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09:27.18Elive_user52plse how to update elive
09:27.32keyraElive_user52: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
09:28.13Elive_user52uups
09:28.39Elive_user52so there-s no update package....
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09:30.57Elive_user52i try to install the new one ...but partition was erased....
09:32.02Elive_user52even the installer report that will keep user settings...progs....bookmarks...etc
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11:36.33Issahello
11:36.39Issacan install cairo dock on elive?
11:38.13plasma_for what?
11:38.50Issabecause he is more beatifull than itask
11:39.12plasma_in what kind of way?
11:43.47plasma_hmm
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11:44.26AlexAnteMachinahi al
11:47.19plasma_thx for the nice talk Issa ............
11:47.32AlexAnteMachinahallo plasma_
11:47.37plasma_huhu alex
11:47.46AlexAnteMachina*winkt*
11:48.01plasma_Issa: you should know cairo is very cpu intensive
11:48.15plasma_Issa: and it works only with gnome, kde or xfce
11:48.20Issaplasma_,
11:48.21Issalol
11:48.21Issaok
11:48.28plasma_not funny....
11:49.00Issaoki sure i stay with my itask , my computer not very powerfull
11:49.06Issau right
11:49.44AlexAnteMachinahmm,... Enlightenment wird leider nicht sehr häufig unterstützt.
11:49.57IssaAlexAnteMachina, don't understand the dutch
11:50.32AlexAnteMachinadutch?
11:52.17Issasorry dutch =
11:52.17IssaGerman
11:52.30AlexAnteMachina*gg*
11:52.32AlexAnteMachinak
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12:00.36JuzzHiyas ;)
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13:22.20Spami|Thughop
13:23.07Spami|Thugtoday i've converted someone in my school
13:23.19Spami|Thugknow he uses elive
13:26.49IssaSpami|Thug, lol cool
13:27.12Spami|Thugbah ouai
13:27.24Spami|Thugsurtout que c'est une ecole d'informatique
13:27.38Spami|Thugsi on est plusieur dessus on va pouvoir monter un petit truc
13:27.50Spami|Thuget peut etre heberger les distro sur nos serveur
13:28.03Spami|Thugce serait vraiment bien pour thana
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15:21.58Elive_user19hi
15:22.05Elive_user19hola alguien habla español ??
15:22.19keyraElive_user19: que tal ?
15:22.28Elive_user19hola
15:22.46Elive_user19he instalado elive pero no reconocio mi tarjeta de sonido
15:22.54Elive_user19queria saber si alguien pued ayudarme
15:23.45Elive_user19le doy alsaconf y me dice q no pnp or pci card found
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15:24.41Elive_user19sera q me puedes ayudar ??
15:24.55ThanatermesisElive_user19, has probado de meter el nuevo kernel que te dije ?
15:25.10Elive_user19cual kerner ??
15:25.19Elive_user19primera ves q entro en el x-chat :p
15:25.23Thanatermesisah :P
15:25.25Thanatermesisque ordenador es ?
15:25.37Elive_user19es un Amd
15:25.46Thanatermesisportatil ?
15:25.53Elive_user19nop
15:25.55Thanatermesisque version de Elive usas ?
15:25.56Elive_user19desktop
15:26.00Elive_user19la estable
15:26.09Thanatermesisuf
15:26.12Thanatermesisprueba la version development
15:26.17Thanatermesistiene un kernel mucho mas nuevo
15:26.22Thanatermesises muy posible que te funcione directamente
15:26.33Elive_user19:\
15:26.34Thanatermesiso eso, o compilate tu propio kernel, lo cual no es tan facil
15:27.11Elive_user19ok probare a ver con la version nueva
15:27.23Thanatermesissi, no creo que tengas problemas
15:27.43Elive_user19gracias
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15:41.50Elive_user28hola
15:41.57ma_texhello
15:42.00Elive_user28como puedo instalar el ubuntu en mi compu
15:42.04keyraElive_user28: que tal ?
