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04:22.35Elive_user13_enis there anywhere to get my root password
04:22.50Elive_user13_eni entered it but its not what the log in password is
04:23.32she_dyedlive CD?
04:23.39she_dyedtry elive
04:24.05Elive_user13_eni tried the cd and it just boots to the os right away...even with boot cd as first boot priority
04:24.30she_dyedmaybe a bad burn did you chksum it
04:24.51Elive_user13_enno
04:25.01Elive_user13_eni will try it
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04:45.53Elive_user24hola
04:46.08keyraElive_user24: que tal ?
04:46.31Elive_user24muy bien gracias...probando
04:47.47Elive_user24hoooolaaaa
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06:54.28kevin_taffhello
06:55.01she_dyedhello kevin_taff
07:06.41she_dyedwhich e are you using
07:06.48she_dyedi have elive+compiz
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08:56.48she_dyedomg it was worth the wait
08:59.17she_dyeddoes amsn only connect to msn
08:59.24she_dyedor is it like pidgin
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10:03.40Elive_user98_esdiuuuuuuuus
10:03.44Elive_user98_escomo mola el elive
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14:09.39marteohello people
14:12.30she_dyedhey marteo! how are you
14:13.15she_dyeddid you know this POS distro suse has e17 that keeps putting desktop iconz!!
14:13.50she_dyedget it and burn it, it's SOAD (SUSE on active diet) with e as desktop
14:14.13marteohm, don't like suse
14:14.34she_dyedi know but if you just want to find out how it puts the icons on desktop its a live CD anyway
14:14.39she_dyedno need to install
14:14.50she_dyedheh heh there's an idea
14:14.59she_dyed(I hate it too)
14:15.03marteoyou know, she_dyed
14:15.24marteoI have already had icons on my e17 desktop
14:15.34she_dyedlost them on upgrade?
14:15.43marteoit was default in the package i dl
14:16.03marteoand lost them when i installed elive instad of debian+e17
14:16.17keyramarteo: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
14:16.31marteooh, keyra, shut the fuck up !
14:16.36she_dyed<PROTECTED>
14:16.45keyramarteo: put your bad words in your ass!
14:16.50she_dyedomg
14:16.58marteoi love this other sentence
14:17.28marteoPrinceAMD ?
14:18.32marteoyou know, keyra is annoying but I love her (it ?)
14:18.46keyramarteo: really ? 8)
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14:26.20marteo7959sorry, I'm on a windows computer here...
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14:31.29she_dyedno reaction from keyra?
14:34.24marteo7959hm, no
14:35.02marteo7959I have to go (and work...) ++
14:40.22Elive_user71Hi all, can someone direct me to a document instructing how to get a WebCam working with Elive. The EbCam in questions is NX 6000. Thanks in advance.
14:48.54elmo40Elive_user71: all depends
14:49.06elmo40when you plug it in, does anything popup?
14:49.18elmo40and if you open a terminal, type: lsusb
14:49.32elmo40does it show the webcam?
14:50.35Elive_user71Hi; it does not show in away I can recognize, however; arecord -l shows it in card 1
14:51.53Elive_user71I just unpluged it and pluged it back in, but all that happend is the camera LED blinked
14:55.05she_dyedis the light steady and green
14:56.06Elive_user71the light just blinked, and it is off now. I also found the LifeCam in lsusb.
15:01.00she_dyedtry it without unplugging, boot with it connected -- we want the light steady
15:03.03Elive_user71Let me add that I'm running Elive off the CD. Don't know if this changes things.
15:04.34she_dyedbefore you go, see whats on the menu for cams, i think gtkam? or amsn see where you can try it later
15:04.51she_dyedamsn i think supports cams as long as they're deteced
15:04.56she_dyeddetected*
15:05.06she_dyeddo you have an msn account?
15:07.25she_dyedwhen the light is on try the youtube website to 'capture' yourself, so those are things you can try when you get back
15:07.43Elive_user71I do have an msn account.
15:07.54she_dyedlog in for now to see where to set the cam
15:08.09she_dyedusing amsn
15:08.21Elive_user71k
15:08.45she_dyedlater if it will *not detect try youtube
15:09.02she_dyeddo that when the green light is steady
15:10.03Elive_user71k
15:10.56she_dyedsome apps have on the menu 'Detect my device'
15:11.12she_dyedor 'find my cam'
15:14.05Elive_user71It's trying to log in, but no luck so far.
