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01:12.40ast_Buenas!
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02:54.33ItachiHola, alguien que me pueda ayudar ?
02:56.30Itachitengo una memoria USB y e tratado de hacerla un LiveUSB
02:56.33Itachihaciendo: grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/media/disk /dev/sdb1
02:56.40Itachipero nada no bootea :)
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08:35.34Itachialguién a usado el 'UnetBootin' y le a ido bien ?
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10:24.57betraydhmm I've been trying to install to hard drive. It does a few steps, like check the CD, make the partitions, but when it comes time to install, it chokes after a few minutes
10:25.35betraydThis is Elive GEM iirc. Can I do the install step by step, maybe there is an outline of what goes on under the hood?
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10:44.57AlexAnteMachinabetrayd, why dont you use latest dev-version?
10:45.40betraydwell I already have downloaded this one, on an old laptop
10:46.01betraydand I think it will also choke on installing to hard drive
10:46.41AlexAnteMachinato see what eliveinstaller does, just open a terminal and type in "eliveinstaller"
10:47.11betraydis it a script heh
10:47.24betraydmaybe I can just run steps by hand
10:48.02betraydAlexAnteMachina, the devel-latest, would I be able to get torrent speeds on it
10:48.16keyrabetrayd: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website
10:50.58AlexAnteMachinabetrayd, dont use torrents
10:51.10betraydk
10:51.17AlexAnteMachinaget it from the website
10:59.32betraydagh foiled again. eliveinstaller prompts for --help but it also says 'This option is not avaialble. Please see --help'
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11:00.46betraydIt seems to show status e.g. Start installer, Unmounting possible mounted partitions, mkswap, and so on'
11:03.02betraydwait brb
11:04.45AlexAnteMachinaokay
11:07.46betraydi think it's trying to show the windows
11:09.06betraydi still have the original iso though
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11:09.41betraydso whatever it's doing there from the dvd I might be able to do the same
11:12.57AlexAnteMachinaDVD??????
11:13.08AlexAnteMachinait's a cd
11:13.12betraydheh i was out of CDs
11:13.34AlexAnteMachinawell, I guess that might cause problems.
11:13.45AlexAnteMachinayou also could use a usb-memory-stick.
11:13.59keyraAlexAnteMachina: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe
11:14.06AlexAnteMachinaoh keyra
11:14.14betraydheh
11:14.29AlexAnteMachinaapt, kill keyra
11:14.30aptACTION shoots a inverse fluxelectron gun at keyra
11:14.54betraydi've heard of apt get but apt kill lol
11:15.18betraydhey maybe usb is the way to go
11:15.28AlexAnteMachinayo bro'!
11:15.32betraydinstead of sweating thru this
11:15.47AlexAnteMachinause unetbootin for creating it
11:16.02keyraAlexAnteMachina: Do not use the default version of unetbootin, use the SPECIAL version of unetbootin for Elive: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) and http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-linux-latest (linux), it is recommended to use the Windows version
11:17.23betraydah I know I tried that. But the steps there says, Boot from the usb. My machine can't
11:17.33betraydargh
11:18.08betraydancient
11:20.03AlexAnteMachinalol
11:20.26AlexAnteMachinahow about movin your ass to the next store?
11:20.28AlexAnteMachina;)
11:20.54betraydin fact the only time i booted with a stick was with a boot FLOPPY that pointed to the stick
11:21.28betraydwhat? 'When the going gets tough, the tough go shoppin'
11:21.36AlexAnteMachinaa better way is to get a BIOS update.
11:22.30AlexAnteMachinabetrayd, are you tough enough for shopping?
11:23.07betraydmy wallet isn't, it's all mangled as a matter of fact
11:23.28AlexAnteMachinanot enough for some CDs?
11:23.32AlexAnteMachinadamn. that's hard.
11:24.47betraydoh I thought you wanted to me to get new gear. Just a CD then? Wait this one says 700 some Megs
11:25.17AlexAnteMachinaCheck your BIOS-Manufacturers website for a upgradetool.
11:25.26betraydMaybe I can burn one tonight, on a CD
11:25.54betraydi was googling too
11:26.35AlexAnteMachinayou need to have a look at the support-website of the manufacturer.
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11:27.19AlexAnteMachinaAre you running some windows-version on that notebook?
11:27.52betraydno
11:29.50betraydyou were thinking of the windows version of unetbootin?
11:30.04keyrabetrayd: Do not use the default version of unetbootin, use the SPECIAL version of unetbootin for Elive: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) and http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-linux-latest (linux), it is recommended to use the Windows version
11:32.21AlexAnteMachinano, I thought about using some BIOS-upgrading-tool to make your BIOS boot from USB, too.
