| 00:00.00 | Thybo | :) |
| 00:00.13 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, open terminal: "su", "hebernate --suspend" |
| 00:01.08 | loner269 | Thybo: im on live cd an how do i get it an put it on the elive installed from here so i can burn it or can i? |
| 00:01.28 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, graphical instability |
| 00:01.30 | Thanatermesis | loner269, you don't have other system to download and burn a new iso ? |
| 00:01.32 | Thybo | & screen still on also |
| 00:01.39 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, ok... try this now: |
| 00:01.50 | Thybo | graphical really awfull |
| 00:01.50 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, open terminal: "su", "/etc/acpi/sleep.sh force" |
| 00:01.58 | Thybo | i got lines all over the place |
| 00:02.00 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, well, when your graphical turns more stable :) |
| 00:02.06 | Thybo | haha |
| 00:02.11 | Thybo | don't think it will |
| 00:02.11 | Thanatermesis | or... try it anyways, to see if works, |
| 00:02.15 | Thybo | y |
| 00:02.36 | Thanatermesis | ctrl + alt + F1 , ctrl + alt + F9 ? |
| 00:03.54 | loner269 | ill try what i can ill k.i.t |
| 00:08.58 | Thanatermesis | ctrl + alt + F1 , ctrl + alt + F9 ? <--- Thybo |
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| 00:14.26 | Ouch | ok |
| 00:14.35 | Thybo | %i |
| 00:14.39 | Thybo | ok |
| 00:14.44 | Thybo | so Thanatermesis, sleep worked |
| 00:14.52 | Thybo | but getting out of sleep did no |
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| 00:15.58 | Thanatermesis | with which one ? |
| 00:16.00 | Thanatermesis | the acpi one ? |
| 00:16.04 | Thanatermesis | command* |
| 00:16.14 | Thybo | hmm |
| 00:16.17 | Thybo | the last one you gave me |
| 00:16.26 | Thybo | with /etc//.... and "force" at the end |
| 00:16.30 | Thanatermesis | ok... |
| 00:16.37 | Thanatermesis | weell, if not works, its not ussefull then |
| 00:16.42 | Thybo | it did work |
| 00:16.45 | Thybo | the screen was off |
| 00:16.46 | Thybo | hehe |
| 00:16.47 | Thybo | but |
| 00:16.55 | Thybo | when coming out of "sleep".. |
| 00:17.01 | Thanatermesis | so, not works completly :) |
| 00:17.03 | Thybo | well i can't say it was a total success |
| 00:17.04 | Thanatermesis | so, not works :P |
| 00:17.05 | Thybo | but |
| 00:17.07 | Thybo | maybe |
| 00:17.17 | loner269 | lol |
| 00:17.17 | Thanatermesis | noo.. graphical restarts is a known problem on suspsend |
| 00:17.18 | Thybo | its the suspend that i did before that messed it up |
| 00:17.30 | Thybo | because i already had a grafical problems |
| 00:17.32 | Thanatermesis | and, hebernate --suspend what does ? |
| 00:17.39 | Thybo | rememember the lines i told u about |
| 00:17.47 | Thybo | hebernate does not turn screen off |
| 00:18.12 | Thanatermesis | turn off screen without suspend ? |
| 00:18.19 | Thanatermesis | do you have any error message in the terminal with it ? |
| 00:19.30 | Thybo | no i mean |
| 00:19.34 | Thybo | the computer suspend |
| 00:19.40 | Thybo | the screen is black but still lit |
| 00:19.47 | Thybo | & i dont think i had any error msges |
| 00:19.47 | Thybo | :) |
| 00:20.15 | Thanatermesis | but still what ? |
| 00:20.17 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es lit |
| 00:20.31 | Thanatermesis | if still lit, then not are suspended |
| 00:21.02 | Thanatermesis | when suspend, all the hardware "sleeps" |
| 00:21.18 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, ok, try a new one: pm-suspend --force |
| 00:22.28 | Thybo | We do not own /var/log/pm-suspend.log, refusing to overwrite. |
| 00:22.35 | Thybo | this "error" msge... |
| 00:22.36 | Thanatermesis | root |
| 00:22.38 | Thybo | & screen still lit |
| 00:22.41 | Thybo | i was root :) |
| 00:22.51 | Thybo | [root /home/Ghost]# pm-suspend --force |
| 00:22.52 | Thybo | We do not own /var/log/pm-suspend.log, refusing to overwrite. |
| 00:23.01 | Thanatermesis | what about without --force ? |
| 00:24.09 | Thybo | same |
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| 00:24.41 | loner269 | hi roxville |
| 00:24.52 | Thybo | hello roxville ;) |
| 00:24.53 | loner269 | hows u? |
| 00:28.20 | Thybo | is now gonno go to sleep |
| 00:28.31 | Thybo | hugs Thanatermesis & wishes him buena suerte :) |
| 00:28.38 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, i dont know ! try to searchin in google how to susppend your laptop and tell me ;) |
| 00:28.45 | Thanatermesis | i need to reboot now :) |
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| 00:35.32 | Theoden | is listening to - 05Gustav Mahler 02- Symphony No.2 In C Minor - "Resurrection" - 5. attacca Im Tempo des Scherzo. Wild herausfordernd 03- Rafael Kubelik - Berlin Philharmonic |
| 00:37.47 | Thybo | is away: I will be back... Oh yes I will be back!!!! |
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| 01:11.25 | roxville | loner269, Thybo hi guys! |
| 01:11.55 | roxville | sorry for being away so much... i have busy season right now |
