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| 02:08.51 | Elive_user51_es | hola |
| 02:08.56 | Elive_user51_es | alguien para charlar? |
| 02:09.06 | keyra | Elive_user51_es: que tal ? |
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| 03:04.59 | Elive_user39_es | hi |
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| 10:30.10 | micz_eccosse | hey quite new to elive is their a process manager pls like kde has sysguard xfce is similar?? |
| 10:30.29 | micz_eccosse | to turn off kill processes |
| 10:31.43 | micz_eccosse | has winamp running on wine and its disappeared to background |
| 10:31.57 | keyra | micz_eccosse: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 10:32.11 | micz_eccosse | somehwere still playing but no gui |
| 10:33.37 | micz_eccosse | keyra thank u for ur tip but has no http browsing abilities due to stupid isp disabling me even though they have the bill money went into telephone acct and not bb sorry |
| 10:33.52 | keyra | micz_eccosse: Im NOT stupid, im binary, im not random, im pure, so.... you stupid human full of errors :P |
| 10:34.41 | micz_eccosse | im not saying that has no browsing caps no http no www get your bb service has been temporary disabled |
| 10:35.29 | micz_eccosse | their problem but cannot get em to put money from telephone acct to bb acct |
| 10:37.07 | micz_eccosse | is there a prog like sysguard etc for elive or have i possibly not added yet cannot get krusader root to work either] |
| 10:38.35 | micz_eccosse | apart from few issues with networking its a nice shiny desktop i do like this, may stick with this fine distro for a bit |
| 10:40.04 | marteo | micz_eccosse, you know top, i suppose ? |
| 10:40.14 | micz_eccosse | yep |
| 10:40.23 | marteo | top, kill, killall are a process manager |
| 10:40.26 | micz_eccosse | top htop same thing |
| 10:51.10 | micz_eccosse | yes works thank u |
| 10:54.16 | micz_eccosse | will stick to xmms until i fix wine up |
| 11:06.26 | micz_eccosse | any u guys know if their is an ftp site can adjust my apt to where i can update some stuff ftp is still working fine\ |
| 11:16.20 | micz_eccosse | duhh |
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| 12:09.01 | marteo | micz_eccosse, what ? |
| 12:09.24 | micz_eccosse | said nothing |
| 12:41.38 | elmo40 | micz_eccosse: why the hell would you run winamp in Linux? |
| 12:42.43 | elmo40 | as for the 'sysguard' type app, you can install them. but using console is the quickest. 'killall wine' |
| 12:45.18 | micz_eccosse | has just added xfce goodies and session manager etc i hope i dont kill it |
| 12:45.45 | micz_eccosse | ahh xfce4 appfinder is showing now |
| 12:48.31 | elmo40 | ya, xfce has a nice gui |
| 12:49.22 | micz_eccosse | yep hasdnt rebooted yet been using xfce for few yrs not into kde so much |
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| 13:02.56 | elmo40 | kde is bloated for what it does |
| 13:03.14 | micz_eccosse | yep is why i use kde |
| 13:03.16 | elmo40 | micz_eccosse: as for my first question, why winamp? xmms isnt good enough for ya? ;) |
| 13:03.21 | micz_eccosse | not at all |
| 13:04.33 | micz_eccosse | no its a dual boot pc and i copy the winamp folder ont partition to use in wine on whatever distro i use and magic iso and various wintools if i have limited functionality |
| 13:05.45 | micz_eccosse | yes xmms is cool its not new winamp its 2.85wa with loads skins avi player plugins mp4 etc etc |
| 13:05.58 | elmo40 | almost all distros come with xmms. and cfdisk (or a gui partitioner) |
| 13:06.11 | elmo40 | vlc, then |
| 13:06.30 | micz_eccosse | yep works fine from windows |
| 13:06.34 | micz_eccosse | vlc |
| 13:06.46 | marteo | what *is* windows ? |
| 13:06.55 | micz_eccosse | yes i know probably sound fuddled |
| 13:07.13 | micz_eccosse | hahaha marteo its the dear one the idiots of the world buy |
| 13:07.43 | micz_eccosse | has gftp and iceweasel browser |
| 13:08.38 | elmo40 | gftp is nice. not quite filezilla, but meh |
| 13:08.39 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 13:08.49 | micz_eccosse | wrong window typin to mate in india too |
