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00:13.46loner269Wizard:  ya here
00:28.05loner269Wizard:  if ya around i got hit bad in the windows side i need 2 ?? answerd 1 if i can get in to safe mode what online will fix it
00:28.50loner2692 if i need to redo it is there a newer stable out with wireless ill get it an say the heck with it
00:29.04keyraloner269: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
00:29.22loner269if your not around can someone else i know tell me
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01:41.56loner269hi all
01:45.35loner269how you doing elmo
01:46.51loner269my windows is fryd
01:47.05loner269im saprised linux is ok
01:47.05keyraloner269: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems
01:47.32loner269keyra: mi amore  how you tonight
01:47.42loner269lol
01:48.42loner269hi LinuxNIT
02:07.07LinuxNIThi
02:07.16loner269how ya been
02:07.31LinuxNITgood and you?
02:07.51loner269good till i got hit on the windows side
02:08.10loner269looks like ill be on linux full time after the day i had lol
02:10.55LinuxNITwindows went down aye... its good at that
02:10.58LinuxNITbrb
02:11.07loner269ok
02:12.26LinuxNITback
02:14.09loner269wb
02:14.33loner269last time i got hit i lost a 200 gig hd
02:15.05loner269my nephue did the x-mas thing an the hd was dun
02:15.15loner269this time i got no idea what it was
02:15.59LinuxNITthe drive was toast or the data was lost?
02:16.14loner269both it was swiss chese
02:16.32loner269never could get it to work after that
02:16.55LinuxNITsucks
02:16.59loner269yep
02:17.17loner269this time i dont even got a clue what hit me'
02:17.36LinuxNITwont boot?
02:18.09loner269it emaild me then my security stuff went nuts then locked up nada nothing in safe after a bout a min same thing
02:18.56loner269this does boot starts windows i get who i workin under an then it starts going nuts
02:19.13loner269locks up then nothing
02:19.19loner269even in safe mode
02:19.38loner269an last good config didnt work eather
02:19.43LinuxNITany i/o errors/
02:19.44loner269im lost
02:19.44LinuxNIT?
02:20.00loner269cant get it to play nice long enough to see
02:20.12loner269but linux side seems ok
02:20.20loner269im here anyway lol
02:20.29LinuxNITmaybe a virus
02:21.17LinuxNITgot sick of dealing with windows crashes and moved to linux
02:21.36loner269when i first noticed it i tryd panda online an it through a trojin worning or something but that was after i saw it acting goofey
02:22.09loner269im going to go full time linux now screw it lol
02:22.12LinuxNITi have my parents using avg free edition and they havent had virus troupble in ages
02:22.34loner269its just the point i dont like it hitting me an not knowing what it was
02:22.45LinuxNIThehe
02:22.51loner269avast i like
02:24.04loner269im just real worried about installin it an not getting it runnin good ya know
02:24.26loner269i aint profishent enough in linux to run on my own
02:24.29loner269yet.
02:24.30LinuxNITnot gettingw what running good?
02:24.59loner269linux if i got problems i cant fix them like in windows most times anyway lol
02:25.21LinuxNITthats what chatrooms, forums, and google are for
02:25.24loner269an i hate feelin dumb
02:25.34loner269yea i no but still
02:25.44LinuxNITasking questions when you have trouble is not dumb
02:25.48LinuxNITdumb is refusing to ask
02:25.51loner269most times i read forums an there over my head
02:26.01loner269yea but you know what i meen
02:26.15LinuxNITyeah... but you just have to get over it and ask any way
02:26.18LinuxNITwe dont mind
02:26.27LinuxNITwe are here for that reason
02:26.47LinuxNITif we hated helping out we wouldnt be here
02:27.04loner269the other thing is i got 1.0 gem an 1.6 i guess the dev i dont know what to use
02:27.22LinuxNIT1.0 i stabler
02:27.28LinuxNIT*is stabler
02:27.31LinuxNITmore stable
02:27.33LinuxNITwhatever
02:27.58loner269my biggest worries are wireless an sound video chat an things like that
02:28.12keyraloner269: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
02:29.54LinuxNITwell i dont think unstable has good wireless built in by default yet
02:29.59LinuxNITwhat card do you use?
02:30.13loner269linksys g
02:30.28loner2694306 driver needed for it
02:31.00loner269like i said i got the tower in linux just not elive for now
02:31.02LinuxNITdoes it work in stable? (gem)
02:31.10loner269couldnt get wireless workin on it
02:31.16LinuxNITah
02:31.27LinuxNITwhat distro is it working in?
02:31.37loner269so i put pclinuxos in here for now
02:31.56LinuxNITwhat module is it using?
02:32.07LinuxNITand kernel
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02:32.09loner269it did work in sabayon but i had to net-setup everytime i got on
02:32.45loner269i dont know
02:33.09LinuxNITuname -a will tell the kernel
02:33.36loner269in this os or elive?
02:33.45LinuxNITany linux
02:33.57loner269in a term
02:33.59loner269?
02:34.00LinuxNITyes
02:34.36loner269ok i dont get what i see but it did it
02:34.52LinuxNITcopy and paste
02:35.07keyraLinuxNIT: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
02:35.48loner269Linux localhost 2.6.22.15.tex2 #1 SMP Mon Dec 17 23:18:44 CST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz GNU/Linux
02:35.53loner269brb
02:36.43LinuxNITyour kernel version is 2.6.22.15.tex2
02:37.10LinuxNITdo you know if you used ndiswrapper for your wireless card?
02:37.24keyraLinuxNIT: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
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02:38.21LinuxNITlsmod | grep ndis
02:38.42LinuxNITif it says ndiswrapper then you did... if now output then you did not
02:38.54loner269when its starting i hit f1 i think anyway what ever it shows what its doing i saw ndis in there also alot of ignores
02:39.20LinuxNITrun the command above
02:40.30loner269if i did it rite i dont know but i got lsmod then prompt
02:41.39loner269no i did it wrong
02:41.58loner269ok it has 2 lines then prompt
02:42.24loner269ndiswrapper an usbcore
02:42.33LinuxNITyoure using ndiswrapper
02:42.38loner269ok
02:42.39LinuxNIThave you tried ndiswrapper in elive?
02:42.53loner269i didnt have it
02:43.12LinuxNITelive has ndiswrapper installed
02:43.14loner269in the elive 1.0 it wasnt there
02:43.26loner269i tryd
02:43.36loner269even came in here but nada
02:43.36LinuxNITdo you have gem installed?
