| 00:00.11 | finql2 | well |
| 00:00.11 | finql2 | they are installed |
| 00:00.21 | genar | both? |
| 00:00.23 | finql2 | yes |
| 00:00.49 | finql2 | even ipw3945-modules-...-elive |
| 00:01.01 | genar | good |
| 00:01.29 | genar | you can see the dmesg messages to detect the possible error |
| 00:01.50 | genar | /var/log/dmesg |
| 00:02.28 | genar | what laptop did you have? |
| 00:02.43 | genar | (sorry for my english :P) |
| 00:02.57 | finql2 | dell inspiron 6400 |
| 00:03.27 | finql2 | look this is the post on elive forums : http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?27,730 |
| 00:04.42 | finql2 | i dont see any error in the dmesg log |
| 00:05.22 | finql2 | got a question |
| 00:05.32 | finql2 | where can we see APs on elive ? |
| 00:05.50 | genar | i use nm-applet |
| 00:06.38 | genar | in command line you can do it with: iwlist scan |
| 00:06.58 | finql2 | iwlist cmd not found |
| 00:07.02 | finql2 | iwconfig too |
| 00:07.12 | genar | with root? |
| 00:07.30 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:07.31 | finql2 | no |
| 00:07.33 | genar | as normal user doesn't work these commands |
| 00:07.37 | finql2 | ok |
| 00:07.39 | finql2 | sry |
| 00:07.41 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:08.08 | finql2 | i see that eth2 i my wifi card |
| 00:08.59 | genar | you can install nm-applet to setup the wifi connection as in Ubuntu |
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| 00:12.51 | finql2 | hey |
| 00:12.53 | finql2 | back |
| 00:13.05 | finql2 | so |
| 00:13.15 | finql2 | i see my AP |
| 00:13.21 | genar | ok |
| 00:13.26 | finql2 | i tried to connect on it by iwconfig |
| 00:13.27 | genar | with iwlist scan? |
| 00:13.30 | finql2 | yes |
| 00:13.33 | genar | ok |
| 00:13.39 | finql2 | i wrote |
| 00:13.44 | genar | then your wifi card works fine |
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| 00:13.54 | finql2 | i cant log on my ap |
| 00:13.59 | keyra | genar: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 00:14.00 | finql2 | connect* |
| 00:14.12 | genar | ok |
| 00:14.29 | genar | i don't know how you can connect with iwconfig |
| 00:14.37 | genar | i use nm-applet |
| 00:14.46 | finql2 | by default nm-applet doesnt exist |
| 00:14.53 | finql2 | aptitude and its good ? |
| 00:14.53 | genar | yes |
| 00:15.03 | genar | you can to install |
| 00:15.16 | genar | should |
| 00:15.16 | genar | :P |
| 00:15.17 | finql2 | fr |
| 00:15.20 | finql2 | ? |
| 00:15.29 | genar | apt-get install nm-applet |
| 00:16.12 | finql2 | :( |
| 00:16.16 | finql2 | without net |
| 00:16.24 | finql2 | its complicated |
| 00:16.47 | finql2 | im surprised that there is no utility like this, natively, in Elive |
| 00:16.54 | genar | you don't can connect with ethernet cable? |
| 00:17.00 | finql2 | no |
| 00:17.04 | finql2 | only wifi |
| 00:17.13 | genar | ok... |
| 00:17.14 | finql2 | :( |
| 00:18.01 | genar | in settings panel-> system there aren't a wifi utility? |
| 00:19.00 | finql2 | hey |
| 00:19.05 | finql2 | its good |
| 00:19.11 | finql2 | i googled a little bit |
| 00:19.19 | finql2 | and i found the missing cmd line |
| 00:19.24 | finql2 | i got the net now |
| 00:19.25 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:19.37 | genar | congratulations! |
| 00:19.38 | genar | :P |
| 00:19.40 | finql2 | thank you very much |
| 00:19.41 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:20.02 | genar | you're welcome |
| 00:20.08 | finql2 | im too used to windows |
| 00:20.10 | finql2 | omg |
| 00:20.50 | genar | bad thing |
| 00:20.56 | finql2 | yeah |
| 00:20.58 | genar | xD |
| 00:21.30 | finql2 | where do u come from ? |
| 00:21.52 | genar | from spain |
| 00:21.57 | finql2 | ok |
| 00:22.03 | finql2 | a neighbor |
| 00:22.04 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:22.04 | genar | and you? france? |
| 00:22.07 | finql2 | yes |
| 00:22.28 | genar | i'm from cataloni exactly |
| 00:22.30 | genar | :P |
| 00:22.35 | finql2 | =o |
| 00:22.36 | genar | catalonia |
| 00:22.50 | finql2 | ok! =D |
| 00:22.52 | genar | you understand... |
| 00:22.59 | finql2 | yes |
| 00:23.01 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:23.17 | genar | but at the moment i'm living in granada |
| 00:23.34 | finql2 | how much celsius degree there ? |
| 00:24.42 | genar | I dont know |
| 00:24.47 | genar | xDDD |
| 00:24.52 | finql2 | where u live |
| 00:24.55 | finql2 | hot |
| 00:24.56 | finql2 | cold |
| 00:24.57 | finql2 | ? |
| 00:24.59 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:25.13 | finql2 | cauz here, omg, too cold |
| 00:25.14 | genar | zero |
| 00:25.20 | finql2 | xD |
| 00:25.55 | genar | granada is a cold place in winter |
| 00:26.22 | finql2 | noluck |
