IRC log for #elive on 20090511

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00:12.53Elive_user10is away: Im away
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00:14.38Elive_user10keyra
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00:20.36Elive_user10help
00:21.29Elive_user10hola
00:21.43keyraElive_user10: que tal ?
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00:34.32Elive_user10hola
00:34.46keyraElive_user10: que tal ?
00:34.52Elive_user10hola pirujas
00:35.19Elive_user10ho0la
00:35.19Elive_user10hola
00:35.24Elive_user28_enElive_user10,  keyra  is a bot
00:35.39keyraElive_user28_en: you think so ?
00:35.41Elive_user10no hablo ingles
00:35.48Elive_user28_enporque
00:37.58Dillizarsee ya i go to sleep
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02:32.32n0madhi, openvt -c 3 su anu -c "cmd" returns : illegal vt number - on elive gem same konfigs was and it worked all
02:32.44n0madhow comes ?
02:38.28n0madany ideas ?
02:38.45n0madim stuck..
02:40.17raikazejinnot sure
02:40.28raikazejinwhat is openvt lol
02:42.08raikazejini see
02:42.39raikazejinmaybe there is no vt available
02:43.02raikazejindid    you try others?
02:43.04raikazejin4
02:43.04raikazejin5
02:43.05raikazejin6
02:43.07raikazejinetc
02:43.30raikazejinUse the given VT number and not the first available. Note you must have write access to the supplied VT for this to work.
02:43.40raikazejinn0mad, are you sure of write access??
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03:05.56n0madraikazejin, how can i check those permisions ?
03:06.23n0madwhere* ?
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03:32.00raikazejinno clue
03:32.14raikazejinthat was fromt he openvt man page n0mad
03:33.38n0mad;]
03:40.51elmo40moo
04:00.26n0madelmo40, good morning..uhr i cant set things to work corectly.. i need that crontab start some program on other tty but as specified user....hrr
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04:01.46elmo40n0mad: huh?
04:01.53elmo40that was a lot of br0ken engrish :P
04:06.10n0madelmo40, hi, openvt wont start things on specified vts...
04:09.17elmo40sorry. new to openvt myself.
04:09.26elmo40still trying to figure out why i would even use it...
04:10.14n0madwell
04:10.52n0madthen suggest me, how can i run somethng on other tty's from crontab
04:11.52elmo40you are in X?
04:12.07n0madwell as example on tty3... so i can as i need to ctrl+alt+f3 to check that program, yes im on x
04:13.15n0mad(but say on tty3 i wannt to run some proces that thoesent need x ofc)
04:14.41elmo4019 nicks and no one else joins the convo? :/
04:14.54elmo40n0mad: will it be the same app all the time?
04:15.23elmo40when i load X i have 2 screen sessions start irssi and finch.
04:15.45elmo40need to make a script to not load them more then once, if X crashes and i restart X :P had that occur a few times.
04:15.56elmo40finch didnt like it that much, but irssi handles many instances
04:16.24n0madi need only one and it must not interact with my running user or x
04:17.41n0madyes its same app ;]
04:23.28elmo40must not interact. that means it will 'popup' on a different tty that the user can not see?
04:24.57n0maddam elive x is on f7 my app i must see on f3 or other specified
04:26.21elmo40:/
04:26.25elmo40let me search stuff.
04:26.38elmo40i think i know what you want to accomplish... possibly :P
04:26.54elmo40you dont mean virtual desktops, you want tty sessions?
04:30.37n0madmm yes
04:30.42n0madtty sesions :)
04:33.11n0madearlier, on gem openvt worked fine, now same tryes arent working (openvt opens on free tty, on with i disabled that, erm can u remind me where is cfg file about ttys ? ..forgot uch)
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04:51.17n0maderm :S
04:52.03elmo40n0mad: did coreutils upgrade? is that why it does not work now?
04:52.14elmo40which version are you using?  tty --version
04:53.24elmo40mine is 6.10
04:55.10n0maderm what version was 2years ago ?
04:55.16n0madand worked fine...
04:55.32n0madversion...i doubt is that so important..
04:56.12n0mad...tty (GNU coreutils) 6.10
04:56.22n0mad:S
04:56.57n0mad:)
04:57.16n0madi have no ideas ;]
04:57.28n0madwant candy ?
