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| 01:39.17 | Elive_user92_en | como que eu mudo a resolu;'ao do mu screen? |
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| 03:01.31 | AlexAnteMachina | hi |
| 03:01.35 | AlexAnteMachina | one awake? |
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| 04:11.12 | coyote10 | se thanatermesis |
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| 05:17.17 | smurfslover | good morning |
| 05:17.52 | smurfslover | anyone knows which command requires root acces for the 'fine-tune step' after first bootup |
| 05:18.11 | smurfslover | esu is asking for the root password for command -c |
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| 06:27.21 | AlexAnteMachina | Hi everybody! |
| 06:29.32 | AlexAnteMachina | somebody alive in here? |
| 06:32.58 | AlexAnteMachina | Thana`, ? |
| 06:37.59 | FossZombie | AlexAnteMachina, |
| 06:38.05 | FossZombie | hi |
| 06:38.11 | AlexAnteMachina | hi. |
| 06:38.22 | AlexAnteMachina | got weird eeepc problem |
| 06:38.27 | FossZombie | oh? |
| 06:39.07 | AlexAnteMachina | yes. |
| 06:39.25 | AlexAnteMachina | so i tried to access bootlog from livesystem. |
| 06:39.42 | AlexAnteMachina | but sda2 appears as if it was empty. |
| 06:40.23 | AlexAnteMachina | thunar only shows an empty folder and when typing in "dir" in /mnt/sda2/ nothing appears. |
| 06:41.58 | FossZombie | made bug report? |
| 06:42.13 | keyra | FossZombie: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 06:42.15 | FossZombie | I'll add it to my list of tests |
| 06:43.00 | AlexAnteMachina | thanks. |
| 06:43.08 | AlexAnteMachina | I just wrote an email to Thana` |
| 06:44.04 | AlexAnteMachina | In gparted everything looks normal. |
| 06:44.25 | AlexAnteMachina | is there any way to check/repair a damaged filesystem? |
| 06:44.42 | AlexAnteMachina | checkfs... ??? |
| 06:47.24 | AlexAnteMachina | FossZombie, ? |
| 06:47.55 | FossZombie | well I'd check some internet how-tos because it's been years since I've had a messed up filesystem |
| 06:48.05 | FossZombie | i use reiserfs and never had a problem |
| 06:50.44 | wasynyt | good morning people |
| 06:51.25 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt |
| 06:51.56 | AlexAnteMachina | it's a "jfs"... ?? |
| 06:52.04 | AlexAnteMachina | i know reiser, ext, fat, ntfs... but jfs? |
| 06:52.12 | wasynyt | what are you up to AlexAnteMachina |
| 06:52.19 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 06:52.32 | AlexAnteMachina | apt, kill keyra |
| 06:52.33 | apt | ACTION shoots a ionized pseudotachyon gun at keyra |
| 06:52.41 | AlexAnteMachina | thank you so much |
| 06:52.47 | AlexAnteMachina | stupid bitch! |
| 06:52.52 | wasynyt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Journaled_File_System_2_(JFS2) |
| 06:53.02 | wasynyt | that might give you a clue |
| 06:53.16 | AlexAnteMachina | got a weird prob on eeepc |
| 06:53.35 | AlexAnteMachina | wont boot anymore... just stops booting right in the middle of the process. |
| 06:53.58 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 06:54.03 | wasynyt | does it give any errors? |
| 06:54.17 | AlexAnteMachina | and the biggest Mistery: I havent changed not the slightest bit since last bootup! |
| 06:54.31 | AlexAnteMachina | well, sure it gives some errors. |
| 06:54.52 | AlexAnteMachina | but I cannot read or write as fast as it prints them. |
| 06:55.15 | wasynyt | what are those errors about |
| 06:55.23 | AlexAnteMachina | so I thought it was a nice idea to copy the bootlog-file. But sda2 seems to be empty. |
| 06:56.22 | AlexAnteMachina | I could copy the last errormessages in here by just reading and typing them... |
| 06:56.35 | AlexAnteMachina | just wait a moment, need to reboot the machine... |
| 06:56.49 | AlexAnteMachina | ok, in progress |
| 06:57.11 | wasynyt | k |
| 06:57.41 | AlexAnteMachina | uh... no (failed)-messages anymore, but |
| 06:58.24 | AlexAnteMachina | " Enter runlevel: Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -168954627 ns) |
| 06:58.24 | wasynyt | ? |
| 06:58.48 | wasynyt | does it get to any run level |
| 06:59.32 | AlexAnteMachina | scsi 2:0:0:0 Direct-Access USB2.0 CardReader SD0 0100 PQ: 0 Ansi: 0 |
| 07:00.20 | AlexAnteMachina | sd 2:0:0:0 [sdb] 32235520 512-byte hardware sectors (16505 MB) |
| 07:00.35 | AlexAnteMachina | sd 2:0:0:0 [sdb] Write Protect is off |