| 00:26.58 | genar | when you live in france? |
| 00:27.01 | genar | where |
| 00:27.02 | genar | sorry |
| 00:27.05 | finql2 | lyon |
| 00:27.11 | genar | ohhh |
| 00:27.28 | genar | i have a friend from lyon |
| 00:27.40 | finql2 | world is small |
| 00:27.41 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:27.41 | genar | his name is james |
| 00:27.49 | genar | and is living in granada |
| 00:27.54 | finql2 | ok |
| 00:28.21 | finql2 | oh |
| 00:28.24 | finql2 | just 1 thing |
| 00:28.29 | finql2 | apt-get install nm-applet |
| 00:28.32 | finql2 | doesnt find |
| 00:28.57 | finql2 | why? |
| 00:28.59 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:28.59 | genar | you must do apt-get update is it a recently installed |
| 00:29.21 | finql2 | yes |
| 00:29.24 | finql2 | ok |
| 00:29.50 | genar | because apt doesn't have information of the available packages |
| 00:31.18 | finql2 | okay thx |
| 00:32.02 | finql2 | i really got a crappy not |
| 00:32.08 | finql2 | i live in a student resident |
| 00:32.12 | finql2 | thats why it sux... |
| 00:32.14 | genar | to setup nm-applet to start on e17 start you must to add app in settings and later put in startup apps |
| 00:33.33 | finql2 | thx you |
| 00:33.58 | finql2 | elive is really a beautifull distro |
| 00:34.04 | genar | yes it is |
| 00:34.05 | genar | :P |
| 00:34.17 | finql2 | just somethings to add natively |
| 00:34.54 | genar | yes |
| 00:35.07 | genar | but it is because e17 is developing |
| 00:35.08 | finql2 | i have done apt-get update |
| 00:35.13 | genar | and it's not stable yet |
| 00:35.27 | finql2 | but apt-get install nm-applet continue to dont work\ |
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| 00:35.39 | genar | in e17 there are a module called exalt to do the wifi conections |
| 00:35.49 | genar | but it's not stable |
| 00:36.25 | genar | try network-manager-gnome |
| 00:36.40 | genar | in my repositories it's here both |
| 00:36.57 | genar | nm-applet is a virtual package pointing to network-manager-gnome |
| 00:37.05 | finql2 | ok |
| 00:37.40 | finql2 | it works |
| 00:37.48 | finql2 | thx |
| 00:37.49 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:37.52 | genar | fine |
| 00:38.40 | genar | you can do alt+esc to run it |
| 00:38.59 | genar | and then connection icon apears in trayer |
| 00:39.20 | finql2 | i type : network |
| 00:39.29 | finql2 | and there is no network-manager-... |
| 00:39.31 | genar | no nm-applet |
| 00:39.46 | finql2 | ye |
| 00:39.48 | finql2 | good |
| 00:39.50 | finql2 | ty |
| 00:40.03 | genar | it works? |
| 00:40.39 | finql2 | well |
| 00:40.47 | finql2 | nothing changed on my screen |
| 00:40.57 | finql2 | i found nm-applet |
| 00:41.15 | finql2 | wrote it on the window appeared by alt+esc |
| 00:41.27 | finql2 | saw it in the list |
| 00:41.33 | genar | an icon should appear on the tray in bottom-left |
| 00:41.42 | finql2 | nop |
| 00:42.11 | finql2 | got firefox and the term |
| 00:42.13 | finql2 | only |
| 00:42.36 | genar | did you have a trayer on bottom left? |
| 00:42.49 | finql2 | yes |
| 00:42.50 | genar | with a yellow icon of the stickies notes? |
| 00:43.10 | finql2 | dont see the sticky notes |
| 00:43.10 | genar | and there is not nm-applet? |
| 00:43.21 | finql2 | but i see my firefox icons |
| 00:43.27 | genar | in my elive it was by default |
| 00:43.44 | finql2 | in the list there were nm-applet |
| 00:44.00 | finql2 | but nothing appears when i clicked on it |
| 00:44.08 | finql2 | i tryied to run it in cmd line |
| 00:44.20 | genar | because nm-applet is a tray icon (like windows) |
| 00:44.24 | finql2 | i type nm-applet |
| 00:44.46 | finql2 | its like there is an inifinite loop |
| 00:44.48 | finql2 | =D |
| 00:45.01 | genar | xDDD |
| 00:45.04 | finql2 | i must kill th eprocess |
| 00:45.14 | genar | it's possible |
| 00:45.35 | genar | in my system when i run nm-applet it puts itself in trayer |
| 00:45.44 | finql2 | hmmmm |
| 00:46.02 | finql2 | well |
| 00:46.10 | finql2 | ill try with another wifi manager |
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| 00:46.32 | genar | ok |
| 00:46.34 | finql2 | do u know an other ? |
| 00:46.54 | genar | yes |
| 00:47.02 | genar | wicd |
| 00:47.15 | finql2 | wait |
| 00:47.24 | genar | wpagui |
| 00:47.27 | finql2 | i was in root mode |
| 00:47.36 | genar | but for me nm-applet is better |
| 00:47.38 | finql2 | i left root mode ant retype nm-applet |
| 00:47.50 | finql2 | a warning appears infinitely |
| 00:48.07 | genar | what says the warning |
| 00:48.12 | finql2 | nma_dbus_init() couldnt acquire its service |
| 00:49.02 | genar | try (with root) /etc/init.d/network-manager start |
