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| 00:03.09 | JumpNMustang | ok, neither worked. |
| 00:04.49 | JumpNMustang | As a matter of fact it recommended not to use it at boot. (Ndiswrapper I mean) The commands to initialize the sprint card were not recognized. Ever hear of modprobe? or lsusb? |
| 00:10.20 | JumpNMustang | oh and when you see my messages there is another thing I would like to pick your brain about if you don't mind Thanatermesis. |
| 00:10.24 | Thanatermesis | strange... it should add the driver, but maybe without reboot doesn't works (a thing not very possible on livecd mode) |
| 00:11.11 | JumpNMustang | I suppose it could be the live mode that is stopping it. |
| 00:11.13 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustang, well, if can try it again, do "ndiswrapper -l" to see if has accepted correctly the driver (list drivers) |
| 00:12.20 | JumpNMustang | is that in a terminal? |
| 00:13.32 | JumpNMustang | I would have to reboot to do it.:-) I don't mind though. I wanted to boot back to knoppix cause I can take out the cd. But to help make elive better I would help out anyway I could. |
| 00:16.58 | JumpNMustang | ok, going to try that out. |
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| 00:31.01 | Elive_user88_en | test |
| 00:31.36 | Elive_user88_en | am I here? |
| 00:32.05 | Elive_user88_en | oh I see.. |
| 00:32.21 | Thanatermesis | yes :) |
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| 00:32.41 | JumpNMustangII | ok, I am on with the bcm driver. |
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| 00:33.06 | JumpNMustangII | it said ndiswrapper was an invalid command. |
| 00:33.13 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 00:33.27 | Thanatermesis | from root ? |
| 00:33.35 | JumpNMustangII | lemme try. |
| 00:34.12 | JumpNMustangII | came back with no errors but nothing came back either.:-) |
| 00:34.57 | Elive_user79 | hi everybody |
| 00:35.11 | Elive_user79 | i am i new user to elive... |
| 00:35.18 | JumpNMustangII | hi |
| 00:35.24 | Elive_user79 | i use the e16 |
| 00:36.00 | Elive_user79 | i am going to put a question hopeing tyo find some help |
| 00:36.07 | JumpNMustangII | would you know why pidgin would fail to start Thanatemesis? |
| 00:36.21 | Elive_user79 | when i minimize in e16 awny app it disaperars |
| 00:36.47 | Elive_user79 | and to find it i have to press alt+tab |
| 00:36.59 | Elive_user79 | like in windows... |
| 00:37.19 | JumpNMustangII | sounds like its acting right. |
| 00:37.41 | Elive_user79 | but i would like that the app minimizes and stays somewhere visible in the desktop... |
| 00:37.43 | JumpNMustangII | mine you can bring it back three ways. |
| 00:38.06 | JumpNMustangII | there is a little "X" at the bottom of the screen left hand side. says chat through it. |
| 00:38.15 | JumpNMustangII | you got that, Elive_user79? |
| 00:38.18 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustangII, try to launch it from a terminal, maybe is not installed the package |
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| 00:38.52 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, you ahve removed your iconbox |
| 00:39.08 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, recover your default e16 configuration from elpanel |
| 00:39.09 | Elive_user87 | ?? |
| 00:39.14 | Thanatermesis | hello Elive_user87 |
| 00:39.14 | Elive_user79 | well the package is xmms and firefox that come with the dist. |
| 00:39.22 | Elive_user87 | huh?? |
| 00:39.30 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user87, this is a chat |
| 00:39.32 | Thanatermesis | of Elive :) |
| 00:39.38 | Elive_user79 | ohhh ok i will do that |
| 00:39.42 | JumpNMustangII | well I have a feeling that part of it is because the driver I am using on windows is a vista driver. |
| 00:39.43 | Elive_user87 | oh i |
| 00:39.45 | Elive_user87 | c |
| 00:39.57 | JumpNMustangII | I might have to download an XP driver from one of the online sites. |
| 00:40.08 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustangII, thats very possible, yes, ndiswrapper uses XP ones |
| 00:40.41 | JumpNMustangII | I was afraid of that. I grow more and more irritated with vista the more I use it.:-) |
| 00:40.51 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 00:40.57 | Thanatermesis | its pure crap |
| 00:41.01 | Thanatermesis | its pure crap itself |
| 00:41.10 | Thanatermesis | but you need to pay for buy a laptop |
| 00:41.17 | JumpNMustangII | I liked XP as long as it was the professional edition. |
| 00:41.19 | Thanatermesis | and you are obliged to not remove it or you lost the warranty |
| 00:41.26 | Thanatermesis | manufactures comes everytime more stupid |
| 00:41.38 | Thanatermesis | this is a good alternative :) http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm |
| 00:41.51 | JumpNMustangII | my warranty is pretty much up. |
| 00:42.33 | Thanatermesis | well, then just dont use it |
| 00:42.56 | JumpNMustangII | If I can talk my woman into using a linux version I can be rid of vista forever. |
| 00:43.19 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustangII, try with Elive, Elive is pretty easy to use for everybody |
| 00:43.20 | JumpNMustangII | yeah I have seen those laptops. |
| 00:43.41 | JumpNMustangII | It's more of a "get her use to it if she lets me". |
| 00:44.04 | JumpNMustangII | I think elive would be the closest to getting her to use it though. |
| 00:44.09 | Thanatermesis | i remember a woman that talks me everyday because any problems with windows... one day i was decided to install Elive to his laptop and she has stopped to call me about problems lol |
| 00:44.17 | JumpNMustangII | oh, would you know why pidgin is not working? |
| 00:44.35 | Thanatermesis | open a terminal and type "pidgin" |
| 00:44.47 | Thanatermesis | i think that is not installed, but i don't know why appears on the menus then... |
| 00:44.57 | JumpNMustangII | yeah says command not found. |
| 00:45.03 | Thanatermesis | right... |
| 00:45.07 | JumpNMustangII | that explains it! |
| 00:45.08 | Thanatermesis | i need to see why it appears on the menus |
| 00:45.11 | Thanatermesis | yes :) |
| 00:45.24 | JumpNMustangII | I love pidgin. |
| 00:46.00 | Thanatermesis | well, you can "apt-get install" it without problems |
| 00:46.07 | Thanatermesis | is just not included by default on the iso, but available |
| 00:46.30 | JumpNMustangII | well, that is interesting.. |
| 00:47.27 | JumpNMustangII | could not find the package..:-( |
| 00:48.03 | Elive_user79 | well.... sorry to dont find it jajaja |
| 00:48.33 | Elive_user79 | i open elpanel and there is a windows the shadow of a dude a some keys |
| 00:48.35 | Thanatermesis | oh, you need to "apt-get update" first |
| 00:48.47 | Thanatermesis | the cache is removed by default because it takes too much space on the ISO for nothing |
| 00:48.50 | Elive_user79 | with one should i look for restoring my iconbox |
| 00:49.05 | JumpNMustangII | makes sence. |
