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| 00:09.15 | Elive_user10_es | hola, alguien me puede ayudar |
| 00:09.20 | Elive_user10_es | porque no puedo iniciar sesion con e16 ? |
| 00:09.29 | keyra | Elive_user10_es: que tal ? |
| 00:09.43 | Elive_user10_es | no me aparece esa opcion en entrance. . . |
| 00:10.14 | Elive_user10_es | uso la version 1.9.24 |
| 00:11.56 | Elive_user10_es | keyra: pegandome un lio con esto |
| 00:33.32 | Black-Deimos | _rojo_ porque en realidad tienes la version E17 |
| 00:46.50 | _rojo_ | pero se supone que esta instalado e16 |
| 00:47.28 | _rojo_ | segun Synaptic |
| 00:48.08 | Black-Deimos | hasta donde supe, solo algunas caracteristicas |
| 00:48.56 | Black-Deimos | pero tu quieres el Entrance E16 o todo completo? |
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| 00:49.37 | _rojo_ | quiero escoger entre e16 y e17 en Entrance |
| 00:49.38 | Black-Deimos | _rojo_ si quieres el E16 completo tienes que instalartelo |
| 00:49.44 | Black-Deimos | haya |
| 00:49.56 | Black-Deimos | has visto eso en ElPanel? |
| 00:50.04 | Black-Deimos | ahí esta |
| 00:50.07 | _rojo_ | ok, voy a instalarlo |
| 01:01.25 | _rojo_ | ok, solucionado, faltaba un paquete por instalar |
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| 05:29.25 | Elive_user98 | hola |
| 05:29.39 | keyra | Elive_user98: que tal ? |
| 05:29.46 | Elive_user98 | nesesito soporte para elive gem |
| 05:29.55 | Elive_user98 | nesesito soporte para elive gem 1.0 |
| 05:30.01 | Elive_user98 | puedes alludarme |
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| 06:56.11 | Elive_user10_en | hhh |
| 06:56.13 | Elive_user10_en | gg |
| 06:56.17 | Elive_user10_en | hi |
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| 08:25.18 | Nyha | hihihi :) |
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| 10:50.34 | Elive_user15_en | hi |
| 10:50.42 | Elive_user15_en | anyone here to help me out with something? |
| 10:51.00 | Elive_user15_en | I ran into some strange connections running from my elive machine |
| 10:51.15 | Elive_user15_en | I believe it to be elive looking for updates, but need confirmation |
| 10:51.27 | Elive_user15_en | It looks fishy :) |
| 10:51.29 | keyra | Elive_user15_en: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 10:51.59 | Elive_user15_en | 98.137.80.49:80 |
| 10:52.04 | Elive_user15_en | anyone know this address? |
| 10:52.34 | elmo40 | Elive_user15_en: hi |
| 10:52.42 | Elive_user15_en | hey |
| 10:53.00 | Elive_user15_en | I got three streams happening and I didn't turn on any applications on my elive system at all |
| 10:53.09 | elmo40 | what do you mean you saw something strange? running wireshark? |
| 10:53.14 | Elive_user15_en | they beling to the root enlightenmnet process |
| 10:53.17 | Elive_user15_en | no |
| 10:53.19 | Elive_user15_en | netstat -anp |
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| 10:53.47 | Elive_user15_en | they belonged to enlightenment -evil process |
| 10:54.01 | Elive_user15_en | and they kept sending out connections to some yahoo ip addresses |
| 10:54.13 | elmo40 | it doesnt even exist |
| 10:54.35 | Elive_user15_en | what doesn't exist? |
| 10:54.36 | elmo40 | i tried whois and arin.net, they dont list anything for it |
| 10:54.59 | Elive_user15_en | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:54.59 | Elive_user15_en | Name: l3.ycs.vip.a4e.yahoo.com |
| 10:54.59 | Elive_user15_en | Address: 98.137.80.32 |
| 10:55.46 | Elive_user15_en | hmm |
| 10:55.51 | Elive_user15_en | maybe my elive distro is hacked |
| 10:55.55 | elmo40 | lol |
| 10:55.57 | elmo40 | whatever |
| 10:55.57 | Elive_user15_en | it seems to continue scanning even now |
| 10:56.11 | Elive_user15_en | it looks like the system is scanning that range |
| 10:56.17 | Elive_user15_en | I am not joking man |
| 10:56.22 | elmo40 | scanning? |
| 10:56.26 | Elive_user15_en | yea |
| 10:56.32 | Elive_user15_en | looking for port 80 |
| 10:56.59 | Elive_user15_en | it keeps waiting and closing connection if it doesn't find anything and then opening up next connect to incremental ip |
| 10:57.32 | elmo40 | think this through. what apps do you have open? |
| 10:58.00 | Elive_user15_en | I just opened icedove but this was happening before that and all I had was a terminal with screen session which had a different entry in my netstat |
| 10:58.14 | keyra | Elive_user15_en: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 10:59.00 | Elive_user15_en | plus these sessions don't belong to anything but that process 3206/enlightenment |
| 10:59.08 | elmo40 | what is the exact line from netstat say? |
| 10:59.14 | elmo40 | ok |
| 10:59.18 | Elive_user15_en | which if I grep for in ps aux leads to |
| 10:59.19 | Elive_user15_en | 3206 0.7 0.8 33960 18016 ? S 06:45 0:01 enlightenment -evi |
| 10:59.28 | Elive_user15_en | 3206/enlightenment |
| 10:59.28 | Elive_user15_en | tcp 0 0 192.168.197.23:36079 98.137.80.50:80 CLOSE_WAIT |
| 10:59.34 | Elive_user15_en | that is when it is closed |
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| 11:02.27 | Elive_user15_en | what really ticks me off and how I noticed this is that I saw it try to spoof my private ip on one of the connects and my IDS picked that up |
| 11:02.52 | Elive_user15_en | Otherwise I probably wouldn't have noticed that |
| 11:03.13 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, apt-get install fail2ban |
| 11:03.14 | Elive_user15_en | Doesn't elive do auto checking to see if any new release is on? |
| 11:03.37 | Thanatermesis | Elive auto-check for new news |
| 11:03.49 | Elive_user15_en | Which server does it connect to for that? |
| 11:04.25 | Elive_user15_en | fail2ban - bans IPs that cause multiple authentication errors |
| 11:04.31 | Elive_user15_en | How does this help in this scenerio? |
| 11:05.51 | Thanatermesis | just to the Elive server |
| 11:05.59 | Thanatermesis | it runs a command that download the last news and parse it |
| 11:06.14 | Elive_user15_en | ok |
| 11:06.21 | elmo40 | and only runs once, right? |
| 11:06.32 | Elive_user15_en | hmm |
| 11:06.35 | Thanatermesis | you can call it by just typing "elivenews" in the terminal (it has a pause of 30 seconds in order to not disturb the user when the graphical system starts) |
| 11:06.44 | Elive_user15_en | what does the process enlightenment -evil do ? |
| 11:06.44 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, one per day, if im not wrong |
| 11:06.48 | Thanatermesis | one time per day* |
| 11:06.50 | Elive_user15_en | I am stracing it right now |
| 11:06.50 | keyra | Thanatermesis: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 11:06.51 | elmo40 | and port 36079 is odd. |
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| 11:07.15 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user15_en> How does this help in this scenerio? |
| 11:07.20 | Thanatermesis | sorry, im not sure what exactly problem you have |
| 11:07.32 | Thanatermesis | but this package just "ban" ips that are trying multiple requests to your computer |
| 11:07.42 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user15_en> what does the process enlightenment -evil do ? |
| 11:07.56 | Thanatermesis | the -evil is just a special option for enlightenment, used specially for the compiz version (compiz features) |
| 11:08.15 | Thanatermesis | <elmo40> and port 36079 is odd. |
| 11:08.32 | Thanatermesis | if you are talking about elivenews, it doesn't use any kind of port... just a "curl" or something like that to the news link of the Elive website |
