IRC log for #elive on 20080904

00:03.47AlexAnteMachinaroxville: ping
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00:37.16Elive_user58_dehi all
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00:41.32roxvilleMetaPhaze,  any luck with the database?
00:41.52Elive_user58_dehey roxville
00:42.03MetaPhazeyep, now i have problems with another one lol
00:43.06Elive_user58_dedid yoou get my last message?
00:43.06Elive_user58_deroxville, filetransfer did not work
00:43.17Elive_user58_deroxville, would you please be kind enough sending it by email?
00:45.52Elive_user58_deroxville, ping
00:52.27roxvilleElive_user58_de, i uploaded them for you
00:52.39roxvilleif you are alex
00:52.59Elive_user58_deuhm,.. thanks but where did you ul them to?
00:53.14roxville<roxville> AlexAnteMachina, http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/Elive-OLD-logos/
00:53.22roxville<roxville> i found 2 more
00:53.22roxville<roxville> that's it for now
00:53.22roxville<roxville> have fun :)
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00:54.25Alex2thanks roxville
00:54.55roxvillenp :)
00:55.17Alex2is there a german elive channel?
00:56.01Alex2I just wonder, because I'd like to build a noob-proof Elive.
00:57.57roxvilleyou can start one if you like :)
00:58.37Alex2looks like that
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01:17.34roxvilleahoy there, captain feathersword!
01:17.54roxvillehow's it going?
01:19.21Angry_Mobhiya
01:21.00Angry_MobI know you re there :D
01:21.10Angry_Mobhow are you doing?
01:22.28Alex2who's feathersword?
01:22.31Alex2????
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01:46.22roxville_sigh
01:46.28roxville_hates timing out
01:46.56roxville_ok, i'm off...seeya tomorrow
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02:43.29Elive_user94_enhi
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03:10.16Angry_Mobdoes anyone know that why gdebi is not working?
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03:19.21Angry_Mobdpkg -i
03:19.22Angry_Mob...
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03:31.41AlexAnteMachinanobody knows, Angry_Mob
03:31.48AlexAnteMachinaits secret
03:31.53Angry_Mob:D
03:31.59AlexAnteMachinaand we are the keepers
03:32.34Angry_Mobfound a solution no worry ;)
03:32.58Angry_MobI was thinkin about opera nero and other apps
03:33.15Angry_Mobthey re much more useful than freewares
03:36.34AlexAnteEeePC???
03:37.26Angry_MobI'm testing new application on the dev version of elive
03:37.46Angry_MobI found opera(browser) very useful with new elive
03:42.09shadowviceSo when was the last installable development image?
03:42.23shadowviceI downloaded 1.87 and found out it wasnt installable... so Im moving to 1.86 in hopes that it is
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08:16.38AlexAnteMachinahi and good morning everybody!
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08:17.21AlexAnteMachinahi and good morning everybody!
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09:15.12livindaylighthi
09:15.30livindaylightcan someone tell me a bit about Elive?
09:15.59AlexXsure
09:16.06AlexXwhat do you want to know?
09:16.30AlexXlivindaylight, you are from GB?
09:16.33livindaylightis it compatible with old macintosh. My neighbour has a G3 (i think!) and i want to put a linux based distro on it
09:16.43livindaylightAlexX: i live in London
09:17.02AlexXyour real name sounds german.
09:17.03AlexX;)
09:17.13livindaylightyes :)
09:17.25AlexXwhy is that?
09:17.44livindaylightI was born in Berlin
09:17.51AlexXah!
09:17.58livindaylight:)
09:18.20livindaylightwhere are you from?
09:18.54AlexXgermany
09:18.57AlexX;)
09:19.03livindaylightlol
09:19.06AlexXthat's why i asked
09:19.13livindaylighti see...
09:19.40livindaylightnah... mein Deutsch ist nicht mehr sehr merkwürdig
09:19.47AlexXlol
09:20.12AlexXyou just said "My german isnt very strange anymore"
09:20.18AlexX*gg*
09:20.33livindaylightoh... i thought and i meant to say 'noteworthy'?