11:32.51AlexAnteMachinaThose tools mostly run on win only.
11:34.23betraydi haven't seen a single post about somebody successfully booting from USB on old thinkpads
11:34.37AlexAnteMachinadamn.
11:34.47AlexAnteMachinaso you#ll need to get some CDs.
11:35.11betraydnot a problem, I can still burn a CD later tonight
11:35.21AlexAnteMachinasure.
11:35.27AlexAnteMachinaIt won't run away.
11:35.34betraydalmost like 'I can't go out when there's some sun out'
11:35.51AlexAnteMachinahuh?
11:36.15betraydI work at night and that's when I do them all (errands and stuff)
11:36.35AlexAnteMachinaDamn!
11:36.46AlexAnteMachinaI workd nightshifts, too.
11:37.09AlexAnteMachinaFor over six years.
11:37.13betrayda little less stressful but then the food places are mostly closed
11:37.59AlexAnteMachinaI hate nightshift. It totally fucked up my biorhythm. That's why I had to quit.
11:39.44betraydhey, gtg kichen. Will be lurkin about tho. THanks for your help AlexAnteMachina
11:40.30AlexAnteMachinau r welcome, betrayd !
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14:06.09DammitJimhey guys
14:06.15DammitJimdo you remember the software that came with gem
14:06.21DammitJimwhere you could edit audio and video?
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14:11.57she_dyedAlexAnte it worked, I gave it one last try. The only thing I did NOT do was move the mouse, Elive is now installed on my Thinkpad
14:12.43she_dyed!
14:15.47she_dyedso the world cannot end tomorrow, since I have a new toy to play with. :-) Elive r00lz the desktop wasteland!
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16:49.53betraydhey AlexAnteMachina it worked, finally finished installing
16:50.02AlexAnteMachinayeah!
16:50.14AlexAnteMachinabetrayd, I love you!
16:50.24betraydYou know when the elitaire ccame up?
16:50.33betrayd<PROTECTED>
16:50.38AlexAnteMachinaThis ThinkPad doesnt have wifi, I guess!?
16:50.53betraydno but i have 2 cards and I know one of them works
16:50.57betraydwith elive
16:51.08AlexAnteMachinawith elive GEM?
16:51.12betraydyes
16:51.17AlexAnteMachinawow!
16:51.20betraydatmel driver when I was using it live
16:51.31betraydnot yet unwired
16:51.38betraydhad it do the updates
16:51.46betraydnot builtin
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16:51.57AlexAnteMachinawired connection is the best one can get!
16:52.12betraydsoon i will move to the living room heh heh
16:52.28betraydnow that it's done with updates
16:52.30AlexAnteMachinaIf it wont work try latest dev!
16:52.41AlexAnteMachinait's got MUCH MUCH better wifi-support.
16:52.42betraydi am tempted
16:52.51betraydbut wait!
16:53.09AlexAnteMachinadamn, I'm sitting on a chair! How could I wait??????
16:53.11betraydlatest dev, does it still use bootsplash or did it go splashy
16:53.24AlexAnteMachinahuh??? what?
16:53.38betraydyou know, when it boots you get a progreebar
16:53.50betraydprogessbar*
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16:54.28AlexAnteMachinasure.
16:54.49AlexAnteMachinato know the version of your Elive open the file:
16:54.55AlexAnteMachina/etc/elive-version
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16:55.21betraydwell what happened was, bootsplash was the old version and i think it ran in kernel
16:55.26Elive_user48hi
16:55.33AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user48
16:55.36betraydinstead of todays splashy which is userspace
16:55.58betraydhey Elive_user48
16:56.04AlexAnteMachinabetrayd, check the file I just told you to know what version you are running.
16:56.19betraydeliveinstaller?
16:56.29AlexAnteMachina/etc/elive-version
16:56.30betraydah dev-latest
16:56.33AlexAnteMachinathis one.
16:56.35betraydok
16:57.14betraydit's GEM alright one point oh
16:57.33betraydyou know where i can get some archived themes?
16:58.28betraydyou have a question Elive_user48?
16:58.35betraydor just hangin out
16:59.03AlexAnteMachinabetrayd, check out e17-stuff.org
17:01.29betraydalmost forgot about that
17:01.40betraydgood tip man cheers!
17:02.11AlexAnteMachinasure.
17:02.17AlexAnteMachinaIt came form me!
17:02.19AlexAnteMachina;)
17:02.23AlexAnteMachinaCheers!
