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| 00:21.58 | Elive_user3_en | proba |
| 00:22.06 | Elive_user3_en | me lee algien |
| 00:22.22 | Elive_user3_en | alguien por aqui, prueba |
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| 03:17.16 | Elive_user59_es | lol |
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| 04:29.06 | mathesis | se Thanatermesis |
| 04:29.32 | mathesis | tanto tiempo de no visitar este canal :) |
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| 11:08.15 | meborc | hello |
| 11:08.21 | meborc | anyone alive today |
| 11:08.23 | meborc | ? |
| 11:10.46 | meborc | Thanatermesis, you here? i have a problem related to screen lock |
| 11:11.00 | meborc | ctrl+alt+L used to lock the screen |
| 11:11.38 | meborc | but in recent development versions of elive i get an error: no PAM support was built in to enlightenment |
| 11:12.21 | meborc | i have messed around with my system quite a lot and i just need confirmation if it is working for someone else or not |
| 11:12.49 | meborc | assasukasse, hey... can you lock your screen with ctrl+alt+L ? |
| 11:16.43 | meborc | anyone? |
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| 11:40.16 | meborc | wasynyt, hey |
| 11:40.22 | meborc | how are you? |
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| 11:47.56 | meborc | oh... ok... i'm off |
| 11:48.00 | meborc | see you guys later |
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| 12:04.15 | Elive_user14 | en linea ? |
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| 13:24.39 | Thana` | elmo40, yes, very busy :) |
| 13:25.11 | DammitJim | Thana`, |
| 13:25.20 | Thana` | later tell meborc dont worry, will be fixed in the next update of e17 |
| 13:25.25 | Thana` | howdy DammitJim |
| 13:25.29 | DammitJim | lo arreglaron? |
| 13:25.59 | Thana` | que cosa ? |
| 13:26.07 | DammitJim | que van a arreglar en e17? |
| 13:27.27 | Thana` | nada |
| 13:27.31 | Thana` | deshabilité el desklock |
| 13:28.13 | DammitJim | desklock? |
| 13:28.14 | DammitJim | para que? |
| 13:28.16 | DammitJim | ;) |
| 13:30.47 | DammitJim | en serio, Thana` que paso con e17? |
| 13:31.02 | DammitJim | btw... me gusta que los modulos pueden ser puestos en cualquier lado... yo no sabia que se podia hacer eso |
| 13:32.49 | Thana` | que no pasó nada, loco xD |
| 13:33.08 | Thana` | ahora si, estuvo deshabilitado un buen tiempo :) |
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| 13:41.03 | DammitJim | wb Thanatermesis ... entonces? se viene un nuevo release? |
| 13:41.15 | DammitJim | porque este unstable no me funcionan los transparencies en el terminal ni xchat |
| 13:43.20 | Thanatermesis | claro que no |
| 13:43.22 | Thanatermesis | las he quitado |
| 13:43.28 | Thanatermesis | no estarán mas |
| 13:43.42 | DammitJim | nunca mas? |
| 13:43.46 | DammitJim | por que no? |
| 13:43.47 | Thanatermesis | nunca nunca mas |
| 13:43.47 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 13:43.58 | DammitJim | pero si eso era precioso |
| 13:44.04 | Thanatermesis | porque consume recursos para nada, no es transparencia real, solo un hack mal hecho |
| 13:44.07 | DammitJim | hay alguna otra manera para hacerlo? |
| 13:44.12 | DammitJim | miercoles |
| 13:44.18 | DammitJim | como le hacemos a la transparencia real |
| 13:44.22 | Thanatermesis | la terminal negra es mucho mas legible |
| 13:44.27 | Thanatermesis | no se puede |
| 13:44.27 | DammitJim | btw... muchas gracias por el manual de awk... ya soy un maestro :) |
| 13:44.29 | Thanatermesis | solo con la version compiz |
| 13:44.37 | Thanatermesis | ya te lo has leido entero ? |
| 13:44.40 | DammitJim | uta, pero compiz me hace bolsa |
| 13:44.48 | DammitJim | y claro pues... no ves que tenia que aprender |
| 13:44.53 | DammitJim | lei la mitad en un dia |
| 13:44.58 | DammitJim | y con un terminal al lado mio |
| 13:48.07 | Thanatermesis | viste que potente que es ? |
| 13:48.19 | DammitJim | muchisimo!!! |
| 13:48.22 | DammitJim | pero uno tiene que saber leer |
| 13:48.26 | DammitJim | porque o sino uno se confunde |
| 13:48.34 | Thanatermesis | claro |
| 13:48.42 | DammitJim | creo que si sigo utilizando awk para hacer cosas, voy a tener que usar lentes en algunos anos |
| 13:48.46 | DammitJim | y eso que yo ya tengo 33 anos |
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| 14:21.12 | meborc | guys |
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| 14:21.21 | meborc | assasukasse, hi |
| 14:21.58 | meborc | i just did my daily apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and i have 312 upgrades and 5 new installs |
| 14:21.59 | meborc | :D |
| 14:22.27 | meborc | WTF... usually i get 3-4 upgrades in a month MAX |
| 14:22.36 | meborc | :) |
| 14:22.49 | meborc | i don't even know if i dare to upgrade now... |