09:20.46AlexXneed to look that up.....
09:21.35AlexX"Bemerkenswert, or Beachtenswert" is what you're looking for.
09:21.58livindaylightthx :)
09:22.12AlexXwelcome. my pleasure.
09:22.37AlexXwell, I you want to install elive onto a Mac the most important thing is:j
09:22.46livindaylightyes
09:22.52AlexXIt must have a intel processor
09:23.01livindaylightahh...
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09:23.18livindaylightits an old iBook, so i doubt it has intel processor
09:23.25AlexXthere is a special version available for mac.
09:23.37livindaylightwould that work?
09:23.52AlexXnext stable will have that feature embedded
09:23.53livindaylighti was in elivemac but its very quiet there
09:24.09livindaylightok, when is next feature due, roughly?
09:24.11AlexXit will work if there is a intel chip inside
09:24.19livindaylight*next stable
09:24.41AlexXyou also could give the dev-version a try
09:24.41livindaylightas i say its an old mac, i don't think they introduced intel chips until recently
09:24.59AlexXI dont know much about mac
09:25.07livindaylightme either :(
09:26.11livindaylightmy neighbour pulled out his son's old mac from the attic as it were but has os9.1 on it? an old thing... and i don't believe Apple would still support the os, which needs updates etc
09:26.18AlexXget you neigbor an EeePC 901 and install Elive on it. That rocks!
09:27.00livindaylighthe doesn't have £300 odd pounds to spend... I rather salvage his g3 which is still a very nice looking piece of hardware
09:27.15AlexXTiny device, lightweight and with Elive Fast as Hell!
09:27.21livindaylighti'll install debian and put E17 on it if Elive doesn't work out
09:27.36keyralivindaylight: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
09:27.37AlexXwell, just try.
09:27.46AlexXlol
09:28.11livindaylightkeyra: thx, you got me before i was going to ask my next question
09:28.39livindaylightso basically all debian packages are available on Elive through debian repos?
09:28.54keyralivindaylight: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
09:29.03livindaylightand if it is not in repos one can install .deb as one would with dpkg?
09:29.28livindaylightwhen you say d
09:29.39AlexXkeyra is a bot
09:29.48livindaylightLOL
09:29.53keyraAlexX: you think so ?
09:30.04AlexXno, I KNOW!
09:30.17AlexXapt, kill keyra
09:30.18aptACTION shoots a charged electron gun at keyra
09:30.55AlexXwell, but keyra is a bot with a nice ass
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09:31.09keyraAlexX: I'm very nice! and beautiful ;)
09:31.18AlexXI know
09:31.29AlexXand you got a nice ass, keyra
09:31.44keyraAlexX: AWESOME, ass... this is the word ;)
09:31.44livindaylighterrhumm.... so, .deb are also installabble?
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09:31.55AlexXsure
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09:32.25livindaylightand Elive has full Debian repos or just official?
09:32.39keyralivindaylight: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
09:33.04livindaylightFinally, what is the difference of me installing Debian without X and just installing E17 and Elive?
09:33.46AlexXThe preconfiguration
09:33.58livindaylightwas bedeutet das?
09:34.16tigersuitelive ist schon vorkonifguriert.
09:34.40livindaylightyes, what does it mean?
09:34.48AlexXif you install "naked" e17 you will have to do lots of configurations to make it look like elive.
09:35.19tigersuitexactly. also you have a lot of things working out of the box in elive.
09:35.32tigersuitmedia codecs for dvd, mp3 etc. for example.
09:35.37livindaylightbut people will tweak and customize their Elive anyway... is there any differnce in terms of functionality, or are we paying for Elive because it looks prettier than E17 naked?
09:35.45livindaylighttigersuit: ahh...
09:36.18AlexXwell, what OS r u using?