| 07:00.53 | AlexAnteMachina | sd 2:0:0:0 [sdb] assuming drive cache: write through |
| 07:01.08 | AlexAnteMachina | sd 2:0:0:0 [sdb] 32235520 512-byte hardware sectors (16505 MB) |
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| 07:01.17 | AlexAnteMachina | sd 2:0:0:0 [sdb] Write Protect is off |
| 07:01.29 | AlexAnteMachina | sd 2:0:0:0 [sdb] assuming drive cache: write through |
| 07:01.39 | AlexAnteMachina | sdb: sdb1 sdb2 |
| 07:02.01 | AlexAnteMachina | sd 2:0:0:0 [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk |
| 07:02.13 | AlexAnteMachina | THAT's ALL! |
| 07:02.20 | wasynyt | then it stops ? |
| 07:02.22 | AlexAnteMachina | after that it stops |
| 07:02.27 | wasynyt | humm |
| 07:02.29 | AlexAnteMachina | just a blinking cursor. |
| 07:02.50 | wasynyt | that clocksource tsc unstable message bigs me |
| 07:02.54 | wasynyt | *bugs |
| 07:03.44 | AlexAnteMachina | uh.. think I should tell you what was written above those lines.... |
| 07:03.56 | wasynyt | that might help |
| 07:04.00 | AlexAnteMachina | looks like a jfs-problem... |
| 07:05.16 | AlexAnteMachina | Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or directory |
| 07:05.23 | AlexAnteMachina | INIT: version 2.86 booting |
| 07:05.33 | AlexAnteMachina | INIT: No inittab file found |
| 07:06.23 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 07:07.35 | AlexAnteMachina | .../*then the "Enter runlevel: Clocksource..."-thing appears*/ |
| 07:07.58 | wasynyt | that clocksource is not really that critical than i first imagined |
| 07:08.19 | AlexAnteMachina | selinuxfs is the problem. |
| 07:09.01 | wasynyt | humm.. do you have it enabled ? |
| 07:09.06 | AlexAnteMachina | I just found this: http://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2005-August/msg00073.html |
| 07:09.23 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 07:09.25 | AlexAnteMachina | not that I knew of... I dont even know what SElinux is. |
| 07:09.53 | AlexAnteMachina | how to disable something on a not booting machine? |
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| 07:11.59 | wasynyt | you could try boot option selinux=0 |
| 07:12.10 | wasynyt | that might disable it |
| 07:12.12 | wasynyt | ;/ |
| 07:12.20 | wasynyt | http://www.crypt.gen.nz/selinux/disable_selinux.html |
| 07:14.36 | AlexAnteMachina | and how to get on a commandline? |
| 07:17.08 | wasynyt | boot option |
| 07:17.29 | wasynyt | you give that in the boot to grub.. or do you have such |
| 07:17.30 | wasynyt | :s |
| 07:17.38 | wasynyt | has not palyed with eee |
| 07:18.30 | AlexAnteMachina | ?? |
| 07:18.42 | AlexAnteMachina | ah! |
| 07:18.47 | AlexAnteMachina | okay.... nice idea |
| 07:19.26 | wasynyt | :D |
| 07:19.37 | AlexAnteMachina | but since selinux is pretty important I dont know wether this is a good idea. |
| 07:20.04 | wasynyt | well if you get it to boot you can backup files and start searching for problem |
| 07:20.19 | keyra | wasynyt: If you have boot problems better to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf |
| 07:20.19 | wasynyt | if you cant get it to boot,, what will you do ? |
| 07:20.25 | wasynyt | apt slap keyra |
| 07:20.25 | apt | ACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 07:20.39 | keyra | wasynyt: But... is true... :( |
| 07:20.44 | AlexAnteMachina | I'll have to reinstall it. |
| 07:21.07 | wasynyt | that might be it |
| 07:21.58 | AlexAnteMachina | dont want to... was freaky to install it. |
| 07:22.52 | AlexAnteMachina | well, I'll wait for Thana`s answer. |
| 07:23.39 | AlexAnteMachina | just emailed him. |
| 07:26.35 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 07:29.10 | AlexAnteMachina | and i found a tutorial to check and repair damaged fs. |
| 07:29.46 | AlexAnteMachina | I'll do that later. |
| 07:29.51 | AlexAnteMachina | Was on nightshift. |
| 07:29.56 | AlexAnteMachina | need some rest now. |
| 07:30.23 | AlexAnteMachina | got a "Good Night Beer" |
| 07:30.30 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 07:30.56 | AlexAnteMachina | want to get rid of me? |
| 07:31.53 | wasynyt | i thought you were going ? |
| 07:32.06 | wasynyt | i will stay some 25 mins |
| 07:32.17 | wasynyt | then i have to go to work |
| 07:33.36 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... just came back from it |
| 07:33.51 | wasynyt | heh |
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| 08:04.23 | wasynyt | gotta go noe |
| 08:04.25 | wasynyt | see you later |
