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| 04:46.37 | Elive_user40_en | hi I have a question about LinNeighborhood |
| 04:48.44 | Elive_user40_en | I can't seem to get it for Elive 1.9 |
| 04:48.55 | Elive_user40_en | sorry for elive current verion |
| 05:05.48 | elmo40 | skype works on linux, just grab the .deb file... dont people know this? |
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| 07:13.04 | wasynyt | good morning people |
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| 08:25.02 | wasynyt_eee | good morning people |
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| 12:20.20 | wasynyt_eee | good afternoon people |
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| 12:36.19 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
| 12:37.47 | AlexAnteMachina | howdy wasynyt |
| 12:39.08 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, ? |
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| 12:48.52 | Elive_user13_en | http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoDevelopWithEFL don't exist |
| 12:55.10 | wasynyt_eee | good afternoon AlexAnteMachina |
| 13:00.18 | Elive_user13_en | hello |
| 13:00.24 | Elive_user13_en | the nereleaseof elive-compi |
| 13:00.30 | Elive_user13_en | i don't find ecsm? |
| 13:00.37 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt_eee |
| 13:00.40 | AlexAnteMachina | hi Elive_user13_en |
| 13:01.49 | wasynyt_eee | how are you doing AlexAnteMachina and Elive_user13_en |
| 13:01.54 | AlexAnteMachina | fine |
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| 13:02.03 | wasynyt_eee | good afternoon OpenSpace |
| 13:02.32 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, it seems like Elive_user13_en is another victim of the upgrade-bug. |
| 13:02.33 | OpenSpace | good afternoon wasynyt_eee and others |
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| 13:03.19 | AlexAnteMachina | hi OpenSpace |
| 13:03.33 | Elive_user38_es | xanderlinux |
| 13:04.29 | AlexAnteMachina | "Spacedog is fighting Crime in OpenSpace! Spacedog!...... but there's no Crime in OpenSpace!" |
| 13:04.32 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 13:04.50 | xanderLinux | yer |
| 13:04.52 | xanderLinux | yes |
| 13:04.53 | Elive_user13_en | AlexAnteMachina, what bug? |
| 13:05.14 | AlexAnteMachina | did you install elive-compiz and upgrade it? |
| 13:05.20 | Elive_user13_en | AlexAnteMachina, i use the live cd of the elive-compiz 1.9.25 |
| 13:05.29 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 13:05.56 | wasynyt_eee | it seems that the issue is about a missing application |
| 13:05.59 | wasynyt_eee | :/ |
| 13:06.00 | Elive_user13_en | AlexAnteMachina, i just try the liveCd but if he is work great i install |
| 13:06.11 | Elive_user13_en | but u tell me have a bug on this version? |
| 13:06.24 | wasynyt_eee | be warned that there is a possible bug in the current release |
| 13:06.37 | Elive_user13_en | what is the bug? |
| 13:06.50 | wasynyt_eee | that when certain packages are upgraded the compiz will stop working |
| 13:07.09 | AlexAnteMachina | oh! I just notice there is a new iso of elive-compiz! |
| 13:07.29 | Elive_user13_en | wasynyt_eee, with the new releaee ? |
| 13:07.30 | wasynyt_eee | nice |
| 13:07.35 | Elive_user13_en | or the old |
| 13:07.38 | Elive_user13_en | i don't understand |
| 13:07.40 | wasynyt_eee | not the older one |
| 13:07.41 | AlexAnteMachina | released 2nd of april |
| 13:07.52 | Elive_user13_en | i used the 1.9.24 on my laptop imke so many upgrate |
| 13:07.58 | Elive_user13_en | and compiz work greatest |
| 13:08.13 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user13_en, I need to dl and install 1.9.25-compiz first. |
| 13:08.15 | Elive_user13_en | can someon can explain me clearly please |
| 13:08.25 | AlexAnteMachina | it's new to me, too. |
| 13:08.37 | Elive_user13_en | ok i stay u return |
| 13:08.44 | Elive_user13_en | to install this new released |
| 13:08.56 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user13_en, I'll be right back |
| 13:09.03 | AlexAnteMachina | just booting my pc |
| 13:09.19 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, I'm on a eeepc atm, too |
| 13:09.21 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 13:09.29 | AlexAnteMachina | loves this device |
| 13:09.53 | xanderLinux | |
| 13:09.54 | xanderLinux | I have a question |
| 13:09.54 | xanderLinux | I am installing elive but the bar does not move or I hope I run again |
| 13:10.04 | AlexAnteMachina | what bar? |
| 13:10.38 | xanderLinux | |
| 13:10.38 | xanderLinux | process |
| 13:10.46 | xanderLinux | sorry |
| 13:10.49 | AlexAnteMachina | be patient. |
| 13:10.57 | xanderLinux | elive is being install |
| 13:11.07 | wasynyt_eee | likes his eee 900 as well |
| 13:11.20 | AlexAnteMachina | and in case it wont work, just start the install from a terminal by typing in "eliveinstaller". |
| 13:11.21 | xanderLinux | this bar |
| 13:11.42 | AlexAnteMachina | xanderLinux, be patient. |
| 13:11.57 | xanderLinux | yes man |
| 13:12.14 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, I got a 1000h go. |
| 13:12.33 | xanderLinux | |
| 13:12.33 | xanderLinux | gnu linux deserves it |
| 13:12.50 | wasynyt_eee | that is way greater machine than the puny one i own |
| 13:12.50 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 13:13.06 | AlexAnteMachina | puny? |
| 13:13.33 | AlexAnteMachina | well, first i had a 701 |
| 13:13.42 | AlexAnteMachina | but that was way too tiny. |
| 13:13.43 | wasynyt_eee | .. |
| 13:14.14 | wasynyt_eee | well the flashdrive on my machine is way too slow.. and the battery is too weak.. otherwise this is a good machine |
| 13:14.28 | AlexAnteMachina | the 1000 series got a larger keyboard. |
| 13:14.53 | AlexAnteMachina | that's the mainreason to me for buying it. |
| 13:15.17 | AlexAnteMachina | and a larger display, too. |
| 13:15.18 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 13:15.55 | AlexAnteMachina | there was also a cheaper 1000h. B |
| 13:16.48 | AlexAnteMachina | But the cheaper Model had no atom-cpu and no SIM-card slot. |
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| 13:17.41 | wasynyt_eee | i dont need larger keyboard |
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| 13:17.50 | wasynyt_eee | well all i need is a version with a better battery than my current machine.. so when the time comes for this machine i will be getting a new one with better battery |
| 13:18.16 | AlexAnteMachina | why not buying a replacemant battery? |
| 13:18.23 | AlexAnteMachina | with higher capacity? |
| 13:19.01 | wasynyt_eee | hmm.. it is quite not worth it.. as those replacement batteries are allmost as expensive as a new machine |
| 13:19.27 | wasynyt_eee | around 100 euros |
| 13:19.42 | AlexAnteMachina | huh? |
| 13:20.00 | AlexAnteMachina | 900 eeepc series cost about 100 Euro at your place??? |
| 13:20.28 | wasynyt_eee | around 270 euros |
| 13:20.40 | wasynyt_eee | and that battery would be half of its worth |
| 13:21.01 | wasynyt_eee | http://lion-battery-canada-inc.amazonwebstore.com/Mugen-Power-11200mAh-Battery-For-ASUS/M/B001FSZ4B6.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=froogle |
