| 00:00.34 | Judi | yes that's rigth |
| 00:00.45 | electroweak | if the owner doesn't use it for a while registration get cancelled |
| 00:02.03 | Judi | let's see: |
| 00:02.08 | Judi | apt seen Judi |
| 00:02.10 | apt | judi is currently on #elive (20m 5s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: 'apt seen Judi'. |
| 00:02.26 | Judi | damn |
| 00:02.30 | Judi | its me |
| 00:02.39 | Judi | and what with the other??? |
| 00:02.46 | Judi | apt seen Judi_ |
| 00:02.47 | apt | Judi: i haven't seen 'judi_' |
| 00:03.45 | Judi | no way, Judi is registered |
| 00:03.58 | Judi | a new nick |
| 00:04.48 | *** join/#elive |ast| (n=lilo78@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 00:04.51 | |ast| | buenas |
| 00:05.01 | Judi | hola ast |
| 00:05.05 | Judi | oye de dónde eres? |
| 00:05.06 | keyra | |ast|: nas nas |
| 00:05.20 | keyra | Judi: que tal ? |
| 00:06.16 | electroweak | |ast|, hi |
| 00:06.37 | |ast| | Hola electroweak |
| 00:06.44 | |ast| | Judi: .ar |
| 00:11.48 | Judico | ok, that's my new nick |
| 00:12.40 | |ast| | ok |
| 00:38.40 | *** join/#elive Elive_user77_it (n=Elive_us@217.203.162.126) |
| 00:39.20 | Elive_user77_it | i speech serbin |
| 00:44.18 | Judico | serbin? |
| 00:47.12 | Elive_user77_it | yes |
| 00:47.19 | Elive_user77_it | serbian |
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| 00:48.56 | Judico | well i only speak spanish and english |
| 00:50.03 | Elive_user77_it | where do u cme from? |
| 00:50.43 | Judico | colombia |
| 00:51.02 | Elive_user77_it | como estas? |
| 00:51.17 | Judico | jaj hola, bien bien |
| 00:51.32 | keyra | Judico: que tal ? |
| 00:51.34 | Judico | oye qué idioma es ese "serbian?" |
| 00:52.01 | Judico | o en qué parte queda eso? estoy reperdido |
| 00:52.19 | Elive_user77_it | fromSerbia ex jugoslavia |
| 00:52.25 | Elive_user77_it | or yugoslavia |
| 00:53.17 | Elive_user77_it | perdona me jo so poco espanol |
| 00:53.20 | Judico | ah ya entiendo, pero sà hablas español bien? |
| 00:53.23 | Judico | ah ya entiendo |
| 00:53.28 | Elive_user77_it | no |
| 00:53.53 | Judico | no hay problema, por lo menos te capto la idea |
| 00:54.17 | Elive_user77_it | jo parlo bien italiano |
| 00:54.25 | Elive_user77_it | porche jo vivo en italia |
| 00:55.09 | Judico | bueno italiano sà no sé, pero ya veo de dónde sabes algo de español, son un poco parecidos el italiano y el español |
| 00:55.46 | Elive_user77_it | paresido similar'?' |
| 00:57.23 | Judico | si |
| 00:57.30 | Judico | parecido = similar |
| 00:58.37 | Elive_user77_it | quanti ans tengo |
| 00:58.40 | Elive_user77_it | anos |
| 00:58.53 | Elive_user77_it | you age |
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| 01:00.04 | Judico | ese dato te lo quedo debiendo |
| 01:00.13 | Judico | para darte una idea soy universitario |
| 01:00.24 | Judico | pero prefiero no hablar mucho de mà |
| 01:00.39 | Elive_user77_it | ok |
| 01:00.53 | Elive_user77_it | compredido |
| 01:00.59 | Judico | no hay problema |
| 01:01.23 | Judico | si necesitas ayuda con algo me avisas |
| 01:02.17 | Elive_user77_it | algo??? |
| 01:05.16 | Judico | algo = cualquier cosa |
| 01:05.41 | Judico | si necesitas ayuda acerca de elive |
| 01:09.55 | Elive_user77_it | no jo necesito ayudo por Mint 6 |
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| 01:12.12 | Judico | qué problema tienes? |
| 01:13.51 | Elive_user77_it | i installed it on 3th sata |
| 01:14.04 | Elive_user77_it | and everything is ok |
| 01:14.45 | Elive_user77_it | but wheni pun on 160G hdd on sata1 with windosw itgoes in crash |
| 01:15.01 | electroweak | good night all |
| 01:15.03 | Elive_user77_it | busybox or similar |
| 01:15.27 | Judico | cuando instalaste mint, también le instalaste el grub? |
| 01:15.27 | Elive_user77_it | i installed many distros but is the first time i see somthing like this |
| 01:16.08 | Elive_user77_it | yes because it start if i put only 1 hdd |
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| 01:16.17 | Elive_user77_it | without other 3 i have |
| 01:16.51 | Judico | pero actualizaste el grub cuando pusiste el otro hdd |
| 01:17.18 | Elive_user77_it | how, mint doesnt starts!!!! |
| 01:17.22 | Elive_user77_it | ''?? |
| 01:18.05 | Judico | pero el windows si arranca normal? |
| 01:18.15 | Elive_user77_it | i first installed mint with only 80g hdd on sata3 |
| 01:18.15 | Judico | windows starts? |
| 01:18.20 | Elive_user77_it | si |
| 01:18.21 | Judico | ok |
| 01:18.27 | Judico | ah ya se |
| 01:18.36 | Judico | tienes que hacer esto |
| 01:18.41 | Elive_user77_it | i startit with f8 boot menu |
| 01:18.48 | Elive_user77_it | from bios |