04:57.32n0mad..heh
04:57.44n0madmaybe tea ?
04:58.00n0mad..but it is cold ...
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10:41.25Dillizarany one here
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11:09.57Dillizarhey yo
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12:50.58Dillizarcan any body tell me the command to install new modules
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13:02.24Dillizaraloo
13:08.25raikazejinDillizar, i can
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13:08.39Dillizarpls do
13:08.51raikazejinuse the module assistant
13:08.52Dillizarlol
13:08.52raikazejinm-a
13:08.52Dillizarhow
13:08.52raikazejinman m-a
13:09.01AlexAnteMachinahi
13:09.05AlexAnteMachinahi Wizard
13:09.44Dillizarraikazejin, dont know what is m-a
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13:13.49raikazejinmodule-assistant
13:14.00Dillizarwhere is it
13:14.05Elive_user85_plhi
13:14.15raikazejinDillizar, what
13:14.28Elive_user85_pli've got 1 question
13:14.29Dillizarthe module assistant
13:14.43raikazejinare you using synaptic
13:14.51Elive_user85_plhow to execute compiz in elive ?
13:14.54Dillizarno doesnt work
13:15.07DillizarElive_user85_pl, do you have elive compiz
13:15.09raikazejinapt-search?
13:15.16Elive_user85_plyes
13:15.19Elive_user85_pli think so
13:15.41Elive_user85_plin the end of version is xx.26
13:16.24Dillizarraikazejin, i havbe installed the m-a
13:17.36Dillizarbut i cant find it
13:18.04Elive_user85_pli have this one 1.9.26
13:18.19Dillizaryes it is a compiz version
13:18.31Dillizarcompiz --replace will work i think
13:18.33Dillizar:)
13:18.40Dillizarrun it
13:18.55Elive_user85_plcommand not found
13:19.09Dillizarin ESU
13:19.22Elive_user85_plwhat is ESU ?
13:19.22Dillizarright click administrator
13:19.26Elive_user85_plin terminal
13:19.35Dillizarnope
13:19.40keyraElive_user85_pl: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
13:19.58DillizarElive_user85_pl, right click on the desktop
13:20.03Dillizarthen go to administrator
13:20.09Elive_user85_plok right click administrator
13:20.10Dillizarand then ESU :)
13:20.33Elive_user85_plsome error i have
13:20.49Dillizarlike
13:21.20Elive_user85_plwait i see log because i have polish version
13:21.33Elive_user85_pland i don't speak english verry well
13:22.36Dillizardavaj
13:22.44Elive_user85_pl:)
13:22.58Elive_user85_plESU niespodziewanie zakonczyl dzialanie
13:23.08Dillizarhmm
13:23.09Dillizarwell
13:23.32Dillizaryou dont have compiz i think
13:23.37Dillizarif my polish is good
13:23.52Dillizaras root apt-get install compiz
13:23.58Dillizaror zakon
13:24.04Dillizarmay be the pass
13:24.10Dillizarcuz zakon means law in my language
13:24.41Elive_user85_pli must add repository
13:24.51Elive_user85_plok i try
13:24.51Dillizarwhy
13:25.44Elive_user85_plbecause i don't have compiz in my repo
13:26.01Elive_user85_plnie udalo sie odnalezc pakietu compiz
13:26.09Dillizarfuck
13:26.17Dillizarpakietu
13:26.19Dillizarlol
13:26.30Dillizarok
13:26.33Dillizartry first
13:26.38Dillizarapt-get update
13:26.40Dillizarthen try this
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13:26.54Dillizardamn more polish
13:27.15Elive_user19_pl:)
13:27.29Dillizardbri vjecur
13:27.33Dillizardobri*
13:27.48Elive_user19_pldobry wieczur
13:28.05Dillizarthe same
13:28.12Elive_user19_pljes
13:28.15Dillizarjes
13:28.16Dillizarlol
13:28.27Dillizarand how do you spell thank you
13:28.37Dillizarjeshnimash
13:28.38Elive_user19_plspoko
13:28.43Elive_user19_plit means ok
13:28.57Dillizarno no jeshimash or smt liek that
13:29.15Elive_user19_plze mna jak z dzieckiem mowisz i masz :)
13:29.26Elive_user19_pldobrze dobrze :)
13:30.05Dillizarlol
13:30.09Dillizaryou have funny language
13:30.20Dillizareven for me its hard to say some words in polish
13:30.27Dillizarand i am slavic too
13:30.36Elive_user19_plwhere do U come from ?