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| 08:23.22 | Elive_user48_it | hi |
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| 11:50.30 | loner269 | hi all |
| 11:50.48 | loner269 | hi Thana` |
| 11:52.34 | loner269 | hi LinuxNIT |
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| 13:15.33 | roxville | wasynyt, ping |
| 13:15.55 | roxville | DammitJim, ping |
| 13:22.20 | roxville | wasynyt, DammitJim ping deprecated |
| 13:23.43 | DammitJim | what????? |
| 13:23.50 | roxville | lol |
| 13:24.04 | roxville | it means that i don't need you to reply anymore :) |
| 13:24.33 | roxville | deprecated is a linux term... it was a misspelling for depreciated |
| 13:25.18 | roxville | and it sorta caught on for anything linux... when a package is obsolete and is no longer active, developed or so...it's is "deprecated" |
| 13:46.09 | DammitJim | lol... I know what deprecated means |
| 13:46.10 | DammitJim | I just didn't know what was going on |
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| 13:48.24 | Elive_user18_en | hi |
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| 13:51.58 | Elive_user18_en | anybody from Hungary? |
| 13:52.33 | Elive_user18_en | hm |
| 13:54.32 | Elive_user18_en | na csaa |
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| 14:07.53 | Wasynyt_mobile | good afternoon people |
| 14:08.38 | Wasynyt_mobile | Thana' what is the binary key file that elive dev downloads when installing? |
| 14:08.52 | keyra | Wasynyt_mobile: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 14:08.53 | Wasynyt_mobile | is curious |
| 14:09.05 | Wasynyt_mobile | apt slap keyra |
| 14:09.06 | apt | ACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 14:09.19 | keyra | Wasynyt_mobile: But... is true... :( |
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| 14:36.52 | Wasynyt_mobile | Gotta go.. I will ask this later |
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| 15:15.41 | p1asma | hi |
| 15:15.52 | p1asma | i installed elive gem |
| 15:16.02 | p1asma | but i have a problem with the driver |
| 15:16.22 | p1asma | in livecd mode i could choose between nvidia old and nvidia new driver |
| 15:16.35 | p1asma | only the old one works acceptable |
| 15:17.17 | p1asma | but after install the fintune allowed me only to select nvidia or nv driver from the xorg configurator |
| 15:17.41 | p1asma | i pressed ESC there because i hoped so he keeps the driver from the livecd-mode |
| 15:18.16 | p1asma | i have nvidia as driver now in the xorg.conf but it seems to be the new one because when i look at the performance |
| 15:18.31 | p1asma | so how can i achieve that it uses the old one? |
| 15:18.48 | p1asma | nv is the opensource one as far as i know |
| 15:19.02 | p1asma | so i have to change the nvidia one |
| 15:19.07 | p1asma | but how? |
| 15:19.08 | p1asma | :/ |
| 15:20.21 | p1asma | Thana`: ? |
| 15:20.24 | p1asma | anyone? |
| 15:25.31 | ma_tex | hi people |
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| 15:55.49 | azexian | roxville: do you never leave? :p |
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| 15:56.52 | azexian | Theoden: I want to install elive from a memory stick, can I just dd it, or have you got files for a usb install? |
| 16:00.23 | azexian | anyone? I wanna install elive to a machine without a cd drive, I can boot from usb, so I want to put the iso/dd the iso on to my memory stick, can someone show me where vmlinuz is or something? |
| 16:00.37 | keyra | azexian: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 |
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| 16:01.51 | azexian | does anyone know if it has to be the dev release, I see that thana said that it was a dev feature, but can I use elive gem? |
| 16:06.56 | roxville | <azexian> roxville: do you never leave? :p |
| 16:07.41 | roxville | hehe i try to do stuff with my daughter as much as possible... and we just moved over the weekend, so... i di not have a connecvtion for almost 2 days! |
| 16:07.45 | roxville | it was scary! |
| 16:07.48 | azexian | roxville: only just got in, lol, just trying to install elive gem on my tablet :d |
| 16:07.52 | raijin | heheh |
| 16:08.00 | azexian | hehe |
| 16:08.02 | azexian | 2 days :p |
| 16:08.17 | roxville | :) |
| 16:08.31 | roxville | azexian, sure you can install gem |
| 16:08.40 | azexian | so tell me personX, can I install elive gem from a usb memory stick |
