| 00:00.40 | roxville | ya vector was one of the first i tried... but it vener clicked for me until i found the apt system |
| 00:01.03 | roxville | vener = never |
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| 00:01.48 | roxville | and elive's dev, Thanatermesis is a master at setting up enlightenment... he even hacks it a little to make it better |
| 00:02.27 | peeps | gah! |
| 00:02.53 | peeps | my cd drive isn't responding |
| 00:02.53 | peeps | freaking suse |
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| 00:04.54 | roxville | :/ |
| 00:05.02 | roxville | apt, kill suse |
| 00:05.03 | apt | ACTION shoots a inverse anti-tachyon gun at suse |
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| 00:11.31 | peeps | well i certainly can't use elive until my cdrom is recognized by k3b so i can burn the iso |
| 00:12.28 | roxville | apt kill k3b |
| 00:12.28 | apt | ACTION shoots a charged anti-meson gun at k3b |
| 00:13.00 | peeps | what games have you guys been playing? |
| 00:18.40 | roxville | i don't play games... i play with gimp |
| 00:18.47 | roxville | is a boring type |
| 00:19.07 | roxville | :) |
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| 00:22.15 | AlexAnteMachina | hi everybody! |
| 00:22.55 | Wizard | hello all |
| 00:22.57 | Wizard | hi AlexAnteMachina |
| 00:23.07 | AlexAnteMachina | hi Wizard |
| 00:23.58 | Wizard | what's up? |
| 00:24.01 | AlexAnteMachina | hey Wizard, whats up? |
| 00:24.05 | AlexAnteMachina | *gg* |
| 00:24.08 | AlexAnteMachina | nightshift? |
| 00:24.49 | Wizard | yup |
| 00:24.55 | Wizard | one of my last, iirc |
| 00:26.37 | Wizard | lol, i've found cool song :) |
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| 00:26.54 | AlexAnteMachina | iirc? |
| 00:26.59 | AlexAnteMachina | and what cool song? |
| 00:27.01 | peeps | roxville: i plugged in an external usb cd drive that will fix the problem |
| 00:27.10 | peeps | i guess suse sensed that i was going to delete it |
| 00:27.22 | peeps | and rebelled in the only way it knew, by keeping me from burning the iso |
| 00:27.32 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 00:27.55 | Wizard | kangaroz - kolorowe sny (Just 5 cover) :P |
| 00:28.03 | Wizard | just 5 was a boysband |
| 00:28.10 | Wizard | in mid 90' |
| 00:28.19 | AlexAnteMachina | use gparted. I will delete everything. |
| 00:28.51 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard: ??? never heard about them. |
| 00:29.17 | peeps | what exactly is experimental in the dev ver of elive? |
| 00:29.20 | Wizard | you couldn't, they were popular in Poland for very short time |
| 00:29.51 | Wizard | and i've found nu metal cover of one of their songs :P |
| 00:31.02 | AlexAnteMachina | nu metal? |
| 00:31.05 | Wizard | yeah |
| 00:31.06 | AlexAnteMachina | holy crap! |
| 00:31.21 | AlexAnteMachina | deliver us from nu metal! |
| 00:31.25 | Wizard | i don't like nu metal, but that song is just funny :) |
| 00:31.55 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. |
| 00:31.57 | peeps | aah, the nostagia |
| 00:31.58 | peeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I7vPbthvWo |
| 00:32.45 | peeps | brb, rebooting to install the dev version of gem |
| 00:34.01 | Wizard | :) |
| 00:36.33 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard: I'm about to create a german elivewebsite with how-to's and guidelines for newbies. |
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| 00:38.36 | Wizard | :) |
| 00:38.43 | Wizard | no speak german |
| 00:38.59 | Wizard | neither other languages |
| 00:39.07 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 00:39.19 | Wizard | ;) |
| 00:46.15 | AlexAnteMachina | i dont speak polish |
| 00:47.22 | Wizard | szkoda :) |
| 00:47.26 | Wizard | sam tu jestem |
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| 00:50.54 | AlexAnteMachina | szkoda means what a pity |
| 00:51.34 | AlexAnteMachina | ale nevim "sam tu jestem" |
| 00:51.46 | AlexAnteMachina | knows litte czech |
| 00:51.54 | peeps | roxville, i am currently in the livecd |
| 00:52.01 | roxville | yay! |
| 00:52.06 | peeps | roxville, what do you suggest for installation now |
| 00:52.10 | peeps | roxville, what ver are you using? |
| 00:52.10 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard: ? |
| 00:52.18 | roxville | i had to put my daughter to bed, sorry for the delay |
| 00:52.30 | peeps | its cool, i just got on |
| 00:52.35 | roxville | ok |
| 00:52.59 | roxville | peeps, /J #eliveinstall |
| 00:53.19 | peeps | roxville, im there |
| 00:53.42 | roxville | lol, maybe i should go there too :D |
| 00:53.58 | peeps | roxville, perhaps! |
| 00:56.39 | Wizard | :D |
| 00:56.45 | Wizard | 3am |
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| 00:57.24 | anandamide | hey rox |
| 00:57.33 | roxville | hey anandamide :) |
| 00:57.38 | roxville | how's it going? |
| 00:57.40 | anandamide | hey everyone |
| 00:57.50 | anandamide | im going to take the eliveinstaller jump |
| 00:57.58 | anandamide | gotta get the cd now |
| 00:58.16 | roxville | :) |
| 00:59.02 | anandamide | so what if i have only the iso? can i loop it and use it that way? |
| 00:59.13 | anandamide | or do i have to burn a cd? |
| 00:59.41 | anandamide | cool, only 1 hour remaining =D |
| 01:00.00 | Wizard | hi anandamide |
| 01:00.05 | anandamide | hey wizard |
| 01:00.30 | roxville | anandamide, /J #eliveinstall |
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| 01:28.40 | |ast| | Thanatermesis: hola |
| 01:28.54 | keyra | |ast|: que tal ? |
| 01:29.01 | |ast| | Thanatermesis: cual ambient para escuchar desde audacious? |
| 01:29.01 | roxville | |ast|, he went to bed |
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| 01:39.02 | anandamide | i wish you could have xchat display multiple rooms without having to switch tabs |
| 01:39.37 | roxville | anandamide, i guess you can... if you open multiple xchats |
| 01:40.05 | roxville | anandamide, if you right-click on a tab, you have a "detach" option |
| 01:40.16 | roxville | or maybe not in gem's xchat version |
| 01:40.52 | anandamide | yes but its cluttery |
| 01:40.56 | anandamide | thansk though |
| 01:41.14 | |ast| | hola roxville |
| 01:41.16 | |ast| | :) |
| 01:41.26 | roxville | hey |ast| :) |
| 01:41.29 | keyra | |ast|: que tal ? |
| 01:41.32 | roxville | que tal? |
| 01:41.35 | roxville | lol |
| 01:41.36 | |ast| | bien |
| 01:41.43 | roxville | muy bien, amigo... et tu? |
| 01:41.46 | |ast| | keyra: callate de puta perra barata peruana! |
| 01:41.50 | roxville | lol, ok |
| 01:41.58 | keyra | roxville: yo perfecta :) |
| 01:42.00 | |ast| | estoy todo bien |
| 01:42.12 | keyra | |ast|: puta tu madre, cabron :P |
| 01:42.14 | roxville | :) |
| 01:42.23 | anandamide | que lengua sucia |
| 01:42.42 | |ast| | keyra: callate con tu boca pegada de la polla! |
| 01:44.49 | anandamide | um, my battery is at 107% ???? |
| 01:45.06 | roxville | anandamide, that's awesome!!! |
| 01:45.14 | roxville | :D |
| 01:45.19 | anandamide | =D |
| 01:45.30 | |ast| | elive pasa a awesome? :o |
| 01:45.33 | anandamide | and climbing |
| 01:46.16 | anandamide | communit-E |
| 01:47.24 | roxville | lol |
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| 02:39.21 | peeps | what method do you guys use to burn .avi files to dvd movie? |
| 02:39.43 | peeps | ive been using tovid, but it seems like theres a broken dependency in the repo, and i don't feel like hunting it down |
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| 04:32.09 | roxville | is away: in bed |
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| 05:17.34 | Elive_user78 | hi anyone that could tell me where i can get a good msn for elive gem |
| 05:17.37 | Elive_user78 | 1.0 |
| 05:17.50 | Elive_user78 | or a website with the programs i need |
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| 05:49.00 | wasynyt | good morning people |
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| 06:20.14 | peeps | is away: sleepytime |
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| 06:54.08 | Elive_user29_fr | bonjour |
| 06:58.26 | odile100 | vous allez bien |
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| 07:34.42 | anandamide | hello |
| 07:35.01 | anandamide | anyone know how to disable double click on elive? |
| 07:35.19 | anandamide | whenever i click on a titlebar it rolls up |
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| 08:52.44 | Elive_user94 | Hello |
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| 09:35.03 | Elive_user43 | Hello |
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| 11:00.04 | MetaPhaze | LinuxNIT, you there? |
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| 11:02.19 | Wasynyt_mobile | Good afternoon people |