| 01:13.07 | loner269 | its cool |
| 01:13.20 | loner269 | good to see your doing good |
| 01:18.33 | roxville | thx :) |
| 01:19.14 | roxville | i'm gonna restart x , brb |
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| 01:20.39 | loner269 | wb |
| 01:20.41 | loner269 | lol |
| 01:25.52 | roxville | thx :) |
| 01:27.30 | roxville | loner269, how are you doing, bud? |
| 01:28.15 | loner269 | im ok jus got gem installed an sound workin but no wireless |
| 01:28.29 | keyra | loner269: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 01:31.01 | roxville | yeah, that's the reason why many prefer the dev release now |
| 01:42.02 | loner269 | i saw them talkin about 1.7.2 had a hdspin down thing thay said it was a bad thing so i dont want to try it lol |
| 01:46.50 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, when you wake up, do a new upgrade and try again all the suspend tests |
| 01:46.55 | Thanatermesis | after rebot |
| 01:47.27 | DaRtH_VaDeR | Thanatermesis, hello!!! i have received 14 mails for the elive group!! everybody is in love with the videos xDD |
| 01:47.46 | DaRtH_VaDeR | but are sad cuz they cant download gem... =// |
| 01:47.54 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, what videos ? |
| 01:48.05 | DaRtH_VaDeR | youtube videos about elive |
| 01:48.36 | DaRtH_VaDeR | btw, the wizardpen driver is gpl :p |
| 01:49.46 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, what one ? the "elive gem" ? |
| 01:49.54 | DaRtH_VaDeR | yes |
| 01:50.04 | Thanatermesis | wizardpen ? what device is ? |
| 01:50.11 | DaRtH_VaDeR | tablet pen |
| 01:50.27 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, then, why is not in the linux kernel ? or it should enter soon ? |
| 01:50.28 | DaRtH_VaDeR | is like a wacom but genius |
| 01:50.37 | DaRtH_VaDeR | i dont think so :S |
| 01:50.48 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, so, who has send you 14 emails ? i don't understand |
| 01:50.49 | Thanatermesis | why not ? |
| 01:50.49 | DaRtH_VaDeR | and i dont know why =// |
| 01:50.59 | DaRtH_VaDeR | Thanatermesis, people from the group |
| 01:51.17 | DaRtH_VaDeR | Thanatermesis, because the driver is since 2005 |
| 01:52.52 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, what group ? |
| 01:53.10 | DaRtH_VaDeR | elive group from facebook xdd |
| 01:53.20 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, then i don't understand the reason of why is not on the linux kernel and/or debian drivers packages |
| 01:53.32 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, oh, very good then! seems like to attract new ppl :) |
| 01:53.49 | DaRtH_VaDeR | is packed for fedora but not for debian :S |
| 01:56.35 | Thanatermesis | hummm |
| 01:56.43 | Thanatermesis | fedora seems like to have good drivers support |
| 01:57.16 | DaRtH_VaDeR | yes =// |
| 01:58.23 | roxville | <loner269> i saw them talkin about 1.7.2 had a hdspin down thing thay said it was a bad thing so i dont want to try it lol |
| 01:58.33 | roxville | that can easily be turned off |
| 01:58.45 | roxville | via elpanel daemons manager |
| 01:59.29 | loner269 | really? |
| 01:59.35 | loner269 | ya know how i worrie |
| 01:59.37 | loner269 | lol |
| 01:59.55 | loner269 | so its safe to use then? |
| 02:02.10 | Thanatermesis | what about wifi support in fedora, DaRtH_VaDeR ? |
| 02:02.24 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 02:02.39 | DaRtH_VaDeR | i dont know, i dont have wi fi |
| 02:02.46 | DaRtH_VaDeR | =// |
| 02:03.11 | roxville | yes loner269 it is safe |
| 02:03.33 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, do you are on fedora now ? |
| 02:04.00 | loner269 | ok ill have to try to get it |
| 02:04.03 | loner269 | lol |
| 02:04.03 | DaRtH_VaDeR | no =// |
| 02:04.46 | Thanatermesis | DaRtH_VaDeR, give me a ssh to a fedora when you can, i want to made a look at the kernel ;) |
| 02:05.31 | DaRtH_VaDeR | Thanatermesis, ok tomorrow i'll connect from fedora ^^ |
| 02:05.48 | Thanatermesis | ok :) |
| 02:05.51 | DaRtH_VaDeR | now is time to get drunk, so bye bye people!! |
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| 04:13.00 | Wizard | hiho! |
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| 05:20.38 | Wizard | boo |
| 05:22.37 | Begasus | meep |
| 05:22.47 | loner269 | yo |
| 05:26.38 | Wizard | hmm.. |
| 05:26.51 | Wizard | i bought a buitar yesterday \o/ |
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| 05:28.58 | Wizard | guitar* :P |
| 05:29.02 | Wizard | bah |
| 05:29.07 | Wizard | another boring day |
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| 05:31.23 | *** topic/#elive is BUGS: use http://bugs.elivecd.org to report things, to talk about Development releases use the MailingList || E17 is updated on the development versions, but stills inusable right now, you be warned! || eltrans is the new translator tool for Elive and E17 (ask keyra), you are WELCOME to translate Elive in a fast and easy way |
| 05:31.42 | Wizard | apt quit! |
| 05:31.42 | apt | No! You quit! |
