IRC log for #elive on 20080428

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03:01.44Elive_user51_eshola ay alguien alli
03:01.58keyraElive_user51_es: que tal ?
03:03.27Elive_user51_escomo puedo instalar elive?
03:05.53Elive_user51_esusas el live cd?
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03:07.35Elive_user51_esalguien por alli? necesito informacion de elive acerca de su instalacion
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03:08.34Elive_user51_eshello?? jajajaj
03:09.16Seablade_hablo espanol muy poco y muy mal, hables ingles?
03:09.21Seablade_or not....
03:09.37Seablade_Hehheh
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03:10.37Dartho|awayelive 1.7 can be installed ?
03:10.55Seablade_I do not believe so at this point in time, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet
03:11.07Testureis terminal the only way to install programs
03:11.15Wizardhmm.. i would say - why not?
03:11.38Wizardif you know a bit about linux, booting mechanisms, rc scripts and so on - you may try
03:12.02Seablade_Testure: No, there should be an equivalent to synaptic, don't have access to a second computer right now to check for how to access it
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03:12.14Seablade_Testure: So I can't help to much there sorry
03:12.40Seablade_Wizard: Nothing stopping you from trying, but at the point you are writing your own init scripts, I think you have left the user friendly realm ELive is aiming for;)
03:13.13WizardSeablade_: depends what kind of user you are :D
03:13.45Seablade_Wizard: Absolutely;)  But then again when I am doing things like this I just install Gentoo anyways to do that with;)  Most people don't want to deal with that in my experience
03:13.48Testureso you have to install synaptic
03:14.08Seablade_Testure: I do not believe so, but can't remember right off hand, I believe ELive has an equivalent to it
03:14.39Wizardsynaptic works on all apt-based systems
03:14.40Seablade_Testure: My computer is chugging away on multiple things right now, but once it is done I will download a 1.7 version and run it in a VM to double check the exacts
03:14.45Wizardon elive too
03:15.00Seablade_Wizard: Yep, but I thought eLive had a similar program in their elive panel?
03:15.10Seablade_Wizard: Just not synaptic itself
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03:16.05Wizardit is synaptic
03:16.15Seablade_Wizard: Heh ok good to be corrected then
03:16.37Wizardi prefere aptitude..
03:16.52Testurefound it, its called packages manager
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03:17.17Seablade_Heh I prefer portage, but I guess that is kinda out of the topic there.  To used to commandline anyways myself
03:17.28Wizardportage..
03:17.35Wizardnightmare ;D
03:17.40Seablade_Awesomeness
03:17.42Seablade_HehHeh
03:17.45Wizardi was building e17 yesterday..
03:17.51Seablade_So easy to handle compilations and customizations of them
03:17.56Wizardi forgot to add jpeg use flag..
03:18.08Wizardof course emerge didn't add by itself..
03:18.14Wizardand e17 was unusable..
03:18.43Wizardthan i spent half day on: emerge -uDN world and revdep-rebuild
03:18.48Wizard:|
03:19.03Seablade_I can see that, then again I can easily add in custom features to packages, for instance VST support in Ardour, when I need it, and not have to worry about downloading and installing all the dev packages
03:19.24Wizardgentoo is very nice distro
03:19.26Wizardi like it..
03:19.31Seablade_Wizard: I can't say I have had a problem of that nature in portage in quite some time, but it certainly isn't as easy to use as apt either
03:19.45keyraSeablade_: don't ask to ask, ask your problem
03:19.52Wizardkeyra: shut up
03:19.56Seablade_HehHheh
03:20.06keyraWizard: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis
03:20.12Wizardyeah, yeah..
03:20.13Seablade_Keyra I swear stalks me on the internet, starts jumping on me the moment I get in here on the rare occasions I get in here
03:20.30Seablade_HehHeh
03:20.41Wizard'update me'
03:20.51Seablade_Is THAT what its called these days?
03:20.52Wizardbah.. my gentoo finally has some gui
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03:21.03WizardSeablade_: i don't know :P
03:21.07Elive_user42_eshi
03:21.20Seablade_howdy, you were the spanishspeaker earlier weren't you?
03:21.21Wizardbut looking at Keyra fotos.. i have only one thing in mind :P
03:21.37Wizardi think _es suggests that ;)
03:21.39Seablade_Sorry I am slow and really bad at english, was remembering how to write at all in it when  you left;)
03:21.46Seablade_err really bad at spanish
03:22.12Wizardbah.. i stil have problems with english :)
03:22.20Seablade_Well so do I, but I am just lazy
03:22.36Wizardso what's your native language?
