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00:09.26elmo40Elive_user26_en: hi
00:09.48elmo40there is an app, ecsm
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00:23.15Elive_user26_enreally where is it
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00:36.50Judicohi everybody!
00:37.44lib8264qhello
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01:42.27SpaceAviatoranyone around?
01:51.12elmo40man, people come and go too quickly
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04:15.12elmo40Host 'P4-3GHz', running Linux 2.6.26.8-elive-686 - Cpu0: Intel 3000 MHz Cpu1: Intel 3000 MHz; Up: 13d+13:14; Users: 1; Load: 1.00; Free: [Mem: 15/2026 Mio] [Swap: 847/918 Mio] [/: 119657/151632 Mio] [/home: 27211/113550 Mio] [/boot: 832/942 Mio]; Vpenis: 120.4 cm;
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07:51.16lib8264qany life ?
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08:51.49ojmhiya, got this ecomorph-version and it's really cool
08:53.30ojmI have a bug here and it's a bit irritating, after I do the expothing, every windoweffect is just white. Using Ati.
08:54.03ojmrestarting X fixes it
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10:14.44*** topic/#elive is _______________----------=============== Needed Translators, Needed C coders to made nice e17 modules, Needed EDJE designers and Normal Designers too, http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate ================---------------_______________ || Elive Compiz: http://www.elivecd.org/Download/e17-compiz
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10:30.17*** topic/#elive is _______________----------=============== Needed Translators, Needed C coders to made nice e17 modules, Needed EDJE designers and Normal Designers too, http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate ================---------------_______________ || Elive Compiz: http://www.elivecd.org/Download/e17-compiz
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12:09.40ojmhow do I set time in elive? /etc/timezone seems to not have effect
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13:12.43Elive_user55buenas a todos
13:12.57keyraElive_user55: nas nas
13:13.06Elive_user55hola keyra
13:13.09Elive_user55ohayo
13:13.20keyraElive_user55: hola
13:13.35Elive_user55tengo un laptop con unidad de memorias sd embeded
13:13.44Elive_user55y elive no me reconoce la unidad
13:14.22Elive_user55alguna idea de como configurar ese lector?
13:15.11Elive_user55estas ahi?
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13:19.07Elive_user55keyra podrias ayudarme?
13:19.20Elive_user55o algas?
13:19.40Elive_user55alguien mas
13:19.42Elive_user55?
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13:29.35AlexAnteMachinahi all
13:29.40elmo40AlexAnteMachina:
13:29.47AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user26_en
13:29.49AlexAnteMachinaups...
13:29.52AlexAnteMachinahi elmo40
13:29.54elmo40;)
13:36.52Elive_user26_enhi
13:37.10AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user26_en
13:40.15AlexAnteMachinawelcome to elive.
13:40.17AlexAnteMachina:)
13:47.17elmo40you scared him away!
13:47.19elmo40:P
13:49.43AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, I knew I'm ugly, but as ugly to scare people away on an IC channel???
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13:49.47Elive_user20_enhello
13:49.55AlexAnteMachinahi
13:50.12Elive_user20_endo you know how to enable compiz on elive?
13:50.27AlexAnteMachinadownload the compiz-version.
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13:51.31Elive_user20_endo you know command?
13:52.44AlexAnteMachinathere is none
13:52.57AlexAnteMachinawhat version of elive are you using, Elive_user20_en ?
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13:53.36[K]HolmGUI crash again -.-
13:55.07elmo40Elive_user20_en: do you know the console? you can type: grep elive-version /etc/elive-version
13:55.12Elive_user20_eni have latest unstable
13:55.16elmo40it will tell you if you have the Compiz one or not
13:55.29elmo40the latest stable is not the one with Compiz.
13:55.38elmo40it is in the other download directory.
13:55.54Elive_user20_enno latest unstable
13:56.04Elive_user20_en1.9.23 i guess was it
13:56.10elmo40i dont want a guess
13:56.22elmo40type: grep elive-version /etc/elive-version
13:56.31elmo40in console
13:56.36elmo40tell us exactly
13:57.13Elive_user20_encant copy
13:58.25Elive_user20_en1.9.23
13:58.52AlexAnteMachinadoes it say "...-compiz"?
13:58.59Elive_user20_ennope
13:59.07elmo40then it is not compiz :P
13:59.11AlexAnteMachinayo
13:59.16elmo40elive-version: 1.9.21-5-compiz
13:59.17Elive_user20_enbut i can download it?
13:59.21elmo40this is my verison.
13:59.24elmo40yes, you can
13:59.27Elive_user20_engood
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13:59.40h0lmAnd again -.-
13:59.48elmo40when you downloaded this version, you can go up a directory and into a different directory to get the compiz version
14:00.11Elive_user20_entryng to download it
14:00.21AlexAnteMachinaElive_user20_en, get it from here:
14:00.22AlexAnteMachinahttp://elive.icedslash.com/isos/compiz/
14:00.24Elive_user20_enwhich package ubuntu works?
14:00.26Elive_user20_enok ty
14:00.33AlexAnteMachinaubuntu??????
14:00.38Elive_user20_endebain
14:00.39AlexAnteMachinaforget about ubuntu
14:00.39elmo40Elive_user20_en: none
14:01.00Elive_user20_endamn mans slow internet i cant download whole new iso
14:01.30h0lmAlexAnteMachina, > have you experienced these kind of GUI problems?
14:01.44keyrah0lm: don't ask to ask, ask your problem
14:01.52AlexAnteMachinaonly in times I used ati
14:02.08AlexAnteMachinaoh, h0lm, and forget about keyra
14:02.13AlexAnteMachinaits a bot.
14:02.18h0lmokey.. This is a Intel express card i guess.
14:02.20h0lmThanks :b
14:02.25AlexAnteMachinasometimes it's useful and sometimes its a pain.
14:03.29h0lm;)
14:03.48Elive_user20_ensomeones know command for download compiz?
14:03.53AlexAnteMachinawell Intel should be supported.
14:04.20AlexAnteMachinaElive_user20_en, you dont need to get compiz. just download the elive-compiz-version from here and you are done:
14:04.22AlexAnteMachinahttp://elive.icedslash.com/isos/compiz/
14:04.34keyraAlexAnteMachina: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
14:04.43AlexAnteMachinaapt kill keyra
14:04.44aptACTION shoots a ionized tachyon gun at keyra
14:04.56h0lmlol
14:05.17Elive_user20_enis there any way to get compiz working without downloading 700mb iso?