13:30.40DillizarMacedonia
13:30.57Elive_user19_plu've got preety girls :)
13:31.04Dillizari know
13:31.05Dillizar:P
13:31.10Dillizargo to Bitola
13:31.14Dillizarand you will se the best
13:31.21Dillizarbut i have a girlfriend already :(
13:31.23Dillizar:D
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13:32.11Elive_user19_plif u have a chicken i doesn't mean u can't look at another meet
13:32.20Dillizarlol
13:32.20Elive_user19_plor somethink like that
13:32.24Dillizarlook but not touch
13:33.01Elive_user19_plbut if u don't get satisfaction for this u can :)
13:33.15Elive_user19_plwhatever wher is the repo for compiz
13:33.31Dillizarak
13:33.49Dillizarhttp://www.elivecd.org/Download/e17-compiz
13:34.44DillizarElive_user19_pl, does it works
13:35.42Elive_user19_plno i think that i download this version from this site
13:35.54Elive_user19_pland burn and try
13:36.05Elive_user19_plby the way my name is Lukasz
13:36.08Dillizarwait ypu are the same Elive_user86_pl
13:36.13Elive_user19_plluke
13:36.18Elive_user19_plyes
13:36.23Dillizarok
13:37.17Dillizardid you try apt-get update
13:37.18Elive_user19_plnow i don't know which one to choose
13:37.28Elive_user19_pli forget :)
13:38.33Elive_user19_plnow somethink working :)
13:39.12Dillizarok
13:39.41Elive_user19_plworking :)
13:40.05Elive_user19_pldo u remember maybe command for cheeck glx
13:40.20Elive_user19_plgreep ...
13:40.36Elive_user19_plfglrx info something like that
13:40.44Dillizartry
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14:16.40Elive_user41_itallright... bye
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16:42.20Elive_user73_plhi
16:42.33Elive_user73_pli've got question
16:42.51Elive_user73_plhow stop x server in elive ?
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16:47.21Elive_user92Hola a todos
16:47.42Elive_user92soy mexicano alguien que hable español
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16:54.42elmo40Elive_user73_pl: stop X ?
16:54.53elmo40you cant.. it restarts automatically.
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16:55.13elmo40but CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will kill X
16:55.17Elive_user90_plyes stop x
16:55.20Elive_user90_plin elive
16:55.42Elive_user90_plit restart x
16:55.46Elive_user90_pli must turn off x
16:56.18elmo40edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it boot to console (single)
16:56.34elmo40you upgrading nVidia driver?
16:56.41Elive_user90_plyes
16:56.51Elive_user90_pli've got problem with compiz
16:58.20Elive_user90_pland i can't change resolution
16:58.43Elive_user90_plmy screen is 640x480
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17:36.28Elive_user73_plhelp me please
17:36.41Elive_user73_pli must upgrade drivers nvidia
17:36.45Elive_user73_plhow to stop x
17:38.10Elive_user73_plis anybody here
17:40.42wasynytas root, /etc/rc.d entrace stop
17:40.49wasynytbah
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17:54.01Elive_user73_plhi
17:54.05Elive_user73_plonce again
17:54.16Elive_user73_pli need help
17:54.25Elive_user73_pli must install nvidia driver
17:54.33Elive_user73_pland i must stop x server
17:54.40Elive_user73_plhow i can do that
17:55.02Elive_user73_plin debian it was /etc/init.d/*dm stop
17:55.08Elive_user73_pl????????????????
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18:17.42elmo40Elive_user73_pl: you installed Elive?
18:18.46elmo40edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add a line to boot 'single'
18:18.53elmo40that will boot to console. no X
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18:32.51Elive_user73_plco mam dac do menu.lst
18:32.53Elive_user73_pl??
18:33.05Elive_user73_pllinie i napisac single ?
18:35.07DronAn[BY]pri zagruzke (grub) tisni E na menu
18:35.28DronAn[BY]Na stroke
18:35.46DronAn[BY]i pishi
18:37.46Elive_user73_plpishi co ?
18:38.12Elive_user73_plpishi "single" in the end of document ?