| 00:49.10 | finql2 | ... not allowed to own the service org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo due to a security policies ... |
| 00:49.49 | finql2 | aint got that |
| 00:50.01 | finql2 | networking ? |
| 00:50.20 | finql2 | there is no network-manager in init.d |
| 00:50.36 | genar | no? |
| 00:50.53 | finql2 | no |
| 00:51.19 | genar | it's possible that with network-mager-gnome another needed packages doesn't installed |
| 00:51.36 | finql2 | apt-get doesnt install the necessary packages ? |
| 00:51.44 | finql2 | associated to the file i dl |
| 00:51.45 | finql2 | ? |
| 00:51.46 | genar | with aptitude you can watch the recomended packages of the network-manager |
| 00:51.50 | finql2 | ok |
| 00:53.49 | genar | apt-get usually install the needed packages, but sometimes not install some high useful packages to program works |
| 00:54.08 | finql2 | omg |
| 00:54.55 | finql2 | i type aptitude search network-... |
| 00:55.08 | finql2 | where appears the packages |
| 00:55.31 | finql2 | doesnt find an option in the man for that |
| 00:55.51 | genar | for what? |
| 00:56.05 | finql2 | see whats packages are necessary to a package |
| 00:56.08 | genar | ok |
| 00:56.17 | genar | when you find the package press intro |
| 00:56.27 | genar | and the program enter to package description |
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| 00:56.59 | finql2 | need to go in interactive then |
| 00:57.06 | genar | where explains the needed packages, the recommended packages and the packages depended of it |
| 00:57.12 | genar | yes |
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| 00:58.48 | finql2 | ok |
| 00:58.55 | finql2 | i see the packge desc |
| 00:59.41 | finql2 | i see something in red : notification-daemon |
| 00:59.50 | genar | aptitude is a good ware to maintain the packages |
| 01:00.04 | finql2 | its write (i translate) : NOT DONE |
| 01:00.18 | finql2 | thats means thats this is a missing package ? |
| 01:00.29 | finql2 | im goind to dl it |
| 01:00.36 | genar | yes i thing |
| 01:00.46 | genar | try to install every red package |
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| 01:06.29 | finql2 | well |
| 01:06.35 | finql2 | i have all the packets |
| 01:06.38 | finql2 | packages |
| 01:06.50 | finql2 | but it continue to doesnt work |
| 01:07.52 | genar | i don't know wath happens |
| 01:08.01 | finql2 | :( |
| 01:08.06 | genar | in my computer it runs well |
| 01:08.17 | finql2 | ill try wicd |
| 01:08.20 | genar | nm-applet runs as normal user |
| 01:08.25 | finql2 | yes |
| 01:08.50 | genar | if you open amsn it puts a icon on bottom left? |
| 01:09.15 | finql2 | it launch amsn |
| 01:09.27 | finql2 | if i minimize it |
| 01:09.40 | finql2 | it becomes an icon |
| 01:09.43 | finql2 | on botoom left |
| 01:10.15 | genar | by default amsn put an icon always |
| 01:10.29 | finql2 | ah |
| 01:10.45 | finql2 | qot a question |
| 01:10.49 | genar | althought the window are maximized |
| 01:11.07 | finql2 | if i take kwifimanager (kde) |
| 01:11.12 | finql2 | it will work ? |
| 01:11.18 | finql2 | without kde |
| 01:11.20 | genar | yes |
| 01:11.25 | finql2 | ok |
| 01:11.27 | genar | but it load all kde libs |
| 01:11.31 | finql2 | :( |
| 01:11.53 | genar | if you don't mind to use too much kde apps it's not the best solution |
| 01:12.00 | finql2 | i agree |
| 01:12.09 | genar | but you can try and choose |
| 01:12.12 | finql2 | wicd |
| 01:12.20 | finql2 | cant apt-get it |
| 01:12.42 | finql2 | is there another name |
| 01:12.50 | genar | no |
| 01:12.58 | genar | i have in my repositories wicd |
| 01:13.42 | finql2 | hey |
| 01:13.45 | finql2 | i saw on ggl |
| 01:14.03 | finql2 | thats some guys ahd the same problem than me with nm-applet |
| 01:14.09 | genar | there another program called wifi-radar but i think that not supports wpa |
| 01:15.39 | finql2 | well |
| 01:15.44 | finql2 | they said : thae wicd |
| 01:16.49 | genar | wicd should be in repositories from elive |
| 01:18.00 | LinuxNIT-II | what version of elive are you on? |
| 01:18.27 | finql2 | the last one |
| 01:18.34 | LinuxNIT-II | stable or unstable |
| 01:18.37 | finql2 | stable |
| 01:19.38 | LinuxNIT-II | oh ok |
| 01:23.05 | genar | i'm going to bed |
| 01:23.16 | genar | see you later |
| 01:23.24 | genar | good luck finql2 |
| 01:23.36 | finql2 | ty |
| 01:23.42 | finql2 | good night |
| 01:23.50 | genar | I would try to update to developer version |
| 01:24.00 | genar | is very stable in my opinion |
| 01:24.34 | genar | to unstable i would say.. |
| 01:24.39 | genar | bye! |
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| 01:40.12 | finql2 | wicd not in repositories ? |
| 01:42.51 | LinuxNIT-II | apt-get update |
| 01:42.58 | LinuxNIT-II | apt-cache search wicd |
| 01:43.00 | LinuxNIT-II | it should be there |