17:02.29AlexAnteMachinaHave a beer, dude!
17:02.56betraydeven better man
17:03.05betraydI worked some extra days
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17:03.21betraydbut you know how I don't get time and a half for working extra?
17:03.26betraydthey make it up to me
17:03.41betraydwith a bottle of good ol Jack D
17:03.57AlexAnteMachinaduh
17:04.01AlexAnteMachinajack d...
17:04.07AlexAnteMachinawould kill my guts.
17:04.07betraydJack Daniels
17:04.22betraydso my coffee s been Irish past couple of days
17:04.28AlexAnteMachinalol
17:04.48AlexAnteMachinaI prefer beer.
17:05.02AlexAnteMachinaThat's more common here.
17:05.03betraydYup I know, anytime anywhere
17:05.05AlexAnteMachina:)
17:05.26betraydlove a cold one especially when there's a HW or SW prob
17:06.18betraydwhen I am helping someone out on the IRC, I always ask first, you have a cold one in the fridge :)
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17:06.36betraydI call that Plan B
17:07.05betraydif it doesn't work, you know where to go
17:07.24betraydheck if it works like today, time to celebrate right?
17:07.54AlexAnteMachinawhats HW or SW?
17:08.07betraydoh hardware or software
17:08.12AlexAnteMachinaoh... ghot it!
17:09.23betraydwhen you said grab latest dev, you're not talking about the compiz one are you
17:09.34betraydthat I have for my desktop
17:09.45AlexAnteMachinadepends on your HW
17:09.54betrayd(its got more power than the laptop but not that much)
17:10.13AlexAnteMachinak.
17:10.15betraydbut the card was capable
17:10.26AlexAnteMachinathen get the "normal" version.
17:10.31betraydnow to get BOTH monitors working, it only sees one
17:10.47AlexAnteMachinawhat GrfixCard?
17:10.47betraydhmmm, i want to show off to my vista-encumbered roommate
17:10.55betraydan nvidia
17:11.14AlexAnteMachinathere is a nvidia config-tool in the repos.
17:11.27AlexAnteMachinathat should make the 2nd screen work.
17:11.49betraydso before I do further tweaking, d/load that first?
17:12.09AlexAnteMachinawhat kind of twaekin r u talking bout?
17:12.38betraydi was copying a current X config to get the other screen going
17:12.57betraydbut it stayed only on one
17:12.58AlexAnteMachinanow does it work or not?
17:13.05betraydthat config tool might be easier
17:13.10betraydnot yet
17:13.19betraydi focused on the laptop first
17:13.39betraydalmost done, maybe check the wireless setup a bit later
17:15.28betraydwill be in the kitchen for a bit but will still hang around
17:15.29AlexAnteMachinaget the "nvidia-settings" package!
17:15.44betraydok
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17:20.36Elive_user45_enhello
17:20.46AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user45_en
17:20.52AlexAnteMachina???
17:35.16betraydanother 'Hi't n run
17:35.28betraydor drive by
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17:47.55AlexAnteMachinabetrayd, nvidia-settings works?
17:51.08betraydi think i'll work on it tonight, and iirc it's not the first time i've used it
17:51.25betraydi think i used it for mandriva previously and that works
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19:23.31DammitJimPrinceAMD,
19:23.36DammitJimare you there?
19:26.14DammitJimassasukasse, are you there?
19:26.32assasukasseDammitJim: yes just arrived
19:27.04DammitJimdude, do you know what kind of audio/video software elive used to come for editing?
19:27.11DammitJimI ripped the sound out of a video
19:27.15DammitJimnow I want to only get part of it
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19:44.23DammitJimwatchwolf, u there?
19:46.04DammitJimdid Elive used to come with audacity?
19:57.56PrinceAMDDammitJim, yes i am
19:58.01PrinceAMDDammitJim, what's up
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20:07.14DammitJimwhat was the name of the audio editing software that used to come with elive?
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20:18.05assasukasseDammitJim: here
20:18.11assasukasseu should use avidemux
20:18.26assasukassefor cutting or editing a video
20:18.32assasukasseor audacity for audio
20:26.06DammitJimavidemux? I think that was removed for the latest unstable.. thanks
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20:59.57assasukasseDammitJim: install it
21:00.02assasukasseaptitude install avidemux
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21:06.21DammitJimI got audacity downloaded and I think it worked
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22:07.55Itachiis away: Viendo NS
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22:52.25Itachialguien le a funcionato bien el "UnetBootin" cuando se quiere hacer un LiveUSB de Elive, desde el mismo Sistema Operativo ?
22:52.47Itachia mi no me funcione... :(
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