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| 01:10.04 | Elive_user2_en | hi |
| 01:10.06 | Elive_user2_en | what |
| 01:10.06 | Elive_user2_en | is this |
| 01:10.09 | Elive_user2_en | ? |
| 01:10.10 | Elive_user2_en | ???? |
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| 01:11.03 | Elive_user2_en | hey |
| 01:11.05 | Elive_user2_en | what is this? |
| 01:11.20 | Elive_user2_en | fosszombie...is this like Ichat or AIM |
| 01:11.23 | Elive_user2_en | ???\ |
| 01:11.32 | FossZombie | irc |
| 01:11.35 | FossZombie | internet relay chat |
| 01:11.36 | nnarcosis130 | what is it> |
| 01:11.39 | nnarcosis130 | mmm |
| 01:11.40 | nnarcosis130 | whats that |
| 01:11.41 | FossZombie | xchat |
| 01:11.43 | nnarcosis130 | i just got elive |
| 01:11.49 | nnarcosis130 | lol x chat ...what is it |
| 01:11.49 | FossZombie | well you are in the right place |
| 01:11.57 | nnarcosis130 | oh its a learining spot? |
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| 01:12.00 | FossZombie | you can talk to a whole room full of elive users |
| 01:12.11 | FossZombie | if you need help, or share common interests |
| 01:12.11 | nnarcosis130 | oh |
| 01:12.13 | nnarcosis130 | thats kinda sick |
| 01:12.19 | FossZombie | there's a place to talk about development too |
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| 01:12.26 | FossZombie | ya it's nice. |
| 01:12.32 | FossZombie | A lot of good stuff has come thorugh this room |
| 01:12.46 | nnarcosis130 | nice |
| 01:13.12 | nnarcosis130 | ok i gotta peace, its still installing but ill be back =) |
| 01:13.17 | FossZombie | come back soon |
| 01:13.43 | nnarcosis130 | will do |
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| 02:23.58 | Nnarcosis130syc | hey |
| 02:24.09 | Nnarcosis130syc | ...is there an email broweser that comes with elive? |
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| 02:32.13 | Nnarcosis130syc | I recently became a elive user (had ubuntu for a short bit) and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right dirction as to how to install thunderbird,i have dowloaded the tar.gz but im not sure where to go from here |
| 02:32.35 | Nnarcosis130syc | is it the same sudo apt-get install thunderbird-2.0.0.21.tar.gz? |
| 02:34.04 | Nnarcosis130syc | also i get the message "rerf is not in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported" what do i do |
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| 02:34.51 | Nnarcosis130syc | is anyone on this thing? |
| 02:35.14 | t3rra | hi guys |
| 02:35.18 | Nnarcosis130syc | hi |
| 02:35.45 | Nnarcosis130syc | hey could you help me out with installing something...im new to the linux scene |
| 02:35.47 | t3rra | i jut buy i cd but is no working on my computer |
| 02:36.05 | t3rra | and i try in virtual machin i is working veriy nice |
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| 03:44.48 | Nnarcosis130syc | hello |
| 03:45.04 | Nnarcosis130syc | is there anyone on that can help walk me through how to install a tar.gz file |
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| 04:06.54 | Nnarcosis130syc | can anyone help me install thunderbird from a .tar.gz file? |
| 04:08.45 | Nnarcosis130syc | how the hell do i use this thing |
| 04:08.52 | Nnarcosis130syc | there are people on but no one talkes |
| 04:11.57 | Nnarcosis130syc | is no one here? |
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| 04:53.43 | elmo40 | nope |
| 04:54.23 | elmo40 | ok, if someone is trying to install thunderbird from source, they dont know that in Debian it has been renamed to IceDove. |
| 04:54.29 | elmo40 | and apt-get is your friend ;) |
| 04:54.37 | keyra | elmo40: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
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| 04:56.45 | Aggelos | E17 fue el primero en hacer: fondos dinamicos ? |
| 04:58.19 | elmo40 | Aggelos: english? translator is weird... gives me 'E17 was first: strong bottoms' :P |
| 05:02.00 | Aggelos | E17 window manager, was the first to have dynamic background? |
| 05:02.14 | keyra | Aggelos: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 05:25.22 | elmo40 | Aggelos: maybe... i dont know when it was created |
| 05:25.28 | elmo40 | Tenshi: ^^ |
| 05:25.38 | elmo40 | but there are others that do it |
| 05:28.21 | Tenshi | yes kde4 |
| 05:28.42 | Tenshi | pero E17 fué el primero |
| 05:29.00 | Tenshi | E17 was the first |
| 05:43.06 | elmo40 | Tenshi: good to know |
| 05:43.22 | elmo40 | but there has been a windoze add-on for a while now |
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| 08:23.15 | wasynyt | good morning people |