| 01:18.51 | Judico | quita el Sata1, osea el de windows |
| 01:18.59 | Elive_user77_it | so i don't need no boot mnager |
| 01:19.14 | Elive_user77_it | win is on sata1 |
| 01:19.21 | Elive_user77_it | sata 2 isdvd rw |
| 01:19.55 | Judico | ok, entonces quita el sata1, dejas el sata3 y booteas por linux mint |
| 01:20.09 | Judico | desde el mint, debes editar el menu del grub, sabes cómo? |
| 01:20.18 | Judico | para que le agregues la entrada del windows |
| 01:20.55 | Elive_user77_it | can you inenglish pleas |
| 01:21.23 | Elive_user77_it | pc goes with mint only if i put of other hdd |
| 01:22.56 | Judico | that's what i'm saying, leave only sata3 so you can boot mint, then when you are into linux mint, you can edit de menu.lst file of the grub to put the Windows option in the grub menu |
| 01:23.59 | Elive_user77_it | wherei find menu.lst |
| 01:24.16 | Judico | it's in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 01:24.30 | Elive_user77_it | i nerev hadthis problem withother distro |
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| 01:24.35 | Elive_user77_it | i just install |
| 01:24.50 | Elive_user77_it | poweroff put on all my hdds an boot |
| 01:25.33 | Judico | well i didn't know too |
| 01:25.47 | Elive_user77_it | and what i put in for sata1 and ide 1 |
| 01:28.11 | Judico | wait |
| 01:28.30 | Elive_user77_it | i'm here |
| 01:28.41 | Elive_user77_it | with a hot chokolade |
| 01:29.16 | Elive_user77_it | we hace 8 celsius here |
| 01:29.19 | Elive_user77_it | have |
| 01:29.27 | Judico | jaja uu, very cold!!! |
| 01:29.34 | Judico | look: |
| 01:29.47 | Judico | title Microsoft Windows XP Professional |
| 01:29.52 | Judico | root (hd0,0) |
| 01:30.00 | Judico | savedefault |
| 01:30.05 | Judico | makeactive |
| 01:30.10 | Judico | chainloader +1 |
| 01:30.28 | Judico | that 5 lines, at the end of the menu.lst |
| 01:30.35 | Judico | let me see other thing |
| 01:32.09 | Elive_user77_it | but if there i saallready hd0,0 ?? |
| 01:32.14 | Judico | aditionaly, you can put this 2 lines before the 5 |
| 01:32.23 | Judico | title Other operating systems:root |
| 01:32.32 | Judico | title Other operating systems: |
| 01:32.34 | Judico | root |
| 01:33.18 | Judico | well, you said that is sata1, maybe it will be hd0,0, but for sure: |
| 01:33.26 | Judico | connect all your hdd |
| 01:33.53 | Judico | configure the setup to boot from yor sata3 soo at least you can run mint |
| 01:34.23 | Elive_user77_it | yes but i need files on win hdd :-( |
| 01:34.38 | Judico | in mint run gparted and there you can verify whats de device reference to your sata1 |
| 01:34.41 | Elive_user77_it | this is the hugestproblem |
| 01:34.47 | Elive_user77_it | problema groso |
| 01:35.06 | Judico | yes i understand |
| 01:35.09 | Elive_user77_it | i can't |
| 01:35.15 | Judico | why? |
| 01:35.28 | Judico | don't boot mint with all the hdd connected? |
| 01:35.30 | Elive_user77_it | because i firt have to start it with win hdd on |
| 01:36.09 | Elive_user77_it | first |
| 01:36.36 | Elive_user77_it | so at any case i'lltry to modify the menu.lst file as yousay |
| 01:36.36 | Judico | no, i mean, first run in mint so you can fix the problem, after do that, you will be able to boot mint or windows from the grub menu |
| 01:36.51 | keyra | Judico: If you have boot problems better to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf |
| 01:36.53 | Elive_user77_it | ok |
| 01:36.59 | Elive_user77_it | that is obvious |
| 01:37.05 | Elive_user77_it | ovvio |
| 01:37.42 | Elive_user77_it | no i am that with problems 111 :-) |
| 01:38.23 | Elive_user77_it | ok |
| 01:38.25 | Elive_user77_it | this is ok |
| 01:38.29 | Elive_user77_it | thanks |
| 01:38.33 | Judico | sorry |
| 01:38.39 | Elive_user77_it | so about elive |
| 01:38.56 | Elive_user77_it | how can i install picasa3 |
| 01:39.06 | Judico | i feel bad for can't help you |
| 01:39.22 | Elive_user77_it | i tried from googl erepo |
| 01:39.33 | Elive_user77_it | no problem |
| 01:39.50 | Elive_user77_it | i'lltry later to fix as you suggested |
| 01:40.12 | Judico | jaja picasa, humm, about that i only can say that if you can get the sources of picasa3, it will be easy to compile it because |
| 01:40.28 | Elive_user77_it | i have deb |
| 01:40.38 | Judico | when you run ./configure, it will show you wich dependencies are missing |
| 01:40.44 | Elive_user77_it | but the installation doesn't go |
| 01:41.03 | Judico | that .deb is for ubuntu? or debian? |
| 01:41.14 | Elive_user77_it | debin |
| 01:41.18 | Elive_user77_it | debian |
| 01:41.25 | Judico | for what version of debian? |
