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| 01:12.22 | Elive_user28 | hello |
| 01:12.45 | Elive_user28 | got some questions about elive |
| 01:12.50 | elmo40 | hi |
| 01:12.56 | elmo40 | what version? |
| 01:13.06 | Elive_user28 | e17 |
| 01:13.30 | elmo40 | ok, e17 is Enlightenment. |
| 01:13.34 | elmo40 | elive is a distro |
| 01:13.40 | Elive_user28 | i know |
| 01:14.29 | elmo40 | are you using xchat? |
| 01:14.44 | Elive_user28 | yeah |
| 01:14.49 | elmo40 | can you type this: /exec -o cat /etc/version |
| 01:15.01 | elmo40 | or i think it is elive-version, or something like that :P |
| 01:15.20 | Elive_user28 | ok hang on |
| 01:16.10 | elmo40 | hanging. |
| 01:16.17 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 01:16.33 | PrinceAMD | elmo40, what r u doing to this user? |
| 01:16.52 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user28, whatt is the question? |
| 01:17.25 | Elive_user28 | well i can only get elive to run on a virutal box |
| 01:17.42 | elmo40 | i suppose i am trying to find a reference point. if it is an e17 question and he is using dev then there are for-sure reasons. |
| 01:18.40 | Elive_user28 | i have a different linux distro on my laptop, so im using virtual box to run the live cd of elive |
| 01:18.57 | Elive_user28 | when i try to run it normanly it wont boot |
| 01:20.38 | elmo40 | where does it stop booting. does Grub even load? |
| 01:21.27 | Elive_user28 | yeah it gets past all that when i modify the boot line, it stops at decting hardware |
| 01:23.01 | elmo40 | and you have tried just pressing Enter? no modifications? |
| 01:23.28 | Elive_user28 | yeah i get a BIOS bug something with ACPI support |
| 01:23.34 | elmo40 | does it hang on the hard drive search? |
| 01:23.54 | elmo40 | oh, so you use 'noacpi' line? |
| 01:23.56 | Elive_user28 | i think its the keboard and mouse pad |
| 01:24.09 | elmo40 | i have wifi mouse/kb, works fine for me. |
| 01:24.16 | Elive_user28 | yeah that line gets me pretty far |
| 01:24.22 | Elive_user28 | hmmm |
| 01:24.24 | keyra | elmo40: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 01:24.47 | Elive_user28 | no wifi is good |
| 01:25.04 | Elive_user28 | im useing elive in a VBox right now |
| 01:25.15 | Elive_user28 | on my wifi connection |
| 01:26.11 | Elive_user28 | is there a bootline that helps get past hardware issues? |
| 01:27.16 | elmo40 | noapc? |
| 01:27.31 | Elive_user28 | is that like noacpi? |
| 01:27.51 | elmo40 | there are a few options in the Elive's Grub screen. first one is regular, then it goes older hardware. |
| 01:27.55 | Elive_user28 | *noapci |
| 01:28.05 | Elive_user28 | yeah i tried all them |
| 01:28.06 | elmo40 | try the second or third options in the Grub list during boot. |
| 01:28.10 | elmo40 | oh |
| 01:28.14 | elmo40 | what system? |
| 01:29.13 | Elive_user28 | its and averatec 6200 |
| 01:29.20 | Elive_user28 | an* |
| 01:31.56 | Elive_user28 | the processer is an AMD |
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| 02:58.03 | Ramraid | does elive use isolinux or grub as the installer? |
| 03:06.59 | elmo40 | Ramraid: custom installer. sortof ;) |
| 03:08.07 | elmo40 | but Grub is not an installer. It is a boot loader |
| 03:10.15 | Ramraid | some distros use grub as installer yoper does and so does dreamlinux my system cant install those distros |
| 03:10.56 | Ramraid | but if elive is a custom installer it may be worth a try |
| 03:11.13 | elmo40 | use GEM. |
| 03:11.23 | elmo40 | can't install dev releases. (not easily, anyways) |
| 03:12.13 | Ramraid | yea i just saw something about Gem is it a derivative of elive? |
| 03:12.25 | elmo40 | it is version 1.0 |
| 03:12.34 | elmo40 | the first full stable release |
| 03:12.51 | Ramraid | thanks i will go have a look |
| 03:12.52 | elmo40 | well, i guess if you can find 1.0.2, that has a few bug fixes ;) |
| 03:13.21 | elmo40 | but anything after that is not all that stable, unless you know what you are messing with |
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| 03:24.17 | Ramraid | ah i cant use gem its got 2.6.18 kernel |
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| 04:38.20 | AlexAnteMachina | good morning everybody! |
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| 11:30.11 | ruud | HMMM, NO Thana, laterz!!! |
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| 11:57.39 | Joseph | Hello all. |
| 11:57.53 | LinuxNIT | hello Joseph |
| 11:57.54 | Joseph | I was wondering if there was any way for me to start packaging for Elive. |
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| 11:58.28 | Joseph | I was recently offered a job by Linspire, Inc. to package for CNR.com, but I'm thinking about packaging for others. |
| 11:58.42 | LinuxNIT | you would need to talk to Thanatermesis about that |