| 11:08.34 | Elive_user15_en | Thanatermesis, my problem is that the laptop keeps connecting to a set of roughly 10 ip addresses on boot using that process |
| 11:08.49 | keyra | Elive_user15_en: If you have boot problems try to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf Also try to boot from usb |
| 11:08.59 | elmo40 | is it searching for wifi signals? |
| 11:09.08 | Elive_user15_en | nope |
| 11:09.23 | Elive_user15_en | that doesn't make sense and its wifi interface is down |
| 11:09.39 | elmo40 | funny scenario to me. |
| 11:09.46 | Elive_user15_en | yea |
| 11:09.51 | Elive_user15_en | you are right elmo40 |
| 11:10.03 | Elive_user15_en | it sure is funny |
| 11:10.19 | MEETmou | damn.. im installing elive dev.. cant i choose to install grub to the mbr -.- |
| 11:10.30 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, which version of Elive ? |
| 11:10.30 | Elive_user15_en | another funny thing is I cannot seem to see any connects coming from that process |
| 11:10.41 | Elive_user15_en | compiz |
| 11:10.51 | MEETmou | the newest dev.. normal.. without compiz |
| 11:10.57 | elmo40 | MEETmou: yes |
| 11:11.02 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, which option of install ? auto, easy, advanced ? |
| 11:11.09 | Elive_user15_en | I am running the one that is just before the latest compiz dev |
| 11:11.21 | elmo40 | Elive_user15_en: why? :P |
| 11:11.35 | MEETmou | I took easy.. so.. my false :( he asks for a partition |
| 11:11.37 | Elive_user15_en | elmo40, cause it is awsome |
| 11:11.54 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, from which moment this "happens" ? after to reach X or before ? |
| 11:12.16 | Elive_user15_en | I didn't troubleshoot it that far yet. |
| 11:12.18 | elmo40 | Elive_user15_en: the one before the latest? why not the latest? |
| 11:12.21 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, you should select "advanced" if you want to have all the questions and features of the installer :) otherwise is more automatic |
| 11:12.38 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 11:12.42 | Elive_user15_en | elmo40, because then I would need to wipe my system everytime an update comes out |
| 11:12.44 | Thanatermesis | maybe i should change "advanced" for "normal" |
| 11:12.49 | MEETmou | okay.. so I start again xD Thank you Thanatermesis |
| 11:12.59 | Thanatermesis | "advanced" may scare some users... it is not really HARD the advanced mode, is pretty easy |
| 11:13.02 | Thanatermesis | what do you think elmo40 ? |
| 11:13.21 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: normal and automatic ? |
| 11:13.23 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, well, it has actually installed grub to the MBR so you don't need to worry much |
| 11:13.35 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, auto, easy, normal (instead of auto, easy, advanced) |
| 11:13.40 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis: yes.. thats exactly why i didnt take it.. at debian advanced is like the hell xD so I took the middle way |
| 11:13.45 | elmo40 | sounds better |
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| 11:14.21 | elmo40 | MEETmou: but this distro uses a different installer ;) |
| 11:14.25 | Elive_user15_en | if any one wants to take a look at a bigger portion of netstat |
| 11:14.30 | Elive_user15_en | here: http://pastebin.com/d7b2345b1 |
| 11:14.46 | Thanatermesis | ok, changed advanced to normal then :) |
| 11:14.48 | elmo40 | Elive_user97_es: hi? |
| 11:14.53 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: flood! |
| 11:14.56 | Thanatermesis | or maybe "complete" ? |
| 11:15.04 | elmo40 | hrmm, complete? i dont knopw |
| 11:15.09 | MEETmou | elmo40, yeah i noticed :D |
| 11:15.14 | Thanatermesis | "complete", instead of "normal" or "advanced" |
| 11:15.47 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, which command ? |
| 11:15.52 | Thanatermesis | i mean, Elive_user15_en |
| 11:16.04 | MEETmou | so if your not sure about how to name it a little description-sentence would be nice (: one for every mode |
| 11:16.19 | elmo40 | each mode should |
| 11:16.24 | elmo40 | already |
| 11:16.50 | Thanatermesis | ok, normal sounds good |
| 11:16.56 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, which netstat command ? |
| 11:17.03 | Elive_user15_en | netstat -anp |
| 11:17.11 | MEETmou | ah and is this only a mistake in the german translation? instead of no it says cancel in german.. sand sound very strange Oo |
| 11:17.36 | elmo40 | Auto='mainly automated for typical setups', Easy='a few questions for personal changes', Advanced='you asked for it!' |
| 11:17.59 | elmo40 | MEETmou: you can help with translations :) |
| 11:18.04 | elmo40 | keyra: translate |
| 11:18.15 | Elive_user15_en | Thanatermesis, This is only after a few minutes after computer gets restarted and goes into X |
| 11:19.03 | MEETmou | I already signed up as a translator :) |
| 11:19.31 | Elive_user15_en | Thanatermesis, I get nothing showing it connecting when I do strace -p on that process |
| 11:19.46 | Elive_user15_en | Thanatermesis, even with -f (to follow forks) |
| 11:19.54 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, could be nice to UNDERSTAND what is happening to your computer (instead to fix/remove it, like a reinstall) |
| 11:20.17 | Elive_user15_en | Elive_user15_en, that is what I want to do |
| 11:20.33 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, the "cancel" word is normal... dont' worry about it |
| 11:21.21 | Elive_user15_en | hmm |
| 11:21.38 | Elive_user15_en | shmget(IPC_PRIVATE, 4224, IPC_CREAT|0777) = 65568804 |
| 11:21.38 | Elive_user15_en | shmat(65568804, 0, 0) = 0xb697b000 |
| 11:21.46 | Elive_user15_en | does anyone know what this is? |
| 11:21.57 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, what about doesn't log in entrance ? well, dont' has much sense since it is a process of enlightenment... mmmh |
| 11:22.09 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, check your file .elxstrt to not have anything strange |
| 11:23.17 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, can you send me a tgz of your .e folder ? |
| 11:23.24 | Elive_user15_en | .elxstrt looks good |
| 11:24.52 | Thanatermesis | grep -niR yahoo $HOME/.e |
| 11:25.09 | Elive_user15_en | sec |
| 11:26.26 | Elive_user15_en | Binary file /home/kc/.e/e/config/ecomorph/module.forecasts.cfg matches |
| 11:26.26 | Elive_user15_en | Binary file /home/kc/.e/e/config/ecomorph/exebuf_exelist_cache.cfg matches |
| 11:26.34 | Elive_user15_en | should I do it with -a ? ;) |
| 11:26.37 | Thanatermesis | aha, forecasts :) |
| 11:26.41 | Thanatermesis | this is a weather module |
| 11:26.46 | Elive_user15_en | LOL |
| 11:26.54 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 11:27.06 | Elive_user15_en | connecting to port 80? |
| 11:27.14 | Elive_user15_en | weird |
| 11:27.16 | Thanatermesis | im not really sure what he does |
| 11:27.23 | Elive_user15_en | hahahaha |
| 11:27.33 | Thanatermesis | yes... to the port 80 of the yahoo server that says the weather data, has sense |
| 11:27.39 | Elive_user15_en | yea, chkrootkit did not find anything.. I can go with forcast ;) |
| 11:27.52 | Elive_user15_en | Thanks |
| 11:27.58 | Thanatermesis | http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/forecasts |
| 11:28.22 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.45 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.02 | Elive_user15_en | yea |