| 01:41.44 | Judico | lenny? |
| 01:41.50 | Judico | or earlier? |
| 01:42.04 | Elive_user77_it | http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html#picasa30 |
| 01:43.53 | Judico | ok |
| 01:44.20 | Judico | it throws some error message when you try to install? |
| 01:44.37 | Judico | i mean waht error it report |
| 01:46.06 | Elive_user77_it | no error |
| 01:46.12 | Elive_user77_it | nothing happens |
| 01:46.18 | Elive_user77_it | thisis the error |
| 01:47.52 | Judico | what if try to run picasa from a terminal |
| 01:48.55 | Elive_user77_it | i can't even install it |
| 01:49.12 | Elive_user77_it | i'm tring now to download the picasa2 |
| 01:49.23 | Elive_user77_it | and intallit from terminal |
| 01:49.42 | Elive_user77_it | what distro do you use |
| 01:51.35 | Judico | 1.9.23 |
| 01:51.38 | Judico | unstable |
| 01:51.57 | Elive_user77_it | elive?? |
| 01:52.01 | Elive_user77_it | i done |
| 01:52.01 | Judico | yes |
| 01:52.10 | Elive_user77_it | picasa is ok |
| 01:52.18 | Judico | picasa 2? |
| 01:52.30 | Elive_user77_it | si |
| 01:52.45 | Elive_user77_it | ihave some problem with gdebi package installer |
| 01:52.46 | Judico | jaja ok |
| 01:52.58 | Elive_user77_it | it don't work as it need |
| 01:53.02 | Judico | maybe a problem with the other deb |
| 01:53.15 | Elive_user77_it | how can i know witch is my elive??? |
| 01:55.26 | Judico | well really i don't know, is just that i installed the iso last week, and the iso has that version |
| 01:55.27 | Elive_user77_it | how i uninstall programs from terminal'?? |
| 01:55.46 | Judico | sudo apt-get remove <the progrsm> |
| 01:55.50 | Elive_user77_it | ok cd says 1.9.13 |
| 01:55.50 | Judico | program |
| 01:55.58 | Elive_user77_it | i'm so stupid |
| 01:56.08 | Judico | me too don't worry |
| 01:59.02 | Elive_user77_it | iuse linux about 4-5 years but i'm still a beginner |
| 01:59.28 | Elive_user77_it | my mestake is that i never renounced to windows |
| 01:59.42 | keyra | Elive_user77_it: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 02:00.01 | Elive_user77_it | i have a tons of games that i can't play so i use win |
| 02:00.15 | Elive_user77_it | even for dreamweaver |
| 02:00.58 | Judico | jajja keyra |
| 02:01.28 | Judico | well i will say you something about games: |
| 02:01.32 | Judico | if you want |
| 02:02.01 | Elive_user77_it | tell it |
| 02:02.05 | Elive_user77_it | speek |
| 02:02.20 | Judico | you can install only linux (for exmaple elive), and into linux, install virtualbox, look i say you that for 2 reasons: |
| 02:02.41 | Judico | 1- now, virtualbox have support for 3d aceleration |
| 02:03.39 | Judico | 2- i've try that method and in my case (laptop compaq c766la), the performance is at least the same |
| 02:04.04 | Elive_user77_it | and i can rut the witcher, crysis, never winter, dirt |
| 02:04.17 | Judico | the fps of the games i play in this way are just fine |
| 02:05.11 | Elive_user77_it | is there a way to connect huawei e220 to elive??? |
| 02:05.18 | Judico | you can try without delete windows, and after that if you like, you can renounce to windows |
| 02:05.26 | Elive_user77_it | it works on fedora 10 andmint 6 |
| 02:05.32 | Judico | really i don't have that answer |
| 02:05.47 | Elive_user77_it | i think evnen onsuse 11.1 my preffered |
| 02:07.12 | Elive_user77_it | okthnx |
| 02:07.29 | Elive_user77_it | do you like Cypress Hil??? |
| 02:08.51 | Elive_user77_it | I HAVE PICASA 3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 |
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| 03:32.48 | Elive_user78 | hola |
| 03:33.03 | keyra | Elive_user78: que tal ? |
| 03:33.40 | Elive_user78 | muy bien... creo, mi primera vez usando otro sistema operativo! |
| 03:34.22 | Judico | jaja hola |
| 03:34.27 | Judico | te comento algo |
| 03:34.44 | Elive_user78 | me siento muy perdido, calculo que esto es normal al princio! |
| 03:34.50 | Judico | keyra es una especie de IA del servidor jaja, especÃficamente de este canal |
| 03:34.57 | Judico | sà es normal |
| 03:35.17 | Judico | yo llevo unas cuantas horas aquà soy tan primÃparo como tú jeje |
| 03:35.48 | Judico | usando elive no? |
| 03:35.58 | Judico | digo estas usasndo elive no?= |
| 03:36.00 | Elive_user78 | intentado usar elive! |
| 03:36.09 | Judico | jaja te ha dado duro algo en especial? |
| 03:36.40 | Elive_user78 | si, el fin de semana he bajado 5 versiones diferentes de linux y recién pude probar esta |
| 03:37.01 | Elive_user78 | me cansé de Windows en todas sus versiones |
| 03:37.34 | Judico | jajaj bienvenido al club, tu sentimiento es casi una constante por estos lados jaja |