03:22.49Seablade_Redneck?
03:23.03Wizardlol
03:23.09Seablade_Heh American English is supposed to be
03:23.09Wizarddon't even try that on me
03:23.44Elive_user42_eshi, how good are the repositories?
03:23.45Wizardthere were few americans here.. i allways had problems with understanding their slang
03:23.49Seablade_HehHeh, I am not that bad, I grew up in a redneck county, but other than the affect it had on my accent, most of it is gone now, except things like y'all
03:24.33WizardElive_user42_es: i won't even shoot how many apps/libs are in debian repos
03:24.35Seablade_Elive_user42_es: I honestly don't remember right off hand how good they are, are you looking for something in particular?
03:24.47keyraWizard: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
03:24.56Wizardkeyra: i told you something
03:25.00Seablade_Wizard: Does eLive now enable the default debian ones right away?  Used to be if I remember correctly those had to be enabled by hand?
03:25.06Seablade_Bah nevermind
03:25.30Wizardit uses debian repos + those from debian multimedia
03:25.33Seablade_Danged Keyra;)
03:25.35Wizardquite good set
03:25.41Elive_user42_esoh good
03:25.45Seablade_Good, that was a major complaint people had of it back a while back
03:25.51Seablade_then yes, they would be pretty good repos
03:26.00Wizardthey are :)
03:26.16Elive_user42_esI m just trying it as a vm using virtualbox
03:26.29Seablade_Virtualbox is a great setup
03:26.30Wizardand i'm thinking about going to bed
03:26.42Wizardit's 5:30am here :P
03:27.04Seablade_Heh that is ok, I just swung by here to relay a very good review on the general linux UI experience in Ubuntu, that can be put to good use on eLive
03:27.21Elive_user42_esbut I dont undertand exactly what libs use elive for its Desktop
03:27.32Seablade_Wizard: Heh nice and 11:30PM here, 5:30 AM I only like being up if I am still up from the night before and can sleep in VERY late
03:27.33Elive_user42_esgtk or qt ?
03:27.58Wizardmostly gtk apps ;) firefox, thunderbird, thunar
03:28.00Seablade_eLive uses the efl for its desktop, specifically the window manager is e17 which is built off the efl
03:28.11Seablade_but many applications are gtk
03:28.13Wizardhmm.. not true..
03:28.20Seablade_hmm?
03:28.24Wizardor maybe..
03:28.26Wizardbah, true ;D
03:28.34Wizardyou are right, sorry
03:28.46Wizardi have problems with understanding english..
03:28.54Elive_user42_esspanish?
03:28.56Seablade_Personally I love the efl, I need to sit down and really dig into it sometime, specifically the python bindings for it, but haven't had time to
03:28.58Wizardnope
03:29.04Elive_user42_esI have problem with english
03:29.07Elive_user42_es:(
03:29.12Seablade_lesse 5:30 AM... German?
03:29.17WizardPole
03:29.18keyraElive_user42_es: don't ask to ask, ask your problem
03:29.22Seablade_Close
03:29.39Seablade_No matter, you still smarter than me when it comes to languages...
03:29.46Wizardwhy?
03:29.49Seablade_Americans are freakin lazy when it comes to learning other languages
03:29.56Wizardhehe :)
03:29.57Seablade_We only learn one in schools here really
03:30.15Seablade_the very little and poor spanish I did learn(And still remember) was all optional when I went through
03:30.29Wizardi learned english in school, on irc (:P), and from linux documentation
03:30.34Seablade_Failed French twice, Spanish once, and manage to get through three years of it afterwards
03:30.37Wizardthan i had to learn to speak ;)
03:30.58Elive_user42_eshas elive automatic updates support?
03:31.04Wizardsure
03:31.09Seablade_Heh I should start reading more languages, I just suck at learning anything language related myself
03:31.39Wizardi even attempted to read literature in english..
03:32.06Wizardbut those were poor attempts :P
03:32.39Elive_user42_esand the hard question... what do u think about elive with a AMD64 bit processor?
03:32.45Seablade_Heh I remember when I spent some time in Europe while I was younger I picked up some fiction I knew in english, translated to italian, didn't work out so well for me though
03:32.51Wizardi was using elive on amd64
03:32.53keyraElive_user42_es: please make a look to http://old.elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/27.html
03:33.01Seablade_AMD64 is fine, that is what I ran on my workstation before it died
03:33.08Elive_user42_esWizard, had u conflicts?
