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02:41.44superaltinohi  everybody
02:42.00superaltinohow  are  you
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04:30.46elmo-1_9_14i still dont know why i cant listen to anything... the onboard audio is the only one that is recognized. maybe it is a missing module ;)
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04:31.03aptthanatermesis <n=unkown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 14d 12h 40m 27s ago, saying: 'diabetik, later tell yawlright please give me more details about the Nvidia (96xx) problem or i can't fix it'.
04:31.03diabetikelmo-1_9_14: thanatermesis was last seen in #elive 2 weeks, 0 days, 12 hours, 40 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Thanatermesis> diabetik, later tell yawlright please give me more details about the Nvidia (96xx) problem or i can't fix it
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10:33.43wasynyt_eeemorning people
10:33.48meborcmorning
10:40.10wasynyt_eeehow are you doing meborc
10:41.01meborcnot bad, wasynyt ... i have a day off... i should be doing my lab reports, but i'm reading news instead
10:41.05meborca good day
10:41.11wasynyt_eeeheh
10:41.18wasynyt_eeesounds good
10:41.49meborci have a beer open... and my waterpipe is just a reach away :)
10:42.07meborcso, yes... a good day with nothing to do...
10:42.35wasynyt_eeenice
10:43.20meborcby the way, ubuntu-classroom has open week this weel
10:43.27meborcstarts at 15:00 UTC
10:43.47meborcweek*
10:44.27meborcso at 15:00 mark shuttleworth will have a Q+A session for 2 hours... this could be good to keep me occupied
10:44.29meborc:)
10:44.31wasynyt_eeewhat is ubuntu-classroom
10:44.45meborca chatroom here
10:44.52wasynyt_eeek
10:45.17meborci always miss those... since i'm at the university or doing something else...
10:45.32meborcso today is a good day
10:46.09wasynyt_eeek
10:46.20meborcand you?
10:46.25meborcwhat's your day like?
10:49.02wasynyt_eeeboring..
10:49.14wasynyt_eeei am ill so i cant really do anything
10:49.21meborcwhat?
10:49.26meborcyou are wrong
10:49.30wasynyt_eeeheh
10:49.37meborcwhen you are ill, you can do ANYTHING
10:49.39meborc:D
10:49.49meborcyou have all the time in the world
10:49.55wasynyt_eeewell having fewer stops me going outside for long periods of time
10:50.02meborcyou can try to make it into the 47th level in nethack
10:50.12wasynyt_eeei really dont want to
10:50.13wasynyt_eee:D
10:50.19meborcyou have the internet!
10:50.24wasynyt_eeei would rather go and do something
10:50.44wasynyt_eeei allread have overdose of internet
10:50.57meborcwell... i always go and do something... so thats why i like to have a day off to just mess with my laptop
10:51.04meborcthen it is bad...
10:51.35meborcyou should get some of your friends over and have a poker night!
10:51.36wasynyt_eeeheh
10:51.37meborc;)
10:51.55wasynyt_eeeand all my friends will be sick as well
10:51.57wasynyt_eeegood plan
10:52.14meborcwell, you will all be sick together
10:53.01wasynyt_eeei dont think that they would like the idea
10:53.13meborcwhen i'm sick, i usually take a good book and dissapear for a few days
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10:54.21meborcyou can always make prank-calls
10:54.23meborc:)
10:54.35wasynyt_eeehmm.. i think i should visit libary today
10:54.41wasynyt_eeeor book store
10:54.41meborcyeah...
10:54.51meborci can suggest you a book
10:55.22wasynyt_eeeis planning on making a short trip to get some food and perhaps some other stuff
10:55.24wasynyt_eeewhat?
10:55.35meborcGeorge R. R. Martin - A Game of Thrones
10:55.56meborcthe no 1 book in the world... from there a 6 book saga begins
10:56.07meborchttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire
10:56.21meborci like the way this author writes
10:56.35meborcthere is no 1 hero in this story
10:57.20meborcthere is no good or evil... just a mixture of lifestories... written in a perfect fantasy kind of way
10:57.27wasynyt_eeehmm
10:57.31wasynyt_eeesounds interesting
10:57.34keyrameborc: life is only good because I'm here :)
10:57.41meborcgive it a try, you won't regret
10:57.44wasynyt_eeei wonder if we have that in finland
10:57.50wasynyt_eeeapt slap keyra
10:57.51aptACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
10:57.54meborcsure you have
10:57.59meborcwe have it in estonia
10:58.04keyrawasynyt_eee: But... is true... :(
10:58.20wasynyt_eeenice
10:58.23wasynyt_eee:D
10:58.36meborcgeorge r r martin is one of the best fantasy writers of our times, i promise you!