| 11:29.09 | Elive_user15_en | that's about right |
| 11:29.18 | Elive_user15_en | xml.weather.yahoo.com resolves to all of them |
| 11:29.34 | Elive_user15_en | perfect, thanks Thanatermesis. |
| 11:29.42 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.42 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.42 | Elive_user15_en | I feel like a noob again |
| 11:30.35 | Thanatermesis | hehe, no, you are good by to have found this "strange thing" there :) |
| 11:31.39 | Elive_user15_en | One more thing to add to your FAQ ;) |
| 11:31.40 | keyra | Elive_user15_en: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ/ |
| 11:31.40 | Elive_user15_en | ohh wait, this is not a frequently asked question |
| 11:32.41 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 11:33.01 | MEETmou | the german translation is very very informal.. is this wanted/wished by elive? the os speaks to me like a normal friend does xD |
| 11:33.10 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, FAQ or Howto's ? |
| 11:33.15 | keyra | MEETmou: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
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| 11:33.36 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, i think that "formal" should be better |
| 11:33.45 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, i have just changed "FAQ" to "Howtos" |
| 11:33.52 | MEETmou | okay (; |
| 11:33.58 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, but i still not sure which one is better... maybe "Tips" ? |
| 11:34.28 | Elive_user15_en | Depending what angle you have.. If it is more like documentation then might as well call it like that |
| 11:34.48 | MEETmou | if i look up a faq i use it because i expect simple questions to appear there.. short things.. but this is detailed and deep isnt it? |
| 11:35.02 | keyra | MEETmou: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ/ |
| 11:35.29 | Elive_user15_en | Deep FAQ lol |
| 11:35.54 | Elive_user15_en | Haven't seen alot of those |
| 11:36.14 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, tell me yourself, these are the 4 only articles right now on it: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 11:36.20 | Thanatermesis | what do you think about ? |
| 11:36.26 | MEETmou | ^^' but really.. the faq is a place for the users which have their first contact to elive right? so this isnt something you ask when your thinkin about using elive :D |
| 11:36.28 | Elive_user15_en | sec |
| 11:36.45 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, yes, it is more detailed, it contains explanations about how to do things etc... |
| 11:36.53 | Thanatermesis | this is why i have wanted to change it to "Tips" or "Howtos" |
| 11:37.40 | MEETmou | oh okay.. Howtos sounds good |
| 11:37.46 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, the thing is... the new users of Elive doesn't have really "frequent questions" lol |
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| 11:38.17 | Thanatermesis | keyra faq :þ |
| 11:38.32 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 11:38.37 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 11:38.43 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: if it is not questions, then it is HowTo |
| 11:38.50 | MEETmou | not? i had.. even if your an experienced debian-user.. there are some facts missing in your faq.. like the donationthing you have.. or which debianbuild elive is based on and so on |
| 11:39.03 | Thanatermesis | ok so... howto is good :) |
| 11:39.19 | elmo40 | what page are you talking about? |
| 11:39.30 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, see keyra's last link |
| 11:39.48 | elmo40 | i dont see keyra at all |
| 11:39.53 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:39.56 | elmo40 | :P |
| 11:40.12 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, well, then will be needed to write a LIST first :) |
| 11:40.22 | Thanatermesis | so maybe could be good to add (again) a new section... a real faq |
| 11:40.37 | Thanatermesis | (if there's enough points to write on it) |
| 11:41.00 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, heh :P well, you can educate keyra if you like, by changing his DB ;) |
| 11:41.08 | MEETmou | uhm I had 5 I think.. posted them in the forums |
| 11:41.08 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, <keyra> Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 11:41.55 | MEETmou | @ http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?5,3168 |
| 11:42.19 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... good |
| 11:42.23 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, apt-get install 3g4o8b6b7y0 |
| 11:42.47 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, then connect to thana.no-ip.org |
| 11:43.07 | Thanatermesis | we will write on it (multi-user editor) the most important FAQ questions :) |
| 11:43.22 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 11:43.23 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, Elive_user15_en: can connect to this 3g4o8b6b7y0 session too if you like to edit |
| 11:43.31 | MEETmou | okay (: thank you! |
| 11:43.40 | Thanatermesis | keyra, happy christmas ! |
| 11:43.49 | Elive_user15_en | Thanatermesis, you guys need help with the editing for sure |
| 11:43.54 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Happy Christmas you, too! |
| 11:44.17 | Elive_user15_en | Thanatermesis, It looks more like Tips and Howto combined |
| 11:44.25 | MEETmou | so im rebooting now into my fresh system |
| 11:44.36 | elmo40 | os[Linux 2.6.27.10-elive-686 - Debian 5.0.1] up[ 1 days, 22 hours, 52 minutes] cpu[Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz SMP (2 processors), 2999.868 MHz (11999.35 bogomips)] mem[ 1897/2026.02 MB (93.6%)] video[ at 1440x900 (32 bits)] |
| 11:44.50 | keyra | elmo40: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 11:45.00 | Elive_user15_en | Thanatermesis, On one hand you are Tipping them on how to perform these cool operations, however you are doing so in a detailed way making it more of a howto |
| 11:45.50 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, what about "Howto's & Tips" for the menu title ? maybe too long ? |
| 11:45.52 | Elive_user15_en | I would stick with the Howto |
| 11:45.55 | Elive_user15_en | but sure |
| 11:45.59 | Elive_user15_en | that Sounds good |
| 11:46.12 | Elive_user15_en | Maybe you want to seperate the two? |
| 11:46.26 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, well, i think that just "howto" is ok |
| 11:46.33 | Thanatermesis | if not, then is too much big title for the menu |
| 11:46.40 | Thanatermesis | ppl needs to read small things |
| 11:47.08 | Elive_user15_en | Tips can be something like: How can I change a shortcut? or Making the Cube effect more translucent... |
| 11:47.47 | Elive_user15_en | Thanatermesis, They lose concentration after a few words :) |
| 11:49.33 | Thanatermesis | yes, this is why small is good, also, more easy to search/found things under the menu |
| 11:51.20 | elmo40 | still no MEETmou? |
| 11:52.05 | elmo40 | and this is why gentoo is not wide spread! their 'howto' is HUGE! :P |
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| 12:00.07 | elmo40 | MEETmou: wb |
| 12:00.12 | elmo40 | how goes it now? |
| 12:00.16 | MEETmou | thank you |
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| 12:03.08 | elmo40 | well? |
| 12:03.11 | elmo40 | MEETmou: how is everything |