| 14:23.12 | DammitJim | what happened? |
| 14:23.12 | meborc | Thanatermesis, hi |
| 14:23.18 | meborc | nothing :) |
| 14:23.29 | meborc | i have not changed the sources.list file |
| 14:23.41 | meborc | i have done upgrades every week |
| 14:23.46 | DammitJim | don't do it |
| 14:23.48 | DammitJim | wait |
| 14:23.53 | meborc | DammitJim, you have upgrades as well? |
| 14:24.11 | meborc | are we switching to debian testing new? |
| 14:24.12 | DammitJim | is doing it now |
| 14:24.13 | meborc | :D |
| 14:24.28 | DammitJim | oh yeah.. something is up.. it's taking too long |
| 14:24.34 | meborc | weeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 14:24.40 | meborc | finally... |
| 14:24.49 | meborc | new repo... |
| 14:24.49 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, must have updated the repos or something |
| 14:24.50 | DammitJim | lol |
| 14:24.58 | meborc | i'm so happy right now... |
| 14:25.06 | meborc | i just hope nothing will break |
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| 14:25.18 | meborc | AlexAnteMachina, yeeee |
| 14:25.30 | AlexAnteMachina | hi meborc |
| 14:25.40 | meborc | AlexAnteMachina, you upgraded yet? |
| 14:25.40 | Thanatermesis | <meborc> i just did my daily apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and i have 312 upgrades and 5 new installs |
| 14:25.42 | Thanatermesis | big updates, yes :) |
| 14:25.52 | meborc | weeeeeee, THANK YOU |
| 14:26.01 | Thanatermesis | i have just sinced all the packages of debian to the stable version of debian |
| 14:26.10 | meborc | are we switching to sqweeze (or whatever is it called) |
| 14:26.21 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, did I tell you I've been running 2.6.27.10? |
| 14:26.33 | Thanatermesis | meborc, not yet, first Elive needs to release his stable version |
| 14:26.54 | meborc | Thanatermesis, ok... again THANK YOU... you are the MAN :) |
| 14:27.03 | meborc | today, drinks on me... party at my house |
| 14:27.11 | DammitJim | where do you live? |
| 14:27.14 | meborc | is it safe to upgrade right now? |
| 14:27.19 | meborc | stockholm, sweden |
| 14:27.24 | DammitJim | i'm there |
| 14:27.30 | meborc | hehe |
| 14:27.43 | meborc | i have rum and vodka and vana-tallinn... |
| 14:27.46 | AlexAnteMachina | sweden is pretty close. |
| 14:27.46 | DammitJim | I have a good friend of mine from high school that lives there |
| 14:27.47 | elmo40 | wow, 108mb of upgrades (mainly kernel stuff that i dont need) Thanatermesis, no new elpanel yet? ;) |
| 14:28.04 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, ill try! ill try ! |
| 14:28.11 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, i have only two hands |
| 14:28.12 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 14:28.12 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, is there anything good in the upgrade? otherwise, I won't upgrade |
| 14:28.20 | meborc | guys...the main question is IS IT SAFE to upgrade right now? |
| 14:28.23 | Thanatermesis | working at the same time :) |
| 14:28.35 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, of course, updates to debian stable |
| 14:28.44 | elmo40 | i only see acpi and module upgrades. what is wrong with that? |
| 14:28.45 | DammitJim | what do you mean updates to debian stable? |
| 14:28.47 | Thanatermesis | meborc, should be :) |
| 14:28.48 | lib8264q | hello all :) |
| 14:28.48 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, we could cut off one. That would make the choice more easy. |
| 14:28.49 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 14:28.50 | DammitJim | I thought this is unstable |
| 14:29.17 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, debian lenny, actual release of debian stable |
| 14:29.22 | Thanatermesis | hi lib8264q |
| 14:29.33 | lib8264q | :) |
| 14:29.43 | DammitJim | is going to have to read up on this... |
| 14:29.47 | DammitJim | so, lenny is becoming stable? |
| 14:29.54 | meborc | DammitJim, come on... unstable??? some of the program versions in the repos are 2-3 years old |
| 14:29.58 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, IS |
| 14:30.02 | meborc | lenny IS stable |
| 14:30.09 | meborc | like a month ago |
| 14:30.11 | DammitJim | LOL... but it is formally going to be named stable? |
| 14:30.24 | meborc | it is already named stable |
| 14:30.26 | DammitJim | Debian 5.0? |
| 14:30.30 | meborc | YWS |
| 14:30.33 | meborc | yes * |
| 14:30.39 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ |
| 14:30.40 | keyra | DammitJim: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 14:30.48 | DammitJim | shut up keyra |
| 14:30.52 | meborc | Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.0 was released February 14th, 2009 |
| 14:30.58 | lib8264q | is it possible to install the compize desktop via apt anyway ? |