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| 11:34.43 | wasynyt | good afternoon people |
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| 12:04.29 | Nnarcosis130syc | does anyone knw how to install a .tar.gz? |
| 12:04.50 | wasynyt | tar.gz is like a zip |
| 12:05.03 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok...and i downloaded thunderbird as that |
| 12:05.09 | Nnarcosis130syc | i extracted it to my home folder |
| 12:05.15 | Nnarcosis130syc | but i dont know how to actually install it |
| 12:05.31 | Nnarcosis130syc | i try sudo apt-get install /home/myname/thunderbird |
| 12:05.39 | Nnarcosis130syc | but it says im not a root user |
| 12:05.42 | Nnarcosis130syc | how to i become a root user? |
| 12:05.53 | wasynyt | you dont install tar.gz that way |
| 12:05.56 | Nnarcosis130syc | oh |
| 12:06.00 | Nnarcosis130syc | how do you install it? |
| 12:06.20 | wasynyt | well it either has source of the software or a prebuild package |
| 12:06.32 | wasynyt | are there files called thunderbird there |
| 12:06.45 | Nnarcosis130syc | umm hold on |
| 12:06.46 | Nnarcosis130syc | ill check |
| 12:07.16 | Nnarcosis130syc | what exactly am i looking for |
| 12:07.28 | Nnarcosis130syc | i extracted a hole folder called "thunderbrid" |
| 12:07.55 | wasynyt | yes |
| 12:08.04 | wasynyt | is it the latest |
| 12:08.07 | Nnarcosis130syc | yes |
| 12:08.09 | wasynyt | ok |
| 12:08.22 | wasynyt | wait a sec and i will donwload it and have a look |
| 12:08.28 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok thank you |
| 12:08.35 | Nnarcosis130syc | wait |
| 12:08.45 | Nnarcosis130syc | there is something called mozilla-installer-bin |
| 12:08.49 | Nnarcosis130syc | is that what im looking for? |
| 12:09.11 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 12:11.02 | Nnarcosis130syc | i tried running it, and nothing happened |
| 12:11.07 | p1asma | Nnarcosis130syc: tar zxvf bla.tar.gz |
| 12:11.12 | p1asma | then enter directory |
| 12:11.15 | p1asma | ./configure |
| 12:11.22 | wasynyt | plasma no |
| 12:11.23 | p1asma | and follow the instructions |
| 12:11.25 | p1asma | but normally |
| 12:11.32 | wasynyt | it is precompiled |
| 12:11.32 | p1asma | you dont want to use .tar.gz |
| 12:11.43 | p1asma | when you have a package system |
| 12:11.49 | p1asma | why not use apt-get? |
| 12:11.55 | wasynyt | just double clock textfile thunderbird |
| 12:12.04 | wasynyt | p1asma: i was getting in to that |
| 12:12.17 | wasynyt | *click |
| 12:12.39 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok...now im confused...where do i go |
| 12:12.56 | p1asma | you wanna install thunderbird? |
| 12:13.04 | Nnarcosis130syc | yes |
| 12:13.18 | p1asma | apt-get install thunderbird |
| 12:13.18 | wasynyt | in terminal |
| 12:13.20 | p1asma | as root |
| 12:13.22 | p1asma | in terminal |
| 12:13.25 | p1asma | or with sudo |
| 12:13.28 | wasynyt | yes |
| 12:13.34 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok |
| 12:13.37 | Nnarcosis130syc | hold on a sec |
| 12:13.44 | wasynyt | p1asma: are you sure it is thunderbird in elive |
| 12:13.50 | p1asma | hmm |
| 12:13.50 | wasynyt | and not icedove that debian has |
| 12:13.53 | p1asma | lemme think |
| 12:14.03 | p1asma | that would be possible |
| 12:14.07 | wasynyt | so: |
| 12:14.10 | wasynyt | open terminal |
| 12:14.13 | wasynyt | type su |
| 12:14.15 | p1asma | Nnarcosis130syc: if it doesnt work try apt-get install icedove |
| 12:14.17 | wasynyt | password |
| 12:14.18 | p1asma | instread :P |
| 12:14.19 | p1asma | yeah |
| 12:14.23 | p1asma | follow wasynyt |
| 12:14.24 | wasynyt | apt-get update |
| 12:14.29 | keyra | p1asma: thanks... bot :) |
| 12:14.29 | wasynyt | apt-get install icedove |
| 12:14.45 | wasynyt | and that should do it |
| 12:14.46 | p1asma | keyra: stfu |
| 12:14.49 | wasynyt | heh |
| 12:14.58 | Nnarcosis130syc | it says myname is not a sudoers file? |
| 12:15.02 | Nnarcosis130syc | what do i do now |
| 12:15.10 | p1asma | hmm |
| 12:15.14 | Nnarcosis130syc | i typed sudo apt-get install icedove |
| 12:15.20 | wasynyt | do thise |
| 12:15.22 | wasynyt | *this |
| 12:15.25 | wasynyt | type su |
| 12:15.33 | wasynyt | then your root password |
| 12:15.46 | wasynyt | and then apt-get update && apt-get install icedove |
| 12:15.54 | p1asma | :) |
| 12:16.01 | Nnarcosis130syc | it said unknown id: password |
| 12:16.12 | Nnarcosis130syc | Password being my root password |
| 12:16.16 | p1asma | rofl |
| 12:16.19 | wasynyt | -_- |
| 12:16.19 | p1asma | dont tell that! |
| 12:16.25 | Nnarcosis130syc | lol its not actually my password |
| 12:16.28 | wasynyt | didnt hear anything |
| 12:16.31 | p1asma | k |