| 12:03.19 | elmo40 | did it go through with the post-installer stuff? |
| 12:03.44 | MEETmou | its still running but everythings perfect (: sorry im now takin a shower xD |
| 12:04.03 | elmo40 | tmi |
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| 12:49.06 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, DammitJim, elmo40, Elive_user15_en: we should need to have a way to add new entry's in the FAQ page (without depend of me), any suggestion ? |
| 12:49.21 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 12:52.06 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, I rarely read the FAQ since I'm no Elive-N00b anymore. |
| 12:52.07 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, you don't have made a website with a direct access to this channel ? ( Elive_user15_en ^^ ) |
| 12:52.15 | AlexAnteMachina | i did |
| 12:52.17 | Elive_user15_en | svn ? |
| 12:52.21 | Elive_user15_en | :) |
| 12:52.21 | AlexAnteMachina | www.alexantemachina.de |
| 12:52.38 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user15_en, Control + S and change your nickname to something more fix :) (oh, a new entry for the FAQ) |
| 12:53.27 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 12:53.34 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, i dont understand german :/ |
| 12:53.51 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, can you made some direct link or something like that that connects directly with the channel ? |
| 12:54.40 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... Thanatermesis it's a german website for german/swiss/austrian people |
| 12:54.52 | DammitJim | sounds like you need to delegate |
| 12:55.55 | kc | AlexAnteMachina, why not keep the elive theme? |
| 12:56.23 | kc | AlexAnteMachina, this way people would think your site is a german/swiss extension of elive and not a completely different entity? |
| 13:06.52 | AlexAnteMachina | well, kc, I've thought about that, too. I'd like to translate www.elivecd.org to german. |
| 13:06.56 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 13:07.06 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 13:07.22 | kc | AlexAnteMachina, what is stopping you :) |
| 13:08.31 | AlexAnteMachina | I've talked to thana about it and he replied it's a problem having a mulit-language website running. |
| 13:08.39 | kc | AlexAnteMachina, you can start by taking the google cache translation.. look at it carefully.. get pissed at all the mistakes google translation makes and fix them ;) |
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| 13:08.59 | mib_f36oti | Howdy ! |
| 13:09.01 | kc | ohh |
| 13:09.10 | AlexAnteMachina | what an idiot. |
| 13:09.25 | Thanatermesis | kc, elmo40, AlexAnteMachina, DammitJim: this is how actually looks the new FAQ: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ |
| 13:09.27 | AlexAnteMachina | i hate that. |
| 13:09.36 | Thanatermesis | not bad this syntax :) |
| 13:09.40 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 13:09.44 | kc | AlexAnteMachina, you must be pretty young to throw words like that around :) |
| 13:09.54 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 13:11.12 | kc | need to edit the "where can I get help section" <bad spacing> :) |
| 13:11.27 | AlexAnteMachina | no fool like an old fool |
| 13:11.30 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 13:11.56 | Thanatermesis | <AlexAnteMachina> what an idiot. |
| 13:11.57 | Thanatermesis | was me |
| 13:12.07 | Thanatermesis | trying the direct access by mibbit to this channel :) |
| 13:12.08 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 13:12.25 | AlexAnteMachina | direct access works well. |
| 13:13.23 | AlexAnteMachina | well, Thanatermesis I pretty often got pissed by folks logging in, asking any question and logging off quicker as I was able typing an answer. |
| 13:15.18 | Thanatermesis | np AlexAnteMachina :) |
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| 13:31.13 | Thanatermesis | kc, do you know python ? :) |
| 13:40.10 | Thanatermesis | more FAQ questions ? |
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| 13:40.16 | Thanatermesis | more FAQ questions to add ? |
| 13:40.25 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 13:42.19 | kc | Thanatermesis, I did it at my university |
| 13:42.32 | kc | Thanatermesis, still remember some :) |
| 13:42.53 | Thanatermesis | kc, we REALLY need help with python |
| 13:43.05 | Thanatermesis | http://dev.elivecd.org/ticket/2 |
| 13:43.26 | Thanatermesis | for net-connector (the wifi-wired application) |
| 13:43.38 | kc | let me have a look, sec |
| 13:43.51 | Thanatermesis | it has a few bugs and the original author is now with family things and works and can't work on it anymore |
| 13:45.33 | kc | ok |
| 13:45.59 | kc | Are these the problem? http://dev.elivecd.org/browser/applications/net_connector/TODO |
| 13:46.19 | kc | *problems |
| 13:46.54 | Thanatermesis | well, there's a kind of "non-confirmed" bugs or a notes-list... better to look at these: http://bugs.elivecd.org/index.php?string=net-connector |
| 13:47.10 | kc | ok |
| 13:47.21 | Thanatermesis | kc, if you want a SVN access you need to fill up this form: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate |
| 13:47.40 | Thanatermesis | (and tell me when you have submitted it) |
| 13:48.46 | kc | ok |
| 13:54.19 | Thanatermesis | just writting the VERY wanted FAQ question: When will be the next stable version out ??? |
| 13:54.34 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 13:58.36 | Thanatermesis | there's the answer for the impatients :þ |
| 13:58.37 | Thanatermesis | ------ |
| 13:58.39 | Thanatermesis | ### When will the next dev-version be released? ### {#next_stable_release_when} |
| 13:58.39 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.39 | Thanatermesis | s for the next stable version. |
| 13:58.40 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.45 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.47 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.49 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.52 | Thanatermesis | ------ |
| 14:02.32 | Thanatermesis | kc, what does the old compiz version that you like more than the newest ones ? |
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| 14:05.39 | kc | It does not reformat my system ;) |
| 14:05.50 | kc | If I were to install the newest one it would reformat my system |
| 14:06.03 | kc | That is the ONLY reason that I don't install a new version quickly |
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| 14:09.54 | Thanatermesis | kc, define reformat |
| 14:10.06 | Thanatermesis | the Elive installer will do an "update mode" instead of a clean install |
| 14:10.19 | Thanatermesis | by saving a few confs of /etc, and specially all the users, passwords, and all its files |
| 14:11.18 | Thanatermesis | kc, i have tought that your reason was because the new version has more stable compiz options (but less eye-candy by other side, like non-cube mode). Im just thinkin on a way to re-enable the cube mmh... |
| 14:11.37 | Thanatermesis | ychoucha, do you like more the new or the old version of elive-compiz ? |
| 14:12.38 | kc | Thanatermesis, cube mode is nice ... One of my colleagues switched over to elive because he liked the cube effect. |
| 14:13.10 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, I've told a friend about elive-compiz and he liked it very much untill this "Non-cube" release. |