| 11:58.49 | Joseph | I emailed him. :) |
| 11:58.59 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 11:59.07 | roxville | Joseph, trust me, it's better to try to catch him here |
| 11:59.22 | roxville | he was around earlier, i think he went out to lunch or something |
| 11:59.30 | Joseph | I emailed him before, he replied in a day (probably overnight.. France --> America) |
| 11:59.43 | Joseph | He IS in france right? I thought he was french. |
| 11:59.56 | roxville | he is spanish, actually |
| 12:00.01 | LinuxNIT | europe ;) |
| 12:00.08 | Joseph | Interesting. |
| 12:00.09 | LinuxNIT | that pretty much covers where ever he is at the moment |
| 12:00.12 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 12:00.15 | Joseph | I always thought he was French. |
| 12:00.41 | roxville | right now, he is/was in belgium for a bit (where the french fries were invented) but will return to spain shortly |
| 12:01.00 | Joseph | This sub bus driver I had was named Oscar. That's a true spanish name (lol) |
| 12:01.09 | Joseph | BTW, I'm only 15. |
| 12:01.10 | roxville | hehe |
| 12:01.32 | LinuxNIT | you dont sound like most of the 15 year olds that join ;) |
| 12:01.42 | Joseph | *cough* Are you sure? *cough* |
| 12:01.55 | roxville | LinuxNIT, ... he doesn't "sound" at all... |
| 12:02.12 | LinuxNIT | sure he does |
| 12:02.19 | LinuxNIT | Joseph, you can talk cant you? |
| 12:02.23 | roxville | lol |
| 12:02.25 | Joseph | About what? |
| 12:02.27 | LinuxNIT | i mean.. youre not a mute are you? |
| 12:02.37 | Joseph | I dunno, maybe IRL. |
| 12:02.37 | LinuxNIT | is giving roxville a hard time |
| 12:03.00 | Joseph | I'm antisocial in real life, my form of "hi" is a slight wave. |
| 12:03.27 | roxville | sounds like the rest of us :D |
| 12:03.32 | Joseph | ;D |
| 12:03.50 | Joseph | Anyway, I used to come here a bit, but then I got my Mac. |
| 12:04.47 | Joseph | Can't wait for the new Elive btw. Testing = ftw. |
| 12:05.49 | Joseph | (I mean Debian Testing) |
| 12:06.03 | keyra | Joseph: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 12:06.13 | Joseph | Isn't keyra a bot? |
| 12:06.28 | keyra | Joseph: bot |
| 12:06.32 | Joseph | I'd have to agree, either way, because Ubuntu isn't that great. |
| 12:07.17 | Joseph | I want to visit Europe. =| |
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| 12:07.34 | LinuxNIT | yes keyra is one of those bot things |
| 12:07.40 | jf_simon | hi |
| 12:07.41 | LinuxNIT | and welcome back Joseph |
| 12:07.44 | LinuxNIT | hi jf_simon |
| 12:07.48 | keyra | LinuxNIT: you think so ? |
| 12:07.54 | Joseph | Welcome back? I was never gone. o_O |
| 12:08.11 | LinuxNIT | <Joseph> Anyway, I used to come here a bit, but then I got my Mac. |
| 12:08.15 | roxville | Joseph, Europe is... made out of many countries...with many different cultures... a bit different that the u.s.... though we have different cultures too |
| 12:09.16 | Joseph | Oh, I see what you mean. :) |
| 12:09.50 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 12:09.57 | Joseph | BB. |
| 12:10.01 | Joseph | *BBL. |
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| 12:19.32 | Elive_user2 | Sorry, back. |
| 12:20.04 | JThomas | This is Joseph, btw. |
| 12:20.14 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 12:20.56 | JThomas | Just a quick question: why is there not a shortcut for Synaptic in the menu? |
| 12:21.07 | JThomas | I've always wondered that. |
| 12:22.12 | LinuxNIT | there is on the development version |
| 12:22.24 | JThomas | Not on Gem. |
| 12:22.26 | LinuxNIT | im not sure on the stable... |
| 12:22.30 | LinuxNIT | it is in elpanel though |
| 12:22.36 | JThomas | Oh, that makes sense, then. |
| 12:22.50 | JThomas | I find elpanel hard to use, looks nice though. |
| 12:24.53 | elmo40 | ya, it isnt all that intuitive. |
| 12:25.00 | elmo40 | have to guess where things may be. |
| 12:25.21 | elmo40 | mornin' all. |
| 12:25.27 | LinuxNIT | morning |
| 12:25.29 | elmo40 | roxville: how r the gigs? |
| 12:25.42 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT: working hard? ;) |
| 12:26.07 | LinuxNIT | hardly working.... atn |
| 12:26.10 | LinuxNIT | atm |
| 12:26.49 | roxville | elmo40, not bad... picking up drastically this week |
| 12:27.06 | roxville | and i think that will continue through november |
| 12:34.49 | LinuxNIT | well elmo40 i have been working on some changes to smb-browser... |
| 12:35.17 | LinuxNIT | and i just wrote my last paper for college yesterday.... so i have been working hard.. just not right now :) |
| 12:39.37 | elmo40 | i hear ya |
| 12:39.51 | elmo40 | many changes to the browser, LinuxNIT ? |
| 12:40.09 | LinuxNIT | mostly clean up and makeing things more smooth |
| 12:40.39 | LinuxNIT | i threaded the scan for workgroups so the program dosnet appear to freeze like it use to |