| 01:43.09 | finql2 | okay |
| 01:43.11 | finql2 | ill try |
| 01:44.03 | LinuxNIT-II | do you just need a program to configure wireless networks? |
| 01:44.35 | finql2 | yes |
| 01:45.30 | finql2 | ive wrote your 2 cmd line but when i tried to qpt-get install it tells me than there is nothing |
| 01:45.56 | LinuxNIT-II | show me the message |
| 01:46.09 | finql2 | its in french |
| 01:46.11 | finql2 | it says |
| 01:46.55 | finql2 | no version of wicd but it exists in the base |
| 01:47.27 | LinuxNIT-II | http://david.braker.com/linux/downloads/wifi-wiz.tar you can try this app |
| 01:48.53 | finql2 | hey thx |
| 01:48.55 | finql2 | it works |
| 01:48.57 | finql2 | =D |
| 01:49.08 | LinuxNIT-II | what works? |
| 01:49.17 | LinuxNIT-II | the one from the link? or installing wicd |
| 01:49.33 | finql2 | the link |
| 01:49.37 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 01:50.07 | LinuxNIT-II | there should also be a wifi-radar app in the repos that should work |
| 01:50.21 | keyra | LinuxNIT-II: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
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| 02:12.01 | elmo40 | oh, sorry... |
| 02:12.04 | elmo40 | MOOO0! |
| 02:12.05 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 02:17.00 | elmo40 | it says that ALT+# also change the rooms. |
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| 07:36.48 | dio444 | Well, I went went through the annoying process of burning the d/l'd "installer-module" file to cd to get it to the machine I'm trying to install on, but it still refuses to install, saying it can't find the module. I've now tried putting it in multiple places and it still can't see it. Where do I need to put it so the installer will see it and let me install? |
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| 08:24.11 | dio444 | One more try before I give up and go with Ubuntu. I need to know where to put the "installer-module" so that I can actually install elive. The installer says I don't have it even though there are multiple copies scattered around the filesystem from my attempts to get it to see the module. |
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| 08:47.41 | dio444 | Allrighty-Then. elive to the trashcan. After nearly 2hours of combing the forums and posting here and not getting any IRC response at all and not finding any answer in the forums, I give up. Ubuntu at least works. A beautiful desktop is no substitute for an installer that works. Goodbye elive people. |
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| 11:03.26 | AlexAnteMachina | goooooood moooooorning everybody! |
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| 11:38.28 | wasynyt | good morning AlexAnteMachina |
| 11:39.16 | AlexAnteMachina | howdy wasynyt |
| 11:40.00 | AlexAnteMachina | holy shit! |
| 11:40.07 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm trying to use gps |
| 11:40.48 | AlexAnteMachina | the gps-mouse seems to work fine. And this model (bu-303) is supported by the kernel. |
| 11:41.19 | AlexAnteMachina | but every navigation-software I tried told "No GPS found" |
| 11:41.25 | AlexAnteMachina | dammit |
| 11:42.36 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, do you have any idea? |
| 11:52.21 | AlexAnteMachina | seems like you do not |
| 11:52.37 | AlexAnteMachina | but meanwhile i asked google. |
| 11:52.47 | AlexAnteMachina | the all-knowing garbage heap |
| 11:53.07 | AlexAnteMachina | and now I think i know how to fix it. |
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| 11:58.57 | finql2 | hey |
| 12:01.40 | finql2 | someone knows wich package must i install to dev in c (i have gcc). The problem is that i got no entry for some functions. (man 2 write by example) |
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| 12:27.20 | wasynyt | sorry AlexAnteMachina i was away a bit :S |
| 12:27.45 | wasynyt | goes again |
| 12:28.20 | AlexAnteMachina | no problem |
| 12:28.45 | AlexAnteMachina | found the problem i think |
| 12:28.53 | AlexAnteMachina | it might be the battery |
| 12:30.11 | AlexAnteMachina | this device works great with a well working battery and it works nice without its battery but with a weak battery it drives its user crazy! |
| 12:32.07 | finql2 | hey |
| 12:32.18 | finql2 | can someone help me a little bit plz ? |
| 12:32.31 | AlexAnteMachina | is eating now |
| 12:32.36 | AlexAnteMachina | later |
| 12:32.40 | finql2 | =o |
| 12:32.41 | finql2 | k |
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| 12:42.55 | AlexAnteMachina | finql2, |
| 12:43.06 | AlexAnteMachina | finished eating now |
| 12:43.23 | AlexAnteMachina | is about to make coffee and tea now |