03:33.28Wizardsome problems with gfx card, but it was fscking via unichrome
03:33.42Seablade_Unichrome... that says enough;)
03:33.43Wizardit worked just as ordinary 32bit machine
03:33.48Wizardyeah ;D
03:34.14Wizardnow i'm on powerbook, too bad apple machines are so expansive in Poland
03:34.19Seablade_I am hoping the open sourced ATi drivers hurry up and get fully supported myself, in the meantime I run NVidia
03:34.29Seablade_Wizard: Macbook Pro here, had a powerbook before this
03:34.53Seablade_Wizard: Considering how expensive they are over here, I don't even wanna think about how much you probably had to pay
03:35.01Wizardi didn't have cash for new one.. bought old powerbook from internet auction
03:35.33Seablade_Wizard: I can certainly understand that, I was forced to upgrade recently for a job I needed a x86 processor for
03:35.42Wizard:)
03:35.45Seablade_Wizard: Really did not have the money at the time, am still paying for it
03:36.09Seablade_Wizard: Personally I like the PPC architecture, just supporting x86 is much easier
03:36.21Wizardbut, hardware is 3 years old and it behaves pretty good
03:36.28Wizardonly battery has.. ee..
03:36.43Wizardhmm.. i don't know how to say that in english :|
03:37.03Wizardit does not work long :P
03:37.10Seablade_Ahh ok
03:37.39Seablade_Mine started going downhill some, of course I still have one of the recalled Sony batteries that are known to explode
03:37.47Seablade_in my powerbook that is
03:37.53Wizard(that was 33th episode of 'Wizard's language hacks')
03:38.01Elive_user42_esthe downloadble elive iso is a 32bit OS ?
03:38.09Wizardyes
03:38.12Seablade_I believe so
03:38.15keyraElive_user42_es: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
03:38.17WizardThana does not suuport any other arch
03:38.23Wizardsupport*
03:38.52Seablade_Heh someone modified the elive image for porn?  Heh for some reason I find that very funny
03:39.01Wizard;)
03:39.19Wizardhmms
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03:40.20Wizardi have ~5 pubs and 2 discos located less than 500 meters from me..
03:40.24Wizardi don't need porn ;)
03:40.39Elive_user51_esi need help S.O.S
03:40.48Wizardshoot
03:41.00Wizardi'm in good mood today
03:42.06olrrai_elive is only a Desktop / Laptop computers project?
03:42.43Seablade_compared to?
03:42.44olrrai_ping
03:42.50olrrai_compared to ubuntu
03:43.05Seablade_They are both distributions intended for general desktop and laptop use
03:43.23Seablade_eLive I tend to find slightly better for media by default myself
03:43.40olrrai_oh, like ubuntu studio
03:43.45Seablade_but Ubuntu tends to be just a bit more smoothly supported in general at the moment
03:43.48Wizardyeah.. allmost everything works out of the box
03:43.58Seablade_Kind of, but Ubuntu studio is much more geared to media creation and editing
03:44.06Elive_user51_esHow to install 4 different operating systems?
03:44.45Seablade_eLive is a bit better for just standard users doing quick edits etc.  Ubuntu studio tends to be geared slightly for a more professional level
03:44.57Seablade_Elive_user51_es: What OSes?
03:45.21Wizardtoo bad i can't make my internal mic and audio input working on linux
03:45.29Elive_user51_eswindowsxp windowsVista debian and elive
03:45.33Seablade_Wizard what audio card?
03:45.36Elive_user51_eswindowsxp windowsVista debian already
03:46.13Seablade_ELive_user51_es: So you already have a triple boot setup?
03:46.18Wizardpowerbook's internal
03:46.24Wizardi don't remember chip
03:46.41Wizardin few days i'm going to buy new guitar :)
03:46.44Wizard\o/
03:46.46Wizardat least
03:46.52Elive_user51_esyes
03:47.01Seablade_Wizard: Oh yea, forgot you already told me the laptop, bah you are going to make me have to look it up sometime, but yes the PPC archtecture is not quite as supported as the Intel on many levels, so it wouldn't surprise me if the driver for that isn't really finished well for PPC
03:47.31Seablade_Wizard: Heh I need to buy a new guitar, been eyeing a Martin 0016GTE for a while myself
03:48.04Seablade_Elive_user51_es: Well the easiest way would be to create another partition just for elive, and add it to your boot manager... speaking of which what is your current boot manager?