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| 13:23.19 | elmo40 | http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3076/earthnight.png |
| 13:23.53 | micz_eccosse | has no http ability so no thanku |
| 13:24.19 | elmo40 | huh? |
| 13:24.22 | elmo40 | why not? |
| 13:25.38 | micz_eccosse | my isp has cut my bb service off the money went into telephone acct and its to hard to retransfer 70quid back out of to bb acct |
| 13:34.23 | elmo40 | so... only bb? and irc? |
| 13:34.27 | elmo40 | *confused* |
| 13:35.45 | micz_eccosse | no www or http anything i can browse ftp sites etc and can dload torrent etc and irc and yahoo works to friends on buddy list |
| 13:35.59 | keyra | micz_eccosse: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website |
| 13:36.06 | elmo40 | wget ? |
| 13:36.31 | micz_eccosse | yes never dloads an iso from any mirrors really |
| 13:36.52 | micz_eccosse | try to stick to main sites and links via distrowatch etc |
| 13:37.07 | micz_eccosse | thats sad use of an elive cd pawn |
| 13:37.57 | micz_eccosse | has dloaded once bluewhite64 torrent file came from them |
| 13:39.21 | micz_eccosse | well may reboot and see what my xfce looks like |
| 13:41.42 | elmo40 | micz_eccosse: dont need to reboot |
| 13:41.46 | elmo40 | just close X |
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| 13:45.25 | micz_eccosse | ctl alt f3 |
| 13:45.41 | micz_eccosse | u mean |
| 13:46.51 | micz_eccosse | yeah whoever it was i have got vlc |
| 13:47.21 | micz_eccosse | will kill all windows i have open if close x |
| 13:47.43 | micz_eccosse | seeya then bbs if xfce works |
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| 14:18.19 | micz_ecosse | x-session failed with exceptions too many arguments or something similar |
| 14:18.56 | micz_ecosse | even installed afterstep to see if other desktop would work |
| 14:19.04 | micz_ecosse | no joy |
| 14:20.41 | micz_ecosse | this version of elive is something i need to upgrade but last time i tried apt-get upgrade it killed boot loader and couldnot fix |
| 14:20.56 | keyra | micz_ecosse: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 14:22.24 | micz_ecosse | so can i choose upgrade in synaptic and then go through and see what i wish and und untick what i dont within reason tryna keep it down about3gb# |
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| 14:23.52 | micz_ecosse | cant anyway just now without proper repository working so no worries bb will be back on sometime when they sort they shit out the dumb isp |
| 14:24.39 | micz_ecosse | why can u not just make ur own isp connection if u have a telephone line |
| 14:25.23 | micz_ecosse | ask house of bullshittahs |
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| 19:52.56 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 19:55.30 | marteo | hello |
| 19:55.49 | marteo | eh, I saw one thing |
| 19:55.54 | marteo | about the translations |
| 19:56.29 | marteo | the french translations are marked as finished, in majority |
| 19:57.04 | marteo | but the testing CD from end 2009-03 had poor fr translations |
| 19:57.08 | marteo | is that ok ? |
| 19:57.23 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 19:58.03 | wasynyt | well the language that is used in many places in elive is in its own class.. so direct translations are odd at best |
| 19:58.18 | keyra | wasynyt: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 19:58.25 | marteo | uh, dont understand |
| 19:59.09 | marteo | keyra, the work proposed by eltrans is finished |
| 20:00.25 | wasynyt | well when someone who is not native english speaking writes english it will be somewhat different from "standart" english |
| 20:00.25 | keyra | marteo: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 20:00.25 | marteo | (4-5 errors,that I have corrected in my own PC) |
| 20:00.25 | wasynyt | so it needs to be cleanded up before it can be translated |
| 20:00.25 | wasynyt | marteo: email thanatermesis about it |
| 20:00.26 | marteo | eh, should I ? |
| 20:00.30 | ikevin | if you would to send translation |
| 20:00.54 | ikevin | use collaborator form to get an eltrans account |
