesisaha
16:52.34Wizard:)
16:52.53WatchwolfThanatermesis, tell him to test ewl and he will see how ewl is more powerful
16:53.02Watchwolfyou have an iso of the 1.7 ?
16:53.17PrinceAMDused ewl before he used etk
16:53.27WatchwolfPrinceAMD, and so you prefer etk ?
16:53.29PrinceAMDbut Thanatermesis told me etk is better so ... u took his word for it
16:53.41WizardPrinceAMD: use Xlib
16:53.46PrinceAMDnot really which i prefer but i can use both
16:53.59PrinceAMDWizard, i know u want to send me crazy
16:54.17Wizardlike allways
16:54.18WatchwolfPrinceAMD, personnaly I prefer ewl since I use it (1 weeks) but ewl has some bugs ::
16:54.24ThanatermesisWatchwolf, i like etk because is a dinamic edje interface, edje is totally stable so the interfaces of etk are pretty stable and usable... ewl.. well, i don't know much about ewl since it was totally unusable long time ago
16:54.44Thanatermesisand i think that ewl is not much "themeable"
16:55.19WatchwolfThanatermesis, I don't know about the interface engine, but etk is more beaufitul
16:55.53Watchwolfsme widgets as the tree, combox are more powerful in ewl
16:56.00Watchwolfcombobox *
16:56.12WatchwolfThanatermesis,  so If I want elive 1.7 I have to wait ?
16:56.53Thanatermesiswell, they are totally differents way of work, if im not wrong, etk is a simple dinamic edje interface, edje themeable, and edje interface... ewl is like "pure EFL's" (evas), and aparently it has only his default interface and not possible to do themes on it (at least on the edje way)
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16:57.32ThanatermesisWatchwolf, yes, just because is not uploaded yet, it takes around 7 hours to upload from here, i will upload it when i have finished to fix a few things ;)
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16:58.43WatchwolfThanatermesis, so go work :o
17:02.39Wizardlol
17:03.13Wizardi think qt4 is good option
17:03.26Thanatermesisremoves the audio alert of xchat to continue working without distractions :]
17:03.39Wizard*ping*
17:06.18Begasuspong
17:07.54kevin_<Thanatermesis> you need a extra HD for backups, like me :)
17:07.55kevin_i have
17:08.09kevin_that the disk of an old IBM, i'll try to install linux on
17:09.01Wizarddonn't try, just install :)
17:09.20kevin_i can't use cd or network for doing that
17:09.44kevin_the HD has only 1gb of capability, and i can't rsync an install from an other pc
17:10.31Wizardplug this disk in another machine, install and than attach it to your machine once again
17:10.48kevin_i need to install in a low memory mode
17:11.02kevin_in a normal mode the computer still not boot
17:11.08Wizardhow much ram does this machine use?
17:11.13Wizards/use/have/
17:11.18kevin_16M
17:11.25Wizardapt: i know what i meant :/
17:11.26aptYou know what i meant :/?
17:11.42Wizard:S
17:11.57Wizardthese bots are killing me
17:11.58kevin_i would to install a debian minimal to use it as router
17:12.05kevin_lol
17:12.12keyrakevin_: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
17:12.15Wizarduse debian netinst
17:12.32Wizardkeyra: get out!
17:12.33kevin_i can't
17:12.39Wizardkevin_: why?
17:12.51kevin_debian netinst need a bootable disk
17:12.59kevin_and i only can boot MS disk on
17:13.10Wizardi don't understand
17:13.29kevin_the bios is restricted on windows bootable disk
17:13.38kevin_-disk +CD
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17:18.33Elive_user97hello
17:19.10Wizardhello Elive_user97
17:20.38Elive_user97i'm new here and hope to learn the Linux ways
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17:21.02Wizardhehe
17:21.30Wizardwhat do you want to know exactly?
17:22.13Elive_user97just looking right now but will start and try to use commands
17:22.48Wizardso all you need is introduction to shell
17:23.33kevin_man /usr/bin/* XD
17:23.36kevin_lol
17:23.43kevin_hi Elive_user97
17:24.40Elive_user97hi kevin
17:27.10WizardElive_user97: i'm looking for some howto for you..
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17:28.52Wizardhttp://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html
17:28.56WizardElive_user97: here you are
17:29.04Elive_user97thanks
17:29.42Wizardyou can ommit chapters about installation
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17:32.14Wizardn0mad is crazy :/
17:32.22Wizardkeyra: do you love me?