| 00:49.42 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, in the second icon (user configurations), then the icon that has 4 mini-icons around (personal configurations manager) |
| 00:50.07 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, no, it restores your e16 configuration completly, so you can lost all configurations you have do in e16 |
| 00:50.26 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, but you can try to search in e16 menus to see if there's any one with the option to create a new iconbox |
| 00:50.30 | JumpNMustangII | looks like it still is having problems. Don't worry though it's not THAT important yet. |
| 00:50.49 | JumpNMustangII | it becomes important when I can install:-) |
| 00:50.59 | Thanatermesis | JumpNMustangII, just: apt-get update ; apt-get install pidgin |
| 00:51.00 | Thanatermesis | from root |
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| 00:52.23 | Elive_user79 | wow thank you tharna |
| 00:52.28 | Elive_user79 | i did it |
| 00:52.31 | Elive_user79 | jajajaja |
| 00:52.39 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 00:52.56 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, you don't like e17 ? |
| 00:53.15 | Elive_user79 | it is so cool to make a thing work as you wish soecially when you are switching from guindows |
| 00:53.33 | JumpNMustangII | Hmmm looks like it worked this time. |
| 00:53.50 | Elive_user79 | i dot like it but i am using e16 because i am reviving my old pcs |
| 00:54.12 | Elive_user79 | i am using and amd with a foxcon motherboard with 128 ram |
| 00:54.13 | Elive_user79 | jajaja |
| 00:54.21 | Elive_user79 | i kind of old+ |
| 00:54.29 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, so, e16 works better than e17 in low computers ? |
| 00:55.09 | Elive_user79 | i like more e17 and the night theme is really nice but e16 goes faster and without lag |
| 00:55.44 | Elive_user79 | and if i go to the terminal and press top... it doesnd ocupy that many memory |
| 00:56.08 | JumpNMustangII | Makes sence.. what is the speed of the AMD chip? |
| 00:56.14 | Elive_user79 | well still learning of enlightment |
| 00:56.23 | Elive_user79 | 1 ghertz |
| 00:56.24 | Thanatermesis | yes, is possible that e16 are a bit more light than e17, but if you disable some modules on e17 and use low themes/backgrounds, its supposed to be more light than e16 |
| 00:56.36 | JumpNMustangII | Really?! |
| 00:56.38 | keyra | Thanatermesis: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 00:56.40 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, 1 GH with 128 mb ram ? |
| 00:57.08 | Elive_user79 | yes procesor 1gh and ram 128 |
| 00:57.13 | Elive_user79 | and amd |
| 00:57.24 | Elive_user79 | well it is like 1,6 |
| 00:57.29 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79, why use this low ram on that very good computer ? |
| 00:57.33 | Elive_user79 | or something i will checck |
| 00:57.52 | JumpNMustangII | the 1.0 chip shouldn't be the problem. |
| 00:58.39 | Elive_user79 | that is bacause when i bought it had 256 but one of the sticks got lost i dont know if my brothers used iut for some experiment of his |
| 00:59.03 | JumpNMustangII | I would suggest getting 512 for that comp. |
| 00:59.16 | JumpNMustangII | or higher.. |
| 00:59.46 | Elive_user79 | the motherboard supports 2gb as maximun the thing is that is ddr 333 |
| 01:00.00 | Elive_user79 | i am in venezuela so it isnt easy |
| 01:00.07 | JumpNMustangII | ahh right.. |
| 01:00.20 | JumpNMustangII | got any american friends or anything?:-) |
| 01:00.35 | Elive_user79 | well nope |
| 01:01.01 | JumpNMustangII | you would probably be suprised at the performance you get out of 2gb. |
| 01:01.13 | Elive_user79 | hey i have disconect in a while is it ok to know where are you guys right know? |
| 01:01.36 | Elive_user79 | in what country? |
| 01:01.41 | Elive_user79 | us? |
| 01:01.48 | JumpNMustangII | I am in the US. |
| 01:01.57 | Elive_user79 | cool |
| 01:03.47 | JumpNMustangII | Cool.:-) |
| 01:03.51 | JumpNMustangII | I love elive. |
| 01:04.57 | Elive_user79 | i am new to linux and something i did was to install debian without desktop and so on |
| 01:05.09 | Elive_user79 | i installed xorg and then fluxbox |
| 01:05.11 | keyra | Elive_user79: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 01:05.34 | JumpNMustangII | fluxbox is good.. |
| 01:06.01 | Elive_user79 | i read about enlightment in installed it the souce fron sourceforge and i lloks pretty bad |
| 01:06.03 | Elive_user79 | jajaja |
| 01:06.20 | Elive_user79 | i mean i didnt configure anything right |
| 01:06.33 | Elive_user79 | ok keyra i will keep that in mind |
| 01:06.54 | JumpNMustangII | I have not seen enlightenment installed in another distro since mandrake 6. |
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| 03:25.14 | muscat | eltrans? |
| 03:25.28 | keyra | muscat: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
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| 04:44.04 | Deton8R | for something that is so unusable it sure installs well. And there's no way it could be as unstable as Vista. |
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| 05:06.37 | Wizard | good morning |
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| 07:03.05 | Thybo | hello Wizard ;) |
| 07:03.14 | Thybo | is away: I will be back... Oh yes I will be back!!!! |
| 07:05.29 | Wizard | hi Thybo |
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| 10:17.26 | Spami | Hi |
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| 10:28.12 | Wizard | hi Spami |
| 10:31.05 | Spami | I'm lokking for electronic music like prodigy, miss kitten, the hackers, daft punk. Someone can council me something ? |
| 10:31.16 | Spami | (and correct my bad english) |
| 10:33.26 | Wizard | is totally aware of electronic music |
| 10:40.51 | Thanatermesis | Spami, try: xmms /usr/share/elivaessence/03-goapsy.pls |
| 10:41.08 | Thanatermesis | but.. its a bit more hard than prodigy |
| 10:51.03 | Spami | no problem |
| 10:51.11 | Spami | ththx |
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| 11:15.19 | AlexAnteMachina | hey folks! |
| 11:15.26 | AlexAnteMachina | Someone alive? |
| 11:21.02 | AlexAnteMachina | ha |
| 11:21.06 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard, |
| 11:21.10 | AlexAnteMachina | hi! |
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| 11:34.33 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/shots/release-1.7.4.jpg |
| 11:34.49 | Thanatermesis | is there any thing to untarzanice ? :P |
| 11:38.37 | wasynyt | hmm |
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| 12:48.03 | vandal[ch] | hihihi |
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| 12:50.41 | vandal[ch] | hi elive_user21 |
| 12:51.11 | vandal[ch] | schweizer ? ^ |
| 12:52.09 | vandal[ch] | how can I change the resolution for the consoles ? |
| 12:52.24 | keyra | vandal[ch]: your answer is elpanel |