| 14:31.03 | keyra | DammitJim: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis |
| 14:31.11 | DammitJim | got it |
| 14:31.13 | meborc | keyra, titts |
| 14:31.27 | keyra | meborc: My titts aren't that great... but I have the ass of the century, search in google "keyra agustina" ;) |
| 14:31.30 | DammitJim | meborc, don't be asking her those questions.. shemight give it to you |
| 14:31.37 | meborc | i am just so happy... |
| 14:31.41 | meborc | sweeeeet |
| 14:31.54 | meborc | ok... guys... have to concentrate on my master thesis now... |
| 14:32.07 | meborc | i will upgrade and let you know if i borked something |
| 14:32.09 | meborc | c |
| 14:32.10 | meborc | u |
| 14:32.12 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, so, when are we having a formal Elive Stable release? |
| 14:32.45 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, there's a lot of things remaining to do actually, fixes, features that needs to be implemented or finished.. etc |
| 14:32.55 | Thanatermesis | you can see the bugs website for a small part of a list |
| 14:32.56 | DammitJim | for elive or debian? |
| 14:33.02 | Thanatermesis | the rest is in TODO's and xpad's and etc |
| 14:33.10 | Thanatermesis | there's more than 100 points to modify in the installer |
| 14:33.28 | meborc | Thanatermesis, is the screen lock feature missing in elive right now? i get an error when i try to ctrl+alt+L |
| 14:33.46 | Thanatermesis | meborc, yes, i have disabled it, you will have it again in the next e17 update |
| 14:33.52 | meborc | sweeeet |
| 14:33.58 | Thanatermesis | the problem is... this update broke python-efl, that is required by net-connector |
| 14:34.13 | DammitJim | oh no |
| 14:34.20 | Thanatermesis | by other side, net-connector not works very good and has not a maintainer, the author (linuxnit) has no more time for it (work, etc) |
| 14:34.22 | DammitJim | is that done with awk? maybe I can help |
| 14:34.24 | lib8264q | any way to install the compiz desktop via apt ... ??? (iv installer problem) posted problem in forum |
| 14:34.31 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, no, python |
| 14:34.46 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, give me the link to that problem with the installer |
| 14:34.47 | DammitJim | python... that's a little harder... |
| 14:35.15 | lib8264q | sure thankyou for you time it would be appreciated |
| 14:35.50 | lib8264q | http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?4,2771 |
| 14:35.53 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, update everything, then install package e17-compiz, reboot, then after to login in e17 run the command "postinstall-user" |
| 14:37.09 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, i dont understand... what is the exact prblem with the installer ? and you can install the normal version ? |
| 14:39.01 | lib8264q | iv tried this cd in normal mode as well:S still same |
| 14:40.01 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, ok, and what's the exact problem ? why not install ? |
| 14:41.25 | lib8264q | goes through installer transferes files after checking cd get to about 80-90% in most cases (with no error messagees) then a message pops up saying not enough free space to install that it needds a minimum of 3gb to install please report this if you have ... |
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| 14:42.22 | lib8264q | iv been trying any an all combinations to try and get round this but no luck |
| 14:42.36 | meborc | and you have 3 gig free space? |
| 14:42.57 | lib8264q | 70+ gb nothing else on the box |
| 14:43.09 | meborc | ok... how did you create the partitions? |
| 14:43.32 | lib8264q | sad1 as root sda2 as swap ... thast it |
| 14:43.46 | lib8264q | used 2gb for swap |
| 14:44.36 | lib8264q | and yes i did chooes sda1 lol |
| 14:44.42 | lib8264q | choose* |
| 14:44.49 | meborc | that is odd... i have never had any problems with that installer... have been installing elive development on many different machines |
| 14:45.34 | lib8264q | theres a lot of clever people here (Y) just im not one of them lol |
| 14:45.47 | meborc | that is the elive-compiz version? or normal elive? |
| 14:45.54 | lib8264q | compiz |
| 14:46.13 | lib8264q | but it works perfectly on the box in live mode |
| 14:46.43 | lib8264q | not a single warning comes up when in use |
| 14:47.29 | lib8264q | so i know its something IM not doing that i should be ... but just dont what |
| 14:47.35 | meborc | really sorry to hear that... i just read your forum post... i have never had problems like these |
| 14:47.37 | meborc | :( |
| 14:48.28 | lib8264q | np ... its a lovley desktop im not aht experienced in .nix but im pretty long in the tooth as far as comps go |