17:32.37keyraWizard: yes, i love you
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17:33.59Wizard:)
17:34.56WatchwolfElive_user39, start by using a livecd
17:35.14WatchwolfElive_user97, :)
17:35.57Wizardwhoohoo! keyra loves me
17:36.16Watchwolfkeyra, is gay
17:36.22Wizardkeyra: will you sleep with me?
17:37.44Elive_user97I have installed using elive
17:38.27Elive_user97I went to the link wizard provide lots of info thanks!
17:39.39Wizard;)
17:43.30Wizardgtk-qt-engine seems broken
17:44.33Wizardcould something "just work"?
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19:06.27AlexAnteMachinahi folks!
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19:07.39AlexAnteMachinaanybody awake?
19:07.56AlexAnteMachinaFossZombie: ?
19:08.04AlexAnteMachinaroxville: ?
19:08.10AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis: ?
19:08.14AlexAnteMachinawasynyt: ?
19:08.18AlexAnteMachinaWizard: ?
19:08.25Wizard:)
19:08.32AlexAnteMachinahi!
19:09.38AlexAnteMachinawhats upß
19:09.40AlexAnteMachina?
19:12.26Wizardi'm talking with father
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19:19.10Wizarddone
19:19.14Wizard:)
19:19.30AlexAnteMachinawhat?
19:19.42Wizardtalking with father, he called me :)
19:20.02AlexAnteMachinaoh, u talked to your dad!?
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19:21.23Wizardyes
19:21.41Wizardi haven't been home for long time
19:22.41Wizardlike always he wanted to know few things: if i had girlfriend, what about my work, what about my studies
19:22.44Wizard:P
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19:25.34Elive_user91bonsoir
19:25.56Wizardehlo Nibeck
19:26.08NibeckI have a question
19:26.31NibeckHow have a wifi notification on desktop bottom ?
19:26.45keyraNibeck: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
19:27.28Nibeckmy wifi i supported and i've configure it but i don't look my signal
19:27.32Nibeckon the desktop
19:28.27Nibecksorry for my english
19:29.20WizardNibeck: check out watchwolf's hints: http://watchwolf.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=exalt
19:29.23WizardWatchwolf: ping
19:29.38Nibecki look that
19:29.43Wizardhe speaks french i think :P
19:32.10kevin_bonsoir Nibeck
19:32.37Nibeckbonsoir kevin_
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19:33.03AlexAnteMachinahi!
19:33.15Nibeckhi! AlexAnteMachina
19:33.22Wizardwb, Alex
19:33.27AlexAnteMachinaFolks, Dreamlinux is a pain in the ass.
19:33.34kevin_Nibeck, tu veux un widget wifi dans les barres de enlightenment?
19:33.36Wizardwe know
19:33.48keyrakevin_: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
19:33.50Wizarduh
19:33.59Wizardkeyra: zamknij się, szmato!
19:34.11AlexAnteMachinaWizard: I got a damn stupid problem.
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19:34.18Wizardshoot
19:34.23Wizardyou know i'm the best ;)
19:34.31kevin_lol
19:35.01Nibeck^^
19:35.09AlexAnteMachinaI killed nvidia-drivers.
19:35.24AlexAnteMachinai did a stupid update.
19:35.51AlexAnteMachinanow it's version-number doesnt match the kernel's one anymore.
19:36.13kevin_gcc error :)
19:36.19AlexAnteMachinaAnd the most stupid thing about it;
19:36.23kevin_see in the installer option
19:36.31AlexAnteMachinaI did that once before.... !
19:36.41kevin_to choice which version of gcc to use
19:37.06Nibeckkevin_, private message ?
19:37.07AlexAnteMachinaI'm such a moron
19:37.38kevin_Nibeck, si tu veux parler francais tu peux
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19:37.44AlexAnteMachinainstaller option?
19:37.46Nibeckah ok
19:37.52kevin_:)
19:37.59Nibeck<PROTECTED>
19:37.59Nibeck<Nibeck> qui m'a paru forte interressante
19:37.59Nibeck<Nibeck> pas de souci pour configuré ma bcm43xx, mais pas encore trouver toutes les petites astuce ^
19:37.59Nibeck<Nibeck> donc si tu peux me donner un petit coup de patte, je veux bien
19:38.08kevin_AlexAnteMachina, you are using nvidia's installer or elive's package?
19:38.30kevin_que souhaite tu savoir?
19:38.38kevin_en plus tu tombe bien j'utile un bn
19:38.39kevin_erf
19:38.45kevin_j'utilise un bcm43xx*
19:38.47Nibeckjustement pour cette histoire de notification wifi
19:39.02AlexAnteMachinauntil now I just managed to break it and had no idea how to fix it again.