09:36.42livindaylighti cannot tell you; otherwise i would have to kill you after :p
09:37.17AlexXcoward
09:37.51livindaylightits purely on a need to know basis. Why do you ask? :)
09:38.26AlexXever used linux?
09:38.41livindaylighthuh?
09:38.57livindaylightwhat gives you the impression that i haven't?
09:39.18AlexXwell, just boot elive from cd.
09:39.48AlexXthat'll give you an idea. Then get Debian and put E17 onto it.
09:40.02keyraAlexX: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
09:40.05AlexXYou'll instantly understand the Difference
09:41.37livindaylighti realized that.. i thought i'd just ask instead. But if it cannot be put into words then i might follow your advice
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09:42.14livindaylightAlexX: are you using Linux?
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09:42.21AlexXlol
09:42.24livindaylightlol
09:42.33AlexXno, of course not!
09:42.41livindaylightAlexX: Du bist sehr neugirig ;)
09:43.04AlexXNö.
09:43.14AlexXGar nich wahr!
09:43.52livindaylightok, neugierig dann
09:44.24AlexXNiemals!
09:44.41AlexXIch weise dies entschieden von mir!
09:45.31AlexXLinux is just for Geeks and Freaks.
09:45.46AlexXNo normal Man would use it ever
09:47.44livindaylightfor new levels of geekdom and elitism you must leave linux behind and use BSD...
09:48.00AlexXokay
09:48.06AlexXand why that?
09:48.36AlexXwhat does BSD stand for? Bondage Sadism Devotion?
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09:51.46tigersuitdoes anyone know where to disable that the monitor is turning off after a few minutes of inactivity in gem?
09:52.29tigersuitbsd ist the berkley software distribution, btw.
09:54.48AlexXBildschirmschonereinstellungen
09:57.40tigersuitups. das war wohl zu naheliegend :P
09:59.18tigersuitthx
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10:14.43AlexXtigersuit, kaffee gefällig?
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10:18.11AlexXtigersuit, kaffee gefällig?
10:20.31tigersuitich mag keinen kaffee. trotzdem danke.
10:23.13AlexXich leb' fast davon
10:23.16AlexXnachtschicht.
10:23.22AlexX*kotz*
10:26.29tigersuitselbst bei schlaflosen nächten ist meine erste wahl afri cola :)
10:27.05AlexXhab ich nich da
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10:40.08AlexXtigersuit, seit wann hast du Elive?
10:50.29tigersuitseit dienstag.
10:51.01AlexXalso seit 2 tagen
10:51.19AlexXund welche version?
10:51.45tigersuitdie letzte stable. gem.
10:51.47AlexXrevolution, gem oder dev?
10:51.49AlexXah!
10:52.06AlexXschon mal update gemacht?
10:52.30tigersuitjep. sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
10:52.42AlexXna, du kennst dich ja aus.
10:52.47tigersuitjetzt klappt das root-terminal nicht mehr lol
10:52.54AlexXhö?
10:53.00AlexXroot-terminal?
10:53.08AlexXbraucht kein mensch.
10:53.20AlexXstino terminal und "su" eingeben.
10:53.23AlexXfeddich.
10:53.24tigersuitversuch mal sudo -s im normalen terminal.
10:53.39AlexXsudo benutz ich nie
10:54.18AlexXda sich das nur auf den folgenden befehl bezieht. musste also vor jeden befehl erneut setzen. da tipp ich lieber einmal "su" ein und bin dann die ganze sitzung über root.
10:54.30tigersuitklappt jedenfalls nicht, weil "user" nicht mitglied der gruppe "root" ist..
10:54.40AlexXwas klappt nicht?
10:55.15tigersuitmit "sudo" root-rechte erlangen.
10:55.27AlexXmach doch mal ein terminal auf.
10:55.44tigersuithab ich.
10:55.50AlexXund dann tippe mal "su" ein
10:55.57AlexXalso ohne Anführungszeichen
10:56.02tigersuitmit "su" bin ich als root im home-verzeichnis gelandet..