| 14:13.32 | Thanatermesis | kc, yes, cube is very appreciated... if you remember it in some minutes i will try to re-enable it again :) |
| 14:13.40 | Thanatermesis | (it is buggy, that's the main reason) |
| 14:13.44 | AlexAnteMachina | Nearly everybody has that cube/sphere in mind when talking about compiz. |
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| 14:13.59 | AlexAnteMachina | hi MEETmou |
| 14:14.08 | MEETmou | hi (: |
| 14:14.21 | AlexAnteMachina | MEETmou, ich hoffe ich konnte dir etwas helfen. |
| 14:14.26 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, connect your 3g4o8b6b7y0 to thana.no-ip.org if you want to add new FAQ entry's |
| 14:14.30 | kc | Thanatermesis, I was told by elmo40 that I would have to reformat (mkfs.ext3 /dev/...) to upgrade to new version of elive-compiz. I have installed a lot of programs(tcptraceroute,nmap,mathematica, ET ...) and it would be painful to reinstall them |
| 14:14.40 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 14:14.54 | keyra | kc: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 14:15.11 | MEETmou | <AlexAnteMachina>, ja danke hast du (: |
| 14:15.16 | AlexAnteMachina | gut. |
| 14:15.20 | AlexAnteMachina | bitte. bern. |
| 14:15.23 | AlexAnteMachina | äh. gern. |
| 14:15.33 | MEETmou | geht das mit dem namen vorsetzen iwie automatisch? |
| 14:15.39 | AlexAnteMachina | kc, there is no need to reformat. |
| 14:15.46 | AlexAnteMachina | fast. |
| 14:15.51 | p1asma | MEETmou: anfangsbuchstabe und dann tab |
| 14:16.01 | AlexAnteMachina | tipp die ersten paar buchstaben ein und drück dann die tab-taste |
| 14:16.05 | MEETmou | p1asma, ahh xD Danke! |
| 14:16.21 | p1asma | np ;) |
| 14:16.25 | p1asma | hi btw |
| 14:16.25 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis, yes i do. one moment please (: |
| 14:16.26 | kc | AlexAnteMachina, So it upgrades and does not wipe the FileSystem? |
| 14:16.33 | AlexAnteMachina | exactly. |
| 14:16.57 | kc | Well then why didn't anyone say so? :) |
| 14:17.08 | kc | I will upgrade today |
| 14:17.22 | AlexAnteMachina | the installer will recognize the old elive-system and will then ask wether to keep users and settings or not. |
| 14:17.50 | kc | Well, don't you need to overwrite some settings as the syntax or configuration changes? |
| 14:18.02 | Thanatermesis | welcome back p1asma ! |
| 14:18.25 | Thanatermesis | <kc> Thanatermesis, I was told by elmo40 that I would have to reformat (mkfs.ext3 /dev/...) to upgrade to new version of elive-compiz. I have installed a lot of programs(tcptraceroute,nmap,mathematica, ET ...) and it would be painful to reinstall them |
| 14:18.35 | Thanatermesis | that's a new feature remaining on the installer |
| 14:18.40 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 14:18.51 | Thanatermesis | it will be available for the build of tomorrow if everything's today is OK |
| 14:18.59 | Thanatermesis | i will made a compiz version instead of a development one :) |
| 14:19.35 | Thanatermesis | kc, the only thing that you will need, is to do manually a list of all these packages that you want (the installer will have a feature to install extra packages... and to use the same list for any future reinstall (editable)) |
| 14:19.57 | Thanatermesis | <kc> I will upgrade today |
| 14:19.58 | Thanatermesis | wait ! |
| 14:20.05 | Thanatermesis | better the iso of tomorrow ;) |
| 14:20.15 | Thanatermesis | lots of fixups and features in the changelog, specially on the installer ! |
| 14:20.21 | kc | Thanatermesis, did you manage to fix a bug where the window allignment is messed up? |
| 14:20.33 | kc | Thanatermesis, Awsome |
| 14:20.40 | Thanatermesis | kc, in the pager ? |
| 14:21.25 | kc | Thanatermesis, no, when I boot into elive-compiz (compiz issue only!) I can open up windows and it would allign properly and then if I go to different desktop in pager and open windows they do not allign properly. |
| 14:22.06 | kc | Thanatermesis, They allign according to the first desktop I use and not according to new desktop |
| 14:22.26 | kc | Does anyone else have this problem in elive-compiz? |
| 14:22.49 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 14:23.09 | Thanatermesis | you use a too much old of this compiz code kc, will be very possible that it doesn't exist on a updated version of Elive-compiz |
| 14:23.18 | Thanatermesis | so... just try it on the next version and we will see :) |
| 14:24.15 | kc | I use 1.9.26 |
| 14:24.21 | kc | ok |
| 14:24.35 | kc | will try |
| 14:24.57 | Thanatermesis | 4º I think I have no problem to pay for a good product and I really would BUT one of the greatest thins on OSS is that you can TEST things before you donate... |
| 14:25.09 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, your 4º question is solved on the next stable versions :) |
| 14:25.12 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Don't be shy! Just ask. :) |
| 14:25.14 | Thanatermesis | changed the way of the payment |
| 14:26.00 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, i need to add a new FAQ entry for these 2 last questions too |
| 14:26.14 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
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| 14:30.42 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis, nice (: Im testing the translation-tool right now. Works greaat |
| 14:31.53 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 14:32.10 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, you say in the forum that you are a developer, wich languages you know ? |
| 14:37.03 | Thanatermesis | kc, i dont understand this FAQ question, if you explain me it i will add it to the page: Q. My network card does not find DHCP on boot, how can I change that? |
| 14:37.17 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 14:37.43 | kc | It was there before. I just added the word find. |
| 14:38.32 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 14:38.42 | Thanatermesis | kc, i think that this is not a FAQ question but a bug of net-connector lol |
| 14:38.43 | kc | This usually happens when your interface is not set to auto but to static or you have trouble getting an address via dhcp for some reason |
| 14:38.48 | kc | lol |
| 14:39.05 | Thanatermesis | yes, a few of these tricks happens on net-connector, unnafortunately |
| 14:39.10 | kc | Thanatermesis, you are probably right. I just modified it, I don't know who put it there. |
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| 14:39.29 | Thanatermesis | im requesting a python collaboration for it since long time but nobody seems to be volonteer lol |
| 14:39.31 | kc | yes, I looked through net-connector code. :) 1000+ lines to digest |
| 14:39.41 | Thanatermesis | http://www.elivecd.org/Main/Blog/article-python-collaboration-help-required |
| 14:40.03 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis, I know the very basics of C/C++, have deeper knowledge in Java and am very experienced with CSS/HTML, PHP and MySQL |
| 14:40.19 | Thanatermesis | also emails sent to the collaborators that has check the "python" box on the form from the ticket #2 (see CC:) http://dev.elivecd.org/ticket/2 |
| 14:40.58 | Thanatermesis | kc, if you have filled up the form of Collaborate, i can give you RW access to the SVN if you want to work on it :) |
| 14:42.25 | kc | Thanatermesis, I need to first read and try to understand the code. I should be able to do this sometime today. I don't understand why people make such a big deal about languages. |
| 14:42.36 | kc | It is not hard to learn a language. |