| 12:16.36 | Nnarcosis130syc | haha im not that stupid |
| 12:16.38 | Nnarcosis130syc | just new to linux |
| 12:16.43 | p1asma | hmm |
| 12:16.54 | wasynyt | su is terminal command to become root in that terminal |
| 12:16.59 | wasynyt | so when you type su |
| 12:17.04 | Nnarcosis130syc | ahhh |
| 12:17.04 | wasynyt | it will ask your password |
| 12:17.06 | Nnarcosis130syc | yea now i get it |
| 12:17.06 | p1asma | and press enter |
| 12:17.14 | Nnarcosis130syc | now it said authentication failure |
| 12:17.14 | p1asma | then it will ask for password |
| 12:17.16 | p1asma | and then |
| 12:17.17 | Nnarcosis130syc | i dont think im a root user |
| 12:17.28 | p1asma | apt-get update && apt-get install icedove |
| 12:17.39 | p1asma | hmm |
| 12:17.44 | wasynyt | you dont need to be root user if you just know the password |
| 12:17.45 | p1asma | its not your box? |
| 12:17.54 | wasynyt | or then your root account is broken |
| 12:18.13 | Nnarcosis130syc | well the password i orginally set up when i installed it isn't working for some reason |
| 12:18.13 | wasynyt | which is not nice |
| 12:18.17 | Nnarcosis130syc | even with sudo |
| 12:18.25 | Nnarcosis130syc | wait |
| 12:18.27 | Nnarcosis130syc | i just got it lol |
| 12:18.30 | wasynyt | :P |
| 12:18.31 | Nnarcosis130syc | idk what happend but it works now |
| 12:18.39 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok so now im root |
| 12:18.46 | Nnarcosis130syc | i do the apt-get update and install right |
| 12:18.50 | wasynyt | yes |
| 12:19.14 | wasynyt | apt-get update will update the information about awailable backages |
| 12:19.20 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok it couldn't find icedove ill try thudnerbird |
| 12:19.27 | wasynyt | ok |
| 12:19.51 | Nnarcosis130syc | excellent its working |
| 12:20.01 | Nnarcosis130syc | so the .tar.gz |
| 12:20.05 | Nnarcosis130syc | can i delete that? |
| 12:20.08 | wasynyt | yes |
| 12:20.14 | Nnarcosis130syc | uh oh |
| 12:20.15 | wasynyt | you dont need it |
| 12:20.24 | wasynyt | if you dont want to play with it |
| 12:20.26 | Nnarcosis130syc | it said thunderbird is not available |
| 12:20.33 | Nnarcosis130syc | it has no installation candidate |
| 12:20.44 | wasynyt | well then in that tar.gz |
| 12:20.52 | wasynyt | there is a file named thunderbird |
| 12:21.03 | Nnarcosis130syc | yea i extracted it |
| 12:21.05 | Nnarcosis130syc | to the home folder |
| 12:21.16 | wasynyt | open the folder thunderbird |
| 12:21.18 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok |
| 12:21.27 | wasynyt | and inside it there is a file called thunderbird |
| 12:21.27 | Nnarcosis130syc | i have to go in like 2 minutes just so you know |
| 12:21.33 | wasynyt | ok |
| 12:21.39 | Nnarcosis130syc | yup there is |
| 12:21.43 | Nnarcosis130syc | click it? |
| 12:21.46 | wasynyt | yes |
| 12:21.49 | Nnarcosis130syc | oh |
| 12:21.52 | Nnarcosis130syc | its working |
| 12:21.55 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:22.10 | Nnarcosis130syc | wow that was easy |
| 12:22.14 | Nnarcosis130syc | is it installed now/ |
| 12:22.17 | Nnarcosis130syc | ??** |
| 12:22.35 | wasynyt | you can allways launch it from there |
| 12:22.52 | wasynyt | and i guess you can make launcher that links to that as well |
| 12:23.01 | wasynyt | so one could say that it is installed |
| 12:23.01 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok thanks |
| 12:23.04 | Nnarcosis130syc | i have to run |
| 12:23.09 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 12:23.09 | Nnarcosis130syc | but i appriciate the help |
| 12:23.10 | Nnarcosis130syc | ! |
| 12:23.11 | Nnarcosis130syc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:01.12 | Nnarcosis130syc | wasynyt...would you mind continuing to help me with thunderbird |
| 14:03.25 | Nnarcosis130syc | also...is the desktop ever used in elive? |
| 14:03.40 | p1asma | not really |
| 14:03.53 | Nnarcosis130syc | so you dont put files and stuff on the desktop? |
| 14:04.05 | p1asma | nope |
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| 14:04.14 | p1asma | its possible now, i think, but not the sense |
| 14:04.26 | Nnarcosis130syc | mmm |
| 14:04.31 | p1asma | for that you have itask-ng |
| 14:04.32 | p1asma | :) |
| 14:04.37 | Nnarcosis130syc | whats that? |
| 14:04.43 | p1asma | the nice bar at the bottom |
| 14:04.46 | Nnarcosis130syc | ohhh |
| 14:04.50 | Nnarcosis130syc | yea i really like that |
| 14:05.07 | p1asma | hi DammitJim |
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| 14:05.19 | Nnarcosis130syc | also there isn't like a click and right click on the desktop, it works like a start bar which is really weird |