03:48.21Seablade_Elive_user51_es: or do you know?
03:48.38Elive_user51_esyes my boot manager is grub
03:48.50WizardSeablade_: i want to buy Cort, Ibanez or Mayoness
03:48.52Seablade_Elive_user51_es: Are you familiar with how to add another OS to its menu?
03:49.09Wizardcomparable, nice quality for 'garrage playing'
03:49.16Seablade_Wizard: Electric player hmm?
03:49.50Seablade_Wizard: I have eben keeping an eye on a Variax for electric, but that is a ways down the road, I have been taking classical guitar lessons lately
03:50.05Wizardi started as a bassist few years ago, than i bought acoustic guitar, mostly for 'drinking parties' and experimented with blues
03:50.11olrrai_anyone can install skype 2 in elive?
03:50.11Elive_user51_esi think, use boot/menu.lst
03:50.11Seablade_Wizard: I am much more of a folk rock person myself
03:50.55Wizardnow i think it's good way to extend my skills, buy electric guitar, train 2-3 years and form blues band ;)
03:51.38Seablade_Elive_user51_es: Ok this is something you would want to research first before you do anything, but the basic process for you would be to create a new partition, install the new OS on it, not install another bootloader during the install, and add it to your already existing grub menu
03:52.25Seablade_olrrai: Hmm gotta check if Skype2 is supported in Linux before I could answer that, as long as you can install it in Linux though I don't see any reason youcouldn't install it in eLive
03:52.27Wizardor install second grub in superblock
03:53.03Wizardthat's easier, you have to add only 'other' entry in your main grub :P
03:53.07Wizardis lazy
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03:53.50Wizardok, i'm going to sleep
03:54.03Wizardonly one more cigarette..
03:54.05Wizardbye
03:54.05Elive_user48Can anyone tell me why the default repositories are failing in Symantic? http://repository.elivecd.net xxx
03:54.05Wizardo/
03:54.21Elive_user51_esI then add a new
03:55.15Seablade_Good night Wizard
03:55.37Seablade_Actually I think I am going to sleep as well
03:55.48Seablade_About midnight and might have a meeting way to early in the morning
03:55.58Elive_user51_es
03:55.59Elive_user51_esHow can specify the boot elive? on grub?
03:56.13Elive_user51_esi already install elive
03:56.45Elive_user51_esin a new partition, and i don't install the grub elive
03:56.53Seablade_Elive_user51_es: An entry in menu.lst consist of several things, namely it tells grub where to find the kernel, initrd if applicable, and any settings to be passed upon bootup
03:57.22Seablade_Elive_user51_es It might be best to look at the existing documentation for menu.lst, I know some good stuff can be found in the Gentoo docs
03:57.39Seablade_But also checking the Grub website would probably be a good diea
03:58.01Seablade_As long as you don't modify any of the existing entries however you shouldn't have a problem booting into one of your working installs
03:58.15keyraSeablade_: If you have boot problems better to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf
03:58.19Elive_user51_esok thanks
03:58.23Seablade_Elive_user51_es I don't have the exact locations and filenames to give you the full entry myself right now, sorry
03:58.36Seablade_Good night everyone
03:58.41Seablade_Especially Keyra;)
03:58.44Seablade_HehHeh
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04:06.44Elive_user51_esalguien habla español?
04:08.12Elive_user51_esCan someone speaks Spanish?
04:33.45olrrai_Elive_user51: yo
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04:46.49olrraihi again
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06:21.59olrraiwhere is the system monitor?
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12:26.31AlexAnteMachinahallo everybody!
12:27.48Thybohallo AlexAnteMachina :)
12:27.54AlexAnteMachinahi thybo!
12:29.14Thybo:)
12:29.15Thybowazzup?
12:29.19Thybonice weather 4 u too?:p
12:29.44AlexAnteMachinayep!
12:30.05AlexAnteMachinagreat! but it'll change and get colder this evening.
12:31.20AlexAnteMachinaAnd the best: I got a flew!
12:32.17AlexAnteMachinaso I neednt work!
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14:47.38she_diedhello?
14:47.59wasynytzzZZz
14:48.35she_diedwhispers sorry...
14:48.47wasynyt:D
14:49.14wasynytwell i really should go to sleep.. even thou it is only 1750
14:49.36she_diedthats happy hour in some part of the world
14:49.49wasynytmost likely
14:50.01she_diedunless you really want to get monday out of the way already
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14:50.34she_diedhey man do you use conky with e? e17?