| 12:54.10 | vandal[ch] | eyra I don't ment the console in E17...I'm talking about the other ones (Ctrl+Alt+F1...etc..) |
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| 14:56.02 | Deton8R | is there any kind of changelog for the latest dev build? |
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| 15:11.07 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, do you are in Gem ? |
| 15:11.21 | AlexAnteMachina | no, I'm running 1.7.2 |
| 15:11.29 | AlexAnteMachina | installed! |
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| 15:11.39 | AlexAnteMachina | ...as you might remember. |
| 15:12.24 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, there is a special version of Elive for eeePc, isnt it? |
| 15:14.27 | Deton8R | I got 1.7.2 installed and wonder if it's worthwhile to go to 1.7.4. Any thoughts? |
| 15:14.29 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 15:15.39 | Thanatermesis | Deton8R, do not download 1.7.4 right now, there's a bug with the hostname |
| 15:15.39 | AlexAnteMachina | 1.7.4? |
| 15:15.45 | Thanatermesis | its needed to upload a new iso |
| 15:15.55 | Thanatermesis | (like you can see, is not published right now ;)) |
| 15:16.28 | Deton8R | Thanks. I usually try it in live mode and under vmware before I mess with it, but it's a big download if it's not ready. |
| 15:16.29 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, in some way, the support is not totally finished but pretty soon can be included, so, yes :) |
| 15:16.50 | Thanatermesis | Deton8R, and, i recommend you to use the (future) Elive installer or you can got misc problems in your system |
| 15:16.57 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm still pretty keen on an EeePc. |
| 15:17.13 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es keen |
| 15:17.21 | Deton8R | Thanatermesis, you mean the alpha one that's out there now? |
| 15:17.23 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, do you have one ? |
| 15:17.42 | AlexAnteMachina | nope, not yet. but I would like to have one. |
| 15:17.54 | AlexAnteMachina | Do you have one, Thanatermesis ? |
| 15:17.57 | Thanatermesis | Deton8R, well, this alpha "just installs", but it doesn't do a good install, you can have problems with it, you need to do few tricks on the system like remove some lines of your fstab (ex. tmpfs) |
| 15:18.02 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, yes |
| 15:18.18 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, i recommend you to wait a bit and buy the 900/901 version |
| 15:18.21 | Thanatermesis | it has more hard disk and more big screen |
| 15:18.27 | AlexAnteMachina | with the gibber display? |
| 15:18.30 | Thanatermesis | well, i think that is 100 or 150 $ more expensive |
| 15:18.34 | Thanatermesis | yhes |
| 15:18.42 | Thanatermesis | http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm |
| 15:18.46 | AlexAnteMachina | well, this bigger one is pretty expensive! |
| 15:19.06 | Thanatermesis | the 900 model is out, the model 901 is not out yet but it has a new CPU (1500 mhz, intel atom) |
| 15:19.19 | Thanatermesis | but the model 901 is a bit different phisically (case) |
| 15:20.03 | Thanatermesis | is a bit more "rounded" |
| 15:20.03 | AlexAnteMachina | Is there any way getting one for a cheaper price? (except robbery!) |
| 15:20.28 | Thanatermesis | wich one you want ? on germany ? |
| 15:20.54 | AlexAnteMachina | well, german layout would be nicest, but any other would work for me, too. |
| 15:21.40 | AlexAnteMachina | would buy some keyboard-stickers to make a foreign keyboard look lige a german one ;) |
| 15:21.48 | Deton8R | Thanatermesis, I see. I'll wait on it and keep using the live mode as a guinea pig. Thanks. |
| 15:24.59 | Thanatermesis | http://www.eeeuser.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/dsc04130.jpg |
| 15:24.59 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, if you buy the windows version you got 12 GB HD, if you buy the linux version you got 20 :) |
| 15:24.59 | Thanatermesis | guinea pig hehe |
| 15:25.00 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, well! i can't say you where to buy it to have it on germany, just search in google ;) i know a street in germany that has around 10 computer shops, these computers should sell differents hardware, maybe you found it there |
| 15:25.00 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/laptops/eee900/sbs_3.jpg |
| 15:25.00 | Thanatermesis | mouse and screen more big, and hd |
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| 15:27.46 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, I know about both models. |
| 15:28.37 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, i think that is better to buy the 900 or the 901 model, the 701 has only 4gb of HD and the screen its a bit too much small |
| 15:28.37 | AlexAnteMachina | I've found one for 255 ⬠|
| 15:28.43 | Thanatermesis | which model ? |
| 15:28.52 | AlexAnteMachina | model 701 |
| 15:29.07 | Thanatermesis | well, all depends of if you want to pay cheap or to have the better one |
| 15:29.24 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... I have no money left. |
| 15:29.29 | Thanatermesis | 255 ⬠is very good for a laptop, is like... buy a box of cigarretes (lol) |
| 15:29.36 | AlexAnteMachina | so I guess I will buy nothing. |
| 15:29.37 | Thanatermesis | then buy this 255 one ;) |
| 15:29.40 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 15:29.53 | AlexAnteMachina | is a poor guy. |
| 15:30.08 | AlexAnteMachina | you know I got 2 Dogs. |
| 15:30.17 | AlexAnteMachina | Those are expensive. |
| 15:30.31 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, well, this is not the perfect laptop "to work", but is the perfect laptop to walk ANYWHERE with it |
| 15:30.53 | AlexAnteMachina | One of them is pretty sick and need medication. That's very expensive. |
| 15:31.33 | AlexAnteMachina | Well, EeePc is the perfect laptop for me. I'm doing a lot of outdoor activities. |
| 15:33.03 | AlexAnteMachina | for example I hate doing Elive-Translations at my PC. It's so annoying sitting in my appartement and thinking about the best translation. But hanging out in the garden with my dogs and my neighbour whilst thinking about translations would be fun. |
| 15:35.38 | Thanatermesis | <AlexAnteMachina> Well, EeePc is the perfect laptop for me. I'm doing a lot of outdoor activities. |
| 15:35.40 | Thanatermesis | then yes, it is |
| 15:35.57 | Thanatermesis | but remember, 701 has only 4GB HD |
| 15:36.06 | Thanatermesis | by other side you can use a SD card for HD |
| 15:36.35 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, and eeepc's plays good Torus Trooper! (3d) :) |
| 15:37.47 | AlexAnteMachina | well, I also could use online-storage. |
| 15:38.17 | AlexAnteMachina | I had finished Level 99 in extreme mode!!! |
| 15:38.33 | Thanatermesis | really ? :o |
| 15:38.43 | Thanatermesis | i can't pass the 56 level |
| 15:38.57 | Thanatermesis | but maybe the reason is that i don't have time for it (LOL) |
