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02:53.02reaper21what xorg does elive1.7 use?
02:56.10PrinceAMDhm..
02:57.49PrinceAMDX Window System Version 1.3.0
02:57.51PrinceAMDRelease Date: 19 April 2007
02:57.51PrinceAMDX Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
02:57.51PrinceAMDBuild Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12lenny2)
02:57.51PrinceAMDCurrent Operating System: Linux elive.localdomain 2.6.24.4-elive-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 8 13:01:40 CEST 2008 i686
02:58.05keyraPrinceAMD: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
02:58.17PrinceAMDreaper21, ^^
02:58.29PrinceAMDkeyra, i know baby :)
02:58.49LinuxNITPrinceAMD, xserver-xorg
02:59.25PrinceAMDi dont understand?
02:59.44PrinceAMDxserver-xorg is Xorg?
02:59.49LinuxNITyes
03:00.09PrinceAMD:)
03:00.18PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, let me get the new smb-admin
03:00.22LinuxNITso whats the version of that?
03:00.26LinuxNIThmmm
03:00.48PrinceAMDi think smb-browser should be in elive , as default, or maybe a etk version
03:01.22LinuxNITtell thana
03:01.31PrinceAMDpy?
03:01.37LinuxNITyes python
03:01.39PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, i will
03:01.41LinuxNITrename it smb-admin
03:01.58LinuxNITi havent gotten it packaged yet
03:02.30PrinceAMDok
03:02.41LinuxNIToops and the version number is still the same
03:02.42PrinceAMDyeah  bug fixed :)
03:02.54LinuxNITboth should be
03:03.02PrinceAMDchecks to see if his name is in the credits
03:03.14LinuxNITnope
03:03.25PrinceAMDis now heartbroken
03:03.40LinuxNITfeels sorry for PrinceAMD
03:03.54PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, yeah about these 2 applications, there perfect for elive, easy to use
03:04.07LinuxNITthanks
03:04.16LinuxNITthat was my intent
03:04.19LinuxNITeasy to use
03:04.40PrinceAMDyes well u did very good thing :)
03:04.43LinuxNITgsambad and swat are nice... if you want every single function available and want to get confused
03:04.51PrinceAMDwriting this in C with etk might be HELL
03:04.53LinuxNITbut for the average joe...no
03:05.07PrinceAMDtrue
03:05.14PrinceAMDplus normal user dont need that much power
03:05.22LinuxNITyeah
03:05.35LinuxNITprint section needs to be done better... but it does work
03:05.45PrinceAMDoh i still dont understand the WINS thing
03:05.50PrinceAMDis it needed i never used it
03:06.09PrinceAMDi know windows use WINS to get my pc host name but is it needed
03:06.23LinuxNITnot for you most likely
03:06.24keyraPrinceAMD: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems
03:06.44LinuxNITill have to do more reading on that... but i put it in there cause even gnomes optionless gui for samba has it
03:06.46LinuxNIT:)
03:06.47PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, do u use it?
03:06.50LinuxNITno i dont
03:07.46PrinceAMDok
03:07.57PrinceAMDwhat is the OS level about
03:08.39PrinceAMDnice nice nice it shows when i set my password
03:08.44LinuxNITos leve determins who wins the vote to become the master browser
03:08.46PrinceAMDthis is nice for security :)
03:08.56LinuxNIT:)
03:09.38PrinceAMDhere is the other question. what is master browser
03:09.49PrinceAMDsamba with out server is like p2p sharing
03:10.09PrinceAMDor can smb-admin act as a client with in a domain also?????????
03:10.38LinuxNITa master browser holds a list of the computers on the samba network... so that the other computers know how to contact them (ip)
03:11.31LinuxNITim not sure about that last question.. i have not setup a domain server yet
03:11.32PrinceAMDhm... is this needed too?