| 14:48.29 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, ok, so then report this bug to http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 14:48.31 | Thanatermesis | not the forum |
| 14:48.36 | lib8264q | have |
| 14:48.43 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 14:48.52 | Thanatermesis | give me the link tot he bug report when you have it |
| 14:49.15 | lib8264q | its pretty basic info less than whats in post |
| 14:50.27 | Thanatermesis | yes, there's no need more info than this :) |
| 14:50.46 | meborc | Thanatermesis, there is a problem during the bug upgrade... :( "configuring linux-image-2.6.26.8-elive-686" STOP install since kernel-image is already installed? |
| 14:50.58 | lib8264q | http://bugs.elivecd.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=376&string=install&project=2&type%5B0%5D=&sev%5B0%5D=&pri%5B0%5D=&due%5B0%5D=&reported%5B0%5D=&cat%5B0%5D=&status%5B0%5D=open&percent%5B0%5D=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto= |
| 14:51.00 | keyra | meborc: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 14:51.17 | meborc | Thanatermesis, should i stop the install or let it overwrite it? |
| 14:51.36 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, can you do a new install now ? |
| 14:51.42 | elmo40 | lib8264q: have you never heard of qurl.org ? |
| 14:51.55 | Thanatermesis | you should not stop the install |
| 14:52.06 | Thanatermesis | that should be not asked... mmmh |
| 14:52.13 | Thanatermesis | if you stop, you can't boot lol |
| 14:52.46 | meborc | no, it says if i stop now, nothing is changed... it is a GUI thing... asking to stop or not |
| 14:53.01 | lib8264q | not right away .. would need a few mins to fire it up ... to be honest i went as far as replacing hdd to smaeer one (spare) just incase was a problem with the hdd but still same |
| 14:53.17 | lib8264q | ill certianly try |
| 14:53.52 | Thanatermesis | if you stop, you can't boot lol |
| 14:54.13 | meborc | ok Thanatermesis, if i have to reinstall, i will blame you :) |
| 14:54.23 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: what about 2.6.27.10-elive-686 ? no module upgrades for that? |
| 14:54.26 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, not replace the disk, it is a simple bug that should be fixed, but i need your test since i can't reproduce it here |
| 14:54.37 | keyra | elmo40: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 14:54.59 | Thanatermesis | meborc, if you STOP installing this kernel, but your modules are installed (upgraded), you will have a incompatible modules because a different kernel |
| 14:55.03 | Thanatermesis | that's the thing |
| 14:55.29 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, its in the repos but i dont maintain it, i will switch to a newer one in the future, or remain on this old kernel :) |
| 14:55.32 | meborc | Thanatermesis, just so you can give me a green light : http://pastebin.com/m42e97103 |
| 14:55.34 | meborc | :) |
| 14:55.39 | meborc | please |
| 14:56.01 | lib8264q | np ... it will be same result with disk so should get answer (hopefully) lol |
| 14:56.14 | lib8264q | or a possible solution |
| 14:57.09 | Thanatermesis | meborc, i know what is that, i have say to continue it, not stop it |
| 14:57.14 | Thanatermesis | disable the "stop" checkbox |
| 14:57.30 | meborc | why is there a newer version of the kernel without a new number anyway? |
| 14:57.34 | meborc | i continued :) |
| 14:57.42 | meborc | i will reboot soon |
| 14:57.54 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, i can solve your problem and this bug if you do a new install and follow my steps |
| 14:57.58 | Thanatermesis | in order to solve it |
| 14:58.17 | Thanatermesis | meborc, just package version |
| 14:58.28 | Thanatermesis | meborc, patches, etc |
| 14:58.39 | meborc | ok, thanks |
| 14:58.42 | meborc | :) |
| 14:59.27 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, with the disk that give you problems, not a different one |
| 15:04.18 | Thanatermesis | lib8264q, i need to go out in 1 hour, so you should be fast :) |
| 15:04.24 | Thanatermesis | or then do it tomorrow |
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| 15:08.54 | elmo40 | hope none of you live in Australia! http://qurl.org/PY0 |
| 15:10.53 | lib8264q | ill do it tomorrow (sons just arrived with grandchild) what would be best time if any that suits .. (to maby get help) |
| 15:11.10 | Thanatermesis | ok, so then ping me here tomorrow when you are ready |
| 15:11.32 | lib8264q | cool once again your time would be appreciated |
| 15:11.50 | lib8264q | ty .. |
| 15:11.59 | Thanatermesis | np :) thank you to you for report the bug |
| 15:12.13 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
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| 15:18.04 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: how have you been? your health, local weather, the pet (dog?cat?) ;) |