02:43.43loner269no not yet
02:43.54loner269just xp an pclinuxos
02:44.08LinuxNITkeyra ndiswrapper how to
02:44.22loner269i want elive....... i like it better than sabayon an thats saying alot
02:45.19loner269when roxville  he can tell ya i tryd he said talk to you about it but i cought you on a bad day i guess an then i just gave up
02:45.53loner269ask roxville  when*
02:46.03LinuxNITsorry
02:46.07loner269man i cant type today
02:46.09loner269lol
02:46.11LinuxNITim busier than i used to be
02:46.16LinuxNIT(married)
02:46.18loner269no worries
02:46.21loner269lol
02:46.34LinuxNITwell ndiswrapper uses windows drivers in linux for wireless devices
02:46.38loner269havent ya noticed i dont try to pester no one lol
02:46.48keyraLinuxNIT: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
02:47.11loner269i read a forum about some one else didnt have that in there too
02:47.19loner269prince something i think
02:47.38LinuxNITprinceamd
02:47.39loner269i thought it was just me
02:47.50loner269yea i think so
02:48.02loner269id have to look again its been awaile
02:48.12LinuxNITdownload the windows driver for the card
02:48.22LinuxNITthen get a terminal as root
02:48.27LinuxNITcd into the directory
02:48.45loner269i got the lucent fin usb  with the drivers for it on disk
02:48.45LinuxNITrun: ndiswrapper -i inf-file-name
02:48.48LinuxNITthat installs the driver
02:49.02LinuxNITthen: modprobe ndiswrapper
02:49.07LinuxNITthen: iwconfig
02:49.16LinuxNITthat will tell you if the card is recognized
02:49.23LinuxNITif so: ndiswrapper -m
02:49.35LinuxNITndiswrapper -h
02:49.46LinuxNITthatwill print the usage details for ndiswrapper
02:49.51LinuxNITtry that out in gem
02:50.06loner269so inf-what its saved as?for the name?
02:50.38LinuxNITcd into the directory that holds the drivers
02:50.44LinuxNITls  to print all the files
02:51.07LinuxNITthere will be at least one file in there ending in .inf
02:51.15LinuxNITit describes the driver
02:51.28loner269.inf .sys i saw
02:51.34LinuxNITif the filename is for example linksys-driver.inf
02:51.37loner269b4 do i need both?
02:51.44LinuxNITthen run: ndiswrapper -i linksys-driver.inf
02:51.48loner269o ok
02:52.18LinuxNITcopy this chat out so you can refer back to it
02:52.47loner269how again?
02:52.54LinuxNIThow to what?
02:53.31loner269copy it so i can throw it on usb so when im in elive i can open it an do it so i dontr mess up
02:54.49LinuxNIThighlight it then cntrl+c and then cntrl+v in a text editor
02:55.04LinuxNITor just middle click to paste after the highlight
02:55.43loner269ok i got it in my error note i have for cope an past lol
02:55.59LinuxNIT:)
02:56.07LinuxNITgood luck... let me know if you have trouble
02:56.16LinuxNITim gonna let ya go for now though
02:56.17loner269so i no i can put it on the usb by drag an drop to it rite?
02:56.19LinuxNITtime for bed
02:56.26LinuxNITshould be able to
02:56.37loner269ok ty nit  have a good 1
02:56.43LinuxNITnp
02:56.44LinuxNITlaters
02:57.59loner269back later ya'll
02:58.04loner269i hope
02:58.06loner269lol
03:15.07elmo40picked up a 650W power supply today :) 4 rails of +12V@18A ! Very nice.
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03:52.00loner269this thing hates me
03:53.31loner269on the usb wireless or the lynksys nothing worked
03:53.45keyraloner269: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
03:53.59loner269shut up keyra  plz
03:54.13keyraloner269: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis
03:55.12loner269LinuxNIT:  thought you left lol
03:56.40loner269im going to tbed ill mess with this tomarrow night when i get back night all
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05:05.10Elive_user5hola a todos
05:05.24keyraElive_user5: que tal ?
05:05.40Elive_user5pues bien
05:06.00Elive_user5y tu
05:07.14Elive_user5esta bonito este os
05:09.48Elive_user5hola
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09:51.05Genscherhey :)
09:51.16Genscheri installed elive 1.6 withupdated einstaller
09:51.24Genscherloads fine but
09:51.29Genscheri cannot login
09:51.38Genscherit tells me "wrong password"
09:52.05Genscherbut that can't be because I can do ctrl-alt-F1 and log into the console using the same password (standard english letters)
09:53.07Genscheris that a known issue?
09:53.22Genscheri used the .experimental installer
09:53.29Genscheras suggested yesterday in here
09:54.32Genscher# Entrance: The no-login problem that some users have experienced when they try to login on entrance and don't enter a wrong password. Fixed  
09:54.37Genscherok, known issue fixed
09:54.47Genscherlet me see if i can update entrance from the console
10:00.01Genscheris half about to buy some vista64 :/
10:08.56Genscheronly elive keeps me alive
10:08.58Genscher:D
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10:39.42wasynytheh
10:39.46wasynyt:D
10:39.50wasynytgood afternoon people
10:40.30Wizardgood afternoon wasynyt
10:40.42Wizardhow ya doin'?
10:40.43elmo40good morning y'all
10:40.50elmo40Fri May 16 06:40:10 EDT 2008
10:40.51Wizardy'all
10:40.55elmo40:P
10:40.55wasynyti am doing well
10:41.05wasynytand you all
10:41.37Wizardgood like allways
10:44.16wasynytgood good
10:44.18wasynyt:D
10:45.23elmo40good
11:10.28wasynytgotta go
11:10.31wasynytsee you later
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11:36.34loner269hi all
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11:38.29mathmanpGenscher, install went well ?
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11:51.45AlexAnteMachinaGenscher?
11:51.54AlexAnteMachinaGenscher, ???
11:51.59AlexAnteMachinaDER Genscher ?
11:52.11AlexAnteMachinaGenschman?
12:00.06Genscherjo
12:01.09Genschermathmanp, i am using command line now to burn other linuxes ;)
12:01.33mathmanphehe ok
12:06.21Elive_user25why are windows ntfs read/write but ext3 file systems read only?
12:06.35keyraElive_user25: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol)
12:09.20Elive_user25If ext3 would read/write I would dump NTFS.
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12:09.49Elive_user34Buenas
12:09.56X3n0nOla :)
12:10.00Elive_user34algun vago?
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12:11.41mathmanpElive_user25, probably your /etc/fstab  says it just is mounted  readonly.
12:12.54Elive_user34alguien tiene el elive por la mano?
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12:38.05DammitJimhave you guys seen this?
12:38.16DammitJimhttp://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9085980&taxonomyId=17&intsrc=kc_top
12:38.20DammitJimhow does this affect us?
12:40.49mathmanpDammitJim, apt-get upgrade and read: http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571
12:40.57DammitJimty
12:42.47DammitJimdo I have to do a full upgrade
12:42.54DammitJimor can I just "install" openssl again?
12:43.02DammitJimdammit... my repositories are broken!
12:44.15mathmanpdid you apt-get update before ?