| 12:43.37 | AlexAnteMachina | finql2, what's your problem? |
| 12:44.42 | AlexAnteMachina | plasma_, bist du da? |
| 12:44.46 | appelhenka | anybody knows how to work with two monitors? |
| 12:45.04 | Issa | helo |
| 12:45.11 | AlexAnteMachina | got only one Monitor. |
| 12:45.18 | Issa | appelhenka, i have use it two screen with elive |
| 12:45.28 | Issa | works sure |
| 12:45.41 | AlexAnteMachina | but it depends on your graphicscard! |
| 12:45.51 | Issa | AlexAnteMachina, sure |
| 12:46.06 | Issa | i have nvidia 8600 gt not young but wokrs |
| 12:46.09 | AlexAnteMachina | with nvidia it's easy |
| 12:46.18 | Issa | easy easye, not all |
| 12:46.28 | Issa | but he is better than this F... ATI |
| 12:46.32 | AlexAnteMachina | there is a gui for setting the driver and 2nd monitor, too |
| 12:46.42 | Issa | The gui sucks |
| 12:46.49 | AlexAnteMachina | gg |
| 12:46.50 | Issa | he is not better than on windows |
| 12:46.50 | appelhenka | issa: speaking german? |
| 12:46.53 | Issa | no |
| 12:46.57 | AlexAnteMachina | ja! |
| 12:46.59 | Issa | french powa |
| 12:47.10 | AlexAnteMachina | appelhenka, was los? |
| 12:47.17 | appelhenka | AlexAnteMachina: du kannst mir aber nich mit den beiden monitoren helfen oder? |
| 12:47.29 | AlexAnteMachina | was für ne graka? |
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| 12:47.56 | appelhenka | 8600 gt |
| 12:48.01 | AlexAnteMachina | nvidia? |
| 12:48.05 | appelhenka | nvidia-treiber sind auch installiert |
| 12:48.06 | appelhenka | jau |
| 12:48.11 | AlexAnteMachina | fein |
| 12:49.55 | appelhenka | ich find nur das menü nich in dem ich das dann einstellen kann |
| 12:50.10 | AlexAnteMachina | wart mal |
| 12:53.21 | AlexAnteMachina | installier mal "nvidia-settings" und "nvidia"xconfig" |
| 12:54.02 | AlexAnteMachina | dann öffne nvidia-settings |
| 12:54.30 | AlexAnteMachina | da sollte sich dann problemlos der 2. Moni konfigurieren lassen. |
| 12:55.01 | AlexAnteMachina | wie kommst du eigentlcih zu dem Namen appelhenka |
| 12:55.03 | AlexAnteMachina | ?? |
| 12:56.39 | appelhenka | ach der is noch aus meinen lan-zeiten |
| 12:56.48 | appelhenka | muss ma eben x neustartet |
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| 12:59.35 | AlexAnteMachina | so, appelhenka |
| 12:59.41 | AlexAnteMachina | wie siehts aus? |
| 13:01.23 | AlexAnteMachina | hab grad gesehen daà du alice nutzt |
| 13:01.55 | AlexAnteMachina | die verschicken die grauslichste hardware an ihre kunden |
| 13:03.05 | AlexAnteMachina | finql2, are you still there? |
| 13:05.18 | appelhenka | AlexAnteMachina: im host steht alice aber eigentlich is es aol |
| 13:05.26 | AlexAnteMachina | aha |
| 13:05.47 | AlexAnteMachina | hatte mal ne nachbarin die bei alice war.... garstig |
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| 13:06.18 | AlexAnteMachina | erst kastrieren die ein wlan-modem und dann stöpseln sie nen wlan-access-point hinten dran. |
| 13:06.21 | appelhenka | muss nur noch suchen wo ich das tastaturlayout auf deutsch stelle oder ich brauch ne qwerty-tastatur |
| 13:06.33 | AlexAnteMachina | mach mal elpanel auf |
| 13:06.53 | AlexAnteMachina | klick auf den User |
| 13:07.12 | AlexAnteMachina | die bein Icons oben links und oben mitte lösen deine probleme |
| 13:08.40 | appelhenka | dank dir |
| 13:09.30 | AlexAnteMachina | gern |
| 13:09.40 | AlexAnteMachina | wie bist du denn auf elive gestoÃen? |
| 13:11.11 | appelhenka | wurde mir in nem anderen linux-chan empfohlen |
| 13:11.21 | AlexAnteMachina | von einem was? |
| 13:11.41 | appelhenka | und da mein intrepid eh grad ein wenig kaputt war hab ich mal elive genommen |
| 13:11.48 | appelhenka | von nem design-freak |
| 13:12.01 | AlexAnteMachina | intrepid? |
| 13:12.07 | AlexAnteMachina | kenn ich jetz nich |
| 13:12.10 | appelhenka | ubuntu 8.10 |
| 13:12.15 | AlexAnteMachina | Ah1 |
| 13:12.16 | AlexAnteMachina | ! |
| 13:12.30 | AlexAnteMachina | ubuntu is mir nich so sympatisch |
| 13:12.45 | AlexAnteMachina | die pfuschen mir zuviel am kernel rum |
| 13:12.52 | appelhenka | ach naja fürn einstieg is es nich verkehr |
| 13:12.56 | appelhenka | *verkehrt |
| 13:13.08 | AlexAnteMachina | Für Einsteiger ist Mandriva DAS Ding! |
| 13:13.47 | AlexAnteMachina | Aber nur wenn man keinen "suport" hat. |
| 13:13.58 | AlexAnteMachina | hab meiner Nachbarin Elive installiert. |
| 13:14.04 | AlexAnteMachina | die hat eigenlich auch null plan. |
| 13:14.17 | AlexAnteMachina | aber sie is nun sehr glücklich drüber |
| 13:17.11 | AlexAnteMachina | appelhenka, welche version nutzt du denn? |
| 13:17.38 | appelhenka | die development |
| 13:17.41 | appelhenka | is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots |
| 13:18.31 | AlexAnteMachina | aha! |
| 13:18.37 | AlexAnteMachina | brav |