15:42.23Elive_user28quiero instalar en ubuntu en mi dd y no puedo
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15:43.05Elive_user28alquien que me pueda ayudar porfavor
15:43.18ma_texsombodywindow 1
15:43.55ma_texsorry
15:46.01ma_texchanel
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17:28.47DaRtH_VaDeRkeyra my love =*******************
17:37.32Spami|ThugThanatermesis, http://www.gdium.com/fr/group/58/home
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17:38.01JmillanHola
17:38.24Jmillanthanametersis estas??
17:38.36Jmillansoy el del sonido...
17:39.02Jmillanesatoy descargando la version de prueba con el kernel mas reciente pero mienstras queria ver si puedo complilar el Kerner
17:39.08Jmillan=)
17:39.24Jmillanqueria saber si me podias ayudar a conseguir info
17:41.10Spami|Thughum
17:43.50Thanatermesisolph lol
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17:44.03Jmillan?
17:44.24Jmillancual podria usar ??
17:44.38DaRtH_VaDeRThanatermesis, what do you think about ext4 ?
17:44.57ThanatermesisDaRtH_VaDeR, never tried it :)
17:45.11DaRtH_VaDeR=/
17:45.12Thanatermesisi use reiserfs for a FAST system and JFS for my data storage (secure)
17:45.16DaRtH_VaDeRthe new kernel has it
17:45.33Thanatermesiswell, new = new bugs to discover
17:45.34DaRtH_VaDeRoh, i see
17:46.06DaRtH_VaDeRyep
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17:46.36Jmillanalguien habla español
17:46.37Jmillan?
17:46.42DaRtH_VaDeRse
17:46.50DaRtH_VaDeRque necesitas joven Jmillan
17:47.00Spami|Thugsi
17:47.02Spami|Thugclaro
17:47.06Jmillanes q instale la version de elive y no funsiona el sonido
17:47.20Jmillanme sugirieron usar una version de prueba
17:47.40Jmillanq tre el kernel mas actualizado y puede reconocer mi tarjeta de sonido
17:47.45Jmillano compilarme el kerner
17:47.53Jmillantengo la version 2.6.18
17:48.17Jmillany queria saber si tendran a la mano ayudar para compilar el kernel y cual puedo usar
17:50.58Spami|Thugnormalmente es possible
17:51.09ThanatermesisJmillan, primero prueba la version development a ver si te funciona el sonido para estar seguro
17:51.22Jmillanla estoy descargando
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17:52.40Elive_user57_enjlkj
17:52.44Spami|ThugThanatermesis, i will try to talk about elive to my director
17:53.00Spami|Thugmy school might support elive
17:53.02ThanatermesisElive_user57_en, yes, we read you :)
17:53.12ThanatermesisSpami|Thug, good! :)
17:53.39Spami|Thugwe only work on *BSD system
17:53.51Thanatermesise17 is bsd :)
17:53.58Spami|Thugi know
17:54.10Spami|Thugwww.epitech.net for the school
17:54.11plasma_Spami|Thug: keep the bsd :)
17:54.15Elive_user57_enI`m live :-)   interesant system Sanks....
17:54.34DaRtH_VaDeRThanatermesis, en este momento seria descabellado usar elive con repos de sid ? xD
17:55.08ThanatermesisDaRtH_VaDeR, si :P
17:55.20ThanatermesisDaRtH_VaDeR, change Elive repos and you have an broken Elive :)
17:55.25Spami|ThugFor the begining they may beonly only host the iso or something like that
17:55.27DaRtH_VaDeRdamn xD
17:55.38DaRtH_VaDeRso i will have to compile for new packages xD
17:55.49DaRtH_VaDeRwell, read you later ppl, lunch time
17:55.55DaRtH_VaDeRkeyra i love you =**************
17:56.05ThanatermesisSpami|Thug, i have just see before a very OLD note about a mirror or something from you
17:56.09keyraDaRtH_VaDeR: really ? 8)
17:56.18Spami|ThugThanatermesis, yes
17:56.26Spami|Thugmy server is crashed
17:56.30Thanatermesisbut i tried it and not works anymore lol
17:57.32Spami|Thugit's on my wallpaper: "take some times for the miror"
17:57.46keyraSpami|Thug: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
17:58.37Thanatermesislol
17:58.40Spami|Thugmy f*cking serveur dont receive my mail
17:58.53Spami|Thugcan send email but not receive
17:58.59Spami|Thugand i don't understand why
17:59.07Spami|Thugthat suck a lot
17:59.33plasma_check your services and logs then :)
17:59.53felixplasma_: you have a good point
18:00.21plasma_yeah :P
18:00.38Spami|Thugplasma_, it's done
18:00.57felixSpami|Thug: what does the log say?