12:44.43DammitJimwhen I did it, it crapped out on me
12:44.44DammitJimhold on
12:45.00DammitJimW: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D
12:45.00DammitJimW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
12:45.02mathmanpand I think just upgrade opensll will be ok
12:45.08DammitJim:
12:45.10DammitJim;_
12:46.01mathmanpwell apt-get update && apt-get upgrade did fix inconsistent repos for me yesterday.
12:46.12DammitJimok
12:46.13DammitJimcool
12:47.34DammitJimwhat is the file name that holds the repos?
12:49.35mathmanp<PROTECTED>
12:50.37DammitJimmathmanp, are you running gem?
12:50.41DammitJimwho is using gem?
12:51.17mathmanpDammitJim, no I'm in 1.7.2
12:51.48DammitJimhow do you like 1.7.2?
12:51.59DammitJimweird.. I'm up to date
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12:52.09DammitJimbut I didn't think I had upgraded recently
12:53.27mathmanpI like it, but it still has some rough edges: e.g. all "su" stuff is not very consistent, elpanel partially defunct, and I had to deistall laptop mode.
12:53.43DammitJimwhat laptop are you running
12:53.56DammitJimoh, you mean the su stuff where it doesn't show you the same enter password applet?
12:54.10mathmanpold dell latitude, don't ask for the number
12:54.41DammitJimLOL... don't worry.. I have 1.6.2 on a Latitude CSx
12:55.21mathmanpIt uses esu for most apps and gksu for some, with gksu remembering your passwd, but popping up a warning if it does not ask.
12:55.58mathmanphehe, I don't know the number, because i got a friends garbage for free.
12:56.37DammitJimLMAO... I got mine from my old job... they were tossing them, so I looked in the pile and put components together :)
12:56.49DammitJimthe only thing I don't like is that the battery doesn't work
12:57.42mathmanphehe, my battery is broken, too, lasting 5 min. max.
12:58.08DammitJimI don't know what happened to it, it would hold a 5 min charge so I could at least unplug, move and plug back in, but now it doesn't even do that
12:58.08DammitJimLOL
12:58.22DammitJimI think the battery is more expensive than the machine itself.. LMAO
13:10.54mathmanpDammitJim, it might be good also to update openssh from what I read.
13:12.42X3n0nanyone know how can i connect a remote shared folder ? smb share to be exact
13:13.03DammitJimyou mean, what command?
13:13.07DammitJimlike smbmount?
13:13.16X3n0nDammitJim: is there a graphical tool for that ?
13:13.38DammitJimisn't that on elpanel?
13:13.54DammitJimthe mounter and unmounter?
13:14.18X3n0nDammitJim: i guess, but don't know where, i believed it was a graphical tool for that...
13:14.31DammitJimto tell you the truth, I don't know
13:14.41X3n0nok, no problem :)
13:14.44DammitJimdo you not want to do it on the command line?
13:15.13X3n0nDammitJim: yes, if there is a command line i take :D
13:15.35DammitJimok, so where does your share reside?
13:15.51X3n0nin a computer named FAB, and the share's name is DataPC
13:15.59DammitJimdo you know the IP?
13:16.02X3n0nyes
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13:16.13DammitJimso, create a directory in your media or mnt folder
13:16.25DammitJimthis is what I use to mount my network drive
13:17.01X3n0noki
13:17.07DammitJimmount -t cifs -o username=dammitjim, password=xxx //192.168.1.1/DataPC /media/newfolder
13:17.10DammitJimsomething like that
13:17.10DammitJimtry it
13:17.51X3n0nhumm i'll try, just need to reboot the laptop
13:18.34DammitJimk
13:18.43DammitJimbut you understand the command, right?
13:18.51DammitJimotherwise, you can use smbmount... etc
13:19.58X3n0nyep i understand =)
13:20.25DammitJimk
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13:39.02X3n0nDammitJwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.......
13:40.12X3n0nDammitJim: doesn"t work
13:40.51DammitJimdammit
13:40.58DammitJimdon't use -t cifs, then
13:41.16X3n0nok
13:41.31X3n0nsame error
13:42.01DammitJimdammit
13:42.09DammitJimcan you paste the error, please?
13:42.30X3n0n_DammitJim, [root /home/xenon]# mount -t cifs //192.168.1.12/DataPC /mnt/DeskPC/
13:42.30X3n0n_mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.12/DataPC,
13:42.30X3n0n_<PROTECTED>
13:42.30X3n0n_<PROTECTED>
13:42.30X3n0n_<PROTECTED>
13:42.44keyraX3n0n_: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes
13:42.54DammitJimyou can ping that IP, right?
13:43.17X3n0nDammitJim: yep
13:43.49DammitJimtry smbmount
13:43.57X3n0nwhat is the syntax ?
13:44.11DammitJimhold on
13:44.52DammitJimrun smbmount -h
13:44.54DammitJimjust to see that you have it
13:45.27X3n0nhumm seems not to be there
13:45.51DammitJimapt-get install smbmount
13:46.01DammitJimactually
13:46.32DammitJimapt-get install samba
13:46.59DammitJimor you can also use
13:47.04DammitJimapt-get install smbfs
13:47.08DammitJimyes, use that
13:47.20DammitJimafter you install smbfs, you'll be able to use the mount command I gave you earlier
13:47.25DammitJimbut -t smbfs
13:47.26DammitJimthat's all
13:47.31X3n0nokay
13:47.55DammitJimsorry
13:48.47X3n0ni just wait upadates finish
13:48.51DammitJimk
13:52.55X3n0nlol my filesystem pass to read only, great....
13:53.11DammitJimwhat? how?
13:53.55X3n0nafter the update, already happened last week, just restart x and it's ok
14:00.30X3n0nGreat DammitJim it works ;)
14:00.41DammitJimso, you are ok now?
14:01.16X3n0nyep, but, if a graphical tool (to discover network and shared folder) exist, it would be nice
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14:03.56DammitJimyeah
14:04.03DammitJimI have seen one before, just don't remember
14:08.21X3n0nDammitJim: me too
14:09.27DammitJimI might be confused with Suse
14:09.49DammitJimoh yeah
14:09.50DammitJimwebmin
14:10.33DammitJimswat
14:10.40DammitJimand smb web client
14:10.45DammitJimI think those are the ones I've seen
14:13.13X3n0nDammitJim: humm i don't thinks about those one :D
14:29.32DammitJimwow... keyra quit!
14:29.40DammitJimnoooooooooo.... keyra, love, come back to me!
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14:30.15DammitJimkeyra: kiss\
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15:01.55Elive_user42hola
15:02.01DammitJimhola
15:02.10keyraElive_user42: que tal ?
15:02.39Elive_user42como estas? necesito una manito..
15:03.23Elive_user42necesito redimiensionar mis particiones pero tambien necesito que alguien me guie para no hecharlo a perder, estoy empezando en esto
15:03.51DammitJimok
15:03.59DammitJimentonces, tienes data que tienes que guardar?