| 11:02.44 | MetaPhaze | hello wasynyt |
| 11:03.10 | Wasynyt_mobile | How are you doing? |
| 11:03.28 | MetaPhaze | would be better if i could get some help with this python code |
| 11:03.35 | MetaPhaze | how about you... long time no see |
| 11:04.08 | Wasynyt_mobile | Sitting at work at the moment.. And a little bored |
| 11:04.16 | MetaPhaze | know any python? |
| 11:04.32 | Wasynyt_mobile | Sorry that i cant help you with python, i am no coder |
| 11:04.59 | Wasynyt_mobile | :/ |
| 11:05.02 | MetaPhaze | :D |
| 11:05.27 | MetaPhaze | i'm in 4 channels and no one can help it seems... the sad part is 2 of them are python coding channels |
| 11:05.37 | Wasynyt_mobile | Out of curiosity, what are you trying to do with python? |
| 11:06.59 | MetaPhaze | i'm using the Tkinter library... python is windows and linux compatable, so i can write gui applications with python and Tk... i have a Neverwinter Nights persistent world.. and i'm trying to write an application to work with the database allowing real time additions of crafting recipes to my world |
| 11:07.13 | keyra | MetaPhaze: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 11:07.27 | Wasynyt_mobile | Sounds really interesting |
| 11:07.46 | MetaPhaze | keyra, though your a bot... i know this i only use linux... gentoo in fact... it's my players that use windows |
| 11:07.48 | MetaPhaze | ;) |
| 11:08.00 | keyra | MetaPhaze: me ? |
| 11:08.05 | MetaPhaze | lol |
| 11:08.12 | MetaPhaze | apt slap keyra |
| 11:08.13 | apt | ACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 11:08.26 | keyra | MetaPhaze: But... is true... :( |
| 11:08.37 | Wasynyt_mobile | Heh |
| 11:08.52 | MetaPhaze | Wasynyt_mobile, yeah it's great fun... ever played neverwinter nights? |
| 11:09.06 | MetaPhaze | Wasynyt_mobile, or diablo 2? or Ultima Online? |
| 11:09.48 | Wasynyt_mobile | I have tried never winter nights.. But it wasnt my thing.. |
| 11:10.19 | MetaPhaze | ah, well, I've taken Neverwinter nights and turned it into my own MMORPG |
| 11:11.05 | MetaPhaze | I've coded everything myself... except for a few tools off the vault and so basically you can do almost anything in that game that you can do in real life.. including making your own items |
| 11:11.12 | Wasynyt_mobile | Hmm sounds very impressive, how complete it is? My brother is a somewhat addicted to nwn |
| 11:11.24 | MetaPhaze | check out my website |
| 11:11.30 | MetaPhaze | http://mystrixonline.com/ |
| 11:11.50 | Wasynyt_mobile | I might want to hint him about your work.. Even tho he cant play it at the moment |
| 11:11.50 | MetaPhaze | it's nearing completion |
| 11:12.18 | Wasynyt_mobile | Nah i wont visit web sites with my mobile.. |
| 11:12.24 | MetaPhaze | we have steady players... and in a month or two will probably be back up to 69 players as one of the old PW's come down |
| 11:13.05 | MetaPhaze | write down that address.. it's all you need... all the information is there on the site including information on all the additional races i've added |
| 11:13.13 | Wasynyt_mobile | Hmm is it more about roleplaying or slaying monsters? |
| 11:13.35 | Wasynyt_mobile | I just writted down the address |
| 11:13.44 | MetaPhaze | it's an RP server... but we focus on making it realistic |
| 11:13.56 | Wasynyt_mobile | Sounds nice |
| 11:14.05 | MetaPhaze | there are over 1800 custom monsters to fight... as well as full pvp |
| 11:14.33 | Wasynyt_mobile | You have done quite a lot work |
| 11:15.10 | MetaPhaze | yeah, me and the few people i've had to help me have been working on this for over a year now... there are over 300 areas to explore at the moment and it's growing |
| 11:15.52 | MetaPhaze | 50 custom tilesets that will take your breath away as you play... the nwn engine is quite powerful |
| 11:15.58 | MetaPhaze | for an old engine |
| 11:16.24 | Wasynyt_mobile | Sounds good.. But the are system is not as good in nwn as it could be, quite a lot of area loading |
| 11:16.48 | Wasynyt_mobile | Yeah nwn is famous for its engine |
| 11:16.51 | MetaPhaze | yeah... that's the only part that sucks... but with a system like mine that isn't really a problem |
| 11:17.39 | Wasynyt_mobile | You have made all the areas so huge that loading is not needed ? |
| 11:18.40 | LinuxNIT | morning MetaPhaze |
| 11:19.02 | MetaPhaze | morning LinuxNIT long time no see |
| 11:19.07 | Wasynyt_mobile | Good afternoon LinuxNIT |
| 11:19.27 | MetaPhaze | Wasynyt_mobile, i have made most of my areas 16x16.. so yeah you don't have to load too much |
| 11:19.33 | MetaPhaze | some are 32x32 |
| 11:19.38 | MetaPhaze | pretty big |
| 11:19.39 | LinuxNIT | its been a while |
| 11:19.42 | Wasynyt_mobile | Good solution |
| 11:19.43 | LinuxNIT | how are you doing? |
| 11:19.53 | MetaPhaze | LinuxNIT, good... i've taken up a past time of yours |
| 11:19.58 | LinuxNIT | morning Wasynyt_mobile |
| 11:19.59 | MetaPhaze | python and Tk |
| 11:20.02 | Wasynyt_mobile | is doing well |
| 11:20.18 | LinuxNIT | python :) tk :( |
| 11:20.24 | MetaPhaze | yeah |
| 11:20.28 | LinuxNIT | gtk is better ;) |
| 11:20.31 | LinuxNIT | imho |
| 11:20.34 | MetaPhaze | well i just found the answer to my tk problem |
| 11:20.42 | MetaPhaze | yeah but is gtk windows compatable? |
| 11:20.49 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 11:20.59 | MetaPhaze | how much installation is required? |
| 11:21.06 | LinuxNIT | dunno |
| 11:21.27 | MetaPhaze | cause tk and python was like 2 installs that took less than a second each |
| 11:21.45 | MetaPhaze | i don't care for windows, but the people i'm writing apps for are |
| 11:21.46 | Wasynyt_mobile | That sounds reasonable |
| 11:21.58 | LinuxNIT | tk just gave me lots of trouble when i was using it when versions were updated |
| 11:22.04 | MetaPhaze | ahh |
| 11:22.13 | MetaPhaze | it's giving me problems too but i just found the answer |
| 11:22.31 | LinuxNIT | :) |
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| 11:22.35 | MetaPhaze | did you give up on tk LinuxNIT ? |
| 11:22.43 | MetaPhaze | or python programming rather |
| 11:22.47 | LinuxNIT | yes i moved to gtk |
| 11:22.52 | LinuxNIT | im still using python |
| 11:22.59 | MetaPhaze | cool |
| 11:23.08 | MetaPhaze | well if you every need a hand i know it now too ;) |
| 11:23.14 | MetaPhaze | and a lot of C++ as well |
| 11:23.15 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 11:23.19 | Thybo | hey LinuxNIT hey MetaPhaze :) |
| 11:23.28 | MetaPhaze | Thybo, hi :) |
| 11:23.31 | LinuxNIT | howdy Thybo |
| 11:23.32 | Wasynyt_mobile | Good afternoon Thybo |
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| 11:23.41 | Thybo | hey Wasynyt_mobile :) |
| 11:23.47 | Thybo | how mobile are you Wasynyt_mobile ;) |
| 11:23.48 | Thybo | ? |
| 11:23.57 | MetaPhaze | if you need to know any MySQL i learned that as well... going to conquer django soon here too |
| 11:24.25 | Wasynyt_mobile | Thybo fully mobile, irc on my nokia e61i |
| 11:24.29 | LinuxNIT | you must have a ton of time available |
| 11:24.44 | MetaPhaze | LinuxNIT, i get paid to stay home ;) |
| 11:24.46 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, nice |
| 11:24.52 | Thybo | hehe wahhhh |
| 11:24.57 | Wasynyt_mobile | Yeah |
| 11:25.07 | Thybo | opera update |
| 11:25.07 | Thybo | :) |
| 11:25.08 | LinuxNIT | MetaPhaze, cool |
| 11:25.14 | Thybo | let's check it out |
| 11:25.20 | Thybo | hope it fixes bug with fb chat :p |
| 11:25.21 | Thybo | hee |
| 11:25.57 | LinuxNIT | MetaPhaze, how long has it been anyway... since we talked |
| 11:26.04 | Thybo | thinks everyone should update to ff 3 :p |
| 11:26.28 | Wasynyt_mobile | Hmm |
| 11:27.30 | MetaPhaze | almost a year since i have been here.. i've gotten more people interested in running linux since then so i am now starting to write my own programs to configure different parts of it |
| 11:27.46 | MetaPhaze | I've even spread elive around here like the plague |
| 11:27.58 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 11:27.59 | Thybo | hehe |
| 11:28.01 | Thybo | yeah |
| 11:28.05 | Wasynyt_mobile | That should not be too hard |
| 11:28.09 | MetaPhaze | problem is my elive is out of date |
| 11:28.12 | MetaPhaze | i need a new one |
| 11:28.15 | Thybo | i prefer the zombies in war 3 also :d |
| 11:28.18 | MetaPhaze | he needs an update system |
| 11:28.31 | Wasynyt_mobile | would recomend asking thana about it |
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| 11:29.32 | Thybo | wonders what they are talking about ;) |
| 11:30.05 | Wasynyt_mobile | :P |
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| 11:33.14 | LinuxNIT | so MetaPhaze what kind of config tools do you have so far? |