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| 13:22.14 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, how about that: http://cgi.ebay.de/AKKU-fuer-ASUS-EEE-PC-EEEPC-700-701-900-10400mAh-black-l_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1229Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1308QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem350128722098QQitemZ350128722098QQptZDEQ5fTechnikQ5fComputerzubehQc3Qb6rQ5fNotebookQ5fAkkusQQsalenotsupported |
| 13:22.49 | wasynyt_eee | hmm that one looks good |
| 13:23.50 | wasynyt_eee | i only have white machine |
| 13:24.10 | wasynyt_eee | but that looks like the battery i should be getting |
| 13:27.35 | Elive_user13_en | AlexAnteMachina, well i install it or not? |
| 13:32.32 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, there are white batteries, too |
| 13:33.28 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, as an example: http://cgi.ebay.de/AKKU-fuer-ASUS-EEE-PC-EEEPC-700-701-900-10400mAh-Weis_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1229Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem160325900853QQitemZ160325900853QQptZDEQ5fTechnikQ5fComputerzubehQc3Qb6rQ5fNotebookQ5fAkkusQQsalenotsupported |
| 13:33.49 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user13_en, I just burned it to CD. Now I'll boot from it..... |
| 13:34.05 | wasynyt_eee | yeah i noticed that too |
| 13:34.09 | wasynyt_eee | thanks for the tip |
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| 13:53.42 | AlexAnteMachina | hey ho |
| 13:54.45 | Elive_user13_en | AlexAnteMachina, ping |
| 13:55.01 | AlexAnteMachina | okay Elive_user13_en |
| 13:55.30 | AlexAnteMachina | just click on the desktop, go to settings, then to ecomorph. |
| 13:55.53 | Elive_user13_en | yes? |
| 13:55.56 | Elive_user13_en | and? |
| 13:56.17 | AlexAnteMachina | didnt you look for ecsm? |
| 13:56.35 | Elive_user13_en | yes |
| 13:56.37 | Elive_user13_en | and this ecsm? |
| 13:56.54 | Elive_user13_en | on this ecomorph conf we can change the alt tab or key config? |
| 13:57.12 | wasynyt_eee | AlexAnteMachina, is working beatifully? |
| 13:57.12 | Elive_user13_en | well thanks |
| 13:57.19 | Elive_user13_en | same question for AlexAnteMachina ? |
| 13:57.27 | Elive_user13_en | becaus i will install it now |
| 13:57.30 | Elive_user13_en | i supose |
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| 14:07.49 | wasynyt_eee | welcome back alec |
| 14:08.06 | wasynyt_eee | *AlexAnteMachina |
| 14:08.24 | AlexAnteMachina | howdy, wasynyt_eee |
| 14:09.14 | wasynyt_eee | how is the newest elive working for you |
| 14:09.19 | *** join/#elive Translator (n=Elive_us@p5793C604.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:09.39 | Translator | wasynyt_eee, new settingspanel for ecomorph is tricky |
| 14:09.50 | wasynyt_eee | really |
| 14:09.57 | wasynyt_eee | what is wrong with it |
| 14:10.10 | Translator | now it's part of e17 |
| 14:10.24 | wasynyt_eee | is that a problem |
| 14:10.57 | Translator | it's pretty similar to the old manager, but it's got a little weird. |
| 14:11.18 | wasynyt_eee | hmm sounds interesting |
| 14:11.19 | Translator | AND! there is NO key-binding option in it. |
| 14:11.39 | Translator | I guess that should be done in e17-keyboard-settings. |
| 14:12.28 | Translator | BUT: when trying to set a shortcut that's already in use by another command, there is no option to overcome it. |
| 14:12.45 | wasynyt_eee | really |
| 14:12.50 | wasynyt_eee | that sounds somewhat odd |
| 14:12.52 | Translator | it just tells that it's already in use and one should try another shortcut. |
| 14:12.56 | Translator | that sucks. |
| 14:13.00 | wasynyt_eee | agrees |
| 14:13.08 | Translator | okay, its all a dev-version. |
| 14:13.12 | Translator | so I'm not angry. |
| 14:13.27 | Translator | but I need to say that this really sucks. |
| 14:13.40 | Translator | the old manager was much easier to use. |
| 14:13.57 | Translator | no! the old GUI was much easier to use! |
| 14:14.06 | Translator | the manager is the same. |
| 14:14.31 | wasynyt_eee | heh |
| 14:14.37 | Translator | Maybe you should get this version too. |
| 14:14.43 | wasynyt_eee | i think so too |
| 14:14.46 | Translator | to see by yourselfe. |
| 14:14.55 | wasynyt_eee | i think i will download it when i get back to home |
| 14:15.16 | Translator | gives permission to wasynyt_eee to dl it later. |
| 14:15.18 | Translator | :) |
| 14:15.24 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 14:15.35 | Translator | is a gernerouse guy |
| 14:15.39 | Translator | ;) |
| 14:15.45 | wasynyt_eee | has noticed it |
| 14:16.35 | wasynyt_eee | :) |
| 14:16.40 | ychoucha | ~time |
| 14:16.41 | apt | [time] 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2009.04.04 14:16:41 GMT |
| 14:16.41 | diabetik | ychoucha: 04:16 PM, April 04, 2009 |
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| 14:17.06 | wasynyt_eee | good afternoon ychoucha |
| 14:17.12 | ychoucha | hillo |
| 14:17.21 | Translator | hillo ychoucha |
| 14:17.23 | Translator | ;) |
| 14:17.45 | Elive_user63_en | newbie report in~~ |
| 14:18.03 | wasynyt_eee | good afternoon Elive_user63_en |
| 14:18.09 | wasynyt_eee | welcome aboard |
| 14:18.17 | Translator | hi Elive_user63_en |
| 14:18.29 | Translator | wasynyt_eee, or abroad? |
| 14:18.37 | Elive_user63_en | it's so warm |
| 14:18.53 | Translator | open the fridge |
| 14:18.56 | Translator | ;) |
| 14:19.21 | Elive_user63_en | i'm saying your welcome |
| 14:19.26 | Elive_user63_en | :) |
| 14:19.27 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 14:19.43 | wasynyt_eee | Translator, is on fire.. he is testing new version of elive |
| 14:19.43 | Translator | oh, I thought youre talking about the weather. |
| 14:19.46 | wasynyt_eee | heh |
| 14:19.55 | Translator | is on a beer |
| 14:19.59 | Translator | not on fire. |
| 14:20.13 | Elive_user63_en | i'm using elive 1.9.24 |
| 14:20.46 | Elive_user63_en | awesome, hard to configure though |
| 14:20.59 | Translator | is loosing his eyebrows. |
| 14:21.29 | Translator | Elive_user63_en, are you using the compiz-version? |
| 14:21.42 | wasynyt_eee | what is so stresfull Translator |
| 14:21.53 | Elive_user63_en | i download from distrowatch |
| 14:21.53 | Translator | I dont know. |
| 14:22.17 | Translator | wasynyt_eee, it started about 1 year ago. |
| 14:22.38 | wasynyt_eee | :S |
| 14:23.36 | Translator | Elive_user63_en, it's nice that you've downloaded it from distrowatch. |
| 14:23.47 | Elive_user63_en | i am wondering why the entangle is not working |
| 14:23.51 | keyra | Translator: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 14:24.12 | Translator | But that wont tell us what version you are using. Normal dev-version or compiz-dev-version? |
| 14:24.46 | Elive_user63_en | i think it doesn't have compiz |
| 14:26.12 | Elive_user63_en | it doesn't contain a 'e17-compiz' package |
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| 14:28.27 | AlexAnteMachina | it's not compiz, but ecomorph |
| 14:28.54 | Elive_user63_en | i guess....so.... |
| 14:30.43 | Elive_user63_en | i dunno know how to remove a link of app in the menu |
| 14:30.51 | AlexAnteMachina | huh? |
| 14:30.56 | AlexAnteMachina | link of app? |
| 14:31.09 | AlexAnteMachina | oh, you mean an Icon in the dock-bar!? |
| 14:31.32 | Elive_user63_en | no, in the right-click menu |
| 14:31.57 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user63_en, seems I'm not getting it, yet. |
| 14:32.35 | AlexAnteMachina | what right-click menue? |