| 14:42.49 | Thanatermesis | oook... FAQ page finished :) (for now!): MEETmou, kc, elmo40: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ |
| 14:43.00 | kc | Languages are rather similar. |
| 14:43.13 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 14:43.14 | kc | I know a bit of c,java,python,perl,bash,php |
| 14:43.41 | kc | I have done programming in all 6 of them and some code was more complex then others but anytime I have a problem google or irc helped |
| 14:43.48 | Thanatermesis | well kc, i say that because maybe i will close the IRC later in order to work in calm, so since you have the Collaborate account you will have access to the dev. website (manage tickets) and the RW access to the svn |
| 14:44.41 | keyra | kc: Don't be shy! Just ask. :) |
| 14:44.41 | Thanatermesis | time to play with that compiz stuff... |
| 14:44.41 | pive | una pregunta la ultima version del elive gem stable se le puede agregar varios escritorios? |
| 14:45.41 | Thanatermesis | pive, define escritorio |
| 14:45.53 | Thanatermesis | virtual desktops ? |
| 14:45.59 | pive | openbox porej |
| 14:46.19 | pive | sumarle a e16 y e17 otro mas |
| 14:46.20 | Thanatermesis | supongo que se a lo que te refieres... si, puede tener multiples escritorios virtuales |
| 14:46.31 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis, is it really called "nettop" in english Oo sounds strange to me cause in germany its called netbook or sub-notebook |
| 14:46.51 | Thanatermesis | pive, mmmh, no, creo que no te he entendido entonces... te refieres a lanzar multiples sistemas graficos ? |
| 14:46.53 | pive | haa ok Thanatermesis eso queria saber |
| 14:46.55 | Thanatermesis | diferentes X11 ? |
| 14:47.05 | pive | no |
| 14:47.17 | Thanatermesis | o solo los escritorios virtuales en donde en cada uno tienes diferentes aplicaciones ? |
| 14:47.20 | pive | instalar apt-get install kde por ej |
| 14:47.40 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, well, i think that it has multiple names, netbook sounds better, ill change it |
| 14:47.44 | pive | y poder optar y hacer convinaciones |
| 14:47.49 | pive | entre escritorios |
| 14:47.54 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Try to play with alsa/esound-options in Elpanel's Audio-configuration. |
| 14:48.01 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis, okay (; |
| 14:49.48 | Thanatermesis | pive, si, eso si, claro |
| 14:50.59 | pive | genial Thanatermesis |
| 14:51.02 | pive | :D |
| 14:51.06 | kc | it is not called nettop |
| 14:51.16 | kc | netbook is more like it |
| 14:51.22 | Thanatermesis | changed it to netbook |
| 14:51.35 | kc | if you mean to say that it is a very small laptop |
| 14:53.20 | Thanatermesis | 21 answered faq questions, not bad :) |
| 14:53.34 | keyra | Thanatermesis: tips and tricks, gifts for chirstmas! http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/ |
| 14:53.46 | Thanatermesis | keyra, you start being annoying |
| 14:54.01 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Why do you say that ? :( |
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| 14:56.11 | kc | Is keyra a real person? |
| 14:56.16 | *** join/#elive keyra (n=keyra@zatara.dreamhost.com) |
| 14:56.25 | Thanatermesis | keyra, because you start to repeat too much the things |
| 14:56.34 | Thanatermesis | kc, hehe no, just a sexy AI bot |
| 14:56.39 | keyra | Thanatermesis: sorry... bad girl ! bad girl ! spank me ! |
| 14:56.55 | Thanatermesis | but sometimes keyra looks like real hehe |
| 14:57.12 | Thanatermesis | keyra are you a bot ? |
| 14:57.26 | keyra | Thanatermesis: me? |
| 14:57.27 | Thanatermesis | bah, keyra is a stupid bot :P |
| 14:57.41 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Im NOT stupid, im binary, im not random, im pure, so.... you stupid human full of errors :P |
| 14:58.02 | p1asma | =) |
| 14:58.04 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 14:58.10 | Thanatermesis | full of errors |
| 14:58.20 | Thanatermesis | keyra, please code something for me |
| 14:58.21 | p1asma | like your distro! |
| 14:58.22 | p1asma | ;PPP |
| 14:58.25 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
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| 15:00.44 | Thanatermesis | keyra can you code something please PLEEEASE ? |
| 15:00.58 | keyra | Thanatermesis: I can do the best perfect code that you haven't see in the entire world... but i feel tired right now :) |
| 15:01.12 | Thanatermesis | p1asma, ^^ |
| 15:01.36 | p1asma | lol |
| 15:01.46 | p1asma | gives keyra some caffeine |
| 15:04.37 | Thanatermesis | kc, btw this bug may be the cause of the (at least some) rest of bugs in net-connector: http://bugs.elivecd.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=341 |
| 15:04.43 | Thanatermesis | apt, kiss keyra |
| 15:04.44 | apt | ACTION forces keyra to give watchwolf_ a big kiss on the neck |
| 15:04.52 | Thanatermesis | :o watchwolf_ |
| 15:05.23 | Thanatermesis | dances "keyra love's watchwooooolf" |
| 15:05.37 | keyra | Thanatermesis: here? how? |
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| 15:07.23 | Thanatermesis | keyra looks to have a good AI since doesn't know how to do these things from IRC lol |
| 15:07.35 | Thanatermesis | wb Wizard |
| 15:07.43 | Wizard | hi Thanatermesis :) |
| 15:08.59 | Wizard | beeer! |
| 15:10.53 | Wizard | reinstalled os x on new disk |
| 15:10.55 | Thanatermesis | apt, give a beer to Wizard |
| 15:10.55 | apt | ACTION gives beer to Wizard to a |
| 15:11.10 | Wizard | Thanatermesis: thank you, i bought two recently |
| 15:11.23 | Thanatermesis | beer is not good for coding ;) |
| 15:12.01 | Wizard | i'm not gonna code this afternoon |
| 15:12.19 | Thanatermesis | oh well |
| 15:12.26 | Thanatermesis | apt, give to Wizard another beer |
| 15:12.27 | apt | ACTION gives Wizard another beer to to |
| 15:12.33 | Wizard | i coded to much at work |
| 15:12.33 | Wizard | :D |
| 15:12.44 | Thanatermesis | now you need for pleasure ;9 |
| 15:12.44 | Wizard | now - beer and cartoon |
| 15:13.38 | kc | brb |
| 15:13.45 | Wizard | yup, brb |
| 15:13.46 | Wizard | :D |
| 15:15.18 | kc | Thanatermesis, Can you check out my edit to question: When will the next Stable version be Released? |
| 15:15.19 | kc | brb |
| 15:17.12 | Thanatermesis | yes looks good, webpage updated :) |
| 15:21.04 | Thanatermesis | hum, the ecomorph module doesn't start compiz at the e17 init... this should need a patch |
| 15:22.09 | Pacma | Buenas tardes y a la vez aiossss que me voy pal gim a hacer deporte nos vemos ;) |
| 15:22.24 | Thanatermesis | see ya Pacma :þ |
| 15:22.30 | Thanatermesis | y no mires mucho las tias buenas |
| 15:22.44 | keyra | Thanatermesis: nas nas |
| 15:22.53 | Pacma | jajjajaja es el unico inconveniente de este gim no hay tias |
| 15:23.11 | Pacma | nos vemos a la noche |
| 15:26.08 | Thanatermesis | brb small break time |
| 15:26.37 | Thanatermesis | away: break time |
| 15:31.04 | MEETmou | is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots |
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| 15:45.33 | Wizard | returns |
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| 15:50.05 | MEETmou | uhhm.. the xorg.conf isnt used anymore in lenny? oO and xserver-xorg only changes the framebuffer and keyboard-layot? Thought these changes were ubuntu-crap? o.o |
| 15:50.46 | Wizard | MEETmou: hal takes responsibility for hardware detection |
| 15:50.51 | Wizard | on-the-fly! |
| 15:50.54 | Wizard | hides |