| 11:37.05 | MetaPhaze | well this is my first one... it's used to configure my Neverwinter Nights server |
| 11:37.06 | MetaPhaze | brb |
| 11:37.32 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 11:38.52 | Thybo | lol LinuxNIT :p |
| 11:39.39 | Thybo | wondres on installing ubuntu to his hd to test it coz he hasn't done it in a while.. |
| 11:39.43 | Thybo | wonders* |
| 11:40.12 | Wasynyt_mobile | fears the worst |
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| 11:40.17 | Thybo | wonders why |
| 11:41.01 | Thybo | what could happen ?:p |
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| 11:41.50 | Wasynyt_mobile | What could not happen.. But i guess it will be about the same as every other distro |
| 11:41.52 | Thybo | coz i would test the new installer |
| 11:42.00 | Thybo | but |
| 11:42.07 | Thybo | i can't looze anything on my hard drive atm |
| 11:42.08 | Thybo | so |
| 11:42.17 | Thybo | i'll wait till i make an upgrade |
| 11:43.09 | Thybo | i mean a backup |
| 11:43.11 | Thybo | is tired : |
| 11:43.13 | Thybo | :p |
| 11:43.16 | Thybo | and talking alone |
| 11:43.16 | Thybo | :p |
| 11:43.50 | Wasynyt_mobile | Heh.. Then testing might not be so good choise |
| 11:48.01 | MetaPhaze | gentoo! |
| 11:48.05 | MetaPhaze | no ubuntu1 |
| 11:48.06 | MetaPhaze | ! |
| 11:48.22 | MetaPhaze | Dare to say no to Ubuntu! |
| 11:49.13 | Wasynyt_mobile | Nah all the same |
| 11:50.20 | MetaPhaze | yeah i know... i've never run ubuntu |
| 11:50.49 | MetaPhaze | i refuse... it's bad enough i get all the dell pos computers back from people... i don't need to run dells crap lol |
| 11:51.30 | FossZombie | Ubuntu isn't all that bad. I had to use it at work. Its a hell of a lot better than windows |
| 11:52.02 | MetaPhaze | anything is better than windows |
| 11:52.14 | FossZombie | not true |
| 11:52.28 | MetaPhaze | i'd use Dos 6.22 over windows |
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| 11:53.29 | MetaPhaze | heck, i'd pull out my copy of dos 1.0 over windows |
| 11:53.43 | keyra | MetaPhaze: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 11:53.54 | MetaPhaze | lol that's twice today keyra |
| 11:54.25 | FossZombie | reactos =) |
| 11:54.38 | MetaPhaze | will build you a complete gentoo linux laptop and everything will work |
| 11:54.42 | Wasynyt_mobile | Hmm.. |
| 11:54.47 | MetaPhaze | even if it is a dell |
| 11:54.52 | keyra | MetaPhaze: you are doing elive translations ? NICE! |
| 11:54.52 | MetaPhaze | heck mine is a dell |
| 11:55.19 | MetaPhaze | no keyra, i promote elive though ;) i release it on any new or used pc i sell |
| 11:55.39 | MetaPhaze | doesn't support windows |
| 11:56.50 | FossZombie | the funny thing is MS likes to shoot themselves in the foot, they have the resources and even pre-existing code to win, but they choose fail |
| 11:57.30 | Wasynyt_mobile | Well winning is not easy.. It requires vision |
| 11:57.34 | MetaPhaze | heh... i don't think they care too much... they are a corporation.... tell me the last time a corp cared |
| 11:58.05 | MetaPhaze | when i worked for a corporation i didn't care if i printed 3000 bad pc world magazines |
| 11:58.12 | MetaPhaze | i did my job and went home |
| 11:58.19 | MetaPhaze | same with MS |
| 11:58.28 | MetaPhaze | Linux has heart |
| 11:58.37 | MetaPhaze | Linux has soul |
| 11:58.37 | Wasynyt_mobile | Hmm.. That sounds like a poor corp |
| 11:58.57 | MetaPhaze | the biggest magazine corp around here.. has all the big labels |
| 11:58.59 | MetaPhaze | playboy |
| 11:59.00 | MetaPhaze | hustler |
| 11:59.03 | MetaPhaze | pc world |
| 11:59.07 | MetaPhaze | mac world, you name it |
| 11:59.30 | MetaPhaze | if you can buy it on the shelf i've printed it |
| 12:00.12 | MetaPhaze | that's why i don't work for corporations.. that and corporations promote unemployment |
| 12:00.15 | MetaPhaze | and slavery |
| 12:00.33 | Wasynyt_mobile | Hmm.. So you have done some printing work.. But i doubt they sell them in finland |
| 12:00.45 | MetaPhaze | you don't get PC World magazine? |
| 12:00.54 | MetaPhaze | or Playboy? |
| 12:01.22 | MetaPhaze | Most of the corporations here are iso certified to sell overseas |
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| 12:01.45 | MetaPhaze | and some of the corporations aren't even owned by people or companies in the USA |
| 12:01.58 | MetaPhaze | just another reason to not work for them |
| 12:02.32 | MetaPhaze | if everyone worked for themselves the unemployment office wouldn't be full |
| 12:02.34 | Wasynyt_mobile | Playboy comes here.. But i wonder if it is printed in us |
| 12:03.05 | MetaPhaze | No idea really... it wouldn't be cost effective |
| 12:03.10 | MetaPhaze | so i doubt it |
| 12:03.31 | Wasynyt_mobile | Heh.. Well companies are rather good |
| 12:03.54 | MetaPhaze | corporations are only interested in profit... if they can eliminate a job they will... and use a machine or force the work on someone who already does something for the company |
| 12:03.59 | Wasynyt_mobile | If everyone would work for themselfs there would be even more papers to fill |
| 12:04.07 | Wasynyt_mobile | :S |
| 12:04.47 | MetaPhaze | I was downsized from Electrolux 4 years ago |
| 12:04.58 | Wasynyt_mobile | Hmm.. That is not really good for long term |
| 12:04.59 | MetaPhaze | they gave my job to a robot |
| 12:05.09 | Wasynyt_mobile | Too bad |
| 12:05.12 | MetaPhaze | no |
| 12:05.14 | MetaPhaze | too good |
| 12:05.17 | MetaPhaze | now i work at home |
| 12:05.23 | MetaPhaze | i have all the free time i want |
| 12:05.42 | MetaPhaze | i get paid to go to the park with my kids.. heck i'm getting paid to talk to you right now ;) |
| 12:05.45 | MetaPhaze | and i have no boss |
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| 12:07.33 | Wasynyt_mobile | :/ |
| 12:08.22 | Wasynyt_mobile | What kind of job you have |
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| 12:09.20 | MetaPhaze | I design and build web sites... i set up linux servers... email servers... wireless internet... anything that has to do with computers i do it... for who ever wants it done |
| 12:09.38 | MetaPhaze | If someone needs their car fixed i fix it |
| 12:09.42 | MetaPhaze | etc |
| 12:09.47 | MetaPhaze | i do what there is to do |
| 12:09.59 | Wasynyt_mobile | So you are a generic handyman |
| 12:10.25 | MetaPhaze | well technically i'm an electronic repair technician |
| 12:10.40 | DammitJim | is an electronic repair technician, too |
| 12:10.48 | MetaPhaze | if you want to know what i went to school for... but i've always been a jack of all trades |
| 12:10.51 | DammitJim | I hope you live in another continent so we aren't direct competitors |
| 12:10.52 | DammitJim | ;) |
| 12:11.01 | MetaPhaze | DammitJim, he he |
| 12:11.03 | DammitJim | good morning Wasynyt_mobile & MetaPhaze |
| 12:11.08 | MetaPhaze | DammitJim, where do you live? |
| 12:11.12 | DammitJim | Florida |
| 12:11.13 | DammitJim | you? |
| 12:11.14 | MetaPhaze | good morning |
| 12:11.18 | MetaPhaze | Minnesota |
| 12:11.20 | DammitJim | likes jacks |
| 12:11.52 | MetaPhaze | so we're a few states away (about 20 hours ;) ) |
| 12:11.57 | Wasynyt_mobile | Good afternoon |
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| 12:12.02 | DammitJim | yeah, that works ;) |
| 12:12.11 | DammitJim | was afraid of MetaPhaze 'cause he offers better prices |
| 12:12.12 | DammitJim | lol |
| 12:12.16 | DammitJim | brb.. have to make a copy |
| 12:12.21 | MetaPhaze | lol |
| 12:12.29 | Wasynyt_mobile | Heh |
| 12:12.36 | DammitJim | Wasynyt_mobile, when did 1.7.9 get out? |
| 12:12.45 | Wasynyt_mobile | :D |
| 12:14.23 | Wasynyt_mobile | I think that it was released some time ago.. |
| 12:14.32 | Wasynyt_mobile | Its not old tho |
| 12:15.46 | LinuxNIT | notices the date on the file is july 4th d |
| 12:16.02 | LinuxNIT | elive_1.7.9_unstable..> 04-Jul-2008 02:08 692M |
| 12:16.17 | Wasynyt_mobile | Thanks LinuxNIT |
| 12:16.25 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 12:17.01 | MetaPhaze | what is the new elive called? |
| 12:17.05 | DammitJim | oh... 4th of july.. tha'ts why |
| 12:17.06 | DammitJim | ;) |
| 12:17.16 | MetaPhaze | i have revolution how many versions am I behind? |
| 12:17.41 | LinuxNIT | 1 current stable is Gem |
| 12:18.01 | MetaPhaze | gem? |
| 12:18.03 | MetaPhaze | really? |
| 12:18.11 | LinuxNIT | ya |
| 12:18.12 | MetaPhaze | i thought gem was before revolution? |
| 12:18.32 | MetaPhaze | ok, then i'm ok... i gave that person the wrong elive lol |
| 12:18.41 | MetaPhaze | have to call them up and fix it |
| 12:18.52 | LinuxNIT | what version number is revolution? |
| 12:19.01 | MetaPhaze | dunno, i never use it |
| 12:19.02 | DammitJim | revolution was like 0.6.7 |