14:50.35wasynytnah just woke up early.. and i am not used to it
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14:50.44wasynytconky ?
14:50.53she_diedits like gkrellm in some ways
14:51.11she_diedmonitors and statuses CPU and memhogs can be shown
14:51.17she_diedoh my
14:52.00wasynytwhat does it need to run
14:52.03she_diedso you can slap it onto e's desktop, wtih transparent bg
14:52.18she_diedhardly anything, its satndalone with an .rc file
14:52.24she_diedstandalone*
14:52.25wasynyti cannot see why not
14:52.39she_diedmatter of fact, i run it all the time with e
14:52.50she_diedmy problem is positioning it
14:53.42she_diede17 either positions it at the cursor  so 2 conkys wind up overlapping
14:53.51she_diedor if I choose smart placement they're side-by-side
14:55.16she_diedeven played with -geoemtry to set coordinates
14:55.27she_diedor hardcoded them in the .rc but no luck *sigh
14:55.41keyrashe_died: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes
14:55.42wasynythmm dunno
14:55.59wasynyti dont use any desktop applets/widgets or icons
14:56.18she_diednothing like CPU or clock or weather ?
14:56.53she_diedonly the e-modules?
14:57.10wasynytyeah
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14:57.25AlexAnteMachinahi folks!
14:57.29she_diedlet me ask you, ever used the calendar module?
14:57.39she_diedthe one that shows the month
14:57.41wasynytnope
14:58.08she_diedi also miss erss (the rss module)
14:58.22AlexAnteMachinawhat has she_died from?
14:58.35she_diedor where?
14:59.15AlexAnteMachinawhat r u asking me?
14:59.32she_diedno i was asking wasynyt about modules
14:59.33wasynytAlexAnteMachina, never mind
14:59.41AlexAnteMachinaIt's you the one with the strange nickname
15:00.36AlexAnteMachinaleft his mind in his bedisde locker
15:01.00wasynytbrains are sleeping
15:01.03she_died'e_lives! she_died
15:01.24AlexAnteMachinaoh, she died because e lives?
15:01.48AlexAnteMachinafolks, can one introduce me to that e?
15:01.57she_died'e lives (with a British accent, disappearing h sound)
15:02.05wasynytapt slap AlexAnteMachina
15:02.06aptACTION slaps AlexAnteMachina, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
15:02.31AlexAnteMachinagot no idea about britisch accents.
15:03.19AlexAnteMachinawasynyt: nice to know that you make others to the dirty work for you.
15:03.46she_diedso he doesn't mess up his clothes
15:03.46wasynytit took so long for you to notice that :D
15:03.53wasynytyeah
15:04.06wasynytand bots should do the dangerous work
15:04.13AlexAnteMachinaI was just waiting for the right moment.
15:04.28wasynyti dont like to be eaten by your dogs
15:04.38AlexAnteMachina???
15:04.47she_diedhe has fembots!
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15:05.25wasynytAlexAnteMachina, if i would try to go there and slap you your dogs would eat me
15:05.27wasynyt:S
15:05.32AlexAnteMachinanope.
15:05.42AlexAnteMachinathey are more like sheep
15:05.48AlexAnteMachinanore like dogs.
15:06.02AlexAnteMachinaups.. less like dogs.
15:06.08she_diedAlexAnteMachina: but sheep with sharp fangs!
15:06.19AlexAnteMachinaWereSheep!
15:06.25wasynyt!
15:06.25she_diedlol
15:06.54AlexAnteMachinaShaun the Sheep
15:08.11AlexAnteMachinathe elder dog really looks pretty much like shaun.
15:08.26wasynythttp://www.blacksheep-themovie.com/
15:11.21AlexAnteMachinacool!
15:11.24she_diedis it for real thats hilarious
15:11.54wasynytthat is for real
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15:12.39AlexAnteMachinayeah! Flesheating Sheep!
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15:13.18AlexAnteMachinaThose make my old grumpy Malamute look like an toothless tiger.
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15:18.06she_diedgtg folks c u soon
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15:18.21AlexAnteMachinacu
15:20.18wasynytsee you
15:21.40AlexAnteMachinaweird.
15:21.49AlexAnteMachinashe died and then walked away.
15:27.06wasynytshe must be one of those "living" dead
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15:27.53AlexAnteMachinaprobably
15:29.38AlexAnteMachinawasynyt: I'm about to buy an axe.