| 12:40.44 | elmo40 | i am designing a complete server setup for a company. i was thinking of using freeNAS for their RAID setup, but cant seem to get it working the way i want (damn BSD) ;) |
| 12:41.06 | LinuxNIT | no longer have to choose ip or name... it chooses for you |
| 12:41.17 | LinuxNIT | when searcing for a specific computer |
| 12:41.21 | elmo40 | nice |
| 12:41.23 | LinuxNIT | some little things :) |
| 12:42.18 | elmo40 | this setup will also include a large APC made UPS setup. |
| 12:42.47 | LinuxNIT | sounds like fun |
| 12:44.23 | elmo40 | they need everything... active directory(yes, windoze... cant change everyone!), dns, mail server(possibly Exchange, though i may be able to convince other wise), RAID... only 20 terminals, so i was thinking of making the entire system dumby nodes |
| 12:44.43 | elmo40 | it is fun |
| 12:44.46 | elmo40 | and will cost them |
| 12:45.07 | elmo40 | they also want an 'I want it to do everything' kind of website. Online purchasing and shit like that. |
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| 12:46.35 | JThomas | Hello all. |
| 12:46.54 | elmo40 | JThomas: hi |
| 12:46.59 | JThomas | Do you think the Macbook version would run better on my Mac mini? |
| 12:47.03 | LinuxNIT | hello. |
| 12:47.12 | JThomas | GRUB won't even finish loading on Elive Gem on my Mac mini. |
| 12:47.33 | LinuxNIT | is the mini an intel cpu? |
| 12:47.38 | JThomas | Core 2 Duo. |
| 12:48.00 | JThomas | This isn't an Elive-only problem. |
| 12:48.10 | JThomas | It happens on SLED 10 SP1 |
| 12:48.18 | JThomas | Linspire 5.1/Freespire 1.0 |
| 12:48.25 | JThomas | Basically anything with an older kernel |
| 12:48.42 | LinuxNIT | i assume youre using the macbook version of elive right? |
| 12:48.46 | JThomas | No. |
| 12:48.55 | JThomas | Regular. |
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| 12:49.22 | LinuxNIT | macbook version might help |
| 12:49.36 | LinuxNIT | elmo40, sounds like youve got quite the project |
| 12:49.39 | JThomas | I think it's the framebuffer. |
| 12:49.50 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT: well, making a bid on it. dont have it yet. |
| 12:50.02 | elmo40 | JThomas: try the Mac version. |
| 12:50.06 | elmo40 | should be online. |
| 12:50.19 | JThomas | elmo40, 1) that's not optimized for my stuff |
| 12:50.23 | DammitJim | morning |
| 12:50.32 | JThomas | 2) I think it won't work |
| 12:50.36 | JThomas | What kernel does the Macbook use? |
| 12:50.53 | JThomas | I mean, the Macbook version of Elive |
| 12:51.23 | LinuxNIT | <JThomas> elmo40, 1) that's not optimized for my stuff << why is it not optimized for your stuff? |
| 12:51.27 | LinuxNIT | you have a macbook |
| 12:51.28 | elmo40 | DammitJim: mornin. |
| 12:51.33 | JThomas | I have a Mac mini. o_O |
| 12:51.36 | JThomas | Two separate products. |
| 12:51.38 | DammitJim | how goes it, everybody? |
| 12:51.42 | JThomas | hiu. |
| 12:51.51 | elmo40 | it is a MAC version, not Macbook version. |
| 12:51.58 | JThomas | then why does it say.. |
| 12:52.02 | JThomas | that o_o |
| 12:52.11 | LinuxNIT | ok well could be... i dunno |
| 12:52.13 | LinuxNIT | havent used it |
| 12:52.15 | JThomas | Burn a CD, boot your MacBook with it and enjoy your Elive system in the better dedicated configurations made, we are near of the Stable version, that means if you see any BUG, report it inmediately to the forum Thanks! |
| 12:52.22 | elmo40 | just try it. so you have diff hardware, it is technically a PC anyways! |
| 12:52.37 | JThomas | Technically, it's not. =P |
| 12:52.38 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 12:52.42 | LinuxNIT | i figured it would be closer since both are mac... but since im not a mac user and have never used it... i dunno |
| 12:52.55 | JThomas | Not many people use Macs. -=D |
| 12:52.56 | elmo40 | DammitJim: thingz r fine. |
| 12:53.09 | elmo40 | people still use macs? |
| 12:53.18 | LinuxNIT | morning DammitJim |
| 12:54.02 | DammitJim | it goes ok... just trying to get excited about this project |
| 12:54.03 | Joseph | lol |
| 12:54.05 | DammitJim | hi joseph |
| 12:54.08 | DammitJim | Joseph Thomas |
| 12:54.09 | DammitJim | lol |
| 12:54.11 | Joseph | what's up BOSLICK |
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| 12:54.49 | Elive_user15 | *cough* |
| 12:54.58 | JThomas | anyway. lol |
| 12:56.04 | elmo40 | JThomas: you in MAC yet? |
| 12:56.05 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 13:22.21 | elmo40 | anyone try marchlinux? http://marchlinux.wikidot.com/ |
| 13:24.12 | DammitJim | no |
| 13:24.22 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.36 | elmo40 | who uses arch anyways? |
| 13:24.36 | elmo40 | ;) |
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| 13:42.21 | LinuxNIT | thoden |