| 12:19.03 | Wasynyt_mobile | Heh |
| 12:19.51 | LinuxNIT | yes website still says Gem... MetaPhaze you had me doubting myself |
| 12:20.34 | MetaPhaze | heh |
| 12:21.01 | Wasynyt_mobile | :D |
| 12:21.11 | MetaPhaze | i burnt them the revolution iso... thinking it was the newest... |
| 12:21.36 | MetaPhaze | i should delete that iso |
| 12:21.50 | DammitJim | keeps all isos... sorta |
| 12:21.50 | DammitJim | lol |
| 12:21.53 | MetaPhaze | it's hard to keep it all straight with 1.5 terabytes of storage |
| 12:22.13 | MetaPhaze | my drives are a mess |
| 12:22.15 | DammitJim | is that you who hosts some of those mirrors? |
| 12:22.28 | MetaPhaze | it would take me weeks to clean it all |
| 12:22.34 | MetaPhaze | no |
| 12:22.37 | Wasynyt_mobile | deletes them when he runs out of space |
| 12:22.39 | MetaPhaze | i do backup hosting |
| 12:22.55 | MetaPhaze | i encrypt and store peoples backups |
| 12:22.59 | MetaPhaze | remotely |
| 12:23.48 | MetaPhaze | i guess the technical term for what i do is Independent Contracting |
| 12:38.35 | FossZombie | lol why did I put e cvs in temp |
| 12:39.44 | Wasynyt_mobile | You did what ? |
| 12:39.48 | FossZombie | MetaPhaze, your job would be Computer Consulting: Recovery and Security |
| 12:40.20 | MetaPhaze | FossZombie, some of it... but when i work on cars... that doesn't really fit... and if i fix your vcr/dvd player that doesn't really fit either |
| 12:40.35 | FossZombie | wasynyt, i moved all my snapshots to a tmp directory instead of the right directory because i'm dumb |
| 12:40.50 | MetaPhaze | I do contract work for anyone... i will do nearly anything... that i know how to do |
| 12:41.05 | FossZombie | Technology and Mechanics Consultant |
| 12:41.07 | Wasynyt_mobile | Nicely done |
| 12:41.10 | DammitJim | the tmp directory is dangerous! |
| 12:41.15 | FossZombie | no its safe |
| 12:41.15 | MetaPhaze | FossZombie, that works |
| 12:41.18 | DammitJim | just don't reboot |
| 12:41.32 | FossZombie | I'm not used to using graphical copy |
| 12:41.37 | FossZombie | if it's not mv im lost |
| 12:41.43 | DammitJim | lol |
| 12:41.57 | DammitJim | what's the command for a recursive move? |
| 12:42.08 | DammitJim | cp -R this that |
| 12:42.11 | DammitJim | you can't do |
| 12:42.14 | DammitJim | mv -R this that |
| 12:42.15 | DammitJim | can you? |
| 12:42.33 | Wasynyt_mobile | o |
| 12:42.34 | FossZombie | I just have shell scripts |
| 12:42.57 | DammitJim | a move shell script, FossZombie ? |
| 12:43.02 | Wasynyt_mobile | You can do cp -R && rm -R |
| 12:43.20 | FossZombie | i gota better one |
| 12:43.25 | DammitJim | yeah, that's what I always do |
| 12:43.28 | FossZombie | merge two directories in a single command |
| 12:43.36 | DammitJim | but was wondering if FossZombie has a different one since he mentions mv |
| 12:43.45 | DammitJim | how is that, FossZombie ? |
| 12:45.25 | FossZombie | you can actually use rsync |
| 12:45.32 | FossZombie | use 2 local directories |
| 12:46.55 | FossZombie | anyways you know what I meant, but I do have shorthands for complex commands, like a one command to cp -R and rm |
| 12:47.11 | FossZombie | be careful because if it errors and says can not copy, then you rm, then you suck |
| 12:47.32 | FossZombie | data dies |
| 12:47.42 | FossZombie | i did that when i was a noob |
| 12:47.46 | FossZombie | once... |
| 12:48.19 | MetaPhaze | move is recursive... it will move entire directories... it won't however overwrite existing directories |
| 12:49.01 | MetaPhaze | rsync is your friend |
| 12:49.03 | DammitJim | move is recursive in itself? |
| 12:49.08 | MetaPhaze | both local and remote |
| 12:49.09 | FossZombie | rsync is more than a friend, its a hero |
| 12:49.42 | MetaPhaze | DammitJim, yes, if you have a directory /home/myuser/mydirectory and in that directory you have some files and directories |
| 12:49.51 | FossZombie | I know there was a problem on some very early version of slackware where mv was not recursive |
| 12:50.01 | DammitJim | hhmmmm |
| 12:50.01 | MetaPhaze | it will move everything if you say move mydirectory /some/other/location |
| 12:50.15 | MetaPhaze | however |
| 12:50.15 | DammitJim | gosh, I never knew |
| 12:50.18 | DammitJim | :) |
| 12:50.26 | FossZombie | but unless you are using something like a horridly interpreted emulator then mv should work fine |
| 12:50.28 | FossZombie | example |
| 12:50.36 | FossZombie | FTP clients that take unix commands |
| 12:50.41 | FossZombie | mv is NOT recursive in many |
| 12:50.46 | MetaPhaze | if you have another directory in /some/other/location that has the same name as mydirectory... the move will fail |
| 12:51.10 | FossZombie | yes, thats why cp is win |
| 12:52.06 | MetaPhaze | moves that happen in a gui, are fake moves (if you overwrite) |
| 12:52.10 | MetaPhaze | it uses two commands |
| 12:52.12 | MetaPhaze | cp |
| 12:52.14 | MetaPhaze | and rm |
| 12:52.25 | DammitJim | right |
| 12:52.32 | MetaPhaze | first it copies everything you want overwriting anything it is told to... then it rm the source |
| 12:52.32 | DammitJim | that's why I didn't think that mv was recursive |
| 12:52.36 | FossZombie | I'm thinking of going and buying some 1TB hard drives |
| 12:52.49 | DammitJim | 1TB HDDs are cheap! |
| 12:52.52 | MetaPhaze | those are nice, make sure to get the 10,000 rpm versions |
| 12:53.00 | DammitJim | but I wouldn't know what to put in them |
| 12:53.00 | FossZombie | 160$ |
| 12:53.04 | FossZombie | for seagate |
| 12:53.21 | MetaPhaze | my hard drives are the only thing slowing me down |
| 12:53.28 | FossZombie | velociraptor 300gb 10k RPM are 300$ |
| 12:53.37 | FossZombie | but I don't trust western digital enough |
| 12:53.41 | FossZombie | to spend more than 5$ |
| 12:53.52 | MetaPhaze | sata 2 7200 rpms... and boy using them on this quad core is slow1 |
| 12:53.53 | MetaPhaze | ! |
| 12:54.22 | FossZombie | If I got 4 1TB |
| 12:54.38 | FossZombie | raided them |
| 12:54.47 | MetaPhaze | yeah i don't trust wd much... they usually crap out |
| 12:54.55 | MetaPhaze | especially their maxtor brand |
| 12:54.59 | FossZombie | actually probably get 2 1tb hard drives and just raid0 striping |
| 12:55.10 | DammitJim | that's the least you should do! |
| 12:55.47 | FossZombie | seagate bought maxtor |
| 12:57.00 | FossZombie | the memo when they bought them said "we just didn't think it was right that such a company should exist" lol. They liquidated and re-tooled every factory and retrained everyone |
| 12:57.22 | DammitJim | that's funny |
| 12:57.31 | DammitJim | I've had good experience with Maxtor drives |
| 12:57.44 | DammitJim | but I've only had about 50 hdds go past my hands |
| 12:57.52 | FossZombie | seagate bought maxtor for patents not production |
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| 13:01.41 | FossZombie | i wish I had an installer for Elive64 |
| 13:01.50 | FossZombie | I'd add drivers and release it |
| 13:02.32 | FossZombie | I should figure that out, I'd like to share my cool system |
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| 13:03.14 | FossZombie | but I'll probably wipe it out and start with a brand new debian today, instead. (after getting 1tb hd going to run /dev/random over the old drive) |
| 13:03.37 | FossZombie | then /dev/zero |
| 13:05.05 | DammitJim | what are those, FossZombie ? /dev/random and /dev/zero |
| 13:06.41 | FossZombie | DammitJim, if you want to get rid of all traces of files |
| 13:06.52 | FossZombie | you need to scrable the drive with random shit |
| 13:07.01 | FossZombie | scramble* |
| 13:07.26 | DammitJim | oh |
| 13:07.30 | DammitJim | why do you want to do that, though? |
| 13:07.35 | DammitJim | aren't you reusing the drive? |
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| 13:07.40 | DammitJim | and what version of debian? |
| 13:07.45 | DammitJim | lenny? |
| 13:07.49 | FossZombie | then I /dev/zero it , by the way im using dd to do all this, and it will be written all 0's so later i can install a minimal os and set it up how I want and then back up the whole partition 1:1 |
| 13:08.12 | DammitJim | ;) |
| 13:08.17 | FossZombie | I might use ubuntu just to piss off elive fans that hate ubuntu |
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| 13:08.32 | DammitJim | thana doesn't like ubuntu |
| 13:08.36 | FossZombie | the post screenshots of a ugly gnome |
| 13:09.08 | FossZombie | is kidding |
| 13:09.35 | Wasynyt_mobi | :D |
| 13:09.54 | DammitJim | oh gosh |
| 13:09.55 | DammitJim | you got me |
| 13:11.14 | Wasynyt_mobi | Hmm |
| 13:13.21 | MetaPhaze | 50 hard drives?! |
| 13:13.42 | MetaPhaze | personally i haven't lost a single drive... but i've seen some bad old maxtors back in the 90's |
