IRC log for #elive on 20081020

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02:53.48roxvilleis away: sleeeeep
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03:41.40Elive_user49_enyeah
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08:09.03rhyhannHi
08:09.54rhyhannI would like to download Elive, but because Moroccan credits cards aren't international (I'm Moroccan), I can't buy it
08:10.00rhyhannWhat should I do ?
08:10.08keyrarhyhann: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
08:10.20rhyhanndownload elive
08:10.30rhyhanndownload elive buy
08:10.34keyrarhyhann: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
08:10.39rhyhannAh
08:10.49rhyhannNow I'm sure keyra is a bot
08:11.03keyrarhyhann: you think so ?
08:11.11rhyhannkeyra bot
08:11.23rhyhannkeyra is bot
08:11.25keyrarhyhann: bot
08:11.30rhyhannkeyra is a bot
08:11.52rhyhannA smart bot
08:12.05rhyhannBut I'm sure that keyra is a bot
08:12.40rhyhannSo, what should I do ?
08:12.54rhyhannIf I can't buy it, how can I download elive ?
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08:24.59pitillorhyhann, check the official elive webpage to download elive
08:25.13keyrapitillo: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
08:26.32rhyhannpitillo, How can I do that if I can't buy it ?
08:26.54rhyhannMoroccans will be abble to buy in the Internet in 2012
08:26.58rhyhannNot before
08:27.16rhyhannThey just have the right to by in Moroccans webshops
08:27.46rhyhann(This is one of the reasons why Morocco isn't touched by the crash)
08:31.42pitillorhyhann, there is a link to download it
08:31.52rhyhannpitillo, The stable version ?
08:33.09pitillorhyhann, I downloaded the unstable version
08:33.29rhyhannpitillo, I can't download the unstable
08:33.41pitillorhyhann, why?
08:33.48rhyhannI want to install it on a computer which won't have the Internet
08:34.02rhyhannit won't update
08:34.27rhyhannSo I have to make sure that everything is going to be stable
08:35.04pitillorhyhann, there is an option about people who can't make donation in the official web page
08:35.14pitillorhyhann, read the official webpage carefully
08:35.32rhyhannOk
08:35.51pitilloyou have choices, an invitacion or download the unstable version (which has no sens because you need internet connection to download the installation module)
08:37.46rhyhannOk
08:37.56rhyhannSo I'll write an article in my blog
08:38.28rhyhannI know it is not very known, but I will soon subscribe to a planet
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10:37.45Elive_user72hello
10:38.15Elive_user72is it possible 2 install elive on usb stick?
10:38.29keyraElive_user72: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe
10:39.25Elive_user72:)
10:39.26Elive_user72thx
10:41.04Elive_user72is there anyway to turn the changes that i make using livecd permanent?
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11:51.55Issahello
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13:27.30DammitJimmorning
13:30.36DammitJimcan anyone tell me if there is a way to remotely log someone off?
13:30.48DammitJimmy machine at home has elive stable
13:30.56DammitJimand I logged in locally on it
13:31.01DammitJimnow I don't have a monitor
13:31.12DammitJimcan I ssh into it and log the user off?
13:31.33DammitJimenlightenment resources are using up CPU and RAM that I need for the server to use for other applications
13:33.57roxvilleyou can ssh only if ssh is opened on the other machine
13:37.07p1asmaDammitJim: sure you can, if rootlogin is allowed and sshd running
13:48.17DammitJimok
13:48.26DammitJimsshd is running (I'm ssh'd in there now)
13:48.41DammitJimwhat do I do to log off the user from the session of X (enlightenment)
13:48.53DammitJim<PROTECTED>
13:48.57DammitJimis what top tells me
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13:53.33DammitJimwhat do I do, roxville ?
13:54.09roxvilleDammitJim,  i'm sorry... i am no good with ssh
13:54.21roxvilleplas seems to have it nailed, however
13:54.25roxvilleplasma
13:54.29roxvilleoh...he's gone
13:55.38DammitJimwhen did he log off?
13:56.44roxvilleidk... maybe when i was rebooting
13:56.52roxvilleoh
13:56.57roxvillehe IS here
13:57.13roxvilleremoves the 1 from plasma's nick
13:57.16roxvillep1asma,
13:57.21roxvillegrrrrrr.....
13:57.34roxvillelol
13:58.00DammitJimugh
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14:06.58DammitJimanybody?
14:07.04DammitJimcan I just kill the session?
14:07.11DammitJimor is there a nicer way to do that?
14:07.39roxvilleDammitJim,  ask thana
14:07.51roxvilleor google
14:08.01DammitJimThanatermesis, can you help, please?