15:05.11Elive_user42tengo una particion windows, una ext3 para root, otra ext3 para home, la swap y aun me queda espacio sin asignar
15:05.33Elive_user42existe alguna manera de que te mande la info de mis particiones?
15:06.24DammitJimsip
15:06.27DammitJimhaz un df
15:06.35DammitJimcreo
15:06.43DammitJimoh no
15:06.46DammitJimeso no te da la info
15:06.48DammitJimhhhmmmmm
15:06.56DammitJimen gparted se puede ver
15:07.16DammitJimbueno, pero tienes que guardar o hacer "backup" de informacion en esas particiones?
15:07.50Elive_user42no tengo nada.. solo que no quisiera perder las instalaciones porque no tengo el disco.
15:08.09Elive_user42bueno la cosa es asi
15:08.15Elive_user42tengo 2 particiones primarias
15:08.23DammitJimoh, entonces la instalacion de windows no puedes cambiar de tamano... creo
15:08.28DammitJimhay la posibilidad de que se dane
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15:08.43Elive_user42pero aqui sale el espacio disponible
15:08.59Elive_user42osea el gparted no deberia tocar los datos almacenados
15:09.24Elive_user42bueno acabo de tratar de redimensionar y me dijo que tenia que arreglar algo con chldsk
15:09.43Elive_user42chkdisk
15:10.41DammitJimclaro
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15:10.51DammitJimque tipo de "filesystem" tienes para windows
15:10.57DammitJimntfs o fat32?
15:11.04Elive_user42ntfs
15:11.11keyraDammitJim: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol)
15:11.40DammitJimok, that's not funny, keyra
15:11.47DammitJimElive_user42, has a problem :-P
15:11.56Elive_user42i am a new linux user..
15:12.00DammitJimok, so, you won't be able to resize the NTFS partition
15:12.03DammitJimprobably...
15:12.09DammitJimso, I would recommend leaving it like that
15:12.20Elive_user42I hardly know anything of it..
15:12.24DammitJimunless you want to go into windows and use something like partition magic and resize the NTFS partition
15:12.30DammitJimgive me the sizes
15:12.32DammitJimof your partitions
15:12.44Elive_user42I cant use partition magic.
15:12.55Elive_user42it just wont work..
15:12.57Elive_user42ok
15:13.06Elive_user42its:
15:13.30Elive_user42/dev/hda1  13.67gb
15:13.44Elive_user42ntfs
15:14.10Elive_user42hda2 3.72gb ext3
15:14.25Elive_user42hda5 4.66gb ext3
15:14.39Elive_user4213.77gb unalocated
15:14.51Elive_user42linux swap 478mb
15:15.57DammitJimok
15:16.00DammitJimhow much ram do you have?
15:16.04Elive_user42256
15:16.14DammitJimso, I would recommend you leaving the 13.67GB NTFS alone
15:16.26Elive_user42ok
15:16.29DammitJimthen you have 3.72 + 4.66 + 13.77 for Linux
15:16.40Elive_user42yes
15:16.44DammitJimwhat do you want to install? Elive GEM?
15:17.07Elive_user42no I just want to give / more space
15:17.31Elive_user42because I ran out of it :)
15:18.20DammitJimand you are already running Elive?
15:18.33Elive_user42I use the 3.72 partition for everything but home.
15:18.51DammitJimhhhmmmmm
15:18.52Elive_user42I have installed debian leny
15:19.05DammitJimthe problem is that you have to unmount the drive if you want to make changes, I believe
15:19.06DammitJimhold on
15:19.07keyraElive_user42: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
15:19.19Elive_user42I am using elive to do the partition job.
15:19.20keyraDammitJim: don't ask to ask, ask your problem
15:20.05DammitJimso, your empty partition
15:20.11DammitJimis it unmounted?
15:20.14Elive_user42i wont use elive
15:20.32Elive_user42no
15:20.46Elive_user42hey here's something I dont understand
15:20.50DammitJimok...
15:21.02DammitJimyou need to unmount your root partition
15:21.07DammitJimthen you can click on resize/move
15:21.17Elive_user42it says extended and includes a linux partition, the free space and the swap
15:21.20DammitJimso that you can eat up the partition that has nothing
15:21.37DammitJimyes... it has to be an extended probably because you have used up all your primaries
15:21.39DammitJimperhaps
15:21.59Elive_user42let's see
15:22.09Elive_user42the ones mounted are extended and swap
15:23.33DammitJimit's ok if they are extended
15:23.46Elive_user42let me tell you one thing I don't understand
15:24.04Elive_user42windows partition ins enclosed in green
15:24.15Elive_user42hda is enclosed in purple
15:24.25Elive_user42and there's an extended partition
15:24.56Elive_user42with hda5 and swap including free space enclosed in blue
15:25.41Elive_user42do you get it?
15:29.28Elive_user42can I make a logical partition inside of the extended and move all the files from one to the other?
15:29.42Elive_user42I cant resize
15:29.50Elive_user42they are all unmounted
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16:27.23AlexAnteMachinahi folks
16:28.23DammitJimhi AlexAnteMachina
16:30.55AlexAnteMachinahey DammitJim
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17:38.20Elive_user34#elive
17:41.12DammitJim:)
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17:52.25Elive_user34qualcuno sa dirmi come posso aggiungere un icona per avviare un applicazione sulla barra del desktop di elive 1.0
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18:13.11herrkinhello
18:16.07herrkinhello, Im gonna install linux and need some help partitioning. would you help me?
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18:50.01AlexAnteMachinahey ho!
18:59.28DammitJimhi ho
19:00.29herrkinhi
19:01.07herrkinhi Im the guy that was talking about the ntfs resize
19:01.21herrkinI just reinstalled everything
19:01.22keyraherrkin: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol)
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19:01.35DammitJimgood job
19:01.50herrkinis that something programed?
19:02.04herrkinntfs
19:02.27herrkinhaha because it says the same thing as before
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19:10.14Elive_user79hello all
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19:12.00Elive_user79does anybody know what is the name of the elive file manager
19:12.04Elive_user79????
19:12.27bentejuyhi Elive_user79
19:12.40bentejuyis thunar
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19:20.07Elive_user25i wish i knew more about linux
19:20.21Elive_user25is there anyone else here using elive currently?
19:20.26Elive_user25lol
19:20.53Elive_user25where can i find a good tutorial on how to harness the power of elive
19:20.54Elive_user25?
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19:26.25bentejuyElive_user25, welcome to elive
19:27.18bentejuyElive_user25, over elive i do not know a specific tutorial, but elive is based on debian and you can find lots of information about debian/linux on internet
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19:29.24bentejuyalso you can ask your questions in this channel or in the elive's forums ;)
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19:54.17wasynytgood evening people
19:56.06Elive_user25great
19:56.18Elive_user25thank you, i just happened to stumble here
19:56.51Elive_user25i know it's based on debian, but it is still rather hard to find the BEST program to run an FTP server
19:57.27DammitJimyou want an ftp server?