| 13:13.55 | MetaPhaze | never bought one since |
| 13:13.59 | MetaPhaze | i run all seagate |
| 13:14.41 | DammitJim | lol |
| 13:15.01 | MetaPhaze | i get most of my computer hardware free |
| 13:15.29 | MetaPhaze | the only thing i've bought this year is this evga 680I sli motherboard, and the quad core to go in it |
| 13:15.50 | MetaPhaze | oh |
| 13:15.54 | MetaPhaze | and the 2 gigs of ram |
| 13:15.58 | MetaPhaze | for the 1066 fsb |
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| 13:20.47 | MetaPhaze | Woot! |
| 13:20.55 | MetaPhaze | I got it running finally after 4 days! |
| 13:21.40 | Wasynyt_mobi | Nice |
| 13:21.52 | Wasynyt_mobi | That sounds like a great machine |
| 13:22.49 | MetaPhaze | it is |
| 13:23.06 | MetaPhaze | 2 gigs of ram, 1066 fsb.... the slowest thing in this box is the hard drives |
| 13:23.12 | MetaPhaze | i spend most of my time waiting for them |
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| 13:24.18 | ingnucious | Thanatermesis: hola como estas? |
| 13:24.32 | keyra | ingnucious: que tal ? |
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| 13:24.55 | ingnucious | keyra: ey como va? |
| 13:25.31 | Wasynyt_mobi | Keyra bot |
| 13:25.39 | ingnucious | Wasynyt_mobi: ups! ja |
| 13:26.22 | Wasynyt_mobi | :D |
| 13:26.28 | ingnucious | una pregunta... estamos organizando unas jornadas de software libre en San Luis (argentina) |
| 13:26.35 | ingnucious | y como uso regularmente elive... |
| 13:26.51 | Wasynyt_mobi | :S |
| 13:27.03 | ingnucious | queria saber si existe la posibilidad de conseguir algun representante para q lo presente en la jornada. |
| 13:27.12 | Wasynyt_mobi | Apt x en es i dont speak spanish |
| 13:28.10 | ingnucious | Wasynyt_mobi: sorry, my english it's like a horror movie. |
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| 13:29.31 | MetaPhaze | ¡Te tiene que ponerse en contacto con Thana |
| 13:29.37 | MetaPhaze | ingnucious, ^^ |
| 13:30.04 | ingnucious | MetaPhaze: existe alguna casilla de mail? |
| 13:30.08 | |ast| | hola ingnucious |
| 13:30.16 | ingnucious | |ast|: hola! |
| 13:30.28 | |ast| | ingnucious: si thanatermesis@gmail.com |
| 13:30.44 | ingnucious | thanx |
| 13:30.55 | ingnucious | ya le estoy escribiendo! :) |
| 13:30.59 | |ast| | :) |
| 13:31.10 | MetaPhaze | No sé su casilla de correo |
| 13:31.52 | DammitJim | miercoles... |
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| 13:44.33 | anandamide | hello |
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| 13:57.13 | anandamide | my mouse is acting up. r click wont work and draging windows always shades them |
| 13:57.20 | anandamide | can anyone help me? |
| 13:58.01 | keyra | anandamide: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 13:58.01 | anandamide | har har har =) |
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| 14:33.30 | Elive_user95_en | hi |
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| 14:38.20 | MetaPhaze | anyone have some really nice fonts? |
| 14:43.07 | Elive_user95_en | how do you look into an edj file? |
| 14:43.17 | Elive_user95_en | what command line utility do you use? |
| 14:43.25 | MetaPhaze | http://youtube.com/watch?v=vnIPvSj0ySk |
| 14:43.43 | MetaPhaze | Elive_user95_en, what is an edj file ? |
| 14:44.14 | Elive_user95_en | its a background that has some settings i can change |
| 14:44.29 | keyra | Elive_user95_en: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 14:44.50 | MetaPhaze | don't listen to that |
| 14:45.06 | MetaPhaze | Elive_user95_en, hold on i'll gather some information and help you |
| 14:45.37 | Elive_user95_en | thank you |
| 14:46.27 | Elive_user95_en | i can switch the background. it has some settings i can modify |
| 14:46.41 | Elive_user95_en | i just want to access them. all it says is look into the edj |
| 14:46.42 | MetaPhaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.44 | MetaPhaze | one sec |
| 14:46.51 | Elive_user95_en | hold on |
| 14:47.16 | MetaPhaze | you need an eap editor? |
| 14:47.32 | MetaPhaze | http://www1.get-e.org/E17_User_Guide/English/_pages/3.7.html |
| 14:48.00 | MetaPhaze | looks like enlightenment_eapp --help |
| 14:48.04 | MetaPhaze | will give you options |
| 14:48.06 | Elive_user95_en | Savrien - The speed is reduced so it consumes less cycles - but it's got a directive in the edc file so if you have capable hardware feel free to crank it up and drool. |
| 14:48.20 | Elive_user95_en | from e-org animated backgrounds |
| 14:48.39 | MetaPhaze | Elive_user95_en, try either eapp or enlightenment_eapp --help |
| 14:48.50 | Elive_user95_en | great, thanks a lot! |
| 14:49.03 | MetaPhaze | if that doesn't work let me know |
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| 14:55.26 | roxville | Elive_user95_en, edje_decc |
| 14:55.43 | roxville | hey gabe, how are you doing, bud? |
| 14:55.55 | roxville | i mean... MetaPhaze |
| 14:56.49 | roxville | MetaPhaze, i made a theme for you http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/Dukes?content=84077 |
| 15:00.04 | Elive_user95_en | when i click on the title bar of a window it shades |
| 15:00.11 | Elive_user95_en | im not dbl clicking |
| 15:00.33 | Elive_user95_en | is this normal? |
| 15:00.42 | roxville | no |
| 15:01.00 | roxville | it should be a double-click |
| 15:01.35 | roxville | you are on livecd, correct? |
| 15:02.42 | Elive_user95_en | nope |
| 15:02.49 | Elive_user95_en | on development |
| 15:02.54 | Elive_user95_en | installed to hd |
| 15:03.45 | Elive_user95_en | also what is aclocal part of? im trying to compile edje_editor and autogen.sh says that the command could not be found |
| 15:04.27 | Elive_user95_en | ./autogen.sh: line 6: aclocal: command not found |
| 15:05.19 | Elive_user95_en | rox why are you quiet? =) |
| 15:06.17 | MetaPhaze | roxville, crap... i don't run e17, i run e16... not even sure e17 and kde would get along? |
| 15:06.55 | anandamide | i registered my nick so long ago i dont know the pass anymore =/ |
| 15:07.32 | roxville | anandamide, <roxville> Elive_user95_en, edje_decc |
| 15:07.40 | roxville | is the command to open a edj |
| 15:07.44 | anandamide | =) |
| 15:08.26 | roxville | anandamide, in the config panel (NOT elpanel), you can set if you want single click or double click to shade |
| 15:08.27 | MetaPhaze | anyone know if e17 and kde can co-exist? without too much pain? |
| 15:08.38 | anandamide | i have seen it |
| 15:08.38 | roxville | MetaPhaze, yes they can |
| 15:08.47 | MetaPhaze | hmm |
| 15:08.52 | MetaPhaze | time to emerge e17 i guess |
| 15:09.06 | roxville | MetaPhaze, oh... gentoo? |
| 15:09.17 | MetaPhaze | was running compiz for two months but it's still got some issues |
| 15:09.18 | roxville | i have no idea what e17 version gentoo has |
| 15:09.22 | MetaPhaze | roxville, yep ;) |
| 15:09.31 | MetaPhaze | roxville, always cvs |
| 15:09.31 | keyra | MetaPhaze: xgl needs compiz WM, E is not compiz WM, the WM of E is E |
| 15:09.47 | MetaPhaze | keyra, yes i know this ;) |
| 15:09.49 | MetaPhaze | bot |
| 15:10.01 | roxville | but MetaPhaze thana hacked entrance nicely, and it now shows other wm's just fine |
| 15:10.02 | keyra | MetaPhaze: :) |
| 15:10.25 | roxville | but... that's elive |
| 15:10.29 | MetaPhaze | cool |
| 15:10.37 | roxville | i can not vouch for other distros |
| 15:10.47 | MetaPhaze | i run console decorations so i don't use a log in manager |
| 15:10.53 | roxville | ok |
| 15:11.29 | MetaPhaze | i boot with a screen that has this nice chick on it... the theme is called Psychotoxic.. its a bootsplash/loader screen for the linux framebuffer console |
| 15:11.47 | MetaPhaze | then after i am booted, she stays faded on my screen |
| 15:11.52 | MetaPhaze | so i just startx when i want to |
| 15:14.04 | anandamide | so how do i recompile the edj? |
| 15:14.31 | anandamide | edje_recc? |
| 15:21.46 | anandamide | got it. so my only problem is the shade when i grab a window by the title bar |
| 15:22.45 | anandamide | and my firefox is broken =/ |
| 15:22.52 | DammitJim | who broke it? |
| 15:22.59 | anandamide | i dunno |
| 15:23.14 | anandamide | right click does not work and the menu does not respond to mouse |
| 15:23.30 | anandamide | only keyboard |
| 15:23.42 | anandamide | i think im having many issues with my mouse is what i think |
| 15:24.11 | anandamide | its a tiny verbatim travelmouse |
| 15:24.23 | DammitJim | what version? 1.7.9? |
| 15:24.56 | anandamide | does not say, just "mini optical mouse" |
| 15:25.29 | anandamide | yup, trackpad works fine |
| 15:25.36 | anandamide | crappy mouse |
| 15:26.39 | DammitJim | lol |
| 15:26.51 | anandamide | =( |
| 15:27.15 | roxville | <anandamide> so how do i recompile the edj? |