| 05:31.46 | Wizard | impossible |
| 05:31.49 | Wizard | apt: get out |
| 05:31.50 | apt | ACTION fetches out |
| 05:32.08 | Wizard | :S |
| 05:34.43 | Begasus | np .. not directly related to me ... |
| 05:34.54 | mefu | oh |
| 05:35.04 | mefu | did you know them well? |
| 05:40.48 | Begasus | it's the mother of my sister in law |
| 05:41.04 | mefu | ahh |
| 05:41.07 | mefu | gotcha |
| 05:41.11 | Begasus | ;) |
| 05:41.57 | Wizard | hmm |
| 05:47.16 | Wizard | did anybody install open slowlaris? |
| 05:53.21 | Begasus | nope ... just did a install of xubuntu on the kids pc though ;) |
| 05:56.38 | Wizard | :/ |
| 05:57.09 | Wizard | bah, i don't have much to do today |
| 05:57.26 | Wizard | i'm gonna test it in vm |
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| 09:40.24 | AlexAnteMachina | elooo |
| 09:40.38 | Wizard | hi |
| 09:41.24 | AlexAnteMachina | ellooo Wizard |
| 09:41.35 | Wizard | :) |
| 09:41.44 | Wizard | what's up? |
| 09:42.18 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm right back from the forest |
| 09:42.25 | Wizard | cool |
| 09:42.31 | Wizard | i'm at work |
| 09:42.41 | Wizard | trying out opensolaris |
| 09:42.56 | AlexAnteMachina | öpensöläris |
| 09:43.18 | Wizard | oÅpensolaris |
| 09:43.22 | AlexAnteMachina | got a french accent today. |
| 09:43.25 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 09:43.46 | Wizard | opensolahriz? |
| 09:44.00 | AlexAnteMachina | so, whats special in Solaris? |
| 09:44.10 | AlexAnteMachina | never tried it. |
| 09:44.40 | Wizard | that it is one of few commercial unix which survived unix wars in 90' |
| 09:45.00 | AlexAnteMachina | so why not using anything else? |
| 09:45.09 | AlexAnteMachina | why especially solaris? |
| 09:45.19 | Wizard | and along with HP-UX and AIX it is the most popular commercial unix |
| 09:45.26 | Wizard | used on many servers in many places |
| 09:45.32 | AlexAnteMachina | ah! |
| 09:45.48 | Wizard | and.. it's one of my favourite os |
| 09:45.52 | AlexAnteMachina | but servers can be run on any other OS as well. |
| 09:45.56 | Wizard | yeah |
| 09:45.59 | Wizard | you decide |
| 09:46.11 | Wizard | you can even set up www server on win98 |
| 09:46.17 | Wizard | but that is not wise idea |
| 09:47.00 | Wizard | basically, Sun released Solaris code and started Project Indiana, hirind Ian Murdock, founder of Debian |
| 09:47.01 | AlexAnteMachina | but www on BASIC would rock! |
| 09:47.06 | Wizard | hiring* |
| 09:47.14 | keyra | Wizard: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 09:47.41 | Wizard | and.. Project Indiana released first stable version, OpenSolaris 2008.05 |
| 09:47.49 | Wizard | it was few days ago |
| 09:48.11 | Wizard | what is it? from my point of view, yet another unix clone, this time based on Solaris |
| 09:48.47 | Wizard | but it's rare, it's rock-solid, it's beautiful, magical and unbelivably.. fast |
| 09:49.23 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. i beleive it. |
| 09:49.37 | Wizard | you know, i was allways anti-linux |
| 09:49.51 | AlexAnteMachina | why? |
| 09:50.05 | AlexAnteMachina | and pro what? |
| 09:50.06 | Wizard | linux is poor |
| 09:50.27 | AlexAnteMachina | poor? |
| 09:50.33 | Wizard | yeah |
| 09:50.43 | AlexAnteMachina | ??? |
| 09:50.47 | Wizard | and i don't like it |
| 09:50.52 | Wizard | those distro mess |
| 09:52.20 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... if you look at it from the aspect of biological evolution it's very normal having such a mess. Especially when a new branch/race is startign to develope. |
| 09:53.02 | AlexAnteMachina | by time it will get less messed up and form up to only a few but very good systems. |
| 09:53.12 | Wizard | yeah, problem starts when somenthing wants to be compat with all distros |
| 09:53.13 | AlexAnteMachina | each one for special purposes. |
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| 10:28.40 | haha | hello |
| 10:29.06 | Wizard | hello haha |
| 10:31.03 | haha | silence |
| 10:34.07 | haha | hm, bye |
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| 10:55.39 | kqrl | i have a kernel package i compiled, and i just wonder how to install it... i read a guide for debian, and that involved dpkg, but dpkg complains about me lacking gnome :P any ideas? (i don't have internet on the elive install, so i collect all ideas now and then reboot :P) |
| 10:55.53 | keyra | kqrl: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 10:56.40 | Wizard | kqrl: lol, you compiled kernel and made a deb from it? |
| 10:57.19 | LinuxNIT | Wizard, nothing wierd about that... lots of people do it when compiling a kernel... alowas for easy install and removal. |
| 10:57.22 | kqrl | Wizard: something like that yes :P got any better suggestion? ^^ |
| 10:57.38 | LinuxNIT | weird thing is its wanting gnoem |
| 10:57.44 | Wizard | why does it want gnome? |
| 10:57.56 | LinuxNIT | what is the error? |
| 10:58.12 | kqrl | Wizard && LinuxNIT: hmm, not sure, i just realised i didn't save the output >:( |