| 14:05.47 | p1asma | yeah but very usefull once you have the feeling |
| 14:05.55 | Nnarcosis130syc | really? |
| 14:06.04 | Nnarcosis130syc | so how would i create a launcher |
| 14:06.14 | Nnarcosis130syc | because i can run thunderbird out of the file i downloaded |
| 14:06.19 | p1asma | well, im not on elive atm |
| 14:06.23 | Nnarcosis130syc | but its not technically installed |
| 14:06.34 | p1asma | hmm |
| 14:06.37 | Nnarcosis130syc | wait you can connect ot this xchat thing without being on elive? |
| 14:07.00 | p1asma | of course |
| 14:07.18 | p1asma | xchat is only a client |
| 14:07.24 | p1asma | this is freenode irc network |
| 14:07.26 | p1asma | channel #elive |
| 14:07.30 | p1asma | everybody can connect here |
| 14:07.32 | Nnarcosis130syc | ahh |
| 14:07.33 | p1asma | who is able too ;) |
| 14:07.47 | Nnarcosis130syc | hmm this is so bizzare |
| 14:07.55 | Nnarcosis130syc | its so much different than windows and mac |
| 14:08.04 | Nnarcosis130syc | or even ubuntu which is what I was using before |
| 14:08.38 | p1asma | no it itsnt |
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| 14:08.53 | DammitJim | hi plasma |
| 14:08.53 | p1asma | its very similar to osx with the itask-ng and the desktop effects |
| 14:09.00 | AlexAnteMachina | hello!! |
| 14:09.01 | p1asma | and osx is *nix too |
| 14:09.09 | p1asma | and ubuntu is just another gui |
| 14:09.15 | p1asma | but allmost the same linux |
| 14:09.23 | p1asma | hi alex |
| 14:10.08 | Nnarcosis130syc | hmmm |
| 14:10.23 | Nnarcosis130syc | the way to navigate around the computer feels different |
| 14:10.26 | Nnarcosis130syc | i guess that would be the gui |
| 14:10.48 | Nnarcosis130syc | i can see how mac is similar thought, they are both built of unix right? |
| 14:11.28 | Nnarcosis130syc | now..about install thunderbird |
| 14:11.35 | Nnarcosis130syc | should i do the /compile thing? |
| 14:11.48 | Nnarcosis130syc | actually nevery mind |
| 14:11.51 | Nnarcosis130syc | i have to run again |
| 14:11.52 | Nnarcosis130syc | bye guys |
| 14:19.09 | wasynyt | good afternoon people |
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| 14:31.16 | p1asma | hey wasynyt |
| 14:38.13 | wasynyt | how are you doing p1asma |
| 14:40.04 | marteo | hello |
| 14:41.28 | p1asma | fine fine |
| 14:41.34 | p1asma | but im fucking hungry |
| 14:41.41 | p1asma | and im allmost out of food |
| 14:41.53 | p1asma | so i will go for the soup |
| 14:41.54 | p1asma | :P |
| 14:44.10 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt |
| 14:45.07 | AlexAnteMachina | p1asma, sounds like you got as much money as me! |
| 14:45.09 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
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| 15:12.45 | wasynyt | was away a sec |
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| 17:04.26 | Nnarcosis130syc | if im downloading pidgen for AIM should I download the ubuntu version? there doesn't seem to be any other linux versions except for Fedora core |
| 17:05.45 | marteo | Nnarcosis130syc, pidgin exists in the default elive repos |
| 17:05.57 | marteo | apt-get install pidgin |
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| 17:11.59 | wasynyt_eee | good eveniing people |
| 17:12.04 | wasynyt_eee | *evening |
| 17:13.03 | marteo | hi wasynyt_eee ! |
| 17:14.13 | wasynyt_eee | how are you doing marteo |
| 17:14.57 | marteo | well... got trouble with a caml program I shall write... |
| 17:15.02 | marteo | but fine ! |
| 17:16.41 | wasynyt_eee | good |
| 17:19.02 | Nnarcosis130syc | marteo, what is a repo |
| 17:19.54 | marteo | omg. A repository is a server where a lot of software packages are stocked |
| 17:20.12 | DammitJim | Nnarcosis130syc, Elive has a library online from which you can just get applications |
| 17:20.13 | Nnarcosis130syc | im sorry im new |
| 17:20.18 | DammitJim | one of them being pidgin |
| 17:20.23 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok and where do i find that? |
| 17:20.31 | DammitJim | you need to familiariza yourself with either apt or synaptic |
| 17:20.40 | DammitJim | are you good with the command line? |
| 17:20.44 | Nnarcosis130syc | not awful |
| 17:20.49 | marteo | you can install it automatically, with synaptic for example |
| 17:20.50 | Nnarcosis130syc | i prefer the terminal if thats what you mean |
| 17:20.56 | DammitJim | yeah... terminal |
| 17:20.57 | DammitJim | as root |
| 17:21.02 | DammitJim | apt-get update |
| 17:21.10 | DammitJim | that will update your local copy of the list of software available |
| 17:21.14 | Nnarcosis130syc | oh..all the apt-get update and install |