14:05.49AlexAnteMachinalol... sure.
14:06.04AlexAnteMachinaget the elive-compiz-packages
14:06.09AlexAnteMachinafrom the repositories.
14:06.51Elive_user20_enfrom where?
14:07.56AlexAnteMachinafrom the repos
14:08.08Elive_user20_enwhere can i find them?
14:08.28AlexAnteMachinathe easies way is to use Synaptic
14:08.41Elive_user20_en?
14:08.52Elive_user20_enfor me?
14:08.58AlexAnteMachinaseems like you are new to linux, aren't you?
14:09.23Elive_user20_enyes
14:09.27AlexAnteMachinaokay.
14:09.53AlexAnteMachinaI'll guide you
14:10.13Elive_user20_enthanks
14:10.36AlexAnteMachinapress alt+esc
14:10.46AlexAnteMachinathen type in "Synaptic"
14:10.46Elive_user20_enso
14:11.24AlexAnteMachinait will ask for your root password.
14:11.30Elive_user20_ennothing seems to happend
14:11.56AlexAnteMachinadid you write it with capital "S"?
14:11.56Elive_user20_enno
14:12.02AlexAnteMachinado so
14:12.32Elive_user20_enok im in
14:12.36AlexAnteMachinagood
14:12.57AlexAnteMachinafirst of all you need to klick on the "refresh" button.
14:13.25Elive_user20_endownloading pacakges 1/ 11
14:13.27AlexAnteMachinathis will make it reloading all the package-info
14:13.30Elive_user20_endone
14:14.21AlexAnteMachinaby the way: Are you running Elive from CD or did you already install it?
14:14.32Elive_user20_eninstalled
14:14.35AlexAnteMachinaokay.
14:14.41Elive_user20_encouple hours ago
14:15.23AlexAnteMachinanow we will looke wether there are updates available for your System:
14:15.33AlexAnteMachinaklick on "mark upgrades"
14:15.55Elive_user20_enklicked
14:16.16Elive_user20_enbut itmes not seen to be klicked or marked
14:16.24Elive_user20_enthen apply?
14:16.37AlexAnteMachinais apply klickable now?
14:16.42Elive_user20_enyes
14:16.51AlexAnteMachinathen it's found upgrades.
14:16.59AlexAnteMachinabut we can upgrade that later, too.
14:17.01Elive_user20_enand i press apply
14:17.09AlexAnteMachinajust leave as is now.
14:17.13Elive_user20_enok
14:17.42AlexAnteMachinanow klick on "Search"
14:17.51AlexAnteMachinaand type in "compiz"
14:18.21Elive_user20_endone lots of packages named compiz most of them
14:18.55AlexAnteMachinaokay..... scroll down untill "e17-compiz" package shows up.
14:19.07Elive_user20_enok
14:19.11Elive_user20_enfound it
14:19.16AlexAnteMachinaokay.
14:19.22AlexAnteMachinaklick on it.
14:19.35Elive_user20_enmark or click?
14:19.51AlexAnteMachinafirst click it, then mark it for install
14:20.13Elive_user20_enok it marked emerald too
14:20.39AlexAnteMachinaof course, because linux' packagemanagement is checking dependencies.
14:20.59AlexAnteMachinathat's one of the major-advantages concerned to windows.
14:21.00Elive_user20_enok
14:21.00AlexAnteMachina;)
14:21.08Elive_user20_enwhat now
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14:21.30AlexAnteMachinaadditionally mark "e17-compiz-cube-linuxuser", too.
14:21.41Elive_user20_endone
14:21.47AlexAnteMachinaokay.
14:22.21AlexAnteMachinawith this system you can search and install easily nearly every software you'll ever need!
14:22.28AlexAnteMachinaeven games.
14:22.49Elive_user20_engood, but bad that i cant play gta 4 on linux.
14:23.13AlexAnteMachinanow that we have found and marked all packages we want, just click "apply"
14:23.27Elive_user20_endownloading
14:23.42Elive_user20_enso this may take long, damn internet
14:23.49AlexAnteMachinaokay. it'll install it automatically after download.
14:23.51Elive_user20_en17,4kb/s
14:24.29Elive_user20_enbut one thing more, how do i change keyboard layout i've looked in settings but cant find it
14:25.57Elive_user20_en3minutes remaining
14:28.17Elive_user20_en15 seconds
14:28.49Elive_user20_eninstalled
14:28.50AlexAnteMachinakeyboardsettings can be found in Elpanel
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14:29.15Elive_user20_enok ty
14:29.16AlexAnteMachinaits the last icon in the dock
14:29.50Elive_user20_enyap
14:30.00Elive_user20_enuser configuration
14:30.15Elive_user20_enkeyboard configuration
14:30.22AlexAnteMachinaand by the way: lots of games can be played in linux, too.
14:30.40AlexAnteMachinayou should just browse the web
14:30.47Elive_user20_enim not real player
14:30.50Elive_user20_encedega
14:30.53AlexAnteMachinafor example for "games debian"
14:31.04AlexAnteMachinabecause elive is debian.
14:31.39AlexAnteMachinayou also can use Synaptic for searching the repos for games.
14:33.39AlexAnteMachinanow that you have finished installing the packaged you will need to logoff, choose e17-compiz instead of just e17 or default and login again.
14:33.46AlexAnteMachinathat should do the trick.
14:34.14Elive_user20_eno
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14:35.21Elive_user20_enworking, cool
14:35.42AlexAnteMachinaokay.
14:36.07Elive_user20_enthank you again, but whats best msn program for linux aMSN has a vierd front
14:36.14AlexAnteMachinapress and hold ctrl+alt and press left mousbutton.
14:36.36AlexAnteMachinaget "pidgin"
14:36.58Elive_user20_encool cube
14:36.59AlexAnteMachinapidgin is a multi-protocol Instantmessenger.
14:37.19Elive_user20_enSynaptic
14:37.21AlexAnteMachinayo, cube!
14:37.35AlexAnteMachinayes. use synaptic for installing it.
14:38.18Elive_user20_enfound it
14:39.04Elive_user20_enE17 with compiz = cool
14:40.02AlexAnteMachinaI know.
14:40.04AlexAnteMachina;)
14:40.19AlexAnteMachinayou already watched the video?