| 14:32.52 | Elive_user63_en | when right-click on the desktop |
| 14:32.56 | AlexAnteMachina | there are lots of context-menues. |
| 14:32.57 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. |
| 14:33.20 | AlexAnteMachina | desktop right-click. |
| 14:33.25 | AlexAnteMachina | what next? |
| 14:33.37 | Elive_user63_en | then we can see lots of apps |
| 14:33.40 | Elive_user63_en | right? |
| 14:34.09 | AlexAnteMachina | no. just menues that will us guide to the apps. |
| 14:34.22 | Elive_user63_en | en |
| 14:34.37 | Elive_user63_en | so, how can i add one or delete one? |
| 14:35.13 | ychoucha | AlexAnteMachina, do u use right now elive-compiz 1.9.25 |
| 14:35.31 | AlexAnteMachina | yes, ychoucha |
| 14:35.51 | ychoucha | so u have install it or just try on liveCD? |
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| 14:36.43 | wasynyt_eee | good afternoon Spami|Thug |
| 14:36.58 | Spami|Thug | thx |
| 14:37.18 | wasynyt_eee | how are you doing |
| 14:38.31 | Elive_user63_en | in 'Settings-Settings Panel-Apps-New Application' i can add a context-menu, but how can i delete it? |
| 14:39.01 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user63_en, I dont know yet, too. |
| 14:39.10 | Elive_user63_en | i learned from web entangle can do it |
| 14:40.33 | Elive_user63_en | but elpanel said entangle has been 'Funtion deprecated'... |
| 14:41.03 | AlexAnteMachina | I know |
| 14:41.18 | AlexAnteMachina | it must be in the e17 settings. |
| 14:41.27 | Elive_user63_en | yeap |
| 14:41.39 | Elive_user63_en | its wired |
| 14:41.57 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 14:42.09 | Elive_user63_en | @_@ |
| 14:43.50 | Elive_user63_en | thanks though ^_^ |
| 14:44.15 | AlexAnteMachina | guess we need to ask in #e17 |
| 14:44.26 | AlexAnteMachina | or we may ask Thanatermesis |
| 14:45.14 | Elive_user63_en | i'll try |
| 14:46.48 | AlexAnteMachina | i need to leave now. |
| 14:46.50 | AlexAnteMachina | by all! |
| 14:47.18 | Elive_user63_en | good night, everybody time to bath^_^ |
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| 15:08.16 | gatien | how can i take a screenshot? |
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| 16:31.27 | AlexAnteMachina | hi ho |
| 16:32.34 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, ? |
| 16:32.39 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, ? |
| 16:32.45 | wasynyt_eee | welcome back AlexAnteMachina |
| 16:32.49 | AlexAnteMachina | hi |
| 16:33.36 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 16:33.42 | AlexAnteMachina | is having a beer |
| 16:34.22 | wasynyt_eee | would like one too.. but not a change |
| 16:34.30 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, do you have any idea how long it will take until bluetooth will work smooth with linux? |
| 16:34.54 | AlexAnteMachina | I could give you some. But you are pretty far away. |
| 16:34.56 | wasynyt_eee | i guess that it will take few years.. maybe five |
| 16:34.59 | wasynyt_eee | heh |
| 16:35.08 | AlexAnteMachina | dammmmmmnnnnnnnj |
| 16:35.31 | AlexAnteMachina | why do you think it'll take that long? |
| 16:35.43 | AlexAnteMachina | Bluetooth aint a new thing. |
| 16:36.08 | wasynyt_eee | yes but it took years for wlan as well |
| 16:37.14 | wasynyt_eee | and the bluetooth device manufacturers are even worse than wlan ones |
| 16:37.26 | AlexAnteMachina | Is it that complicated to build a well working program for several purpose? Such as streaming media, moving/copying data.... etc... |
| 16:37.47 | wasynyt_eee | well it is... if you dont have aces to all device data |
| 16:37.47 | AlexAnteMachina | I thought bluetooth was a standard. |
| 16:38.12 | AlexAnteMachina | like html. |
| 16:38.14 | wasynyt_eee | yes but the devices are not |
| 16:38.20 | AlexAnteMachina | ??? |
| 16:38.51 | wasynyt_eee | they all do the thing allmost the same.. |
| 16:39.29 | wasynyt_eee | but the way the devices work is not.. and there is very little device documentation |
| 16:40.23 | AlexAnteMachina | is there any way of reading out the devices answers on commands? |
| 16:40.35 | wasynyt_eee | i dont know.. |
| 16:40.36 | wasynyt_eee | maybe |
| 16:41.04 | AlexAnteMachina | I got no idea, too. |
| 16:41.07 | wasynyt_eee | but i am no device driver expert |
| 16:41.13 | AlexAnteMachina | Have never ever really programmed. |
| 16:41.48 | wasynyt_eee | same for me |
| 16:42.33 | AlexAnteMachina | tomorrow I'll start with my book about C |
| 16:42.58 | wasynyt_eee | that might be a good plan |
| 16:43.27 | AlexAnteMachina | Well, and in case I really like it I might go for a good bluetooth app. |
| 16:44.12 | wasynyt_eee | well there are a lot of people searching for one |
| 16:44.18 | AlexAnteMachina | I got 3 or 4 bluetooth devices around. That's enough for first testings |
| 16:44.27 | wasynyt_eee | true |
| 16:45.31 | AlexAnteMachina | let me think... |
| 16:45.32 | AlexAnteMachina | 2 bluetooth-usb sticks... |
| 16:45.32 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
| 16:45.32 | AlexAnteMachina | 1 bluetooth-audio-receiver |
| 16:46.03 | AlexAnteMachina | an eeepc with bluetooth-chipset and a cellphone with bluetooth. |
| 16:46.19 | AlexAnteMachina | Oh, and a Wii-mote. |
| 16:46.55 | wasynyt_eee | heh |
| 16:47.09 | AlexAnteMachina | so I got 5 bluetooth-devices. |
| 16:47.30 | wasynyt_eee | quite a llot |
| 16:47.40 | wasynyt_eee | *lot |
| 16:47.44 | AlexAnteMachina | yep. |
| 16:47.57 | AlexAnteMachina | should be enough for some first testings. |
| 16:48.40 | wasynyt_eee | :) |
| 16:50.48 | AlexAnteMachina | In case the differences are only minor ones it should be possible to create some kind of guide or wizard for setting up the device. |
| 16:51.30 | AlexAnteMachina | that would save people from crawling the net for fucked up drivers. |
| 16:52.07 | wasynyt_eee | quite so.. |
| 16:53.02 | wasynyt_eee | the biggest issue is that the bluetooth connectivity needs that "password" |
| 16:53.19 | wasynyt_eee | which is pain in the arse to set up in current setups |
| 16:53.47 | AlexAnteMachina | well, those passwords are told in the userguide that comes with the devices. |
| 16:54.22 | wasynyt_eee | yup |
| 16:54.22 | AlexAnteMachina | So everybody should know the passwords for his/her devices. |
| 16:54.42 | wasynyt_eee | hmm |
| 16:55.15 | AlexAnteMachina | But the easiest way would be to save passwords in the application. |
| 16:55.28 | wasynyt_eee | agrees |
| 16:55.58 | AlexAnteMachina | and there is another problem, I found |
| 16:56.47 | wasynyt_eee | what is it |
| 16:57.10 | AlexAnteMachina | I can connect my computer via bluetooth to my audio-receiver. BUT: There is no additional tool to make the audiostream use that connection. |
| 16:57.29 | wasynyt_eee | odd |
| 16:57.54 | AlexAnteMachina | What is a application good for, that can setup audio-services, but cannot redirect the audio-output. |
| 16:58.49 | AlexAnteMachina | Sure, this belongs more or less to the player (xmms, amarok, exaile...), but there should be some hint for the user, at least! |
| 16:58.58 | wasynyt_eee | yeah |
| 16:59.18 | wasynyt_eee | but the best way would be that it would be automagic |
| 16:59.27 | AlexAnteMachina | And this is what I do not understand. |
| 16:59.41 | AlexAnteMachina | Why do so many coders only do half the work? |
| 16:59.57 | AlexAnteMachina | They are doing good work, but stop in the middle. |