15:31.44wasynytwhat kind of axe are you going to get
15:32.09AlexAnteMachinaprobably a Fiskars
15:32.18wasynytheh
15:32.25wasynytsmall or big one
15:32.40AlexAnteMachinaa small one to carry with me
15:33.07AlexAnteMachinawhen the inquisitive people coming to ask stupid questions....
15:33.16wasynyt:/
15:33.27wasynyti dont think that is a good solution
15:33.34AlexAnteMachinaits is the best.
15:33.46wasynytperhaps some sort of machete would work better
15:33.57AlexAnteMachinawhere I came from, we solved nearly everything by using axes.
15:34.09AlexAnteMachinafiskars also sells machetes.
15:34.51wasynyti know
15:36.29AlexAnteMachinaI like that tiny axe.
15:36.50AlexAnteMachinaand the next larger.
15:37.41wasynytwell your way of solving problems seem quite straight forward
15:38.31AlexAnteMachinaWell, to be honest I'm escaping from those inquisitive people.
15:38.51AlexAnteMachinaAnd in the woods an axe is a very useful tool.
15:39.01wasynyttrue
15:39.09AlexAnteMachinaI already got a collapsable saw.
15:39.10wasynytwhy would those people hunt you
15:39.17wasynytthose are handy
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15:39.24AlexAnteMachinathey do not chase me.
15:40.12wasynytbut you still want to dig their grave ?
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15:40.18AlexAnteMachinathey are just annoying me.
15:40.57AlexAnteMachinaI will not dig any grave.
15:41.05wasynyti dont think that is a good enough reason
15:41.08AlexAnteMachinaoh, well, some day I'll have to.
15:41.12wasynytwhy use axe then
15:41.24wasynytheh
15:41.38AlexAnteMachinadude, what do you think an axe can be used in the woods?  
15:41.44AlexAnteMachinaFor makeing firewood!
15:42.39wasynytwell.. are you allowed to chop trees in germany
15:42.50AlexAnteMachinalol... I neednt chop them.
15:43.16AlexAnteMachinadue to the last storms theres a lot of trees and mighty branches lying around.
15:43.40wasynytare you allowed to make campfire where you want
15:43.43wasynyt?
15:43.47AlexAnteMachinanot really
15:43.57AlexAnteMachinabut I dont care.
15:44.36wasynytheh
15:44.38wasynytnice attitude
15:45.04AlexAnteMachinaIf one was following all german laws you couldnt even walk throug the woods where you like to.
15:45.16wasynyt!
15:45.25AlexAnteMachinaand its not a crime.
15:46.43wasynytthen there is no punishment either
15:47.01AlexAnteMachinanot really
15:47.16wasynytodd laws
15:47.20AlexAnteMachinaits just a form of regulatory offense
15:47.32wasynytthere should be no laws that cannot be enforced
15:47.51AlexAnteMachinalol
15:47.55wasynytthose eat the respect of important laws
15:48.16AlexAnteMachinayou've stayed too long in the army, i guess.
15:48.24AlexAnteMachina;=)
15:49.27wasynyt:D
15:49.31wasynytthat could be
15:51.00AlexAnteMachinaI guess I'd prefer living somewhere in Scandinavia.
15:51.19AlexAnteMachinaWide area!
15:51.29AlexAnteMachinaMuch space! Less people!
15:51.42wasynytheh
15:51.46AlexAnteMachinaThat makes people more relaxed.
15:52.01wasynytlots of people come here to camp
15:52.14AlexAnteMachinaI know.
15:52.41AlexAnteMachinathat's another great thing: You can camp nearly everywhere!
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15:53.18wasynytbut you are not allowed to make campfire where ever you want
15:54.14AlexAnteMachinaalso got a cooking stove. That makes campfire unnecessary.
15:55.05AlexAnteMachinahere in germany it's not allowed to camp outsides special camping-areas.
15:55.10wasynytthose are really handy
15:55.37wasynytwell here you can make fire if you have land owners permission and it doesnt cause any danger
15:56.09AlexAnteMachinabtw: during the warm seasons it's not to be recommended sleeping outsides due to the horrible amount of TICKS we got!
15:57.37wasynythmm
15:58.02wasynytthere are quite a lot of ticks here too.. but it really doesnt matter if you dont sleep in long grass
15:59.43wasynyt<PROTECTED>
15:59.45wasynyt5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 9366ms
15:59.45wasynytrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1905.302/2003.730/2069.270/73.202 ms, pipe 3
15:59.49wasynytnice nice
16:00.07AlexAnteMachinathe ticks are not really the problem. but they transfer deseases like  tick-borne encephalitis and  borreliosis!