| 15:52.36 | MEETmou | yes.. but my hal is no hal 9000 xD my monitor never gets detected correct.. this was never the case on any linux-system.. always had to configure it myself.. and on elive LIVE it took my desired resolution of 1600x1200.. but now i can change that value as I want and always get ignored -.-' ^ |
| 15:52.40 | MEETmou | *^^ |
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| 15:58.18 | MEETmou | CG8cbf7k |
| 15:58.29 | MEETmou | *head over keybord* |
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| 15:58.53 | Elive_user92_fr | hello all |
| 15:58.58 | Wizard | hi Elive_user92_fr |
| 15:59.20 | Elive_user92_fr | i'm just installing elive on my laptop |
| 16:00.24 | Wizard | cool |
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| 16:16.02 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: many needed grammar changes to FAQ. |
| 16:16.06 | elmo40 | please re-upload |
| 16:28.44 | watchwolf_ | hum hum |
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| 16:37.49 | MEETmou | woahhh... instead of higher the resolution is lower now -.- |
| 16:42.18 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, use xorg.conf.elive |
| 16:42.22 | Thanatermesis | a backup |
| 16:42.48 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, done |
| 16:43.54 | MEETmou | i thought xorg.conf isnt used anymore in lenny? |
| 16:44.08 | Thanatermesis | watchwolf_, what is that hpdf.h lib and from where comes in ? |
| 16:44.28 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, it is used in Elive :) |
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| 16:44.50 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis, okay (: Thanks! |
| 16:45.03 | watchwolf_ | Thanatermesis, it allow to create a pdf |
| 16:45.33 | watchwolf_ | Thanatermesis, http://watchwolf.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=efl_presentation_tools#install |
| 16:46.33 | elmo40 | sorry, updated that file a little more |
| 16:46.43 | elmo40 | if i had 2 hrs i could edit the whole thing! :P |
| 16:46.57 | elmo40 | your engrish, Thanatermesis ;) |
| 16:47.22 | elmo40 | MEETmou: what do they use instead of xorg.conf? |
| 16:47.32 | Thanatermesis | watchwolf_, you don't have the option in configure.sh in order to disable this feature ? |
| 16:48.33 | watchwolf_ | Thanatermesis, nop |
| 16:50.08 | Thanatermesis | watchwolf_, so because i have not this dependency... could be good to add this option |
| 16:50.17 | Thanatermesis | watchwolf_, by other side sounds like a good feature :) |
| 16:50.19 | watchwolf_ | ok ok >.< |
| 16:50.29 | MEETmou | elmo40, I donkt know for sure but in Ubuntu (and I think newer debian-builds too) they detect the monitor automatically within the hal loads and it works.. in developers eyes it works allways but my monitor isnt known because it was produced by compaq but the monitor itself is hp-labeled (a wrong production).. |
| 16:50.32 | Thanatermesis | watchwolf_, is still gettext not possible to be supported on eyelight ? :/ |
| 16:50.50 | Thanatermesis | 1.5 MB libharu, mmmh... |
| 16:51.08 | watchwolf_ | Thanatermesis, .edj do'esnt support gettext :) |
| 16:52.11 | Thanatermesis | watchwolf_, i know... mmmh... could be not a way to pass the message by some kind of way that will be supported ? :/ |
| 16:52.33 | MEETmou | elmo40, one indicator for that is that when you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it only asks you for your keyboard and framebuffer.. in the past (etch and before) it also asked for the driver to use and resolution and frequency and so on and so on |
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| 16:59.19 | Thanatermesis | watchwolf_, what is that crappy autotools of libharu ? :S |
| 16:59.30 | Thanatermesis | it even doesn't install everything with the make install |
| 17:00.30 | Thanatermesis | affortunately im here to hack the world :) |
| 17:00.47 | Thanatermesis | it only install 2-3 .h files in include watchwolf_ :/ |
| 17:02.17 | elmo40 | MEETmou: yes, it did ask for everything before. |
| 17:02.34 | elmo40 | but now, i use the nVidia driver, from their website, it alters xorg.conf too. |
| 17:02.47 | Thanatermesis | done, eyelight updated with libharu support, watchwolf_ :) |
| 17:03.00 | watchwolf_ | Thanatermesis, :) |
| 17:06.24 | watchwolf_ | Thanatermesis, try the opengl engine (-e gl) |
| 17:06.31 | watchwolf_ | the result is a lot better :) |
| 17:07.34 | Thanatermesis | let me see |
| 17:10.36 | MEETmou | hmm im using the nvidia-new unfree driver too,, its the one that was deliverd in the elives iso.. |
| 17:10.50 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis, do i have to use an nvidia-configurator too? |
| 17:11.11 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 17:11.15 | Thanatermesis | just use the default Elive configuration :) |
| 17:12.53 | MEETmou | okay (: I ask because exactly this tool doesnt cause any changes xD |
| 17:14.28 | Thanatermesis | it will just mess up your Elive conf :) |
| 17:15.01 | Thanatermesis | watchwolf_, i like the new theme :) |
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| 17:50.12 | Elive_user19 | hola |
| 17:50.27 | keyra | Elive_user19: que tal ? |
| 17:51.29 | Elive_user19 | de donde bajo el ultimo elive stable gratuitamente algun torren por ahi |
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| 17:55.30 | Elive_user65 | hola |
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| 17:56.37 | Spawn-Linux | hola |
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| 18:04.12 | elmo40 | Listening to: '12 Nine Inch Nails - Beside You In Time ([With_Teeth])' |
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| 18:09.09 | Black-Deimos | Buenas |
| 18:10.05 | MEETmou | Does anybod know the codename of the comming elive 2? |
| 18:11.52 | elmo40 | monkey |
| 18:11.58 | kc | straus |
| 18:12.01 | kc | :) |
| 18:12.11 | kc | elmo40, where did you get it? |
| 18:12.19 | elmo40 | my brain >_< |
| 18:12.24 | kc | ohhh |
| 18:12.34 | kc | never bothered to look there before ;) |
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| 18:13.31 | elmo40 | mainly empty, but works from time to time |
| 18:13.48 | elmo40 | kc: what do you want? why pm me? |
| 18:14.32 | elmo40 | kc: did it rain much there last night? |
| 18:14.54 | elmo40 | Listening to: '112 Nine Inch Nails - Reptile (The Downward Spiral)' |
| 18:14.58 | kc | elmo40, where? |
| 18:15.05 | elmo40 | toronto |
| 18:15.09 | kc | elmo40, not really |
| 18:15.14 | kc | elmo40, tomorrow maybe |
| 18:15.36 | elmo40 | listen, i may be sarcastic at times and a little bit cruel... take what i say with a grain of salt, ok? ;) |
| 18:15.52 | kc | ok |
| 18:15.55 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis can atest to this :) |
| 18:16.20 | kc | elmo40, now that I know where you live, worst case I go over and kick your ass :) |
| 18:16.29 | elmo40 | find me |
| 18:16.36 | kc | not hard with your rogers account |
| 18:16.51 | elmo40 | then do it! |
| 18:17.13 | kc | elmo40, I don't really want to know that badly |
| 18:17.25 | MEETmou | im leavin.. byebye |
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| 18:22.04 | elmo40 | kc: what is it you would like to know? you asked if i was in IT or just hangin' around. |
| 18:22.37 | Thanatermesis | fixed cube for elive-compiz |
| 18:23.53 | kc | elmo40, I just wanted to know if this was your field. I am curious what kind of projects people work on here in the IT field. |
| 18:24.04 | kc | elmo40, care to share? |