| 03:37.59 | Elive_user78 | desde la instalación fue difÃcil, el resto fue milagro! |
| 03:38.21 | Judico | te digo algo, la verdad yo vengo usando linux desde hace un par de años, y hace poco encontré este SO, me ha gustado mucho, y a pesar que esta es una versión todavÃa en desarrollo, "inestable", me ha funcionado muy muy bien |
| 03:38.24 | Elive_user78 | me imagino que es un "sentimiento" normal |
| 03:38.37 | Judico | sÃ, el cansancio por windows |
| 03:39.10 | Elive_user78 | sin embargo en la página web de Elive decÃa que es una versión estable... al menos ahora corre en mi ordenador |
| 03:39.36 | Judico | pera tú cuál versión bajaste? |
| 03:39.42 | Judico | te dieron código? |
| 03:39.49 | Elive_user78 | me parece increÃble poder utilizar un SO sin tenerlo que instalar en el disco rÃgido! |
| 03:39.56 | Judico | es que yo no pude conseguir código entonces baje la versión de desarrollo |
| 03:40.05 | Judico | sà eso es genial |
| 03:40.18 | Elive_user78 | pagué por Paypol U$s 5 y la bajé |
| 03:41.35 | Judico | jaja bien bien, ya entiendo, tu bajaste la versión 1, esa sà es estable, yo no pude probarla porque ni cuenta en paypal tengo |
| 03:41.46 | Judico | la versión en desarrollo que tengo instalada ahora mismo |
| 03:41.50 | Judico | es la 1.9.23 |
| 03:42.08 | Judico | y en realidad no sabrÃa decirte la diferencia, como te digo no probé la que tú tienes |
| 03:42.59 | Elive_user78 | no puedo decirte que versión tengo porque no se dónde checarlo |
| 03:43.58 | Judico | bueno creo que si era la 1 pero de todas formas la que tú tienes sà es estable no te preocupes por eso |
| 03:44.04 | Judico | si no no te hubieran hecho pagar |
| 03:44.53 | Elive_user78 | eso creo! |
| 03:45.19 | Judico | sà créeme |
| 03:45.23 | Judico | hey de dónde eres? |
| 03:45.56 | Elive_user78 | Argentina |
| 03:46.20 | Judico | jaja ya van dos de argentina |
| 03:46.20 | Elive_user78 | vos? |
| 03:46.20 | Judico | de colombia |
| 03:46.37 | Judico | acabas de instalar elive? |
| 03:47.09 | Elive_user78 | si, LiveCd, no probé de instalarla en el disco rÃgido aún |
| 03:47.18 | Judico | ah ya veo |
| 03:47.31 | Judico | corre mucho más rápido desde el disco duro |
| 03:48.33 | Judico | pero bueno, ya he estado conectado un largo rato, y tengo sueño, estaré por aquà cuando tenga encendido mi pc |
| 03:48.42 | Elive_user78 | me imagino, solo querÃa probarla y aprender un poco antes de migrar a Elive |
| 03:48.43 | Judico | cualquier cosa que necesites me tienes a la orden |
| 03:48.57 | Elive_user78 | muchas gracias! |
| 03:49.05 | Judico | ok si quieres ayuda durante esa migración ya tienes un voluntario |
| 03:49.09 | Judico | no hay de qué |
| 03:49.33 | Judico | cómo te llamas? para reconocerte después |
| 03:49.40 | Elive_user78 | Leo |
| 03:50.00 | Elive_user78 | quisiera cambiar el nic, pero no tengo idea como hacerlo! |
| 03:50.27 | Judico | ok Leo, espero que te quedes por aca jaja, nos vemos otro dÃa |
| 03:50.58 | Elive_user78 | ok, suerte y gracias nuevamente |
| 03:51.07 | Judico | ok ciao |
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| 04:34.35 | Elive_user13_en | So |
| 04:34.41 | Elive_user13_en | how do i add gaim to startup on gaim |
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| 08:35.04 | Mtraker | hi |
| 08:35.24 | arquebus | hi |
| 09:06.56 | wasynyt | good morning people |
| 09:07.10 | arquebus | hello |
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| 13:25.51 | oCean_ | can i ask a technical question here, or should i go to forum? |
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| 13:49.32 | mini | Hi! |
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| 13:51.06 | mini | I have changed my hard disk with elive installed to another machine and now I recive a popup whenever I start the session |
| 13:51.20 | keyra | mini: you don't know how install Elive ? honey... is not that hard... |
| 13:52.21 | mini | Yes, I installed Elive, but I changed my machine and now thinks that there is a problem |
| 13:52.44 | mini | This is the message: |
| 13:52.46 | mini | Elive Development |
| 13:52.46 | mini | Im sorry to popup you but this message means that you need to reinstall your system due to compatibility reasons with the development of Elive (update mode in the installer available) |
| 13:52.47 | mini | Remember that you are using a DEVELOPMENT VERSION of Elive |
| 13:52.47 | mini | If you still looking this message after to reinstall, please report it to Elive |
| 13:52.47 | mini | Contact: http://elivecd.org/Main/Contact |
| 13:53.46 | mini | How could I avoid this message? |
| 13:55.52 | mini | As I said, all works perfectly when I close the popup, but is a little annoying |