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| 13:26.03 | runa1 | hi everybody i want to install elive but i need latex so i was wondering which repositories i could use and if i could use debian repositories |
| 13:26.17 | keyra | runa1: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 13:26.59 | AlexAnteMachina | runa1, latex is already in debians repos |
| 13:27.49 | runa1 | yes it is i thought that in elive there was a reduced version of debian |
| 13:27.58 | AlexAnteMachina | no! |
| 13:28.07 | AlexAnteMachina | it's based on debian. |
| 13:28.17 | AlexAnteMachina | nothing is reduced |
| 13:28.27 | runa1 | ok |
| 13:28.37 | AlexAnteMachina | this is not ubuntu! |
| 13:28.40 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 13:28.47 | runa1 | :) |
| 13:28.55 | Issa | appelhenka, dev not dead, and soon for christmas u can see elive with ecomorph (like compiz) but to elive |
| 13:29.08 | runa1 | is it a testing ? |
| 13:30.05 | Issa | other elive screenshoot from french community http://belive.d0n.be/photogallery.php?album_id=7 |
| 13:30.09 | AlexAnteMachina | runa1, elive or debian? |
| 13:30.31 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive-dev is based on debian-testing. |
| 13:30.39 | AlexAnteMachina | but both are pretty stable |
| 13:30.47 | AlexAnteMachina | I use it everyday |
| 13:37.50 | runa1 | i have this pc at home where i want to install elive but i got only modem connection to internet. Here at university i've got a very fast connection so i was wondering if there is anyway i can download the magior programs i need. |
| 13:38.05 | keyra | runa1: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 13:38.28 | runa1 | :) |
| 13:38.50 | runa1 | yes i'm using the one from the website |
| 13:39.18 | AlexAnteMachina | runa1, you should get the dev-version |
| 13:39.36 | AlexAnteMachina | gem is very nice |
| 13:39.41 | AlexAnteMachina | but outdated |
| 13:40.30 | runa1 | i mean i need latex and the full version of latex is about 700mb so it is not possible that it is included |
| 13:40.33 | AlexAnteMachina | it's mayorproblem is it's bad wifi-support |
| 13:41.06 | AlexAnteMachina | runa1, but the repos include it |
| 13:41.28 | runa1 | yes yes |
| 13:41.28 | AlexAnteMachina | not a single OS will come with it. |
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| 13:41.46 | runa1 | but i was wondering if there was a way to download it before |
| 13:41.47 | AlexAnteMachina | you will ALWAYS have to install it |
| 13:41.53 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 13:41.53 | AlexAnteMachina | no |
| 13:42.02 | AlexAnteMachina | before? |
| 13:42.05 | AlexAnteMachina | before what? |
| 13:42.08 | elmo40 | mornin' :) |
| 13:42.22 | elmo40 | plenty of snow to shovel this morning... |
| 13:42.25 | AlexAnteMachina | is mourning, too |
| 13:42.28 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 13:42.36 | AlexAnteMachina | elmo40, where? |
| 13:42.42 | runa1 | i wantt to download the installation package before going home becouse i dont have a fast internet connection |
| 13:43.03 | elmo40 | Ontario |
| 13:43.05 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
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| 13:43.24 | AlexAnteMachina | elmo40, you'll need a snow-plow |
| 13:44.07 | elmo40 | and a large one at that! |
| 13:44.15 | AlexAnteMachina | runa1, install elive-dev then use synaptic to search and install all additional packages needed! |
| 13:44.37 | AlexAnteMachina | elmo40, you might become the plowman! |
| 13:45.02 | AlexAnteMachina | Mighty Plowman! |
| 13:45.12 | AlexAnteMachina | You'll need a Costume! |
| 13:45.57 | AlexAnteMachina | a pretty gay looking one |
| 13:46.03 | AlexAnteMachina | like spiderman's! |
| 13:50.54 | appelhenka | is back (gone 00:33:13) |
| 13:51.02 | AlexAnteMachina | servus appelhenka |
| 13:51.09 | appelhenka | AlexAnteMachina: gibt es auch nen usb-iso von elive? |
| 13:51.17 | AlexAnteMachina | nö |
| 13:51.34 | appelhenka | schade |
| 13:51.38 | AlexAnteMachina | aber du kannst es mit unetbootin einfach auf usb-stick packen und von dort installieren |
| 13:51.39 | appelhenka | naja muss nochmal weg |
| 13:51.52 | appelhenka | vorstandssitzung am samstag nachmittag... |
| 13:51.53 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
| 13:52.09 | AlexAnteMachina | unetbootin unterstützt viele distros |
| 13:52.12 | AlexAnteMachina | vorstand? |
| 13:52.16 | AlexAnteMachina | wovon? |
| 13:52.21 | AlexAnteMachina | Sportverein? |
| 13:52.23 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: Do not use the default version of unetbootin, use the SPECIAL version of unetbootin for Elive: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) and http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-linux-latest (linux), it is recommended to use the Windows version |