03:11.41LinuxNITfor cifs no
03:11.43PrinceAMDi've never seen this in windows xp
03:11.49LinuxNITfor smbfs yes
03:12.10LinuxNITwell windows contacts the masterbrowser to get this info
03:12.11PrinceAMDwell ....
03:12.29LinuxNITi have seen errors on my parents networks due to firewalls preventing access to the master browser
03:12.37LinuxNITthe whole network comes to a halt
03:12.42LinuxNITnobody can do anything
03:12.43PrinceAMDok if i have 2 windows xp without setting a master browser, what will happen
03:13.03PrinceAMDouch master browser is bad then :)
03:13.04LinuxNITthe computers on the network vote on who gets to be the master browser
03:13.28LinuxNITif all are windows xp then whoever has been runing longest wins the vote
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03:13.52PrinceAMDok
03:13.56eshepPrinceAMD, didnt we talk about porting smb-browser to etk a long time ago?
03:13.59PrinceAMDthat i didnt know
03:14.08LinuxNITin linux you can set the os level and force linux to win the vote
03:14.09LinuxNIThehe
03:14.33reaper21PrinceAMD: thanks
03:14.34PrinceAMDso then is faster browser works, there is nor use for wins because it does same thing
03:14.46PrinceAMDeshep, yes then  u ran out on me!!!
03:15.01eshepruns for cover
03:15.28LinuxNITfollows
03:15.50PrinceAMDi think i am to write etk/ewl version
03:16.10PrinceAMDi would want it to look similar to windows [setup network thing]
03:16.32LinuxNITwhy look like windows?
03:16.35LinuxNITfuck windows
03:16.45PrinceAMDand add features in thunar to support right click and add to shared
03:17.10PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, well if we want ppl we need to make it EASY for them
03:17.13eshepthe thunar addon would be nice too
03:17.23PrinceAMDsmb-admin is easy yes but. to closed eyes it's damn hard
03:17.32eshepbut does it already support network browsing?
03:17.40PrinceAMDyeps
03:18.01PrinceAMDeshep, i dont think so
03:18.24PrinceAMDcan simply make special folder name "what every the workgroup name"
03:18.26LinuxNITdoes windows even have a central app for setting up shares etc? i though it was all just alt-click on folder
03:18.43PrinceAMDWORKGROUP/deon-pc/C
03:19.11PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, no
03:19.19PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, that is good thing about ur application
03:19.23LinuxNITso how can you make it look like windows?
03:19.31LinuxNIToh smb-browser
03:19.32LinuxNITsorry
03:19.52eshepyou mean just about the rclicking part right
03:20.04PrinceAMDwell not exactly but close, nice window with next next next FINISH!
03:20.30LinuxNITi see
03:20.43PrinceAMDwindows does auto mount... from boot hm....
03:21.01PrinceAMDback away from the windows way
03:21.22PrinceAMDsorry been studying network+ and it's like this thing is about [windows]
03:21.56eshepoh yeah, about the icons
03:22.07reaper21PrinceAMD: Try the CCIE, scary
03:22.35PrinceAMDCCIE? what is that? how do i try it?
03:22.39PrinceAMDeshep, yea u got nicer icons?
03:22.52PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, but by all means ur app should be in elive :)
03:22.59PrinceAMDi wont write smb app
03:23.05eshephave you seen the ones eAR has?
03:23.15LinuxNITlol
03:23.16PrinceAMDthere is perfect one already by u hehe
03:23.18eshepi was thinking of something along those lines
03:23.40PrinceAMDeAR?
03:23.57eshepearos
03:23.59reaper21PrinceAMD: scroll down a bit here :http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/learning_career_certifications_and_learning_paths_home.html
03:24.16eshepacoustic reality
03:24.16reaper21PrinceAMD: It is higher than CCNA and CCNP, alot higher
03:24.30eshepthey sell the sorta settop boxes
03:24.32PrinceAMDeshep, link please:_
03:24.57PrinceAMDreaper21, WTF!!!