18:38.50Elive_user73_pli have elive and xp in menu.lst
18:39.03Elive_user73_plwhere and what i must wricte
18:39.10DronAn[BY]a co est ne tak?
18:39.21elmo40make a new entry
18:39.39Elive_user73_plnew entry "single" that all ?
18:39.51Elive_user73_plcompiz don't work
18:40.05DronAn[BY]zabud
18:40.08Elive_user73_pli think is a driver problem
18:40.42DronAn[BY]U tebe compiz version?
18:40.51Elive_user73_plbut i can't install driver when x is started
18:41.07Elive_user73_pli have version xxx.26
18:41.15elmo40xxx? 180?
18:41.16Elive_user73_plbut there weren't compiz
18:41.28Elive_user73_plno i mean elive
18:41.32elmo40compiz will still work with old driver
18:41.33DronAn[BY]No compiz in this version
18:41.40DronAn[BY]that's right
18:41.48Elive_user73_pli install from repo
18:41.51DronAn[BY]Don't install a compiz
18:41.55elmo40Elive_user73_pl: driver is not the problem.
18:42.03Elive_user73_plok
18:42.04elmo40ecomorph is the problem
18:42.16Elive_user73_plwhat is ecomorph ?
18:42.21elmo40it is broken.
18:42.38Elive_user73_plhmm i don't know
18:42.50elmo40E (e17) co (compiz) morph (together) ;)
18:43.12elmo40did you apt-get upgrade???
18:43.17Elive_user73_plno
18:43.20DronAn[BY]Elive_user73_pl, Ctrl+Alt+F3 pracue? Kedi zagruzilsa?
18:43.28Elive_user73_plschould I upgrade?
18:43.42elmo40Do NOT UPGRADE packages, you will broke your compiz (from the Topic of #elive-compiz2
18:43.45elmo40Do NOT UPGRADE packages, you will broke your compiz (from the Topic of #elive-compiz
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18:44.08elmo40download latest version. but not very stable
18:44.10Elive_user73_pli was install compiz ;/
18:44.12Elive_user73_plfrom repo
18:44.25DronAn[BY]Remove it
18:44.30Elive_user73_plbecause the command compiz --replace was not found
18:44.41elmo40kernel   /vmlinuz-2.6.26.8-elive-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro single
18:44.50DronAn[BY]Better way to reinstall distro
18:44.53elmo40a line like this will make you boot to console
18:45.08Elive_user73_plwait
18:45.39DronAn[BY]elmo40, It's no way for him to use ctrl+alt+F.. ?
18:45.43Elive_user73_plwhat version of elive with compiz will be ok for my nvidia geforce 2 mx/mx 400
18:46.14DronAn[BY]Elive_user73_pl, Spetial Version of Compiz
18:46.28Elive_user73_pli'm downloading 1.9.25
18:46.56DronAn[BY]http://www.elivecd.org/Download/e17-compiz
18:47.42DronAn[BY]I did 22
18:47.45Elive_user73_plfrom this side  :)
18:47.59DronAn[BY]And it was perfect
18:48.14Elive_user73_plwhat is difrent
18:48.30DronAn[BY]Elive_user73_pl, Is it working for you from CD?
18:48.41Elive_user73_plno
18:48.56Elive_user73_pli mean elive working but compiz no
18:49.08Elive_user73_pland from res 640x480
18:49.14DronAn[BY]hm
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18:49.41DronAn[BY]Try 1.9.22
18:50.06Elive_user73_pli try, thanks for help
18:50.17DronAn[BY]not at all )
18:50.46DronAn[BY]Just install Elive without compiz and enjoy it :)
18:51.15DronAn[BY]Compiz is very buggy itself
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18:58.18elmo40geforce mx 400? WEAK!
18:58.22elmo40laptop?
18:59.51elmo40.22? that is too old
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19:01.36DronAn[BY]I've try it on Toshiba laptop with full ATI
19:01.42DronAn[BY]and it works
19:01.55DronAn[BY]video 9600
19:02.02DronAn[BY]radeon
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19:03.48Elive_user92hola a todos
19:03.55Elive_user92soy usuario nuevo con elive
19:04.03keyraElive_user92: que tal ?
19:04.13Elive_user92k tal keyra
19:04.22raikazejinElive_user92, es un bot
19:04.41raikazejinpero
19:04.47DronAn[BY]Hei hei hei ) spanish?