| 15:19.29 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, not bad, a bit busy these days, also, im moving to another appartment for the next month, and im not sure how i can solve the internet thingy :) |
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| 15:21.25 | Thanatermesis | meborc, aparently net-connector not works with the update :P |
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| 15:21.42 | meborc | Thanatermesis, yeah, i just came here to report it :) |
| 15:21.48 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 15:21.59 | Thanatermesis | well, let's see what we can do for this night |
| 15:22.01 | meborc | fortunately i know how to use iwconfig manually |
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| 15:22.08 | Thanatermesis | that's good :) |
| 15:22.17 | Thanatermesis | or you can use wicd temporally |
| 15:22.36 | meborc | NO... pure elive is the only way for me :) |
| 15:23.07 | meborc | if there is no maintainer for net-connector... would you consider moving to wicd? |
| 15:26.53 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 15:27.00 | Thanatermesis | very possible to (new) exalt |
| 15:27.03 | Thanatermesis | i need to try it first |
| 15:27.07 | Thanatermesis | and needs to be a bit more finished |
| 15:27.21 | Thanatermesis | or that somebody with python knowledge's fixes it :) |
| 15:27.43 | meborc | so i have to learn python... oh well... :) |
| 15:28.02 | meborc | i have to check this exalt thing out some day |
| 15:28.57 | DammitJim | python isn't that hard... you just need to seat down and do it, that's all |
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| 15:46.46 | stilldre | Thanatermesis: are you there? |
| 15:47.15 | stilldre | well |
| 15:47.28 | stilldre | how can i get an elive-gem image? |
| 15:47.38 | stilldre | the stable one |
| 15:48.03 | meborc | you can download it from the website |
| 15:48.09 | meborc | if you donate a bit |
| 15:48.13 | meborc | www.elivecd.org |
| 15:48.24 | meborc | but why would you use elive stable? |
| 15:48.37 | meborc | it is old... the new version is much better |
| 15:48.49 | stilldre | well i'm organizing a install festa here at my city |
| 15:49.01 | meborc | and soon there will be next stable released |
| 15:49.11 | stilldre | it's a small town of northeast brasil |
| 15:49.31 | meborc | i would go with elive-compiz development... lot of eyecandy... people will love it |
| 15:49.47 | stilldre | so i'm having problems with the developement version's installer |
| 15:49.55 | meborc | oh... |
| 15:50.02 | stilldre | it just doesn't finishes the installation |
| 15:50.13 | meborc | how long does it take? |
| 15:50.27 | meborc | does the cd-check finish properly? |
| 15:50.29 | stilldre | well not much |
| 15:50.33 | stilldre | yes |
| 15:50.47 | stilldre | i'm using the cd image inside a usbstick |
| 15:50.57 | meborc | what do you mean by it does not finish the installation? |
| 15:50.58 | stilldre | and trying to install it to another usbstick |
| 15:51.01 | keyra | stilldre: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
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| 15:51.21 | stilldre | well |
| 15:51.22 | meborc | oh... usb-sticks are not my fiela |
| 15:51.25 | meborc | field... |
| 15:51.29 | stilldre | =( |
| 15:51.31 | meborc | ask Thanatermesis, he is back |
| 15:52.03 | stilldre | Thanatermesis: i'm having problems with the elive developement's installer |
| 15:52.20 | Thanatermesis | stilldre, which problem ? |
| 15:52.33 | stilldre | well the installation simply crashes... |
| 15:52.56 | stilldre | well i'm at another linux box right now |
| 15:53.14 | stilldre | but i'll switch to elive so i can tell you exactly whats happening |
| 15:53.20 | stilldre | can you wait a bit? |
| 15:53.46 | stilldre | go go go |
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| 16:01.19 | stilldre | well |
| 16:01.40 | stilldre | Thanatermesis, i`m here |
| 16:01.56 | stilldre | i`ll try to install it to another usbstick right now |
| 16:02.11 | keyra | stilldre: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
| 16:02.16 | stilldre | selected advanced mode |
| 16:02.29 | stilldre | gparted |
| 16:03.13 | stilldre | /dev/sdb1 choosen |
| 16:03.44 | stilldre | partition to install: /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:03.51 | stilldre | about 16GB |
| 16:05.24 | AlexAnteMachina | hi stilldre |
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| 16:12.03 | stilldre | well |
| 16:12.18 | stilldre | i did not got the congratulations message.. |
| 16:12.21 | stilldre | =( |
| 16:13.19 | AlexAnteMachina | Congratulations, stilldre! You are in Purgatory. You may be here because you have done something wrong..... |