| 10:58.30 | LinuxNIT | are you in linux right now? |
| 10:58.40 | kqrl | yes, in fedora... on the other disk |
| 10:58.49 | LinuxNIT | same computer? |
| 10:58.52 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: yes |
| 10:59.04 | LinuxNIT | is the elive partition mounted? |
| 10:59.18 | kqrl | i can mount it if you want (: |
| 10:59.21 | LinuxNIT | if not mount it and then chroot the mount point |
| 10:59.43 | kqrl | aha and then? |
| 10:59.55 | LinuxNIT | you can tell it to install again... get out put fix deps etc |
| 11:00.20 | kqrl | i didn't get the last :P |
| 11:01.22 | LinuxNIT | which part? |
| 11:01.34 | LinuxNIT | how to chroot? or how to install? |
| 11:02.04 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: how to chroot a mount point i don't know, and the install again part i don't even know what you mean :P |
| 11:02.22 | LinuxNIT | do you know what chrooting is? |
| 11:03.27 | kqrl | uh-oh, no i don't :P i took it for chmod at first :P |
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| 11:04.25 | LinuxNIT | chroot is changing root... it changes what you are using for your / .... in other words it gives you control over a system other than what you are currently running on |
| 11:04.40 | LinuxNIT | chroot /path/to/mounted-elive |
| 11:04.42 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:04.52 | kqrl | aha |
| 11:05.30 | LinuxNIT | then you can tell it to install the kernel from that terminal |
| 11:05.37 | kqrl | i remember doing that when i tried to install gentoo earlier :P |
| 11:05.44 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 11:06.01 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: won't the install then be for the environment i am in now? or is that environmental part over? :P |
| 11:06.44 | LinuxNIT | if you chrooted then the / is nolonger / but /mounted/elive/path so all the files go into /mounted/elive/path |
| 11:07.05 | LinuxNIT | Wizard, do you have any recommendations for a good reliable external drive? |
| 11:07.22 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 11:07.36 | Wizard | uh |
| 11:07.38 | Wizard | impossible |
| 11:07.46 | Wizard | what path did you use? |
| 11:08.03 | kqrl | /mnt/tempmt1/ where my elive is installed :/ |
| 11:08.12 | kqrl | oh |
| 11:08.22 | kqrl | hmm |
| 11:08.26 | kqrl | clearly not my elive :P |
| 11:08.30 | Wizard | :D |
| 11:08.39 | kqrl | must be my usb-stick or something :P |
| 11:08.56 | LinuxNIT | run mount to see where it is mounted |
| 11:09.35 | kqrl | ah, it was sdb, not sda ^^ |
| 11:09.58 | kqrl | sda1 was the /boot of this fedora xD |
| 11:10.22 | kqrl | ok, the chrooting seems to have gone fine (: |
| 11:10.58 | kqrl | problem is it shows white text on white background xD |
| 11:11.08 | kqrl | *tries to remember console colour code* |
| 11:11.12 | keyra | kqrl: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 11:11.14 | LinuxNIT | go to your terminal properties and change the bg |
| 11:11.26 | keyra | kqrl: See that http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 11:11.34 | LinuxNIT | keyra, shutup |
| 11:11.38 | kqrl | xD |
| 11:11.48 | keyra | LinuxNIT: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis |
| 11:11.58 | LinuxNIT | now you should have dpkg command at your disposal |
| 11:12.12 | LinuxNIT | along with internet connection ;) |
| 11:12.23 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: oh, sometimes i just love linux (: |
| 11:12.29 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 11:13.24 | kqrl | hmm |
| 11:13.29 | kqrl | though my home isn't mounted xD |
| 11:13.37 | kqrl | and i can't access fdisk :P |
| 11:13.40 | kqrl | cannot open /proc/partitions |
| 11:16.19 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: wait.. when i have this kind of connection to the elive-disk, isn't there any easier way to install the 2.6.24-kernel (or newer)? |
| 11:16.33 | LinuxNIT | in a different terminal (outside the chroot) mount -o bind /proc /path/to/mounted-elive/proc |
| 11:16.33 | keyra | kqrl: you don't know how install Elive ? honey... is not that hard... |
| 11:17.11 | LinuxNIT | well really all you should have to do is download it reboot into elive and install the kernel... ihave never seen a kerenl complain about not haveing gnome |
| 11:17.26 | keyra | LinuxNIT: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 11:18.24 | LinuxNIT | you could apt-get one from here too |
| 11:18.47 | kqrl | debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome |
| 11:18.48 | kqrl | debconf: (DISPLAY problem?) |
| 11:18.48 | kqrl | debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog |
| 11:18.58 | kqrl | first output looking no-good |
| 11:18.59 | LinuxNIT | not a problem |
| 11:19.09 | kqrl | ok |
| 11:19.23 | kqrl | well see if there comes more of them :P |
| 11:19.26 | kqrl | did last time ^^ |
| 11:19.31 | LinuxNIT | just means its not useing a fancy gtk gui to display things |
| 11:19.49 | kqrl | hmm |
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| 11:19.52 | kqrl | well... |