| 15:27.26 | roxville | there should be a build.sh in the dir |
| 15:27.33 | roxville | you run that |
| 15:27.53 | roxville | and move the file.edj to the correct dir |
| 15:29.03 | anandamide | thanks rox |
| 15:29.57 | anandamide | i connected an intellimouse and have the same problem. i think this is a xorg mis config |
| 15:30.10 | DammitJim | it is |
| 15:30.16 | DammitJim | xorg is a mess right now... not sure why |
| 15:31.50 | anandamide | yup. just generic crap for my mouse |
| 15:36.30 | anandamide | is going to fiddle and reboot |
| 15:36.44 | anandamide | bbl |
| 15:36.51 | anandamide | thanks again rox |
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| 15:50.39 | Elive_user28_en | hello |
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| 15:51.33 | MetaPhaze | hmm |
| 15:56.17 | roxville | is away: pool with daughter |
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| 16:06.49 | Ananda | much better |
| 16:07.20 | Ananda | everything works so far |
| 16:08.25 | DammitJim | oh yeah? |
| 16:10.35 | Ananda | yup |
| 16:10.48 | Ananda | wireless, usb, sound, video, etc... |
| 16:11.07 | Ananda | just a problem with the battery gadget |
| 16:20.14 | FossZombie | Damn, I have to move out of California |
| 16:20.17 | FossZombie | this sucks |
| 16:20.23 | DammitJim | ? |
| 16:20.30 | FossZombie | There's a new reason to arrest people here. "Suspicion of engaging in lawful behavior." |
| 16:20.48 | DammitJim | or unlawful? |
| 16:20.52 | FossZombie | lawful |
| 16:21.07 | FossZombie | They've arrested quite a few people already |
| 16:21.20 | DammitJim | suspicion of engaging in lawful behavior? |
| 16:21.23 | DammitJim | that doesn't sound right |
| 16:21.53 | FossZombie | Yes, it's legal for them to charge you with crimes now, without actually having given proof or reason to suspect you have committed them |
| 16:22.12 | FossZombie | like Nazi Germany |
| 16:22.40 | wasynyt | :S |
| 16:22.45 | wasynyt | that sounds evik |
| 16:22.47 | wasynyt | *evil |
| 16:23.00 | FossZombie | in court even if you did nothing wrong they try to badmouth you and convince a jury you are a bad person so they convict you of what you have not done |
| 16:23.33 | wasynyt | how can such thing be allowed |
| 16:23.41 | FossZombie | arresting officer and da can not be held responsible legally, and nobody can be held responsible civily |
| 16:23.54 | wasynyt | nice system |
| 16:24.05 | FossZombie | it's california they say that the state constitution allows for no 2nd or 5th ammendment as provided in the federal constitution. |
| 16:24.06 | wasynyt | well what is that system supposed to reduce |
| 16:24.24 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 16:24.24 | FossZombie | It's supposed to reduce us into a police state |
| 16:24.37 | wasynyt | :( |
| 16:25.11 | FossZombie | it was already found that laws were made ambiguous on purpose so that arrests could be made, at great cost to the person being arrested for legal representation |
| 16:25.32 | FossZombie | it's meant as a tool to oppress anyone they don't agree with, or if they have a money-gaining or selfish reason to oppress that person |
| 16:26.17 | wasynyt | nah they will arrest ypu at border |
| 16:26.20 | wasynyt | *you |
| 16:26.33 | wasynyt | no-one escapes |
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| 16:27.48 | FossZombie | I'd kill them all |
| 16:28.04 | FossZombie | they can't keep me from leaving, even if they won't grant my freedom here |
| 16:28.42 | wasynyt | hmm they will suspect about you wanting to kill them and then arrest you and sue you for lifetime forced labour |
| 16:28.50 | wasynyt | :s |
| 16:29.24 | FossZombie | What does CA law say about false arrest, and malicious prosecution? Well that only applies to the senators and legislators |
| 16:29.39 | Ananda | we will all be under a police state serving time for our national debt and will all live at work camps |
| 16:30.09 | wasynyt | sounds really scary.. sorry but i am no expert on us law.. as i live in finland |
| 16:30.25 | Ananda | lol |
| 16:30.32 | wasynyt | i guess there must be atleast one state with more reasonable law |
| 16:30.43 | wasynyt | is seriously scared |
| 16:31.06 | Ananda | california is pretty bad with the police brutality, 3 strikes your out, etc... |
| 16:31.22 | Ananda | i always got pulled over for slightly rolling at a stop sign |
| 16:31.29 | Ananda | and always feared for my safety |
| 16:31.33 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 16:31.48 | Ananda | always had my wallet and papers on the dash board with my hands in plain view |
| 16:32.05 | wasynyt | how can the cops be so agressive.. dont they have more important things to do |
| 16:32.16 | wasynyt | do they really shoot as easily as in movies ? |
| 16:32.23 | Ananda | no thats the kind of personality that joins the force |
| 16:32.33 | Ananda | they can |
| 16:32.45 | Ananda | here in chicago people get shot easily too |
| 16:33.12 | wasynyt | -_- |
| 16:33.16 | Ananda | yes i know |
| 16:33.23 | Ananda | take a deep breath |
| 16:33.28 | wasynyt | yup |
| 16:33.31 | wasynyt | just took |
| 16:33.53 | Ananda | i hear that they want to try running arnold for pres eventually |
| 16:34.21 | wasynyt | but doesnt that need a change in institutional law |
| 16:34.29 | Ananda | they are working on it |
| 16:34.34 | wasynyt | really? |
| 16:34.37 | Ananda | yup |
| 16:34.46 | Ananda | quietly |
| 16:34.46 | wasynyt | why would they want arnold to be a president |
| 16:35.06 | wasynyt | it seems that most things happen silently behind scenes |
| 16:35.11 | Ananda | he is a narcissistic maniac with a thirst for power |
| 16:35.38 | Ananda | he has been quoted as saying crap like he respects hitler and how he would someday like to be a dicator |
| 16:35.56 | Ananda | if you have a police state nation then who would you want running it? |
| 16:35.58 | wasynyt | us with a dictator.. |
| 16:36.16 | Ananda | not too far fetched. they are already eroding our freedoms |
| 16:36.22 | wasynyt | would not have police state |
| 16:36.31 | wasynyt | so it seems |
| 16:36.33 | Ananda | cant cross state lines without a passport now |
| 16:36.39 | Ananda | that is weird to me |
| 16:36.45 | Ananda | each state is not a country |
| 16:36.46 | wasynyt | i thought those were free to cross |
| 16:36.52 | wasynyt | like in eu |
| 16:37.00 | wasynyt | :s |
| 16:37.06 | Ananda | its in effect now or soon |
| 16:37.25 | wasynyt | odd.. that will make interstate traffic a pain |
| 16:37.37 | Ananda | its scary but you just gotta live for now |
| 16:37.52 | Ananda | yes it will |
| 16:38.14 | wasynyt | would try to leave before it is too late |
| 16:38.21 | Ananda | leave where> |
| 16:38.26 | wasynyt | *leave/run/flee |
| 16:38.31 | Ananda | globalization |
| 16:38.36 | wasynyt | europe/asia |
| 16:38.53 | Ananda | global economy, government, law |
| 16:39.06 | wasynyt | wont happen in full effect |
| 16:39.20 | wasynyt | there will allways remain places that are way too unstable |
| 16:39.24 | Ananda | you will get tagged like an animal |
| 16:39.35 | Ananda | rfid |
| 16:39.45 | wasynyt | better that than prisoner |
| 16:40.01 | Ananda | yes, then you are really fkd |
| 16:40.11 | wasynyt | perhaps so |
| 16:40.14 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 16:40.29 | Ananda | i gotta go eat lunch, nice talk =) |
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| 16:40.38 | wasynyt | have a nice lunch |
| 16:40.48 | Ananda | while i still can =/ |
| 16:40.48 | wasynyt | and thanks for the talk :D |
| 16:40.56 | wasynyt | dont be too pessimistic |
| 16:41.01 | Ananda | ill try |
| 16:41.26 | wasynyt | and enjoy life and little things :) |
| 16:41.33 | Ananda | i try |
| 16:41.42 | wasynyt | dont try.. enjoy |
| 16:41.57 | Ananda | dictator |
| 16:41.57 | wasynyt | when you try you fail.. you have to do to succes |
| 16:42.05 | Ananda | =D |
| 16:42.07 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:42.16 | Ananda | enjoy NOW |
| 16:42.40 | Ananda | k bbl |
| 16:42.46 | wasynyt | see you later |
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| 18:26.30 | charlie_x | heey |
| 18:26.52 | wasynyt | good evening charlie_x |
| 18:27.06 | charlie_x | whats goin on? |
| 18:28.33 | charlie_x | people? |
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| 18:28.47 | Elive_user44_en | This works great |
| 18:28.58 | Elive_user44_en | I think |
| 18:29.10 | Elive_user44_en | anyone having any problems? |
| 18:29.14 | wasynyt | depends what you want to do Elive_user44_en |
| 18:29.23 | wasynyt | charlie_x, how are you doing |
| 18:29.50 | charlie_x | well, okay^^ and you? |