| 16:08.43 | roxville | but i think the dev would work better on it |
| 16:08.56 | azexian | roxville: is dev better now? |
| 16:09.24 | roxville | and gem is not set up for botting from usb sticks at all... it predates the vikings at this point |
| 16:09.36 | roxville | booting, not botting |
| 16:10.03 | roxville | azexian, the new installer works fairly well... |
| 16:10.09 | azexian | damn, ok in that case I guess I better download the new dev, my internet was capped by my isp, I'm now downloading at the max of 75KB/s, it's hell... |
| 16:10.38 | roxville | after you have loaded the cd/iso, juat do: apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller-4g |
| 16:10.51 | roxville | oh wow, NOT fun |
| 16:10.52 | keyra | roxville: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 16:10.54 | roxville | :/ |
| 16:11.07 | azexian | yeah, means this will take 3 hours to download... :( |
| 16:11.24 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 16:11.48 | azexian | has a lot changed between the 1.7.0 dev and the 1.7.10 dev? |
| 16:13.42 | lontra | hmm |
| 16:14.10 | azexian | I just don't think I have time to be downloading it now, I have to go out |
| 16:16.03 | roxville | you can't start the download and then gop out? |
| 16:16.12 | roxville | go |
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| 16:16.37 | morgan12 | hi |
| 16:17.07 | azexian | roxville: tablet's going with me, I found that ubuntu is running pretty slow on it (despite the fast it's 1GHz, and 768MB of ram) and fedora was terrible, but elive was fast (I replaced it with fedora when I was testing) regret that now, I want elive back, it was the fast one... |
| 16:17.50 | roxville | :) |
| 16:18.00 | lontra | elive is a fast little beast |
| 16:18.02 | roxville | hiya morgan12 :) |
| 16:18.22 | azexian | lontra: I'll drink to that :d |
| 16:18.48 | roxville | has to find his razor... starting to look like santa claus |
| 16:18.55 | azexian | roxville: hehe |
| 16:19.19 | lontra | azexian: if you're looking for another fast distro slitaz is the fastest thing i've ever seen |
| 16:19.23 | morgan12 | I come back later |
| 16:19.37 | azexian | lontra: slitaz.. looking now |
| 16:20.04 | lontra | azexian: i know it's off-topic here, and kind of rude, but it's 28 mb and it flies |
| 16:20.48 | azexian | lontra: I want something a little more flash then that I think, busybox is a bit simplistic, reminds me of dsl a little, although that list is pretty nice |
| 16:21.01 | lontra | azexian: no worries :) |
| 16:24.11 | azexian | any others you can suggest? gui of xfce, e17, or gnome preferred (just tempo, will get elive when the download finishes :s) |
| 16:24.25 | keyra | azexian: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 16:25.29 | p1asma | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.52 | lontra | azexian: not really |
| 16:30.18 | roxville | fixing and eating lunch with daughter |
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| 18:09.45 | lontra | man the development cd would not work for me. i kept getting a string of errors about a logical volume |
| 18:10.16 | DammitJim | during normal LiveCD bootup? |
| 18:10.21 | lontra | yup |
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| 18:11.01 | lontra | it was the second cd i burned so i think the live cd just isn't going to run on this machine |
| 18:11.24 | DammitJim | somebody told me to burn it at 8x |
| 18:11.30 | DammitJim | and that seemed to do it |
| 18:12.09 | lontra | hmm ... maybe i'll try it once more |
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| 18:14.46 | lontra | otherwise i'm running debian already i just might install e17 on it |
| 18:15.00 | keyra | lontra: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 18:19.14 | AlexAnteMachina | hi folks! |
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| 18:29.37 | lontra | whoever it was that sugested to burn at a slower speed thanks it worked :) |
| 18:30.11 | lontra | this is my first time on elive in about a week and e17 and elive have come a long way :D |
| 18:30.43 | DammitJim | lol... I can't believe it! |
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| 18:43.11 | lontra | roxville, ping |
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| 18:59.23 | lontra | do the themes on the e website work with the latest flavour of elive? |