14:40.21Elive_user20_enbig respect man
14:40.33Elive_user20_enin elive home page>
14:40.35AlexAnteMachinalol... tell  that thana
14:40.35Elive_user20_en?
14:40.44AlexAnteMachinayes, on the elive homepage.
14:40.49AlexAnteMachinathe compiz-video
14:40.55Elive_user20_enyep ive seen that
14:40.59AlexAnteMachinak
14:41.18Elive_user20_en4 minutes remaining for pidgin
14:41.23AlexAnteMachinaok
14:41.30Elive_user20_endamn how old you ?
14:41.37AlexAnteMachinadamn old
14:41.40AlexAnteMachina;)
14:41.41elmo40:P
14:41.47elmo40i will always be 40...
14:41.58Elive_user20_en:)
14:42.38AlexAnteMachinais as old as brown coal.
14:42.41AlexAnteMachina;)
14:43.23Elive_user20_endamn im so happy that i didnt have to download hole new iso
14:43.30AlexAnteMachinalol
14:43.58AlexAnteMachinanow you got both.
14:44.11AlexAnteMachinanormal e17 and compiz-version.
14:44.13Elive_user20_enja
14:44.19AlexAnteMachinajaja
14:44.21AlexAnteMachinaunbedingt.
14:44.22Elive_user20_enpidgin almost downloaded
14:44.23AlexAnteMachina;)
14:44.33Elive_user20_enfrom germany?
14:44.38AlexAnteMachinaja
14:44.40AlexAnteMachina;)
14:44.42Elive_user20_enok
14:44.48Elive_user20_enim from estonia not too far
14:44.52AlexAnteMachinaI know.
14:45.44Elive_user20_enhow do you...
14:45.53Elive_user20_enpidgin is installed
14:45.53AlexAnteMachinauserinfo told me
14:46.01Elive_user20_enoh
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14:46.25AlexAnteMachinajust do a right-click on a username.
14:46.55AlexAnteMachinaokay. now start pidgin and have fun.
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14:47.45Elive_user20_enbut one thing is wierd before i logged of i changed keyboard layout to estonia but there was wierd stars you know what i mean some was right but most of theme was...
14:48.09AlexAnteMachinaweird stars???
14:48.31Elive_user20_enno they were boxes or something
14:48.39AlexAnteMachinadid your monitor hit your head???
14:49.08Elive_user20_enno im not good in english
14:49.18AlexAnteMachinathats not a problem.
14:49.29AlexAnteMachinaI just dont understand what you mean right now.
14:50.17AlexAnteMachinais pidgin working?
14:50.25AlexAnteMachinaneeds a piss
14:50.36Elive_user20_enso there were world 'kala' example but i can only write 'a' letters everything else was [] something like that
14:50.39Elive_user20_enjes working
14:52.39AlexAnteMachinakala???
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14:52.45Elive_user20_enmy nickname
14:52.49AlexAnteMachinais not understanding...
14:53.32AlexAnteMachinaso your keyboard-settings are wrong.
14:53.46Elive_user20_enand i tryed to make english keyboard layout back but i cant, root password was wrong becose some letters were [] in password
14:53.59AlexAnteMachinalol
14:54.02AlexAnteMachinaokay.
14:54.09AlexAnteMachinajust open a terminal
14:54.16Elive_user20_enok
14:54.35AlexAnteMachinanow you can try and find out what keys to hit to make your rootpassword work.
14:56.00Elive_user20_en<PROTECTED>
14:57.37AlexAnteMachinaof course it was english. english is the default-setting. you logged in to e17-compiz the first time, so everything was default.
14:57.49Elive_user20_enso
14:58.04Elive_user20_enbut how can i get estonian back and working
14:58.22elmo40Elive_user20_en: Eesti? Tere :)
14:58.37Elive_user20_entere tere
14:58.38AlexAnteMachinayou need to find out what keys to press to make your rootpassword work.
14:59.00Elive_user20_enbut keys are in same place but only shows []
14:59.22elmo40Elive_user20_en: your nickname is fish? O_o
14:59.33AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, did you get it??
14:59.33Elive_user20_enyes
14:59.52elmo40~elmo40
14:59.53apthmm... elmo40 is a canuck of estonian descent, and the master of nick completion
15:00.08elmo40apt: elmo40
15:00.09aptsomebody said elmo40 was a canuck of estonian descent, and the master of nick completion
15:00.12AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, I just dont understand his problem
15:00.20elmo40oh come on... silly apt
15:00.45Elive_user20_enelmo your keyboard layout is estonia?
15:00.50elmo40AlexAnteMachina: his characters are not being displayed properly. instead of the a with the two .. on it, it shows []
15:01.10Elive_user20_enthank you
15:01.16AlexAnteMachinaä
15:01.21Elive_user20_enlahe
15:01.30Elive_user20_eni need those too
15:01.57Elive_user20_entryng again to set keyboard to estonian?
15:04.09Elive_user20_encan someone hear me
15:04.17AlexAnteMachinano
15:04.20AlexAnteMachina;)
15:04.28AlexAnteMachinabut we can read you
15:04.41Elive_user20_enno
15:05.03Elive_user20_enyou can read [] if i change that i think but maybe i know whats the problem
15:05.20elmo40kala, you can add many ET packages via synaptic or apt-get. aspell-et iceweasel-l10n-et openoffice.org-l10n-et
15:05.31elmo40but you need to first: dpkg-reconfigure locales
15:05.35elmo40as root
15:05.44Elive_user20_eni need estonian keyboard layout
15:06.15elmo40and add et_EE.UTF-8
15:06.23Elive_user20_enwhere do i add thi
15:06.25Elive_user20_enthis
15:06.26elmo40but add the 'locales' first
15:06.27Elive_user20_ennew on linux
15:06.45elmo40ok
15:06.46AlexAnteMachinaits already added, but not activated.
15:06.49elmo40open the console.
15:06.52Elive_user20_enok
15:06.58elmo40this is installed?
15:07.09Elive_user20_enye
15:07.09Elive_user20_enyep
15:07.41elmo40console open?
15:07.46Elive_user20_enyes
15:08.00elmo40su
15:08.05Elive_user20_ensu?
15:08.08elmo40type: su
15:08.11elmo40become 'root'
15:08.15Elive_user20_enthen password
15:08.24Elive_user20_endoen
15:08.25Elive_user20_endone
15:08.46elmo40type: dpkg-reconfigure locales
15:09.20Elive_user20_enand then?