10:58.44meborc;)
10:59.12meborcyou can buy me a beer later when you realise how good that book is
10:59.39meborci have read the first 4 books
10:59.52meborcbook no 5 will be out in spring 2009
11:00.12wasynyt_eeehmm
11:00.48meborci couldn't stop reading until i had read the 600p almost in one go :D
11:00.52wasynyt_eeewell i dont actually read that much fantasy. but i think i could check that book
11:00.56wasynyt_eeeheh
11:01.47meborcnow i want to read it :(
11:02.00wasynyt_eee:P
11:02.03meborchere goes my perfect day
11:02.27wasynyt_eeenah i dont think that a day goes to waste when reading a book
11:02.41meborctotta puhut
11:03.58wasynyt_eeeheh
11:04.22wasynyt_eeemitenkas virolaiselta sujuu suomi?
11:04.31wasynyt_eeevai onko se eestilainen
11:05.04meborcno kyllä mä ymmärran, mutta ei osa kirjotta... molemmat ovat hyvät
11:05.16wasynyt_eee:D
11:05.38wasynyt_eeehyvinhän tuo näyttää onnistuvan
11:06.13meborchaha, on tullut tarpeeksi... osalistuin Sotahuudo 2007 ja 2008 pelillä
11:06.20meborcsotahuuto*
11:06.58meborcit is so hard to write in finnish, since i have never done it really :)
11:07.02meborcso weird
11:07.04wasynyt_eee:D
11:07.15wasynyt_eeeheh well same for me for your language
11:07.22meborcyeah
11:07.33meborci live in stockholm now... studying here
11:07.44meborcbut i might come to live in finland next year
11:08.07meborcIF i get a job at the new Olkiluoto nuclear plant
11:08.21wasynyt_eeeheh
11:08.26assasukassemeborc: what are u studying
11:08.32wasynyt_eeethat ought to be interesting place to work
11:08.40meborcnuclear energy engineering
11:08.46assasukassecool
11:08.51assasukasseanother nuclear engineer
11:08.59meborcyou too?
11:09.03assasukasseyea
11:09.06meborcsweet
11:09.12meborcyou study/work?
11:09.19assasukassebut i am a nuclear engineer, not a nuclear energy engineer..
11:09.34assasukassei work, in a totally different field...
11:09.56assasukassemeborc: honours or master?
11:10.08meborcmaster, what is honours?
11:10.14assasukassebachelor
11:10.17meborcah
11:10.39assasukassei might apply for phd this year
11:10.45meborci took my bachelor in electrical drives and power electronics... and my master in KTH Stockholm in NEE
11:11.18meborcgood for you, i just want to get into the industry... i'm not much of a researcher
11:11.20assasukasseah i see...im a full nuclear, nuclear bachelor and nuclear master.
11:11.38wasynyt_eeenice
11:11.47meborcnuclear rocks!
11:11.50meborc:)
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11:12.01assasukassemeborc: i live in a country with no nuclear ehehehe
11:12.07meborcwhere?
11:12.18assasukasseitaly
11:12.19meborci thought you were italian
11:12.23assasukasseyea
11:12.28assasukassewe don't have nuclear
11:12.33meborcbut you had nuclear
11:12.39assasukasseor better, we have a small reactor in our university
11:13.22meborcyou have some closed reactors if i'm not mistaken
11:13.32assasukasseyup
11:14.00meborcyou should build some more... you waste money buying electricity from France :)
11:14.14meborcyou from south or north of Italy?
11:14.39assasukassesouth
11:14.43meborcok...
11:15.08meborcwell, i hope you have better weather there
11:15.34meborcit was 1 C last evening... ground was frosen
11:16.09meborcwasynyt, "the winter is coming" - that is the code sentence of the snow family from the R.R. Martins book!