10:56.08AlexXlogisch
10:56.14AlexXnun bist du root!
10:56.34tigersuitin der tat.
10:56.47AlexXwenn du woanders hinnavigieren möchtest, dann gib "cd /pfad" ein
10:56.57tigersuitich war das "sudo -s" von ubuntu&linuxmint gewöhnt 8D
10:57.04tigersuitdas ist klar.
10:57.12AlexXalso z.b. "cd /home/..."
10:57.29tigersuitwie verhält es sich mit "apt-get install"?
10:57.38tigersuitauch einfach mit "su" davor?
10:57.44AlexXdu kannst auch im Dateimanager (thunar) einen rechtsklick machen und im kontextmenü "Terminal hier öffnen" nutzen
10:57.59AlexXja, wenn du root bist darfst du ALLES!
10:58.02AlexXauch rauchen.
10:58.29AlexXich muss mir unbedingt noch ein T-shirt kaufen. "Ich bin /root, ich darf das!"
10:58.41AlexX*gg*
10:59.01tigersuitabgesehen von ein paar geeks würde dich jeder für verrückt halten.
10:59.08AlexXmir wurscht.
10:59.41tigersuithaha.
10:59.46tigersuitok
11:00.04AlexXoder nach durchzechter Nacht: Duschen? Pah! apt-get autoclean
11:00.06AlexX*gg*
11:00.53tigersuitlol
11:00.54AlexXoha!
11:00.58AlexXis ja schon 1!
11:01.18tigersuitund nun?
11:01.34AlexXmuss ich demnächst mal anfangen hier aufzuräumen
11:01.56AlexXich bin am überlegen ob ich nicht einen #elive-de eröffne
11:02.07tigersuitviel erfolg. ich sollte apt-get autoclean ausführen; meine freundin trifft gleich hier ein.
11:02.41tigersuitich fürchte ja fast, dass wir dann alleine im channel sind. sooo viele elive-user gibt es dann doch nicht.
11:02.44AlexXlol... apt-get remove dirt
11:03.14AlexXapt kann viel.... nur kaffee muss ich selber machen.
11:04.33AlexXleider geht "apt-get install Frau" nicht.
11:04.41AlexXmüsste mal in die repos aufgenommen werden.
11:04.47AlexXdann könnt ich mir eine runterladen.
11:05.48tigersuitich hab meine immerhin aus dem internet :)
11:06.01tigersuitdas mit den repos ist aber eine gute idee.
11:06.24AlexXdurch meine nachtschicht treffe ich selten leute
11:07.09tigersuitwie gesagt: internet :)
11:07.17AlexXnee
11:07.23AlexXdas mag ich dafür nicht nutzen
11:07.35AlexXdas is alles nix gescheites.
11:07.43AlexXoder es kostet nen haufen geld
11:07.56tigersuitquatsch. meine ist voll gut.
11:08.02AlexXlol
11:08.03tigersuitund myspace war gratis.
11:08.17AlexXgratisfreundin. lass sie das nur nich lesen
11:08.33tigersuitdu musst ja nicht direkt auf die einschlägigen "partnerbörsen" zurückgreifen.
11:08.54tigersuites gibt genug social networks, die den angenehmen nebeneffekt haben, dass man dort frauen kennenlernt.
11:09.47AlexXich hol' mir meinen korb lieber persönlich ab
11:09.50AlexX;)
11:10.08tigersuithaha. ok.
11:10.20tigersuitich bin dann mal eben duschen.
11:10.24AlexXk
11:10.27AlexXgenehmigt
11:10.53tigersuitich bin jetzt auch root, ich dusche, wann immer es mir passt.
11:10.55tigersuit:)
11:11.07AlexXlol
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11:33.04orveldvwhoa
11:33.07orveldvthanatermesis learned english
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11:49.05roxvillegood morning
11:49.17roxvillelivindaylight,  did you get my message yesterday?