03:25.31eshephttp://www.earos.dk/
03:26.31reaper21PrinceAMD: I have CCNA, CCNP and CCIE Security, Routing and Switching is next
03:26.54PrinceAMDreaper21, shit!!!
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03:27.06PrinceAMDreaper21, i have 2 friends doing CCNA right now
03:27.23PrinceAMDhe came over to drink and end up talking about ipv6 :(
03:27.50PrinceAMDif i want to write CCNA i have to do to Trinidad :(
03:28.14reaper21PrinceAMD: that sux, that is the downside
03:28.56PrinceAMDeshep, eAR!!!! nice what is it based on gnome, kde, xfce?
03:29.12PrinceAMDreaper21, yeah but it's worth it
03:29.20PrinceAMDCCNA pays good :)
03:33.09PrinceAMDeshep, !
03:35.13eshepsorry
03:35.16eshepim here
03:35.24eshepgnome
03:36.00eshephopes to do LPI1 this year
03:37.30PrinceAMDnice :)
03:37.48PrinceAMDeshep, what certifications do you have already?
03:37.56PrinceAMDcertificates*
03:39.28reaper21PrinceAMD: essentially I fly all over using Linux (Elive/Backtrack) hack networks of corporations and tell them whats wrong and buy HP's secure products ;)
03:39.50eshepNet+, A+, Sec+, Sun Desktop Maint, StorEdge Maint and a few other little bs ones
03:40.31PrinceAMDreaper21, nice :) why backtrack though?
03:40.46PrinceAMDeshep, nice
03:41.02reaper21PrinceAMD: more for familiarity really, Slowly using Elive mostly
03:41.18reaper21eshep: I am working on my Sun certifications
03:41.33PrinceAMD:(
03:41.34eshepreaper21, sw or hw?
03:41.46PrinceAMDu know u can install wireshark
03:42.10reaper21eshep: Hardware first, then sw
03:42.43eshepim comliling e on a sparc right now...
03:42.59PrinceAMDso elive got a set of network junkies nice :)
03:43.00reaper21PrinceAMD: I have nessus, wireshark, bluetooth hacking tools, wireshark, Nmap etc under elive, just backtrack has a few tools I can't locate
03:43.06reaper21eshep: Nice
03:43.27eshepits dependency hell, but its fun
03:43.30PrinceAMDreaper21, hm...
03:43.32eshepand thats the key
03:43.52PrinceAMDhaha good luck with that eshep
03:44.08eshepmost of it has gone well so far
03:45.12PrinceAMDhold a sec u, i know comprehending something, u have a SPARC computer?
03:45.44reaper21PrinceAMD: I have a Sunfire server at home
03:45.51PrinceAMDeshep, show me ur cpu stuffy, cat /proc/cpuinfo
03:45.59PrinceAMDAR
03:46.11PrinceAMDruns to google
03:46.32eshepits crap but:
03:46.34eshepcpu             : TI UltraSparc II  (BlackBird)
03:46.35eshepfpu             : UltraSparc II integrated FPU
03:46.35eshepprom            : OBP 3.23.1 1999/07/16 12:08
03:46.35esheptype            : sun4u
03:46.35eshepncpus probed    : 2
03:46.37eshepncpus active    : 2
03:46.39eshepD$ parity tl1   : 0
03:46.41eshepI$ parity tl1   : 0
03:46.43eshepCpu0Bogo        : 900.55
03:46.45eshepCpu0ClkTck      : 000000001ad2fff7
03:46.47eshepCpu2Bogo        : 900.11
03:46.49eshepCpu2ClkTck      : 000000001ad2fff7
03:46.51eshepMMU Type        : Spitfire
03:46.58eshepoops, thana, dont kill me for the flood
03:47.06eshepi fogot the /msg
03:47.49PrinceAMDeshep, hehe he is not here :D
03:48.22eshepyeah, but its logged
03:48.39eshepoh well
03:48.42PrinceAMD900mhz?