| 11:19.59 | kqrl | looks fine in that case |
| 11:20.09 | kqrl | maybe i just over-reacted on those errors last time xD |
| 11:20.14 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 11:20.47 | LinuxNIT | is the computer booting to elives grub or fedoras? |
| 11:21.11 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: elives |
| 11:21.16 | LinuxNIT | good |
| 11:22.02 | loner269 | hih nit how you doing ok thats all lol night ill be on later today |
| 11:22.07 | LinuxNIT | make sure there is info for booting the new kernel in elvies /boot/grub/menu.lst and you should be good |
| 11:22.25 | LinuxNIT | lol... doing good loner269 cya later |
| 11:23.03 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: hmm, just realised i can fix the menu.lst while you're here :P |
| 11:23.21 | LinuxNIT | is it not right? |
| 11:23.30 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: don't know, i'll see that :P |
| 11:25.56 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: well... the only elive-option is the old kernel ;P |
| 11:26.26 | LinuxNIT | are you looking at the right grub menu? fedoras or elvies? |
| 11:26.42 | kqrl | elive's ; |
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| 11:26.56 | kqrl | fedoras does only contain fedora and a broken windows (the disk isn't connected) |
| 11:27.09 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 11:27.34 | LinuxNIT | the kernel finished installint with no errors? |
| 11:28.07 | kqrl | seems like |
| 11:28.19 | kqrl | and the kernel is in /boot |
| 11:28.30 | kqrl | so i add a place in menu.lst for the new kernel right now |
| 11:28.36 | LinuxNIT | right |
| 11:29.01 | LinuxNIT | just copy elives current one and change the kernel and initd names to match the new one |
| 11:29.18 | LinuxNIT | maker sure that the word "single" is NOT in the kernel line ;) |
| 11:29.19 | kqrl | i am (: |
| 11:29.23 | kqrl | xD |
| 11:29.39 | kqrl | ok i'll reboot and try it now (: |
| 11:29.46 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 11:29.49 | LinuxNIT | have fun |
| 11:30.12 | kqrl | hehe thanx :P |
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| 11:36.42 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: well... 'cept for a misspelling of mine, it got somewhere, but then as soon as it showed the output of initrd, the screen went black using the new kernel... |
| 11:37.14 | LinuxNIT | did it finish booting? |
| 11:37.30 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: what do you mean? i can't be sure, for i didn't see a thing ;P |
| 11:37.53 | LinuxNIT | was the hd still working? |
| 11:37.56 | LinuxNIT | did you hit esc? |
| 11:38.26 | kqrl | i waited till the hdd stopped working, that took a little while, is that a sign of completed booting? |
| 11:38.34 | kqrl | and no, i did not press esc |
| 11:39.23 | LinuxNIT | either completed boot up or a stall |
| 11:41.08 | LinuxNIT | what are your kernel options? |
| 11:42.29 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: http://pastebin.com/m269e3300 |
| 11:42.45 | kqrl | i know of the x, i have fixed that :P |
| 11:42.50 | kqrl | the x in vmlinux :P |
| 11:43.22 | LinuxNIT | that would definately be a problem |
| 11:43.46 | LinuxNIT | 25? |
| 11:43.53 | LinuxNIT | i thought you said it was 24 |
| 11:43.59 | kqrl | uh |
| 11:44.01 | kqrl | hmm |
| 11:44.25 | LinuxNIT | check the directory |
| 11:44.32 | LinuxNIT | see what it is labled |
| 11:44.43 | kqrl | http://pastebin.com/m6bf04e06 |
| 11:44.53 | kqrl | i went after that while editing |
| 11:45.08 | LinuxNIT | ok 25 is right |
| 11:45.28 | LinuxNIT | try again |
| 11:45.41 | kqrl | try what? |
| 11:45.46 | LinuxNIT | now that you have the vmlinuz fixed |
| 11:45.49 | LinuxNIT | rebooting |
| 11:45.50 | kqrl | ok |
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| 11:52.53 | LinuxNIT | did it work kqrl ? |
| 11:53.02 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: hmm, it is the vga=791 part that is making the screen black, but without it i get no graphics at all ^^ |
| 11:53.18 | LinuxNIT | text based bootup? |
| 11:53.23 | kqrl | yes |
| 11:53.28 | LinuxNIT | does it fully boot? |
| 11:53.32 | kqrl | yes |
| 11:53.35 | LinuxNIT | good |
| 11:53.49 | LinuxNIT | mission accomplished |
| 11:53.58 | kqrl | hehe |
| 11:56.21 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: is vga=791 maybe something specific to the elive-kernel? |
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| 11:56.52 | LinuxNIT | its probaly something to do with the bootsplash program setup or something |
| 11:57.04 | LinuxNIT | i dont know much about that stuff cause honestly.. i never really cared |
| 11:57.16 | LinuxNIT | i actually like to watch it boot up so i can see what its doing |
| 11:57.42 | kqrl | what do you mean? |
| 11:57.57 | LinuxNIT | on which part? |
| 11:58.06 | kqrl | problem is without the vga-part i get text-based login as well, and no graphics at all ;P |
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| 12:06.22 | kqrl | well i'll try vga=ask and see what happens :P |