| 18:30.04 | wasynyt | quite well |
| 18:30.07 | Elive_user44_en | I'm using the beta version I want to use cinelerra |
| 18:30.22 | keyra | Elive_user44_en: cinelerra r0cks! |
| 18:30.40 | Elive_user44_en | What I have read |
| 18:30.56 | Elive_user44_en | Must I pay for the stable version of elive |
| 18:30.58 | charlie_x | ^^ |
| 18:31.58 | roxville | Elive_user44_en, the new dev version is more updated... the stable is the old one |
| 18:32.24 | Elive_user44_en | But any problems with the dev version?> |
| 18:32.27 | roxville | you can get a free install by using one of the later dev builds and helping us test the installer |
| 18:32.46 | roxville | we are working on the issues that may arise |
| 18:33.17 | roxville | in the next couple of builds, i think we'll be testing a new kernel as well |
| 18:33.17 | Elive_user44_en | ok I'm in then |
| 18:34.02 | roxville | tell me what machine you have... and what network and graphics you are using |
| 18:34.20 | Elive_user44_en | Lots of things in store then huh ? |
| 18:34.45 | Elive_user44_en | I have an AMD 1.6 GHZ ethnet |
| 18:34.53 | roxville | well... we can call it stable when very few ppl report issues |
| 18:35.11 | Elive_user44_en | nvidia 256 |
| 18:35.23 | Elive_user44_en | 256 meg that is |
| 18:35.32 | roxville | you know what model nvidia? |
| 18:36.28 | Elive_user44_en | I just went in to circuit city and got the one of the pci cards thay had |
| 18:36.46 | roxville | hehe |
| 18:37.03 | Elive_user44_en | I needed it to do my satellite tv stuff |
| 18:37.29 | roxville | well if it's under 6200, you need to use the old nvidia driver... over, it's the new one |
| 18:37.47 | roxville | or possible under 5000 something |
| 18:38.16 | roxville | i know my old 4000mx would now have to use the old drivers |
| 18:38.17 | Elive_user44_en | I clicked on the new driver |
| 18:38.36 | roxville | ok, and you saw the nvidia splash screen? |
| 18:38.43 | Elive_user44_en | yes |
| 18:38.48 | roxville | ok, cool |
| 18:39.18 | roxville | well if you wanna do a test install now... i can help you a little |
| 18:39.42 | roxville | if you wanna wait a couple days for the new kernel... you are very welcome back :) |
| 18:40.21 | Elive_user44_en | I guess in order to get the most bang I'll wait for the new kernel |
| 18:40.33 | Elive_user44_en | Then what do I do? |
| 18:41.55 | Elive_user44_en | I see hte installer icon on the desktop |
| 18:43.51 | roxville | burn the iso, come here and then you |
| 18:43.56 | roxville | will get help |
| 18:44.13 | roxville | the installer is NOT on the iso... no matter what the icon is saying |
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| 18:44.22 | roxville | <roxville> the installer is NOT on the iso... no matter what the icon is saying |
| 18:44.41 | Elive_user44_en | Oh ok |
| 18:45.11 | Elive_user44_en | How will I be able to get the latest kernel when it becomes availible |
| 18:45.26 | roxville | it will be on the next iso or so |
| 18:46.39 | roxville | so, subscribe to the newsletter or keep checking distrowatch.com |
| 18:46.57 | roxville | or hang out here :) |
| 18:47.37 | Elive_user44_en | We I do like this distro more than the others I have tried |
| 18:47.45 | Elive_user44_en | Seems smarter |
| 18:47.59 | Elive_user44_en | If that makes any sense |
| 18:49.38 | roxville | i have used it for 3 years, so... yes, it makes sense |
| 18:50.11 | roxville | elive's developer tries to make good features...and configure a little more than just slapping the apps in and ship it |
| 18:50.53 | wasynyt | what? isnt that the way distro is made |
| 18:51.13 | roxville | lol |
| 18:51.19 | wasynyt | pre meade configuration are evil ! |
| 18:51.26 | wasynyt | *made |
| 18:51.29 | roxville | apt, kill wasynyt |
| 18:51.30 | apt | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged fluxelectron gun at wasynyt |
| 18:51.42 | wasynyt | +_+ |
| 18:51.53 | roxville | wow, the fluxelectron... haven't seen that omne in a while |
| 18:51.59 | wasynyt | :P |
| 18:52.03 | roxville | :) |
| 18:52.39 | Elive_user44_en | I can't get cinelerra to open |
| 18:52.51 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 18:52.53 | keyra | Elive_user44_en: cinelerra r0cks! |
| 18:53.01 | wasynyt | keyra shut up |
| 18:53.16 | keyra | wasynyt: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis |
| 18:53.27 | AlexAnteMachina | hellooo! |
| 18:53.34 | wasynyt | good evening AlexAnteMachina |
| 18:53.58 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt |
| 18:54.05 | wasynyt | how are you oding |
| 18:54.09 | wasynyt | *doing |
| 18:54.15 | AlexAnteMachina | not bad, not bad. |
| 18:54.24 | wasynyt | wonders what makes him to do so many typos |
| 18:54.33 | wasynyt | and it is not alcohol |
| 18:54.35 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 18:54.36 | roxville | Elive_user44_en, you're right... it's not opening |
| 18:54.38 | roxville | weird |
| 18:54.49 | roxville | maybe he took it off the iso... to save space |
| 18:55.04 | wasynyt | could you try to run it on terminal and see what it says |
| 18:55.06 | Elive_user44_en | buymmer indeed |
| 18:55.06 | AlexAnteMachina | try installing it |
| 18:55.11 | roxville | apt-get update && apt-get install cinelerra |
| 18:55.57 | Elive_user44_en | I will go that route then...I'm running off a cd now |
| 18:56.31 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user44_en, try it while running from CD! |
| 18:56.45 | wasynyt | how much ram/swap space do you have |
| 18:56.54 | MetaPhaze | roxville, what would be the thing you hate configuring on your system the most? |
| 18:57.28 | Elive_user44_en | 700= megs of ram |
| 18:57.50 | roxville | Elive_user44_en, ok... i am installing it now |
| 18:57.54 | roxville | i am sorry |
| 18:57.58 | roxville | i had no idea |
| 18:58.14 | roxville | it's 32MB, so... it sure saved some space on the iso |
| 18:58.24 | Elive_user44_en | I can install it into ram? |
| 18:58.29 | wasynyt | you should be |
| 18:58.36 | roxville | Elive_user44_en, sure you can |
| 18:59.03 | roxville | MetaPhaze, ....hmmm... not sure |
| 18:59.28 | MetaPhaze | LinuxNIT, what would you like to see available as a gui as far as configuration goes? |
| 19:00.48 | roxville | a e-native browser would be cool |
| 19:02.11 | MetaPhaze | e-native browser? |
| 19:02.28 | wasynyt | one that uses enlightenments own gui libs |
| 19:02.34 | wasynyt | and not gtk/qt |
| 19:02.40 | MetaPhaze | ah |
| 19:02.55 | MetaPhaze | e17 has it's own now? |
| 19:03.07 | MetaPhaze | e16 uses imlib2 |
| 19:04.14 | wasynyt | hmm not too sure |
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| 19:04.25 | wasynyt | but i am quite sure that is what rox means |
| 19:04.46 | MetaPhaze | i don't think they do |
| 19:04.55 | MetaPhaze | they might though with the whole EAL thing |
| 19:05.11 | MetaPhaze | or is it EAP |
| 19:05.17 | MetaPhaze | it's EA something |
| 19:07.19 | wasynyt | not so sure.. i have not followed enlightenment libs too closely lately |
| 19:15.40 | Elive_user44_en | got it |
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| 19:32.21 | roxville | shit, cinelerra seems to have issues |
| 19:32.35 | keyra | roxville: cinelerra r0cks! |
| 19:32.50 | roxville | yeah well keyra ... not at the moment... |
| 19:33.17 | roxville | it's just a big fat rock waiting to crash right now |
| 19:37.56 | peeps | roxville, what exactly can you do with cinelerra? |
| 19:38.21 | peeps | i just installed it after watching thanas videos of what can be done with it |
| 19:39.53 | roxville | you can edit movies... thana loves it, but... i don't have a camera... |
| 19:40.20 | roxville | i'm not sure he knows that it is norked right now |
| 19:40.38 | peeps | roxville, i noticed a few issues with closing just now |
| 19:40.39 | roxville | he builds it from cvs |
| 19:40.55 | roxville | with closing? i can;'t even open it |
| 19:41.24 | roxville | after the last apt-get dist-upgrade...it seems to not work anymore |
| 19:41.40 | roxville | crapola... |
| 19:42.53 | peeps | roxville, why would you dist-upgrade? |
| 19:43.06 | roxville | coz thana asked me to |
| 19:43.17 | roxville | :) |
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| 19:47.46 | peeps | is it possible for me to chown of an entire ntfs partition i have? |
| 19:47.55 | peeps | for some reason its mounted under root |
| 19:48.01 | keyra | peeps: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 19:48.29 | peeps | keyra, :( |
| 19:49.11 | peeps | at this point i can't do anything about it since i have alot of data on it, and have no place to back it up |
| 19:49.50 | roxville | <peeps> is it possible for me to chown of an entire ntfs partition i have? |