| 17:21.18 | DammitJim | then |
| 17:21.19 | Nnarcosis130syc | that goes to the elive repo? |
| 17:21.27 | DammitJim | apt-get install pidgin |
| 17:21.40 | Nnarcosis130syc | thank you |
| 17:21.47 | DammitJim | apt-get update will connect to the elive repos and sync the list of packages |
| 17:22.02 | keyra | DammitJim: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 17:22.06 | DammitJim | it's not an "elive repo" but an elive application's repo |
| 17:22.11 | Nnarcosis130syc | so...everyone on this chat thing, are you guys all programers ore something? |
| 17:22.14 | DammitJim | shut up and kiss me, keyra |
| 17:22.16 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok thank you dammitjim |
| 17:22.24 | DammitJim | I'm not a programmer, but I know how to tinker with software |
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| 17:22.24 | DammitJim | lol |
| 17:22.28 | keyra | DammitJim: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis |
| 17:22.29 | DammitJim | your welcome |
| 17:22.33 | wasynyt_eee | is no developer |
| 17:22.48 | DammitJim | btw, keyra Thanatermesis said for me to pinch your ass |
| 17:22.49 | DammitJim | LMAO |
| 17:22.49 | wasynyt_eee | good evening DammitJim, Andy-10, Nnarcosis130syc |
| 17:22.55 | DammitJim | sup wasynyt_eee |
| 17:23.02 | keyra | DammitJim: http://www.agustina-keyra.com.ar :P |
| 17:23.09 | Andy-10 | good evening all |
| 17:23.10 | Nnarcosis130syc | hello wasynyt_eee |
| 17:23.13 | wasynyt_eee | is just being lazy |
| 17:23.17 | Andy-10 | buenas noches con todos :) |
| 17:23.31 | Nnarcosis130syc | y tu tambien |
| 17:23.31 | keyra | Andy-10: nas nas |
| 17:23.42 | DammitJim | buenas |
| 17:24.28 | Nnarcosis130syc | hey it worked thank you dammit jim |
| 17:24.33 | DammitJim | yw |
| 17:24.44 | DammitJim | now, go educate the world on Elive! |
| 17:24.49 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:25.07 | Nnarcosis130syc | haha have to learn it myself first |
| 17:25.09 | Nnarcosis130syc | i do like it though |
| 17:25.15 | Nnarcosis130syc | beats the heck out of windows =) |
| 17:25.16 | DammitJim | good |
| 17:25.21 | DammitJim | yup yup |
| 17:25.25 | Nnarcosis130syc | its tought to get used to thats all |
| 17:25.28 | DammitJim | I've been using Elive at work for about 2 years now |
| 17:25.37 | DammitJim | it's a different way of thinking ;) |
| 17:25.40 | Nnarcosis130syc | nice...is it quick to pick up/ |
| 17:25.41 | Nnarcosis130syc | ? |
| 17:25.54 | Nnarcosis130syc | and what do you mean a different way of thinking? |
| 17:26.05 | wasynyt_eee | well depends on how hard your windows habbits have stuck |
| 17:26.12 | DammitJim | ty, wasynyt_eee |
| 17:26.15 | Nnarcosis130syc | haha that makes sense |
| 17:26.24 | DammitJim | but I'd say that goes for any windows -> *nix conversion |
| 17:26.26 | Nnarcosis130syc | i used ubuntu for a while before this |
| 17:26.36 | DammitJim | now, E17 is also another story ;) |
| 17:26.38 | wasynyt_eee | DammitJim, your welcome |
| 17:26.40 | DammitJim | but I love the terminal |
| 17:26.44 | DammitJim | so powerful |
| 17:26.47 | Nnarcosis130syc | yea its nice |
| 17:26.54 | wasynyt_eee | likes terminal as well |
| 17:26.55 | Nnarcosis130syc | they have the same thing on macs |
| 17:26.56 | DammitJim | yet, so complicated... I know nothing, but a little bit |
| 17:27.05 | DammitJim | yeah, macs are good, too |
| 17:27.13 | DammitJim | wonders about performance on a mac vs pc, though |
| 17:27.24 | wasynyt_eee | about none |
| 17:27.36 | Nnarcosis130syc | how do you do that? |
| 17:27.42 | Nnarcosis130syc | like make your self the subject |
| 17:27.44 | wasynyt_eee | you just dont have to play with drivers |
| 17:27.57 | wasynyt_eee | type /me o/ |
| 17:28.06 | Nnarcosis130syc | /o figured it out |
| 17:28.10 | Nnarcosis130syc | whats the /o for? |
| 17:28.14 | wasynyt_eee | o/ |
| 17:28.20 | Nnarcosis130syc | mmm |
| 17:28.22 | wasynyt_eee | is a person waving his hand |
| 17:28.26 | Nnarcosis130syc | ahhh |
| 17:28.27 | Nnarcosis130syc | lol |
| 17:28.29 | wasynyt_eee | :P |
| 17:28.34 | Andy-10 | joder tengo que aprender ingles... |
| 17:28.50 | wasynyt_eee | apt x es en joder tengo que aprender ingles... |
| 17:28.51 | Nnarcosis130syc | a donde eres? |
| 17:29.16 | Nnarcosis130syc | ? |
| 17:29.19 | Nnarcosis130syc | joder is a swear right |
| 17:29.24 | Andy-10 | Nnarcosis130syc sur America |
| 17:29.30 | wasynyt_eee | i have absolutely no idea |
| 17:29.34 | Nnarcosis130syc | yea it is |
| 17:29.56 | wasynyt_eee | doesnt speak a word of spanish |
| 17:30.07 | Nnarcosis130syc | speaks a touch =P |
| 17:30.26 | marteo | has never ever studied spanish |