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| 14:10.40 | n0mad | can i ask.. where are iptables rules stored ? mmm wish somenone bring the light ? |
| 14:14.08 | DammitJim | good question |
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| 14:49.49 | DammitJim | ok, so where are the good themes? |
| 14:51.57 | elmo40 | did n0mad mean the hosts.allow/deny files? |
| 14:52.04 | elmo40 | DammitJim: for GEM ? |
| 14:52.27 | elmo40 | well, Elive uses a diff version of E17. and new ones dont work with old ones. |
| 14:53.09 | DammitJim | for any release |
| 14:53.11 | DammitJim | for e17 |
| 14:53.23 | DammitJim | oh... well... latest unstable |
| 14:53.48 | elmo40 | find the e17 version and go to get-e.org there should be some themes/links there |
| 14:53.53 | elmo40 | apt: get-e |
| 14:54.00 | elmo40 | apt: get e17 |
| 14:54.00 | apt | ACTION fetches e17 |
| 14:54.03 | elmo40 | apt: e17 |
| 14:54.04 | apt | [e17] IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16 |
| 14:54.17 | elmo40 | blah |
| 14:54.21 | mathmanp | http.//get-e.org |
| 14:54.34 | mathmanp | camou is the best ! |
| 14:55.12 | DammitJim | camou? |
| 14:55.44 | mathmanp | hehe, a theme roxville and me made. |
| 14:56.21 | DammitJim | oh gosh |
| 14:56.22 | DammitJim | let's see |
| 14:56.23 | DammitJim | where is it? |
| 14:57.06 | mathmanp | in the e17 section of http://get-e.org |
| 14:57.44 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 14:57.45 | DammitJim | ok |
| 14:58.03 | DammitJim | OMG |
| 14:58.07 | DammitJim | what is wrong with you guys???? |
| 14:58.08 | DammitJim | LMAO |
| 14:58.50 | roxville | wrong? what is RIGHT? |
| 14:58.55 | roxville | EVERYTHING! |
| 14:59.07 | LinuxNIT | keeps silence |
| 14:59.14 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 14:59.22 | roxville | DammitJim, i wanted to see how good we could make a patterned border theme look |
| 14:59.35 | roxville | and... we did pretty good imo :) |
| 15:00.02 | mathmanp | DammitJim, don't kid with us rednecks ;-{ |
| 15:00.25 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:00.48 | roxville | hmmm... maybe we should make a SKOAL theme... |
| 15:04.29 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 15:04.39 | DammitJim | why are there so many that have huge toolbars |
| 15:04.46 | DammitJim | well, you did it! |
| 15:05.34 | roxville | because we have huge tools |
| 15:06.39 | mathmanp | fileman toolbar ? because we all cloned devilhorns original theme code. shelf? resize it ! |
| 15:06.53 | keyra | mathmanp: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
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| 15:07.14 | DammitJim | big tools, huh? |
| 15:07.17 | DammitJim | that's just nasty |
| 15:07.44 | Elive_user85 | have you tried new elive 1.7.2 ? |
| 15:07.49 | DammitJim | yes |
| 15:07.50 | DammitJim | it's great! |
| 15:08.09 | Elive_user85 | can i install it on HD |
| 15:08.56 | DammitJim | if you are brave, you could |
| 15:09.00 | Elive_user85 | i couldnt do it with the version before 1.7.2 |
| 15:09.29 | DammitJim | it's still not "available" |
| 15:09.35 | DammitJim | it's at your own risk you can get it |
| 15:09.38 | DammitJim | and use it |
| 15:09.42 | Elive_user85 | i dont think you need extra courage to install elive |
| 15:09.58 | DammitJim | well well! Here we have a brave warrior |
| 15:10.01 | DammitJim | are you ready for it? |
| 15:10.01 | mathmanp | the new istaller is experimental |
| 15:10.08 | DammitJim | alpha |
| 15:10.10 | DammitJim | at best |
| 15:10.14 | Elive_user85 | well |
| 15:10.16 | jf_simon | i tried it today |
| 15:10.25 | Elive_user85 | who cares if its experimental if its works |
| 15:10.32 | DammitJim | how'd it go, jf_simon |
| 15:10.36 | DammitJim | lol |
| 15:10.39 | jf_simon | all well |
| 15:10.43 | DammitJim | sweet |
| 15:10.43 | mathmanp | apt give jf_simon a beer |
| 15:10.44 | apt | ACTION hands jf_simon a cold beer |
| 15:10.53 | jf_simon | thanks |
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| 15:17.08 | jf_simon | i installed the net module with apt-get, an now when open the configuration of it, i get the exalt dialog |
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| 15:20.51 | DammitJim | yes |
| 15:20.52 | DammitJim | that's it |
| 15:32.20 | DammitJim | talking about themes.... |
| 15:32.39 | DammitJim | guys, why are all the themes not transparent for the ibar? |
| 15:33.18 | mathmanp | DammitJim, you can set the shelf to transparent in the advanced shelf configuration. |
| 15:33.27 | DammitJim | it doesn't take it |
| 15:33.31 | DammitJim | it still has a white background |
| 15:33.46 | keyra | DammitJim: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 15:35.00 | DammitJim | tried the chrome and clearlooks theme |