11:16.16elmo-1_9_141C ? it will be approx +12C here
11:16.31wasynyt_eeeok
11:16.39meborcit is warm now... but last night was bad
11:16.41assasukassetoday is rather sunny
11:16.42wasynyt_eeewell i would love the winter to come
11:16.56wasynyt_eeebut now.. only dark when no snow
11:16.57assasukasseapprox 13° at now
11:17.00wasynyt_eeecold and dark :D
11:17.01meborcmaybe this year i even get to ski :)
11:17.14assasukasseyesterday was 23°C :D
11:17.16wasynyt_eeethat would be something
11:17.20wasynyt_eeeassasukasse, -_-
11:17.38assasukasseyea, rather spring than winter..
11:18.29assasukassemeborc: i prefer they don't build nuclear reactors over here...they will cost too much, the population will give too many troubles, and probably they won't be built correctly
11:19.01wasynyt_eeequite pessimistic view
11:19.01meborcassasukasse, i understand... it is Italy (no offence)
11:19.06meborc:)
11:19.26meborcthe finnish built a new plant
11:19.32assasukassemeborc: no offence, is me first that says it...we really need a good cleaning of all the politicians...
11:19.33meborcand they have tons of problems
11:20.15meborcassasukasse, good luck with that... i think a lot of countries need that... the us already had their "change" ;)
11:20.48assasukassemeborc: we need something more radical than that...like mass executions and such..
11:21.15meborc:) you will get into trouble for saying that
11:21.29meborcor am i still living in the communist Estonia
11:21.30meborc:D
11:22.11assasukassemeborc: the situation is out of control here...really
11:22.24assasukasseapproximate 99% of the politicians are totally corrupted
11:22.38wasynyt_eee:S
11:22.41assasukassethey earn like crazy and keep raising their wages
11:23.03assasukassethey have free planes, free housing, free lunches, free travels, free cars free phone and else
11:23.12meborcin Estonia, the parlament tried to freeze their own wages... but the opposition blocked it
11:23.31assasukasseconsider just the national government eats approx 30% of the PIL
11:23.40meborcthat is bad
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11:24.11meborchave you ever considered moving to another country?
11:24.38assasukassemeborc: http://assasukasse.wordpress.com/why-i-will-leave-the-sinking-boat/
11:25.36meborc:)
11:25.41meborcsad actually
11:26.27assasukassemeborc: more angry than sad
11:27.28assasukassemeborc: estonia is not communist :D
11:28.02meborcno... but it is so easy to think it is... since i was born into it
11:28.45meborcnow the people think the polotitians are bad cuz they do too many things for EU... :) used to be the opposite
11:28.48assasukasse:D born with : Privet tovarish meborc, kak dela? :D
11:29.12meborcharašo... u tebje pivo jest?
11:29.20meborcyup
11:29.51meborcwell, fortunatly everyone still spoke in estonian... the 2/3 of the nation at least
11:30.04assasukassenormalno :D
11:31.34meborcok guys
11:31.42meborci feel like playing a little FPS
11:31.48assasukasselol :D
11:31.51meborcso i'm away for a while
11:31.57meborcwasynyt, BUY THAT BOOK
11:32.04meborcyou will not regret it
11:32.14meborcassasukasse, good luck! and talk to you later
11:32.19meborcsee you guys!
11:32.20assasukassegood enemy territory
11:32.53meborcis away: FPS - CS, ETQW and then a little teeworlds
11:34.25wasynyt_eeehmm
11:34.41wasynyt_eeetries to make a list of things he need to get
11:54.03wasynyt_eeesee you people later
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15:05.23mathesisprogrm iwlist with graphics?
15:05.52meborcmathesis, what?
15:06.40mathesisiwlist an iwconfig with gtk o qt?
15:07.57mathesiswhat is driver for its card Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter?
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15:13.18meborcahh... that i don't know
15:13.40mathesishow can i install sources and headers in elive?
15:13.53mathesiswhat is packAge name?
15:14.41meborci would search in synaptic
15:14.48meborci have no idea :)
15:24.22assasukassewasynyt: are u here?