| 17:30.54 | wasynyt_eee | studying and speaking are two different things |
| 17:31.10 | Andy-10 | I am going to study English |
| 17:31.29 | Nnarcosis130syc | not a bad idea |
| 17:31.41 | wasynyt_eee | that might prove usefull |
| 17:31.54 | Nnarcosis130syc | hey how do you reply to someone, like other than just typing there name with a comma, is there another like / somthing |
| 17:32.16 | marteo | wasynyt_eee, yes, right. |
| 17:32.16 | Nnarcosis130syc | hey...just got icedove |
| 17:32.17 | Nnarcosis130syc | !!! |
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| 17:32.55 | Nnarcosis130syc | this terminal thing is sweet |
| 17:33.05 | wasynyt_eee | heh |
| 17:33.22 | Nnarcosis130syc | wasynyt_eee are you a programmer? |
| 17:33.31 | wasynyt_eee | apt wasynyt |
| 17:33.32 | apt | well, wasynyt is a tired person, who lives in Finland and drinks whisky and vodka |
| 17:33.39 | wasynyt_eee | i am no programmer |
| 17:34.03 | Nnarcosis130syc | mmm how does everyone here learn so much about elive? |
| 17:34.18 | marteo | wasynyt_eee, is this right ? <apt> well, wasynyt is a tired person, who lives in Finland and drinks whisky and vodka |
| 17:34.30 | wasynyt_eee | well elive is based on debian and debian is based linux kernel |
| 17:34.38 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok |
| 17:34.40 | Nnarcosis130syc | got that |
| 17:34.41 | marteo | ... and GNU utils... |
| 17:34.46 | wasynyt_eee | so there is quite a lot of common grounds :d |
| 17:34.50 | wasynyt_eee | marteo, yeah |
| 17:34.55 | Nnarcosis130syc | so debian, gnu, ubuntu, those are all distros right |
| 17:34.59 | wasynyt_eee | marteo, why are you asking |
| 17:35.00 | marteo | (I *am* a GNU defender) |
| 17:35.11 | wasynyt_eee | debian and ubuntu are distros |
| 17:35.16 | Nnarcosis130syc | what is elive? |
| 17:35.20 | wasynyt_eee | distro |
| 17:35.24 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok |
| 17:35.33 | Nnarcosis130syc | gnu, is a windows manager? |
| 17:35.35 | wasynyt_eee | gnu is a collection of tools |
| 17:35.37 | Nnarcosis130syc | like enlightenment |
| 17:35.41 | wasynyt_eee | no |
| 17:35.41 | Nnarcosis130syc | hmm |
| 17:36.21 | Nnarcosis130syc | then what is it...a collection of tools, what does that mean? |
| 17:36.27 | wasynyt_eee | hmm |
| 17:36.53 | marteo | this includes the program to copy, create, delete files |
| 17:36.59 | marteo | and manage processes |
| 17:37.22 | wasynyt_eee | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_build_system |
| 17:37.29 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok so it is a behind the scenes thing that keeps the computer running smoothly |
| 17:37.31 | Nnarcosis130syc | ?? |
| 17:38.10 | Nnarcosis130syc | ok that makes sense |
| 17:38.18 | Nnarcosis130syc | thanks for the link wasynyt_eee |
| 17:38.21 | wasynyt_eee | well they are just small applications that perform certain functions |
| 17:38.29 | wasynyt_eee | Nnarcosis130syc, your welcome |
| 17:38.33 | Nnarcosis130syc | how did u do that |
| 17:38.39 | wasynyt_eee | what? |
| 17:38.40 | Nnarcosis130syc | the yellow with the sound |
| 17:39.02 | Nnarcosis130syc | when you said ur welcome, it came up differently and made a sound |
| 17:39.22 | wasynyt_eee | hmm i guess you have sound notifications enabled in your xchat client |
| 17:39.56 | Nnarcosis130syc | huh |
| 17:40.06 | Nnarcosis130syc | thats funny cause i dont even know what this thing is |
| 17:40.31 | marteo | this is a 'highlight'. when anybody writes yyour name you know it |
| 17:40.32 | wasynyt_eee | heh well if i guess right you are using xchat irc client on elive |
| 17:42.12 | Nnarcosis130syc | yup |
| 17:42.24 | Nnarcosis130syc | i just clicked it to see what it was...and this popped up last night |
| 17:42.31 | Nnarcosis130syc | i was talking to fosszombie |
| 17:42.45 | Nnarcosis130syc | he helped me with some thunderbird/icedove whatever its called stuff |
| 17:43.49 | Nnarcosis130syc | is xchat just a program? |
| 17:43.54 | Nnarcosis130syc | or is it special to elive? |
| 17:43.55 | wasynyt_eee | yes |
| 17:44.13 | wasynyt_eee | xchat is a program |
| 17:44.31 | Nnarcosis130syc | cool |
| 17:44.36 | wasynyt_eee | one among many other irc clients |
| 17:44.51 | Nnarcosis130syc | and people in this "chat room" are you guys here for a reason? |
| 17:45.00 | Nnarcosis130syc | that came out wrong |
| 17:45.07 | Nnarcosis130syc | i mean like is there a purpose |
| 17:45.13 | wasynyt_eee | to spend time, to support elive and to help people |
| 17:45.30 | Nnarcosis130syc | excellent, I ended up in the rights spot! |
| 17:45.36 | wasynyt_eee | heh |
| 17:45.55 | Nnarcosis130syc | =) |