| 17:00.07 | wasynyt_eee | well it is hard to hone it |
| 17:00.12 | AlexAnteMachina | hone? |
| 17:00.26 | wasynyt_eee | make it a complete package |
| 17:00.44 | AlexAnteMachina | okay... looked it up. |
| 17:00.45 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 17:00.49 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:01.01 | AlexAnteMachina | well, of course it's not easy. |
| 17:01.07 | wasynyt_eee | and many want just to fullfill theyre own needs |
| 17:01.10 | AlexAnteMachina | I never thought it was. |
| 17:01.17 | wasynyt_eee | and not to make complete product |
| 17:01.23 | AlexAnteMachina | hmm... |
| 17:01.29 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. |
| 17:01.42 | AlexAnteMachina | I'll start with that book tomorrow morning. |
| 17:01.57 | AlexAnteMachina | there is need. |
| 17:02.01 | wasynyt_eee | yeah |
| 17:02.08 | wasynyt_eee | i wish you luck and succes |
| 17:02.08 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:02.15 | AlexAnteMachina | has to save the world from crappy apps |
| 17:02.22 | wasynyt_eee | ! |
| 17:02.36 | AlexAnteMachina | SuperAlex will do that. |
| 17:02.39 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 17:02.43 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:03.02 | AlexAnteMachina | but I need a SuperHeroCostume then! |
| 17:03.15 | AlexAnteMachina | Without a Cape!! |
| 17:03.16 | wasynyt_eee | i dont think so |
| 17:03.40 | wasynyt_eee | superherocostumes are awfull |
| 17:03.44 | wasynyt_eee | :S |
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| 17:04.03 | wasynyt_eee | good evening FossZombie |
| 17:04.44 | wasynyt_eee | FossZombie, AlexAnteMachina has promised to save the world |
| 17:06.32 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:09.57 | AlexAnteMachina | no. |
| 17:10.02 | AlexAnteMachina | is trying to. |
| 17:10.48 | wasynyt_eee | ahh.. sorry my misstake |
| 17:17.44 | FossZombie | hi wasynyt |
| 17:18.15 | FossZombie | I have tragic news this morning, my linux pc is down |
| 17:19.10 | wasynyt_eee | ohnoes |
| 17:19.13 | wasynyt_eee | what happened |
| 17:19.37 | FossZombie | first one of the nvidia sli cards went bad so i took it out, months ago |
| 17:19.51 | FossZombie | so its been running on one video, but now I think the hard drive went out |
| 17:20.08 | FossZombie | because it was running a western digital that I got free after rebate |
| 17:20.17 | FossZombie | all my (even very old) seagates work fine still |
| 17:20.24 | FossZombie | but my seagate 1tb is /home |
| 17:20.27 | FossZombie | so this is a problem |
| 17:21.00 | wasynyt_eee | :S |
| 17:21.06 | wasynyt_eee | that sounds like nasty problems |
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| 17:26.39 | wasynyt_eee | good evening ma_tex |
| 17:26.52 | wasynyt_eee | had also one hd fail him |
| 17:27.08 | ma_tex | hi wasynyt_eee |
| 17:27.11 | ma_tex | :) |
| 17:27.17 | wasynyt_eee | but i didnt lose any data as i got smart warning me of it |
| 17:27.24 | wasynyt_eee | how are you doing ma_tex |
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| 17:30.49 | AlexAnteMachina | hey ho |
| 17:31.00 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, what do you think about this: |
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| 17:31.45 | AlexAnteMachina | http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=TW&hl=zh-TW&v=BucIjXZVxXo |
| 17:32.12 | Elive_user85 | i love elive and i think that it can be the distro that kicks microsoft out of the water |
| 17:32.59 | wasynyt_eee | checks |
| 17:36.14 | wasynyt_eee | AlexAnteMachina, http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ |
| 17:37.19 | ma_tex | have problem bicouse sound don't works :( |
| 17:37.33 | keyra | ma_tex: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 17:37.46 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, i just read an article about it. |
| 17:37.59 | AlexAnteMachina | it's more a hoax than a real feature. |
| 17:38.06 | wasynyt_eee | the asrock one ? |
| 17:38.34 | AlexAnteMachina | yes. |
| 17:38.55 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, they just make the computer reboot and then go to hibernation. |
| 17:38.59 | wasynyt_eee | nice |
| 17:39.08 | wasynyt_eee | that is a really new feature |
| 17:39.09 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:39.11 | AlexAnteMachina | so shutdown takes ages. |
| 17:39.32 | AlexAnteMachina | it's just a script that changes shutdown. |
| 17:39.35 | wasynyt_eee | maybe they use suspend to ram in the video |
| 17:39.48 | wasynyt_eee | the slow one would be suspend to disk |
| 17:40.06 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... this video-"test" is a hoax, too. |
| 17:40.22 | AlexAnteMachina | one could only compare if they used the same mainboards. |
| 17:41.23 | AlexAnteMachina | a 3GHZ-machine is in a "fast-boot-mode" by default, compared to an 500mhz-machine. |
| 17:41.26 | AlexAnteMachina | *gg* |
| 17:42.28 | wasynyt_eee | nicenice |
| 17:42.33 | wasynyt_eee | well done then |
| 17:43.20 | wasynyt_eee | i wonder who really thinks that it is possible to make windows vista boot in 3 seconds with only changing the motherboard |
| 17:43.21 | wasynyt_eee | :S |
| 17:45.07 | AlexAnteMachina | lol. |
| 17:45.13 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:45.14 | AlexAnteMachina | it's just a script. |
| 17:45.23 | AlexAnteMachina | that could be used on every computer. |
| 17:46.25 | wasynyt_eee | yeah |
| 17:46.48 | AlexAnteMachina | but it's a nice feature. |
| 17:47.14 | AlexAnteMachina | One could add it by default to the shutdown-options. |
| 17:47.26 | wasynyt_eee | doesnt vista have it there? |
| 17:47.30 | wasynyt_eee | i think it has |
| 17:47.58 | AlexAnteMachina | what command could do the same thing in linux? |
| 17:49.16 | wasynyt_eee | that is just regular suspend to ram (faster but does not survive poweroff) and suspend to disc (slower but will survive complete poweroff) |
| 17:49.53 | AlexAnteMachina | oh, by the way |
| 17:50.21 | AlexAnteMachina | these options do not work in elive-dev |
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| 17:53.06 | wasynyt_eee | that is very possible |
| 17:53.15 | wasynyt_eee | they need some work before they will work |
| 17:53.34 | wasynyt_eee | and in many cases device spefic configs |
| 17:53.57 | wasynyt_eee | but at least my machine with debian eee repos has suspend to ram working |
| 17:54.11 | keyra | wasynyt_eee: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 17:55.14 | AlexAnteMachina | broken systems rock! |
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| 17:55.31 | AlexAnteMachina | broken systems make me tell people to switch to linux. |
| 17:55.33 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 17:59.29 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:59.59 | wasynyt_eee | AlexAnteMachina, you should try and see if you could use some debian eee projects packages |
| 18:00.10 | wasynyt_eee | they are basically debian lenny |
| 18:01.04 | AlexAnteMachina | ??? |
| 18:01.21 | AlexAnteMachina | got no idea what exactly you are talking about. |
| 18:06.07 | wasynyt_eee | nah just about that you might get suspend to ram and suspend to disc working on your eee |
| 18:06.20 | AlexAnteMachina | i dont need that on eeepc |
| 18:07.49 | wasynyt_eee | ok |
| 18:07.56 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