| 16:13.33 | AlexAnteMachina | somethin like that??? |
| 16:13.43 | stilldre | actually yes |
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| 16:13.48 | stilldre | something like that |
| 16:14.03 | AlexAnteMachina | well, that's cool. |
| 16:14.08 | AlexAnteMachina | Hell would be worse. |
| 16:14.10 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 16:14.15 | stilldre | =) |
| 16:15.31 | AlexAnteMachina | Wellcome to Hell. You are here because you may have done something wrong. Now sit back and relax. You have all the time of the world..... |
| 16:16.27 | AlexAnteMachina | stilldre, what have you done? |
| 16:16.52 | stilldre | well first i thought that it would be something like pentoo, just copy the image contents make some adjustments install grub and it`s done |
| 16:17.04 | AlexAnteMachina | ?? |
| 16:17.21 | stilldre | but it could not read the grub`s stage 1 file |
| 16:17.24 | AlexAnteMachina | sounds like you wanna create some installabel usb-device |
| 16:17.27 | stilldre | well dunno why |
| 16:17.32 | stilldre | yes |
| 16:17.32 | AlexAnteMachina | get unetbootin! |
| 16:17.37 | stilldre | wel |
| 16:17.39 | stilldre | well |
| 16:17.47 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: Do not use the default version of unetbootin, use the SPECIAL version of unetbootin for Elive: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) and http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-linux-latest (linux), it is recommended to use the Windows version |
| 16:17.51 | stilldre | unetbootin did it for me |
| 16:18.05 | stilldre | but its likde some livecd read-only image |
| 16:18.06 | AlexAnteMachina | so, what's wrong then? |
| 16:18.14 | AlexAnteMachina | sure. |
| 16:18.22 | stilldre | so i can`t install new programs at it |
| 16:18.40 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... so you've been aiming on installing it to such a usb-device. |
| 16:18.42 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. |
| 16:19.04 | meborc | stilldre, unetbootin creates a live-cd like usb... not a installation |
| 16:19.06 | AlexAnteMachina | that should be working like a normal install. |
| 16:19.16 | meborc | afaik |
| 16:19.19 | keyra | meborc: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
| 16:19.25 | AlexAnteMachina | meborc is right. |
| 16:19.30 | meborc | apt kill keyra |
| 16:19.31 | apt | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged fluxproton gun at keyra |
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| 16:21.46 | stilldre | well |
| 16:22.04 | stilldre | sorry about leaving like this but the machine just froze |
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| 16:22.09 | stilldre | so |
| 16:22.17 | stilldre | AlexAnteMachina, well |
| 16:22.30 | stilldre | i`m really trying what you said |
| 16:22.30 | AlexAnteMachina | stilldre, but your install did not work. |
| 16:22.31 | meborc | you guys give me a headache jumping on-off-on-off |
| 16:22.33 | AlexAnteMachina | I guess. |
| 16:22.44 | stilldre | AlexAnteMachina, bullseye |
| 16:22.51 | AlexAnteMachina | was just rebooting after this HUGHE upgrade. |
| 16:23.09 | meborc | AlexAnteMachina, you got your net-connector still working after upgrade? |
| 16:23.37 | AlexAnteMachina | seems like... and is proofed by me being online. |
| 16:23.39 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 16:24.11 | stilldre | AlexAnteMachina, what would you suggest for me? |
| 16:24.15 | AlexAnteMachina | btw: is there a reason to accept the reinstallation of the actual elive-kernel? |
| 16:24.17 | meborc | wierd... mine died :) gave no interfaces after boot... had to use iwconfig |
| 16:24.29 | stilldre | how can i install it aiming the usbstick? |
| 16:24.42 | AlexAnteMachina | Normally it should be working, yes. |
| 16:24.43 | keyra | stilldre: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
| 16:24.56 | AlexAnteMachina | it's nothing else than a memory. |
| 16:24.58 | meborc | AlexAnteMachina, well... Thanatermesis said it is because batches and stuff... |
| 16:25.29 | AlexAnteMachina | the system wont care wethere this memeory is hdd or sd or whatever. |
| 16:25.42 | AlexAnteMachina | ah, okay meborc |
| 16:25.57 | stilldre | AlexAnteMachina, what can i have done wrong? |
| 16:26.11 | AlexAnteMachina | got no clue |
| 16:26.35 | stilldre | won`t give up |
| 16:26.57 | meborc | i would use hdd instead... just to check you can install it from the usb... |
| 16:27.05 | meborc | then try the usb - usb thing |
| 16:27.13 | stilldre | AlexAnteMachina, but anyway is there a chance i get an stable download invitation? |
| 16:27.14 | AlexAnteMachina | yo! |
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| 16:27.42 | stilldre | Thanatermesis, help me |
| 16:27.53 | stilldre | lol |