19:57.30Elive_user25keep in mind i am not a novice when it comes to networking or windows
19:57.34Elive_user25yeah
19:57.39Elive_user25i am running 2 ftp servers now
19:57.45DammitJimwhat are you currently running?
19:57.47Elive_user25need to switch them to elice
19:57.50Elive_user25elive
19:57.54Elive_user25i am runnning SERV U
19:57.58Elive_user25for windos
19:58.06DammitJimyikes!
19:58.08Elive_user25yeah
19:58.13DammitJimdo you have elive installed?
19:58.16Elive_user25yeah
19:58.19Elive_user25on the hard disk
19:58.52DammitJimwyen you say best.... what are your requirements?
19:58.54DammitJimlightweight?
19:58.59DammitJimmore configurable?
19:59.01Elive_user25exactly
19:59.03Elive_user25lightweight
19:59.12Elive_user25i just want it to run STABLE
19:59.21DammitJimoh
19:59.23Elive_user25lol
19:59.29Elive_user25common windows issue lol
19:59.33DammitJimwell, my experience has been a very good one with ftpd
19:59.47Elive_user25ahh ok
19:59.59Elive_user25i'm going to assume that app-get ftpd will do the trick/?
20:00.07DammitJimapt-get install ftpd
20:00.09DammitJimthat'll be it
20:00.36Elive_user25ahh
20:00.53Elive_user25do you always put install?
20:01.10Elive_user25reason i ask is becuase I have used the emerge a lot in a Gentoo build
20:01.14DammitJimI do
20:01.15Elive_user25totally different
20:01.19DammitJimbut maybe it isn't needed?
20:01.21DammitJimdunno
20:01.29Elive_user25apt-get install ftpd
20:01.33Elive_user25thank yo
20:02.27DammitJimyw
20:02.38Elive_user25it's installing now had to use the su command
20:03.22DammitJimright
20:03.32DammitJimand as a backup, you can use wu-ftpd
20:03.53Elive_user25it's in /usr/share/themes/industrial/gtk.......
20:04.12Elive_user25ahhh thank you
20:04.12Elive_user25how do i navigate to that dir?
20:04.13DammitJimwhat do you mean?
20:04.20DammitJimonce it's installed, you are ready to go
20:04.23DammitJim:
20:04.25DammitJim:)
20:04.28DammitJimtry to ftp to that server
20:04.31DammitJimand you should be able to get in
20:04.40Elive_user25with anonymous access?
20:04.42DammitJimand depending on your credentials, you'll be able to go where you need to go
20:05.24Elive_user25sry let me rephrase
20:05.54Elive_user25how can i open the ftpd program?  Or am i not getting the concept here?
20:06.11DammitJimthere is no program to "open"
20:06.17Elive_user25i see
20:06.22DammitJimyou can configure access and such by going to the configuration file
20:06.29Elive_user25ahhhh
20:06.30DammitJimmeaning... what would you like to configure
20:06.33DammitJimman ftpd
20:06.36Elive_user25k
20:07.19DammitJimlol... I just screwed up my ftp server
20:07.22DammitJimI think I uninstalled it
20:07.55DammitJimlol... yes, I fixed it
20:07.57DammitJimhahaha
20:08.01Elive_user25hmm
20:08.06Elive_user25so how do you uninstall things?
20:08.15DammitJimapt-get remove ftpd
20:08.27Elive_user25ahhhh i see so everything that is apt-get related
20:08.34Elive_user25has multiple parameters
20:08.54Elive_user25ok that solves my cluelessness
20:08.59Elive_user25one more quick one
20:09.12wasynytman apt-get is a good starting point
20:09.16Elive_user25besides lspci, what can i use to see what drivers I need or have?
20:09.57wasynytdmesg shows kernel messages
20:10.17wasynytit shows if some device isnt loading correctly, like missing firmware
20:11.00Elive_user25wow i got a lot of stuff
20:11.01Elive_user25lol
20:11.07Elive_user25thanks for the input
20:11.09wasynyt:D
20:11.17wasynytit will give you a lot of stuff
20:11.29Elive_user25yeah a shitload
20:11.30Elive_user25lol
20:11.41wasynytplease mind your language
20:11.44wasynyt:D
20:12.05Elive_user25sure
20:12.40wasynytwell kernel interacts with every piece of hardware so there is going to be quite a lot info
20:13.15Elive_user25right, in what part will i find the driver configurations, or does that depend on the way the kernel was built?
20:13.40DammitJimwhat driver are you looking for?
20:13.59Elive_user25video possibly, i don't think the driver is detected
20:14.07Elive_user25again i'm a noob with debian
20:14.09Elive_user25lol
20:14.26DammitJimvideo... hhhhmmmm... you got no video?
20:14.43Elive_user25i have video and enlightenment is running but not smoothly, shows signs of poor quality
20:14.44Elive_user25and so on
20:14.54DammitJimhhhmmmmm....
20:14.57wasynytwhat hardware you have
20:15.08wasynytand which driver did you choose
20:16.11Elive_user25mga6400/6450 series
20:16.16Elive_user25matrox graphics
20:16.29wasynythmm
20:16.31Elive_user25it has two vga outputs
20:16.36wasynytyup
20:17.04Elive_user25the comuter is not fast, it is p3
20:17.19Elive_user25with 324mb ram
20:17.21wasynyt800 ? or 1000
20:17.33M1cr0s0ftwhat resolution are you working with?
20:17.33Elive_user25i don't know, lol I've never had windows on it
20:17.37wasynyt324 mb of ram is plenty
20:17.47Elive_user25yeah
20:18.24Elive_user25800x600
20:18.29Elive_user25won't let me go any higher
20:18.34Elive_user25i really want to go higher lol
20:18.38wasynythmm
20:19.05Elive_user251024x768 is my optimal
20:19.25DammitJimhhhmmm
20:19.25Elive_user25i don't have that option though
20:19.25mathmanptried hacking xorg.conf ?
20:19.34DammitJimmaybe do a
20:19.40DammitJimdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
20:19.54DammitJimand what version of Elive are you using?
20:22.21Elive_user25hacking xorg.conf is a reach for me lol
20:22.35Elive_user25how can i find what version?
20:23.16DammitJimeeehhh.... what ISO did you download?
20:23.30wasynytdo uname -a
20:23.53wasynytrun in terminal "uname -a"
20:24.22Elive_user25k
20:24.29Elive_user25i got it a long time ago
20:24.50Elive_user252.6.18
20:24.55Elive_user25#2
20:25.29mathmanp<PROTECTED>
20:25.31DammitJimElive_user25, a quick tool you can learn....
20:25.39DammitJimdo you have a mouse with a scroll wheel?