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| 18:14.09 | evon | Can someone please help me with me elive installation? |
| 18:14.21 | evon | I get a Grub error 13 whenever I try to boot |
| 18:14.35 | keyra | evon: 90 % of the problems in Elive are due to a bad read of the CD, maybe your CD media or your cdrom device, check the MD5 of the ISO, try this CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed... better yet, from another computer |
| 18:14.56 | evon | I did that |
| 18:15.04 | evon | Same problem |
| 18:15.18 | evon | Elive even checked the CD for errors and found none |
| 18:15.40 | AlexAnteMachina | so you booted from CD. |
| 18:15.48 | evon | Yes i booted |
| 18:15.58 | evon | I get the grub error after i've installed |
| 18:16.12 | evon | I had elive handle the grub installation the first time |
| 18:16.18 | AlexAnteMachina | where did you install to? MBR? |
| 18:16.19 | evon | then I tried the grub entry manually |
| 18:16.33 | evon | On the HD in my laptop |
| 18:16.44 | evon | Root partition |
| 18:16.55 | AlexAnteMachina | sure. but did you install it to MBR? |
| 18:17.11 | AlexAnteMachina | The installer asks for it. |
| 18:17.15 | evon | the Grub? |
| 18:17.17 | evon | yes |
| 18:17.23 | elmo40 | http://qurl.org/cZ0 |
| 18:18.24 | evon | My grub is on HD0,0 |
| 18:18.34 | evon | and elive is installed on HD1,0 |
| 18:19.32 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, any idea? |
| 18:20.22 | elmo40 | evon: you have a laptop? |
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| 18:20.38 | elmo40 | with one or two hard drives... |
| 18:21.42 | elmo40 | hd1,0 means second drive, first partition |
| 18:21.52 | elmo40 | hd0,0 means first drive, first partition |
| 18:21.59 | elmo40 | i dont think you have more then one hdd on your lappy |
| 18:22.22 | wasynyt_eee | thanks elmo40 |
| 18:22.44 | elmo40 | wasynyt_eee: and i recently made it in the door ;) |
| 18:23.58 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 18:24.07 | wasynyt_eee | and good evening elmo40 |
| 18:24.09 | evon | i have an external |
| 18:24.19 | wasynyt_eee | did you install elive on that |
| 18:25.53 | elmo40 | evon: ok, let us start fromt he beginning... (plus be quick, the woman 'needs' me) >_< |
| 18:26.03 | elmo40 | you have a laptop with a USB external hdd? |
| 18:26.09 | elmo40 | where do you want Elive installed? |
| 18:26.15 | elmo40 | on the external? |
| 18:26.49 | elmo40 | if so you will have to format it before you try to install, i dont think the eliveinstaller will 'find' the usb drive by default |
| 18:27.07 | elmo40 | evon: well? am i correct, or are you trying to do something else? |
| 18:27.12 | elmo40 | (do i type to fast?) |
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| 18:32.24 | evon | sorry |
| 18:32.27 | evon | you are correct |
| 18:32.35 | evon | i am installing elive on the external |
| 18:32.43 | evon | in fact i already did |
| 18:32.51 | evon | it's just a matter of getting the grub working |
| 18:33.04 | evon | elive detected the external just fine |
| 18:33.08 | evon | i formatted it |
| 18:33.15 | evon | tried ext3 and reiserfs |
| 18:33.20 | evon | still the same problem |
| 18:34.40 | wasynyt_eee | booting from the external can be hassle :S |
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| 18:37.25 | evon | Wel i even tried installing the grub to the MBR of the external and booting from it but I got the same error no matter what OS i tried booting from. |
| 18:37.39 | keyra | evon: 90 % of the problems in Elive are due to a bad read of the CD, maybe your CD media or your cdrom device, check the MD5 of the ISO, try this CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed... better yet, from another computer |
| 18:38.55 | wasynyt_eee | then the install may broken |
| 18:41.11 | evon | this is the second time installing |
| 18:41.14 | evon | same prob. |
| 18:41.30 | evon | i can try again i guess |
| 18:41.33 | evon | any other ideas? |
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| 18:46.32 | wasynyt_eee | :S |
| 18:47.00 | AlexAnteMachina | Yes, evon. |
| 18:47.08 | AlexAnteMachina | Buy Elive-certified Hardware. |
| 18:47.30 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 18:47.42 | AlexAnteMachina | Microsoft tells the same. |
| 18:47.53 | AlexAnteMachina | Why shouldnt elive, too?? |
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| 18:57.49 | Sugarat | Hi, - quick question perhaps someone can help with - Brasero disc burning application only allows me to make an image file - not burn a discs... do I need to be in a certain group? |
| 19:02.34 | AlexAnteMachina | Sugarat, ??? |
| 19:02.51 | AlexAnteMachina | what kind of Cd do you want to burn? |
| 19:03.17 | Sugarat | I've got a DVD image and I'm trying to puit it on cd... but it only allows creation of an ISO file.. not actually burn the disc |
| 19:03.45 | AlexAnteMachina | so you have an *.iso file? |
| 19:03.46 | evon | elive certified hardware? |
| 19:03.51 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 19:04.52 | Sugarat | no its VIDEO_TS files.. I just want to burn a DVD with Brasero but it wont offer this.. the drive works with cdrecord etc... its Brasero that wont allow me to burn the disc I guess |
| 19:07.59 | evon | so can anyone help me with be grub error 13 prob? |
| 19:10.01 | wasynyt_eee | evon :/ |
| 19:11.42 | wasynyt_eee | Sugarat, you need to be in cdrom group i think |
| 19:11.45 | elmo40 | wasynyt_eee: i have to leave. can you help him? |
| 19:11.57 | wasynyt_eee | evon, i think you will have much greater succes if you do not install it on the external |
| 19:12.02 | wasynyt_eee | elmo40, i will try |
| 19:12.07 | Sugarat | ah ok I'll try it |
| 19:12.09 | elmo40 | all i think is he needs to install a /boot partition and save the mbr to that (on the external) |
| 19:12.10 | Sugarat | thanks |
| 19:12.18 | AlexAnteMachina | Sugarat, it's been a long time since I did something like you are going to. So I got not much knowledge. |
| 19:12.31 | evon | I did that the first time |
| 19:12.32 | wasynyt_eee | elmo40, i feel that the problem might lie in the nature of usb |
| 19:12.36 | Sugarat | hehe no worries |
| 19:12.54 | elmo40 | i dont |
| 19:13.06 | elmo40 | he needs the seperate drive to also have a mbr with grub. |
| 19:13.22 | elmo40 | then when he selects it on boot, it will run grub from there |
| 19:13.25 | elmo40 | ok, going |
| 19:13.26 | elmo40 | enjoy! |
| 19:13.41 | evon | ok then. so when elive asks me to to install the grub |
| 19:13.53 | evon | i choose to install it on HD1,0 |
| 19:13.58 | evon | and not HD0,0 |
| 19:15.51 | wasynyt_eee | Sugarat, any succes? |
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| 19:16.11 | evon | ? |
| 19:17.43 | evon | I only want to try Elive so that's why i want to install it on an external drive |
| 19:17.56 | evon | I don't have any more space on my HD to but another distro on it |
| 19:18.08 | wasynyt_eee | hmm |
| 19:18.17 | wasynyt_eee | keyra elive on usb |
| 19:18.27 | wasynyt_eee | apt elive usb |
| 19:18.56 | wasynyt_eee | the trick is that the device mapping can change when you use external usb drive |
| 19:19.04 | wasynyt_eee | and the install will bork |
| 19:19.12 | Sugarat | same thing... hmm |
| 19:19.18 | evon | interesting |
| 19:19.22 | evon | i will try it now |
| 19:19.29 | wasynyt_eee | hmm |