| 20:01.18 | marteo | I'm not that audacious... sure, I'd be glad to help. But I just donnt understand the system |
| 20:01.23 | marteo | one example : |
| 20:02.02 | marteo | the french translations in eltrans are (almost) complete and correct |
| 20:02.32 | marteo | but all elive is not in eltrans |
| 20:02.56 | ikevin | all software can't be translated |
| 20:03.31 | wasynyt | and all software is not eltrans compatible, or other way around |
| 20:03.35 | marteo | I understand this. But the elive main menu, the elpanel... that can be translated (and is not) |
| 20:04.35 | marteo | connard |
| 20:04.49 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 20:04.50 | marteo | sorry, bad window |
| 20:05.09 | marteo | forget 22.02 |
| 20:05.16 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:05.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:05.23 | marteo | :s |
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| 20:05.54 | Elive_user83 | hello |
| 20:06.20 | marteo | hi |
| 20:06.59 | Elive_user83 | trying out this Elive 1.0 Gem here |
| 20:07.08 | Elive_user83 | found x chat ...figured I'd talk lol |
| 20:07.44 | ikevin | ha ben ça c'est de la poésie marteo ! XD |
| 20:08.29 | wasynyt | Elive_user83: heh |
| 20:08.35 | wasynyt | welcome |
| 20:08.44 | marteo | je me suis trompé de fenêtre, je te dis... ^^ |
| 20:10.24 | marteo | ikevin, I assume youre not french... because of the ç... it's unusual in a french chat. |
| 20:10.40 | ikevin | je suis français |
| 20:10.48 | marteo | bravo pour la cédille alors |
| 20:11.05 | marteo | :D je la mets plutôt rarement... pas envie de chercher la touche |
| 20:11.46 | ikevin | je suis tres mauvais en orthographe, et comme je dois m'améliorer, je fais des efforts |
| 20:12.02 | marteo | euh, jusque là ca va... |
| 20:12.06 | marteo | *ça :D |
| 20:12.22 | ikevin | j'ai des jours "avec" et des jours sans lol |
| 20:12.39 | marteo | je pense qu'on les effraie un peu, les anglophones... |
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| 20:13.18 | marteo | hey, wasynyt, are'nt you disturbed by our french blabbering ? |
| 20:13.19 | ikevin | je pense pas moi, j'en ai vu beaucoup essayer de parler le français sur ce canal |
| 20:13.25 | marteo | pas faux |
| 20:14.10 | marteo | tu fais quoi comme job/études ? |
| 20:14.45 | ikevin | j'ai fini mes études, je suis developpeur / admin réseau dans une SSII |
| 20:14.46 | ikevin | et toi? |
| 20:15.11 | marteo | olé... maths sup |
| 20:15.18 | ikevin | gg |
| 20:15.34 | marteo | merci |
| 20:15.53 | ikevin | j'me suis arrêté au BEP pour ma part XD |
| 20:16.15 | marteo | écoute, si tu fais ce que t'aimes faire... |
| 20:16.30 | ikevin | tout à fait |
| 20:17.17 | ikevin | et qu'en plus ça paye ^^' |
| 20:17.37 | marteo | tu as déjà fait des traductions pour elive ? pour revenir à ma question de départ ^^ |
| 20:18.18 | ikevin | non pas encore |
| 20:22.01 | marteo | en fait c'est sympa leur système... |
| 20:22.20 | marteo | quoiqu'incomplet, en fait, je pense |
| 20:24.58 | ikevin | ouep je connais |
| 20:25.19 | ikevin | je bosse régulièrement avec thana et tests ses codes |
| 20:26.11 | marteo | dis, en fait |
| 20:26.38 | marteo | les mots à traduire sont recherchés et extraits de la source par un programme, c'est ca ? |
| 20:27.55 | ikevin | pour eltrans? |
| 20:28.09 | keyra | ikevin: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 20:29.25 | marteo | oui |
| 20:29.46 | marteo | keyr a, c'est un bot ? |
| 20:29.58 | ikevin | oui |
| 20:30.07 | marteo | ok. alors poedit |
| 20:30.21 | keyra | marteo: if you want to use eltrans (in gem), install first poedit and do this configuration: File -> preferences -> disable the 'compile .mo files' option. And also go to the View tab and unselect both options about 'show comments' |
| 20:30.27 | ikevin | je pense pas que thana soit allé si loin pou eltrans |
| 20:30.42 | marteo | ok |
| 20:34.33 | marteo | tiens c'est vachement intéressant ca, poedit |
| 20:34.51 | marteo | débugger, trducteur et éditeur de texte. |
| 20:35.00 | marteo | pas con, pas con. |
| 20:56.59 | marteo | ++ folks |
| 20:57.11 | marteo | goin to bed ^^ |
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