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11:54.58livindaylightroxville: no?
11:57.07roxvillei opened a priv conversation because you had left the channel
11:57.16roxvilleok, hold on
11:57.22livindaylightroxville: so sorry, didn't see you
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12:03.05wasynytgood afternoon people
12:03.50roxvillehey wasynyt
12:04.06wasynythow are you doing roxville
12:04.27roxvillenot too bad... waiting for some bad weather to come our way
12:05.55wasynytso that is not done yet ?
12:06.38roxvilleoh no.... and there's more to come
12:06.51roxvillethey are lined up and ready rock'n roll
12:07.39roxvillewasynyt, http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/satelliteworld/atlanticoceansatellite_large.html
12:08.04roxvilleHanna is closest to the US right now
12:08.38roxvillebut behind Hanna...is Ike... that's the VERY concentrated red thing in the middle of the atlantic
12:09.20wasynytthat doesnt look too good
12:09.41roxvillenope
12:09.56roxvilleand behind Ike...is Josephine
12:10.47wasynytok.. then the bad weather isnt going to end any time soon
12:11.04roxvillenope :)
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12:27.28wasynythow has your daughter gone thru that wearher
12:29.29roxvillewasynyt, it's not here yet
12:29.36roxvilleso... i don't know
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12:31.21wasynyt:/
12:41.17livindaylightroxville: Charleston reminds me a little of Stockholm.... a lot of water
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12:49.09roxville_i HATE timing out!
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12:54.07wasynytdont we all
12:56.34roxville_i don't think so
12:56.46roxville_some seem to thrive on it
12:56.53roxville_just kidding :)
12:57.24livindaylightdidn't realize charleston is a harbour city; a bit like Stockholm
12:57.28roxville_anyway livindaylight  was nice talking to ya... even though i can get long winded at times :)
12:57.41roxville_yes it is
12:57.49livindaylightroxville_: not at all, i hope i didn't  bore you too much :)
12:57.55roxville_and pretty old, by american standards
12:58.42roxville_oh no, bore is my middle name :D
12:59.55livindaylightfunny, i was thinking Elive could be a solution for my neighbours computer. Now i'm beginning to think, hrmm... this might look nice on MY laptop
13:00.19livindaylighti'm pretty hooked on Gnome though
13:05.16wasynytheh
13:05.53livindaylightis it ok to confess here?
13:06.24Angry_Nob:D
13:06.33livindaylighti say this in the strictest of confidence, yes?
13:06.39livindaylight:)
13:08.28livindaylightSo, Elive 1.0 is  based on the previous Debian stable? (woody?) is Elive based on Lenny due anytime soon?
13:08.43keyralivindaylight: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
13:09.00livindaylightkeyra: is that a good thing or not?
13:09.10wasynytelive dev is ased on lenny
13:09.17wasynytapt slap keyra bot
13:09.18aptACTION slaps keyra bot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
13:09.32keyrawasynyt: But... is true... :(
13:09.46keyraapt: me ?
13:09.46aptno u
13:10.49wasynytan yes it is ok to admid
13:11.26Angry_NobHow can i find my kernel's latency rate?
13:15.11wasynytwhat for do you need that info
13:15.21wasynytroxville_: did elive have realtime kernel
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13:17.16livindaylightElive is a 677 mb iso... that's still quite a large distro considering WM is so much lighter than Gnome
13:17.16livindaylight?
13:17.18Angry_Nobenemy territory quake wars runs quite slow in dev version
13:18.57roxville2livindaylight,  that's because of the apps
13:19.15roxville2it's the imapct of the window manager on the RAM that matters
13:19.41roxville2impact
13:20.15livindaylightthx
13:20.24roxville2e17 takes about... 80mb of ram, at the moment
13:20.35roxville2gnome around 110, i think
13:20.47roxville2and KDE... around 130
13:21.03roxville2xfce...just under 100
13:21.13livindaylightfluxbox?