20:25.44Elive_user25yeah
20:25.54DammitJimdo a uname -a
20:25.56DammitJimon the terminal
20:25.58DammitJimhighlight the line
20:26.00wasynytthanks mathmap
20:26.08DammitJimand then on here just press the scroll wheel
20:26.08DammitJim;)
20:26.41wasynytso to find out what version you are running -> cat /etc/elive-version
20:27.01Elive_user25Linux ELIVE BOX 2.6.18-elive #2 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 6 00:41:56 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
20:27.07DammitJimcat /etc/elive-version | grep codename
20:27.12DammitJimbeatutiful, Elive_user25
20:27.21keyraDammitJim: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes
20:27.42DammitJimshut up, keyra
20:27.42DammitJimyou haven't kissed me today
20:27.42Elive_user25elive-codename: Gem
20:27.42keyraDammitJim: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis
20:27.50Elive_user25thanks a lot guys now i know how to copy and paste lol
20:27.59Elive_user25makes life a LOT easier
20:27.59Empirical_Evidenlol
20:28.04keyraElive_user25: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
20:28.17Empirical_Evidenkeyra: copy and paste
20:28.30Elive_user25ty
20:28.44wasynythmms
20:29.01Elive_user25am i running the most current version ?
20:29.02DammitJimdammit keyra, you don't have to be like that
20:29.10DammitJimyou are running the latest stable version
20:29.11DammitJimwhich is good
20:29.14Elive_user25good
20:30.05Elive_user25btw
20:30.08Elive_user25bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found
20:30.14DammitJimsu
20:30.26Elive_user25ah
20:30.44DammitJimjust exit after you are done!
20:31.16Elive_user25k
20:31.22Elive_user25what driver
20:31.23Elive_user25?
20:31.24Elive_user25mga?
20:31.51Elive_user25for xserver
20:31.54wasynytdpkg-reconfigure xserv-xorg
20:32.26DammitJimdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
20:32.27DammitJimright?
20:32.29DammitJimor xserv?
20:33.26wasynytcant remember.. i think it was xserv but if that doesnt work then it is xserver
20:35.07Elive_user25it is xserver
20:35.09Elive_user25i just did it
20:35.13wasynytk
20:35.16wasynyt:D
20:35.19Elive_user25still no higher resolution than 800x600
20:35.47DammitJimwas there an option for matrox?
20:35.56Elive_user25no
20:37.46wasynythttp://pastebin.com/ <- paste your dmesg in to there, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf to another. and send both links here
20:38.32Elive_user25k
20:39.03wasynytthat way we can see what the machine is loading, and what hardware it has
20:40.58Elive_user25http://pastebin.com/d6c4b4264
20:41.03Elive_user25this is dmesg
20:42.37wasynytok
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20:42.45wasynytyou have 800 mhz p3
20:42.46Elive_user25stupid question
20:42.54Elive_user25how do i open the conf file
20:42.55Elive_user25?
20:43.28DammitJimyou can use
20:43.33wasynytwhat is preinstalled in elive ?
20:43.35DammitJima windows like thingie called cream
20:43.38mathmanpnano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
20:43.44wasynytdoesnt have elive installed
20:43.46Elive_user25nano that's right
20:43.48DammitJimor you can use nano, thanks, mathmanp
20:43.54Elive_user25ya thanks
20:44.57Elive_user25eh can't select all lol
20:45.03Elive_user25there's a lot in there
20:45.06DammitJimon nano?
20:45.08DammitJimoh yeah
20:45.09Elive_user25ya
20:45.15DammitJimmake the terminal bigger
20:45.15DammitJimlol
20:45.25Elive_user25lol resolution still really small
20:45.27Elive_user25can't see it all
20:45.28Elive_user25lol
20:46.08DammitJimwasynyt, can't he just upload a file?
20:46.33wasynythe could
20:46.41DammitJimsounds like the better solution?
20:46.46Elive_user25should i just upload the conf file?
20:46.56wasynytwell if you know a good place to drop it
20:47.00Elive_user25lol
20:47.17Elive_user25email lol
20:47.39wasynytthis channels logs are googlable.. no thank you
20:47.53DammitJimoh
20:48.09Elive_user25really?
20:49.25mathmanpyou could try to hve just   Modes           "1024x768" in  SubSection "Display" in Section "Screen", bu maybe X then fails to start.
20:49.30wasynytat least they used to be
20:49.35wasynytyeah
20:49.45wasynyti just would like to see it
20:50.14wasynytwell, only the device section where the graphics adapter and driver are and those modes
20:54.13Elive_user25k
20:55.02Elive_user25lol i'll try it
20:55.06wasynytheh
20:55.20Elive_user25oh wait
20:55.27wasynyt?
20:55.29Elive_user25i got what you wanted from xorg.conf
20:55.51wasynytjust put it here
20:56.20wasynytif you havent puted it into pastebin
20:57.01Elive_user25Section "Screen"
20:57.01Elive_user25<PROTECTED>
20:57.01Elive_user25<PROTECTED>
20:57.01Elive_user25<PROTECTED>
20:57.01Elive_user25<PROTECTED>
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20:57.48Elive_user25<PROTECTED>
20:57.50Elive_user25sry everyone
20:58.25wasynytand the part where the device itself is
20:58.57wasynytsection "device"
21:01.35Elive_user25oh
21:01.38Elive_user25looking for it
21:02.23wasynytk
21:02.33Elive_user25Section "Device"
21:02.33Elive_user25<PROTECTED>
21:02.33Elive_user25<PROTECTED>
21:02.33Elive_user25<PROTECTED>
21:02.33Elive_user25EndSection
21:03.06Elive_user25my video card does have 2 vga ouputs only one works though, the other doesn't post
21:03.23Elive_user25would it be easier to just replace my video board?
21:04.50wasynytyou need to enable it
21:04.53wasynyt:D
21:05.17roxvillehmmm
21:05.25roxvilleare you running vesa drivers?
21:05.33Elive_user25well i could care less for right now, I really do need a higher resolution though
21:05.34wasynytmga
21:05.39roxvilletry vhsync -f as root in a terminal
21:05.47Elive_user25k
21:05.53wasynytbut it is using framebuffer
21:05.58roxvilleand try to find your monitor
21:06.24roxvillewasynyt, huh?