| 19:19.46 | *** join/#elive wasynyt (n=timo@a82-197-12-244.mpynet.fi) |
| 19:20.08 | *** join/#elive Elive_user23_en (n=Elive_us@201.160.235.15.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) |
| 19:20.27 | evon | is elive usb a package I can install? |
| 19:20.41 | evon | or is there something else i have to do? |
| 19:20.52 | AlexAnteMachina | use unetbootin |
| 19:21.06 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: Do not use the default version of unetbootin, use the SPECIAL version of unetbootin for Elive: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) and http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-linux-latest (linux), it is recommended to use the Windows version |
| 19:22.07 | evon | oh ok |
| 19:22.26 | wasynyt_eee | if i remember correctly that can be used to install elive on usb.. in a way that it will just work |
| 19:22.38 | AlexAnteMachina | no. |
| 19:22.53 | AlexAnteMachina | it's creating a bootable usb-device |
| 19:23.01 | AlexAnteMachina | instead of a CD. |
| 19:23.08 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: this is a pretty nice howto writed by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick (no install, live) http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?21,845 , or use Unetbootin (graphically from windows): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe |
| 19:23.34 | AlexAnteMachina | it's just a live-system. |
| 19:23.48 | evon | oh |
| 19:24.32 | wasynyt_eee | but that way the elive system will be usable.. |
| 19:25.03 | evon | But will I be able to ensure compatibility with my laptop on a live system though? |
| 19:25.08 | wasynyt_eee | because the drive mappings can jump around |
| 19:25.17 | evon | I want to see if my wireless, sound and other things will work properly |
| 19:25.21 | wasynyt_eee | when using usb harddrives |
| 19:25.53 | wasynyt_eee | remove your laptops harddrive and then install elive on that usb drive |
| 19:25.56 | wasynyt_eee | :P |
| 19:26.02 | evon | hehe |
| 19:26.06 | wasynyt_eee | that way it might not play around |
| 19:26.10 | evon | good idea |
| 19:26.25 | evon | wanted to avoid that though |
| 19:26.39 | evon | but if there is not other solution... |
| 19:26.45 | evon | guess I will have to |
| 19:26.46 | AlexAnteMachina | or buy a elive-certified computer. |
| 19:26.52 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 19:27.06 | evon | those exist? |
| 19:27.23 | evon | I don't even know if i like elive yet to be buying it or anything for it |
| 19:27.36 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm just kidding. |
| 19:28.01 | Sugarat | how come if I do 'groups' as myself it doesnt list cdrom group.. but if I run groups command as root it says the user is in cdrom group...? I dont' get it |
| 19:29.21 | AlexAnteMachina | Sugarat, maybe k3b would make it? |
| 19:29.32 | wasynyt_eee | Sugarat, then the groub does not excist |
| 19:29.33 | evon | lol |
| 19:29.39 | evon | funny |
| 19:29.49 | wasynyt_eee | you need to know what groub has the cdrom acces |
| 19:29.55 | evon | alrighty i will try another install |
| 19:29.56 | wasynyt_eee | and add yourself to that |
| 19:30.03 | wasynyt_eee | evon wish you luck |
| 19:30.07 | Sugarat | hmm would rather not install that right now... something else is causing this... cdrecord doesnt work now either... hmm I just added myself to the cdrom group but as I say, groups doesnt list this when I run it as the user.. |
| 19:30.08 | evon | thanks |
| 19:30.10 | Sugarat | the cd device (hda) is in group cdrom |
| 19:30.16 | evon | so what is your oppinion of elive? |
| 19:30.23 | evon | is it worth my trying? |
| 19:30.25 | Sugarat | so I added myself to cdrom group... but groups is not showing this |
| 19:30.38 | evon | will I be able to connect easily to wirless netowrks? |
| 19:30.41 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, normally it's really weird. I never had any problems in using cd-devices on Linux. |
| 19:30.52 | evon | how's the hardware compatibility? |
| 19:31.07 | Sugarat | grep cdrom group --> cdrom:x:24:adam |
| 19:31.29 | AlexAnteMachina | evon, you need to know that you are going to use a DEVELOPMENT version! |
| 19:31.44 | evon | oh i thought 1.0 was a stable version |
| 19:32.02 | Sugarat | meh: chmod o+rw /dev/hda |
| 19:32.09 | AlexAnteMachina | yes, evon it is. |
| 19:32.16 | AlexAnteMachina | but it is pretty old. |
| 19:32.17 | wasynyt_eee | and it is also very old |
| 19:32.30 | evon | so you suspect I will have problems then? |
| 19:32.33 | AlexAnteMachina | Wifi might not work on Gem. |
| 19:32.41 | evon | oh ok |
| 19:32.44 | AlexAnteMachina | you should try latest dev-version. |
| 19:32.44 | keyra | evon: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 19:32.46 | Sugarat | cdrecord works now... who cares if /dev/hda is +rw for others. |
| 19:32.53 | wasynyt_eee | heh |
| 19:33.10 | wasynyt_eee | well if there were a virus that kills cdrom devices it would matter |
| 19:33.11 | wasynyt_eee | :P |
| 19:33.31 | wasynyt_eee | hasnt heard about that kind of thing |
| 19:33.40 | evon | Do the development version have automatic HD wireless detection? |
| 19:33.45 | AlexAnteMachina | is about to code a virus to melt down every CD inserted. |
| 19:33.56 | wasynyt_eee | apt slap AlexAnteMachina |
| 19:34.06 | wasynyt_eee | what is hd wireless? |
| 19:34.14 | evon | sorry didn't mean to say HD |
| 19:34.20 | evon | meant to say just wireless |
| 19:34.42 | wasynyt_eee | it it is not automagic but better than the one 1.0 |
| 19:34.49 | evon | ok |
| 19:34.57 | wasynyt_eee | but even windows doesnt have automagic detection |
| 19:34.58 | AlexAnteMachina | evon, get this one: |
| 19:35.03 | AlexAnteMachina | http://elive.oceighty.com/development/elive_1.9.24_unstable.iso# |
| 19:35.06 | AlexAnteMachina | ups.. |
| 19:35.09 | AlexAnteMachina | http://elive.oceighty.com/development/elive_1.9.24_unstable.iso |
| 19:35.28 | evon | well thanks everyone's help. I have to bring my son to see monsters vs aliens 3d now |
| 19:35.34 | wasynyt_eee | nice |
| 19:35.42 | evon | I will download the unstable and give it a try |
| 19:35.42 | AlexAnteMachina | cool |
| 19:35.43 | wasynyt_eee | wants go and see that as well |
| 19:35.51 | AlexAnteMachina | too!!!! |
| 19:35.59 | evon | I'm just looking for a good e distro that works niceley |
| 19:36.04 | evon | having a hard time though |
| 19:36.07 | evon | peace and love everyone |
| 19:36.15 | evon | take care |
| 19:36.19 | wasynyt_eee | you too |
| 19:36.29 | AlexAnteMachina | Enjoy peace an make love! |
| 19:36.32 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 19:36.33 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 19:36.54 | AlexAnteMachina | Gem is really nice. |
| 19:36.59 | AlexAnteMachina | but wifi????? |
| 19:37.11 | wasynyt_eee | wifi=wlan |
| 19:37.51 | AlexAnteMachina | yes |
| 19:37.55 | wasynyt_eee | what then? |
| 19:38.07 | AlexAnteMachina | wifi wont work on gem |
| 19:38.12 | wasynyt_eee | yeah |
| 19:38.19 | wasynyt_eee | it can be made to work tho |
| 19:38.20 | wasynyt_eee | :P |
| 19:38.21 | AlexAnteMachina | unfortunately! |
| 19:38.21 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :) |
| 19:39.46 | Sugarat | my elive seems to have developed another error :-(.... if I insert a USB key or CDROM a box pops up saying: Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.209" (uid=1000 pid=26591 comm="exo-mount -d /dev/hda ") interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member="Mount" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal" (uid=0 pid=3399 comm="/usr/sbin/hald ")) |