13:21.57roxville2about the same as e17... maybe a bit less
13:22.10roxville2but fluxbox is sooooo....
13:22.14roxville2you know
13:22.20livindaylightboring ^^
13:22.25roxville2hehe yes
13:22.33roxville2IMO, anyway
13:22.58wasynyt:P
13:23.26livindaylightsorry to ask dumb questions. Why then is E17 so much lighter on Ram than Gnome. because i thought it was related to size-clearly that is not factor(not biggest contributing factor anyways)
13:24.27Angry_Nobhttp://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=65713579vi1.png
13:24.55roxville2it's not related to the sheer size of the iso
13:25.20roxville2but in the size and amount of libs and stuff that have to be loaded to fundction
13:26.22roxville2Angry_Nob, :)
13:26.28LinuxNITlivindaylight, in case the question was not answered. elive will not run on a G3. the g3 does not have a intel processor
13:26.56livindaylightLinuxNIT: thank you... so, i've been informed :(
13:26.58roxville2believes he did answer that question
13:27.01Angry_Nobyeah
13:27.04LinuxNITok
13:27.09livindaylightbut thx
13:27.12LinuxNITyall have a good day
13:27.14LinuxNIToff to work
13:27.19roxville2you too LinuxNIT
13:27.27livindaylighti'll install debian ppc and put e17 on it
13:27.41keyralivindaylight: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
13:27.54roxville2yes keyra ...we know...
13:28.09keyraroxville2: :)
13:28.10livindaylightkeyra: you told me that a couple times this morning :)
13:28.37livindaylighti'm installing Debian lenny ppc now, so don't worry about it keyra
13:28.52keyralivindaylight: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
13:29.14roxville2lol
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13:29.23roxville2keyra,  good b.o.t :)
13:29.23livindaylightlol
13:30.09livindaylighti don't konw what the SH%$T is but nvm
13:30.44wasynytheh
13:34.17Angry_Nobhimm still I couldnt my kernel latecy
13:44.37Angry_Nobdmesg | tail
13:44.41Angry_Nobi found it
13:49.39tigersuithow i can i launch the menu editor from terminal? i tried to change something&now several entries in the menu incl the editor dissapeared..
13:51.57tigersuithelp!
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14:04.16wasynytgood afternoon DammitJim
14:04.25DammitJimhi wasynyt
14:04.51wasynythow are you doing DammitJim
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14:14.41DammitJimI'm doing alright and you?
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14:22.41wasynytdoing well
14:22.44wasynyti am planning on making some food
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14:26.39DammitJimwhat kinda food?
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14:35.42raijini have eaten too mamy  cookies
14:36.29raijinmany*
14:36.36DammitJimlmao... what kind?
14:36.44raijiniced oatmeal
14:37.06DammitJimlotsa icing?
14:39.16raijinstore bought
14:39.25raijinmachine applied
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15:21.57Pacmabuenas tardes
15:21.59Pacmahola DammitJim
15:22.02Pacmahola people
15:22.12keyraPacma: nas nas
15:22.26keyraPacma: que tal ?
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15:26.41Elive_user24is away: See my screenshots http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots
15:26.44Elive_user24is back (gone 00:00:03)
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16:02.13livindaylightkeyra: l'Espanol es la SH%$T, verdad?
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16:08.40shadowviceokokok... Im finally sitting happy with my "work" PC on Elive ... ofcourse Im still RDP'd to my previous one but...
16:09.04DammitJimwhat machine is this?
16:10.18shadowvicecurrently... the RDP'd one...
16:10.31shadowvicebut I's got some tweakin to do first :D
16:15.02DammitJimrdp?
16:15.32shadowviceRemote Desktop ... I almost still need windows here
16:17.13DammitJimoh
16:17.13DammitJimwhy?
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16:23.01Elive_user50hi
16:23.09Elive_user50i have a question?