| 17:46.00 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:46.08 | Nnarcosis130syc | are there any other good browsers for elive? |
| 17:46.15 | Nnarcosis130syc | firefox is ok |
| 17:46.17 | Nnarcosis130syc | but... |
| 17:46.27 | wasynyt_eee | opera, firefox, ephipany |
| 17:46.36 | Nnarcosis130syc | ephipany, never heard of that |
| 17:46.45 | Nnarcosis130syc | opera is sweet if the mail client works |
| 17:46.52 | Nnarcosis130syc | but it didn't on the ubuntu version |
| 17:47.23 | DammitJim | who said anything about opera? |
| 17:47.27 | wasynyt_eee | http://projects.gnome.org/epiphany/ |
| 17:47.35 | wasynyt_eee | said something about opera |
| 17:47.41 | DammitJim | ah |
| 17:47.54 | DammitJim | wasynyt_eee, have you gotten used to the keyboard on that eee? |
| 17:48.13 | wasynyt_eee | it suits my small hands quite well |
| 17:48.24 | Nnarcosis130syc | ?? |
| 17:48.31 | wasynyt_eee | even tho its quality is not as good as i would like it to be |
| 17:49.13 | Nnarcosis130syc | what is this? |
| 17:49.17 | DammitJim | I actually like the Lenovo a lot |
| 17:49.18 | wasynyt_eee | what ? |
| 17:49.26 | DammitJim | Nnarcosis130syc, we are talking about eeePCs |
| 17:49.32 | DammitJim | those small netbook computers |
| 17:49.33 | Nnarcosis130syc | whats that? |
| 17:49.38 | Nnarcosis130syc | ahhh |
| 17:49.44 | Nnarcosis130syc | its a type computer? |
| 17:49.44 | DammitJim | wasynyt_eee, is running *nix in one of those |
| 17:49.47 | DammitJim | yeah |
| 17:49.50 | Nnarcosis130syc | interesting |
| 17:50.00 | DammitJim | http://eeepc.asus.com/global/index.html |
| 17:50.03 | Nnarcosis130syc | hey why does everyone say *nix instead of linux |
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| 17:50.16 | wasynyt_eee | and back |
| 17:50.18 | DammitJim | I don't know |
| 17:50.24 | DammitJim | lol... I guess for Unix or Linux |
| 17:50.25 | DammitJim | lol |
| 17:50.38 | wasynyt_eee | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.39 | Nnarcosis130syc | haha that makes sense i guess lol |
| 17:50.42 | wasynyt_eee | *something |
| 17:50.43 | marteo | Unix-based system |
| 17:51.00 | marteo | i.e., an OS that respects POSIX standards |
| 17:51.02 | DammitJim | yeah, I guess there aren't many unix netbooks out there |
| 17:51.12 | marteo | i. e. , anything but Windows |
| 17:51.15 | DammitJim | I guess FreeBSD isn't Linux, right? |
| 17:51.21 | wasynyt_eee | there arent that many unix anything out there |
| 17:51.31 | wasynyt_eee | nope |
| 17:51.36 | wasynyt_eee | not even close |
| 17:51.52 | wasynyt_eee | bsd is a family of its own |
| 17:52.09 | DammitJim | yup |
| 17:52.14 | DammitJim | that's why I don't use it anymore |
| 17:52.17 | DammitJim | that famiily wasn't very warm |
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| 17:53.59 | wasynyt_eee | heh... well i dont know about that |
| 17:55.17 | DammitJim | ugh... I should stop talking |
| 17:55.34 | wasynyt_eee | why so? |
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| 17:55.53 | DammitJim | 'cause i should be working |
| 17:55.54 | DammitJim | LOL |
| 17:56.01 | wasynyt_eee | good reason |
| 17:56.06 | wasynyt_eee | go working then |
| 17:56.12 | wasynyt_eee | good evening PrinceAMD |
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| 18:09.11 | Nnarcosis130syc | gotta head out to class |
| 18:09.18 | Nnarcosis130syc | have a wonderful day everyone |
| 18:09.32 | Nnarcosis130syc | ten un buen dia andy |
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| 18:35.13 | bentejuy | hello all! |
| 18:39.22 | wasynyt | good evening bentejuy |
| 18:39.40 | bentejuy | good evening wasynyt :) |
| 18:42.41 | wasynyt | is fed up with pulseaudio |
| 18:43.55 | wasynyt | how are you doing bentejuy |
| 18:47.02 | bentejuy | pretty good! thanks |
| 18:47.05 | bentejuy | and you? |
| 18:47.43 | wasynyt | now after dokg -r pulseaudio, a lot better |
| 18:47.50 | wasynyt | *dpkg |
| 18:48.32 | bentejuy | lol |
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| 18:50.24 | wasynyt | pulseaudio is a pain |
| 18:53.55 | bentejuy | no wonder, look at how complex it seems :P -> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Pulseaudio-diagram.svg |
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| 18:55.54 | Nnarcosis130syc | hey |
| 18:55.54 | wasynyt | wonders why they made it so comlicated |
| 18:56.07 | Nnarcosis130syc | whats is the apt-get install for openoffice |
| 18:56.14 | Nnarcosis130syc | like what do i type after install |
| 18:56.59 | Nnarcosis130syc | or is there a better word processer? |
| 18:57.08 | wasynyt | type synaptic in terminal as root and serach for it |