03:48.55eshepkeyra, dont tell on me, ok
03:49.24eshepPrinceAMD, yeah, it old stuff, ultra60
03:50.02PrinceAMDok
03:50.11PrinceAMDwell at least the baby still works
03:50.25PrinceAMDi like old hardware
03:50.41PrinceAMDreminds u how things were n how they are right now
03:52.06eshepit runs gnome a little slow
03:54.22PrinceAMDok
04:00.36reaper21PrinceAMD: it is very similar to how the PowerPC works, I have a dual 900 MHz sunblade that I use for compiling
04:01.46eshepit runs pretty good, but these creator3d cards just arent up to par anymore
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04:44.58roxvilleis back (gone 14:04:58)
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04:54.31Wizardyawns
05:02.31roxvilleis away: Will You Be My Compiz?
05:22.59Begasusmorning
05:24.03Wizardhello Begasus
05:24.18Begasushi Wizard
05:24.21Begasusat work? ;)
05:25.28Wizardyes
05:25.36Wizardbut a little hangovered today
05:25.39Wizard:S
05:31.56Begasushehe
05:32.47Wizardlol
05:33.32Wizardhow is it possible, that the same file, mounted from the same nfs server on two different machines, has different modification dates and different content?
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05:34.32Wizardam i drunk or what?!
05:47.47Begasusyou tell us! ;)
05:49.06Wizardi'm not :S
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10:39.24Wizardboo!
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11:49.56wasyny1nicenice.. i just broke my debian stable
11:49.57wasyny1:S
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11:50.15wasyny1how do i force remove package that is making the apt-get go boom
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11:51.45kevin__apt-get remove -f <package>
11:52.26wasyny1E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
11:52.26wasyny1E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-i386_Packages
11:53.42wasyny1doesnt allow me to uninstall
11:53.49wasyny1claims it needs to reinstall
11:53.56wasyny1ignore that sid stuff
11:54.36kevin__do you have tryed to make an update of apt's db?
11:54.49kevin__it seem to have a problem with that
11:55.02wasyny1yeah
11:55.16wasyny1it can update but that package just keeps borking
11:55.46wasyny1can i make it forget
11:57.26mathmanptried using dpkg --force-remove ?
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12:07.12wasyny1hmm dpkg -r --force-all did the job
12:07.13wasyny1:D
12:07.32mathmanp:)
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14:03.44AlexAnteMachinahi folks!
14:03.56AlexAnteMachinais somebody awake in here?
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14:18.45DammitJimhey Alex
14:19.14Elive_user36hey DammitJim !
14:19.18Elive_user36how are you?
14:19.23DammitJimwhat's going on? I'm doing well
14:19.29DammitJimjust trying to get my mind back in track ya know?
14:19.31DammitJimyou?
14:20.18Elive_user36no, i do not know what a mind needs tracks for.
14:24.06DammitJimlol
14:24.09DammitJim'cause I'm off track
14:24.10DammitJimlol
14:24.31Elive_user36you are what?
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14:57.14Elive_user36keyra, eltrans
14:57.29keyraElive_user36: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
15:00.24Elive_user36keyra, poedit
15:00.38keyraElive_user36: if you want to use eltrans (in gem), install first poedit and do this configuration: File -> preferences -> disable the 'compile .mo files' option.  And also go to the View tab and unselect both options about 'show comments'
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15:01.29DammitJim:)
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15:05.47Elive_user36keyra, eltrans
15:06.01keyraElive_user36: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
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16:43.13Thybois away: I will be back... Oh yes I will be back!!!!
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18:41.15AlexAnteMachinahey ihr Schnürpse!
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19:15.17AlexAnteMachinaroxville, ?
19:15.20AlexAnteMachinaWizard, ?
19:15.27AlexAnteMachinaDammitJim, ?
19:15.34DammitJimyes
19:15.40AlexAnteMachinaha!
19:15.43AlexAnteMachinagotcha!