15:09.38Elive_user20_enselecting all from the et?
15:10.00elmo40no, only the UTF-8
15:10.02Elive_user20_enone of them is selected to are not selected
15:10.14Elive_user20_enbut thats selected already
15:10.35elmo40you can remove everything else, though i suggest you keep the EN_US.UTF-8
15:10.44elmo40just for backup
15:10.53Elive_user20_enet too
15:11.16Elive_user20_enlots of them damn i dont think that i do that
15:11.59Elive_user20_enbut i have one idea is there any way to change root password i know one letter that works with estonian layout and i can change my password to thats letter
15:12.29elmo40mix letters and numbers
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15:12.44Elive_user42_plnice piece of work
15:12.49Elive_user20_enill change my irch chat name
15:12.51elmo40remove all unecessary 'locales'. makes upgrading a little more quick, too.
15:12.52Elive_user20_enwhat
15:13.01Elive_user42_plelive
15:13.08elmo40Elive_user20_en: /nick kala
15:13.31AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user42_pl
15:13.41Elive_user42_plhi
15:13.50Elive_user42_plev1
15:13.55Elive_user20_enwait i now unselect all about en and et>
15:13.56Elive_user20_en?
15:14.05Elive_user42_ploki time to go
15:14.08Elive_user42_plc ya
15:14.10Elive_user20_enadio
15:14.12AlexAnteMachinasee you
15:15.19elmo40Elive_user20_en: /nick kala
15:15.21elmo40change your nick :)
15:15.27Elive_user20_enhow
15:15.48elmo40Elive_user20_en: /nick kala
15:15.57elmo40just type: /nick kala
15:16.14Elive_user20_ennothing happened
15:18.02elmo40using xchat?
15:18.11Elive_user20_enjep
15:18.13elmo40there is an option, somewhere...
15:18.19elmo40AlexAnteMachina: teach him, i dont use xchat :P
15:18.21Elive_user20_eni think too
15:18.58AlexAnteMachinaElive_user20_en, did you finally solve your keyboardsettings-problem?
15:19.13Elive_user20_ennope jet working on it
15:19.34AlexAnteMachinaAs far as I understand your problem:
15:19.45Elive_user20_ennope
15:20.02AlexAnteMachinayou cannot type in your root-password because the keyboard-settings are wrong.
15:20.13Elive_user20_enim doing like elmo said unselecting anything else about et en
15:20.22AlexAnteMachinaAm I right?
15:20.23Elive_user20_enyes i know that
15:20.29Elive_user20_enyep
15:20.41AlexAnteMachinano, I'm just trying to confirm wether I understood your problem.
15:21.05Elive_user20_entryng to do something
15:21.09AlexAnteMachinayou know, I cannot SEE your problem.
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15:21.30Elive_user20_enyes i know
15:21.39AlexAnteMachinabut you made dpkg-reconfigure
15:21.46Elive_user20_enyes
15:21.48AlexAnteMachinaand it works.
15:21.55elmo40Elive_user20_en: you can not find the option to change your nick?
15:22.03AlexAnteMachinathis means that you had to be root.
15:22.04elmo40i am surprised /nick kala, doesnt work
15:22.10Elive_user20_entwo things same time
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15:22.39AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, I think first of all we should focus on the major problem with the keyboard-settings.
15:22.56AlexAnteMachinathe nickname is a minor setting.
15:23.10AlexAnteMachinalol.. now he's gone.
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15:23.21AlexAnteMachinaoh, hi
15:23.28Elive_user20_ennickname already uesd
15:23.40Elive_user20_enThats the problem
15:23.48elmo40type, as root: /usr/share/langconf/bin/slangconf
15:24.19Elive_user20_enand then
15:24.33elmo40click on Eesti
15:24.39elmo40but change your nick! :P
15:24.42Elive_user20_enestona only
15:24.52elmo40it changes your 'active' language, i believe
15:25.00KalaESTChanged
15:25.01elmo40but did you install the files i mentioned first?
15:25.07AlexAnteMachinanice
15:25.10KalaESTyes
15:25.26elmo40aspell-et iceweasel-l10n-et openoffice.org-l10n-et
15:25.40KalaESTi selected estonia but cannot see diffrence
15:25.48elmo40well, i dont know then.
15:25.53elmo40some things will change, some wont
15:25.59elmo40now for your kb layout...
15:26.04KalaESTno those letters
15:26.06AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, you should have a password that consists of normal ascii-charset signs.
15:26.17KalaESTwhat
15:26.34AlexAnteMachinadont use special signs.
15:26.41AlexAnteMachinaonly international signs.
15:26.54AlexAnteMachinano "ä ö ü .... "
15:26.57elmo40as root, type: keybconf
15:27.01KalaESTnope
15:27.05elmo40and select Estonian
15:27.15KalaEST'ገ።ገ።።ገ
15:27.19KalaESTcooለ
15:27.20elmo40if nothing changes, i dont know what to do...
15:27.29KalaESTi know
15:27.42KalaESTsee whats happens i had to change back to american
15:27.55KalaESTfrom root in console
15:28.09KalaEST።።ሀ'።ሀደ።ሀደሀ።ደገፈ
15:28.26KalaESTwhats now
15:29.07KalaESThelllooo can someone hear me
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15:29.44Elive_user20_enso
15:30.14KalaESTKdamn
15:30.18KalaESTdamn
15:30.44KalaESThello i figured out
15:31.34KalaESTonly one letter is missing i changed it to finnish almost same as estonian
15:32.14KalaESTbut is not the same
15:33.51KalaESTwhats matter why anybody not talking
15:34.29KalaESTbut anyway thanks for your help guys
15:38.00elmo40AlexAnteMachina: where did you go?
15:38.10elmo40i had to get breakfast... but he left :/
15:38.21AlexAnteMachinaI had to eat.
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15:38.27AlexAnteMachinasorry for being human.
15:38.50KalaESTwhy my resolution change when i restart
15:39.43AlexAnteMachinacause your xconfig tells the system to.
15:40.06KalaESTchanging that?
15:43.04KalaESThow to change that
15:43.32AlexAnteMachinahooo.... brown one... slow down.
15:43.37AlexAnteMachina;)
15:43.44KalaEST?
15:43.46AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, one after the other.
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15:43.53AlexAnteMachinastep by step.