16:24.32shadowviceI help with Desktop Support so I have to rely on testing on Windows every now and then
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16:26.14Angry_Mob%$#%$#^%$&%$$#@
16:26.19Elive_user50i downloaded the last messenger for elive and when i try to install the firewall of elive doesnt get me conection and i try to deactivate
16:26.33keyraElive_user50: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
16:27.01Elive_user50there's a way to deactivate the firewall?
16:29.55roxvilleprobably
16:30.03roxvillegoogle the firewall app
16:30.09roxvilleor read the man pages
16:30.38roxvilleelive does not come with a firewall installed, afaik
16:38.32Elive_user50when i tried to conect to amsn and i go to preferences it comes out with a message that tell me " it appears you are behind a firewall"
16:38.50Elive_user50so roxville it comes with a firewall
16:43.01roxvillelol, no
16:43.17roxvilleyou have a hardware firewall... a router or something
16:43.32Elive_user50where??
16:43.46Elive_user50the modem of my isp?
16:43.50Elive_user50please
16:44.00roxvilleon your desk...in the closet... how would i know where your router is?
16:44.29Elive_user50my internet its not from wifi
16:44.35Elive_user50its from lan
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16:57.17Elive_user29lantjie
16:57.29Elive_user29hey
16:57.48Elive_user29hey everyone out there
16:58.52Elive_user29bey till the next time
16:58.52wasynytreports in
16:58.52Elive_user29doeiiiiiii
16:59.47wasynytgood evening to you too Elive_user29
16:59.49wasynyt:D
17:00.06Elive_user29hey
17:00.39shadowvice<PROTECTED>
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17:01.08roxvilleok, let's see how this goes
17:01.15roxvilleexalt is a bit shaky...
17:01.27Elive_user29hey i am from suriname
17:01.36wasynytis from finland
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17:01.58Elive_user29oke
17:02.22Elive_user29i want go to finland someday
17:02.32Elive_user50eliveuser50 its from venezuela
17:02.58wasynythow are you people doing
17:03.14Elive_user29i am doing good
17:03.25Elive_user29and how are you doing
17:04.01wasynyti am doing fine
17:04.57shadowviceIm doing very good ... :D
17:05.51wasynytnice
17:05.52wasynytD:
17:06.15Elive_user29and where are you  people from
17:06.19Elive_user29?
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17:06.58Elive_user52hi
17:07.17shadowviceNorth America... I think thats save to say now
17:09.03Elive_user29and who is shadowvice a boy or a girl?
17:09.19roxvilleuh...
17:09.21DammitJimthere are women using Elive???? noway!
17:09.35roxvillequestions like that should be asked in #elive-dating
17:09.37Elive_user29yes
17:09.50DammitJimlol @ rox
17:09.54DammitJimyes what, Elive_user29 ?
17:09.58roxvillewe have our fair share of women users
17:10.05shadowvicea boy 33/Male/NA ... I like long walks in the Mountains and a good chance to cuddle by the fire.. :D
17:10.12shadowvicewait... wrong chat sorry :D
17:10.14roxvillehehe
17:10.46Elive_user29do you guys know where surinam is
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17:30.19roxville_sigh
17:36.16ikevinhi roxville_
17:36.37roxville_hi ikevin
17:37.00ikevinhow are you mate?
17:37.20roxville_i'm ok... i may have a dns prob... i keep timing out
17:37.41roxville_plus... i'm waiting for a couple of hurricanes to come our way
17:38.31ikevin:/
17:38.46ikevintry 81.93.244.2 as dns server, he work fine
17:38.55roxville_ok
17:39.09roxville_but exalt doesn't let me change anything in dns
17:39.20roxville_how can i set it via terminal?
17:40.14ikevinedit /etc/resolv.conf and add: nameserver 81.93.244.2 in the first line
17:40.35roxville_ok
17:40.36roxville_thx :)
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18:06.23Pacmabuenas tardes
18:06.38keyraPacma: nas nas
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18:09.54Pacmahola roxville
18:10.09keyraPacma: que tal ?