19:17.33AlexAnteMachinahey, what's up?
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19:20.31AlexAnteMachinaDammitJim, dammit!
19:20.44AlexAnteMachinaI cant install eltrans!
19:20.51AlexAnteMachinaDAMMIT!
19:20.59keyraAlexAnteMachina: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
19:21.04DammitJimoh, I never have
19:21.08DammitJimsorry
19:21.28AlexAnteMachinathere's no excuse.
19:21.41AlexAnteMachinayou're damned!
19:22.44DammitJimthat's why my name is dammit jim
19:22.45DammitJimlol
19:23.46AlexAnteMachinaDude, do you know what this means: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: esu"
19:24.35AlexAnteMachina??
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19:39.03DammitJimno clue
19:39.11DammitJimare you using apt-get?
19:40.01AlexAnteMachinano, because I couldnt add it to the repositories.
19:40.32wasynytgood evening people
19:40.37AlexAnteMachinahi wasynyt
19:40.46AlexAnteMachinamaybe you'll know what's wrong.
19:41.02AlexAnteMachinaI cant install eltrans.
19:41.16keyraAlexAnteMachina: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
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19:42.08AlexAnteMachinaIt's just telling me: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: esu"
19:42.30AlexAnteMachinaalready googled it... nothing useful.
19:43.20DammitJimhhmmmm
19:43.37AlexAnteMachinaGoogle seems to administrate world's largest compost-heap of information.
19:44.48wasynytheh
19:44.51wasynytso true
19:47.25AlexAnteMachinaso you got any idea what could cause this dependency-problem?
19:49.01wasynythmm
19:49.11wasynytlet me see.. when i get my own update done
19:49.17AlexAnteMachinalol
19:49.24AlexAnteMachinayou're a updatefreak.
19:50.06wasynyttrue
19:51.26AlexAnteMachinagot Truth within
19:53.19wasynytwhat was your problem
19:55.14AlexAnteMachinatrying to install eltrans.
19:55.28keyraAlexAnteMachina: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
19:56.05AlexAnteMachinatried to install it via package installer
19:56.07wasynythmm what is stoping it from doing it
19:56.17AlexAnteMachinaGdebi it is called, i think.
19:56.25AlexAnteMachina"Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: esu"
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20:00.02AlexAnteMachinahow to force it?
20:00.27AlexAnteMachinashould I show my new axe to the CPU?
20:00.36wasynytyeah
20:00.37wasynyt:D
20:00.56AlexAnteMachinawell, it's not impressed, yet.
20:02.28wasynytdpkg -i --force-depands=eltrans eltrans
20:02.40wasynytdpkg -i --force-depends=eltrans eltrans
20:02.42keyrawasynyt: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
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20:07.07AlexAnteMachinalooks like somethings wrong with this "depends=eltrans" option
20:07.37AlexAnteMachinadpkg: unknown force/refuse-Option »depends=eltrans«
20:08.19wasynythmm
20:08.27wasynytthen i have it wrong
20:08.29wasynytlet me se
20:08.35wasynyt*see
20:09.14wasynythmm
20:09.41wasynytdpkg -i --ignore-depends=eltrans eltrans
20:09.55keyrawasynyt: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
20:12.30wasynytif still no go
20:12.34wasynytman dpkg
20:12.40wasynytthat is what i am looking at
20:12.41AlexAnteMachina??
20:12.46AlexAnteMachinawhat?
20:13.56wasynytwhere i am looking those comands
20:14.02wasynytif that was wrong too
20:14.26AlexAnteMachinaoh, the MANual!
20:15.35wasynytyup
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20:21.10AlexAnteMachinaezadla werd's Dooch!
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20:57.40DammitJimgood day all
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21:11.15wasynytheads to bed
21:11.20wasynytgood night people
21:15.02decangood afternoon wasynyt
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22:58.03Elive_user20quien habla español
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22:59.26Elive_user65yo
23:01.52decanso do I
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