21:07.03wasynytthat thing is running on mga driver. but it has enabled the vesafb
21:07.16wasynytwhich is running at 800x640
21:07.59roxvilleok
21:08.14roxvilleso maybe a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
21:08.15Elive_user25yeah the sun monitor i am using wasn't there but a comparable 17 inch was,
21:08.23Elive_user25i tried that already
21:08.38roxvilleok
21:08.51Elive_user25i'll brb gotta go pick up my daughter
21:08.59roxvillei know that Thanatermesis, elive's developer was using a matrox card for a looooong time
21:09.09roxvilleok Elive_user25
21:09.15roxvillehehe, just like me :)
21:09.53wasynytheh
21:10.05wasynytmgapdesk is a tool that could help you
21:10.18wasynytit might even be in the debian repos
21:10.33keyrawasynyt: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
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21:12.17wasynytbut now i need sleep
21:12.21wasynytgood night people
21:12.39roxvillewasynyt,  sleep tight
21:12.47wasynytand Elive_user25 i hope you can get your hardware working
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21:17.25Elive_user4_enhello
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21:21.20roxvilleBryanstein, hi
21:21.26roxvillewelcome to #elive
21:21.35Bryansteinwhat is this place
21:22.00roxvilleit's a IRC channel for users of the linux version called Elive
21:22.15Bryansteinoh what is Linux
21:22.19Elive_user25hey roxville
21:22.21Elive_user25i'm back
21:22.24Bryansteinkeyra, do you still love me
21:22.34roxvilleok Elive_user25 :)
21:22.39keyraBryanstein: yes, i love you
21:22.42Elive_user25lol
21:22.44roxvillehow old is your daughter, Elive_user25 ?
21:22.51Elive_user257
21:22.58roxvillemy daughter is 5...6 in august
21:23.00Elive_user25i'm a younger dad
21:23.10roxvillei'm an older dad :)
21:23.20Elive_user25lol
21:23.23Bryansteinmy daughter is 36
21:23.25Elive_user25good all the same
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21:23.34roxvilleyep
21:23.39BryansteinLinuxNIT, is my son from a previous marriage
21:23.47roxvilleanyway, i am not fam,iliar with the mga drivers...at all
21:23.52Bryansteinand roxville fathered two of my kids for me
21:23.53LinuxNITfuck you
21:24.05roxvilleLOL
21:24.05LinuxNITyoure not related to me
21:24.08roxvillestop it
21:24.10Bryansteinlol
21:24.19roxvilleLinuxNIT,  shame on you for using such language here
21:24.38LinuxNITyeah whatever
21:24.45LinuxNITyoure the one who always talks about sex in here
21:24.52BryansteinI ate my flinstones vitamins today
21:24.57roxvilleLinuxNIT,  Bryanstein  instead, focus your energy on helping Elive_user25 get his screen res up a bit
21:25.02Elive_user25the one thing that is truly difficult is finding others with problems that have posted on the web lol
21:25.20roxvillehehe i bet
21:25.21Elive_user25elive seems to be a small community of people using it
21:25.23BryansteinLinuxNIT, seems a little edgy..strange indeed but it is life
21:25.30LinuxNIThehe
21:25.37roxvilleThanatermesis had 3 monitors running on his matrox card, iirc
21:25.42Elive_user25WOW
21:25.44LinuxNITnah i just wanted to come into the chat room screaming and hollaring
21:25.56keyraElive_user25: woooha!
21:26.11Elive_user25i should probably change my name to something more practicl
21:26.30roxvillecould be a good idea
21:26.33Bryansteinhow about Fixbait32 or something?
21:26.38Bryansteinfishbait
21:26.39roxville/nick newnick
21:26.47Elive_user25lol
21:26.53LinuxNITcommon roxville i know youre more creative than "newnick"
21:26.58roxville/nick MatroxGuru
21:27.05LinuxNITthere ya go
21:27.06Bryansteinbooooo
21:27.14Bryansteinfishbait was mor eloquent
21:27.27fishbaithaha
21:27.28roxvilleLOL
21:27.28Bryansteinlol
21:27.30Bryansteinsee
21:27.57roxvilleok, let's get this dude off the hook...
21:28.06LinuxNIThehe
21:28.07Fishbaitlol
21:28.19LinuxNITstarts looking for a big fish to get Fishbait off the hook with
21:28.28BryansteinFishbait, now what is your issue ?
21:28.33mathmanphm tried the monitor resolution change tool in elpanel ?
21:28.39Fishbaitno
21:28.43roxvilleyes he tried it
21:28.44Fishbaitoh yeah
21:28.45Fishbaityeah i did
21:28.47LinuxNITBryanstein, isnt that obvious... hes fishbait
21:28.47Fishbaitsry
21:28.47keyramathmanp: your answer is elpanel
21:28.57roxvilleFishbait,  did you restart X after running vhsync?
21:29.01Fishbaityeah
21:29.09mathmanpkeyra, don't show your tits
21:29.12Bryansteinwell that is his first problem...too low on the food chain
21:29.19Fishbaitno wait i thought it started, it didn't
21:29.24Fishbaithow to start x
21:29.24keyramathmanp: I do how do you don't do my doyoudo when I do
21:29.42roxvilleFishbait,  i still think you'd better use vesa...
21:29.53Fishbaitk
21:29.56Fishbaitlet me switch it then
21:30.00roxvillei have no experience at all with mga or whatever
21:30.11roxvilleBryanstein,  have you tried that driver?
21:30.31Fishbaitso i should reconfigure xserver?
21:30.38Fishbaitwith vesa instead of mga,
21:30.50LinuxNITsuggests makeing a backup fo xorg.conf as the first step
21:30.50Bryansteinoh that dreaded thing...what are you using now ?
21:31.01Bryansteinseconds LinuxNIT 's motion
21:31.12LinuxNITpasses motion
21:31.14mathmanphehe, I'd try just having the desired resolution in xorg.conf first.
21:31.14Fishbaitk
21:31.30roxville<Elive_user25>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
21:31.30roxville<Elive_user25>         Device          "Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400/G450"
21:31.30roxville<Elive_user25>         Monitor         "Generic Monitor"
21:31.30roxville<Elive_user25>         DefaultDepth    24
21:32.00roxvilleFishbait,  also... lowering your color depth to 16 may improve your ability to set a higher res dramatically
21:32.02FishbaitI picked a different monitor since then
21:32.11roxvilleand with pretty good results
21:32.20Fishbaitcan i just change the value directly in xorg.conf?
21:33.18Fishbaitwait, first let me restart x lol
21:33.48Fishbaitwhat is the command to start the xserver?
21:34.13roxvilleif you are in X , ctrl+alt+backspace
21:34.20LinuxNITdid you make the backup?
21:34.40roxvillestartx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
21:35.16Bryansteinhe in irssi ?
21:35.26BryansteinFishbait, you in irssi ?
21:35.39Bryansteinman I love this PBX
21:36.56roxvilleBryanstein, please don't talk about your penile enhancement devices in here
21:37.14roxvilleenlargement
21:37.48Bryansteinsorry I can't help it...the doctor did a great job
21:38.24roxvillehehe
21:39.47roxvillebbiab, dinner
21:44.16Fishbaitk
21:44.30Fishbaitwhat is irssi?