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| 19:00.53 | DammitJim | yup |
| 19:01.13 | lontra | nice ;) |
| 19:01.43 | lontra | do you know how i can make my mouse not go to the active window when i click on something? |
| 19:04.43 | roxville | lontra, it would be in mouse settings somewhere...in the e17 config panel |
| 19:05.03 | lontra | that's what i thought just couldn't find the right thing |
| 19:05.59 | roxville | yeah, it's a bit... messy, still |
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| 19:06.29 | lontra | he he |
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| 19:17.50 | wasynyt | Thanatermesis, out of curiosity, what is that binary key file that elive dev downloads during install |
| 19:18.04 | keyra | wasynyt: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 19:18.56 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt, the new way of work for the payment stuff of elive... so, users never pay now for download again, they can use also the live mode (of stable version too), they only pays for install Elive |
| 19:19.10 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 19:19.20 | Thanatermesis | actually is directly directed to the download, for the next stable version, is needed to pay to download the file |
| 19:20.11 | wasynyt | ahh.. ok |
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| 19:20.50 | wasynyt | so one can use elive in livecd mode, but to install one needs to download that file? and to download that file one needs to pay |
| 19:21.17 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt, it is suposed to be very secure so... everybody is welcome to try to hack this system in order to probe his crackable level :) |
| 19:21.27 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:21.30 | wasynyt | heh |
| 19:21.37 | Thanatermesis | exactly, now is only needed to pay for the installation, not for download (and use) Elive |
| 19:22.00 | wasynyt | that is an improvement |
| 19:22.10 | Thanatermesis | this has a lot of good points and... i don't know any bad point of this new system for now :) |
| 19:22.13 | Thanatermesis | of course! |
| 19:22.47 | Thanatermesis | also, users can try Elive without pay, i have received a few comments saying "how i can pay for a product that i don't know ?" |
| 19:23.09 | Thanatermesis | torrents can be used, direct downloads to the stable iso too... |
| 19:23.15 | wasynyt | well only bad thing about is that the file is binary, and i fear the worst, when i think about the freedom peopel |
| 19:23.18 | wasynyt | *people |
| 19:23.23 | keyra | Thanatermesis: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website |
| 19:23.43 | Thanatermesis | and a very important point: the user can be sure that Elive works on his hardware before to pay for it (imagine pay and download elive, and then see how it doesnt boot on your computer) |
| 19:24.40 | wasynyt | yup |
| 19:25.02 | Thanatermesis | lol, no wasynyt... that binary file doens't has any relation with "freeness", its not a code, is not a application, it just contains some kind of "codes" that the installer needs to verify in order to continue the installation, it is binary because is needed to be "secure" (so, nobody can made "fake" files) |
| 19:25.58 | wasynyt | what i mean is that there are people, who view every binary file without source a great evil, a enemy to fight with |
| 19:26.45 | wasynyt | and as they cannot be 100% sure what that binary file contains they assume it has a troijan |
| 19:26.48 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 19:27.20 | Thanatermesis | yes but... what i say is that binary file is NOT a code, is not from a source code, its totally impossible to be "opened" |
| 19:27.44 | Thanatermesis | is like... a video movie, you can't have "the sources" of a video file |
| 19:28.28 | wasynyt | yep |
| 19:29.45 | wasynyt | thinks |
| 19:31.58 | wasynyt | thanks for the info |
| 19:32.10 | wasynyt | good night people |
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| 23:40.32 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all! |
| 23:40.53 | AlexAnteMachina | one alive! |
| 23:40.58 | AlexAnteMachina | ??? |
| 23:44.18 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis: ? |
| 23:54.10 | raijin | elive and kicking |
| 23:54.25 | raininja | totally |
| 23:54.26 | raininja | lol |
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| 23:56.46 | raijin | those bastards in #debian |