18:01.13Spami|Thuglot of bullshit
18:01.21IssaSpami|Thug, tu fais des étude t'est en quoi?
18:01.37felixamazing... sometimes bullshit is useful
18:01.37Spami|ThugIssa, epitech.net
18:01.44felixdon't you think?
18:01.57Issahumm c'est privé sa
18:02.10Spami|Thugthe log say that I've a conflict with postfix and my vhcs fork
18:02.21Spami|ThugIssa, oui
18:02.30Issacombien l'annéeN?
18:02.40Spami|Thugmais c'est sur l'avenir qu'il faut parier par sur cinq ans
18:02.51Spami|Thugde 6000 euro a 7500
18:03.06felixSpami|Thug: postfix is the MTA... then maybe it's not bullshit :)
18:03.10Issat sur bx?
18:03.28Spami|Thugsomeone can council me a good web panel admin ?
18:03.32Spami|ThugIssa, bx ?
18:03.34Spami|Thugc'est quoi ?
18:03.54Issat'est dans quelle ville, bx pour bordeaux mais tu dois pas y etre si tu conévationnais pas l'abr
18:04.04Issadésoler un bug de clavier
18:04.29Spami|Thugi've tried vhcs(not secure) vhcs fork(don't work), dtc(good but hard)
18:04.43Spami|Thugnon, je suis sur lyon
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18:05.58Spami|Thugwhat about GNU panel ?
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18:09.02Spami|ThugThanatermesis, tonight I install GNUpanel, if it's ok i send you a mail
18:09.06Spami|Thugwith all for the miror
18:09.34Spami|Thugyou need, an account on the seveur ? rsync ?
18:09.39Spami|Thugwath else ?
18:11.38Thanatermesisssh and rsync installed, a web link (http... ) that users access to the mirror
18:11.42Thanatermesisnothing more :)
18:11.48Spami|Thugok
18:11.54Spami|Thugtonight sure !
18:12.01Thanatermesis:)
18:12.12Spami|ThugOn the road :)
18:12.22Jmillanthanatermesis estas buscando servidor para colgar el elive??
18:12.35ThanatermesisJmillan, bueno, siempre van bien nuevos mirrors :)
18:12.40Spami|Thugwell, me voy  comer
18:12.45Thanatermesisservidor no, mirrors con un buen bandwith/speed
18:12.46Spami|Thug+a
18:12.50Thanatermesisa+ Spami|Thug
18:12.53plasma_if i setup mirror(s) too its possible to make elive for free in the 2.0?
18:12.56Jmillanaaa si quieres te puedo habilitar una cuenta pàra q cuelges
18:13.16Jmillanesta en argentina
18:13.21Jmillancon gnupanel.
18:13.40Thanatermesisplasma_, that "free" is going to work in other way for the next versions
18:13.44Thanatermesisso, no needed to pay for download
18:13.53Thanatermesisfree download, free live mode, only pay for install
18:14.03plasma_hmm
18:14.10plasma_thats not better
18:14.11plasma_:)
18:14.24ThanatermesisJmillan, si tiene buena velocidad y buena cuota (limite mensual) ok :)
18:14.29Thanatermesisplasma_, of course is
18:14.42Thanatermesisplasma_, a lot of ppl can't try Elive just because the paying stuff
18:14.47Thanatermesisand another more bad thing...
18:14.54Thanatermesisimaginate that somebody pays, and his hardware is not supported
18:15.03Thanatermesishe knows that AFTER to pay
18:15.04plasma_i dont think so, since all peoples i talked to laughed about your model, and they still will and keep away from using elive
18:15.22Thanatermesiswell, what else i can do then ?
18:15.28Thanatermesisits the model :) that's all
18:15.48Jmillancuanto crees q consuma tu cuenta la cuota limite mensual.