| 18:26.22 | elmo40 | i do various things. i am usually a problem finder ;) |
| 18:28.05 | kc | elmo40, such as a sysadmin? |
| 18:29.35 | kc | elmo40, when you say you are a problem finder, what kind of system do you find problems on.. or is it in code that you find problems? |
| 18:31.22 | elmo40 | is not a code reader... |
| 18:31.50 | elmo40 | dont worry kc, i will stop you if i feel necessary |
| 18:32.37 | kc | elmo40, I am a sysadmin for a medium sized company. |
| 18:33.00 | elmo40 | and you are online chatting? there are company policies against things like that. |
| 18:33.34 | elmo40 | at least in my workplace. |
| 18:33.35 | kc | elmo40, I am flexible in these matters and what I learn outside my work I get to apply to my work. |
| 18:34.25 | kc | elmo40, This company is not anal and I am in the position that I do not have anyone standing directly over my shoulder. |
| 18:34.35 | elmo40 | Listening to: '2 Linkin Park - Points of Authority (Live) (Hybrid Theory [Bonus CD])' |
| 18:35.23 | Thanatermesis | kc, sounds like a good job :) |
| 18:35.39 | kc | it is |
| 18:36.51 | kc | So anyone cares to share what they are working on except elive (IT related ;) |
| 18:37.39 | kc | I know IT guys are usually much more protective of their privacy then anyone else |
| 18:39.07 | Thanatermesis | only works at Elive |
| 18:39.47 | elmo40 | hears crickets chirping |
| 18:40.06 | Thanatermesis | apt ping everybody |
| 18:40.07 | apt | pong everybody |
| 18:40.13 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 18:40.21 | Thanatermesis | assasukasse, what do you work ? |
| 18:41.08 | elmo40 | lol apt |
| 18:41.16 | DammitJim | ha |
| 18:41.19 | elmo40 | work? who works? i am here 24.7 ;) |
| 18:41.36 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 18:41.51 | elmo40 | kc: ever been to http://linuxcaffe.ca ? |
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| 18:43.04 | elmo40 | South of the Christie Station. |
| 18:45.10 | kc | i c |
| 18:45.19 | elmo40 | kc: well? ever been there? |
| 18:45.34 | kc | Heard of it before, but no. |
| 18:46.33 | elmo40 | should take a visit. |
| 18:46.35 | elmo40 | nice plae |
| 18:46.40 | elmo40 | Dave is a cool guy |
| 18:47.04 | elmo40 | tell him Leo sent ya, then ask for a cup of hot chocolate... he mixes his own. v. 2.5 by now :P |
| 18:48.18 | kc | thank you |
| 18:48.37 | elmo40 | Listening to: '' |
| 18:48.40 | elmo40 | damn. |
| 18:48.43 | kc | :) |
| 18:52.04 | elmo40 | dont know why it isnt listing |
| 18:52.27 | elmo40 | supposed to be Tool/Lateralus/12-Triad |
| 18:52.38 | elmo40 | ahh, the id3 tags are missing... |
| 19:00.23 | elmo40 | Listening to: '5 Linkin Park - Crawling (Hybrid Theory)' |
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| 20:16.36 | Thanalaptop | watchwolf_, ping |
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| 20:16.57 | Elive_user92_fr | hello |
| 20:17.28 | Elive_user92_fr | Can you help me? |
| 20:19.19 | Elive_user92_fr | i want to install elive 1.9.28 |
| 20:19.36 | Elive_user92_fr | but at the begginning of installation it required to download a file |
| 20:19.53 | Elive_user92_fr | i don't have internet connexion |
| 20:20.19 | Elive_user92_fr | how to install elive 1.9.28 whitout internet? |
| 20:21.55 | Thanalaptop | you have internet now |
| 20:21.58 | Thanalaptop | download it now |
| 20:22.47 | Elive_user92_fr | in a virtual machine on windows |
| 20:23.17 | Elive_user92_fr | i download the file |
| 20:24.19 | Elive_user92_fr | where should i put the file? |
| 20:24.27 | Thanalaptop | mmh |
| 20:24.32 | Thanalaptop | maybe you need to update hte installer first |
| 20:24.38 | Thanalaptop | it is more easy to put the file after to update it |
| 20:24.48 | Thanalaptop | apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller-4g |
| 20:25.07 | keyra | Thanalaptop: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 20:27.54 | Elive_user92_fr | i will try this |
| 20:30.21 | Elive_user92_fr | is it possible to install elive from another system (linux or windows)? |
| 20:32.17 | Thanalaptop | what you mean exactly ? |
| 20:32.46 | Elive_user92_fr | launch the installer from windows |
| 20:33.08 | Thanalaptop | mmmh |
| 20:33.13 | Thanalaptop | that's totally impossible |
| 20:33.25 | Thanalaptop | but, what you want to do exactly ? what is your problem/need ? |
| 20:34.32 | Elive_user92_fr | elive doesn't know my network card |
| 20:34.54 | Elive_user92_fr | i think after install elive i will be able to configure it |
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| 20:44.42 | Thanalaptop | Elive_user92_fr, the thing is simple: |
| 20:44.50 | Thanalaptop | the installer give you a code and a link where to download it |
| 20:45.07 | Thanalaptop | so download it from your actual machine, copy it to a usb, and then put it to your elive installing system |
| 20:45.21 | keyra | Thanalaptop: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 20:45.28 | Thanalaptop | copy it to the dir /root/Downloads/firefox if you dont know how to do it from the installer (supposed that this is the old installer) |
| 20:46.33 | Elive_user92_fr | ok thanks |
| 20:46.51 | Elive_user92_fr | i try |
| 20:46.55 | Elive_user92_fr | good bye |
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| 21:01.35 | AlexAnteMachina | Holy shit. |
| 21:01.44 | AlexAnteMachina | Germans are a pain. |
| 21:02.18 | AlexAnteMachina | I've just asked a question in #debian.de and got a unusable but rude answer. |
| 21:03.16 | AlexAnteMachina | sometimes I wish linus thorvald himselfe would see such things. |
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| 21:12.50 | electroweak | hi guys |
| 21:14.16 | AlexAnteMachina | hi electroweak |
| 21:14.45 | electroweak | what's up |
| 21:15.45 | AlexAnteMachina | electroweak, I'd like to use RFID for starting applications. |
| 21:16.21 | AlexAnteMachina | but i dont know wether/what device works with debian. |
| 21:18.07 | electroweak | well I don't know anything about RFID but I think there is a package about rfid thing |
| 21:18.10 | AlexAnteMachina | I#ve asked google, but got only crappy answers. Then I asked at #debian.de and got only rude answers. |
| 21:18.54 | electroweak | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/electronics/rfdump |
| 21:19.33 | AlexAnteMachina | electroweak, I came across this, too. |
| 21:19.35 | electroweak | I don't know what is that for but probably you should already have found it |
| 21:19.47 | AlexAnteMachina | i did. |
| 21:19.51 | electroweak | I thought so :) |
| 21:20.08 | electroweak | what is that rfid thing for? |
| 21:20.09 | AlexAnteMachina | but i dont know what hardware will be accepted. |
| 21:20.27 | AlexAnteMachina | well, RFID can be used for lots of things. |
| 21:20.59 | AlexAnteMachina | I want to use it for starting applications. Just as a alternative Human-Machine-Interface. |
| 21:25.24 | AlexAnteMachina | electroweak, ping? |
| 21:25.45 | electroweak | I trying to find some info about it |
| 21:25.52 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 21:25.55 | AlexAnteMachina | thank you! |
| 21:26.36 | electroweak | right now all I could find rfid is widely in use at supermarkets instead of barcode readers |
| 21:26.48 | electroweak | am I going to wring direction :)) |
| 21:27.15 | electroweak | *wrong |
| 21:27.48 | AlexAnteMachina | well, its hard to dig useful information out of the google-information-composte-heap |
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| 23:35.36 | Wizard | yawns |