| 15:39.05 | Elive_user75 | 1nn |
| 15:39.07 | AlexAnteMachina | well, it#s been a while, but either it was 96 or 99... cant remember exactly. |
| 15:39.19 | Elive_user75 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.45 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm not spending much time on it, too. It's getting boring after about 5-10 minutes. |
| 15:40.11 | Thanatermesis | its good for wake up when you are tired lol |
| 15:40.23 | AlexAnteMachina | is it? |
| 15:40.55 | AlexAnteMachina | I should raise a fund: "EeePC for Alex!" |
| 15:41.32 | AlexAnteMachina | donate and help alex buy a new Eee-PC to keep german translations of Elive up and running! |
| 15:41.36 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 15:41.48 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 15:42.40 | AlexAnteMachina | I'll ask Mr. Google to finde me a EeePC for free. |
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| 15:43.25 | Thanatermesis | lol, i think that Mr google don't has answers for this |
| 15:43.30 | AlexAnteMachina | Shame on Mr. Google! Didn't find any PC for free! |
| 15:44.33 | AlexAnteMachina | I also found a tutorial to turn EeePC's display into a touchscreen! |
| 15:44.40 | AlexAnteMachina | THAT is cool! |
| 15:45.11 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, you can win a eeepc if you meet taiwan: http://www.meettaiwan.com.tw/eng/publication_detail.asp?BULLETIN_ID=2008040004 |
| 15:45.25 | AlexAnteMachina | meet what? |
| 15:46.07 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, http://beta.ivancover.com/wiki/index.php/Eee_PC_Internal_Upgrades |
| 15:46.46 | AlexAnteMachina | that website was completely in Taiwanese! |
| 15:47.26 | AlexAnteMachina | uh... argh... hrrrrmphhhhh |
| 15:47.35 | AlexAnteMachina | those screenshots! |
| 15:47.47 | AlexAnteMachina | take them away from me... pleeeease! |
| 15:48.05 | AlexAnteMachina | that's windows hardwaremanager. |
| 15:48.13 | AlexAnteMachina | ugly as work! |
| 15:48.34 | Thanatermesis | does a DOS attack to the site for AlexAnteMachina |
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| 15:59.01 | Deton8R | Well, that was an ugly crash. GLMatrix xscreensaver went haywire. |
| 15:59.25 | Thanatermesis | do you have 3d acceleration working ? |
| 16:00.07 | Deton8R | no, and I forgot that. I used the GPL nVidia driver. GLMatrix didn't like that. |
| 16:00.18 | Thanatermesis | that's the reason ;) |
| 16:00.28 | Thanatermesis | gpl nvidia driver is not very good |
| 16:00.36 | Deton8R | I really should write down which drivers I use each time. |
| 16:00.43 | Thanatermesis | it doesnt support 3d, no dual screen, no XV, and sometimes it doesnt simply works correctly |
| 16:01.23 | Thanatermesis | actually for the next version of Elive, it informs you if you have any X feature (3d/XV/colors/composite) disabled :) |
| 16:01.29 | Deton8R | well, I got dumped to the login screen and didn't lose anything, |
| 16:01.34 | Deton8R | oh, that's helpful. |
| 16:01.36 | AlexAnteMachina | Yesterday I installed GoogleEarth. It has a new, very nice look! |
| 16:02.28 | Deton8R | next time I'm going to try the proprietary driver. It has worked very well for me in the past. |
| 16:03.08 | Thanatermesis | nvidia propietary driver is very good, i need to recognize it |
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| 16:04.34 | X3n0n | and about ATI flgrx ? hum...ok, i leave -----> [] :D |
| 16:04.52 | Thanatermesis | says: |
| 16:06.33 | Deton8R | definitely give credit where it is due. |
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| 16:10.52 | Thanatermesis | one Thybo ! |
| 16:11.28 | AlexAnteMachina | Caniquantel+ |
| 16:11.31 | Thybo | Thanatermesis? :p |
| 16:11.51 | Thybo | you want 2 thibos? |
| 16:11.52 | Thybo | :d |
| 16:12.06 | Thanatermesis | apt, do you want 2 Thybo's ? |
| 16:12.07 | apt | yes, I want 2 Thybo's. |
| 16:12.12 | Thybo | hahahaha |
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| 16:12.28 | Thybo | apt, do you want Thamartesis²? |
| 16:12.29 | apt | yes, I want Thamartesis². |
| 16:12.31 | Thybo | :d |
| 16:13.39 | Thybo | hows it goin Thanatermesis ?;) |
| 16:13.57 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, trying to work in the installer between i fix a strange bug in the hostname |
| 16:14.09 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, any news about the suspend tests ? |
| 16:14.31 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:14.32 | Thybo | well |
| 16:14.39 | Thybo | my screen still does not turn off |
| 16:15.02 | Thanatermesis | with the upgraded + rebooted system ? |
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| 16:15.49 | Thybo | hmm |
| 16:15.51 | Thybo | upgraded... |
| 16:15.57 | Thybo | & dunoo if rebooted |
| 16:15.59 | Thybo | no no reboot |
| 16:16.06 | Thanatermesis | ok, better reboot then |
| 16:16.07 | Thybo | but services stop & restart? |
| 16:16.08 | Thybo | ok |
| 16:16.11 | Thybo | ill do taht :) |
| 16:17.20 | Thybo | have sound issues anyways |
| 16:17.23 | Thybo | no idea why |
| 16:17.32 | Thybo | reboot be back soon |
| 16:19.12 | X3n0n | suspend worked with my laptop & nvidia 173.08 beta :o |
| 16:19.33 | X3n0n | but, i think i had sound issues when laptop waked up |
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| 16:21.02 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n, with wich version of Elive ? |
| 16:21.13 | Thanatermesis | Thybo, yes, servicees restart, but is more fast and more secure to do a simple reboot |
| 16:21.21 | Thybo | :) |
| 16:21.23 | Thybo | okok |
| 16:21.25 | Thybo | just rebooted |
| 16:21.30 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis: 1.7.2 |
| 16:22.32 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n, mmh, i think that you use the right one.. but try: hebernate --suspend |
| 16:22.45 | Thybo | is trying to suspend now |
| 16:23.15 | X3n0n | i'll try later, i'm not on elive at the moment |
| 16:23.45 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis: i asked a question last week, is there a GUI tool to discover & connect samba share folder ? |
| 16:23.58 | Thybo | sees the screen still brigh |
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| 16:24.29 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n, i think that LinuxNIT-III has made a tool for that, and... maybe i add it to Elive, i don't have tried it yet! |
| 16:25.12 | Thybo | X3n0n, and Thanatermesis can speak french together (a) :p |
| 16:25.14 | Thybo | ;) |
| 16:25.42 | X3n0n | Thybo: il parle french thana ? :D |
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| 16:25.58 | Thybo | ben oui il parle francais Thanatermesis, il a habité a Liège!! |
| 16:26.00 | Thybo | ;) |
| 16:26.07 | X3n0n | lol stune blague ? :P |
| 16:26.16 | Thanatermesis | non, pas du tout :) |
| 16:26.16 | Thybo | après prefere peut etre l'anglais comme langue de travail mais bon |
| 16:26.17 | Thybo | :) |
| 16:26.19 | Thybo | c'est autre chose ;) |