| 16:29.27 | stilldre | i just can`t install the dev`s version aiming another usbstick |
| 16:29.39 | AlexAnteMachina | stilldre, why is that? |
| 16:30.25 | stilldre | AlexAnteMachina, well, idunno |
| 16:30.35 | AlexAnteMachina | any errormessages? |
| 16:30.38 | meborc | stilldre, you think elive GEM will do that? it is veeeery old... and the installation from unetbootin->usb->usb will still be the same procedure |
| 16:30.48 | stilldre | AlexAnteMachina, i`m following every steps the installer give me |
| 16:30.52 | keyra | meborc: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
| 16:31.24 | AlexAnteMachina | stilldre, then open a terminal, become root and type in eliveinstaller |
| 16:31.29 | stilldre | ok |
| 16:32.21 | AlexAnteMachina | this will start the exact same installer, but in the terminal you can monitor every single step and read errormessages in case there are some. |
| 16:33.10 | stilldre | right |
| 16:33.15 | stilldre | i`ll try it |
| 16:33.35 | AlexAnteMachina | we believe in you, stilldre |
| 16:33.54 | stilldre | flattered |
| 16:33.56 | stilldre | =) |
| 16:34.58 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 16:35.17 | stilldre | [root /home/eliveuser]# eliveinstaller |
| 16:35.17 | stilldre | D: Start installer |
| 16:35.17 | stilldre | Date builded: '2009-02-07', Date actual: 2009-03-24 |
| 16:35.33 | stilldre | then nothing happens... |
| 16:35.43 | stilldre | but i`ll not giving up so easily |
| 16:36.10 | stilldre | i`ll go for luch then i`ll return quickly |
| 16:36.23 | stilldre | is away: be right back |
| 16:36.28 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
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| 16:49.48 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: moving, different country? |
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| 17:10.12 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, your last upgrade killed net-connector. |
| 17:10.29 | meborc | he knows |
| 17:10.36 | AlexAnteMachina | oh. okay. |
| 17:10.40 | meborc | :) |
| 17:11.03 | meborc | he promised to work on it... so maybe some more updates later |
| 17:12.05 | meborc | ok, off to home... |
| 17:12.09 | meborc | need to relax a bit |
| 17:12.21 | meborc | this thesis stuff is killing me |
| 17:12.25 | meborc | see you guys later |
| 17:12.34 | AlexAnteMachina | smell you later! |
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| 17:34.12 | elmo40 | AlexAnteMachina: can you still get online? ;) |
| 17:34.56 | AlexAnteMachina | with gem, yes. |
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| 17:53.34 | Daemonz | does somebody know how to remove an older version of glib ? |
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| 18:03.20 | elmo40 | Daemonz: remove? cant you apt-get remove? |
| 18:10.16 | Daemonz | elmo40, no i don't think so |
| 18:11.30 | Daemonz | I tried to remove the GLIB 2.0.0 but it can't find the package |
| 18:12.24 | elmo40 | libglib2.0-0 ? |
| 18:12.31 | elmo40 | it isnt just 'glib' ;) |
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| 18:14.15 | nicamy | bonsoir tout le monde: on s'exprime en français ou en anglais ici? |
| 18:14.36 | elmo40 | les deux. |
| 18:14.41 | elmo40 | but mainly engrish :P |
| 18:14.57 | nicamy | merci, euh tanx |
| 18:15.56 | nicamy | i'm new on elive and want to find transparency for the terminal, any idea? |
| 18:19.02 | elmo40 | sometimes it works. depends on many faactors... video card is the main issue. |
| 18:19.33 | nicamy | ok, but how to try? |
| 18:19.33 | phoenix__| | nicamy: you need to use the bling module |
| 18:20.43 | nicamy | bling is already activated |
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| 18:21.25 | phoenix__| | tu utilise quel terminal ? rxvt ? |
| 18:21.39 | nicamy | oui |
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| 18:21.58 | phoenix__| | hum, il faut le lancer avec des options à la con |
| 18:22.57 | nicamy | du genre (par principe j'ai rien contre la connerie si elle apporte des solutions ;)? |
| 18:23.18 | phoenix__| | genre : |
| 18:23.20 | phoenix__| | urxvt -depth 32 -fg grey90 -bg rgba:0000/0000/0000/dddd |
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| 18:24.39 | Daemonz | Merci il a beaucoup de francophone ici |
| 18:24.50 | phoenix__| | oui, en effet |
| 18:25.02 | elmo40 | ~elmo40 |
| 18:25.03 | apt | well, elmo40 is a canuck of estonian descent, and the master of nick completion |
| 18:25.48 | meborc | elmo eestlane? |
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| 18:26.54 | elmo40 | yes |
| 18:26.57 | elmo40 | oui |
| 18:27.10 | meborc | elmo40, eesti keelt räägid? |
| 18:27.12 | elmo40 | jaa |
| 18:27.20 | nicamy | mouais, ou j'ai pas saisie ou c'est plus complexe: urxvt -depth 32 -fg grey90 -bg rgba:0000/0000/0000/dddd |