18:16.16Jmillanmi tengo de tranferencia 400 GB
18:16.23plasma_make it free and the payment voluntary
18:16.27plasma_thats the only way
18:16.37Thanatermesisikevin, ping ?
18:16.49Thanatermesisplasma_, that not works, i have tried before... on that way, nobody pays
18:17.05ikevinpong
18:17.09Thanatermesisis not a problem that nobody want's to pay... but a problem of nobody "worries" and doesn't has time to lost 1 miniute clicking in the process payment
18:17.27Thanatermesisikevin, for Jmillan, how much the mirror takes aproximately in GB / month ?
18:17.49ikevini check
18:18.18Jmillantengo 400 gb mensuales en tranferencia
18:18.26plasma_well, it works at many other distros, maybe you should reconsider your target audience then :)
18:18.29ikevin1298.87gb for this mounth
18:18.29Thanatermesisplasma_, the price is low for anybody, so that this is not a problem too... the only problem is for who CAN'T really possible to pay (no visa, no money, poor country, etc), but for that, i have other solutions, like invitations codes or write a review, etc
18:19.07Thanatermesisplasma_, other distro's doesnt live from his distro... even ubuntu doesn't know how to make money lol
18:19.13plasma_yeah i know and thats fair, but it still frightens the poeple
18:19.31plasma_lol ubuntu is no compare since its run by a billionair
18:19.33plasma_:)
18:19.41plasma_and he pays conencial
18:21.29plasma_i really can understand your point, but maybe you just should make some nice packages for cds to send over and pay for, and some merchandising things
18:21.45Thanatermesis<plasma_> lol ubuntu is no compare since its run by a billionair
18:21.53ThanatermesisTHAT'S the differnece :)
18:21.53plasma_if elive becomes bigger then this will pay you enough i think
18:22.03Thanatermesisso, i need to use this model
18:22.12Thanatermesismaybe you can convince canonical to pay Elive develpment ;)
18:22.18plasma_lol
18:22.42Thanatermesis<plasma_> i really can understand your point, but maybe you just should make some nice packages for cds to send over and pay for, and some merchandising things
18:22.44Thanatermesisi have tried this
18:22.45ikevinThanatermesis, your not billionnair? :(
18:22.47Thanatermesiswith bonus disks
18:23.00Thanatermesisthere's only 1-2 ppl that buy bonus disks per month
18:23.01Thanatermesisnot much
18:23.11Thanatermesisikevin, not yet! not yet!
18:23.17plasma_well yeah, because you are still unknown
18:23.24plasma_or elive at least
18:23.24ikevin^^'
18:23.26Spami|ThugThanatermesis, you "just" need to meet someone who is rich
18:23.42plasma_if you expand and we make some promotion it will be enough for sure
18:24.05ikevinSpami|Thug, i often meet rich people, so they never give me money :(
18:24.16Thanatermesisplasma_, im trying to be more known, but im not a marketing expert... MAYBE and only MAYBE for new year :)
18:24.35ThanatermesisSpami|Thug, having sex with a old rich woman ?
18:24.36Spami|Thugikevin, are you a woman ?
18:24.43Spami|ThugSpami|Thug, yes !
18:24.47Spami|Thugyes
18:24.50Spami|Thugho shit
18:25.05plasma_rhich peoples are mostly stingy
18:25.13DaRtH_VaDeRThanatermesis, you have to get marry with oprah xD
18:25.17Thanatermesisthinks that a lot of ppl try this
18:25.21Spami|ThugThanatermesis, yes! That the system.