| 16:26.24 | X3n0n | en plus, je le vois parler espagnol souvent aussi |
| 16:26.33 | Thybo | ben il es espagnol en meme temps |
| 16:26.33 | Thybo | :p |
| 16:26.35 | Thybo | c pas de sa faute ;) |
| 16:26.37 | X3n0n | j'aurais pas soupsonné qu'il aprlait francais, vu que je l'ai jamais vu faire :D |
| 16:26.41 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 16:26.44 | X3n0n | oula c dur |
| 16:26.50 | Thybo | héhé |
| 16:26.51 | X3n0n | et l'origine de Elive c Belgium d'apres distrowatch :o |
| 16:26.54 | Thybo | faut suivre ^^ |
| 16:26.58 | Thanatermesis | parfois je parle français ici aussi, mais pas souvent :P |
| 16:27.03 | X3n0n | :) |
| 16:27.10 | Thybo | mais ton francais est très bon quand tu t'appliques Thanatermesis ;) |
| 16:27.34 | Thanatermesis | bof, pas tellement, aux moins ortographiquement ;) |
| 16:27.46 | X3n0n | beaucoup mieu que la majorité des gens qui traient sur les chats ;) |
| 16:28.01 | Thanatermesis | i don't found the LinuxNIT-III's samba application, better to ask him directly |
| 16:28.25 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis: it wasn't a tool like this in the 1.0 Gem ? or 0.5 ? |
| 16:28.44 | Thanatermesis | no... that's other one, not very good |
| 16:28.47 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis: i swear i have already seen a tool like this somewhere..$ |
| 16:28.53 | Thanatermesis | so i have removed it from Elive |
| 16:29.00 | X3n0n | okay |
| 16:29.11 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n, but in any case you can do "apt-cache search samba" and try them |
| 16:29.22 | Thanatermesis | if you found a good candidate to add in Elive by default, tell me |
| 16:29.43 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis: okay |
| 16:29.45 | Thanatermesis | or maybe i could use hte LinuxNIT-III's one... problem is that i dont has any windows machine to see how it works or how userfriendly is |
| 16:30.18 | X3n0n | there is a lot of users there, you can ask someone to test it, we are here for that ;) |
| 16:32.16 | Thanatermesis | i think that is needed a kind of organization for that |
| 16:32.17 | Thanatermesis | for example |
| 16:32.31 | Thanatermesis | is needed to test all the differents possible wifi cards |
| 16:32.43 | Thanatermesis | but when i ask about if anybody has X card, nobody reply |
| 16:32.45 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 16:32.52 | Thanatermesis | or to test something, anything... |
| 16:33.17 | Thanatermesis | is needed a kind of organization, a team of testers and a trace of the tests made and stuff |
| 16:33.27 | Thanatermesis | any idea about how to manage all that ? :) |
| 16:33.29 | X3n0n | yes, i understand |
| 16:35.12 | X3n0n | i think, if the googlegroup were more active, it could be fine, example, create a topic where you put what hardware need to be tested, and testers can make a report on it. but, the problem is still the same, find people with the hardware to test |
| 16:37.01 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 16:37.04 | Thanatermesis | and there's also other problem |
| 16:37.13 | Thanatermesis | i don't read much the google groups, i don't have time for it |
| 16:37.28 | X3n0n | it's what i thought too |
| 16:37.39 | Thanatermesis | by other side assasukasse is the most active on this group, if he found something/comment that i need to know, he informs me |
| 16:38.10 | Thanatermesis | and also, if it was more active, then there's alot more of things to read... more hard again for me to me "to day" of this site |
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| 16:38.39 | X3n0n | in my case, when i will find somthing interesting, i will put it on the google group, with -if there is one- a complete report to how to solve it |
| 16:38.56 | X3n0n | as i have already done for the sound and nvidia problem |
| 16:42.27 | Thanatermesis | i need that ppl tells me from here (where im more available) about any report, problem, bug... or any thing that i need to know from the google groups |
| 16:42.42 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 16:45.59 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis: when i would tell you about this problem, you were not there ;) |
| 16:46.21 | X3n0n | so, i thought post it on the google group was a good idea |
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| 16:47.58 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n, i was been out of the IRC this last time |
| 16:50.26 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis: don't worry, there are o lot of people who love Elive, and who will help you to improve it ;)Ã |
| 16:50.33 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 16:51.25 | X3n0n | i have to go, another week of studies lol |
| 16:51.34 | X3n0n | Have a good week Thanatermesis, see you later :) |
| 16:52.46 | morgan12 | good evening |
| 16:52.51 | morgan12 | salut Thanatermesis |
| 16:53.00 | Thanatermesis | salut morgan12 ! |
| 16:53.11 | morgan12 | how are you? |
| 16:53.11 | apt | mas o menos, morgan12 |
| 16:53.13 | Thanatermesis | see you and have a good week too X3n0n |
| 16:53.19 | X3n0n | thx :) |
| 16:53.33 | Thanatermesis | morgan12, good :) working on the installer and looking about the support for the eeepc too |
| 16:53.41 | Thanatermesis | morgan12, so, you are waiting to install Elive on it ? |
| 16:54.13 | morgan12 | non comme je t'ai dit c'est pas que j'attend c'est que je n'ai pas le temps :( |
| 16:54.24 | morgan12 | a partir de demain jusqu'au 13 juin je suis en examen |
| 16:54.38 | Thanatermesis | aha ok |
| 16:54.58 | Thanatermesis | bon, quand tu voudra installer Elive tu me le dit, pour quand tu aura le temps je croix quil será tout pret :) |
| 16:55.11 | Thanatermesis | (installer + support/drivers) |
| 16:55.18 | morgan12 | ok :) après mes examens j'aurai le temps sans problème |
| 16:55.35 | morgan12 | désolé si je n'ai plus eu le temps de faire des tests avec toi |
| 16:56.52 | muscat | El instalador dice "hda: lost interrupt" y no me reconoce las particiones, al no ver la swap, la instalacion aborta. |
| 16:57.49 | morgan12 | thana, you do not know if access is running with wine? because I need this for my examination |
| 17:00.58 | muscat | The installer says: "hda: lost interrupt" and doesn't recognize the partitions, so, not seeing the swap, it aborts. What boot options do you propose? |
| 17:05.37 | muscat | I am trying the failsafe option |
| 17:06.28 | Thanatermesis | morgan12, i can't tell you that... i don't use windows or any windows application at all, better to see the answer in google ;) |
| 17:06.32 | Thanatermesis | or use openoffice |
| 17:06.38 | Thanatermesis | "openoffice calc" = excel |
| 17:07.03 | Thanatermesis | muscat, you are talking about... the installer of Elive ? which version of Elive ? |
| 17:07.24 | morgan12 | je sais mais pour mon examen j'ai été obligé d'utiliser access :( et sous openoffice la base de données ne passe pas |
| 17:07.40 | morgan12 | l'an prochain je devrai utiliser microsoft visual studio, burg |