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| 13:57.27 | mini | Any ideas? |
| 13:59.13 | DammitJim | hi mini |
| 13:59.39 | mini | Hi! |
| 14:00.29 | mini | Could you help me with this little problem? |
| 14:01.09 | mini | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.24 | keyra | mini: you don't know how install Elive ? honey... is not that hard... |
| 14:01.25 | DammitJim | what does the popup say? |
| 14:01.33 | DammitJim | btw.. I would recommmend you to just reinstall Elive |
| 14:01.57 | mini | Elive Development |
| 14:01.57 | mini | Im sorry to popup you but this message means that you need to reinstall your system due to compatibility reasons with the development of Elive (update mode in the installer available) |
| 14:01.57 | mini | Remember that you are using a DEVELOPMENT VERSION of Elive |
| 14:01.57 | mini | If you still looking this message after to reinstall, please report it to Elive |
| 14:01.57 | mini | Contact: http://elivecd.org/Main/Contact |
| 14:02.18 | mini | All works perfectly when I close the popup, but is a little annoying |
| 14:03.12 | DammitJim | mini, the reason why I suggest you reinstalling Elive is because after the first installation on your older computer, Elive did a fine tuning of the system |
| 14:03.35 | DammitJim | some stuff might not be obvious and you might think your system is working properly after moving the hard disk to another machine |
| 14:03.45 | DammitJim | but in reality, you aren't taking advantage of its full potential |
| 14:03.53 | DammitJim | any reason why you rather not reinstall? |
| 14:04.00 | DammitJim | it'll take you less than 20 mins |
| 14:05.17 | mini | but all configurations, programs and twiks I made...a lot of time lost for start again. |
| 14:05.47 | DammitJim | oh, if you reinstall |
| 14:05.51 | DammitJim | you can just do an upgrade |
| 14:05.55 | DammitJim | and it will remember your apps |
| 14:06.06 | DammitJim | because Elive will recognize that you already have it installed |
| 14:06.26 | mini | really? |
| 14:06.54 | mini | cool |
| 14:07.37 | DammitJim | yeah |
| 14:07.38 | mini | Im going to try, thanks |
| 14:07.57 | DammitJim | did you do that many customizations? |
| 14:08.04 | DammitJim | lol... I install Elive every month on my machine |
| 14:08.11 | DammitJim | just not my server that runs GEM |
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| 14:35.16 | Elive_user24_pl | ciao a tutti |
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| 14:53.24 | mini | yes, wifi drivers, installed a lot of programs, customizations of this programs, speedup firefox, speedup openoffice, change mimes, prelinking all system, stop daemons that I don't use, kill consoles from inittab, etc, etc, etc... |
| 14:55.10 | mini | my old system had 128Mb RAM and it worked really well |
| 14:57.26 | mini | Now I have 512Mb but all goes faster than a fresh installed system of Elive because I changed modules, effects, shadows, etc... |
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| 15:07.57 | mini | Someone know why is necesary a key for installing the Elive? |
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| 15:45.32 | slade991 | Thanatermesis, hi ! |
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| 15:50.40 | mini | Surprise! That key is related with my message. It appears like when you have an illegal copy of window$... I have made a searched by content of my message and it only appears in two files: enlightenment and key.c (in headers of e17) |
| 15:51.43 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
| 15:52.09 | skad | hi |
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| 16:23.12 | PrinceAMD2 | Thanatermesis, i tried elive with ecomp and it was amazing :) |
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| 19:24.42 | Elive_user | hi ho |
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| 20:31.25 | AlexAnteMachina | hi Thanatermesis |
| 20:31.34 | AlexAnteMachina | need help using a wifi device |
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| 20:40.18 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 20:41.54 | DammitJim | sup dude? |
| 20:41.56 | DammitJim | long time |
| 20:42.27 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:42.33 | wasynyt | is doing quite well |
| 20:42.42 | wasynyt | how are you doing DammitJim |
| 20:43.18 | AlexAnteMachina | hey wasynyt |
| 20:43.25 | wasynyt | good evening AlexAnteMachina |
| 20:43.47 | AlexAnteMachina | hey wasynyt SIS wifi chipset |
| 20:43.52 | AlexAnteMachina | dulll |
| 20:43.56 | AlexAnteMachina | sorry |