15:43.57KalaESTok
15:44.31AlexAnteMachinakeyboardsettings okay now?
15:44.37KalaESTöö
15:44.39KalaESTä
15:44.40KalaESTjep
15:44.58AlexAnteMachinaokay.
15:45.17AlexAnteMachinawhat else isnt working?
15:45.25AlexAnteMachinanickname?
15:45.55KalaESTnickname is like if i open xchat again im back to elive user 20
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15:46.14AlexAnteMachinaokay.
15:46.31AlexAnteMachinaclick on "XChat"
15:46.44AlexAnteMachina"Networklist"
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15:46.56KalaESTso
15:47.02AlexAnteMachinahere you can change and save your nickname
15:47.03KalaESTdone
15:47.11KalaESTOhoo
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15:47.48KalaFromESTdone
15:47.54*** part/#elive KalaFromEST (n=Kala@77-233-68-49.cdma.dyn.kou.ee)
15:48.34KalaESTWhat about resolution
15:49.49KalaESTAnd i have one question more
15:49.57AlexAnteMachinawhat question?
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15:50.19KalaESTwhy i cant see my other hard drives on file manager i have music on them
15:50.41elmo40KalaEST: explain
15:50.45elmo40this a dualboot machine?
15:50.52KalaESTjes
15:50.57KalaESTseven and elive
15:51.07KalaESTand one hard drive more called some stuff
15:51.09elmo40seven? :/
15:51.19AlexAnteMachinawindows seven
15:51.23KalaESTyes
15:51.35AlexAnteMachinathe one after vista
15:51.35elmo40ok... first thing is first. Open a console ;) (yes, i am a console freak, what can i say)
15:51.39KalaESTelmo i installled elive today
15:51.52KalaEST:)
15:51.56KalaESTopened
15:51.58KalaESTroot?
15:52.05AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, you are our hero!
15:52.06KalaESTim learning something about linux
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15:52.07AlexAnteMachina:=)
15:52.14KalaESTwtf
15:52.41KalaESTConsole opened
15:53.58KalaESThallooo
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15:55.34KalaESTdamn
15:55.37AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, why do you logoff so often?
15:56.08KalaESTim not but i dont see anyone to write and colse xchat on open again and then people write
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15:56.42AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, dont be impatient
15:56.47KalaEST?
15:56.53KalaESTso console opened
15:57.06AlexAnteMachinawe are all just normal people
15:57.29KalaESTmm i clicked somewhere and i can see my other drives
15:57.32AlexAnteMachinaask elmo40 what he was aiming on
15:57.47KalaESTelmo40 can you please explain
15:58.35elmo40oh, sorry
15:58.37elmo40company came over ;)
15:58.53KalaEST:)
15:59.04elmo40KalaEST: type: df
15:59.14KalaESTso
15:59.15KalaESTdone
15:59.19elmo40what do you see with /dev/hd* or /dev/sd*
15:59.23KalaESTsda1 sda3
15:59.25KalaESTsda2
15:59.54KalaESTou this problem is solved
16:00.06KalaESTi just had to go mnt and select drive
16:00.47KalaESTrap for my ears :)
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16:01.34KalaESTproblem solved, last thing, resolution
16:01.45elmo40nVidia?
16:01.54KalaESTATI X1650
16:01.58elmo40ewww.
16:01.59elmo40lol
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16:02.15KalaEST1 and half year old computer, still plays gta iv
16:02.34KalaESTnever upgraded something
16:02.49elmo40if you do, get nVidia, many more options.
16:02.55KalaEST:)
16:03.04elmo40in console type: apt-get update
16:03.23elmo40then type: apt-get upgrade
16:03.29elmo40and say Y
16:04.24KalaESTe: could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
16:04.43KalaESTunable to lock the list directory
16:04.44AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, is synaptic still open?
16:04.51KalaESTno
16:05.52KalaESTso what now
16:06.23*** join/#elive KalaEST (n=Kala@77-233-68-49.cdma.dyn.kou.ee)
16:06.37KalaESTsynaptic not opened
16:07.33KalaESTou i needed su before apt command
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16:08.17KalaESTwhat next
16:09.44*** join/#elive KalaEST (n=Kala@77-233-68-49.cdma.dyn.kou.ee)
16:10.04KalaESTgot that apt upgrade what next
16:10.25elmo40update and upgrade?
16:10.32KalaESTyes
16:10.45elmo40KalaEST: apt-get install fglrx-control
16:10.55elmo40i dont know if it is for your card, though... but it may work.
16:11.25KalaESTdownloading bu long time, slow internet
16:11.35KalaEST3 minutes
16:11.52elmo40that is a little long :P
16:12.18KalaESTwhat do you mean, you have slower?i dont think so
16:13.40KalaESTalmost done
16:14.03KalaESTdone
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16:14.29KalaESTdone
16:15.09KalaESTwhat now
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16:15.56KalaESTdone
16:16.00KalaESTwhat next
16:17.26KalaESThelloo
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16:19.00KalaESTelmo what next
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16:21.31KalaESTelmo
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16:22.48KalaESThello
16:22.49AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST,
16:22.55AlexAnteMachinayou need to do this:
16:22.58AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, ping
16:23.04KalaEST?
16:23.14AlexAnteMachina:)
16:23.26KalaESTwith this / ?
16:23.40AlexAnteMachinawhen typing the correct name, a sound will be played.
16:23.42AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST,
16:23.51AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST,
16:23.56AlexAnteMachinaheard it?
16:24.00KalaESTyes
16:24.03AlexAnteMachinaokay.
16:24.19AlexAnteMachinatyping nicknames is easy when using nick-completion
16:24.42KalaESThow do i have to type
16:24.43AlexAnteMachinajust type in first 2 or 3 letters, then hit the tab-key
16:24.54KalaESTelmo40,
16:24.58KalaESTou
16:26.06KalaESTso what i type that he can hear me
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16:27.42elmo40i can here you
16:27.46elmo40(see) you
16:27.47elmo40;)
16:27.56elmo40KalaEST: i have company here, remember?
16:27.56KalaESTso
16:28.03KalaESTyea
16:28.22elmo40now, you should have an application, that you start from console, called fglrx-control
16:28.25elmo40maybe
16:28.28elmo40:P
16:28.35KalaEST:)
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16:29.10KalaESTcommand not found;S
16:29.10*** part/#elive Elive_user71_es (n=Elive_us@201.255.163.68)
16:30.00elmo40type: fg    then press [Tab] twice
16:30.09elmo40does something similar come up?