14:08.09DammitJimI tried google, but I don't have the right parameters
14:09.01Thanatermesisdefine session
14:09.39DammitJimlol
14:09.44DammitJimok... on entrance
14:09.49DammitJimyou put in your username/password and login
14:09.52DammitJimthat type of session
14:09.58DammitJimI want to log off the user that went in
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14:22.48roxvilleis away: bbl
14:24.39p1asmaoh
14:24.42p1asmare
14:25.11p1asmaDammitJim: if you have nothing important running just kill the X
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14:33.41DammitJimkilll X?
14:33.45DammitJimthat will lgo me off?
14:38.52p1asmain your x session, yes
14:39.08p1asmaor do you mean a normal login?
14:39.17p1asmaon the shell?
14:41.32DammitJimno, I guess it is the X session
14:41.37DammitJimyou know... on elive
14:41.40DammitJimafter you log in on entrance
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15:45.26pitilloDammitJim, I can think, xmessage exporting the needed vars and then close the server
15:45.48pitilloDammitJim, a bit less ugly than stop the server directly
15:46.09DammitJimwhat?
15:46.15DammitJimxmessage exporting? how do I do that, pitillo ?
15:46.57pitilloDammitJim, export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0; xmessage "The server will be closed in 1 minute, save your work" and thenpkill /usr/bin/X
15:47.15pitilloDammitJim, something like this
15:47.55pitillothe user will be noticed with a message in the Xserver... a good way to let the user know that must save the work or it will be lost
15:48.20pitilloless ugly than stop it directly
15:49.08pitilloif you are the admin, may be using x11vnc to get the X session opened (b ut may be this is a way to broke the user privacy)
15:49.26pitillos/broke/break
15:49.29DammitJimoh
15:49.36DammitJimno need to inform the user because the user was me
15:49.38pitilloI think there are some ways to do that
15:49.41DammitJimI just don't have a display attached anymore
15:49.41DammitJimlol
15:49.46pitilloDammitJim,
15:49.54DammitJimoh yeah
15:49.57DammitJimI could use vnc
15:49.58DammitJimhhhmmmm
15:50.08DammitJim./x11vnc
15:50.22pitilloDammitJim, I use it over a ssh tunnel
15:50.33pitilloa little script to get my opened session at home from work
15:50.55pitilloif you dont have anything special, kill the server directly
15:50.56pitilloxD
15:51.16DammitJimok
15:51.21DammitJimthen just kill X right?
15:51.30pitilloyou will lost your work
15:51.30pitilloxD
15:51.35pitilloI think it is
15:52.10DammitJimthat's ok
15:52.10pitillotime to move home here :)
15:52.12DammitJimif I loose anything
15:52.14DammitJimI have no work
15:52.15DammitJimlol
15:52.18pitilloxD
15:52.18DammitJimsee ya
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15:55.00DammitJimman, does that mean I kill Xorg
15:55.03DammitJimor enlightenment?
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16:15.52Elive_user49_frhello
16:16.06DammitJimhi
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16:16.54Issahillo
16:17.18Issajuste pour savoir comment son définie les nom par défaut des eliveUSer?
16:17.41Issasa veut dire si je lance xchat depuis elive, je suis le numero 49 qui utilise elive?
16:18.03Elive_user49_fri need some help with my brand new elive 1.9.10. i encountered some problems with 3D acceleration. fgl_gears doesn't run
16:18.53Elive_user49_frfglrx gives me ati proprietary driver throught ...
16:19.00Issause the 1.9.11
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16:19.09Elive_user49_fr1.9.11
16:19.13Elive_user49_frsur ?
16:19.26Elive_user49_fravec la 1.9.11 pas de reseau ...
16:19.31Issanon mais essaye
16:19.41Issac'est vrai sa
16:19.47Elive_user49_froui j'ai essayé en live la 11
16:19.47Issail a fallut que je le configure a la main
16:19.53Elive_user49_frmais j'ai pas de resseau
16:19.55Elive_user49_frsu rla 11
16:20.06Issaoui c'est vrai
16:21.01Elive_user49_frbon a la main ca marche -> dhclient ethX
16:21.16Elive_user49_frest ok
16:21.19Issaoui c'est comme sa que j'ai fais
16:21.28Elive_user49_frmais le soucis c'est que c'est volatile -> si je minimise iceweasel
16:21.34Elive_user49_fret bien je perd la connection
16:21.38Issac'est dev d'eliv qui m'a expliquer la manip
16:21.50Issalol sa bug tans que sa
16:21.54Issanon sa m'est pas arrivé
16:21.58Issac'est sur quelle amchine?
16:22.24Elive_user49_frun laptop centrino avec une realtek interne classique comme config quoi ...
16:22.55Issaethernet
16:22.59Issasa marche pas
16:23.05Issaa cause du driveur
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16:23.14Elive_user49_frethernet oui  !!! !