| 20:43.59 | wasynyt | ? |
| 20:44.04 | AlexAnteMachina | trying |
| 20:44.06 | wasynyt | what about sis wireless |
| 20:44.14 | AlexAnteMachina | to install sis wifi-driver |
| 20:44.44 | AlexAnteMachina | just using strange keyboard. |
| 20:44.46 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 20:44.55 | AlexAnteMachina | my neighbors one |
| 20:45.06 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:45.08 | wasynyt | o |
| 20:45.09 | wasynyt | k |
| 20:45.18 | AlexAnteMachina | now you got it, i hope. |
| 20:45.26 | AlexAnteMachina | did you? |
| 20:46.30 | wasynyt | get what? that you have sis wifi and you are trying to install the driver for it |
| 20:46.59 | AlexAnteMachina | yes |
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| 20:48.08 | AlexAnteMachina | but I'm a noob when it comes to compiliing |
| 20:48.40 | wasynyt | well it can be a pain.. is it propietary driver? |
| 20:48.49 | wasynyt | or some open source one |
| 20:49.03 | AlexAnteMachina | its a driver released by sis |
| 20:49.13 | AlexAnteMachina | for linux |
| 20:49.26 | wasynyt | what version of linux? |
| 20:49.29 | AlexAnteMachina | but I cant handle this ./configur .... stuff |
| 20:49.34 | wasynyt | 2.6. ? |
| 20:49.59 | AlexAnteMachina | and it asked for path to kernel source directory in elive |
| 20:50.14 | AlexAnteMachina | so what's the path in elive? |
| 20:50.27 | wasynyt | i cant remember |
| 20:50.36 | wasynyt | you can use synaptic to check |
| 20:50.47 | AlexAnteMachina | by default its using /usr/src/linux-2.6.26.8-elive-686 |
| 20:50.56 | wasynyt | then that is the one |
| 20:50.57 | AlexAnteMachina | synaptic? how? |
| 20:51.14 | wasynyt | you can check all the installed files with synaptics |
| 20:51.21 | AlexAnteMachina | k .... but it's telling me its incomplete or missing |
| 20:51.30 | wasynyt | do you have it installed |
| 20:51.36 | AlexAnteMachina | sure, but it's path', too? |
| 20:52.04 | wasynyt | synaptic will list all files and theyre paths for the chosen package |
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| 21:15.55 | AlexAnteMachina | I just asked synaptic for linux-2.6.26.8-elive-686. It did not find a thing. |
| 21:16.09 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, any idea? |
| 21:17.33 | DammitJim | what do you need, AlexAnteMachina ? |
| 21:17.41 | DammitJim | do you need to upgrade your kernel? LOL |
| 21:17.57 | AlexAnteMachina | DammitJim, no idea |
| 21:18.11 | AlexAnteMachina | ./configure is asking for its path |
| 21:18.21 | DammitJim | what are you configuring? |
| 21:18.31 | AlexAnteMachina | SIS wifi drivers |
| 21:18.35 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina: hmm |
| 21:18.39 | wasynyt | wait a momemnt |
| 21:18.53 | AlexAnteMachina | waits a moment |
| 21:20.29 | wasynyt | boots his eee pc that runs debian |
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| 21:21.47 | DammitJim | AlexAnteMachina, is your SIS Wifi device supported in the latest kernel? |
| 21:22.42 | XWall | elive dont have support of headphono bluetooth stereo :S |
| 21:23.11 | AlexAnteMachina | DammitJim, i dont know |
| 21:23.13 | AlexAnteMachina | it does not look as |
| 21:23.16 | AlexAnteMachina | as if |
| 21:23.33 | AlexAnteMachina | it's telling it cant find any |
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| 21:24.15 | AlexAnteMachina | and I was downloading this: http://www.sis.com/download/download_step2.php?id=155875&country=Germany&Image791.x=75&Image791.y=5 |
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| 21:24.35 | AlexAnteMachina | that's the driver-package directly from SIS for linux |
| 21:24.59 | AlexAnteMachina | you know, I'm at my neighbors laptop. |
| 21:25.29 | AlexAnteMachina | just installed elive on this machine. now he's lovin it, but I dislike the thought leaving him alone without working wifi. |
| 21:25.43 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 21:25.58 | AlexAnteMachina | keyra, i love your ass |
| 21:26.12 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: really ? 8) |
| 21:26.21 | AlexAnteMachina | yes! |
| 21:26.32 | AlexAnteMachina | keyra, your ass is awsome! |
| 21:26.44 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina: in synaptic for installed package, right click menu, properties, installed files |
| 21:26.47 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: http://www.agustina-keyra.com.ar :P |
| 21:34.30 | DammitJim | XWall, it needs to be manually configured |
| 21:35.21 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, there is nothin like that |
| 21:35.39 | AlexAnteMachina | found the settings, but not the file needed. |