| 15:35.03 | DammitJim | but no luck |
| 15:35.54 | wasynyt | i think that the shelf canb eset transparent but the ibar cannot |
| 15:36.04 | wasynyt | *can be set |
| 15:36.05 | DammitJim | yeah |
| 15:36.06 | DammitJim | that's crap |
| 15:36.21 | wasynyt | ;/ |
| 15:36.26 | DammitJim | ugh |
| 15:36.32 | mathmanp | DammitJim, use plain not inset on the ibar |
| 15:36.39 | DammitJim | plain? |
| 15:36.41 | DammitJim | let me check |
| 15:36.49 | mathmanp | right click on it |
| 15:37.24 | DammitJim | mathmanp, is the man |
| 15:37.25 | DammitJim | ;) |
| 15:38.05 | DammitJim | weird how it did it for only certain modules |
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| 16:27.20 | elmo40 | i see that Canada just made it with 5-4 win last night :) |
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| 16:38.36 | roxville | elmo40, DammitJim http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/Themes/Grenadine.edj |
| 16:38.43 | roxville | test and tell me what you think |
| 16:38.48 | DammitJim | oh gosh |
| 16:38.51 | roxville | it's a theme |
| 16:38.52 | DammitJim | I'll let you know |
| 16:38.58 | DammitJim | is watching american gangster |
| 16:40.08 | roxville | ahhh good movie |
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| 16:41.42 | DammitJim | is it? |
| 16:41.45 | DammitJim | lots of blood |
| 16:45.05 | elmo40 | DammitJim: have you been to http://www.e17-stuff.org/ ? |
| 16:46.19 | DammitJim | yes |
| 16:46.35 | DammitJim | why? |
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| 16:48.37 | elmo40 | just wondering. |
| 16:48.48 | elmo40 | u were lokoing for themes, right? |
| 16:49.11 | DammitJim | oh no |
| 16:50.30 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.41 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 16:50.44 | elmo40 | i see all! |
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| 17:10.17 | Wizard | good evening |
| 17:11.11 | DammitJim | grenadine is good, roxville |
| 17:11.21 | DammitJim | I just wish the color wasn't red... I need a gold color |
| 17:11.22 | DammitJim | lol |
| 17:12.03 | DammitJim | I like how it's nice and compact, though |
| 17:17.42 | roxville | i appreciate your input :) |
| 17:18.02 | roxville | your gripe though... doesn't make sense |
| 17:18.09 | DammitJim | lol |
| 17:18.22 | DammitJim | why does my battery show 6852:00 for 100%? |
| 17:18.22 | DammitJim | lol |
| 17:18.28 | roxville | it's like buying a volvo and complain that it is not a rolls royce |
| 17:18.36 | DammitJim | no |
| 17:18.48 | DammitJim | lol... it's like buying a blue volvo, but complaining it's not red |
| 17:19.22 | roxville | anyway... i made this red because i made the clock for one of princeamd's themes... but it didn't fit as well as i hoped |
| 17:19.40 | roxville | but i liked the clock so much, that i ended up making the theme around it |
| 17:19.53 | roxville | yes, you are right |
| 17:20.28 | DammitJim | LOL... but I like it |
| 17:20.30 | DammitJim | don't get me wrong |
| 17:20.35 | DammitJim | I love the battery |
| 17:21.16 | Wizard | :] |
| 17:21.33 | Wizard | DammitJim: are you complaing about roxville's theme? |
| 17:21.35 | elmo40 | Wizard: hey |
| 17:21.40 | Wizard | he elmo40 |
| 17:22.16 | elmo40 | keeping busy? |
| 17:22.36 | Wizard | me? yes |
| 17:22.40 | DammitJim | no, not complaining |
| 17:22.43 | DammitJim | just giving him input |
| 17:22.54 | elmo40 | i need some advice. a company is looking to install an in-house mail server, file storage and server based apps.(stuff like accounting software, scheduling) |
| 17:22.59 | elmo40 | currently <10 people |
| 17:23.07 | elmo40 | any ideas on what type of mail server i should use? |
| 17:23.38 | elmo40 | if this was windoze based, i would recommend Exchange. But they dont want the DAILY fees associated with it ;) |
| 17:23.39 | Wizard | i recommend postfix |
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| 17:24.40 | elmo40 | i see |
| 17:25.21 | elmo40 | what about the scheduling/calendar? |
| 17:25.35 | elmo40 | they are fairly remote, so they use satellite internet. |
| 17:25.50 | elmo40 | not on all the time... will become a pain, actually. |
| 17:26.39 | elmo40 | but they want to have their lead hands use a PDA and time-in/time-out when they begin/end a job. |
| 17:26.49 | elmo40 | to keep track of things ;) |
| 17:27.08 | elmo40 | and having them email someone is not an option. it must be automatic. |
| 17:28.13 | elmo40 | i was thinking of having an outside web server which receives daily scheduling. then the lead hands can login and check the schedule, punch in their time-in/out and at the end of the day/week it will generate a report |
| 17:28.18 | elmo40 | good idea? |