| 13:52.35 | appelhenka | örtlicher feuerwehrverein |
| 13:52.37 | appelhenka | so afk |
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| 14:57.40 | elmo40 | elive, on a usb? NICE! |
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| 16:28.34 | AlexAnteMachina | hey ho! |
| 16:29.05 | plasma_ | hey alex |
| 16:29.09 | plasma_ | now im there |
| 16:29.10 | plasma_ | :) |
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| 16:30.57 | AlexAnteMachina | servus plasma_ |
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| 16:52.22 | finql2 | someone ? |
| 16:55.20 | plasma_ | finql2: someone what? |
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| 19:48.47 | AlexAnteMachina | roxville, ! |
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| 19:49.05 | AlexAnteMachina | are you awake, yet? |
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| 19:53.53 | AlexAnteMachina | waves at roxville |
| 19:54.00 | AlexAnteMachina | Hello?? |
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| 20:13.11 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, ?? |
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| 20:16.59 | Elive_user76_fr | Hello, I had a bad surprise on Elive |
| 20:17.03 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina, ? |
| 20:17.09 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt ! |
| 20:17.10 | Elive_user76_fr | I'm trying to explain you. |
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| 20:17.26 | AlexAnteMachina | do you know how to connect to an usb-device with telnet?# |
| 20:17.32 | wasynyt | no idea |
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| 20:17.36 | AlexAnteMachina | damn |
| 20:17.39 | wasynyt | Elive_user76_fr, what happened |
| 20:17.54 | wasynyt | can you connect usb device with telnet? |
| 20:17.55 | AlexAnteMachina | I know it works, but cant figure out how to connect to it. |
| 20:17.59 | wasynyt | k |
| 20:18.00 | Elive_user76_fr | I insert a CD on the second CD driver (not the master) |
| 20:18.04 | Elive_user76_fr | and I have this message |
| 20:19.03 | Elive_user76_fr | "échec au montage de disque CD-RW" (translation ->mount failed) and the all message is in english (I tape it) |
| 20:19.20 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, I got a gps-mouse but cant use it cause gps-application tells it's got no gps-device connected. |
| 20:19.25 | Elive_user76_fr | method "mount" with signature "ssas" on interface "org.freedesktop.hal.device.volume" doesn't exist |
| 20:19.43 | Elive_user76_fr | just one button to close the pop-up |
| 20:20.10 | Elive_user76_fr | and the volume is not mounted... I can't read this CD |
| 20:20.27 | wasynyt | :S |
| 20:20.34 | wasynyt | Elive_user76_fr, sounds odd |
| 20:20.39 | Elive_user76_fr | odd ? |
| 20:20.42 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina, what is a gps mouse |
| 20:20.54 | Elive_user76_fr | the same CD in the master driver... ok ! |
| 20:20.57 | wasynyt | Elive_user76_fr, sounds like a error that i have not seen |
| 20:21.07 | Elive_user76_fr | sorry for that |
| 20:21.08 | AlexAnteMachina | a tiny gps receiver normally connected by usb |
| 20:21.30 | Elive_user76_fr | I had some pb with brasero with the second driver |
| 20:21.33 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user76_fr, you should report that in the bugs-section. |
| 20:21.43 | Elive_user76_fr | but I use also Ubuntu and I can use it in rewritable mode |
| 20:21.48 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 20:21.52 | Elive_user76_fr | ok |
| 20:21.54 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 20:22.11 | AlexAnteMachina | Thank you very much, Elive_user76_fr !!! |
| 20:22.34 | AlexAnteMachina | Reporting bugs is VERY!! important! |
| 20:23.22 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina, k |
| 20:23.46 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, look: |
| 20:23.47 | AlexAnteMachina | http://images.google.com/images?q=bu-303&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 20:24.19 | wasynyt | looks |
| 20:24.56 | wasynyt | i have similiar device that i use with my bluetooth mobile phone |
| 20:25.19 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
| 20:25.25 | AlexAnteMachina | so you know what I'm talking about. |
| 20:25.26 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 20:26.42 | wasynyt | yeah.. but i have not tried using that on computer.. as it uses some obscure propietary usb mockup connection |
| 20:26.56 | wasynyt | and i dont have bluetooth on my computers |
| 20:27.23 | AlexAnteMachina | no usb-bluetooth-stick? |