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| 18:27.44 | meborc | elmo40, hea teada, et vähemalt 2 eestlast kasutavad elive'i :) ma mõtlesin, et olen ainuke |
| 18:28.32 | elmo40 | meborc: i live in Canada :) |
| 18:28.36 | elmo40 | eesti background |
| 18:28.50 | keyra | elmo40: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 18:29.27 | meborc | elmo40, i live in sweden... but i'm finishing my studies, so i will be moving soon |
| 18:29.32 | meborc | where, noone knows yet |
| 18:29.33 | elmo40 | meborc: there is also a Finn that uses Elive. |
| 18:29.37 | meborc | yeah |
| 18:29.39 | meborc | wasynyt |
| 18:30.03 | phoenix__| | bah nicamy, tu lance la commande que je t'ai donné |
| 18:30.25 | nicamy | oui oui c bien ce que j'ai fait.... |
| 18:30.30 | phoenix__| | et ça fait quoi ? |
| 18:30.34 | meborc | elmo40, if Thanatermesis keeps up the good work, a lot more people will be using it |
| 18:30.38 | meborc | :) |
| 18:31.34 | elmo40 | meborc: does the EE language work? |
| 18:31.39 | elmo40 | i have not tried ;) |
| 18:32.42 | nicamy | ça fait: "depth32": unknown or malformed option |
| 18:33.12 | nicamy | "br": idem |
| 18:33.12 | phoenix__| | arf |
| 18:33.22 | phoenix__| | o_O |
| 18:33.24 | phoenix__| | étrange |
| 18:33.37 | nicamy | rgba: malformed option |
| 18:33.49 | phoenix__| | et rxvt -depth 32 -fg grey90 -bg rgba:0000/0000/0000/dddd ? |
| 18:35.03 | phoenix__| | bon, je reboot |
| 18:35.05 | phoenix__| | je re |
| 18:35.20 | nicamy | ah oui là c bon!!!! |
| 18:35.27 | nicamy | trop fort |
| 18:35.30 | nicamy | merci |
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| 18:40.57 | meborc | elmo40, sorry... i was away... "ee" language works perfectly... |
| 18:41.38 | meborc | there is a bug in elive, when you change language to "estonian" it changes language in xorg.conf to "et" not "ee" resulting in FAIL |
| 18:42.10 | meborc | Thanatermesis, does not think it is inportant, since there are only 2 estonians using elive... you and me :) |
| 18:44.33 | meborc | elmo40, can you check bug FS#231 in bugs.elivecd.org... and comment/confirm it? maybe things will get moving then |
| 18:47.14 | AlexAnteMachina | meborc, I guess it's been a hoax by thana |
| 18:48.06 | meborc | yeah... |
| 18:48.22 | meborc | i was locked out of my machine the first time i tried that |
| 18:48.45 | meborc | i tried to change the language back, but could not type my password.... :) |
| 18:49.05 | meborc | so i had to change it back manually from xorg.conf |
| 18:49.15 | elmo40 | meborc: >_< |
| 18:49.22 | meborc | AlexAnteMachina, can you try and confirm it? |
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| 18:49.33 | meborc | maybe Thanatermesis will take me seriously then :) |
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| 18:49.48 | meborc | just be sure to make a xorg.conf backup first |
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| 18:49.57 | meborc | wow |
| 18:50.02 | meborc | new users :) |
| 18:50.06 | meborc | welcome |
| 18:50.13 | meborc | or, goodbye ;) |
| 18:51.42 | AlexAnteMachina | meborc, how about writing a bug-report? |
| 18:51.56 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 18:52.31 | elmo40 | he did |
| 18:52.53 | meborc | http://bugs.elivecd.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=231 AlexAnteMachina, this is the report |
| 18:53.52 | meborc | i opened it on 14th of september last year :( |
| 18:54.12 | meborc | maybe if we get 1 more estonian to use elive |
| 18:54.27 | meborc | then Thanatermesis will consider us a "majority" :) |
| 18:54.55 | meborc | for me, the bug is not important... but for a possible new user... it is fatal |
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| 19:10.16 | meborc | ok, off to play some Savage2 :) |
| 19:10.18 | meborc | see |
| 19:10.19 | meborc | you |
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| 22:03.26 | Elive_user79 | hola |
| 22:03.29 | Elive_user79 | soy nuevo |
| 22:03.40 | keyra | Elive_user79: que tal ? |
| 22:03.52 | Elive_user79 | bien aca probando este s.o |
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| 22:19.24 | Tenshi | Hola |
| 22:24.56 | Tenshi | que programa puedo usar para hacer un LiveDVD del Elive instalado en el disco duro ? |
| 22:24.57 | Tenshi | es que me gustaria llevarlo conmigo a todas partes... para no tener que usar otro system |
| 22:31.03 | Tenshi | Bueno olvidenlo... seguire buscando, solo espero hacer lo que quiero sea correcto :) |
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| 23:07.53 | DaRtHo | keyra, i love you |
| 23:08.01 | DaRtHo | keyra, :( |
| 23:08.08 | keyra | DaRtHo: really ? 8) |
| 23:08.15 | DaRtHo | keyra, of course :) |
| 23:09.56 | Tenshi | DaRtHo también tienes Elive ? |
| 23:09.56 | DaRtHo | Tenshi, claros |
| 23:10.04 | Tenshi | xDD |
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