16:30.17KalaESTy or n
16:30.20elmo40maybe type: ati[Tab+Tab]
16:30.43elmo40the [Tab] completion may not be active... i remmeber thana changed tings.
16:30.48KalaESTdisplay all 2312 possibiltities?
16:41.30KalaESTAll my problems seen to be solved
16:41.45KalaESTbut how can i change theme in emerald or open emerald anyway
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16:43.53AlexAnteMachinawhat are you aiming on, KalaEST
16:43.54AlexAnteMachina??
16:44.03KalaESTchanging theme
16:46.08AlexAnteMachinawhat theme?
16:46.27AlexAnteMachinadesktop, wallpaper, etc...??
16:46.41keyraAlexAnteMachina: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
16:46.46KalaESTnope themes like close buttons and thangs
16:47.29AlexAnteMachinathis aint kde
16:47.41elmo40KalaEST: those are (mainly) GKT themes
16:53.32AlexAnteMachinayou need to use e17 settings for changing themes.
16:53.45AlexAnteMachinanot emerald
16:53.50KalaEST:S
16:54.40KalaESTwhat about elisa media center?
16:55.10KalaESTworking on it?
16:56.22AlexAnteMachinaelisa?
16:56.25AlexAnteMachinawhats that?
16:57.02KalaESTmedia center
16:57.14KalaESTwhy nba 08 lags ?
16:57.25AlexAnteMachinahow do I know?
16:57.34KalaESTno lag in windows even if graphics high now its lowest but lags
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17:00.04AlexAnteMachinaprobably it depends on your graphix drivers
17:00.19KalaEST:)
17:00.29KalaESTbut compiz working
17:01.08AlexAnteMachinayou can search for drivers even on the manufacturer homepage
17:01.14AlexAnteMachinabut be aware:
17:01.27AlexAnteMachinaif it fails x wont start.
17:01.42KalaESTknow that
17:01.42AlexAnteMachinax is the server needed for desktop
17:02.03AlexAnteMachinacause linux is a little different to win
17:02.15AlexAnteMachinaits using a graphics-server
17:02.27AlexAnteMachinathat comes with an advantage:
17:02.43AlexAnteMachinasince it's an server one can connect over lan to any machine.
17:02.47KalaESTso i dont better mess with that
17:03.35AlexAnteMachinayou may get a 2nd computer or at minimum a seperate partiton with a system to "play" and try out with.
17:04.01AlexAnteMachinato make sure you wont mess all up.
17:06.35AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, your resolution is okay now?
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17:10.59AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, ping
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17:17.37KalaESTyes
17:20.16AlexAnteMachinaokay.
17:20.28AlexAnteMachinaseems like everything important works well now.
17:20.36KalaESTyep
17:20.57KalaESTsome good program for linux?
17:22.07AlexAnteMachinawhat kind of program are you looking for?
17:22.20AlexAnteMachinathere are several thousands!!!!
17:22.27elmo40~elmo40
17:22.27apt[elmo40] a canuck of estonian descent, and the master of nick completion
17:22.27KalaESTi dont know some for listening music
17:22.35elmo40KalaEST: you want GUI?
17:22.38AlexAnteMachinaxmms
17:22.44AlexAnteMachinait comes with elive
17:22.47elmo40nah, xmms is too much like Winamp
17:22.53AlexAnteMachinait's the cd-icon in the dock
17:22.54KalaESTright
17:23.22AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, xmms is a nice, tiny program
17:23.36KalaESTbut what elmo reccormends?
17:23.54AlexAnteMachinasomething terminal-related he'd recommend, I think.
17:23.58elmo40there are many options... just like Windows
17:24.05AlexAnteMachinaget Exaile
17:24.13KalaESTis there something like WMP
17:24.22AlexAnteMachinaamarok needs too many kde-stuff
17:24.26elmo40wow, apt is SLOW today!
17:24.50AlexAnteMachinathere are thousands better than mediaplayer.
17:24.52AlexAnteMachina;)
17:25.02KalaESTbut i like meida player style
17:25.17AlexAnteMachinatry others
17:25.23KalaESTlike...?
17:25.24AlexAnteMachinayou'll get used to them
17:25.30AlexAnteMachinaexaile
17:25.50AlexAnteMachinause synaptic for installing it
17:26.00KalaESTthere isnt that
17:26.13AlexAnteMachinahuh??
17:26.17KalaESTsorry my bad
17:26.37AlexAnteMachinak
17:27.17KalaESTdownloaded
17:27.34KalaESTcool
17:27.48AlexAnteMachinaokay. you like it?
17:28.08AlexAnteMachinafirst of all you'll need to tell it where your music is stored/will be stored.
17:28.23KalaESTyes
17:28.35elmo40VLC is a great media player.
17:28.38elmo40for everything
17:28.47elmo40audio, video, dvd...
17:28.52AlexAnteMachinait even can handle cd-covers
17:29.21elmo40but Amarok is q very complete player. even though the size of it is small but the library requirements are huge :/
17:29.46KalaESTcodecs
17:30.04AlexAnteMachinaamarok wont work perfectly in enlightenment.
17:30.14AlexAnteMachinait's too kde-related.
17:30.35AlexAnteMachinaI really love amarok, but this is a real fault.
17:30.42KalaEST:)
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17:30.55KalaESTno viruses in linux?
17:31.09elmo40AlexAnteMachina: it works quite nicely
17:31.16elmo40Fish, no virus
17:31.21KalaESTdamn
17:31.38AlexAnteMachinawell, viruses can be programmed for every os.
17:31.49KalaEST:)
17:31.52elmo40true... but how do they infiltrate withought root privi?
17:31.58AlexAnteMachinabut it's very hard creating them for linux AND making them work, too.
17:32.25AlexAnteMachinabruteforce may crack several pw#s
17:32.36elmo40fish, you can even setup your own audio streaming server! If you are at someone elses computer you can add your IP and stream YOUR music wherever :)
17:32.44AlexAnteMachinabut it's really hard to make it work.
17:32.55KalaEST:)
17:33.15AlexAnteMachinapossibilities are endless
17:33.30KalaEST12 virutal desktops, cube only shows 4 and not those that is under cube and on cube
17:33.50KalaESTi know vlc
17:33.51elmo40ya, you dont need 12 :P
17:33.52AlexAnteMachinaa friend of mine created a webMin-module for streaming music
17:33.58KalaESTii know
17:34.08AlexAnteMachinaI reduced them to only 4
17:34.10KalaESTbut 6 in cube?