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16:24.00Elive_user49_frje sais pas trop au boot il y avais une erreur du style 'not loading realtek XXXX'  
16:24.03Issawhats the output of lspci and lsmod
16:24.13Issail faudrait que tu envoi sa
16:24.19Issaau debug d'elive
16:24.27Elive_user49_frIssa : anglais ou fr ? la discution
16:24.40Elive_user49_frlsmod est ok pour la realtek XXXX
16:25.14Elive_user49_frje pensait a une compilation du noyau sans le driver realtek aproprié
16:25.21Elive_user49_frje l'ai donc ajouté
16:25.26Issahttp://groups.google.fr/group/elive-testers?hl=fr
16:25.51Issaet sa a marché?
16:26.58Issatiens
16:27.03Issala 1.9.12
16:27.05Issaest sortie
16:27.05Elive_user49_froui et non -> le dhclient ethX a marché mais des que je minimise le firefox
16:27.15Elive_user49_fret bien adios network
16:27.16Issahttp://elive.icedslash.com/isos/development/
16:27.27Issaje vais la tester de ce pas
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16:27.45Issadommage je suis pas a la fac il ont une connexion de dingue
16:28.52Elive_user49_frjejeje
16:29.02Issaq
16:29.04Elive_user49_frmoi je suis en espagne
16:29.11Elive_user49_frdonc pas de serveur national ...
16:29.14Elive_user49_frdomage
16:29.40Elive_user49_frma fac une des  meilleures connexions  du pay ...
16:30.59Issaoula y a déja un rapport sur la 1.9.12 et apparrement niveau réseaux c'est pas le top
16:31.22Elive_user49_frje comprend pas trop l'equipe de devel la dessus ...
16:31.40Elive_user49_frle resseau c'est lepremier truc a fixer ...
16:31.56Issaoué mais ils veullent avoir leur propres gestionnaire de réseaux
16:32.08Issapropre à élive et je pense que c'est pas le top
16:32.23Issac'est le début c'est normal, principe de la courbe en beignoird
16:32.51Elive_user49_froui c'est sur !
16:33.19Elive_user49_frmais bon comment faire qu'une distrib devienne populaire si c'est la galere rein que pour se connecter ...
16:33.35Elive_user49_frje pense qu'il faudrais revoir leur sisteme de release ...
16:34.02Issail s ont pas assez de testeur aussi
16:35.49Elive_user49_frcomment on s'inscrit pour tester
16:35.56Elive_user49_frje suispas un dieu du linux
16:36.07Elive_user49_frmais je peu au moin essayer ...
16:36.09Issamoi aussi je sais meme pas comment on compile un noyau
16:36.19Issasur google group
16:36.21Issail y ale group elive
16:36.24Issainscrit toi
16:36.33Issaet tu pourras poster les commentaires que tu as
16:36.46Elive_user49_frca sert a rien un groupe de discution pour ce genre de chose ...
16:36.54Elive_user49_frje vais regarder
16:37.09Elive_user49_frtout de meme
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17:27.56AlexAnteMachinahi all
17:28.39AlexAnteMachinasomebody already tried 1.9.12?
17:29.33DammitJim1.9.12? whoa!
17:31.18AlexAnteMachinano, not whoa, but Elive.
17:36.24necro_itachi_shehe
17:36.47necro_itachi_si can upgrade 1.9.11 to 1.9.12 with apt-get dist-upgrade ?
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17:41.02Elive_user29d
17:41.31AlexAnteMachinanecro_itachi_s, I dont think so.
17:42.40necro_itachi_show can i see what version is my entrance ?
17:44.49AlexAnteMachinadont know. there is a terminal command for reading versionnumbers.
17:47.00necro_itachi_si knwo that too, but i cant figure it which is it :Dž
17:47.39AlexAnteMachiname too
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19:22.25Elive_user69hello :] jest moze ktos z polski?
19:23.07Elive_user69ok nie przeszkadzam
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20:25.46Elive_user14hola
20:26.00keyraElive_user14: que tal ?
20:26.14Elive_user14kmu bien
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20:26.41Elive_user14<PROTECTED>
20:26.51DaRtHoElive_user14, que reproductor '
20:27.06Elive_user14megavideo por ejemplo
20:27.41DaRtHoo.0
20:27.44DaRtHono lo conozco :P
20:27.51Elive_user14me refiero a un video que esta en streaming en una pagina
20:27.53DaRtHoen la mayoria con oprimir f se pone a pantalla completa ^^
20:28.00DaRtHoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
20:28.10DaRtHoahí si depende, normalmente traen un boton para eso :S
20:28.26Elive_user14ah muchas gracias tron
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20:43.42DaRtHoThanatermesis, (o
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21:06.13DaRtHoThana`, (o xD
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22:51.48Elive_user42is away: See my screenshots http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots
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