| 20:27.38 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
| 20:27.50 | AlexAnteMachina | pukes |
| 20:28.38 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:28.49 | wasynyt | i dont need bluetooth on my machines |
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| 20:50.44 | AlexAnteMachina | welcome back, wasynyt |
| 20:51.04 | wasynyt | thanks |
| 20:51.11 | AlexAnteMachina | I'd like to use my eeepc for navigation |
| 20:51.26 | AlexAnteMachina | that's why I'm trying to use a gps-device. |
| 20:52.20 | Elive_user76_fr | report ok |
| 20:52.25 | wasynyt | hmm... k |
| 20:53.14 | AlexAnteMachina | decided to get a bu-303 cause it seems to be supported by the kerne. |
| 20:53.17 | AlexAnteMachina | +l |
| 20:53.58 | wasynyt | allways a good choice |
| 20:54.07 | AlexAnteMachina | thought so, too. |
| 20:54.13 | AlexAnteMachina | but it wont work. |
| 20:54.20 | AlexAnteMachina | lsusb shows the device |
| 20:54.37 | AlexAnteMachina | but i cant manage to use it |
| 20:55.28 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm looking for a solution whole day long. |
| 20:55.33 | AlexAnteMachina | got tired of it |
| 20:56.58 | wasynyt | sorry but i have no experience on such devices :S |
| 20:57.05 | AlexAnteMachina | me too |
| 20:57.07 | AlexAnteMachina | :( |
| 20:57.31 | AlexAnteMachina | best source ifound was a "wardriving" forum |
| 20:58.37 | AlexAnteMachina | stupid scripd-kiddies talking in bad grammar about windows-crap |
| 20:58.53 | wasynyt | that is allmost impossible to read |
| 20:59.36 | AlexAnteMachina | it is, it is. |
| 20:59.51 | AlexAnteMachina | even in german i can hardly understand them. |
| 20:59.59 | AlexAnteMachina | I doubt they understand themselfes. |
| 21:00.58 | wasynyt | i would say they guess half of the story and make up the rest |
| 21:01.11 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 21:01.28 | AlexAnteMachina | and think they was "far-out" |
| 21:03.16 | AlexAnteMachina | maybe I'll go to a hardwareshop telling them I m going to buy a gps device that works with linux. |
| 21:03.27 | AlexAnteMachina | And take my eeepc with me for testing. |
| 21:03.41 | AlexAnteMachina | As soon as it works they'll get the money! |
| 21:03.42 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 21:04.07 | wasynyt | they will most likely state that they wont support linux and none of theyre products will work with it |
| 21:04.18 | wasynyt | but good plan never the less |
| 21:06.55 | AlexAnteMachina | oh, I dont think they will speak to me like that in a small shop |
| 21:07.58 | wasynyt | so you are not going to some generic electronics store |
| 21:08.13 | wasynyt | i agree that small shops can be a lot better |
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| 21:20.51 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... wasynyt one I went to "MediaMarket" which is a very big electronics-chain |
| 21:21.11 | wasynyt | what happened there ? |
| 21:21.30 | AlexAnteMachina | and asked wether some usb-external HDD was usable with Linux. |
| 21:21.32 | AlexAnteMachina | 'gg' |
| 21:21.48 | AlexAnteMachina | you should have seen all these guys running and getting info. |
| 21:21.51 | wasynyt | has a bad feeling about this story |
| 21:21.56 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:22.05 | wasynyt | so they really had no clue ? |
| 21:22.18 | AlexAnteMachina | finally they told me it was not possible and only supported by windows. |
| 21:22.29 | wasynyt | :P |
| 21:22.32 | AlexAnteMachina | I was just making fun on them. |
| 21:22.44 | wasynyt | i can imagine that |
| 21:22.55 | AlexAnteMachina | noobs. |
| 21:23.12 | wasynyt | well if you have no training on what you are selling ... |
| 21:23.23 | AlexAnteMachina | oh, they had! |
| 21:23.35 | wasynyt | really? |
| 21:23.50 | AlexAnteMachina | but they train more to sell than knowledge in computing. |
| 21:23.53 | AlexAnteMachina | 'gg' |
| 21:24.24 | wasynyt | i would say that it is quite hard to sell anything if you are not quite sure what it does |
| 21:24.31 | wasynyt | but now i have to head to bed |
| 21:24.44 | wasynyt | good night |
| 21:26.18 | AlexAnteMachina | night |
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| 22:02.02 | Issa | someon here? |
| 22:02.37 | Issa | .. |
| 22:02.39 | Issa | ?? |
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| 23:30.59 | appelhenka | youtube seems to kill my opera |
| 23:32.51 | roxville | appelhenka, i believe it's flash...always lagging in linux :/ |
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| 23:34.08 | appelhenka | it worked under ubuntu and now i'm trying iceweasel and it looks like this works better than opera |
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