15:14.18Elive_user71I do have the right credentials.
15:14.40she_dyeddont force it, might work in a bit
15:14.50she_dyeddo you see the webcam on the menu
15:14.57she_dyedjust the menu stuff for now
15:14.59Elive_user71Yeah, I'm just letting it ride
15:15.01she_dyedso you know your way around
15:16.12Elive_user71Yeah, just enough to get lost. LOL
15:16.38Elive_user71I have the following menu: Accoutn, View, Actions, Contacts, and Help
15:17.20she_dyedView as in VIew my cam or what is it there
15:17.25she_dyedbut also try gtkam
15:18.46Elive_user71Only the "Actions" menu has two entries with "webcam" in them, the first is "Send webcam" the 2nd "Ask to receive webcam" the "View" menu has no entries for webcam
15:18.53she_dyedand mplayer
15:19.00she_dyedok thats good enough, ready to reboot
15:19.03she_dyed?
15:19.36Elive_user71Yes, I'm on the computer in question, so this chat will terminate. I reconnect upon reboot.
15:20.06she_dyedyou should also try other live CDs there was one that focused on webcam (was it nimblex)
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15:29.23Elive_user52she_dyed; I'm back
15:30.00she_dyedis it you man
15:30.08Elive_user52It is I
15:30.40Elive_user52While rebooting the web cam did not show any lights
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15:31.34elmo40and aMSN?
15:31.45Elive_user52I'm wondering if my kernel lacks the support for USB Device Class Definition
15:31.49elmo40what i do suggest, apt-get install camorama
15:31.56elmo40i doubt it
15:32.01she_dyedand cheese
15:32.04elmo40it supports two brands that i have
15:32.45elmo40has anyone read this BS yet?
15:32.46elmo40http://tinyurl.com/csx47o
15:32.57elmo40"I have no idea why a software company would buy a hardware company. We don't want to buy any hardware companies," Ballmer said
15:33.12elmo40they bought Intel, didnt they???
15:33.20Elive_user52Did So there is no need to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.22?
15:33.36elmo40.22 ?
15:33.39elmo40what is it now?
15:33.54she_dyeduname -r
15:33.58Elive_user522.6.18
15:34.01elmo40oh
15:34.04elmo40hrmm. GEM?
15:34.10Elive_user52yes
15:34.21Elive_user522.8.18-elive
15:34.34Elive_user52sorry 2.6.18-elive
15:35.11elmo40i see.
15:35.31elmo40well, if you have time & bandwidth, i do recommend you download the latest dev.
15:35.45Elive_user52I read on http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ that kernel 2.6.22 included the Linux UVC driver natively.
15:35.47elmo40GEM's repository is not up to date.
15:37.28Elive_user52looks like I need to get the kernel-source or kernel-headers as well as "make" and "gcc". Can I "apt-get install" them?
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15:38.59she_dyedthat might be long and painful
15:39.09she_dyedfor a live CD ?
15:39.27Elive_user52What do you recommend?
15:39.28she_dyedget the latest dev version, the changes could be there as well
15:40.08Elive_user52OK I'll go that rout. Any recommended reading on howto install on a flash drive?
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15:41.10she_dyedas in a thumb drive distro?
15:41.18Elive_user52Yes
15:41.45she_dyeddoes Elive have one, i know slack has RUNT and theres Nimblex geared for cams
15:42.05she_dyedtry each one if you want, do you dual boot to win?
15:42.08she_dyedwindows?
15:42.09Elive_user52I'm interested in a howto I can follow to install the Elive dev version on a thumb drive.
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15:43.06she_dyedoh thats right, if you had space like a 4G stick
15:43.20she_dyedcan your hardware boot to USB in its BIOS?
15:43.26Elive_user52OK, thatk you for the GREAT help. I will work on testing all the options given me thus far. I'll report back with results.
15:43.37she_dyedkewl
15:43.43Elive_user52My stick is 32GB, and my HD does boot from USB
15:43.52she_dyedexcellent
15:44.22she_dyedhave a lot to play-test with
15:44.25she_dyed:-)
15:44.38she_dyedyou want to use the distro that keeps that light on
15:44.47Elive_user52OK
15:44.56she_dyedis a good bet then look at its driver its settings and etc
15:45.22she_dyedif not amsn then skype or camorama and also cheese
15:45.35she_dyedsometimes it'll work on two of the four apps but theres lots more
15:45.39she_dyedeven mplayer
15:45.48she_dyedhave fun
15:47.23Elive_user52Here I go........