| 21:35.52 | XWall | yes, but not connect headphono whit bluetooth, the bluetooth-manager dont say "pin" from headphono :S |
| 21:35.54 | DammitJim | AlexAnteMachina, is it a no go with ndiswrapper? |
| 21:36.06 | DammitJim | XWall, no, you need other packages to get it to work |
| 21:36.22 | XWall | DammitJim, bluez-audio? |
| 21:36.46 | AlexAnteMachina | well, since elive does not recognize the wifi-device there is no chance using ndiswrapper. |
| 21:37.23 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 21:38.12 | DammitJim | xwall, you might need bluetooh-alsa |
| 21:40.11 | DammitJim | XWall, http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/documents/bluetooth-0703.html |
| 21:40.37 | XWall | DammitJim, ok i have bluetooth-alsa but say modprobe btsco.ko, i see to ok work, but i when use btsco work say btsco module not found :S |
| 21:42.52 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, do you know what happend to wizard? |
| 21:45.22 | wasynyt | wizard? has something happened to him |
| 21:45.28 | wasynyt | apt seen wizard |
| 21:45.29 | apt | wizard is currently on #idlerpg, last said: 'jak, kurwa, zwykle.. czemu ja zawsze wpierdol dostaje od wszystkich?'. |
| 21:45.46 | wasynyt | there you go AlexAnteMachina |
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| 21:48.32 | DammitJim | AlexAnteMachina, is it |
| 21:48.38 | DammitJim | SiS163? |
| 21:48.49 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, ??? so he's online but not in #elive. |
| 21:48.56 | AlexAnteMachina | DammitJim, no idea |
| 21:49.02 | AlexAnteMachina | it aint my machine |
| 21:49.07 | wasynyt | well you could go and fetch him |
| 21:49.08 | DammitJim | uuummmmm |
| 21:49.10 | DammitJim | lspci |
| 21:49.13 | DammitJim | what does that say? |
| 21:49.21 | AlexAnteMachina | trying... |
| 21:49.33 | XWall | pregunta si un dlink dwl2100ap (ap) soportara openwrt o dd-wrt :S |
| 21:49.42 | XWall | pregunta si un dlink dwl2100ap (ap) soportara openwrt o dd-wrt :S |
| 21:50.15 | wasynyt | doesnt speak spanish |
| 21:50.23 | DammitJim | lspci | grep Network |
| 21:50.24 | AlexAnteMachina | DammitJim, it's telling A LOT! |
| 21:50.31 | DammitJim | yeah, do the other one |
| 21:50.36 | DammitJim | lspci | grep Network controller |
| 21:50.38 | DammitJim | or just |
| 21:50.40 | DammitJim | lspci | grep Network |
| 21:51.06 | AlexAnteMachina | lspci | grep Network does not show a thing. |
| 21:51.25 | DammitJim | btw |
| 21:51.28 | DammitJim | is the wireless card on? |
| 21:51.38 | DammitJim | usually laptops have a switch |
| 21:51.41 | DammitJim | or is this a desktop? |
| 21:51.50 | AlexAnteMachina | no |
| 21:51.55 | AlexAnteMachina | laptop |
| 21:52.19 | DammitJim | ok |
| 21:52.26 | DammitJim | how do you know it's a SIS WIFI CARD? |
| 21:53.54 | DammitJim | when you did lspci |
| 21:54.02 | DammitJim | did you see anything network related? |
| 21:54.04 | DammitJim | pastebin |
| 21:55.47 | AlexAnteMachina | http://pastebin.com/m38a02bb2 |
| 21:56.30 | AlexAnteMachina | it's an FujitsuSiemens Amilo Pa 1538 |
| 21:56.43 | DammitJim | interesting |
| 21:56.50 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 21:56.54 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
| 21:57.17 | DammitJim | I am sorry to have to ask |
| 21:57.20 | AlexAnteMachina | I know its an sis from its drivers CD |
| 21:57.22 | DammitJim | is the wireless card turned on? |
| 21:57.27 | AlexAnteMachina | yes. |
| 21:57.38 | AlexAnteMachina | even it's LED is turned on. |
| 21:58.00 | DammitJim | k |
| 21:58.07 | DammitJim | does dmesg say anything? |
| 21:58.08 | DammitJim | dmesg |
| 21:58.28 | AlexAnteMachina | A LOT! |
| 21:58.34 | DammitJim | lol |
| 21:58.41 | DammitJim | dmesg | grep Network |
| 21:59.14 | AlexAnteMachina | dmesg | grep Network doesnt say a thing |
| 21:59.44 | AlexAnteMachina | aint that weird????? |
| 21:59.56 | DammitJim | very |
| 22:00.00 | DammitJim | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 22:00.04 | DammitJim | does that say anything? |
| 22:00.21 | AlexAnteMachina | yes |
| 22:00.28 | AlexAnteMachina | a lot! |
| 22:00.46 | DammitJim | any wlan0? |
| 22:00.50 | DammitJim | or ath0? |
| 22:01.03 | AlexAnteMachina | no |
| 22:01.12 | DammitJim | lspci -v | grep Ethernet |
| 22:01.29 | AlexAnteMachina | [Christian ~]$ lspci -v | grep Ethernet |
| 22:01.29 | AlexAnteMachina | 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) |
| 22:01.38 | DammitJim | what did it have? eth0, lo, what else? |
| 22:01.49 | AlexAnteMachina | huh??? |
| 22:01.58 | DammitJim | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 22:02.02 | DammitJim | what did it show? |