| 19:40.13 | Sugarat | i think some software I installed must have completed shafted my permissions.. |
| 19:40.17 | Sugarat | and group memberships... |
| 19:40.35 | wasynyt_eee | i would say that you have crashed hal |
| 19:40.45 | wasynyt_eee | try log out/in |
| 19:40.49 | wasynyt_eee | or reboot |
| 19:40.53 | Sugarat | do I need to be in the haldaemon group. |
| 19:40.54 | wasynyt_eee | that might fix it |
| 19:40.59 | wasynyt_eee | hmm |
| 19:41.02 | wasynyt_eee | maybe |
| 19:41.03 | Sugarat | tried.. its been doing this for a while now.. I need to get to the bottom of it |
| 19:41.09 | Sugarat | what groups are you in on your boxen? |
| 19:41.18 | wasynyt_eee | AlexAnteMachina, are you on elive ? |
| 19:41.25 | wasynyt_eee | is still away from home |
| 19:43.03 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, do you know how to play a audio-cd in elive? |
| 19:43.26 | wasynyt_eee | you need to use audiocd player |
| 19:43.31 | AlexAnteMachina | I just inserted one into my CD-Drive and nothing happened |
| 19:43.38 | wasynyt_eee | but i think mplayer is able to play those |
| 19:43.54 | wasynyt_eee | xmm might also be |
| 19:44.09 | AlexAnteMachina | xmms isnt |
| 19:44.17 | wasynyt_eee | then it is missing a plugin |
| 19:44.20 | Sugarat | is usermod -G the best way to add group membership ? |
| 19:44.38 | AlexAnteMachina | In Gem CDs showed up in Thunar by default. |
| 19:44.52 | wasynyt_eee | has near 0 experience on user group handling |
| 19:45.02 | wasynyt_eee | what does -G option do |
| 19:45.05 | AlexAnteMachina | Sugarat, get MidnightCommander |
| 19:45.12 | Sugarat | wha for? |
| 19:45.24 | wasynyt_eee | AlexAnteMachina, do you have all audiocd parts installed |
| 19:45.27 | AlexAnteMachina | It's got an option for changing groups and stuff |
| 19:45.30 | Sugarat | -G adds group memberships |
| 19:45.37 | Sugarat | isnt that just for files? not user management? |
| 19:45.50 | wasynyt_eee | there are few packages that enable the audiocd playback |
| 19:45.58 | wasynyt_eee | Sugarat, then it might work |
| 19:46.20 | Sugarat | it didnt work for the cdrom group add... hmm I'm going to change perms and reboot it.. maybe it will take notice then |
| 19:46.27 | AlexAnteMachina | Sugarat, you just need to type in a terminal "apt-get install mc" |
| 19:46.47 | Sugarat | i dont see why I would need a file management tool like mc to change my user accoutn group permissions |
| 19:46.56 | wasynyt_eee | AlexAnteMachina, i think that, that is not what Sugarat is after |
| 19:46.57 | AlexAnteMachina | you need not. |
| 19:47.09 | Sugarat | indeed.. |
| 19:47.27 | AlexAnteMachina | it's just a hint for having usergroups management made easy. |
| 19:48.12 | Sugarat | I'll reboot and see what happens... bbiab.. thanks |
| 19:48.25 | wasynyt_eee | see you soon |
| 19:48.34 | Sugarat | latah! |
| 19:49.13 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, I searched for audiocd and only found kdemultimedia-kio-plugins and somaplayer |
| 19:50.01 | wasynyt_eee | hmm.. i think you should then install some audio player that can play audiocds |
| 19:50.12 | wasynyt_eee | or try in terminal mplayer /dev/drom |
| 19:51.48 | wasynyt_eee | */dev/cdrom |
| 19:54.49 | AlexAnteMachina | sure. |
| 19:55.20 | wasynyt_eee | why do you want thunar to see audio cd |
| 19:55.20 | AlexAnteMachina | it works with xmms when telling it to play an address and typing in /dev/cdrom |
| 19:55.27 | wasynyt_eee | hmm |
| 19:55.31 | wasynyt_eee | :/ |
| 19:55.40 | AlexAnteMachina | lol.... |
| 19:55.53 | AlexAnteMachina | are you seriously asking that question? |
| 19:56.18 | wasynyt_eee | not sure at this time of the evening |
| 19:56.26 | AlexAnteMachina | okay.... |
| 19:56.27 | wasynyt_eee | but why not explain anyway |
| 19:56.29 | wasynyt_eee | :P |
| 19:56.45 | AlexAnteMachina | let me get another beer and a cigarett and I'll explain. |
| 19:56.46 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 19:56.51 | wasynyt_eee | you do that |
| 19:56.51 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 19:57.41 | AlexAnteMachina | okay... |
| 19:57.44 | AlexAnteMachina | here we go. |
| 19:58.16 | AlexAnteMachina | In Gem everything that was put in the CDdrive showed up in thunar automatically. |
| 19:58.29 | AlexAnteMachina | That was VERY useful. |
| 19:58.52 | wasynyt_eee | hmm |
| 19:58.53 | AlexAnteMachina | Because one could play it by just clicking on it. |
| 19:58.59 | wasynyt_eee | ahh ok |
| 19:59.04 | AlexAnteMachina | or rip it right the same way. |
| 19:59.25 | wasynyt_eee | does your elive system have all needed thunar addons installed |
| 19:59.41 | AlexAnteMachina | good question! |
| 20:00.08 | AlexAnteMachina | e just hanging..... |
| 20:00.10 | AlexAnteMachina | be right back |
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| 20:00.45 | wasynyt_eee | and have you checked what is the default action for audiocd |
| 20:00.58 | AlexAnteMachina | here I'm. |
| 20:01.05 | wasynyt_eee | welcome back |
| 20:03.25 | AlexAnteMachina | just installed all thunar related packages. |
| 20:03.31 | wasynyt_eee | ok |
| 20:03.34 | AlexAnteMachina | except the xfce-ones. |
| 20:03.37 | wasynyt_eee | heh |
| 20:03.58 | AlexAnteMachina | xfce is a windowmanager. |
| 20:04.05 | wasynyt_eee | yeah i know |
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| 20:04.37 | AlexAnteMachina | now nothing has changed |
| 20:04.42 | wasynyt_eee | too bad |
| 20:04.45 | wasynyt_eee | :/ |
| 20:05.16 | AlexAnteMachina | it is, it is |
| 20:05.50 | AlexAnteMachina | of course I can type in /dev/cdrom in xmms. |
| 20:06.05 | wasynyt_eee | have you checked what is the default action when cdrom is detected |
| 20:06.07 | AlexAnteMachina | but it would be more convenient to have CDs show up in thunar. |
| 20:06.16 | wasynyt_eee | i agree |
| 20:06.20 | Sugarat | I had another idea... I created a new user and checked the permissions on it ... it was in loads of groups that I wasn't!! So I applied those group memberships... automounting of devices is now working again after a reboot - yay! |
| 20:06.21 | AlexAnteMachina | where can that be checked? |
| 20:06.24 | AlexAnteMachina | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.29 | wasynyt_eee | hmm |
| 20:06.41 | Sugarat | dont think Brasero is fixed but what the hell.. cdrecord to the rescue! |
| 20:06.44 | wasynyt_eee | Sugarat, nicely done |
| 20:06.47 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 20:06.50 | Sugarat | why thank you heheh |
| 20:07.02 | wasynyt_eee | apt give cookie to Sugarat |
| 20:07.15 | AlexAnteMachina | DAMN! |
| 20:07.28 | AlexAnteMachina | I just nearly fell off of my chair! |
| 20:07.46 | AlexAnteMachina | My dog started barking! |
| 20:07.53 | wasynyt_eee | -_- |
| 20:07.56 | AlexAnteMachina | Cause somebody went through the house. |
| 20:08.01 | wasynyt_eee | ? |
| 20:08.02 | AlexAnteMachina | Nice alarm. |
| 20:08.11 | wasynyt_eee | agrees |
| 20:08.20 | AlexAnteMachina | But pretty shocking. |
| 20:08.27 | wasynyt_eee | most alarms are |
| 20:08.47 | AlexAnteMachina | No Burglar would break into my appartment. |
| 20:09.01 | AlexAnteMachina | They'd turn away and go to another appartment. |