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| 12:22.17 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: actually, i think the screen going black does so because the nvidia driver is old :/ |
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| 12:22.44 | LinuxNIT | youre getting a text login? |
| 12:22.57 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: yes, yes |
| 12:23.03 | LinuxNIT | and X wont start? |
| 12:23.09 | kqrl | exactly |
| 12:23.13 | kqrl | complains about nvidia ;) |
| 12:23.31 | LinuxNIT | yes your driver is probably not compatible with the new kernel... youll need to install a new one |
| 12:23.56 | kqrl | hmm but... i lack internet driver, it seems, even with the newer kernel |
| 12:24.10 | LinuxNIT | wired or wireless? |
| 12:24.15 | kqrl | the driver should be included in kernel version 2.6.22 and newer |
| 12:24.16 | kqrl | wired |
| 12:24.23 | LinuxNIT | what module? |
| 12:24.24 | keyra | LinuxNIT: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 12:24.35 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: atl1 |
| 12:25.09 | LinuxNIT | lsmod | grep atl1 |
| 12:25.58 | kqrl | on this install or the elive one? |
| 12:26.13 | kqrl | for i tried lsmod on elive, but that gave NO output at all... >.< |
| 12:32.00 | LinuxNIT | oh are you not in elive |
| 12:32.10 | kqrl | nope |
| 12:32.16 | kqrl | no internet, you know ;P |
| 12:32.22 | LinuxNIT | well then in elive... modprobe atl1 |
| 12:32.24 | LinuxNIT | as root |
| 12:32.31 | kqrl | ok (: |
| 12:32.36 | LinuxNIT | it should not give any output |
| 12:32.38 | kqrl | anything more i need to know before rebooting? |
| 12:32.42 | LinuxNIT | check if it pobled with lsmod |
| 12:32.48 | LinuxNIT | *probed |
| 12:33.01 | LinuxNIT | if it did then you should have it in ifconfig |
| 12:33.09 | kqrl | ok thanks (: |
| 12:33.12 | kqrl | i'll try |
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| 12:38.56 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: nope, it says module atl1 not found :/ |
| 12:39.09 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 12:39.26 | LinuxNIT | what card? |
| 12:40.14 | kqrl | it's integrated on my asus P5L VM-1394 motherboard |
| 12:40.38 | kqrl | name i think attansic L1 gigabit ethernet |
| 12:45.31 | LinuxNIT | lspci output for that device? |
| 12:46.26 | kqrl | 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) |
| 12:51.28 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 12:52.10 | LinuxNIT | where did you get the kernel from? |
| 12:52.15 | kqrl | kernel.org |
| 12:52.22 | LinuxNIT | you compiled it? |
| 12:52.26 | kqrl | yep |
| 12:52.33 | LinuxNIT | maybe you left out the driver then |
| 12:52.36 | kqrl | but actually i'm thinking of installing arch instead ^^ |
| 12:52.42 | LinuxNIT | root@Elive-desktop[/home/david]# modprobe -l | grep atl |
| 12:52.42 | LinuxNIT | /lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/drivers/input/misc/atlas_btns.ko |
| 12:52.43 | LinuxNIT | /lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/atl1/atl1.ko |
| 12:52.43 | LinuxNIT | root@Elive-desktop[/home/david]# |
| 12:52.52 | LinuxNIT | thats on a default debian kernel |
| 12:52.53 | LinuxNIT | its in there |
| 12:52.57 | kqrl | hmm |
| 12:53.25 | LinuxNIT | honeslty you probably just didnt check the right box :- |
| 12:53.27 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 12:53.32 | kqrl | hmm |
| 12:53.47 | kqrl | actually, there was too many options, so i just kept return pressed xD |
| 12:54.17 | LinuxNIT | LOL |
| 12:54.48 | kqrl | well i think i'll just try arch until the latest testing of elive is stable ;) |
| 12:55.16 | LinuxNIT | do you still have gem installed? |
| 12:56.08 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: yes |
| 12:56.21 | kqrl | LinuxNIT: or, what do you mean? |
| 12:56.34 | LinuxNIT | well what is the newest kernel in etch? |
| 12:56.54 | kqrl | don't know |
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| 12:57.29 | LinuxNIT | chroot it again and do an apt-cache search linux image |
| 12:58.07 | kqrl | well... i think i'll wait, arch is tempting too (: |
| 12:58.12 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 12:58.20 | kqrl | brb phone |
| 13:00.35 | LinuxNIT | looks like you would have to use a back port image to install 2.6.22 on etch |
| 13:00.45 | kqrl | bak |
| 13:00.47 | kqrl | back* |
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| 13:01.59 | kqrl | but thanks a lot for your help, LinuxNIT... even if i didn't reach my goal i've learnt ALOT on the way there (: |
| 13:02.30 | LinuxNIT | youre welcome |
| 13:02.37 | kqrl | (: |
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| 17:40.48 | Elive_user81_de | whats mainspeech? german or english? |
| 17:43.14 | Elive_user81_de | oh all cuul peopel ... |
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| 18:16.54 | X3n0n | Elive_user81_de: mainspeech is english..i guess :) |
| 18:17.13 | X3n0n | hi all, elmo40_, Thybo :) |