| 22:02.06 | DammitJim | something is weird |
| 22:02.10 | DammitJim | have you tried rebooting? |
| 22:02.32 | AlexAnteMachina | after installation i rebooted. |
| 22:02.50 | DammitJim | was it working in livecd mode? |
| 22:02.57 | AlexAnteMachina | is thinking about getting another beer (5th) |
| 22:03.01 | AlexAnteMachina | no |
| 22:03.05 | AlexAnteMachina | it never worked. |
| 22:03.20 | AlexAnteMachina | it only worked with windows xp |
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| 22:03.41 | DammitJim | AlexAnteMachina, sorry... I am out of ideas... I don't know enough |
| 22:03.55 | AlexAnteMachina | thank you for trying, DammitJim |
| 22:03.57 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 22:03.59 | wasynyt | good evening PrinceAMD2 |
| 22:04.05 | AlexAnteMachina | hi PrinceAMD2 |
| 22:04.19 | AlexAnteMachina | guess I'll report it on bugs.elivecd.org |
| 22:04.25 | DammitJim | nice laptop |
| 22:04.34 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 22:07.00 | PrinceAMD2 | hey wasynyt AlexAnteMachina |
| 22:07.07 | PrinceAMD2 | good evening wasynyt how r u |
| 22:07.14 | wasynyt | i am doing well |
| 22:07.17 | wasynyt | and you PrinceAMD2 |
| 22:07.29 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina: is having a problem with some laptop |
| 22:07.39 | PrinceAMD2 | wasynyt, i am well was abit bored but i am not anymore |
| 22:07.42 | AlexAnteMachina | PrinceAMD2, any idea about wifiproblems on an fujitsu siemens Pa 1538? |
| 22:07.46 | PrinceAMD2 | wasynyt, what is the problem? |
| 22:07.55 | DammitJim | http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=41537 AlexAnteMachina |
| 22:08.07 | wasynyt | PrinceAMD2: that is nice to hear |
| 22:08.53 | PrinceAMD2 | wasynyt, was bored doing nothing at work until i started limited other persons bandwidth hehe |
| 22:09.20 | wasynyt | was it really worth it? |
| 22:09.23 | wasynyt | :P |
| 22:10.18 | PrinceAMD2 | wasynyt, yes |
| 22:10.34 | PrinceAMD2 | wasynyt, there is less latency on voip |
| 22:10.45 | DammitJim | http://ozarfreo.ende.cc/linux/amiloPa1538-linux.html |
| 22:10.54 | wasynyt | PrinceAMD2: ahh.. ok |
| 22:10.55 | AlexAnteMachina | DammitJim, thanks, but these guys are idiots. |
| 22:11.04 | DammitJim | AlexAnteMachina, read the last link I put in |
| 22:11.18 | AlexAnteMachina | is about |
| 22:11.56 | DammitJim | apparently, this is the card it ships with: sis163 |
| 22:12.53 | DammitJim | AlexAnteMachina, try: |
| 22:13.11 | DammitJim | lspci -n | grep 0BF8:100F |
| 22:19.59 | AlexAnteMachina | DammitJim, nothing |
| 22:20.12 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 22:20.19 | DammitJim | and windows is gone? |
| 22:20.30 | DammitJim | something is wrong... if the card doesn't show up in lspci |
| 22:20.33 | AlexAnteMachina | I just installed ndiswrapper-source. maybe i should reboot?? |
| 22:20.43 | AlexAnteMachina | no, win is still there. it's dualboot |
| 22:21.20 | AlexAnteMachina | DammitJim, may i try rebooting? |
| 22:21.47 | AlexAnteMachina | tries reboot |
| 22:21.53 | PrinceAMD2 | hey DammitJim |
| 22:22.17 | DammitJim | hey PrinceAMD2 |
| 22:22.19 | DammitJim | what's going on? |
| 22:24.03 | PrinceAMD2 | DammitJim, not much , how r u |
| 22:24.10 | DammitJim | ok |
| 22:24.13 | DammitJim | what are you doing? |
| 22:24.22 | DammitJim | why are you bored? |
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| 22:26.21 | AlexAnteMachina | hi ho |
| 22:27.07 | DammitJim | so, what's the veridict? |
| 22:28.20 | PrinceAMD2 | DammitJim, i am listening to some music, playing with tc |
| 22:28.26 | PrinceAMD2 | a bit bored yet |
| 22:28.28 | PrinceAMD2 | yes* |
| 22:29.42 | DammitJim | AlexAnteMachina, ??? |
| 22:30.03 | AlexAnteMachina | not working |
| 22:30.09 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 22:30.10 | DammitJim | I have to run |
| 22:30.11 | AlexAnteMachina | still not working |
| 22:30.14 | DammitJim | good luck, though |
| 22:30.17 | AlexAnteMachina | me to |
| 22:38.20 | wasynyt | heads to bed |
| 22:38.27 | wasynyt | good night people |
| 22:38.43 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina: i hope you can get that wifi working |
| 22:38.57 | keyra | wasynyt: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 22:41.32 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, some day... |
| 22:41.42 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 22:53.37 | Judico | HI !!! |
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| 23:32.53 | AlexAnteMachina | hi ho |
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| 23:58.07 | mini | Hi! |