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| 17:11.58 | muscat | The last version, Thanatermesis |
| 17:13.19 | Thanatermesis | muscat, 1.7.2 ? |
| 17:13.36 | Thanatermesis | muscat, which installer you are using ? this version doesn't has any installer |
| 17:13.39 | muscat | Ies |
| 17:13.59 | muscat | From the Live mode |
| 17:15.12 | muscat | Is an obsolete machine, 15 years old, AMD K6 II |
| 17:15.28 | muscat | It was a Debian Server |
| 17:15.29 | Thanatermesis | how much RAM ? |
| 17:15.41 | muscat | 384 megas RAM |
| 17:15.42 | keyra | muscat: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 17:15.48 | Thanatermesis | muscat, i still not understand... where is your problem, that error message ? in the installer ? |
| 17:16.32 | muscat | Elive runs in Live mode but can't install it because the instalation does not recognize the partitions |
| 17:17.29 | muscat | My Dell Inspiron 5150 laptop works fine with Elive, all works well, I am chatting with the laptop now connected by ADSL |
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| 17:20.37 | muscat | The safe mode outputs: exec of program '/etc/init.d/hdparm' failed |
| 17:20.54 | muscat | And the instalation aborts |
| 17:24.23 | Thanatermesis | muscat, but... 1.7.2 doesn't has installer |
| 17:25.23 | Thanatermesis | and i don't understand... the installer doesn't has anything related with hdparm |
| 17:26.41 | muscat | I downloaded it from your website last week |
| 17:27.06 | muscat | Is the Live CD of Elive |
| 17:27.33 | muscat | I call installer to the last icon at the panel |
| 17:28.45 | muscat | When we ar in live mode and we want to install elive into the hard disk |
| 17:29.00 | keyra | muscat: you don't know how install Elive ? honey... is not that hard... |
| 17:31.14 | Thanatermesis | muscat, so, you are talking about the Stable version ? not hte development one |
| 17:31.55 | muscat | Yes, the stable version. |
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| 17:33.01 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT, ping |
| 17:33.33 | Thanatermesis | muscat, ok, open a terminal and type "su" to be root, then type "eliveinstaller", any error message can appears on the terminal then |
| 17:34.04 | muscat | Ok |
| 17:35.07 | muscat | I will do so an return to tell what happened ;-) Thank you !!! |
| 17:38.45 | LinuxNIT | Thanatermesis, pong |
| 17:39.55 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT, tell me again about your samba application :) |
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| 17:40.08 | LinuxNIT | which one? or both? |
| 17:40.20 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n has wanted a nice samba GUI tool |
| 17:40.31 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT, and... i don't have added to Elive any tool yet! |
| 17:40.33 | LinuxNIT | for browsing or configureing the server? |
| 17:40.44 | LinuxNIT | i have one for both of those |
| 17:40.52 | Thanatermesis | one for both can be better :) |
| 17:41.11 | LinuxNIT | david.braker.com/linux |
| 17:41.21 | LinuxNIT | one is a gui for mounting samba shares |
| 17:42.19 | Thanatermesis | i have look at uploaded.elivecd.org but not found it, LinuxNIT |
| 17:42.53 | LinuxNIT | it will search the network for workgroups then scan the computer for shares and allow mounting |
| 17:43.03 | LinuxNIT | i dont have them on uploaded.elivecd.org right now |
| 17:43.14 | LinuxNIT | i have them at david.braker.com/linux/ |
| 17:44.21 | LinuxNIT | the other program helps you configure the samba server it is much simpler than programs like swat and gsambad and therefore does not have near as many options.... the idea was to make a program that was not overwhelming to the average user |
| 17:44.29 | LinuxNIT | and still offer good configurations |
| 17:47.31 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, let me write on my TODO to add them to Elive... |
| 17:47.57 | Thanatermesis | diabetik, later tell X3n0n try these nice applications for samba things: http://david.braker.com/linux/programs.html |
| 17:47.58 | diabetik | Thanatermesis: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:48.08 | Thanatermesis | thanks diabetik, you are a useful bot :) |
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| 17:52.38 | [Hugo] | anyone knows th md5 of elive_1.7.2_unstable.iso ? please |
| 17:52.52 | keyra | [Hugo]: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 17:54.08 | [Hugo] | thanks keyra |
| 17:54.23 | keyra | [Hugo]: welcome :) |
| 17:55.00 | Thanatermesis | [Hugo], you have downloaded it right now ? |
| 17:55.50 | Thanatermesis | because the iso is removed, there's now 1.7.4 so maybe your download has stopped |
| 17:55.59 | Thanatermesis | but dont' download 1.7.4, it has a bug, wait 1.7.5 |
| 17:56.45 | [Hugo] | nope |
| 17:56.54 | [Hugo] | I downloaded a few days ago |
| 17:57.05 | Thanatermesis | oh well |
| 17:57.09 | Thanatermesis | what's your problem then ? |
| 17:57.13 | [Hugo] | ipod |
| 17:57.19 | [Hugo] | to carry it |
| 17:57.33 | [Hugo] | and I dont trust th ipod :) |
| 17:58.03 | Thanatermesis | your plugged ipod doesn't works ? |
| 17:58.11 | [Hugo] | 1.7.2 didnt start at my place |
| 17:58.14 | [Hugo] | hahah |
| 17:58.23 | [Hugo] | nope, its all fine Thanatermesis |
| 17:58.33 | [Hugo] | working great ! |
| 17:58.51 | Thanatermesis | im not sure if a fix that i have do is on 1.7.2 or not yet... |
| 17:59.06 | Thanatermesis | what happens when you plug it ? it opens a nice GUI application for ipod or just a file-browser |
| 17:59.06 | Thanatermesis | ?= |
| 17:59.36 | [Hugo] | im running GEM now, and it opens a nice GUI :) |
| 18:03.01 | [Hugo] | do you think I can get it booting from a pen drive ? |
| 18:03.17 | [Hugo] | wich version should I use to try that? (pen drive boot?) |
| 18:06.09 | Thanatermesis | you can install it on a pen drive, or you can put the livecd system (only a recent development version) on a usb stick |
| 18:06.44 | Thanatermesis | but is needed to do a few tricks to the usb (grub install) in order to made it working |
| 18:07.47 | [Hugo] | thanks |
| 18:08.19 | [Hugo] | will try and come back with more questions :) |
| 18:24.19 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, will there be any changes concerning e17? |
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| 18:45.06 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, what you mean ? |
| 18:46.35 | AlexAnteMachina | you know what Menue appears when clicking in the desktop!? Well, the same appears when clicking on the "Start"-Icon. |
| 18:48.46 | AlexAnteMachina | So one of both is obsolete, don't you think? |
| 18:50.26 | Thanatermesis | it is just available, but not used at all in Elive by default |
| 18:50.39 | AlexAnteMachina | jep. |
| 18:50.42 | AlexAnteMachina | that's right. |
| 18:51.22 | AlexAnteMachina | and is it possible having the menue only working when clicking the starticon? |
| 18:52.08 | AlexAnteMachina | Because this icon is VERY nice! And I'd like to make it usable. |