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| 17:30.43 | Wizard | so it has be something like worktime tracker, do i understand it right? |
| 17:30.56 | elmo40 | yes |
| 17:31.56 | Wizard | my company uses web based application for that and it works quite well :) |
| 17:32.12 | Wizard | i think it's good idea |
| 17:32.14 | elmo40 | is it called WorkTime Tracker? |
| 17:32.24 | Wizard | no it is called track ;) |
| 17:32.55 | elmo40 | do you have a link for me? |
| 17:32.59 | elmo40 | :) |
| 17:33.12 | elmo40 | or is this custom. |
| 17:33.21 | Wizard | it's unavailable for anybody from the outside |
| 17:33.31 | elmo40 | :( |
| 17:33.51 | Wizard | it's being developed and maintained by our company's developers and it's a bit speciffic |
| 17:34.05 | elmo40 | i have looked at many time tracking software from sourceforge.net, not too many 'tickle my fancy' :P |
| 17:35.55 | Wizard | not good :P |
| 17:36.07 | Wizard | it looks like you are going to erite your own |
| 17:36.10 | Wizard | write* |
| 17:36.16 | elmo40 | fun times. |
| 17:36.37 | elmo40 | some mySQL here, some RUBY there... voila, an application |
| 17:36.38 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 17:36.53 | Wizard | if you need only times of starting and ending work.. it's quite easy :D |
| 17:37.37 | elmo40 | true |
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| 17:38.11 | MatteoTheBoss | Hi |
| 17:38.22 | elmo40 | but to have user access, password protect, global scheduling, (and stuff i am probably not thinking about) takes time to develop. |
| 17:38.25 | MatteoTheBoss | I want to say if in the 1.0 gem elive is compatible for wi-fi |
| 17:38.25 | elmo40 | MatteoTheBoss: hi |
| 17:38.30 | Wizard | hello MatteoTheBoss |
| 17:38.34 | MatteoTheBoss | thanks |
| 17:38.37 | elmo40 | MatteoTheBoss: what wifi card do you have? |
| 17:38.51 | keyra | elmo40: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 17:38.57 | MatteoTheBoss | i have pen drive usb for the wi fi |
| 17:39.33 | Wizard | elmo40: i can't help you with that tracker.. |
| 17:39.50 | Wizard | but if it's about mail: postfix+dovecot |
| 17:40.13 | Wizard | simple, easy to set up |
| 17:40.18 | Wizard | and secure |
| 17:40.27 | elmo40 | will look into that :) |
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| 17:43.53 | elmo40 | i see many pages on that combination |
| 17:44.04 | elmo40 | why postfix over sendmail? |
| 17:44.09 | Wizard | yeah, it's quite popular |
| 17:44.20 | Wizard | postfix is easier to set up (for me) |
| 17:44.29 | elmo40 | i see |
| 17:44.33 | elmo40 | but same thing, eh? |
| 17:44.54 | Wizard | i have mail server, set up for virtual domains, with may aliases and it just works |
| 17:45.04 | Wizard | many* |
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| 17:47.21 | elmo40 | suppose i have a single box for the server. now i have multiple users on multiple boxes, they can use whatever email client they want? thunderbird? |
| 17:47.51 | elmo40 | or even mutt? |
| 17:47.57 | elmo40 | or pine? |
| 17:48.12 | elmo40 | as long as they are 'pointed' to the server, right? |
| 17:51.39 | DammitJim | loves pine |
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| 17:55.15 | Wizard | yeah |
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| 17:55.41 | AlexAnteMachina | Yeah! |
| 17:57.21 | DammitJim | gosh |
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| 17:58.36 | AlexAnteMachina | Goth! |
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| 18:07.37 | Elive_user69_fr | Hi all :) Anyone know how to do works fine HDA intel audio chip ? |
| 18:07.58 | Elive_user69_fr | cause i have an integrated subwoofer on my laptop but, it doesn't work |
| 18:08.12 | keyra | Elive_user69_fr: thanks... bot :) |
| 18:14.31 | elmo40 | Elive_user69_fr: integrated sub? what laptop? |
| 18:14.50 | Elive_user69_fr | elmo40, Toshiba X200-20F |
| 18:17.23 | Elive_user69_fr | elive work perfectly, wifi included but, the sound...it's awfull, no bass, on ubuntu it's working perfectly, but i don't know what are the differences betwin theses 2 distro, at the level of the sound |
| 18:17.38 | keyra | Elive_user69_fr: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 18:17.46 | elmo40 | Elive_user69_fr: this? http://materiel.froggytest.com/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/albux14/Toshiba_Satellite_X200_Ecran_ouvert.jpg |
| 18:18.33 | Elive_user69_fr | elmo40, yes this one :) |
| 18:18.33 | elmo40 | open a terminal, try editing the alsamixer. |
| 18:18.33 | elmo40 | or run alsaconfig (alsacfg) |
| 18:18.36 | Elive_user69_fr | all level are to the maximum in the mixer |
| 18:18.53 | elmo40 | max causes distortion. should be around 70-80% |
| 18:19.21 | Elive_user69_fr | elmo40, yess i know, but 70-80 or 100, it's the same thing, no bass |