17:34.11AlexAnteMachinaenough for me
17:34.23elmo40you can Right-Click the top right corner,  Virtual Desktop Settings
17:34.25elmo40and play with it
17:35.07AlexAnteMachinaafter that you can enter the "shelf 6" settings and change it's size.
17:36.30KalaESTOK guys im tv true moment starting
17:36.41AlexAnteMachinahuh?
17:36.46AlexAnteMachinayou are a tv?
17:36.56KalaESTim going to watch tv
17:37.00AlexAnteMachinaokay.
17:37.07AlexAnteMachinawhat's special on it?
17:37.16KalaESTTrue Moment
17:37.21AlexAnteMachina???
17:37.31KalaESTone good program
17:37.34KalaESTtv program
17:37.45KalaESTis away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots
17:37.54AlexAnteMachinaokay, dude
17:38.10AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, I got a feeling he's quite in a hurry.
17:39.06AlexAnteMachinalots of linux newbies are in a hurry.
17:39.15AlexAnteMachinaI dont understand that.
17:39.54AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, do you have any idea about it?
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17:44.17elmo40any idea about why he is in a hurry?
17:44.19elmo40AlexAnteMachina: no
17:45.01AlexAnteMachinai'm not talking especially about this guy, but about lots of linux-newbies.
17:45.19AlexAnteMachinathey all seem to be in a rush when entering this channel
17:56.49KalaESThos hurry
17:57.43elmo40KalaEST: you are in a hurry :P
17:57.47elmo40did you install amarok?
17:58.30elmo40you should also install sqlite, it will keep track of your media.
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18:12.14KalaESTno
18:12.33KalaESTi installed exaile and VLX
18:12.36KalaESTVLC
18:13.54KalaESTamarok worth downloading?
18:18.27KalaESThow to configure compiz?
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18:19.30KalaESThelloo
18:19.55AndyCrawfordKalaEST:  I use Exaile and love it.
18:20.01AndyCrawfordconfigure compiz with  ecsm
18:20.12KalaESTecsm?
18:20.46AndyCrawfordyea, just <alt> <esc> to open the run command dialog
18:20.49AndyCrawfordand type ecsm
18:20.56AndyCrawfordwell
18:21.03AndyCrawfordif you have ecomorph installed that is
18:21.09KalaESTcool thanks
18:21.11AndyCrawfordnp
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18:23.56elmo40never used exail
18:23.58elmo40how is it?
18:24.00elmo40any ss?
18:24.30AlexAnteMachinass??
18:28.04AndyCrawfordExail is nice, kinda like Amarok or iTunes even, it's a collection player of course.  But it is just the right weight for me.
18:28.20AndyCrawfordI has enough plugins to do nice things, but is not so heavy as Amarok for install purposes.
18:28.52AndyCrawfordExaile has last.fm integration, which I like, and have a plugin for on my Wordpress blog, so it shows on my blog what I'm listening to lately with Ekiga.
18:28.56AndyCrawfordExaile I mean
18:29.05AndyCrawfordEkiga is VoIP phone, sorry :)
18:29.11AndyCrawfordgot E on the brain!
18:29.31AndyCrawfordExaile has a bluetooth module, so I get a menu option to bluetooth to my phone the current playing track.
18:30.01AndyCrawfordI never thought I'd use that, but I can't tell you how many times I'm sitting here listening, and me or someone else wants the current song on phone.
18:30.04AndyCrawfordand it's a click away.
18:30.12AndyCrawfordit has IM plugin, so it status's my Pidgin.
18:30.22AndyCrawfordIt's nice.
18:30.52AndyCrawfordI was an xmms guy for along time, cause it was so light.  But IMHO, Exaile is worth the weight in features and usability.
18:31.06AndyCrawfordss= screenshot maybe?
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18:35.22KalaFromESTso
18:35.34KalaFromESTamarok almost done
18:37.53KalaFromESTgonna download new ati drivers
18:39.32elmo40ss==screenshot
18:39.52elmo40Fish, before you install amarok, install sqlite
18:39.55elmo40you will need it
18:40.32KalaFromESTalready installed
18:40.41KalaFromESTand working
18:42.10elmo40nice
18:42.13elmo40well, enjoy
18:42.53elmo40there are others... i use mocp ;)
18:42.55KalaFromESTbut in ati home page there is no x1650 driver in linux
18:44.53elmo40pc or laptop?
18:45.25KalaESTPC
18:48.58elmo40radeon?
18:49.03elmo40firegl?
18:49.27elmo40https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run
18:49.31elmo40here
18:49.32elmo40good luck
18:49.43elmo40on my old machine, they were tricky to get working properly
18:49.55elmo40so, open the console... wget https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run
18:50.00elmo40su to root
18:50.16elmo40type: ./ati-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run
18:50.21elmo40and do what it asks.
18:50.24elmo40enjoy!
18:51.41elmo40some install info:   https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat92-inst.pdf
18:52.02elmo40ciao, for now
18:53.06KalaESTradeon
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18:55.07AlexAnteMachinaI had a radeon card once, too
19:06.14KalaESTand
19:06.21KalaESTwhats happened
19:07.29AlexAnteMachinaI bought a nvidia card.
19:07.30AlexAnteMachina:)
19:07.42KalaESTwhy
19:08.13AlexAnteMachinacause ati-drivers (especially older ones) are a hoax.
19:08.18AlexAnteMachinathey simply suck.
19:08.24KalaEST:)
19:08.30KalaESTi was ati problem too
19:08.33KalaESTa huge one
19:08.45KalaESThad*
19:09.04AlexAnteMachinaI got a low-cost 6200 GeForce passively cooled XFX card. Now everything works fine.
19:09.13AlexAnteMachinanever had any problems again.
19:09.20KalaEST:)
19:09.46AlexAnteMachinaI'd recommend you to get something like that, too.
19:09.53KalaESTwhen i buy i buy a hole new computer becose cannot upgrade more than 2gb of ram and i have 2 installed
19:10.12AlexAnteMachinaIt will nicely work with every OS.
19:10.37KalaESTwhat about ATI HD cards
19:11.07AlexAnteMachinano idea
19:11.33AlexAnteMachinabut I think HD is not matured enough, yet.