| 18:52.08 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
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| 18:54.02 | Thanatermesis | well......... |
| 18:54.05 | Thanatermesis | i think that you can |
| 18:54.19 | Thanatermesis | disabling the click on the desktop and enabling that icon module |
| 18:54.22 | Thanatermesis | simply |
| 18:54.41 | Thanatermesis | but... why you would like to limit your clicks to a zone of the desktop when you can have it in any zone ? :) |
| 19:01.50 | AlexAnteMachina | Testings.... in case I dislike the new settings I'll undo them again. |
| 19:07.38 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, is it possible to take all the settings-stuff off of the Menue and add it to Elpanel? |
| 19:07.59 | Thanatermesis | that'0's a thing that i need to do... |
| 19:08.05 | Thanatermesis | but... there's a problem |
| 19:08.14 | Thanatermesis | is not easier to have them to the menus than in elpanel ? |
| 19:08.30 | AlexAnteMachina | nope. |
| 19:09.06 | AlexAnteMachina | it makes everything "Mixed up". it's a mess having some settings here, others there... |
| 19:09.30 | AlexAnteMachina | it would be GREAT! having a central place for ALL KIND of settings. |
| 19:11.31 | Thanatermesis | yes, of course |
| 19:11.38 | Thanatermesis | this is why i say that is a reamining thing that i need to do :) |
| 19:12.24 | AlexAnteMachina | Great! |
| 19:14.12 | AlexAnteMachina | you dont know how much I appreciate that! |
| 19:14.13 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 19:14.22 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 19:14.28 | AlexAnteMachina | ups... its past 9! |
| 19:14.29 | Thanatermesis | remember, its a development version ;) |
| 19:14.43 | AlexAnteMachina | I have to go out with my dogs! |
| 19:14.58 | Thanatermesis | but good that you report things :) |
| 19:15.03 | AlexAnteMachina | And then I need to go to work. :( |
| 19:16.05 | AlexAnteMachina | and I'm still not owning a eeePC.... that's even worse :(( |
| 19:16.40 | AlexAnteMachina | okay, Thanatermesis see you later! Probably I'll be online at work, too. |
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| 20:47.47 | AlexAnteMachina | Hi Thanatermesis! |
| 20:48.00 | AlexAnteMachina | I've made my swear come true... |
| 20:48.05 | AlexAnteMachina | I'M BACK! |
| 20:48.19 | AlexAnteMachina | ...as you might have recognized. |
| 20:48.21 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 20:48.49 | AlexAnteMachina | ups.... got some work to do..... be back! |
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| 21:17.10 | Thybo | why does the cpu tools not let me conf the speed i want?: :( |
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| 21:50.36 | Elive_user79 | hello |
| 21:51.20 | Elive_user79 | hi does anybody know how to search for drivers for the elive os |
| 21:51.28 | Elive_user79 | ???? |
| 21:51.35 | keyra | Elive_user79: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 21:51.59 | Elive_user79 | thank you very mych |
| 21:54.51 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user79: ??? |
| 21:54.59 | AlexAnteMachina | drivers for elive? |
| 21:55.07 | AlexAnteMachina | elive is debian-based. |
| 21:55.19 | Elive_user79 | yes like for sound and video |
| 21:55.27 | AlexAnteMachina | uh? |
| 21:55.32 | Elive_user79 | and a driver for a printer that i have |
| 21:55.36 | AlexAnteMachina | dude, your sound isn't working? |
| 21:56.24 | Elive_user79 | yes it works fine with alsa but my video isnt working it lags and doesnt work as it used to when it had windows os |
| 21:56.39 | keyra | Elive_user79: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 21:56.57 | AlexAnteMachina | well, what kind of video are you talking about? |
| 21:57.02 | Elive_user79 | jajaj yes i am sure |
| 21:57.41 | AlexAnteMachina | you're sure? about what? |
| 21:57.56 | Elive_user79 | the ones of my browser and the ones that i have on my hd |
| 21:59.42 | Elive_user79 | do you had those ploblems with your elive |
| 22:00.51 | AlexAnteMachina | neither do I know what kind of video you are watching with your browser nore what kind of video is stored on your HDD. |
| 22:01.12 | AlexAnteMachina | That makes it pretty hard to tell anything about it. |
| 22:01.27 | AlexAnteMachina | I had only minor problems concerning video. |
| 22:11.17 | AlexAnteMachina | well, looks like that was a pretty impatient human being. |
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| 22:57.18 | Elive_user | hi all |
| 22:58.19 | Elive_user | I been using the new version and it seems to work quite well |
| 22:58.40 | Elive_user | congratulations to the |
| 22:58.44 | Elive_user | crew |
| 22:59.06 | Elive_user | is e16 going to be included? |
| 23:01.06 | zen_tral | let me know when you have a sec |
| 23:01.11 | zen_tral | thnax |
| 23:01.16 | zen_tral | thanx |
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| 23:17.24 | p1asma | zen_tral: as far is i know it wont be included |
| 23:17.33 | p1asma | :/ |
| 23:20.08 | zen_tral | thanx for the answer plasma |
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| 23:20.28 | zen_tral | thats i shame i quite like e16 |
| 23:21.02 | zen_tral | even if only for the fact that i can use transparencies for the menu |
| 23:21.38 | p1asma | i think you can do that in 17 too, but dunno |
| 23:21.49 | p1asma | i like e16 also much |
| 23:22.04 | p1asma | because of engage working there ;) and the lightweight at all |
| 23:22.12 | p1asma | good for old computers |
| 23:22.27 | zen_tral | yes and it also looks good |
| 23:22.34 | p1asma | but thanatermesis told me e16 broke in one of the last updates so he had to remove it |
| 23:22.35 | zen_tral | i also like the engage |
| 23:22.40 | p1asma | its really a pitty |
| 23:22.47 | zen_tral | ok i understand know |
| 23:22.52 | zen_tral | now |
| 23:23.15 | p1asma | :) |
| 23:23.23 | zen_tral | well may be it is possible to hack it somehow using the debian repos |
| 23:23.37 | keyra | zen_tral: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 23:23.42 | zen_tral | it'd be interesting to try |
| 23:23.57 | zen_tral | yeah you are right plasma |
| 23:24.17 | zen_tral | well we'll have to get used to e17 then.. |
| 23:24.37 | p1asma | well i want to try to hack e16 and engage out of elive gem into ubuntu |
| 23:24.42 | p1asma | that would be nice |
| 23:24.48 | p1asma | maybe, yeah |
| 23:25.32 | zen_tral | im not that kind on ubuntu really |
| 23:25.39 | zen_tral | are u using it? |
| 23:25.46 | p1asma | yeah im using it atm |
| 23:25.59 | zen_tral | how thats it work for u? |
| 23:26.07 | p1asma | it works very good |
| 23:26.21 | p1asma | no problems till now, except some with some crappy unstable software |
| 23:26.31 | p1asma | %) |
| 23:26.52 | zen_tral | well i dont really now why i dont like it.. |
| 23:27.06 | zen_tral | i used for a bit.. |
| 23:27.17 | p1asma | i used to dislike it because of the name and the image in beginning |