| 18:19.49 | Elive_user69_fr | i don't know if it's because of the kernel or because of alsa config |
| 18:20.05 | Elive_user69_fr | i have sound, but, absolutely no bass |
| 18:20.32 | elmo40 | use a larger marteau ;) |
| 18:21.19 | Elive_user69_fr | marteau ? |
| 18:21.25 | elmo40 | you are french, non? |
| 18:21.41 | Elive_user69_fr | oui :) |
| 18:21.47 | elmo40 | marteau |
| 18:21.56 | elmo40 | it is a joke. |
| 18:22.03 | elmo40 | hit it with a hammer |
| 18:22.16 | Elive_user69_fr | lol yeah i thought it was a joke, but i wasn't sure ;) |
| 18:23.58 | elmo40 | oui, mon ami |
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| 18:24.47 | Elive_user69_fr | it's really the only drawback of elive, the only cause i will not install elive, really bad, i want it to work lol |
| 18:25.06 | elmo40 | what is the resolution on that laptop? |
| 18:25.10 | elmo40 | i have never seen it. |
| 18:25.12 | Elive_user69_fr | 1440*900 |
| 18:25.13 | elmo40 | not here! |
| 18:25.18 | elmo40 | only in EU ? |
| 18:25.32 | Elive_user69_fr | dont know, but, you know, there are a lot of X200 |
| 18:25.59 | Elive_user69_fr | X200-20, X200-21, X200-23, and put some letter after 21 or 23 and you have a dozen of X200 models ;) |
| 18:26.16 | elmo40 | but how many with subwoofer? |
| 18:26.28 | Elive_user69_fr | all of them i guess |
| 18:26.28 | elmo40 | 64-bit? |
| 18:26.36 | Elive_user69_fr | Intel C2D T7300 |
| 18:26.47 | Elive_user69_fr | and higher for the others |
| 18:26.57 | Elive_user69_fr | there are some Peryn model now |
| 18:27.22 | Elive_user69_fr | 8700M GT (as mine) or SLI of 8600 GT, depend of the model |
| 18:27.40 | elmo40 | sli 8600????? |
| 18:27.50 | elmo40 | such a gaming monster! |
| 18:27.53 | elmo40 | i want one! |
| 18:27.53 | Elive_user69_fr | on some of X200 yes |
| 18:27.57 | elmo40 | (or two) ;) |
| 18:28.10 | Elive_user69_fr | lol |
| 18:28.10 | elmo40 | can we say 20min of battery life? :P |
| 18:28.12 | Elive_user69_fr | be carefull |
| 18:28.30 | elmo40 | 2000 euros? |
| 18:28.37 | Elive_user69_fr | SLI of 8600M GT has more 3dmark point, but, in game, it's completely different |
| 18:28.49 | Elive_user69_fr | there aren't any mobile driver that support correctly SLI |
| 18:28.55 | Elive_user69_fr | 8700M GT is better |
| 18:28.58 | Elive_user69_fr | 1700⬠|
| 18:29.01 | elmo40 | wow, that is sad |
| 18:29.15 | Elive_user69_fr | and 1500 or 1400 for the olders as mine |
| 18:29.26 | Elive_user69_fr | battery life, 2h in normal mode |
| 18:29.37 | Elive_user69_fr | without gaming, backlight at min, no wifi |
| 18:29.49 | Elive_user69_fr | et bluetooth disabled too |
| 18:29.52 | keyra | Elive_user69_fr: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 18:29.58 | elmo40 | not too bad. |
| 18:30.36 | Elive_user69_fr | the sound is verry different on this laptop, very good i can say, so, you understand how i'm so sad lol |
| 18:32.40 | elmo40 | i understand |
| 18:32.50 | elmo40 | well, try looking into the Elpanel |
| 18:32.57 | elmo40 | see if anything is possible to edit there |
| 18:33.01 | Elive_user69_fr | i am |
| 18:33.06 | elmo40 | if not, then it may be an audio driver |
| 18:33.14 | Elive_user69_fr | i will try to compile a new kernel |
| 18:33.22 | Elive_user69_fr | i tried to install realtek driver, from the official siote |
| 18:33.27 | Elive_user69_fr | resultat : no sound anymore lol |
| 18:33.34 | elmo40 | what i suggest is to email yourself the list of 'lsmod' from both ubuntu and elive, then compare |
| 18:33.41 | elmo40 | find if there is one that is not in the Elive |
| 18:33.50 | Elive_user69_fr | elmo40, oh yeah good idea |
| 18:34.10 | elmo40 | then, see if there is the module in the Elive kernel to load. |
| 18:34.23 | Elive_user69_fr | i will do that, hope it will give me some results |
| 18:35.09 | Elive_user69_fr | it remember me past year, or 2 years ago, when i helped thanatermesis to do fglrx work on elive 0.5, i think, we passed 2 weeks to find the solution |
| 18:35.15 | Elive_user69_fr | ans we found it |
| 18:37.11 | Elive_user69_fr | so, it's time to eat, so if you want to contact me, i'm X3n0n too on this channel (other computer). thanks for your help elmo40 ;) |
| 18:38.26 | elmo40 | anytime, hombre |
| 18:38.43 | elmo40 | also email the lspci |
| 18:39.02 | elmo40 | it may not 'know' what you have, so it wont 'know' what module to load. |
| 18:39.17 | elmo40 | but try the 1.7.x ;) |
| 18:39.28 | DammitJim | anyone in here speak spanish? |
| 18:40.10 | elmo40 | not this time. still learning |
| 18:40.31 | DammitJim | oh ok |
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| 18:40.45 | Elive_user69_fr | elmo40, i'm talking from 1.7.2 ;) |
| 18:40.54 | elmo40 | :P |
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| 18:41.58 | elmo40 | X3n0n: i dont see any X series for sale here :( Only P, U, A. |