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| 19:05.59 | AlexAnteMachina | hi everybody! |
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| 19:57.33 | AlexAnteMachina | elloooo! |
| 19:57.42 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard, ? |
| 19:57.46 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, ? |
| 19:57.49 | AlexAnteMachina | roxville, ? |
| 19:57.58 | AlexAnteMachina | one alive in here? |
| 19:58.06 | AlexAnteMachina | Or am I alone? |
| 19:58.14 | AlexAnteMachina | All alone.....? |
| 19:58.20 | AlexAnteMachina | Alone in the Dark? |
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| 20:40.59 | Dartho | Thanatermesis: i'm on fedora ready for the ssh :p |
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| 22:00.00 | wsk | yeah im still alive ;) |
| 22:00.49 | xthakila | ok |
| 22:02.04 | AlexAnteMachina | wooha! |
| 22:02.20 | AlexAnteMachina | a living human being! |
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| 22:50.16 | Thybo | is back (gone 00:02:31) |
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| 23:02.14 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, pong |
| 23:07.31 | Thybo | hey Thanatermesis ;) |
| 23:07.34 | Thybo | what up?:) |
| 23:07.38 | Thybo | was in italy today :p |
| 23:12.31 | Thanatermesis | just back there :) |
| 23:13.18 | Thybo | :) |
| 23:13.48 | Thybo | saw the acpi updates u made :-) |
| 23:13.55 | Thybo | did not try it yet |
| 23:14.42 | Thanatermesis | yes, i have update them :) |
| 23:14.45 | Thanatermesis | try it when you can |
| 23:14.52 | Thanatermesis | its possible that solve your screen problem |
| 23:15.09 | Elive_user31_de | in german we say yes |
| 23:15.18 | Thybo | ja :) |
| 23:15.40 | Thybo | Thanatermesis, can u see the file i'm sending? |
| 23:16.01 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, no, i can't receive, open your ports |
| 23:16.09 | Thybo | hmm |
| 23:16.11 | Thybo | don't control |
| 23:16.15 | Thybo | universiy connection |
| 23:16.15 | Thybo | :p |
| 23:16.35 | Thybo | imageshack in a sec |
| 23:16.40 | Elive_user31_de | survivre |
| 23:17.16 | Thybo | http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2350/screenthanauf9.jpg |
| 23:17.25 | Thybo | here it is |
| 23:17.32 | Thybo | its the issue with the tray |
| 23:17.56 | Thanatermesis | whats wrong ? |
| 23:18.08 | Thanatermesis | apart the quality of the jpeg :) |
| 23:18.13 | Thybo | hmm |
| 23:18.14 | Thybo | haha |
| 23:18.15 | Thybo | well |
| 23:18.18 | Thybo | behind skype |
| 23:18.23 | Thybo | u have yellow |
| 23:18.30 | Thybo | that is because the xnotes was there previously |
| 23:18.33 | Thybo | behind opera |
| 23:18.37 | Thybo | u have the amsn icon |
| 23:18.39 | Thybo | behind amsn |
| 23:18.44 | Thybo | u have amsn new mail |
| 23:18.46 | Thybo | but otherwise |
| 23:18.49 | Thybo | its all fine :) |
| 23:19.02 | Thybo | its not a functionality problem just a fine tune up thing:) |
| 23:19.49 | Dartho | Thanatermesis: i'm on fedora :P |
| 23:19.52 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, well, tray systems aparently not are perfect, this one at least looks to work pretty well... and we need a e17 tray module, that's not a module |
| 23:19.58 | Thanatermesis | i mean, that's a temporal trayer |
| 23:20.06 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, ok, im here now :) |
| 23:20.10 | Dartho | if you need something tell me now cuz i will unistall it today |
| 23:20.19 | Thanatermesis | oh |
| 23:20.25 | Thanatermesis | yes, give me ssh that i look at the kernel things |
| 23:20.26 | Dartho | i'm sick of rpm =// |
| 23:20.33 | Dartho | how is that ? |
| 23:20.37 | Dartho | i have no idea :D |
| 23:20.48 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 23:20.53 | Thanatermesis | see if you can: /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 23:21.22 | Dartho | nop =// |
| 23:21.30 | Dartho | file doesnt exist |
| 23:21.33 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, do you have the command "tree" ? |
| 23:22.18 | Dartho | yes |
| 23:22.31 | Dartho | mm is sshd is the same ? |
| 23:22.35 | Thanatermesis | ok, then do: tree /lib/modules > mytree.txt |
| 23:22.40 | Thanatermesis | and send me the file mytree.txt |
| 23:23.05 | Thanatermesis | maybe.. but don't worry, i have sufficient with the tree :) |
| 23:23.08 | Thanatermesis | wait, do also: |
| 23:23.17 | Thanatermesis | tree /lib/firmware >> mytree.txt |
| 23:23.58 | Thanatermesis | you can't send too :P |
| 23:24.11 | Dartho | damn portsd |
| 23:24.18 | Dartho | i have configured on debian |
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| 23:27.03 | Thanatermesis | nope |
| 23:27.21 | Dartho | damn the port is now open and still doesnt work |
| 23:27.56 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, edit the fiel and use pastebin |
| 23:28.06 | Dartho | ok |
| 23:30.08 | Dartho | http://rafb.net/p/bI7tBK33.html |
| 23:31.52 | Thanatermesis | .25 ? they are fast with kernels |
| 23:32.09 | Dartho | yes |
| 23:32.12 | Dartho | :þ |