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16:08.32Elive_user92hola
16:08.44wasynytgood evening people
16:08.47keyraElive_user92: que tal ?
16:09.24Elive_user92como va el dia?
16:09.51Elive_user92o la noche por lo que leo
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16:59.57she_dyednot into trance maybe
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18:00.17elmo40watchwolf:
18:00.27elmo40you have been quiet for a while.
18:00.43watchwolfelmo40, :)
18:00.48elmo40bonjour :)
18:00.54elmo40comment ca va?
18:01.44watchwolfsalut, ca va et toi ?
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18:09.48elmo40bien
18:09.58elmo40still in ubuntu-fr, eh?
18:10.12elmo40and how busy is e.fr?
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18:11.24FenDanTHey all :)
18:11.32elmo40FenDanT:
18:11.55FenDanTStrange problem since today's update
18:12.09FenDanTNo more dock :(
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18:12.43FenDanTIs there a way to reactivate it ?
18:12.47watchwolfelmo40, ubuntu-fr ? I m jsut connected since 1 year, but never talk >.<
18:12.53watchwolfFenDanT, what dock ? the default dock ?
18:13.04FenDanTwatchwolf, yep
18:13.09Elive_user2hi
18:13.18FenDanTHi Elive_user2
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18:13.30watchwolfleft click - desktop - shelves - add ?
18:13.42Elive_user2i am new here
18:16.54FenDanTwatchwolf, i mean the dock to lanch the apps
18:17.38watchwolfFenDanT, Ibar , it is a module, you can add it in the shelf
18:18.19FenDanTDont have it :(
18:19.19watchwolfstrange, you have to see this pb avec Thanartesis
18:19.25watchwolfI m not an elive expert, sry
18:19.55phoenix__|hello FenDanT ;)
18:23.00FenDanTHe4y phoenix__| :)
18:23.04elmo40FenDanT: dock to launch apps?
18:24.14FenDanTYep
18:24.14phoenix__|FenDanT: tu utilise la dernière Elive ?
18:24.14FenDanTThe one in the bottom of the screen
18:24.14FenDanTphoenix__|, je crois
18:24.21phoenix__|est-ce qu'elle utilise exalt pour gérer les réseaux ?
18:24.37watchwolfla personne qui a fait la news sur Linuxfr est ici ?
18:25.28FenDanTphoenix__|, tu n'aurais pas une idée je n'ai plus le dock de lancement des applis :(
18:25.29elmo40FenDanT: oh, that thing. I removed mine :P
18:25.35elmo40i always use Alt+Esc
18:25.48phoenix__|FenDanT: itask-ng ?
18:25.54elmo40ya, that one
18:25.56FenDanTphoenix__|, ?
18:26.10phoenix__|vérifie si le module itask-ng est bien chargé
18:26.16FenDanTphoenix__|, le dock en bas avec la liste des applis
18:26.24phoenix__|oui :)
18:26.25FenDanTphoenix__|, comment je fais ?
18:26.35elmo40apt-get install emodule-itask-ng
18:26.47phoenix__|tu vas dans configuration -> modules, et tu regarde
18:27.44FenDanTphoenix__|, il n'y est pas
18:28.09phoenix__|arf
18:28.28phoenix__|et si tu fais la commande d' elmo40 ?
18:28.42FenDanTil me dit qu'il y a une erreur que le .so n'est pas trouvé
18:29.48phoenix__|hum
18:29.55FenDanTapt get me dit que c'est installé
18:29.59phoenix__|signale-le à Thanatermesis
18:30.17phoenix__|un problème de compilation ou d'installation peut-être
18:31.00phoenix__|watchwolf: j'ai récupéré le init.d sur les dépôts d'Elive, merci pour l'idée
18:32.22FenDanTBah la maj a tout planté
18:33.13phoenix__|FenDanT: je n'utilise pas itask-ng, mais vérifie (par exemple dans Synaptic) que le paquet mis à jour met bien les fichiers où il faut
18:35.48FenDanTCa met des erreurs de module
18:36.11phoenix__|juste avec itask-ng ou avec tous les modules ?