19:39.12AlexAnteMachinaso actually I'm using nothing.
19:39.25Nibeckavec nediswrapper sa va tout seul, par contre comment la faire demarré a chaque boot?
19:39.38kevin_tu n'a pas besoin de ndiswrapper
19:39.46kevin_il existe un driver linux pour cette carte
19:39.54Nibeckj'ai essayer un ndiswrapper -m, mais il m'a jeter lol
19:40.16Nibecknon, pour la mienne j'ai tout essayer, et la seul methode a ete avec ndiswrapper
19:40.28kevin_c'est quel chipset?
19:40.32Nibeck4318
19:40.44kevin_j'ai un 4306 et il pose aucuns soucis
19:40.51kevin_ha, un recent, en effet ndis :)
19:41.15Nibeckmeme avec un kernel 2.4.6-24, qui est senser la supporter, cela ne fonctionne pas, on est obliger de blacklister le driver charger par le noyau et de passer par ndiswrapper
19:41.29kevin_regarde dans /etc/modules
19:41.46Nibeckc je que je penser, je vais aller verifier apres
19:41.49kevin_ouai j'ai cru voir qu'il y avait des bugs dans les dernieres version
19:42.15Nibeckpar contre un widet qui me montre les reseaux a porter et qui me permet de s'y conencteer, sa je voudrais bien
19:42.23Nibeckwidget
19:42.28kevin_les reseau a porter il y a pas
19:42.40kevin_il y a un widget qui te donne la portée du reseau
19:42.54kevin_sinon la selection de reseau se fait par le biais de network-admin
19:43.08Nibeckoui classique ^^
19:43.18Nibeckmasi je suis quand meme preneur du widget alors
19:43.21kevin_ouep
19:43.27kevin_il s'appel wlan
19:43.37Nibeckaprendre dans les depots?
19:43.48kevin_il fait parti des modules additionnels je crois
19:44.02kevin_e_modules ou e-module ne nom du paquet dans les depots
19:44.03Nibeck??
19:44.07kevin_le*
19:44.09Nibeckok
19:44.19Nibeckvais regarder sa une fois qu'il aura finit sa MAJ
19:44.48Nibeckderniére question betes, ya un support pour les boutons multimedia des portables ?
19:44.57Nibeckdu genre ceux du son eet du mute
19:45.21kevin_a travers E non
19:45.26Nibeckok
19:45.35kevin_par contre si ça t'interesse je dois avoir un script pour le gerer
19:45.45Nibecket un widgetr de controle volume?
19:45.47kevin_un petit binaire que tu met dans les racourcis clavier
19:46.03AlexAnteMachinaWizard: what makes you so silent?
19:46.17kevin_y en a 2 qui existent, le premier c'est esound et le second je sais plus son nom
19:46.28kevin_par contre ils ne supportent pas toutes les cartes son
19:47.05Nibeckok, vais regarder sa calmement, et je reviendrais poser des questions si mes recherche ne donne rien, j'aime bien farfouiller un peu avant de demander
19:47.19kevin_:)
19:47.43kevin_tu peux regarder dans les depots, il y a pas mal de paquets additionnels pour enlightenment
19:47.57kevin_quasiment tout les elive-* e-*
19:48.04kevin_sont pour enlightenment
19:48.57Nibeckderniere question bete, mais en mode consol quand tu veux editer un fichier en route tu utilise quel commande?
19:49.17kevin_nano
19:49.28kevin_nano /emplacement/du/fichier
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19:49.48Nibecksa lance un editeur en mode texte ou graphique
19:49.55kevin_texte
19:50.05Nibeckya pas en mode graphique ^^
19:50.10kevin_en graphique personnelement j'utilise gedit
19:51.06kevin_tu peux avoir gvim pour un editeur super light
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19:54.50Nibeckok, c bon avec gvim
19:55.17kevin_:)
19:55.22kevin_re morgan12
19:56.10Nibeckbon je regarde pour les adittionne
19:58.02Nibeckeuh.........;
19:58.20Nibeckje ne trouve pas les modules additionnel
19:58.57Nibeckje tente un reboot et je reviens
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20:01.11oklinuxwhere can I download elive ?
20:01.25keyraoklinux: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
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20:02.01Nibeckre
20:02.08oklinuxkeyra can you give me the link to download elive ?
20:02.09kevin_oklinux, you can download it from elivecd.org
20:02.20kevin_keyra, is a robot
20:02.23keyraoklinux: ask Thanatermesis :P
20:02.36keyrakevin_: you think so ?