| 18:42.29 | X3n0n | 1,0E1,0lom40 : strange |
| 18:42.58 | X3n0n | 1,0E1,0lmo40 : the only X i know is the X200 or X203 |
| 18:43.31 | DammitJim | is there a way to put the shelves in other locations besides the 4 corners and 4 centers of the sides of the screen? |
| 18:44.43 | X3n0n | 1,0E1,0lmo40 : http://fr.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/seriesHomepage.do?service=FR&SERIES_ID=131319 |
| 18:45.06 | elmo40 | DammitJim: such as... where? the centre of the screen? |
| 18:45.25 | elmo40 | X3n0n: hrmm. i wonder why i can not find any here |
| 18:45.27 | DammitJim | uuummm... @ 5 o'clock |
| 18:45.35 | DammitJim | no, sorry |
| 18:45.43 | elmo40 | isnt 5 the corner? ;) |
| 18:45.43 | DammitJim | that would be more like 4 o'clock |
| 18:45.53 | elmo40 | 4:30 |
| 18:45.58 | DammitJim | lol |
| 18:45.58 | DammitJim | ;) |
| 18:47.48 | elmo40 | X3n0n: http://fr.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/productPage.do?service=FR&PRODUCT_ID=150266&toshibaShop=false |
| 18:47.52 | elmo40 | i wnt this one! |
| 18:51.18 | X3n0n | 1,0E1,0lmo40 : not too bad :þ |
| 18:51.36 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 18:51.40 | elmo40 | the most expensive, no? ;) |
| 18:51.42 | DammitJim | I need more speed for my HDD |
| 18:51.45 | elmo40 | :P |
| 18:52.09 | elmo40 | i blew up my power supply on my 3GHz computer... stuck with this old POS! |
| 18:52.13 | DammitJim | doing all this data intense tasks isn't good for a 7200rpm HDD |
| 18:52.50 | X3n0n | 1,0L1,0ol |
| 18:52.58 | X3n0n | 1,0H1,0ave to go gentlemens :) |
| 18:53.02 | X3n0n | 1,0G1,0ood night |
| 18:53.04 | elmo40 | Hostname: mint - OS: Linux 2.6.22-14-generic/i686 - CPU: Pentium II (Deschutes) (398.782 MHz) - Processes: 98 - Uptime: 1d 4h 29m - Load Average: 0.23 - Memory Usage: 226.39MB/376.82MB (60.08%) - Disk Usage: 0.87GB/2.31GB (37.49%) |
| 18:53.08 | X3n0n | 1,0S1,0ee you later ;) |
| 18:53.09 | DammitJim | nite |
| 18:53.27 | elmo40 | X3n0n: bonsoir |
| 18:54.27 | DammitJim | anyone in here running dual monitors? |
| 18:55.40 | elmo40 | nope |
| 18:55.45 | elmo40 | one vid card or two? |
| 18:56.52 | DammitJim | 1 |
| 18:56.59 | DammitJim | laptop and 22" LCD external |
| 18:57.50 | elmo40 | i think i need to use DSL. not enough RAM/CPU for running anything. |
| 18:57.51 | elmo40 | grr |
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| 20:20.34 | MatteoTheBoss | Hi |
| 20:20.55 | MatteoTheBoss | But Elive is a distro only Live who work with cd without load any file on HDD? |
| 20:20.58 | MatteoTheBoss | (without format) |
| 20:21.15 | roxville | MatteoTheBoss, elive is installable |
| 20:21.20 | DammitJim | yes |
| 20:21.46 | roxville | but the format has changed lately, so a new installer is needed |
| 20:21.56 | MatteoTheBoss | Ah |
| 20:21.59 | roxville | and our developer, Thanatermesis is working on it |
| 20:22.05 | MatteoTheBoss | I take from the site the version 1.0 gem |
| 20:22.10 | MatteoTheBoss | i load with the first boot my cd |
| 20:22.21 | MatteoTheBoss | and it load this file on the ram |
| 20:22.22 | roxville | yes |
| 20:22.36 | roxville | the installer is the icon on the far right in the launcher bar |
| 20:22.37 | MatteoTheBoss | Perfectly |
| 20:22.56 | roxville | in GEM, it works well |
| 20:23.51 | MatteoTheBoss | oh thanks i see |
| 20:23.56 | MatteoTheBoss | is the last icon on the right |
| 20:24.07 | roxville | correct :) |
| 20:24.20 | MatteoTheBoss | Thanks ;) |
| 20:24.37 | roxville | no problem MatteoTheBoss :) |
| 20:28.04 | MatteoTheBoss | with the version live i can't open the web browser |
| 20:30.41 | MatteoTheBoss | it is normal? |
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| 20:45.47 | curious | hello. it's nice elive asks for resolution @ startup... but it would be also nice if it asked for refresh rates |
| 20:50.43 | roxville | is away: going to gig |
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| 21:01.24 | DammitJim | good day |
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| 21:44.42 | Hendrick | hi my dear keyra :) |
| 21:44.46 | Hendrick | re all |
| 21:45.06 | Hendrick | keyra eltrans |
| 21:45.20 | keyra | Hendrick: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 21:45.44 | Hendrick | keyra poedit |
| 21:45.59 | keyra | Hendrick: if you want to use eltrans (in gem), install first poedit and do this configuration: File -> preferences -> disable the 'compile .mo files' option. And also go to the View tab and unselect both options about 'show comments' |
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| 21:48.01 | curious | hehe, i've solved the problem by just finding better monitor ;) |
| 21:48.18 | curious | editing xorg.conf @ each boot was bit annoying ;) |
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