21:44.44Fishbaiti'm in x or enlightenment, whatever you want to call it
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21:45.47FishbaitGot it
21:45.52Fishbaitit's beautiful
21:46.07FishbaitI love having to strain my eyes to look at text
21:46.09Fishbaitlol
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21:47.35Fishbaitcolor
21:48.12LinuxNITcool
21:48.16LinuxNITcongrats
21:48.23LinuxNITyippeee
21:48.55Fishbaitso how do you switch to the night scheme?
21:48.58LinuxNITbtw irssi is a terminal (text based) irc client
21:49.06Fishbaitya i figured
21:50.58Fishbaitty
21:53.47Fishbaitok
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21:54.15Elive_user65prova
21:54.30Fishbaititaliano?
21:54.37Elive_user65si ciao
21:55.04Elive_user65ho appena inst elive
21:55.23Fishbaitmamma mia che difficolta`
21:55.34Fishbaitsono un italiano in america
21:55.53Elive_user65naaa ho visto di peggio ....dove?
21:56.05Fishbaitin Connecticut
21:56.17Elive_user65lavoro?
21:56.27Fishbaitsono ancora studente
21:56.46Fishbaitanche io ho appena installato elive ma sono molta arretrato
21:57.03Fishbaitcome cazzzo si fa a cambiare il colore della letteratura?
21:57.05Elive_user65elive è semplice e molto intuitivo
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21:57.16Elive_user65letteratura?
21:57.23Fishbaitdei charateri
21:57.32Fishbaitfont color
21:57.32Fishbaitlol
21:57.50Fishbaitsono 10 anni che non vedo mia famiglia in italia
21:58.03Fishbaitla lingua si e arruginito un po
21:58.10Elive_user65ma sei di origini italiane?
21:58.20Elive_user65o ti sei trasferito?
21:58.21Fishbaitsono nato in america
21:58.27Elive_user65per studiare
21:58.28Fishbaitma cresciuto in italia
21:58.33Elive_user65ah ecco
21:58.39Fishbaitpoi a 10 anni tornato qui
21:58.56Elive_user65come si sta lì?
21:58.58Fishbaitho ancore nonni e TANTA famiglia in italia qui solo mamma e papa
21:59.13Elive_user65che regione?
21:59.19Fishbaitsi sta male adesso leconomia ci sta crepando
21:59.35Fishbaitsono da Pescara, in Abruzzo
21:59.41Elive_user65anche qui non è che la situazione è migliore
21:59.44Fishbaitmio padre da Francavilla
21:59.49Elive_user65io campano , caserta
22:00.02FishbaitBELLOO ci sono stato molto tempo fa
22:00.31Elive_user65scommetto che anche li si parla dell'immondizia
22:00.34Fishbaitok adesso si
22:00.53Fishbaite proprio uno schifo
22:01.05Elive_user65infatti
22:01.10Fishbaitio ho satellite solo per guardare la rai
22:01.19Fishbaite il calcio
22:01.37Elive_user65sei più tifoso di calcio o di football?
22:01.49Elive_user65io seguo la nfl
22:02.00Fishbaitcalcio
22:02.06Fishbaitnfl non mi interessa tanto
22:02.14Fishbaitsono Interista` da bambino
22:02.30Elive_user65allora hai QUASI vinto lo scudetto
22:02.53Fishbaitquasi, ci manca solo che perdiamo domenica
22:03.04Elive_user65no non credo
22:03.32Fishbaitsi e justo sono forti ma pero troppi infortunati
22:04.17Elive_user65si è vero.......cos'è che studi?
22:04.36Fishbaitstudio commercio eletronico
22:04.50Elive_user65college
22:04.53Fishbaitsi
22:05.14Fishbaitsto per fare il masters
22:05.45Elive_user65cavolo sto organizzando da una vita un viaggio in usa....
22:05.58Elive_user65un coast to coast
22:06.01Fishbaitadesso ti conviene
22:06.11Elive_user65con l'euro forte
22:06.17Fishbaitsi
22:06.19Fishbaitesatto
22:06.25Elive_user65vero
22:06.41Elive_user34Scusate se vi disturbo, posso chiedervi un paio di domande su elive?
22:06.53Elive_user65si
22:06.59Fishbaitcerto
22:07.24Elive_user65tieni conto che l'ho installato stasera....
22:07.31Elive_user34come faccio aggiungere un icona di avvio nella barra del desktop?
22:07.50Elive_user34io ieri sera
22:08.09Elive_user34ma non ho ancora trovato il modo per farlo
22:08.27Elive_user65anche io sto cercando di capire alcune cose....
22:08.43Elive_user34bene... allora siamo in due
22:08.47Elive_user65non mi convince del tutto
22:09.05Fishbaitsi, questo e ancore una novita` per me
22:09.05Elive_user65non è versatile come ubuntu
22:09.50Fishbaitun coast to coast
22:09.58Elive_user65già
22:10.12Elive_user34con ubuntu avevo il problema della connessione wireless, dopo alcuni minuti o ore di si sconnetteva
22:10.24Fishbaitl'unico consiglio che ti posso offrire e di portarti TANTI soldi in caso di un emergenza che qua non ci stanno piu i soldi :-)
22:10.26keyraElive_user34: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
22:10.35Elive_user34per riconnettermi dovevo riavviare il sistema
22:10.59Elive_user65stano a me capitava con red hat
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22:11.32roxvilleFishbait, so you got it running better?
22:11.36Elive_user65l'enterprise che avevo in ufficio
22:11.44Fishbaitit's beautiful now
22:12.08Elive_user65fishbait hai ragione per i soldi
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22:15.28Fishbaitbrb
22:24.10roxville<Fishbait> it's beautiful now
22:24.13roxvilleok, good :)
22:28.05Fishbaitdarn something happened
22:28.15Fishbaitnow the res is tooooooo high
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22:34.50Elive_user25the resolution is the same but my font is soooooooo tiny
22:38.40roxvillei warned you not to go to tinyfonts.com
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23:08.52Thyboany reason amsn/pidgin is not working?
23:09.04Thybo& servers say msn is workin good?
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23:28.28Thybois away: I will be back... Oh yes I will be back!!!!
23:28.35LinuxNITThybo, it works for me
23:28.36LinuxNITin pidgin
23:28.49Thybojust worked again
23:28.53Thybodunno why it wouldn't
23:28.56Thybothanks :)
23:28.59Thybogoing to bed now
23:29.01Thyboskiing tomorow :p
23:29.04Thybotake care:)
23:29.52LinuxNITskiing?
23:29.55LinuxNITtake me with you
23:29.58LinuxNITi wanna go
23:30.04LinuxNIT...
23:30.06LinuxNITlater
23:30.24Thybohehe meet you on innrain, innsbruck austria
23:30.24Thybo:p
23:30.27Thybo8am ;)
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23:37.27Fishbaitfinally my fonts are normal again!
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23:53.54Fishbaitanybody know how I can disable the screen from going to sleep while I'm idle?

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