| 20:09.03 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 20:10.15 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 20:10.25 | wasynyt_eee | AlexAnteMachina, read this forum http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=3102.0 |
| 20:13.57 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, I just installed those xfce packages, too. And now I was able to access several management options!!!! |
| 20:14.25 | wasynyt_eee | it is the volman package |
| 20:14.34 | wasynyt_eee | volma=volume management |
| 20:14.48 | wasynyt_eee | so in there should be quite a lot of options |
| 20:14.57 | AlexAnteMachina | volman is installed. |
| 20:15.12 | wasynyt_eee | Hi I just solved this problem myself and will be filing a bug report. |
| 20:15.12 | wasynyt_eee | Thunar has the association for audio cds cdda:/ instead of the proper cdda:// and for dvds as dvd:/ instead of dvd:// |
| 20:15.12 | wasynyt_eee | To correct this do the following |
| 20:15.12 | wasynyt_eee | Open Thunar (Can be found on the Menu under Accessories) |
| 20:15.13 | wasynyt_eee | From the menu at the top of Thunar select Edit |
| 20:15.16 | wasynyt_eee | From the Edit menu select Preferences |
| 20:15.18 | wasynyt_eee | From the File Manager Preferences dialog, click on the tab labeled Advanced |
| 20:15.20 | wasynyt_eee | From the Advanced tab click on the blue linked word Configure |
| 20:15.22 | wasynyt_eee | From the Removable Drives and Media dialog, click on the tab labeled Multimedia |
| 20:15.24 | wasynyt_eee | From the Multimedia tab for the Audio CDs Command locate the entry totem cdda:/ |
| 20:15.26 | wasynyt_eee | Change that to totem cdda:// |
| 20:15.27 | keyra | wasynyt_eee: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 20:15.28 | wasynyt_eee | From the Multimedia tab for the Video CDs/DVDs Command locate the entry totem dvd:/ |
| 20:15.31 | wasynyt_eee | Change that to totem dvd:// |
| 20:15.33 | wasynyt_eee | Close all dialogs and exit Thunar |
| 20:15.34 | wasynyt_eee | Insert your CD or DVD and enjoy |
| 20:15.37 | wasynyt_eee | sorry for the flood |
| 20:15.48 | AlexAnteMachina | damn... I cant read THAT FAST! |
| 20:17.03 | wasynyt_eee | :S |
| 20:17.26 | wasynyt_eee | should i paste it again in parts |
| 20:17.27 | wasynyt_eee | ? |
| 20:18.15 | AlexAnteMachina | no |
| 20:19.13 | wasynyt_eee | roger |
| 20:21.44 | wasynyt_eee | i hope it answers your question |
| 20:24.09 | AlexAnteMachina | it did not change a thing. |
| 20:24.39 | wasynyt_eee | :/ |
| 20:25.27 | AlexAnteMachina | weird, weird... |
| 20:25.35 | AlexAnteMachina | I'll be right back... |
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| 20:29.41 | wasynyt_eee | welcome back AlexAnteMachina |
| 20:29.43 | AlexAnteMachina | hi |
| 20:29.48 | AlexAnteMachina | NOW IT WORKS!!!! |
| 20:30.00 | AlexAnteMachina | but not exactly the way the tutorial told you. |
| 20:30.01 | wasynyt_eee | i think i will have leave soon and head back to home |
| 20:30.02 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 20:30.05 | wasynyt_eee | nice |
| 20:30.11 | wasynyt_eee | the point is that it works |
| 20:30.16 | AlexAnteMachina | had to modify the command. |
| 20:30.23 | wasynyt_eee | ok |
| 20:30.28 | AlexAnteMachina | SuperAlex finally made it! |
| 20:30.30 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 20:30.53 | AlexAnteMachina | now just inserting a audio-cd makes xmms show up and play it. |
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| 20:31.48 | AlexAnteMachina | this is the right command: |
| 20:31.50 | AlexAnteMachina | xmms /dev/cdrom |
| 20:31.58 | wasynyt_eee | k |
| 20:32.46 | AlexAnteMachina | damn.... where have the xmms-skins moved to? |
| 20:32.54 | wasynyt_eee | no idea |
| 20:32.58 | wasynyt_eee | i dont use it |
| 20:33.34 | AlexAnteMachina | what else are you using? |
| 20:33.35 | wasynyt_eee | ok i will be on my way now.. see you later |
| 20:33.41 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
| 20:33.44 | wasynyt_eee | songbird/amarok |
| 20:33.52 | wasynyt_eee | banshee/vlc |
| 20:33.53 | AlexAnteMachina | songbird? |
| 20:33.58 | AlexAnteMachina | never heard about it. |
| 20:34.02 | wasynyt_eee | www.songbirdnest.org |
| 20:34.07 | wasynyt_eee | goes |
| 20:34.11 | AlexAnteMachina | is it in the repos? |
| 20:34.14 | wasynyt_eee | no |
| 20:55.05 | ychoucha | Thanatermesis, please give me the link on the wiki dev of elive where to explain hw to dev on elive please |
| 20:55.35 | Sugarat | hmm I wonder why my desktop doesnt show for a few seconds after logging in |
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| 21:03.32 | ychoucha | the last realease laag a lot |
| 21:04.47 | AlexAnteMachina | And I wonder where the installed xmms-skins had gone to after install. |
| 21:07.41 | AlexAnteMachina | ha°! |
| 21:07.47 | AlexAnteMachina | got 'em! |
| 21:28.17 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 21:28.23 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt |
| 21:28.26 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 21:28.28 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:28.34 | wasynyt | got back home |
| 21:28.36 | AlexAnteMachina | just found the xmms-skins. |
| 21:28.42 | AlexAnteMachina | i see, i see |
| 21:28.47 | wasynyt | nice |
| 21:28.53 | AlexAnteMachina | now i get a last beer. |
| 21:28.56 | wasynyt | did you check out songbird |
| 21:29.10 | wasynyt | makes a note to self. buy beer |
| 21:31.06 | AlexAnteMachina | donwloading songbird. |
| 21:34.19 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:44.01 | Sugarat | songbird rocks |
| 21:46.53 | wasynyt | good evening Sugarat |
| 21:47.02 | wasynyt | did you solve all your issues? |
| 21:47.13 | wasynyt | likes songbird as well |
| 21:47.34 | Sugarat | hi. most of them thanks... I'm getting there... still have the strange one where it freezes for a few seconds after login.. but other than that I guess its almost perfect hehehe |
| 21:49.15 | wasynyt | great |
| 21:49.16 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:49.20 | Sugarat | :-) |
| 21:49.44 | wasynyt | have you checed that dmesg doesnt show any errors after login |
| 21:49.46 | wasynyt | ? |
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| 22:16.48 | wasynyt | heads to bed |
| 22:16.52 | wasynyt | good night people |
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| 22:56.38 | Elive_user98 | hola a todos |
| 22:56.53 | keyra | Elive_user98: que tal ? |
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| 22:57.24 | Elive_user98 | quiero instalar java en elive |
| 22:57.39 | Elive_user98 | ya lo descargue pero nose como instalarlo me pueden ayudar porfa |
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| 23:15.40 | Eduardo | hola |
| 23:15.54 | keyra | Eduardo: que tal ? |
| 23:16.06 | Eduardo | hola keyra |
| 23:16.20 | keyra | Eduardo: hola |
| 23:16.21 | Eduardo | me ayudas porfavor con elive |
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| 23:17.12 | Eduardo | hola tas ahip |
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| 23:51.07 | Elive_user98 | ayuda en elive |
| 23:51.29 | Elive_user98 | intalar progrma en elive alguien sabe |
| 23:54.18 | Elive_user98 | hola no hay nadie |
| 23:54.33 | keyra | Elive_user98: que tal ? |
| 23:55.08 | Elive_user98 | keyra tu no ayudas gracias |
| 23:55.19 | Elive_user98 | te hago preguntas y o respondes gracias |