20:03.05Nibeckkevin_, je ne trouve pas les modules additionnel ?
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20:03.25kevin_tu utilise la version developpement ou stable?
20:03.32Nibeckstable
20:03.35Nibeck1.0
20:03.45kevin_tu utilise la ligne de commande pour les chercher?
20:03.49oklinuxI cant find the link to download
20:04.02Nibecksur le coup, non j'avais deja synaptic de lancer
20:04.44kevin_en ligne de commande, tape: apt-cache search e | grep module
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20:06.06Nibeckouch
20:06.35kevin_?
20:06.51Nibeckvu la liste lol
20:07.17kevin_apt-cache search module | grep enlightenment
20:08.28Nibeckj'ai que engage module
20:08.59kevin_tu est allé voir dans les module enlightenment s'il ne sont pas déjà installé?
20:10.16Nibeckdans le panel de configuration - module?
20:10.45Nibeckdans mudle setting, je presume
20:10.55WatchwolfNibeck, kevin_ Exalt fournit un widget qui liste les réseaux entre autre
20:11.04kevin_click droit sur une barre -> configuré le contenu
20:11.09Watchwolfmais je suis pas sur que ealt soit fournit avec la version stable
20:11.16Nibeckoui, mais sane me botte pas la compilation pour ce soir
20:11.21kevin_Watchwolf, exalt est compatible sur le 027 de E?
20:11.41Watchwolfkevin_, je sais pas, j'utilise tjrs la derniere version, y a pas un paquet dans synaptic  ?
20:12.43kevin_je sais pas, je n'ai pas d'elive sous la main actuelement
20:13.41Nibeckpas pour paretre cruche kevin_, mais pas de bar sur elive
20:13.57Watchwolfpareil ^^ , sinon exalt est fait pour tourner avec la version cvs des efl, et je ne sais pas quel est la version de la versiob stable de elie
20:14.07WatchwolfThanatermesis, do you know if exalt work with the stable realease of e17 ?
20:14.34kevin_Nibeck, tu n'a pas les widget en bas de l'ecran?
20:15.21ThanatermesisWatchwolf, stable release of e17 ?
20:15.55Nibecken bas au millieu, j'ai la barre de raccourci applicatif (ibar je suppose), et en bas a droite, j'ai un widget de batterie,et quand je fait un clic droit dessus j'ai juste mode edition
20:16.28kevin_clic droit sur les bords de la ibar
20:16.39WatchwolfThanatermesis, 1.0 :o
20:16.43kevin_sinon, click gauche -> configuration -> panneau de configuration -> modules
20:16.45Watchwolfof elive * :)
20:17.21Nibeckmodule setting, oui je suis dessus
20:17.26Nibeckmais pas de wifi
20:17.40keyraNibeck: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
20:17.57Nibecklol keyra
20:17.59Nibeckwifi
20:18.14WatchwolfNibeck, the network tools is called exalt
20:18.24Watchwolfessaye de lancer "exalt" depuis une console
20:19.01Nibeckinconnu au bataillon en tant que binaire
20:19.24WatchwolfNibeck, oki alors c'est que exalt n'est pas fournit avec lav ersion de elive que tu as, regarde si il est dans synaptic
20:19.25kevin_Watchwolf, tu connais le nom du paquet qui contient les modules additionnels?
20:19.33Watchwolfsinon faudrait le compiler et ca pas sur que ca marchera
20:20.14Watchwolfkevin_, pas sans doute module ou quelque chose comme ca :p
20:21.24Nibecklol
20:21.37kevin_il me semblait de tete que c'etait e-modules mais a priori non
20:23.35Nibecke-modules for E17 created with EFL (enlightenment foundation libraries)
20:23.49Thanatermesiswasynyt, aaaaah :)
20:23.49Nibeckj'ai un package e-module mais c du cvs
20:23.55ThanatermesisWatchwolf, i mean
20:24.13ThanatermesisWatchwolf, i don''t think so.... the version of Gem is BEFORE the shelves system
20:24.25Thanatermesistoo much old for exalt code
20:24.30WatchwolfThanatermesis, oki :)
20:24.39keyraThanatermesis: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes
20:24.46kevin_Nibeck, ils sont stables quand meme
20:25.00Nibeckdonc c bine celui la qu'il faut que j'install ?
20:25.07kevin_oui
20:26.04ThanatermesisWatchwolf, with a bit of luck, i will upload it this night ;)
20:26.07Nibeckok parti
20:27.04WatchwolfThanatermesis,  I ll be busy tomorrow, so  Ill try sunday :)
20:28.44Thanatermesisok :)
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