15:24.57meborche went to buy a book ;)
15:25.16assasukasseoh ok :D
15:28.43wasynytdidnt buy the book
15:28.46wasynyt:8
15:29.02wasynytafternoon people
15:29.31assasukassewasynyt: can i query you
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15:30.43wasynytsorry.. but what do you mean assasukasse
15:30.46Elive_user88_enhello
15:30.52Elive_user88_eni use the gnome network manager
15:30.55wasynytafternoon
15:31.00Elive_user88_enbut how i can use it when elive start?
15:32.45wasynytwhat do you want assasukasse
15:33.02assasukassewasynyt: i sent you a message
15:33.04assasukassedid u get?
15:33.08wasynytahh
15:33.12wasynytis very slow
15:33.14wasynytok
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15:35.51mathesisi need package for compiler programs?
15:36.01mathesissources or headers?
15:36.38meborcmathesis, if you beed to compile something, you need the build-essential package... is that what you are aksing?
15:36.42meborcneed*
15:36.54mathesisok
15:37.05mathesisbuild-essential
15:38.02mathesisi goes compiler driver madwifi
15:38.16keyramathesis: compile a driver... check http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff
15:42.03Elive_user88_enu have news from thana?
15:43.31meborcElive_user88_en, you can add what programs you need to start up with elive in ./.elxstrt file
15:47.30Elive_user88_enthanks and how ica add onibox program, who is not on the program?
15:48.00meborcwhat is onibox?
15:52.28Elive_user88_enwell i found
15:52.31Elive_user88_enit's not easy
15:52.53Elive_user88_enbut i found, how i can add new shortcut on ibar when u don't have the progrma on the list
15:53.30meborcconfiguration panel - applications - new application
15:53.54meborcthen it appears in the app list in itask-ng conf
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16:28.10Elive_user88_enhow to install open office please?
16:31.19meborcElive_user88_en, go to openoffice.org, download the deb tar pack
16:31.32Elive_user88_enok
16:31.33keyrameborc: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
16:31.43meborcuntar... and install all debs in the DEBS folder
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16:37.41meborcElive_user88_en, oh, and to launch openoffice 3, you have to go to /opt/openoffice.org3/programs and there are launchers soffice scalc swriter etc
16:38.20Elive_user88_enok why u don't have make shortcut, on the clik right of e?
16:42.50meborcsince i'm no developer, i can't answer that question :)
16:44.24assasukassethe italian president said about obama: he is cute, tall and tanned......
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16:45.14meborcassasukasse, NO WAY :D
16:45.26meborctanned?
16:45.30assasukasseyea
16:45.32assasukasseTANNED
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16:50.32wasynyt:P
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17:03.44assasukassethanks wasynyt the website is very helpful
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17:17.28AlexAnteMachinahi all
17:18.12Elive_user88_enhello
17:18.47Elive_user88_eni have downkoad openn offisce 3 and i have fils in OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_fr_deb.tar.gz
17:18.51Elive_user88_enhow to install it please?
17:23.12wasynytassasukasse, good
17:23.24meborcElive_user88_en, untar it
17:23.42meborcopen your thunar and right-click untar
17:23.47meborcunpack*
17:24.51meborcthen open up terminal, navigate to the folder just unpacked... navigate to DEBS... then in root, dpkg -i *
17:26.02Elive_user88_enthx works now wwhere the executable, please?
17:26.05Elive_user88_enhow to lunch it?
17:26.32meborc/opt/openoffice.org3/programs
17:26.51meborcthere are swriter and others
17:26.55Elive_user88_enno
17:26.56Elive_user88_enfound
17:26.58Elive_user88_enno found
17:27.06Elive_user88_enhow search openoffice?
17:27.32meborc/opt/openoffice.org3/program/
17:27.35meborcnot programs
17:28.16Elive_user88_enworks cool
17:28.24meborcno problem :)
17:28.36Elive_user88_enknow i need to create some shortcup why he is not automatique on e
17:28.37Elive_user88_enarg
17:28.42Elive_user88_enthanks very much
17:29.40meborcit is easy
17:29.47Elive_user88_enbut it s long
17:29.54meborcgo to configuration panel
17:30.19Elive_user88_enok
17:30.32meborcapplications - new application... locate the swriter/scalc ... find a good icon from /usr/share/icons
17:30.41meborcthen add from itask-ng conf
17:32.38Elive_user88_enoki thanks cool
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17:33.53Elive_user88_engreatet
17:33.58Elive_user88_eni love elive
17:34.03Elive_user88_ensomeon have news from thana?