| 23:27.23 | zen_tral | but it doesnt feel quiite right for me for some reason |
| 23:27.41 | p1asma | but then some hackerfriends started to use it, so i thought it might be worth a look |
| 23:28.05 | zen_tral | yes there is a lot of hype about it |
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| 23:28.55 | zen_tral | there must be a reason for it |
| 23:29.07 | p1asma | and im quite ple |
| 23:29.10 | p1asma | pleased with it |
| 23:29.12 | p1asma | :) |
| 23:29.16 | zen_tral | but i think i'll stick with elive for a while |
| 23:29.31 | p1asma | i think of switching back to elive too |
| 23:29.37 | p1asma | maybe parallel use |
| 23:30.15 | zen_tral | is there something that u can do with ubuntu that u have not been able to do with elive? |
| 23:30.19 | p1asma | but the beta feeling in elive is still very superficial |
| 23:30.49 | p1asma | well, the repository is better i think |
| 23:30.50 | p1asma | thats all |
| 23:30.54 | zen_tral | ok |
| 23:31.13 | zen_tral | well they have a huge team and community |
| 23:31.21 | p1asma | in the end its just debian with a second hand managed repository |
| 23:31.26 | p1asma | right |
| 23:31.34 | zen_tral | and a wealthy sponsor |
| 23:31.35 | keyra | p1asma: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 23:32.50 | zen_tral | is there any body from london here? |
| 23:33.14 | zen_tral | im looking for a linux course...\ |
| 23:33.30 | zen_tral | but i dont seen to be able to find anything |
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| 23:33.39 | Elive_user73 | hello |
| 23:33.46 | zen_tral | i'd aprecciate any advice |
| 23:33.47 | Elive_user73 | can anzone help me_ |
| 23:34.00 | zen_tral | what is it? |
| 23:34.15 | zen_tral | user73? |
| 23:34.17 | Elive_user73 | oh, um, I can-t download anzthing |
| 23:34.27 | Elive_user73 | apart from photos..... |
| 23:34.31 | zen_tral | from the repos? |
| 23:34.43 | Elive_user73 | java, lime, morpheus...all fail to install |
| 23:34.45 | zen_tral | or from the internet? |
| 23:34.49 | Elive_user73 | net |
| 23:34.58 | Elive_user73 | I run elive from a cd..... |
| 23:35.06 | Elive_user73 | that might be the whole prob.... |
| 23:35.14 | zen_tral | yep |
| 23:35.18 | Elive_user73 | might it_ |
| 23:35.22 | Elive_user73 | right... |
| 23:35.38 | Elive_user73 | is there a loop/hole<? |
| 23:35.48 | zen_tral | u dont have a physical place to download the stuff to |
| 23:36.00 | Elive_user73 | like if I bring limewire on a usb storage device.... |
| 23:36.11 | zen_tral | i dont know user73 |
| 23:36.27 | Elive_user73 | ok, I see. ever_ I-ll have no place to do it, ever? |
| 23:36.28 | zen_tral | i never tried anything like that |
| 23:36.30 | Elive_user73 | ok |
| 23:36.32 | p1asma | elive_user73: do you have space left? usb or on hdd? |
| 23:36.59 | Elive_user73 | yeah, I have a 1GB usb key |
| 23:37.22 | p1asma | then it should be possible |
| 23:37.27 | Elive_user73 | will that work? |
| 23:37.27 | p1asma | there is a bootoption |
| 23:37.29 | Elive_user73 | wow |
| 23:37.32 | Elive_user73 | kewl |
| 23:37.41 | p1asma | tohda=device or something |
| 23:37.48 | p1asma | google for it |
| 23:37.50 | Elive_user73 | thank you zen/tral |
| 23:37.54 | Elive_user73 | btw |
| 23:37.54 | p1asma | i dont know much either |
| 23:38.10 | zen_tral | no problem good like |
| 23:38.13 | Elive_user73 | what tohda? |
| 23:38.37 | Elive_user73 | oh boot option. |
| 23:38.39 | zen_tral | good luck* |
| 23:38.41 | Elive_user73 | starting to get it |
| 23:38.43 | Elive_user73 | thanks |
| 23:39.06 | Elive_user73 | thank you |
| 23:39.25 | p1asma | tohd= and fromhd= |
| 23:39.38 | p1asma | np ;) |
| 23:40.13 | Elive_user73 | :_)) |
| 23:41.34 | Elive_user73 | so, if I download lime...or morpheus actually (easier) , I choose install on my usb device?? |
| 23:45.12 | zen_tral | user73 maybe to do stuff like that is easier to use puppy |
| 23:46.06 | zen_tral | it is build to make easy to save changes using the livecd |
| 23:46.07 | Elive_user73 | whats puppy? |
| 23:46.17 | zen_tral | it is another distro |
| 23:46.22 | zen_tral | puppy linux |
| 23:46.26 | zen_tral | very light |
| 23:46.29 | Elive_user73 | where can I get it?? |
| 23:47.04 | zen_tral | if u type puppy linux in searcher u'll find it |
| 23:47.18 | zen_tral | it is only a 87mb download |
| 23:47.20 | Elive_user73 | and i can just dwnload it? |
| 23:47.25 | zen_tral | yep |
| 23:47.39 | zen_tral | welcome to the linux world |
| 23:47.43 | Elive_user73 | i have like107mb i think |
| 23:48.05 | Elive_user73 | but still can-t dwnld morpheus...which is only 10 mb |
| 23:48.09 | zen_tral | that'll be plenty |
| 23:48.22 | Elive_user73 | does not compute lol |
| 23:48.35 | Elive_user73 | in my tiny austrlian brain |
| 23:48.47 | zen_tral | as i said that may be an issue because u are using the elive livecd |
| 23:48.55 | Elive_user73 | :-) |
| 23:48.59 | zen_tral | lol |
| 23:49.08 | Elive_user73 | ok but not puppy |
| 23:49.17 | zen_tral | no |
| 23:49.21 | Elive_user73 | even though I-m using a live cd |
| 23:49.36 | Elive_user73 | wow it sounded too good to be true. just checking |
| 23:49.43 | zen_tral | puppy is made so u can save ur work to hd or wherever |
| 23:49.48 | Elive_user73 | that-s real cool.thanks amil |
| 23:49.56 | zen_tral | no worries |
| 23:50.16 | Elive_user73 | mate |
| 23:50.18 | zen_tral | it is quite nice little distro lightweight and fast |
| 23:50.19 | Elive_user73 | lol |
| 23:50.28 | zen_tral | ;) |
| 23:50.32 | Elive_user73 | and what is hd? |
| 23:50.38 | zen_tral | hard disk |
| 23:50.42 | Elive_user73 | do i have it? |
| 23:50.55 | zen_tral | well i hope u do |
| 23:50.59 | Elive_user73 | do i have 107 mb or more....do you think |
| 23:51.00 | zen_tral | lol |
| 23:51.05 | Elive_user73 | yea |
| 23:51.22 | zen_tral | i have no idea how much free space u have |
| 23:51.41 | Elive_user73 | when dwnloading morph it told me i had 107mb |
| 23:51.57 | Elive_user73 | could i poss have more or is it hard to say? imposs to say... |
| 23:52.27 | Elive_user73 | originally on this comp I had......a few Gb |
| 23:52.44 | Elive_user73 | when i was using windows |
| 23:52.45 | zen_tral | what os do u normally use? |
| 23:53.33 | zen_tral | well it'd be good if u find out how much free sapce u have |
| 23:53.48 | AlexAnteMachina | uh... living people...! |
| 23:54.03 | zen_tral | bye alex |
| 23:56.05 | Elive_user73 | how do I do that?? |
| 23:56.28 | zen_tral | are u suing the livecd now? |
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| 23:58.00 | Elive_user73 | yes |
| 23:58.13 | zen_tral | do u know what thunar is? |
| 23:58.29 | Elive_user73 | trying to dwnl puppy on dsl mirror, but not working |
| 23:58.34 | Elive_user73 | uh nope |
| 23:59.03 | Elive_user73 | thunar.....never h of it |
| 23:59.08 | zen_tral | then go to the icon of a folder in the task bar |
| 23:59.17 | zen_tral | the 3rd one from the left |
| 23:59.23 | Elive_user73 | yep |
| 23:59.41 | zen_tral | open that and left hand side go to mnt |