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18:31.06Elive_user2_bgаяь
18:31.15wasynytElive_user2_bg: ?
18:31.35Elive_user2_bgкак
18:31.44tigersuitthat seems to be russian..
18:31.47Elive_user2_bgда
18:32.00wasynyt:S
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18:32.16wasynytapt x ru en да
18:32.18Elive_user33_eslcoi
18:32.25wasynyt!
18:32.28Elive_user2_bgеика
18:32.29Elive_user2_bgБ
18:32.32tigersuit"kak" means "what" :)
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18:32.51tigersuitthats everything i understand.
18:33.15wasynyti cant understand a word
18:34.09tigersuiti do understand a few words cause i worked with russians for ten months.
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18:35.03wasynytheh
18:37.24wasynytoh well.. i hope there is someone here who understands even a little russia
18:37.42Open_Spacehehe, kak da = how to
18:38.16wasynytok
18:42.49wasynytgood evening OpenSpace
18:43.17OpenSpacegood evening
18:43.35wasynythow are you doing
18:43.42OpenSpaceI don't understand all but...
18:43.50OpenSpaceat least I can try
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18:44.41OpenSpacedoing well, thanks
18:44.50wasynytnice
18:49.45tigersuiti got a short question: do enlightenment applets work in e16?
18:53.01wasynyti think not
18:53.49tigersuitim just trying it.
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18:55.26tigersuitok. have installed the packages. menu entry "epplets" doesnt work. perhaps after a restart..
18:56.24Elive_user75_enima li nqkoi ;)
18:56.26Elive_user75_en?
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19:18.52wasynytgood evening peopke
19:18.57wasynyt*people
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19:29.46shadowvicek... trying to mount a NTFS drive via a USB but Im not getting any love
19:36.41wasynytheads to bed
19:36.44wasynytgood night peopel
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19:48.31AlexAnteMachinahi all
19:49.22shadowviceyo *)
19:49.41AlexAnteMachinahey whats up?
19:50.09AlexAnteMachinagoddamn, my neighbor drives me mad with her music.
19:52.09AlexAnteMachinaeveryday half an hour bevore she's going to work she starts turning up volume.
19:52.27raininjato get pumoed up for work
19:52.38AlexAnteMachinasure
19:52.41raininjaAlexAnteMachina: what kind of music?
19:53.04AlexAnteMachinamostly something black, I think.
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19:59.01raininjalol something black
19:59.17AlexAnteMachinawhere is the fun at it?
19:59.18raininjais there a black music? you mean like goth?
19:59.25AlexAnteMachinano
19:59.33raininjametal?
19:59.36AlexAnteMachinano
19:59.45raininjadarkwave?
19:59.53AlexAnteMachinano
20:00.02raininjaoh youmean black as in race
20:00.09AlexAnteMachinayes
20:00.34raininjaso i guess you mean reap or r&b or hiphop or something
20:00.49raininjas/reap/rap
20:01.00AlexAnteMachinar&b
20:01.05AlexAnteMachinathat's it.
20:01.12raininjaugh
20:01.18raininjai feel bad for you then
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20:02.01AlexAnteMachinadislike that kind of music
20:02.13AlexAnteMachinabut I do not like hiphop, too.
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20:26.11vincent_hi guys
20:26.42vincent_is anyone knows how to get entropy ?
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20:51.29shadowviceIm trying to get my creative Nomad to show up... I can see USB drives but Zen player yet
20:51.55shadowviceAny suggestions?
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21:24.15ruudkuinHey all; for those smart and fast enough: http://www.flashbynight.com/test/
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21:41.56decapithainehello
21:42.03decapithainethe only stable version of elive is 1.0?
21:42.22decapithaineand the next will be the 2.0?
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21:44.15shadowvicedecapithaine:  I believe so yes...
21:44.25shadowvice(lil new here as well)
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22:39.25LinuxNITthats the most worthless iq test i have ever looked at
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