| 18:57.12 | ikevin | aot-get install openoffice.org |
| 18:57.14 | wasynyt | is being lazy |
| 18:57.40 | Andy-10 | yo me lo instale por synaptic... y tenia un aspecto algo feito :( |
| 18:57.58 | wasynyt | apt x es en yo me lo instale por synaptic... y tenia un aspecto algo feito :( |
| 18:58.20 | DammitJim | that's terrible |
| 18:58.27 | DammitJim | Andy-10, installed it using synaptic |
| 18:58.31 | wasynyt | cant understand that |
| 18:58.35 | DammitJim | but it looked ugly |
| 18:58.41 | Andy-10 | yes |
| 18:58.48 | DammitJim | that's what he said |
| 19:00.00 | Nnarcosis130syc | bueno, que es una que tiene un aspecto lindo |
| 19:00.18 | Nnarcosis130syc | lo siento, mi espanol esta terrible |
| 19:00.40 | Andy-10 | es mejor hacerlo por el disco bonus o algo asi se llama |
| 19:01.02 | Nnarcosis130syc | disco bonus? |
| 19:01.05 | Nnarcosis130syc | que es este? |
| 19:01.45 | Andy-10 | moment please :) |
| 19:01.51 | Nnarcosis130syc | claro |
| 19:02.19 | Andy-10 | http://www.elivecd.org/Download/Bonus/ |
| 19:02.49 | Andy-10 | OpenOffice con aspecto de gnome se ve feo.. pero con ese disco bonus lo cambia de aspecto |
| 19:03.48 | Nnarcosis130syc | gracias |
| 19:03.55 | Nnarcosis130syc | creo que voy a usarlo |
| 19:04.10 | Andy-10 | 12 dollar :) |
| 19:04.26 | Nnarcosis130syc | estoy usanod synaptic ahora pero si es tan mal como tu dijiste voy a combiar a ese disco bonus |
| 19:04.52 | Andy-10 | ok :) |
| 19:05.02 | Nnarcosis130syc | aww necisto pagar =( |
| 19:05.30 | Nnarcosis130syc | vale, voy a usar el uno de synaptic |
| 19:05.32 | Andy-10 | se dice que tiene aspecto como si fuera hecho como aplicacion para E17 |
| 19:05.49 | Andy-10 | el de Bonus disk |
| 19:05.56 | DammitJim | cual es el problema???? |
| 19:06.14 | Nnarcosis130syc | we are trying to find another word processor |
| 19:06.26 | DammitJim | you don't like oowriter? |
| 19:06.29 | Nnarcosis130syc | he said that the open office from the bouns disks is the has the nicest look |
| 19:06.34 | Nnarcosis130syc | i have abiword |
| 19:06.35 | Nnarcosis130syc | and it sux |
| 19:06.39 | Nnarcosis130syc | k g2g srry m8s |
| 19:06.40 | Nnarcosis130syc | bbl |
| 19:06.45 | DammitJim | yeah, the one from the bonus disk isn't bad |
| 19:06.49 | DammitJim | but you can try apt |
| 19:06.49 | keyra | Nnarcosis130syc: the first thing to do if anything sux, is to report it http://bugs.elivecd.org , or you want that things be fixed magically without know that it fails ?? |
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| 19:08.07 | Elive_user16_ru | ой |
| 19:08.39 | wasynyt | goes |
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| 21:04.06 | Andy-10 | alguién que hables español, para escribir mis dudas.... |
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| 21:38.11 | bentejuy | Andy-10, que dudas? |
| 21:38.32 | Andy-10 | :) |
| 21:38.56 | Andy-10 | hablas bien el español bentejuy ? |
| 21:39.12 | Andy-10 | es que no quisiera malos entendidos, ya me a pasado :( |
| 21:39.38 | bentejuy | depende de a aqui le preguntes ;) |
| 21:40.20 | bentejuy | eso iva por lo de hablar bien español |
| 21:40.33 | Andy-10 | Bueno tengo una duda... Estoy haciendo mi tarea en NetBeans, haciendo aplicaciones en memoria, y en eso me entra la curiosidad, porque unos programas tienen la apariencia del entorno Gnome otros de KDE. Y mi pregunta va: cuando crea un programa lo hace para un determinado gestor de ventanas ? |
| 21:40.56 | bentejuy | lol |
| 21:41.10 | Andy-10 | por ahi me dieron una respuesta... |
| 21:41.31 | bentejuy | no te ofendas, pero que tiene que ver eso con elive? xD |
| 21:42.00 | Andy-10 | pero tengo que aprender algunos conectos... Bueno |
| 21:42.00 | bentejuy | bueno, te intentare responder de todas formas :) |
| 21:42.14 | bentejuy | ok |
| 21:42.27 | Andy-10 | era que si estoy haciendo un program... |
| 21:43.03 | Andy-10 | como hago para que tenga la misma apariencia de los que estan hechos para el E17 |
| 21:43.10 | Andy-10 | o sea como es proceso |
| 21:43.42 | bentejuy | usa etk o ewl |
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| 21:46.18 | Elive_user41 | guys im new on elive how can install pakets |
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| 21:57.11 | bentejuy | good night people! |
| 22:23.49 | PrinceAMD | hi keyra |
| 22:45.30 | wasynyt | good evening people |
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| 23:22.19 | Nnarcosis130syc | hello everyone |
| 23:23.31 | Nnarcosis130syc | hey someone earlier mentioned a good word processor, aside from openoffice and abiword, what else is there? |
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