18:25.35ikevinSpami|Thug, nop, a men
18:25.39plasma_Thanatermesis: i could support you there, i know lots of peoples and hackers and firms
18:25.48Spami|Thugikevin, that's the problem
18:26.02ikevinlol, yes maybe ^^'
18:26.16Spami|ThugThanatermesis, in paris you can go to "la coupole"
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18:26.28Spami|Thugmeet rich old women and have sex
18:26.36DaRtH_VaDeRThanatermesis,  do you know some good place for make a blog ? xD
18:26.38ikevinlol
18:26.45DaRtH_VaDeR=0
18:26.47Spami|Thuga bad moment for a good wallet
18:26.59DaRtH_VaDeRi dont want to go now to paris hehe
18:27.32ThanatermesisDaRtH_VaDeR, no... im not much blog fanatic, i have made my own page long time ago and lost it because not maintaining
18:27.54DaRtH_VaDeRoh , i see :S
18:29.38Spami|ThugThanatermesis, BP OVH/Internet :   100 Mbps
18:29.39Spami|ThugBP Internet/OVH :   100 Mbps
18:29.39Spami|ThugTrafic :   illimité
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18:30.02Spami|Thugi'm installing again my second server with debian etch
18:30.16keyraSpami|Thug: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
18:31.01Thanatermesiswell, time to close xchat to do other things... brb
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18:40.35Spami|Thugikevin, ping
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18:48.41ikevinSpami|Thug, pong
18:49.09Spami|Thugikevin, do you use something like sandbox for your mirror ?
18:49.29ikevinnop
18:49.40ikevinonly apache
18:51.17Spami|Thugikevin, you don't restrict the access for some folder only ?
18:51.35ikevinnop
18:51.45Spami|Thugok
18:52.09Spami|Thugjust create a user for thana
18:52.10Spami|Thug?
18:52.16Spami|Thug(ssh user)
18:52.35ikevinsystem user and an apache2 vhost
18:53.08Spami|Thugok
18:53.11Spami|Thugthinks
18:53.15Spami|Thugthanks
18:53.27ikevinthat allow him ftp, ssh, scp, rsync, ...
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18:55.43ikevinyou would to offer a mirror to elive?
18:59.14Spami|Thugyes
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19:01.14IssaThana not here
19:01.17Issabut great
19:01.20Issaikevin,
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19:04.11ikevinIssa, ?
19:04.21ikevinSpami|Thug, k
19:04.30ikevinyou are hosted by ovh?
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19:04.36Spami|Thugyes
19:05.05ikevinbe warn with there SLA restriction
19:05.16ikevinthey have strange rules
19:05.21Spami|Thugok
19:05.36Spami|Thugi will talk with oled
19:05.40Spami|Thug8oles
19:05.44Spami|Thug*oles
19:05.56ikevinyou can find a topic on the forum about that
19:06.05Spami|Thugok
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19:08.00jmillanHola
19:08.03jmillande nuevo
19:08.09ikevinhi jmillan
19:08.16jmillanhago lspci y me detecta ta tarjeta
19:08.58ikevinkeyra es fr  hago lspci y me detecta ta tarjeta
19:09.38ikevin:(
19:09.46jmillan00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
19:10.27jmillanpero al hacer alsaconf y tratar de configurarla no
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21:33.17Saguisouaqui alguien habla español :S
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23:21.34elmo40evening
23:21.40elmo40moo O_o
23:21.52elmo40i get an error on the installer.
23:22.35elmo40"looks like there is a problem with your clock..."
23:22.55elmo40i dont lose the date on shutdown.
23:23.06elmo40i even changed the battery, as it recommended... still pops up!
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23:31.44elmo40any ideas?
23:32.12eshepelmo40, try going to the console and setting the dat
23:32.18eshepe
23:33.49elmo40when i type 'date' it shows the proper time
23:33.54elmo40i dont know what it is asking
23:34.21eshepwhat about the timezone
23:34.36elmo40it continues with "Your actual date is '2008-12-29'. My time zone is -5GMT, what is wrong?
23:34.49elmo40everything is correct.
23:35.05elmo40battery is good. time is proper. how do i use the 'NST' server?
23:35.35elmo40*ntp ;)
23:35.41eshepyup
23:39.26elmo40when i try 'ntpdate' it give me this:
23:39.33elmo40ntpdate -v 0.debian.pool.ntp.org
23:39.33elmo4029 Dec 18:38:51 ntpdate[14714]: ntpdate 4.2.4p4@1.1520-o Wed Jul 16 12:11:42 UTC 2008 (1)
23:39.36elmo4029 Dec 18:38:51 ntpdate[14714]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
23:39.42elmo40July?
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23:47.03eshepthats odd, in use?
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23:50.18eshepsorry dude i gotta run
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