16:01.02AlexAnteMachinawhen I was a child that was not a thread to us. But during the last years the number of infections rose dramatically.
16:01.12wasynytthere are pre-take medicins for those
16:01.29wasynyti cant remember the correct english word
16:01.31wasynyt:S
16:01.38AlexAnteMachinaonly for  tick-borne encephalitis
16:01.55AlexAnteMachinavaccination
16:02.01wasynytyeah
16:02.04wasynyt:D
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16:02.54AlexAnteMachinabut there is no vaccination against Lyme disease
16:03.27wasynytthat could be
16:03.38wasynytdamn my connection sucks :S
16:04.58AlexAnteMachinaonly antibiotic helps against Lyme Disease
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16:05.11wasynytso it seems
16:05.31AlexAnteMachinawhat wrong with that connection?
16:07.49wasynytmy ping to anywhere is 2 s. and it is slow as..
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16:10.35AlexAnteMachinathat's really slow.
16:12.42wasynytyeah.. and i cant change it
16:12.44wasynyt:S
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16:42.13Elive_user21hola
16:42.20Elive_user21i need help
16:42.27keyraElive_user21: que tal ?
16:42.34Elive_user21hola brother
16:42.41Elive_user21necesito ayuda con elive
16:42.42Thybohola Elive_user21
16:42.43Thybodime
16:42.45Elive_user21creo k la jodi
16:42.52Thyboque haces en japon ?;)
16:42.57Elive_user21mira cambie la profundidad
16:43.00Elive_user21de la pantalla
16:43.07Thyboaja
16:43.11Elive_user21bueno vivo y trabajo aki
16:43.19Thyboaja
16:43.23Elive_user21no puedo entrar al sistema
16:43.24Thyboconichiwa :p
16:43.28Elive_user21k
16:43.30Thybollegas al enrance?
16:43.33Elive_user21konbanwa
16:43.50Elive_user21no llego ni aponer mi nombre y pass
16:43.57Thybohm
16:44.03Thybono tienes la pantalla de login?
16:44.09Elive_user21me deja en pura terminal
16:44.11Thybote quedas con un cosa de texto asi
16:44.13Thyboah weno
16:44.14Thyboentonces
16:44.15Elive_user21no llego ahi
16:44.21Thybola cosa del texto
16:44.42Elive_user21si pero k hago el startx
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16:45.39Thybobueno
16:45.40Elive_user21k podria yo hacer ahi
16:45.45Thyboespera tienes que hacer
16:45.47Elive_user21no recuerdo bien como era en debian
16:46.05Elive_user21dpkg'reconfigure
16:46.11Elive_user21pero no sirvio
16:46.32Thybopera te lo digo en un seg
16:46.33Thybo:)
16:46.40Elive_user21ok
16:46.58Elive_user21recuerdo k me dio un comando a llamar xconfigurator
16:47.09Elive_user21pero ni idea de como colarlo
16:49.17Thybointenta debconf
16:49.34Elive_user21y donde coloco eso
16:49.41Elive_user21<PROTECTED>
16:50.03Elive_user21por k estoy con el live en la makina
16:50.26Elive_user21y desde ahi puedo ver el archivo del xorg.conf
16:50.33Elive_user21pero no cambia nada
16:51.25Thyboahh
16:52.38Elive_user21una pregunta no hay manera de editar a mano el xorg
16:52.51Elive_user21es decir ya k estoy aki en frente de el
16:53.41Thyboaja
16:53.44Thybodimelo
16:53.50Thybodejame ver tu xorg.conf
16:53.50Thybo:)
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16:55.38Elive_user21Section "Screen"
16:55.39Elive_user21Identifier"Default Screen"
16:55.39Elive_user21Device"ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M"
16:55.39Elive_user21Monitor"Generic Monitor"
16:55.39Elive_user21DefaultDepth32
16:55.39Elive_user21SubSection "Display"
16:55.41Elive_user21Depth1
16:55.45Elive_user21Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
16:55.47Elive_user21EndSubSection
16:55.49Elive_user21SubSection "Display"
16:55.51Elive_user21Depth4
16:55.53Elive_user21Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
16:55.55Elive_user21EndSubSection
16:55.57Elive_user21SubSection "Display"
16:55.59Elive_user21Depth8
16:56.01Elive_user21Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
16:56.03Elive_user21EndSubSection
16:56.05Elive_user21SubSection "Display"
16:56.07Elive_user21Depth15
16:56.09Elive_user21Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
16:56.11Elive_user21EndSubSection
16:56.15Elive_user21SubSection "Display"
16:56.17Elive_user21Depth16
16:56.19Elive_user21Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