19:12.08KalaESTso whats the time in germany
19:12.31AlexAnteMachinain case you want to buy a new computer make sure it's got an nvidia-card.
19:12.43AlexAnteMachina20:10
19:12.51KalaESTjap and i think nvidia gtx series
19:13.04KalaESTour time is 21:10
19:13.13AlexAnteMachinaanyway. that depends on your needs and on the system.
19:14.07KalaESTlinux system isnt that bad like everybody thinks
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19:14.41AlexAnteMachinalol... who thinks it was bad??
19:14.54AlexAnteMachinathose guys never run any!
19:14.56KalaESTmy classmates
19:14.58AlexAnteMachinalol
19:15.03AlexAnteMachinahow old are they?
19:15.11KalaEST14-15
19:15.16AlexAnteMachinateens, I'd guess.
19:15.19AlexAnteMachinalol... I was right.
19:15.21AlexAnteMachina;)
19:15.28KalaESTabout what
19:15.40AlexAnteMachinaabout the age of your classmates.
19:15.49AlexAnteMachinateenagers.
19:15.49KalaEST:)
19:16.02KalaESTdamn old man:)
19:16.06AlexAnteMachinalol
19:16.19wasynytgood evening people
19:16.23AlexAnteMachinaI cant believe myselfe how old i got.
19:16.25AlexAnteMachinahi wasynyt
19:16.39KalaESTyo
19:16.51wasynythow are you doing KalaEST and AlexAnteMachina
19:16.59AlexAnteMachinagood
19:17.08KalaESTdoin great
19:17.12AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, do you have a laptop?
19:17.18KalaESTyes
19:17.21KalaESTand a pc
19:17.22AlexAnteMachinaokay.
19:17.33AlexAnteMachinawill elive work on your laptop?
19:17.52KalaESTi guess nvidia card and 2gb of ram
19:17.52AlexAnteMachinaneeds another cigarette..... damn smoking....
19:17.56AlexAnteMachinanever start smoking, KalaEST
19:18.03AlexAnteMachinacool!
19:18.10KalaESTi dont even think about it
19:18.19AlexAnteMachinaInstall elive-compiz on it.
19:18.36KalaESTi dont think so, hp license is gone then
19:18.40AlexAnteMachinado some configuration.... for music... for using openoffice... for pidgin..
19:18.57AlexAnteMachinalol... just create a dualboot-system.
19:19.04AlexAnteMachinawin will stay as it is.
19:19.24KalaEST160gb hard drive free is not very much of it
19:19.32AlexAnteMachinamore than enough.
19:19.51KalaESTlets see sometimes
19:19.58AlexAnteMachinayou know, linux can handle NTFS, too. so you can use data stored by win on linux, too.
19:20.13KalaESTi know
19:20.17KalaESTi use right now
19:20.17AlexAnteMachinaonly win cant handle other FS than fat16/32 and ntfs
19:20.30KalaESTthats bad...
19:20.42AlexAnteMachinayou could show this os then to the girls.
19:20.44AlexAnteMachina;)
19:20.48KalaEST:)
19:20.56KalaESTi have on already
19:21.07AlexAnteMachinathe boys always think they know it all.
19:21.17KalaEST:)
19:21.21AlexAnteMachinaBut most girls are keen on new stuff
19:21.36AlexAnteMachinaNo, it's not about getting a girlfriend for you.
19:21.41KalaESTlike linux
19:21.49AlexAnteMachinayeah.
19:21.52AlexAnteMachinaand Elive is
19:21.55AlexAnteMachinaSEXY!
19:21.57AlexAnteMachina;)
19:22.02AlexAnteMachinathat's what they like
19:22.16AlexAnteMachinauseful, reliable and GOOD LOOKING stuff.
19:22.24KalaESTlike a paper plane thats fly away from desktop when minimazing
19:22.28AlexAnteMachinaelive is really rock solid.
19:22.34AlexAnteMachinayo
19:22.41KalaESTi know
19:22.47AlexAnteMachinaor the cube!!
19:23.10KalaESTI enabled monitor blur, thats cool when cube is...
19:23.42KalaESTwooby windows
19:23.51KalaESTfire effect
19:23.58AlexAnteMachinayou know, industry made research in how to make more women buy stuff.... that's called the "waf" (Wome Acceptance Factor"
19:24.09AlexAnteMachinathat aint no hoax.
19:24.11KalaESTthats called linux
19:24.30AlexAnteMachinathe point is:
19:24.55AlexAnteMachinawomen want to use things . Men mostly want to play with things.
19:25.04KalaEST:)
19:25.11KalaESTwhat about mandriva xtreme
19:25.22AlexAnteMachinaThey use things for a special purpose.
19:26.04AlexAnteMachinawell, mandriva is nice, too and more like win. so it's easier for people to use it. but it's got a weird resolution problem.
19:26.19KalaEST:)
19:26.22AlexAnteMachinafrom time to time it just falls back to default.
19:26.26KalaESTi like kde4 start menu
19:26.38AlexAnteMachinaand its wasting lots of dock-space for rubbish.
19:26.54AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, elive has something like that, too.
19:27.02AlexAnteMachinajust klick on the desktop.
19:27.03KalaESTwhere
19:27.13KalaESTnot pretty same but
19:27.40AlexAnteMachinalol... sure it aint the same....
19:27.50AlexAnteMachinait's enlightenment, not kde.
19:27.55KalaESTelive got style
19:28.01AndyCrawfordyou mean like KDE 4 has?  with Favs, Apps, System, etc.?  Yea I get that.  There are several menus though, much leaner with very similar functionality.
19:28.17AndyCrawfordyou can get favorite apps on right click too
19:28.31AndyCrawfordand you could set up middle click to be Places menu or something
19:28.35AndyCrawfordto get files too
19:29.01AndyCrawfordwith the Places module, you can have file system locations in your menu.  So it has almost the same functionality.
19:29.05AlexAnteMachinaKalaEST, you need to find out about Elive.
19:29.12AndyCrawfordand like KalaEST says, with style.
19:29.19AlexAnteMachinayo!
19:29.33AndyCrawfordlol
19:30.43AlexAnteMachinabut think of it as a "yo" and not as a "YO" like hip-hop
19:30.52AlexAnteMachinadoes not like hip-hop
19:31.12KalaESTadio
19:31.22AlexAnteMachinaby
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