| 19:49.54 | roxville | i think so |
| 19:50.02 | roxville | -R i believe |
| 19:50.32 | roxville | chown -R /dev/ntfs peeps |
| 19:51.20 | roxville | that could be a bug... |
| 19:51.45 | peeps | in my case /mnt/Windows |
| 19:51.48 | roxville | the issue, i mean... not the command |
| 19:52.10 | roxville | yes |
| 19:54.29 | peeps | hmmm chown -R peeps:users /mnt/Windows/ |
| 19:54.52 | roxville | has again proven that he is... an idiot |
| 19:55.04 | roxville | :) |
| 19:55.15 | peeps | heh, don't sweat it, that command didn't work either |
| 19:55.34 | roxville | lol |
| 19:55.38 | peeps | i think im going to just do what i should have done a long time ago |
| 19:55.46 | peeps | reformatted this ntfs to ext3 |
| 19:55.55 | peeps | and backup every last peice of thing on it to dvd |
| 19:56.00 | keyra | peeps: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 19:56.02 | roxville | ya |
| 19:56.03 | peeps | just for the sake of no longer having these pains |
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| 19:57.37 | roxville | http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/chown.1.asp |
| 19:57.52 | roxville | maybe you need to edit fstab |
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| 20:01.19 | peeps | roxville, oh no, im just going to back it up and then reformat |
| 20:01.22 | peeps | im sick of these issues |
| 20:01.43 | roxville | :) |
| 20:03.27 | roxville | damn, what a movie! |
| 20:03.35 | roxville | is watching "vantage point" |
| 20:04.35 | Elive_user97 | this is very nice movie yeer |
| 20:04.36 | roxville | yes |
| 20:04.56 | roxville | i'm not good at watching exciting movies anymore |
| 20:05.09 | Elive_user97 | u know any good movie ? |
| 20:05.11 | roxville | i have to pause when the action gets too high |
| 20:05.24 | roxville | took me about 10 hours to watch "i am legend" |
| 20:05.29 | roxville | :) |
| 20:05.34 | DammitJim | why roxville ? |
| 20:05.54 | roxville | DammitJim, i get sucked in to the action |
| 20:05.59 | DammitJim | lol |
| 20:06.31 | roxville | when i was a kid, i used to HAVE TO have my bow and arrow when i watched robin hood movies |
| 20:06.33 | roxville | and so on |
| 20:07.17 | roxville | i was always 1 step away from breaking the TV |
| 20:07.32 | roxville | ok, maybe not... but close :) |
| 20:08.01 | roxville | wooden arrows wouldn't break it, anyway, i guess |
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| 20:08.53 | DammitJim | lol |
| 20:12.30 | wasynyt | good night people |
| 20:12.35 | AlexAnteMachina | night |
| 20:13.59 | roxville | wasynyt, sleep tight, bro |
| 20:14.45 | wasynyt | i will |
| 20:14.51 | wasynyt | zzZZZzzZZzZz |
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| 20:38.24 | Elive_user42_en | hey rox |
| 20:41.14 | Elive_user42_en | Can anyone help me install |
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| 21:20.32 | Elive_user80_en | Hello all |
| 21:23.31 | Elive_user80_en | anybody here ? |
| 21:26.44 | roxville | i am... sorta here |
| 21:27.10 | roxville | i'm gonna start cooking dinner in a minute... what can i do for ya? |
| 21:27.16 | roxville | Elive_user80_en, ? |
| 21:27.19 | Elive_user80_en | Could you help me install Rox ? |
| 21:27.36 | roxville | sure, /J #eliveinstall |
| 21:28.23 | roxville | or... do you want help installing ROX? |
| 21:28.37 | roxville | if so... i can't |
| 21:28.46 | Elive_user80_en | I've got the dev version |
| 21:28.51 | peeps | roxville, i reformatted the nfts to ext3 |
| 21:28.55 | roxville | you mean install elive? |
| 21:29.01 | Elive_user80_en | yes |
| 21:29.07 | roxville | ok |
| 21:29.08 | peeps | Elive_user80_en, i can help you, i did the same thing yesterday |
| 21:29.18 | roxville | /J #eliveinstall |
| 21:29.24 | roxville | please take it in there |
| 21:29.47 | roxville | and yes, peeps is a vet now... he can help you :) |
| 21:30.11 | peeps | Elive_user80_en, meet me in #eliveinstall, ill set you up |
| 21:30.36 | Elive_user80_en | ok |
| 21:31.41 | roxville | <roxville> /J #eliveinstall |
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| 21:32.50 | roxville | Elive_user80_en, type this: /J #eliveinstall |
| 21:32.55 | roxville | and press enter |
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| 22:25.44 | Ananda | hey rox |
| 22:26.15 | roxville | sorry |
| 22:26.21 | roxville | is away: family issues |
| 22:26.32 | Ananda | good luck bro |
| 22:26.35 | Wizard | o_O |
| 22:26.39 | Wizard | good evening |
| 22:26.43 | Ananda | hwy Wiz |
| 22:30.08 | Wizard | hmmm |
| 22:30.18 | Wizard | ubuntu does not ship gcc-2.95 anymore :/ |
| 22:30.20 | Wizard | not good |
| 22:31.05 | Ananda | i dont like ubuntu, except studio |
| 22:31.09 | Ananda | seems slow |
| 22:31.24 | Ananda | i could never get the live cds to work on older hardware |
| 22:31.33 | Ananda | i can run elive on my toaster |
| 22:31.43 | Wizard | :) |
| 22:32.01 | Wizard | i would wipe this crap out and install debian, but it's not mine pc |
| 22:32.15 | keyra | Wizard: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 22:32.24 | Ananda | your parents? |
| 22:32.42 | Wizard | no, my company's :P |
| 22:32.50 | Wizard | and other users also use it |
| 22:32.54 | Ananda | =/ |
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| 22:33.18 | Wizard | ok, i'll try to install packages from debian on that cra |
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| 22:33.21 | Wizard | crap :P |
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| 22:38.16 | Ananda | how do you configure the elive clock? |
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| 22:38.51 | Thybo | Ananda, what do u mean? |
| 22:38.53 | Thybo | set then time? |
| 22:39.05 | Ananda | i want a digital read out |
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| 22:39.24 | Thybo | Ananda, good luck :p |
| 22:39.30 | Ananda | =( |
| 22:39.31 | AlexAnteMachina | hi ho! |
| 22:44.33 | Thybo | ho |
| 22:44.51 | AlexAnteMachina | is at work...... |
| 22:44.55 | Spami | Hi |
| 22:45.35 | Thybo | is gona sleep now |
| 22:45.37 | Thybo | salut Spami :) |
| 22:45.42 | Wizard | :S |
| 22:45.42 | Spami | plop |
| 22:45.54 | Spami | je viens de voir infernal affaire, il est géant |
| 22:46.01 | Wizard | hah, i have working gcc-2.95 |
| 22:46.03 | Wizard | \o/ |
| 22:46.41 | Thybo | lol |
| 22:46.45 | Thybo | regarde malcom X |
| 22:46.45 | Thybo | :) |
| 22:46.46 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.01 | Thybo | c koi infernal affaire deja? |
| 22:51.35 | Spami | un film asiat' |
| 22:51.46 | Spami | vraiment bien fait |
| 22:52.07 | Thybo | pas vu alors |
| 22:52.27 | Spami | dl le |
| 22:52.32 | Spami | il est top ! |
| 22:52.54 | Ananda | anyone have adesklets working with elive? |
| 22:58.29 | Wizard | i had |
| 22:59.12 | Wizard | on some old unstable about 1,5 year ago |
| 22:59.20 | Thybo | Spami, ok... toi, matte malcom X |
| 22:59.22 | Thybo | :) |
| 22:59.42 | Spami | déjà vu ! |
| 22:59.45 | Spami | :p |
| 22:59.52 | Thybo | okok |
| 22:59.52 | Thybo | :) |
| 22:59.52 | Thybo | c bon |
| 22:59.55 | Thybo | bon allez dodo |
| 23:00.40 | morgan12 | good night |
| 23:03.42 | Thybo | bonne nut morgan12 :) |
| 23:03.43 | Thybo | is away: I will be back... Oh yes I will be back!!!! |
| 23:03.49 | morgan12 | merci toi aussi |
| 23:03.52 | Thybo | ;) |
| 23:06.29 | roxville | <Ananda> i can run elive on my toaster |
| 23:06.32 | roxville | LOL |
| 23:07.41 | roxville | ok, bedtime for daughter... she has not been very good the past few hours |
| 23:07.54 | roxville | just so you know :) |
| 23:07.59 | roxville | bbiab |
| 23:08.44 | Thybo | hehe |
| 23:08.45 | Thybo | ok |
| 23:08.50 | Thybo | good luck roxville :p |
| 23:08.54 | Thybo | don't spank :p |
| 23:09.03 | Spami | hey roxville the Rocker ! |
| 23:13.13 | Wizard | did anybody managed to run kde1 on elive? |
| 23:13.17 | Wizard | manage* |
| 23:13.19 | Wizard | :S |
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| 23:26.59 | Spami | time to sleep for me |
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| 23:41.02 | Ananda | yes rox my toaster!! =D |
| 23:47.32 | Ananda | whyd does adesklets not work? |
| 23:47.43 | Ananda | what desklet proggies do people use here? |
| 23:47.56 | Ananda | i have heard of AWN, does that work in E? |
| 23:49.04 | Wizard | hmm.. it should, when you enable composite in X |
| 23:50.08 | Ananda | looks like it is but i doubt it would work well on this dell latitude d600 |
| 23:52.27 | Ananda | so where can i find some niffty E17 themes other than at E-org |
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| 23:56.34 | Ananda | if i install exhibit, will that thrash my E? |
| 23:59.31 | Ananda | i guess ill skip it |