17:34.45meborcnot yet
17:35.11meborcapt seen thanatermesis
17:35.14aptthanatermesis <n=unkown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 15d 1h 44m 38s ago, saying: 'diabetik, later tell yawlright please give me more details about the Nvidia (96xx) problem or i can't fix it'.
17:35.25Elive_user88_enapt seen Issa
17:35.27aptissa <n=Issa@fenelon.info.iut.u-bordeaux1.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 22h 36m 49s ago, saying: 'lol'.
17:35.33Elive_user88_en:apt seen Issa
17:40.19Elive_user88_encool i have open office works
17:41.18meborcgood for you :)
17:42.01Elive_user88_enbut one question
17:42.10Elive_user88_enwhat about the futur for elive
17:42.31Elive_user88_endo you think in 5 month elive, was good, if i can make any update of the system?
17:42.33Elive_user88_enlike ubuntu?
17:42.40Elive_user88_eni have this question
17:42.42Elive_user88_en??
17:42.45keyraElive_user88_en: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
17:45.18meborcElive_user88_en, you are comparing a "one man project" to a "leading linux distro" :) so elive development will be much slower... this is both good and bad... good is, if it works now, it will work for a long time
17:45.46Elive_user88_enok and what about secuure?N
17:46.02meborcelive is based on debian... all security updates will still come through
17:47.33Elive_user88_enhow update?
17:48.44meborcsu... apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
17:49.17meborcbut
17:49.25meborcwhich version are you running?
17:49.36meborcgem or development?
17:52.08Elive_user88_endev
17:52.38meborcthen yeah, you can keep up-to-date with dist-upgrade
17:54.01Elive_user88_en??
17:54.25Elive_user88_ena yes
17:54.34Elive_user88_eni make update with apt-get dist-upgrade
17:55.31meborcyes
17:55.55Elive_user88_enwhen the new dev was out
17:56.20Elive_user88_enand i need to reinstall, i will lost, all my config, shortcut, theme configuration?
17:57.36meborcif you don't have /home on a different partition - YES
17:57.49meborcbut you don't need to reinstall
17:57.51Elive_user88_eni have three partition
17:57.56meborcif you dist-upgrade
17:58.03Elive_user88_en1 swap, 1 / and one /home
17:58.33meborcwell, if you do not touch /home then you have all the same configurations saved
17:58.46meborcbut be careful
17:59.11meborcit is easy to wipe clean... make backup of /home
17:59.39Elive_user88_ensomeone have a how to
17:59.40Elive_user88_en?
18:00.27meborcthis is a very general thing... google will help you... i don't know any howtos on that :)
18:05.32Elive_user88_enok
18:05.42Elive_user88_eni see when i will have this problem
18:05.53Elive_user88_enthx
18:05.57Elive_user88_ensee you later
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18:27.31bouba_ciao assasukasse, ti poffo sare una domandina riguardo le icone in e17?
18:27.56assasukassedire
18:29.39bouba_ciao :) , dunque io apro eclipse da terminal. come icona del programma usa quella del terminal. se poi clicco sull'icona della finestra e gli dico di inserire questa applicazione in ibar, lui mi mette il terminal. come posso mettere quella per aprire eclipse? non l'ho mai capito come funziona.... grazie
18:35.36assasukasseallora
18:35.47assasukasseapri eclipse con alt+esc
18:35.56assasukasseclicchi sull'icona in alto a sinistra nella finestra
18:36.06assasukasseedit icon, e seleziona l'icona che vuoi
18:36.19assasukasseda allora in poi sara' quella
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18:40.53bouba_ok grazie mille provero' :)
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19:41.04assasukassethe whole universe is laughing: http://www.repubblica.it/2006/05/gallerie/esteri/gaffe-berlusconi/1.html
19:42.00ConvertedHello room, were can I find the screen save setting in Elive ?
19:42.55Convertednm I remeber now.
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23:05.21Elive_user71hrm
23:05.26Elive_user71interesting distro you guys have gonig
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