18:36.32FenDanTToute une série...
18:38.34elmo40FenDanT: remove, then reinstall.
18:38.36elmo40are you using GEM?
18:38.55FenDanTyep
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18:39.18elmo40hrmm, that may be the problem. It is 'old' and the APT repository is not being updated.
18:40.33FenDanTIs there a way to upgrade ?
18:42.17wasynytreinstall
18:42.22FenDanTErf
18:42.44FenDanTWhere's the new version ?
18:42.48wasynytor you might be able to force it to be debian and then by changing the repos make it elive again
18:43.02keyrawasynyt: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
18:43.14wasynytkeyra: so?
18:43.42wasynythttp://elive.oceighty.com/development/
18:47.08FenDanTStrange that there's no update
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18:53.14Elive_user76_itsalve
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18:57.00Elive_user76_itsalve
19:00.00wasynytgood evening Elive_user76_it
19:00.09wasynytapt x ie en salve
19:00.16wasynytapt x it en salve
19:00.35wasynyt:S
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19:01.32AlexAnteMachinahey ho
19:01.42wasynytgood evening AlexAnteMachina
19:03.06AlexAnteMachinahi wasynyt
19:03.30AlexAnteMachinaI just saw that there is a new dev-version available!
19:04.00AlexAnteMachina1.9.26. Uploaded 24th of April
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19:09.01wasynyti noticed that as well
19:09.30Elive_user86hiya
19:09.41Arv3nfinally found a cd.. albeit from some "bad" site.
19:10.03Arv3ni ordered a cd too, so im gud2go.
19:10.09Arv3ni also ordered the new parsix cd. :D
19:15.30elmo40Arv3n: and?
19:16.15Arv3nwhatcha mean and?
19:16.42Arv3ni was just letting you guys know, because some peolpe were helping me. they said to email than
19:16.47Arv3ni never got a response.
19:17.29elmo40Arv3n: and you can not dl the latest dev release?
19:19.30Arv3nno, i actually just got done filing a bug report for it.
19:19.40elmo40i see
19:19.44keyraArv3n: http://bugs.elivecd.org
19:19.54Arv3nit fails to boot from the cdrom "Failed to detect base install"
19:20.10elmo40weird
19:20.13Arv3ndebian does the same thing, and so i asked on the debian irc and a guy said it was because my cdrom drive wasn't supported.
19:20.25elmo40even more weird
19:20.29Arv3nyes.
19:20.31Arv3ni know.
19:20.38elmo40heads to work... enjoy!
19:25.11AlexAnteMachinaburns latest dev-version....
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19:28.31Arv3nme no like the dev version anyway
19:28.33Arv3nstable/old = gr8
19:28.44Arv3nkind of like.. xandros..
19:29.03AlexAnteMachinahuh?
19:29.42AlexAnteMachinaI dont understand.
19:29.52Arv3ndev version is unstable
19:29.55Arv3nunstable = bad
19:30.00AlexAnteMachinaxandros is very different to elive
19:30.07Arv3nbut its very stable, like elive gem. :)
19:30.16wasynytthinks that Arv3n would like debian stable
19:30.22Arv3nlenny?
19:30.27Arv3nsorry, it wont run on my computer.
19:30.40AlexAnteMachinaxandros is stable?
19:30.42AlexAnteMachinaokay.
19:30.42Arv3nand etch has network issues. :X not sure why elives kernel works fine. xD
19:30.46Arv3nyes it is.
19:30.49Arv3nits based on sarge.
19:31.03AlexAnteMachinaI've used xandros once on my former eeepc 701.... and it sucked!
19:31.16Arv3nthey probably nerfed it.
19:31.33Arv3nthats not even xandros, rly.
19:31.39Arv3nthat was just made by xandros. :)
19:31.53wasynytwell..
19:32.01AlexAnteMachinathe "nerfed" it???
19:32.04wasynytand it is awful
19:32.07AlexAnteMachinawhat's "nerfed"?
19:32.17Arv3nits a crappier version of the real xandros.
19:32.22Arv3ndumbed down for eee users.
19:32.30Arv3nwhich is aimed at the typical windows user.
19:32.39AlexAnteMachinapoor.
19:33.20Arv3ngotta reboot for the new alsa drivers.
19:33.21Arv3no_o
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