19:04.51raikazejinyo no hablar en espanol
19:05.03Elive_user92una pregunta acabo de instalar un programa pero no lo veo por ninguna parte y desde la consola tampoco lo puedo correr
19:05.08raikazejinpequeno
19:06.55Elive_user92hola
19:07.07Elive_user92instale el crossover, pero no lo encuentro por ningun lado
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19:09.38NyhaHi
19:12.08Elive_user92alguien me puede ayudar
19:12.18NyhaHi all
19:12.35DronAn[BY]Nyha, Hi
19:12.58DronAn[BY]Nyha, How it's going on?
19:13.22NyhaI was wondering, what do I have to do to see international chars in the system?
19:13.38NyhaIts all fine here DronAn[BY]
19:20.52DronAn[BY])
19:21.46DronAn[BY]What do you mean?  international chars
19:22.10DronAn[BY]layouts?
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19:23.42DronAn[BY]Or fonts problem?
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19:38.07NyhaDronAn[BY], I cant see any folders with ÅÄÖ in there names...
19:38.21DronAn[BY]Оо
19:38.48DronAn[BY]what lang. they named?
19:39.24NyhaSwedish
19:39.24DronAn[BY]I mean what native lang
19:39.39DronAn[BY]O see forgoten
19:39.53Nyhabut I installed the "american english"...
19:40.04DronAn[BY]E
19:40.34DronAn[BY]but you can't see only names of mounted folders?
19:40.50DronAn[BY]or elive too?
19:41.39NyhaI cant see any folders with åäö in ther name... all other folders are fine... Just the ones with the non-ascii chars in them... :P
19:42.05DronAn[BY]clear
19:43.32DronAn[BY]need ask Thanatermesis
19:43.34DronAn[BY]or google )
19:43.56NyhaI'll have a try on locales andd UTF-8
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19:44.53DronAn[BY]uhu
19:45.42NyhaWho is Thanatermesis?
19:46.24DronAn[BY]Developer of Elive :)
19:47.42NyhaAh :)
19:49.40NyhaI'll do a utf-8 migration...
19:49.48Nyhafor starter :P
19:50.58DronAn[BY])
19:52.20Nyhait did not help... :P
19:53.03DronAn[BY]read google about E17
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19:54.19NyhaWell its in the termianl and the filebrowser...
19:54.42DronAn[BY]in terminal to (
19:54.56keyraDronAn[BY]: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
19:56.11DronAn[BY]Where?
19:56.11NyhaNot even in firefox...
19:56.26Nyhabrowsing with "file:///"
19:56.36Nyhabut in windows its there...
19:58.53DronAn[BY]Was it same from Live CD?
19:59.50NyhaI did not check..
20:02.08DronAn[BY]It must be same problem for any distros. Ask google.
20:02.28NyhaI just asked in #debian...
20:02.47NyhaI never had problems with gentoo ^^
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20:04.47DronAn[BY]E
20:05.06DronAn[BY]cause you compillig everything
20:05.14DronAn[BY]in gentoo
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20:06.18NyhaYep..
20:11.08DronAn[BY]dpkg-reconfigure locales
20:12.48DronAn[BY]dpkg-reconfigure console-cyrillic
20:12.49DronAn[BY])
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20:15.16Elive_user17_enchat irc
20:15.37Elive_user17_enoi
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20:22.24Nyha?
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21:33.27Skallinahey ho
21:33.36SkallinaWizard, hi
21:33.45Skallinap1asma, hi
21:34.05Skallinaanybody knows a tool for ripping mp3 from YouTube videos?
21:34.12p1asmahey Skallina
21:34.15p1asmahmm
21:34.19Skallinaservus p1asma
21:34.28p1asmayou could use some videodownloader and extract the audiostream then
21:34.50p1asmaor just record it with jack or something
21:35.25Skallinathere is a nice tool "YouTube to mp3" but it's for win only
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21:36.15Skallinaguess i'll bother thana with that
21:36.29Skallinabtw: did he upgrade keyra ?
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22:30.11Dillizarpls any body help me before i smash the monitor
22:31.08Dillizari have turn on a screen shot and its not the one from settings panel and i cant watch a movie i must move my mouse pls help
22:33.12Dillizarany one
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22:54.36DillizarSpami|Thug, lol
22:54.39Dillizarare ya here man
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