16:56.21Elive_user21EndSubSection
16:56.23Elive_user21SubSection "Display"
16:56.25Elive_user21Depth24
16:56.27Elive_user21Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
16:56.29Elive_user21EndSubSection
16:56.31Elive_user21sorry por los demas
17:00.39Thyboajaaa
17:00.42Thybopero
17:00.45Thybohmm
17:00.48Thyboperame un seeeg
17:00.48Thybo:p
17:00.49Elive_user21k viste
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17:02.53Thyboi think you couuuld do something like
17:03.02Elive_user21como k
17:03.15Thyboeskel xconf.org
17:03.21Thybopero no stoy bien cierto
17:03.28Elive_user21eskel
17:04.27Thybosi pero no se si funcionara
17:05.20Elive_user21bueno tendre k probar
17:05.28Thybosi
17:05.30Thybohmm
17:05.34Thybopero hay otra manera
17:05.41Elive_user21a ver
17:05.44Thybode iniciar lo que te pregunta cuando lo instalas de la resolucion
17:05.58Elive_user21xconfigurator
17:06.21Elive_user21pero ni ide de donde o como ponerlo
17:06.29Elive_user21directamente no se puede
17:06.36Elive_user21le falta un comando adelante
17:06.47Elive_user21<PROTECTED>
17:06.53Elive_user21y sudo no es
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17:07.31Thyboeso es
17:07.35Thybologeate
17:07.37Thybo& luego
17:07.38Thybocat
17:07.42Elive_user21cat
17:07.59Elive_user21cat xconfigurator
17:08.03Elive_user21es asi
17:08.20Elive_user21pucha
17:08.27Elive_user21la makina es de mi hermano
17:08.35Elive_user21<PROTECTED>
17:08.41Elive_user21se va a margar el viejo
17:09.12Elive_user21bueno en pruebas ando
17:09.18Elive_user21regreso al rato
17:09.24Thybocat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
17:09.25Elive_user21gracias
17:09.36Thybojaja
17:09.59Thybologin as a user and use the following commands
17:09.59Thybosu
17:09.59Thybocd
17:09.59ThyboXorg -configure
17:09.59Thybomv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
17:10.00Thybothen use the command startx or reboot
17:10.02Thyboif that did not work I would try
17:10.04Thybodpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
17:10.06Thybothen use the command startx or reboot
17:10.08Thyboif that still did not work I would try
17:10.10Thybodpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
17:10.14Thybo(be prepared to answer a good number of questions)
17:10.16Thybothen use the command startx or reboot
17:10.18Thybolast but not least....edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file maually
17:10.20Thyboprueba eso :)
17:10.40Elive_user21ok
17:10.47Elive_user21menos mal k se ingles
17:12.53Thybo:)
17:12.53Thybosi
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17:49.35[MX]mitsuzeroHI.... anyone has problem with brasero(i cant burn disc)
17:51.25kevin__do you have an error?
17:52.08[MX]mitsuzerono the program is idle and show not work
17:52.33kevin__do you have cdrecord installed?
17:54.17[MX]mitsuzeroi have the elive gem installed, in the "group" named Burn have a Brasero and CDrecord Dialog
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17:54.50kevin__k
17:55.06kevin__do you have tryed to launch brasero as root?
17:55.16[MX]mitsuzerono
17:55.39[MX]mitsuzerohooooo......let me see!
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18:39.35ma_texhello
18:42.14AlexAnteMachinahi ma_tex
18:42.31ma_texAlexAnteMachina, hi
18:44.27AlexAnteMachinawhats up?
18:49.57ma_texwell I hard work but it is ok thanks
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19:25.43ma_texgood nigcht
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20:48.22nesstermount
20:48.33nessterhaha oups wrong window
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21:39.37n0madhi
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21:40.29n0madem can somebody sugest any lenny/testint working repos..?
21:40.43keyran0mad: Do not use the tests repo, its not ready to use on Elive YET, see the topic
21:42.04n0madheh i need couple programs and thats ehem.. keyra u have nice bud..
21:42.30n0madloves keyra
21:43.05n0mad..stupid..bith
21:43.19n0madheh :)
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22:44.28olrraihi again people
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23:07.29Elive_user50:P
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