| 23:32.20 | Dartho | and in rawhide they have .26 |
| 23:32.46 | Dartho | http://rafb.net/p/Mt8x3f94.html |
| 23:33.50 | Thanatermesis | .26 ? |
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| 23:35.02 | Dartho | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora |
| 23:35.13 | Dartho | yep, that is what distrowatch says ^^ |
| 23:36.17 | JumpNMustang | Hi, |
| 23:36.30 | JumpNMustang | anyone know when the next installable release is? |
| 23:36.47 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, well, its ok, you can remove it now (lol) :) |
| 23:36.55 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustang, soon! |
| 23:37.25 | Dartho | Thanatermesis: i'm going to install gem... finally i left revolution xD |
| 23:37.49 | JumpNMustang | ok, because 1.7.2 works great on my machine and I would like to install it. The stable version seems to not work at all. |
| 23:38.35 | Dartho | will be very bad to have elive with sid repos ? :P |
| 23:38.49 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustang, well, there's a installer soon, if you need to install Elive you can try to use this future beta installer, between waiting tests for the release that has a installer |
| 23:39.03 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, yes, very very bad |
| 23:39.38 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, i can recommend you to install a last dev instead Gem (just because you can see more changes interesting ;)) |
| 23:40.02 | Dartho | mmmm interesting |
| 23:40.12 | Dartho | and it has a beta installer ? |
| 23:40.16 | JumpNMustang | sorry did you have a link in that sentence? |
| 23:40.31 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, not yet, but is supposed to have it soon! for when you need it ? |
| 23:40.40 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustang, link of what ? |
| 23:40.44 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustang, installer ? |
| 23:40.45 | Dartho | as soon as possible :P |
| 23:40.51 | JumpNMustang | I don't have an immediate need.:-) I am on Knoppix's poormans install. |
| 23:41.16 | Thanatermesis | poormans install lol |
| 23:41.32 | JumpNMustang | :-) yeah.. allows me to take out the cd. |
| 23:41.34 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, well, i can't tell you a date... but is supposed to be soon, in any case less than a week (i hope!) |
| 23:41.46 | Dartho | excellent |
| 23:42.23 | JumpNMustang | I like elive's eyecandy, and I was able to load my BCM43xx driver on it. Really suprised me. |
| 23:43.22 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustang, on 1.7.2 right ? |
| 23:43.41 | JumpNMustang | yes. |
| 23:44.00 | Thanatermesis | then, you have see that nice bcm43xx suite menu in the boot process ? :) |
| 23:44.07 | JumpNMustang | I could not get 1.0 to work, and 1.7.2 was the only other one I tried since the 1.0 release. |
| 23:44.16 | JumpNMustang | yes, |
| 23:44.23 | Thanatermesis | nice |
| 23:44.29 | JumpNMustang | gives me a nice warning at the same time. |
| 23:44.41 | Thanatermesis | do you have tried all the options available of use the driver to see if all them works ? |
| 23:45.10 | JumpNMustang | I don't know, is there a list I can peek at? |
| 23:45.29 | JumpNMustang | I know the wireless detector works. |
| 23:45.32 | Thanatermesis | well, it allow you to choice between native linux drivers and use ndiswrapper if im not wrong |
| 23:45.44 | keyra | JumpNMustang: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 23:45.47 | Thanatermesis | loading the drivers with ndiswrapper from windows partitions i think |
| 23:46.06 | JumpNMustang | oh YES:-) I had a choice, but I didn't load the windows one, because the linux one worked out of the box so far. |
| 23:46.27 | JumpNMustang | I figure I was lucky .. |
| 23:46.59 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustang, well, that's the good choice in any case :) (the linux one) |
| 23:47.17 | JumpNMustang | Yeah I don't like the idea of depending on windows. |
| 23:47.24 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustang, but if you try the other option, tell me if not works |
| 23:47.32 | Thanatermesis | its pretty unstable too |
| 23:47.46 | JumpNMustang | oh, sure if you want a test I can do it for ya. |
| 23:48.08 | Thanatermesis | ok, thanks :) |
| 23:48.58 | JumpNMustang | So far I just need to get my sprint card working. I have yet to test it really. |
| 23:49.58 | JumpNMustang | I'll test it now just for kicks you going to be here? |
| 23:50.14 | Thanatermesis | sprint card ? |
| 23:50.24 | Thanatermesis | yes, i still here :) |
| 23:50.45 | JumpNMustang | well, maybe. I want to test the ndiswrapper |
| 23:50.57 | JumpNMustang | the sprint card if ndiswrapper don't work. |
| 23:51.05 | JumpNMustang | ok bbiab |
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| 23:56.53 | Thanatermesis | Dartho, you can install Elive 1.7.4 but you need to promise me to report ANY thing that you see ! :) |
| 23:57.06 | Dartho | sure!!! |
